WTF is up with Help Wanted 2's Endings?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 พ.ค. 2024
- Today we're going to take a look at Help Wanted 2. Specifically, the endings. There's a lot of stuff to untangle here, so... Let's take a shot at it!
Music-
Sloppy Clav - Godmode
Landing - Godmode
Medieval Astrology - Underbelly & Ty Mayer
Henry's Theme - Dayshift at Freddy's
0:00 Tis Confusion!
1:18 What is Help Wanted 2's Story?
2:25 The Hand from Heck (Normal Ending)
4:08 Becoming an Animatronic
4:43 Glitchtrap, the Staff Bots, and Cassie
5:52 How to get the Secret Ending
7:07 Vanny's Last Stand
7:39 How Vanessa Snuffed Out Glitchtrap
8:42 The Return of Vanny as a Villain
9:42 Vanessa's Betrayal of the Technician
10:24 Are we the Obsessed PQ Technician?
11:39 Moon is Vanny's Puppet
13:55 Blasting off at the Speed of Light
14:09 What ACTUALLY Happened? Well...
15:17 Why is this so Confusing? WELL...
16:13 What Help Wanted 2 is Missing
17:48 The Missing Children Never Moved On (They're Still Here) - เกม
![[UNCUT] ฝันรักห้วงนิทรา | EP.3 (1/4)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/zVXAFD1OLZg/mqdefault.jpg)
Apparently that is Glitchtrap's hand in the recharge station, it's just almost impossible to see with the lighting. So, ignore what I said about it being human, and pretend I made a dry comment about how I could care less and he's old, soggy newspaper. XD
Tbh when I first saw the hand reach out of the Recharge Station, I thought it was Vanny’s, for some odd reason, because the lighting made the hand look like a bright white lol
i wonder how it being Glitchtrap/Malhare's hand relates to the "Burntrap" plothole that Save Vanny leaves completely wide open due to the very obvious parallels between Burntrap leaving his vape locker and Glitchtrap peeking his hand out of the pod. At the very least confirms Glitchtrap/Malhare (Mimic1??) is infact what is inside Burntrap's mind and not Old WillyBilly Himself?
@@Lincoln_XD The white woman flashbang frfr.
(this is a joke and I am both white and Korean)
@@shybandit521 sorry for the notif if you get it, but I love that you called it a vape locker.
It's alright NotRealName I got that confused as well when I first seen the cutscene too.
Personally, I interpreted the vanny ending as it being Vanessa getting revenge.
The security masks resembling Vanny in Ruin made me think that Vanessa is reclaiming Vanny. And the ending is showing her finally ridding herself of afton, and using the Vanny personality for good.
Vanny vigilante basically?
This is also kinda confirmed by the second story from candy cadet in this game
Meaning Gregory isn't safe to be around her.
@@Chaotic_Overlord I love your pfp!!!
My problem with the ending and the game as a whole in terms of lore is that its not filling in gaps to understand the whole story it is us trying to figure out what’s even happening anymore
Yeah, the original Help Wanted was far more forthcoming in its storytelling (and had more plot depth). I don't know why (after the unintended mess that is Security Breach) we are still getting vague crumbs on what the heck is going on. This series.......is needlessly frustrating.
Fnaf's always been this way. We rarely get any solid information on anything and that's just how it goes!
But at last we knew what was going on @@kcinrennat2606
F&%kin' *THANK YOU*
This, *THIS* is my problem with HW2, We don't even really know *who* we ARE. We have a vague, And I do mean *VAGUE* possibility of an idea of *when* in the timeline we are. Outside of that... Nothing.
HW2 not only doesn't help answer any burning questions about the current events in FNAF, (Cassie's situation, What's happening with the Mimic, If Gregory dropped the elevator or if Mimic did, If Roxy's alive?) It doesn't even bother to answer questions about itself.
Who are we? Who the f&%k knows.
When are we? Maybe between Sec-Brch and Ruin, Possibly?
What's even going on in the endings? Good question!
I know FNAF's been vague at the best of times when it came to their stories, But *COME ON!* THIS is just ridiculous.
@kcinrennat2606 That's not true up until fnaf 4 we always had a pretty clear idea of the story. We knew who killed the kids how they died ect. Any important detail was confirmed at at least some point. Fnaf,Scott and Steel Wool just seem to not know how to tell stories anymore and aren't willing to commit to any canon anymore and instead change major details at the drop of a hat.
A part of me feels like this was a game about filling in gaps. They’re still cleaning up the mess of security breach and the gap between Ruin, so they’re trying to fill in more stuff about characters moving forward, hence why this character dies in any ending, they exist to push others forward and not to be used again
Yeah, it feels like Steel Wool is still on damage control for now, but I feel like the overall tidbits given weren't really bad or outlandish, and they hopefully may have a good new chapter cooking up!
Can't they just.....fix Security Breach? Clear out the bugs, fix the pathfinding, restore the cut content, and properly implement the story?
@@Takejiro24 it doesn't matter if they fit it, it'll always be known as "that one buggy game". this was the best option
@@Takejiro24 the damage has already been done
Steel Wool needs to take some time to just write a story. It does not matter what story, just any story. Then they need to develop the games around that story, instead of making a cool fun environment and just shoving whatever vague half-finished plot threads they have into it
Cassie looks adorable. Love her polished design. I am still overly suspicious about all the nightmarionne imagery all over this game. The tentacles on the rocket art specifically on the floor in front of the stage.
Off-topic: I am personally glad we have a detailed look of the activities people can do at the pizzaplex. Even if we technically are just a technician getting everything ready, meaning we basically are testing things, training, and so on.
I can so see why kids would keep coming back and why parents would not pick up on the clues of danger when they are so clear in front of them.
I also love her noeq model! Though I wish her hair got an update to reflect her better haha.
Also I would totally risk going to the pizzaplex, it just looks too fun to resist.
Imagine if nightmarionne now controls Vanny, which could be the reason for the plushie being there
In other words, I think that you are meaning that the owners of the Pizzaplex *needed* to make their rebranding bigger than ever in order to survive.
Of course, any business should strive for growth and a revitalization of the brand in order to keep securing profits over a long time of generations. However, Fazbear got dealt a blow to its reputation with the insanity of the owner and his crimes. Kids found the restaurant(s?) creepy and gross, and adults were terrified and furious at the corporation as a whole.
They needed to keep it up with "kids [...] coming back and "parents [...] pick[ing] up on the clues of danger."
I'm assuming that they needed to do something so massive, so over-the-top, so entertaining that the brand gets over its next-generation hurdle based on the rumors and news.
I don't think the problem is Fnaf not moving on from old plotlines, I think it's that whenever they introduce a character they do nothing with them before setting them on fire (or tossing them in the bin of "eh maybe something for later") and not a single game has a proper ending.
I disagree that no game has a proper ending. I'd say there are actually too many proper endings. FNAF 3 was a proper ending, FNAF 4 was a proper ending, and Pizza Sim was a proper ending. Even the Burntrap ending of Security Breach was a proper ending. The problem is that they just want to keep making money so they keep making more games, even when the story could and should have ended already several times over.
