I'm still using my 4 D3 nikons and love them. Full time pro, 3 have had new shutters and between the 4 of them I'm well over 1,000,000 shots. I do a lot of news and sports and these just work, love them
The Nikon D3 is always be a great canera. . Have 6 of them and the clicks are well above the 800.000 and still shots perfect. Use it for portraits and risky places. Seek the perfect picture that come one in a lifetime. The Nikon D4 is the last best camera that Nikon have built. Shoot always with metal prime lenses since i had a Nikon F5.
@@johandenhertog6878 are we talking about the D3 or D3s? Tempted to pick up a D3 with 9700 actuations for about 500USD and when looking at reviews on it they always prais the D3 but all of them are praising the D3s with apparently much better low light performance...
Lucky to find a D4 in 2022 that is pristine and had 5100 clicks all for under $1K. don't think Ill ever sell it and you're right, great pics straight out of camera.
I have one and I agree with the D4. Wicked fine camera and it's below a grand used ! I won't sell mine even tho I have a Z6ii, a Z8 and a Z9. It's worth more as a spare than the cash. LOVE my D4.
I´m on a budget. Im going to sell all my Fujilfilm equipment (XS10, 23mm 1.4, 12mm f2, 18-55 mm, 55-230 mm), and keep just two lenses (18 mm f2 and 35 mm 1.4). And im gonna stick with my old Nikon equipment. Im gonna buy a MINT condition Nikon D7100 for 280 dollars, a Tokina 11 - 20 m 2.8, Sigma 17 50 2.8 and a Sigma 30 mm 1.4. And use them till it dies. Thanks for the advices.
From my personal experience, the secret BEST buy full frame Nikon camera is the d600/d610! Everyone was scared of the shutter leak issue so soooo many were being sold for cheap and people stayed away from them and therefore it’s one of those that’s just off the radar so it can be had for cheap. 610 didn’t have shutter issues, and early 600 with the issues got 610 shutters put in them for free from Nikon. it’s the predecessor to the d750, and it’s a damn good camera. I’ve always used it as backup to my d810, and most of the time it was the main cuss it was just lighter to carry around. As per his analogy, so many people buy a new d3xxx or d5xxx for same price as a slightly used d600/610!! Full frame modern camera with video for a few hundred bucks, it’s really the Best Buy Nikon full frame dslr atm for the price point!
D610 autofocus is absolute trash. And that smaller AF selection range in the viewfinder...a terrible camera. Wish I'd have bought a D700 or D800 back in 2016 for my first camera. Whoops.
I agree on cameras, although with a car, if you spend $10,000 on a new car you won't have to spend anything else for three years. With a $10,000 German car, you're spending $5,000/year in maintenance to keep it to a high standard.
I recently bought a new Nikon D500, along with several second-hand lenses, for indoor sports like hockey and basketball. I'm getting phenomenal photos from it. You can see the sweat dripping off the players faces when using the Nikon 70-200 VR.
They are incredibly fast cameras too. You can't fill up the buffer. One of the best cameras out there for action. They do tend to blow highlights though.
Agree completely! I bought a new D500 and a new 70-200 FL ED VR for shooting swimming meets. Photos were breathtaking. Do you own the 24-70 2.8 VR? I bought a used 17-55 2.8. It's no comparison to the 70-200. I am thinking to get the 24-70 2.8 VR even I would miss 17-23 range.
@@jamesw4445 I also have the 17-55 2.8 but would prefer VR for sports/action photography. I don't have the 24-70 2.8 but it's something I will look into. (I don't have the steadiest hands in the world, so VR is always helpful. lol). When it comes to sports, The 24-70 range would work for me because I usually only go down to 17mm if I'm shooting a group photo at close range. Thanks for the suggestion.
@@Shishkiboom In the same boat. I plan to buy a new 24-70 VR in 3-4 months. I bought a used genuine MB-D17 battery pack from ebay and it helped a lot: better balance and double the batteries. On top of that, very cooling looking.
Your low end .. is my high end .. d7200 also some from Paleolithic time like d50 and 70s ..😂 still for share on social media or 4x6 , 5x7 they have enough quality plus also have built-in af motor and 1/500 flash synch .. so still make me happy with the result .. and my Hyundai all ready pass 205,000 miles without problems..
My from new D3s has been hammered I’m not delicate or precious with my gear i shoot sports news events street astro landscapes anything and everything I still love this beast. If the time comes to upgrade the nikon I really don’t know where to go my gut tells me the D5 or 6 just because I love the look and feel of the D series yet so much talk of the Z series. Fingers crossed the D3s lives longer than I do. Saying all this if I drop on a cheap D4 I’m in 😏
that "crapbox" on average, lasts a lot longer than the showy car. and, if you run into a repair issue.... you're going to pay alright when you go with the showy car. also, not sure if you follow cars but some of the higher end "nice" brands do not old their value at all. like audi, volvo...