The same can be said about FNAF SL and FNAF FFPS. It's so frustrating.
@@samlewis6487 My point about the endings is that they save all the plot development for the last minute or rely on theorizing and theories should be used to tease the next game not understand the ending of the current one.
But my main point is that its not bad they brought up the Missing Kids again. Because their story got replaced with Charlie's story then Henry's and then that just became an ongoing cycle. Even the movie ignores them in favor of new characters.
Pizzeria simulator had a satisfying ending to it
No, that is glitchtraps hand, it looks wrong because of the lighting, somebody hacking looked into the pod and saw stitching on the hand
Glitchtraps hand is also the one that gives you the plushes, the evidence is the stitching, it being the same model, and the fact that you get a purple, glitching coin when you get all 6
That makes the Princess Quest ending even funnier because he is very clearly trying to be let out so he can join with Vanny. He even waves to her.
And then she just fucking kills him, which he didnt want because he actively tries to fight it.
I feel like there is so much we havent figured out gor Help Wanted 2, but it feels easier to understand than security breach
Its a thing. SB just had "stuff" that I don't think the devs had a clue on. Everything in HW2 feels like its done with purpose and a story in mind
That's because Security Breach is an unfinished mess that seemingly got cut to ribbons during development.
Help Wanted 2 is a seemingly fully finished game even if the story is somewhat lacking (at least compared to its predecessor).
Help Wanted 2 doesn’t feel as content stuffed as the first game, but dang that Fizzy Faz game has me in a chock-hold.
@sweethistortea I haven't played it yet but I know that minigame is gonna be a nightmare
I think it’s because the spaces are limited. SB as ambitious as it was too spacious to make lore practically anywhere.
I feel like this has been a problem with a lot of the more recent FNAF games.
They always do numerous "Clue-style" endings and are not straightforward with how the games end. It's only until the NEXT release that we find out what ending is truly canon in the series.
And don't get me wrong, previous FNAF games have done this like 3, 4, Sister Location, and Pizzeria Simulator. But the other endings in those games didn't feel like overkill and blew it out of proportion. The Steel Wool games, however, are constantly throwing so many different endings that make no sense whatsoever
But in 3, 4, Sister Location, and Pizza Sim, there was a clear ending with more effort put into it. It was obvious what the canon ending was. This was true for Help Wanted too, but that's just because it was an easter egg in the DLC. The main game literally didn't matter. Security Breach also had an obvious ending with more effort, but that was retconed in Ruin to not be the canon one. So the problem js less that there isn't a clear canon ending and more that Steel Wool can't make up their minds and are just doing whatever to try (and fail) to please the fans.
@samlewis6487 yeah exactly, that's what I meant.
Those 4 games did have clearly established endings, and it wasn't left for interpretation of what ending was real or not.
FNAF 3 - You freed the spirits of the kids, Fazbear's Fright burnt down, and Springtrap survived the fire
FNAF 4 - The crying child died from Fredbear's bite
Sister Location - Michael gets scooped, and the Funtime Animatronics wear his skin as a suit, and Michael miraculously lives.
Pizza Simulator - The Scrap Animatronics died in the pizzeria, and the souls were put to rest.
Like I said, they did have secret endings as well, but not only did they clearly establish what ending was canon from the get-go, but they also weren't obnoxious and over-the-top with them, unlike the Steel Wool games.
@@samlewis6487 It's not the fans' fault if they're not good at writing. Why are we always the ones to blame when things go wrong?
@@redpanda6497 It's called Scapegoating....Wax.
@@redpanda6497 Because the majority of FNAF fans these days have no standards and care more aobut playing theorist than having a coherent story. The fanbases for games like Hello Neighboor and Bendy rightfully called out their franchise's devs for retconning and mangling the stories just for the sake of making theory bait while FNAF fans instead just swallow what they're given and start headcanoning to justify the devs' incompetence. Just look at the comments section of the cut content video for HW2 and you'll see people talking about how they're glad everything that would've made the story make sense was cut out because "mUh ThEoRies".
HW2 didn’t add to the story, it’s trying to add pieces to a pre-existing story.
I’m assuming they can use this later in Ruin 2 ( or whatever it will be called) to add to the mystery. Cassy finds out what happened to her dad, and realises this rabbit hole , so to speak, goes deep
That's kinda what all the Steel Wool games are, just adding pieces to an existing story. Except the problem is that the existing story they're adding to is literally just bits and pieces from Help Wanted (I know they made HW but Scott Cawthon also worked on it) that they have no context for and can't make their mind up on.
Honestly, In my circles, we're debating if we play as Cassie's Dad, Vanessa or Gregory. Cause there's a lot of cases for both. Also, I was studying that animation of Glitchtrap VERY carefully cause I was wondering what it all meant. Glitchtrap wasn't waving AT US. He was facing away from us. His back is to us. He doesn't even acknowledge us. He raises his hand to get a better look at Vanny, and before Vanny crushes him, he tries to hold up his hands to shield himself. So I think it was pretty deliberate telegraphing that Vanny got her revenge. I don't know if this is saying she'll be worse, or that she freed herself. Since Vanny regards the player after she does so, and waves her hand like "see you soon" It's all very weird. (but I am happy that moon and Vanny have explicit confirmation that they're working together differently then the other animatronics.)
Now I'm starting to wonder if Vanny is an update of Elizabeth, Charlotte, or another one of the Children working against William. It could explain some of her appearances here now.
We aren’t any character we seen before it’s confirmed a new person.
@@sutarikun What stood out to me was the repeated line of "what makes you so special?" from Circus Baby and Moon. two characters who we know to have connections to Elizabeth and Vanny specifically. Idk. It's a thought.
And even if it was an old person Roxy wouldn’t be nice to Gregory in the salon
@@baileybhamjee8080 Also, if we were Gregory, he says nothing about Freddy being here even though Freddy left with the boy. Or just have any interaction that they know each other.
If we take into consideration Candy Cadet’s story about the girl and the witch, I think they’re the same person.
The young girl is Vanessa and the evil witch is Vanny.
Vanessa escapes from Vanny (metaphorically of course) but she’s scared by the existence and that trauma pushes her to go back and get revenge on the thing that did that to her (glitchtrap) but in her quest for revenge she kills glitchtrap but falls back into the clutches of the witch (Vanny). Kinda like a split personality.
Maybe now it’s like a Jekyll and Hyde situation where rather than “Vanny” being Vanessa controlled by Glitchtrap, “Vanny” is now the manifestation of Vanessa’s trauma of being controlled.
I meant to say “experience” not existence.
@@jk844100you can edit the comment by tapping on it fyi
"A fair trade"
Well yeah.
Sun represents Vanessa, Moon represents Vanny. In ruin they are merged with a split personality.
I think like 40% chance we play as Bonnie Bully because the game deliberately calls out that the Bonnie Mask found in the secret Princess Quest treasure chest "Seems Familiar" in big bold floating text, and also like 75% chance we play as Cassies dad due to the obvious fact we literally Work At The Pizzaplex and they're the only established non-Vanny worker in the location, which leaves us with a 30% chance that Cassies Dad and Bonnie Bully are the exact same person
Cassie's dad be old then. XD But yeah, same.
I mean technically the Bonnie bully could be Cassie's grandfather. Like, he kept the mask around after the accident and his son (aka Cassie's dad) saw it in an attic one time and that's why it's familiar
@@RaiRaiRaven also True but that would also be idk kinda lame tbh I think it's funnier the idea that Bonnie Bully is some old ass 60 year old man they won't let retire because Fazbear Entertainment sucks and is an awful company
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 He also might be faceless if he's Jeremy Fitzgerald
That's not actually how percentages work, but sure. It would actually be between a 15 and 30% chance.
i like the idea of Henry being a failure. it dilutes his final speech but at the same time its an interesting idea.
It's also consistent with FNaF's biggest theme, which is that bringing things together always leads to tragedy.
This franchise will never end. It'll get a kids cartoon soon.
@@Sigma_Male_Anti_FemaleI remember hearing a animated series is being made based on the sb series
I hate it. It means that literally every game prior to Help Wanted might as well not have happened.
@@samlewis6487 The game is literally for kids now.
If they wind up going the direction of Vanessa becoming the new main villain with Gregory as her lackey I think it would be interesting if Gregory's motivation is gratitude for her saving him from a life on the streets
I really hope they don't take that direction. It just wouldn't make sense. Gregory was perfectly good and nice in SB, being terrified of Vannessa even without the Vanny costume. In the canon ending of Security Breach, Vanessa is freed from Glitchtraps control. Having that happen and then just going "yeah but she's still going to be evil anyway" would be stupid and wildly unsatisfying.
@@samlewis6487 honestly I agree with that and I think that is really the only way they can make turning Gregory evil actually work I really hope they don't go that directions either I just think it's the only way I could feasibly work and would be interesting this orphan who has been alone for most of his life seemingly was taken in by an unexpected parent and wound up becoming incredibly loyal to her as a result
@@samlewis6487 "Gregory was perfectly good and nice in SB" Idk, did you see the glee with which he murked the animatronics? There's a reason Cassidy is horrified when she sees what's left of them in Ruin, it's a hint we're meant to recognize that what he did was messed up.
@@bubblegum1366that makes Gregory such based character though 🗿🍷
@@bubblegum1366to be fair they were terrorizing him since he got there
7:29 quick note ! the animation of glitchtrap isnt him waving at the player but rather cowarding in fear of vanny
It is, if you go up close, you can see glitchtrap is facing vanny and is indeed cowarding in fear.
And my boy tried to shield himself from the hit
I'm SO glad you talked about my biggest problem with this series, which is that NOTHING is EVER just flat-out confirmed 😑 . Like, how is it we still don't even know who Gregory was, a character who is obviously very important?? If he's a robot or a brainwashed child or whatever, we should have learned that at least by the end of Ruin! And that's just one example 🙄 ... Oh well. I do still very much enjoy watching videos theorizing like this (and other videos on FNAF, like the character analysis videos you always do a fantastic job on, NotRealName 🥰), but it would be nice to just get confirmation of something. Anything at this point.
Thank you so much! 8D And I definitely agree.
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Senpai noticed me 😂
His situation is explained in the story GGY. In case you are wondering, no, I don't like that the books are mandatory too.
@owenlee5587 what the hell did those books say again? He's some sort of experiment or robot or prototype or something? It's been so long I can't remember.
@@DancingCrickets04 Gregory is not a robot. He seems to have been like any other kid, but was infected with Glitchtrap, and he's patient 46. It seems that just before SB, he is freed and gets amnesia, then the game happens.
Moon is definetly the most interesting thing in this entire installment. It's by far the most recurring antagonistic thing in it, and the addition of the cutscene was already a lot, but then they go and give us Jack-O-Moon.
The halloween animatronics are only tied to two things. Fnaf 4 and the whole Fallfest thing. To now have a new character introduced to an old skin set is wild, and it can only mean to tell us that Moon is a lot older than just the Pizzaplex. We are talking early 80s, maybe 70s, because now we have a poster that has that date.
Knowing that SteelWool wanted to do a prequel, they teased a "Carnival" that we aren't sure is HW2, we get a merry-go-round and an animatronic named Carnie burning...
I think this game is seriously implying that there is a whole fire incident in 70s now. Before we can even really put together what happened in the 80's, I think we are going to get new lore drop about the 70s in whatever comes next.
And then, after Moon is all setup to be a bigger kind of minor villain... it's kind of for naught... because Moon gets decommissioned in Ruin and we got to see that before HW2 💀
One thing I want to point out is that Glitchtrap isn't a "mascot" who pops up "for no reason", the Glitchtrap screens appear during minigames where you're on a time limit, and he blocks your attempt to finish the goal in time. He's still getting in your way.
I also really resonate with your talk about how "there's so many different dead ends and loose ends and no real confirmations on how anything works that it's difficult to tell when we're following a trail and when there isn't anything to follow". It's a big part of why I think FNAF theorizing, while pretty fun, is a largely futile task if you're trying to take it "seriously". I've said this before and I'll say it again; the MO for FNAF games is that they vaguely answer one question with a wishy-washy answer but then they'll ask two more, because any time they finally close a thread, you risk losing the fans that were mostly just following the franchise for that thread. More questions means more engagement means more money, more answers means less engagement means less money. The answer is clear; to keep FNAF going, they simply will not actually answer any of the questions they set out, which in my eyes makes theorizing from the perspective of trying to "solve the mystery for good" absolutely pointless.
I don't think the Blob being the souls combined into one body is a stretch, I'd say it's pretty likely. You can't force a soul to move on, if they want to stay they will find a way to stay.
That actually makes me excited about the future of this story, because last time we saw the Blob it literally dug it's way out to the Pizzaplex and ran of to who knows where. We might finally get a change of location.
The problem is this: Will they use the blob? Who knows! Because we have literally 5 different potential villains that they could choose to use and there's zero clarity as to which they're going to care about. They could make Vanessa evil, they could make Gregory evil, they could bring back Burntrap since his ending isn't canon, they could bring back the Mimic since it only died in 1/3 endings (not that death has ever mattered), or the could bring back the blob, or they could do literally any combination thereof. They could also turn Cassie into a villain, assuming she's still alive. Heck, they could even bring in the Puppet or some totally new and unrelated. Cassidy is still theoretically around, along with a bunch of children's souls from kids that are maybe around somewhere, since the souls that got turned into the Funtimes and then into the Blob were only pieces. The killer of Glamrock Bonnie is still technically unconfirmed, maybe that's a whole new character who's going to be a villain. There's literally no way to tell because the story has pulled itself in so many different directions and pulled insane u-turns so many times that the only way to know what'll happen is to see it happen.
As a DCA lover the idea of Moon being the first infected is heartbreaking, imagine slowly losing control of yourself, your body and mind moving against your will, locking yourself away until youve been wholly consumed by the thing infecting you. And from Sun's POV, the person who you literally share a body with, changing in such a horrifying way, becoming a shell of the person they used to be, until they become the monster they used to promise the kids they would protect them from. You're terrified of them, you hate them for what they've done, but you still love them and want them back, and refuse to leave them behind.
What does DCA stand for?
@@syweb2 daycare attendant its shorthand to refer to sun and moon
Sorry about my pitchy mic. I think maybe an update messed with my volume settings? O.o
Its fine, things like that happen
It’s fine! The videos are great anyway.
it's ok.
I didn't notice
Hey, you're doing great, thanks for the fun videos! (Yes it's me the cookbook guy)
Definitely coming back to this once I’ve seen Mark’s play through of it, i’m looking forward to this next addition to the franchise. One thing’s for sure, I hope they gave the bidybabs even a *morsel* of attention lol
The Bidybabs are featured in two levels, if I remember correctly
boy do i have good news for you
Hot take:
This is the best lore we've had in years!
I even think this is one of the best games in the whole franchise. And I adore it!
And why is that? Please don't tell it's just because you can perform arts and crafts with Sun.
Yes!!! Actually confirmation of the MCI that opens up a HUGE number of new theories, two acid trippy endings, plenty of tiny secrets? Great lore game, better than FNaF 3, even I'd say.
@@NoSystemFoundhold on, sorry but what do you mean by confirms the mci? I'm a bit confused, that was the original plot point of this franchise ;-;
@@superlemonslicer1224think they’re talking about 17:55 (til the end of the video)
Agree! And I'm an og fan.
Alternate theory: The guy who is repeatedly doing minigames involving the animatronics in an area that is increasingly on fire is actually William out on loan to Vanessa. It would fit the themes, give a solid reason for the encroaching callbacks, and actually have a satisfying conclusion with the manipulator being tricked into helping defeat his other self.
Of course, since this involves having a plan and an actual resolution, there is a 0% chance of it being the intention.
3:21, might need to go through the spirit journey again. Going out of bounds and looking at the hands in more detail, it is glitchtrap hands giving you the plushies and opening the recharge station.
Oh... Well, then it's just Glitchtrap again. No greater detail, it's just this same guy who doesn't ever do anything. XD
When I saw the first ending I just thought that some remnant of Glichtrap was in the robots and passed to a main robot so that he could give the mask to someone and create another victim like Vanny.
I had the same thought process, and I also think glitchtrap was hiding in the toys (similar to the tapes) cuz he appears when they fuse together.
@@user-dk3lg9np6pI thought the same thing but with the robots themselves, to infect someone Glichtrap needs to be whole and that's why the robots attack the player to put the parts together into one singular bot and pass Glichtrap to anyone that come across.
@@cacaumassipanoficial6203 If this theory is true, this would mean that helpy was corrupted by glitchtrap and not the mimic. Which would also mean that we are not done with glitchtrap yet.
@@user-dk3lg9np6p Glichtrap is associated with purple and Helpy's eyes turn yellow when he is being possessed. At this point I don't know anymore since Mimic could have been Glichtrap but maybe he has become a separate entity by now, Glichtrap simply stayed in the mask to infect Cassie while Mimic was tricking her.
I think it's impressive how Help Wanted 2 has probably the most cryptic endings in the series, considering how cryptic this franchise as a whole tends to be.
I hope Cassie is going to be the new Vanny like how you once suggested in another video, especially since the other ending shows her getting the mask from the staff bot in Ruin.
The mask bot bit reminds me of the reveal about the gnomes at the end of the Little Nightmares 1 DLC.
THAT IS WHAT I THOUGHT! I didn't bring it up, but I did get some serious Depths vibes.
Yooo I was thinking that too! I liked it, because I love little nightmares lol
Tbh, I said the complete opposite of Moon being hacked in one of your vids, but after seeing HW2 and looking back on Moon in SB, I've changed my mind. The fact that Moon is the only animatronic in SB (other than the Blob) who has red glowing eyes was already kinda hinting that he must have been related to Vanny somehow. I'm probably not the only one who noticed this, but Moon acts a little like Vanny in terms of behaviour, such as acrobatics and creepy little dances. If you hack the game, you can see Vanny dancing before she makes her way downstairs, and she has a cut animation where she's doing cartwheels. One final thing; Moon and Vanny both wave at you, and they're the only ones who do that besides Freddy. Moon couldn't be glitched out like the others since he seems to be the most self-aware of his actions, and by getting a good look at him during the "Escape at 6am" quest, he's still clean and not dirty and cracked like the other bots.
He *knows* he's chasing a child, he *knows* he's helping a (at the time) possessed killer.
I don't think Moon was always evil, if what Cassie said when looking at the Moon plush is any indication.
@@prufan i never said he was always like that
@@amyrodgers4252 The last line seemed to be saying that, my mistake if not.
@@prufan I didn't mean Moon was always like that when I said that. I was only referring to the events in the main SB game.
I think we play as Cassy’s dad. The secret Bonnie mask is ‘familiar’ and is extremely old looking. One of the bullies in FNAF 4 has a Bonnie mask (same one?) and wears similar colours to Cassy. We also know that Cassy’s dad’s favourite character was Bonnie. I don’t get why we help Vanny though.
At least you can use him to bait lefty to come and throw a hammer at him 😏
So, does that mean that Cassie's dad possessed a maskbot???? 💀
At this point in the timeline Bonnie Bully would be really old. Just because Cassie's dad likes Bonnie doesn't mean he is Bonnie Bully, multiple people can like Bonnie
@@GuGoRpsmost likely and while he was in the game possibly vanny or the mimic learned that Cassie is often home alone and has no friends besides Gregory so she would have been targeted to free the mimic
On that part about the HW2 Protagonist working with Vanessa/Vanny, there's unused dialogue (or monologue in this case, I guess) speculated to belong to Vanny in the files that seem to point to her giving instructions to the player.
I think it was Mystic Hippo's unused dialogue? Unless they found more while I slept which is possible.
EDIT: They did find it while I slept. There is are a good few cut Vanessa voicelines.
@@Hex.A.Decimal You might be right. I can't find the source that told me the voicelines were Vanny's and the other I found is uncertain if they belong to her.
As such, I'll change my comment. Much appreciated 👍
@@Takejiro24 No, *you* were right. There is also a good bit of Vanny/Vanessa dialogue cut.
Again. SW really loves to shaft this character.
I feel like us seeing through Map Bot's eyes is telling us what happened to the Pizzaplex staff as a whole. Dead, uploaded into the system and possessing the staffbots.
Yes, I’ve been wondering this, like did this happen to other employees and they just integrated more fully into the robots or have been there for longer?
The "human" hand IS Glitchtrap's hand, the softblur makes it really hard to tell but the stitches are there.
I agree with the Tangle/MCI/Gundum toy. "You remain and you are one" is that the Princess is ALL of them, spearheaded by Cassidy and/or Vanessa.
I think the claw machine is symbolic of mimic's personality database - everything it has access to. Memories of all the dead as opposed to the raw agony that is the Tangle.
I do agree this means that Mimic has shifted it's main from Glitchtrap to Vanni. Not Vanny/Vanessa. Just the persona. Which I think Vanessa has finally defeated amd banished from her mind, but will now be taken up by Cassie.
I also think we play as Cassie's dad (who I think may be Jeremy the 3rd by the Bonnie imagery) and we will finally get a foil of the sins of the father formula.
The MCI dolls are vodoo dolls. Something is trying to recreate the past by the agony leftover. "Caught in a loop"
Putting things back together seems to be a bad thing at this point.
It seems we get extra lore by doing so, but 'bad endings'... We instead get 'good endings' by leaving the demon to his demons.
We are being actively rewarded by continuing the bad things dominoes, our own curiousity being hijacked to further the plot.
I'm not saying the narrative is perfect by any means, but it seems they finally figured out how to make the story and gameplay diegetic which is a huge step in the right direction.
Can't talk about the fire, I don't want to spoil anything but we are going *way* back.
I feel like having the Mimic, who is a copy of Afton, controlling Vanny instead of Glitchtrap, who is a copy of Afton, would be the biggest one step forward, two steps back the story could make. XD
@@notrealnamenotatall2476 Glitchtrap is Mimic pretending to be Afton.
I'm trying to say Mimic isn't Afton or Vanny, but just anyone it chooses to emulate at any given time. And right now it has chosen Vanny.
In all honesty we may not have met the mastermind. Mimic seems like a tool gone rogue.
(And I don't think it's William. But maybe an Afton.)
In my opinion, the story of Help Wanted 2 should've been about the rise of Vanny. Show Vanessa's time at the Pizzaplex before gaining her security role. Have the minigames be her bouncing from position to position. Let there be collectables that show conversations between Vanessa and Glitchtrap as she gets him into the mainframe and finds Burntrap, and most importantly, establish the Mimic to be something completely separate from Afton. I know a lot of people love the idea of the Mimic being Afton, but I genuinely believe that separating the two is far better since it gives the Mimic the chance to be its own thing instead of being a lazy apology for bringing back Afton again. Yeah, we would have to deal with Afton being back again, but considering there are very strong hints that the Princess Quest ending being canon, that means Glitchtrap dies by the end of Security Breach. What's more, with Vanessa free, Burntrap lays dormant in the ruined Pizzeria; so he's out of the picture too. But instead of this, we got to play as a character we don't know becoming a character we don't care about with little no actual story substance to be found unless you take a microscope to everything.
Mimic isn't afton but he is glitchrap/burntrap
@@ZavoyHarwood Wrong. Nobody really knows if Glitchtrap/Burntrap is really the Mimic. All the evidence I've seen from people advocating that it is is too flimsy to believe.
Microscopes and telescopes are annoying
You get a real good look at the details but lose sight of the bigger picture
@@davidhong1934 Now that’s a good way of looking at things.
@@tonysonic456 tbf no one knows a lot of things about this series. It could all be wrong for what we know, these are all just theories.
Anyways I disagree, Security Breach makes an attempt to explain Burntrap, and that is proven by the fact that you believe that Vanny was building Burntrap. Also, taking a microscope to everything is how Fnaf has and always will work, we literally found out about dead kids because we looked at microscopic text in a newspaper clipping that rarely shows up.
Also, this game helps us establish a lot of things regarding RUIN and the overall story of the new Fnaf games.
lastly, the main reason why people belive that Glitchrap is connected to The Mimic is because of how the Mimic acts in the book series (which has been used as evidence for widely accepted theories at this point)
Another thing about the Vanny ending..what if it's meant to mean that since Glitchtrap is no more, neither is Vanny? Since he is gone, she goes too, but on HER terms...she just waves goodbye and fades into the mist
I think a big cassie dad evidence piece is the bonnie mask in princess quest and "you look like you have kids"
Also the bonnie mask has mci order confirmation
those hands were glitchtrap hands
nightnarione plush in princess quest too
yeah it seems baby and vanny may be getting actual roles instead of being scrapped instantly
really hope we get to see Vanny get a second chance and see her shine in a next game
I'm really happy Vanny is back! The Mimic was fine for Ruin but I would hate for it to become the main villain. Plus as everyone and their mother have already pointed out, Vanny was tragically wasted in Security Breach and she deserves a second chance.
I really hope they do Vanny well. Idk if they will, I’m kinda cautious about it. Also I find it kinda funny how the mimic was like the whole thing in ruin, had a big design reveal and a ton of mystery, only to be completely absent in this game. I know that glitchtrap is technically mimic probably but still, it’s fascinating that glitchtrap was brought back just to die.
There is something you got wrong which is that the hand that pops out the charging station is glitchtrap because if you zoom in you can see the stitching on the hand
Can't wait to find out that glitchtrap caught on fire when he was crushed by vanny and also survived said event.
every time she says “but I digress” I cheer like a sports guy
Steel Wool Exec: I don't care about sales! Are the puppet hints driving Notrealname crazy? Yes? Good!
Oh yeah, and in Bonnie Bowl we see Monty's head crushing Bonnie's head on the monitor/score screen whatever and looking smug. So that was pretty hard confirmed.
At least we *know* and that's all I can ask.
This video was absolutely amazing, not just amazing but faz-terific good job girl
Hot Take: It wasnt gregory who cut off the elevator, it was vanny/vanessa.
Hw 2 is honestly a really interesting game, and while the story telling could be better I do like how many details we get, even if it's conflicting.
I myself saw this "vanny" ending and thought a couple things~
Firstly that it being Vanny, doesn't necessarily mean it's Vanny, in this and ruin the Vanny mask is an interface to work with the security systems, it could have just been an artful way of saying that the Vanny mask worked.
Secondly I thought the endings implied that we had turned into M.X.E.S, his absence feels intentional and could also work alongside being cassies dad and doesn't have to clash with being the mask bot.
Lastly and what I find the most interesting is the inclusion of moon, I can't tell if it's supposed to be anything more then just a way to include a character who was screwed over or if its hinting at a number of different theories.
If the next game to come has any kindness to the fans, I hope it explains at least the tiniest bit of what was actually going on in this story haha.
I was wondering too if he’s MXES
One thing to keep in mind is that Scott often would use a new game to clarify something from a previous game that people weren't clear on. Now, you can debate if Steel Wool is following that method with their games, but it's something to be aware of. This game does explain a few things, or at least gives clues about what we saw in Ruin, though that raises the question of if this is considering Ruin to be the previous game, or Help Wanted, since this is the sequel to that game.
As for Vanny 'destroying' Afton and getting rid of him, I wouldn't hold my breath. While I would love to see more Vanny in the future, removing Afton entirely I feel would be a mistake. Maybe shift focus from him to a new villain (Vanny or the Mimic) for a while, but he's effectively the core of FNaF. He's effectively the entire reason any of this is happening, and any sort of resolution or closure, no matter how minor, would have to involve him in some major way. Even if it's just focusing on Vanny on her own, only to come to the point where she realizes everything she did was part of Afton's plans, and she has to ultimately confront him a final time.
I don't really think the fact that we cut from being attacked by nightmare staffbots to pov of maskbot means that whoever we are playing as has a direct connection to the bot. What I interpret it as is that it just explains that after player's death the mask was eventually given to Cassie. I think it would probably also fit with us being Cassie's dad especially with the bonnie mask secret. Perhaps we helped Vanny get rid of Glitchtrap's control but we ended up dying and the leftovers of Glitchtrap still linger in the mask. Plus there's the whole deal with the mimic but I have no idea if there's a connection to Glitchtrap there
It's Glitchtrap's hand in the charging station. The light is just really bright so it looks human
If so, then reverting to my "Oh, it's Glitchtrap... anyways" reaction. XD
The endings are strange indeed
indubitably
It's been hard to feel much about the HW2 endings personally, all I think is 'oh Vanny takes over from Glitchtrap? Isn't that just meant to be part of the of Security Breach.' It feels like the SBs story was botched so badly we're now catching up to the same story beats two years later.
I'm just going to live in my head cannon where following Ruin, elevator ending and fixing Chica are cannon, so the Mimic sees Gregory callously throwing Cassie down the elevator, and remembers her kindness towards the animatronics and determination to help a friend, and mimics her. Cassie and Mimic team up to fix the animatronics, and years later lure Gregory back to the Pizzaplex for revenge/to be saved, depending on whether you believe the Mimic truly changed or has just been manipulating Cassie for years. Who really cut the power to the elevator...
I’m kinda sad this won’t come out for Meta Quest until Spring… oh well, it is what it is 😭
or flatscreen
Pouring one out for you guys 🫗
And then theres me with a ps4 😔
@@itstheblandman8734I’m trying to stay sober my whole life but thanks
@@adrianartzz pouring one out for you too 🫗
Love your videos so much 💖
03:54 I'm pretty sure that IS Glitchtrap's hand, its just weird lighting. The plushie hand is definitely Glitchtrap. The finger count matches and its likely a parallel to burntrap's recharge station
Nice video of yours!
Just letting ya know...I don't know about the hand in the charging station but the hands that give out the plushies do have stiches on them which...basically confirms that they are Glitchy boy's
Are you sure? I have a lot of pics and they don't look like there's stitches to me.
@notrealnamenotatall2476 yup, I've seen many gameplay videos and I'm 100% sure I saw a stitch over it's palm....other that or I'm trippin
I think help wanted 2 is by far the most confusing thing about the fnaf lore
How can you say that after SB, fazbear frights and tales of the pizzaplex
Technically untrue if you think about the fact that 99% of what we know about the lore is just fan theories that haven't been directly confirmed but were clearly the basis for later plot events. We are told almost nothing, and that way the people making the games can just use whatever fan theories they like to define the series.
Anyone else find the Bonnie Head event in Bonnie Bowl very similar to a scenario pitched by NotRealName a while ago…?
Anyway, Story’s a mess, sure, but the gameplay is a major step up from HW1.
All the character moments with the Animatronics were so wholesome and funny, and the implementation of new mechanics worked very well.
Good gaem would recommend
You kill me bro I don't want the ending spoiled but I really want to watch your content, will def be checking out after I play through it all
I just finished both endings last night with a couple of friends( I played and they watched) and I got mad at the Mask Bot ending and hoped that the secret one would give me an answer. Though when I got that one, too, I was furious because I know Steel Wool won't give us an answer
I know you don't really do theorizing content, so thank you for making this video, it's a really appreciated!
Darn it :( I was hoping that the games wouldn't go in the "Vanny is controlling Moon" route. I always thought that Moon worked better as an annoying gremlin who dances around and threatens you. Him being treated as an actual, serious villain is pretty irritating to me, especially since it was never actually stated in Security Breach that any animatronics other than Chica, Roxy, and Monty were being controlled. In fact, the warning next to the moon symbol on the back of Sun's head indicates that Moon was already an evil gremlin before the Vanny crap even started. Pardon my salt, but it feels a bit like the creators of the games now are just making stuff up as they go along, making it as vague and nonsensical as possible, and trying to bait TH-camrs into making theories.
(Note: I'm a bit biased, since Moon was one of my favorite characters, and Vanny was one of my most hated 😅)
I don't think Moon was always evil, if what Cassie said when looking at the Moon plush is any indication.
I don’t personally view Moon as being controlled by Vanny/her lackey (he’s one of my favorites too)
I’m thinking that they may just work together? For the time being their goals align?
I for one like to think of Moon as a Cheshire Cat type character and he doesn’t work ‘for’ anybody persay. But, who knows?? Given that nothing’s solidly confirmed yet, at least.
Edit: I should clarify that I think ‘infected’ Moon’s goals align with Vanny’s-
It’s my personal headcanon that she screwed all the pizzaplex animatronics over with the glitchtrap/afton bug, but with Moon it didn’t QUITE work as intended. He’s been knocked off his rocker but not in the same way as the others. So while she infected him- I like to think he has a bit more ‘standing’ than just Vanny’s minion. Idk maybe it’s my bias but I like to think there’s more to it than just that
Moon was always meant to be working with Vanny. That felt explicit to me when Moon captures Freddy and we see him being interrogated by Vanessa as a direct result/immediate consequence. Which then changes Moon's mechanics and makes him different from everyone else.
-Moon is given more specific goals to help him catch Gregory (Goals that coincide with Gregory's Objectives being completed)
-Those goals often involve checking in on Freddy/Freddy's system (Upgrades)
-Moon is/was able to get Gregory from even inside Freddy (can't remember if that was a glitch and if it got patched, but I assumed that it was intended as Moon always knew that Gregory and Freddy were working together) {If patched, I would assume Vanny wouldn't want Moon to further damage Freddy as then he couldn't be used by her}
The other animatronics have literally zero knowledge that Gregory and Freddy are working together, they are not truly cognizant of their actions (based on dialogue), and they immediately give up upon Gregory entering Freddy because they don't have control over themselves and Glitchtrap doesn't have the knowledge they do of his stomach hatch.
Now, this is all from a place where I wasn't sold on Vanessa and Glitchtrap working together, but that was because of the Vanny/Vanessa parallels to Moon/Sun. To me, Princess Quest is the subconscious and true or united version of Vanessa the way Eclipse was the subconscious version of Sun/Moon, and then potentially became the true or united version of the two. Aside from being the subconsciousness, I actually couldn't and still can't tell if the PQ Vanessa is the remains of a split Vanessa, the original version that had been split, or the result of both split selves cooperating; and if Eclipse is either a lobotomy to both Sun and Moon, was always the original version that split for some reason, or the final result of them both cooperating together.
I hate that the ambiguity in how these characters are resolved is intentional.
@@LuckasSilver Agreed, tbh- interpretation and characterization can be a ton of fun, no doubt- but when the waters get overly muddied it can be a touch frustrating sometimes-
Especially when it’s so hard for a community to come to a consensus on what should be crucial components of certain things.
@@lailanityler2380 Yeah. I would have appreciated more time with Vanessa and Vanny, as well as more time with Sun and Moon. If Steel Wool was going to put in some effort to make their situations parallel each other, from the two personalities, to the infection, to the one personality finale, then they should have committed to it and done more. Instead, story and development was scrapped so game could release. (still salty)
TBH I forgot this game came out for a moment
Hey, I absolutely love your theories! Matpat needs to do a gtlive of this one!
I've been watching your vids back to back and I love them so much but I've noticed you say 'I digress' a lot
To be honest, if you listen to what Vanny says in this ending, you can hear "thank...you". "you" is heard after "destroying" glichtrap, but these are my guesses
I just watched rye toasts recap and they proposed that the secret ending was just vanny storing glitchtrap away, and if they're right about that I'm going to lose my mind! I'm so tired of the women in these games getting shafted in service of bringing Afton back AGAIN!!!
(speaking of girl villains though, what do you think about baby's inclusion in this game? She seems very present and getting to see her model in all its glory in the job interview mini game was so cool)
I mean, he exploded in smoke and then it was shown burned into the wall. That doesn't look stored to me. XD
And I think Baby was actually very well-done this time around!
Your comment about how we could've gotten some more info is funny because in the files there are cut vanny voicelines where she gives ALOT of vital info. Originally vanny was supposed to be talking to us throughout the game, and giving us hints and info.
Love your vids
I think the tough part about the secret ending is that we know what happens in the pizza plex next. Vanny wasn't there. Did she F off to go killing kids?
nah she just got into spray painting as evidenced by all the new Vanny graffiti everywhere
She likely hasn’t left but she was watching over Cassie to see if she’ll succeed in freeing the mimic. For example the Roxy walkie-talkie being in a location Cassie is going find it because mxes wasn’t going to leave it out as it was trying to stop Cassie. We also have no idea how Cassie was being contacted because the mimic was locked away
Great job on the video.🎉
Thank you for including me in your video, NotRealName! Also, there's something else going in the 'real' world section of the game I think's worth bringing up.What I'm about to detail is pure speculation and highly possible I'm wrong, but still interesting. I am in the camp that we're playing as Cassie's Dad (due to the bonnie mask reference, the same styled mask in Ruin). The hard mode games are supposedly taking place in the real world (cause by giving Roxy that face plate we see in Ruin), however there are also minigames taking place during Sister Location and Pizzeria Simulator, which should be impossible since all the animatronics from those locations should be gone, unless they still are but we (the protagonist) saw them at one point. (It's also possible we're seeing these things in AR due to the chip implanted in our head, Cassie got one, so a company technician definitely have one too or we could simply be using the mask for these specific levels.)
What I'm proposing is what if these sections are memories, places and characters we've seen at some point or another. Starting at the carousel, another TH-camr went out of bounds and found a barn and windmill next to the carousel and that the fire actually started in the barn. (Matpat also suggested in the past that Moon is WAY older than we think he is, having similar teeth to the Mimic who is also ancient) I theorize Cassie's dad as a kid, repaired the carousel despite the danger, showing his gift for engineering and spiking the interest of Afton who started the fire (implied by Springtrap lingering in the wreckage of the Fazerblast carnie game after it burns. Afton hires Cassie's dad later on at Circus Baby's Ent. and Rental (Perhaps he did encounter Circus Baby, but she deemed it too risky to persuade him like she did with Michael). Later on, an aging Henry approaches him to help set up the fake Pizzeria (let's face it, an 70+ old man couldn't have done all that alone). Bringing us to HW2, as an old man ourselves with unfinished trauma of his own, maybe that's why he stuck with Fazbear Ent. for so long).
Moon and Circus Baby both asked "why are we so special" (the straw man fallacy would be we're the bonnie bully from FNAF4, but I'll let the other theorists deal with that one), maybe the answer is we're not special. We saw so much of this world, but chose not to take any real action of our own until the end, where after we die and possess a staff bot, hand our employee mask off to our daughter, who unknowingly takes it, falls down the rabbit whole and cycle of trauma continues to spin.
If any of this was what they intended, it's a shame it's background noise, maybe the eventual DLC can clear some of it up.
I love your videos, I added you to my FNAF video rounds, I like your editing style. I come for THE LORRRRRE! Lol, and THE MIMIC!😂I can't, i love your vids.❤
Will we be getting a smooching guide to our couple (one) new animatronic?
Once we get a few more. XD
Another great video! I love your voice and manner of speaking
Thank you kindly! 😊
I'll say another thing... The DCA x Vanny/Vanessa shippers are THRIVING right now
Bruh
What's DCA?
@@Takejiro24 The Daycare Attendant
@@BellyThatProductions Oh! I see. Lol. Thanks. 👍
The hand that comes out of the charging station is the glitchtrap virus it has the same color and same stitch pattern on the hand. I don’t think the glitchtrap virus is gone bc the HELPY program in ruin which we believe is the virus hiding in the mask was arguing with the mimic and this game basically ended off at the beginning of ruin with giving Cassie the mask. Still don’t fully understand wha the secret ending meant I took it as Vanessa coming back to attempt to finish off the virus that had a hold of her but in ruin we know she didn’t fully succeed in that only taking it out of the main system instead of destroying the mask. Also this game explained why Roxy’s design changed was bc the player gave her the mask.
Some threads that point to things a in vague connecting way is the very essence of FNAF story telling :p
Oh, i really like your theory near the end
The problem I have is that it is basically confirming what we knew from Ruin, even though I thought Steelwool would by this point realise that nobody likes the lore they set in Ruin and would retcon it by now but intead they kept pushing.
What do you mean nobody likes the Ruin lore? What parts are unliked that are being backed up here?
Honestly, I thought the pod section in the neutral ending was just confirmation that Burntrap is Glitchtrap and that the Mimic uses Burntrap's agony as a source of reference for creating Glitchtrap. I mean, the purple eyes of Glitchtrap which is shared by Burntrap seems like a commonly overlooked detail and, more importantly, it SEPARATES Glitchtrap from William Afton since at no point in the original games did Springtrap or Scraptrap or even William Afton himself ever have purple looking eyes. The only time we saw something like this happen was when we saw Michael with purple eyes after he got scooped. But, if the whole "Funtime animatronics using Mimic software" is even remotely true, that's just another tie in for how the Mimic's software is represented with purple. A software likely created by Henry and was put to a corrupted purpose by Afton, hence Afton's signature purple being put in. It's also a pretty good analogy for William and Henry's dynamic in the story. Henry creates things intended for good, but Afton twists and corrupts them and puts them to use for evil. Also, has anyone else noticed that Afton isn't represented by purple nearly as much as we think he is? Most of his game sprites are a shade of purple, but he's also heavily associated with a gold or a rotten green colour. Probably even more so than purple. Honestly, the colour purple might just be more of a motif for evil in this franchise. But I'm getting off track here.
What this ending likely tells us is that Burntrap is still a factor into all of this. Just because his ending is canon doesn't mean his existence isn't canon. They confirmed as much with the Blob (or Tangle) in Ruin. Maybe he's still down there. Maybe that's why Burntrap's in the pod to begin with? So that the Mimic can still access it wirelessly without leaving its room. Maybe it could have also been used as a second body. If the Mimic itself is a software, that software being morphed into Glitchtrap, then its goal probably isn't to be limited by one body, that being the body we see in Ruin. We know it likes to copy things. And what better way to copy Afton than to use his actual remains as a source? And, if Vanessa and Gregory did do something to Afton's remains prior to Ruin (since Vanessa probably knows about it since it was probably Vanny that put it all together), then that could explain why the Mimic was reaching out to Cassie to begin with since its source of Afton and Glitchtrap is gone. Maybe that's a setup for another game? Maybe Gregory and Vanessa do actually have Burntrap hidden somewhere away from the Mimic's reach?
Plus, I just really like the idea that the Mimic and Vanny were keeping Afton's remains down in the lower levels of the pizzeria. It's like an ancient Egyptian mummy being preserved in a sarcophagus within an ancient tomb long since been buried. It doesn't mean Afton is back, it just means that his IMPACT on the story is still important. Honestly, the whole thing adds more potential to the story if you think about it. Henry destroyed Afton, but he couldn't erase the impact he left. And that impact is still being felt today with some sort of OTHER evil trying to resurrect the past.
(Congrats if you read all this, I honestly cannot arrange my thoughts very well.)
Hey, Ezeckiel here! The way you said, "and i think someone at steel wool is toying with me." Is funny!😁 Anyway, the endings are super canon, we see the mask bot giving the V.A.N.N.I mask,🐰👹 and Cassie looks sooo adorable! But we see that Princess Quest 4 is super cool, we saw Vanny crushing Glitchtrap, which means he is gone forever! Also, the hand we saw in the Recharge Station is actually Glitchtrap's hand! Huzzah!!🏇🤺
Help Wanted 2 has seemed amazing so far, now’s theorists’ time to shine. Help Wanted 2’s endings are very confusing.
"Oh horror of horrors! Everything I wanted fnaf to do! And why must it be inconsistent with all that stuff I hate?!"
theory: we are playing as Vanessa, who returned to the VR world to defeat Afton within his own domain (based on Candy Cadet's stories)
I'm just spitballing here, and this is entirely speculation, but what if Jack-O-Moon is ment to represent the opposite of the Eclipse? Eclipse is all of Sun and Moon's good personality traits rolled into one, so what if Jack-O-Moon is the bad parts of both mixed?
That would be cool!
That could lead to a more interesting game whenever they get back to continuing the main story
A big point for playing as Cassie’s dad that I’ve seen is her incredibly unusual description of the Bonnie mask in ruin. I believe it reads “Where are you?” Which is a big departure from the other text which reads things like “I always slept the best in the daycare” or “Yargh!” General statements. This most likely is not referring to glamrock Bonnie as it still shows after you find his remains. Therefore, she is probably referring to somebody close to her they she relates to the Bonnie mask, the same Bonnie mask that our player character in help wanted 2 finds familiar in the PQ ending. Cassie’s dad and the player character are h the only two currently important characters that are associated with Bonnie and specifically a Bonnie mask.
(Side note: I know that the mask description never mentions Cassie’s dad but he’s the only known character that is related to Cassie and he has gotten an excellent buildup to be an important character)
Edit: Features of the player character that are shared with Cassie’s dad:
1. Is a fazbear technician (not confirmed but you are hinted to be one by glamrock Freddy)
2. Has access to a V.A.N.N.I. Mask
3.Has a faz wrench
Good question!
I'll watch this a little later, I don't know if I wanna spoil myself on HW2 yet or not, not counting a short bit of gameplay from another fnaf tuber, all I wanted to say is I think the game looks pretty cool, I was just playing FNAF 6 when this was uploaded, reeling from a jumpscare, and of course hoping you're doing well note! like I said I'll come back again later and hopefully have 2 cents to give.
15:03 I love that moon is getting a bigger rule considering he’s my favorite animatronic in the franchise and him possibly being the second biggest villain in the franchise I would adore
I find it really strange how the daycare attendant (specificly moon) seem to be THAT important in just ONE game im not complaining or anything it could be an interesting dynamic with Vanny and Moon (if that's what the ending means) I like how sassy some of the sun voicelines are gives him alot more personality than just the fandom saying he is "the nice guy" Carnie is a strange but cool addition Jack-o-moon is random but very cool design wise (though I feel like it could have had a better name like Harvest moon) Glitchtrap is dead???? The first ending confuses me a whole lot more than the second is the glitchtrap in the recharging station supossed to confirm Glitchtrap is burntrap???? But we already knew that Burntrap was most likely Glitchtrap it doesen't say much since we still don't know if Burntrap is the Mimic or not. Kind of dissapointed there wasn't any new voicelines for the Funtimes (besides Baby) speaking of Baby, I feel like Baby was done decently well in the minigame at least from what I saw as I don't have the game her new voicelines in my opinion make her a bit more threatening and it's cool to see the ice cream in action even if for some reason there is glove that moves very human like. Im suprised the mimic didn't even make a cameo people were saying they were in the endo minigame which I didn't believe but im shocked that Glitchtrap appeares MORE than the mimic in this game I expected Glitchtrap to not even appear at all since I thought they were destroyed. I personally think we are playing as Cassie's dad even though I'd like it NOT to be it probably is Cassie's dad possibly possesing Mask bot would be interesting. Also I hate how SHAFTED monty was in the files apparently Monty was gonna be in the game and he has an unused galery....Thing im not sure how to call it gallery image??? I feel like if Monty was in there it could've said whether he destroyed Bonnie or not. Also I feel like a "Prototype" Freddy minigame would be very cool if "Prototype" Freddy isn't Glamrock Freddy. Im sad Molten Freddy and Scraptrap didn't appear even if it sort of made sense. Oh yeah and about the strange "voiceline choices" specificly for Roxy and Glamrock Freddy I mean I don't think I need to say anymore they knew what they were doing. Im sorry about my long rant but I wanted to talk about ALOT of stuff. Edit: So apparently in the S.T.A.F.F Bot makeover minigame you can get Monty in the gallery but still he is not in any of the minigames.
Thank goodness I binged SuperHorrorBro's let's play, now I can watch this video 😁💜
Oh I just did that too!
Hey! Have you also noticed that pig patch specifically was in the first helpy level? I think steel wool saw your mediocre melodies video
It's Glitchtrap's hand in the recharge pod.
Oh, then there's Glitchtrap again, lol.
i noticed the scars on the hand coming out of the charging station macthed glitchtraps hand scars exactly. Also, weird thing, a nightmarrione plush can be found in princess quest in HW2 behind one of the pillars. You cant grab it or interact with it but I found that odd
Really want to see your opinion on the minigames and characters, more excited for the rants, principaly about certain few minigames and characters (the Ballora one and Plushbabies for example)
Also, rip Vanny, she just can't be an enemy in an game 😭😭
4:41 for anyone who doesn't know, if you look at Mask bot specifically with the Vanni mask, you can see a human brain and a few other organs, he's the only staff bot that doesn't turn fully purple while looking at with the vanni mask