The Nikon D4 - and its amateur oriented sibling, the Dƒ. I wondered whether the 16mp of the Dƒ was enough; my optometrist had said 12mp was enough. When I got the Epson Surecolor P800, with its 17x22 inch print capacity, I was amazed at the quality of those big prints: 16mp is more than enough if that's as big as you're going to print. Don't need all those megapixels, need those "big eyes".
jganun I have a DF as Well and was also amazed at the large prints at 16x20. I think most of us are not making huge prints, and if that’s the case, then I think 16 mp is plenty. Btw, the DF really feels more like a Nikon film SLR and I find myself taking photos and not concentrating on gear.
I have two Nikon D4 bodies I use for sports and journalism. I have a D800E I use for portraits. I just sold my d500 and currently selling my D750 with full intentions of buying the D780. You, once again, have sold me on a low shutter county D4. I just love this FN camera, and I love consistency and dependability without having to change lenses with having multiple cameras - especially sports. Damn, I love this camera.
Thank you so much for the video. I’m planning to purchase my very first DSLR which is Nikon D750 along with 85mm 1.8 + 50mm 1.8 G lens. I’m wondering is it still worth to buy this camera considering 5 years old?. Purpose of buying a camera is for taking Portraits, Still, Landscape, Bird, Product photography (learning) and of course my kids. It would be really great if you throw some lights on my concern to make a wise decision.... other options I have considered is Nikon D780 with one of the lens and Z6ii with the kit lens... apart from D780 and Z6ii I have been suggesting to go with D850 with the kit lens. Since you own D800 so I can gain some more information and evaluate my decision. Thank you and looking forward to your recommendation.
Certainly understand your reasoning for choosing the D4 over the D810. But let's say I already own a D500, which I love, and have no plans to get rid of... Since that covers my needs for wildlife and sports, would you then say that the D810 (or maybe even a D800/D800E) would be a better second camera than the D4 for portraiture, events, and landscapes? I wonder if a D4 would be too much "overlap" in what the camera specializes in. If I buy a second body (which I would want if I start doing events), I'd like to also make sure I'm getting the most bang for my buck across the spectrum of camera strengths. Thanks!
I love Nikon DSLRs. By the way, what's your opinion for D750? I'm really anxious whether Nikon will continue producing/ supporting new/existing DSLRs, since the naked aggressive marketing for the mirrorless.
I recently bought a “nearly new” D810 with just over 2000 actuations. I had been using a D7000 for years. Still have it and DX lenses. D810 for urban and rural landscapes via focus stacking and Lightzone in post. Having a great time. Thank you for your excellent videos. A fan from England.
D7100, D700, D810 ... all per your recommendation at one point or another. The output from each is slightly different, but all are fantastic. For what they are worth on fleaBay these days ... they will all be staying with me, likely forever. Thanks for the great recommendations over the years.
If you can’t stand the humongous body and weight of D4 then go get a Df - that is assuming (a)you don’t care about video and (b) not particularly a fast action sports shooter - since all the eloquence Mr.Angry is waxing on D4 applies to the Df. It’s basically got the same sensor as D4 and slightly better performing in low light.
6:57 my extremely rare 2011 charger rt mopar 11 was treated well but driven hard. I would take that over a new crappy car but the cost to repair and the reliability with no warranty would be bad. What if its the same with a d4 and a d7500?
I bought a D700 in 2020 for 260 euro (280 dollar), still need to go get it. It will be my first Nikon camera. If I'm happy with it, I might get the D4 when prices go down a bit.
I'm looking to get into FX photography, and am planning on getting a Nikon D600. The D4 is too expensive, sadly. I know it has some issues, but since it's just a starter camera meant to be as cheap as possible, I'm not planning on keeping it for a super long anyway - as long as it lasts for a year or two I'd be satisfied. Maybe I'll consider a D4 by that point.
Five years ago swapped my D600 for a Fuji X-T1. Was blown away and would never go back, a few years later I upgraded to a X-T3 and its faster , better autofocus but the final results are barely better the the XT1 or my X-T2. Try one you may be amazed how top notch crop sensors compete very well to ‘so-called’ full frame cameras.
I bought a used D810. A big improvement in image quality over my D7100. Only problem is that when I AF Fine Tuned my lenses they looked best right at the limit of minus 20. I was wondering about anyone's experience sending their D810 into Nikon for focus calibration?
Been using mine for 4 years now (bought it second hand). Love it to bits. Shoot semi professionally with it and my D700. I shoot mainly for social media so no need to blow up. D750 dynamic range and IQ is fantastic. Highly recommend.
I'm no expert but::: I own the d700---d3s-and d500. For my portraits and landscapes I use the first two. And for my wildlife shooting. The d500 with the 200-500 nikor lens is absolutely incredible. Love all three of my nikons. The d4 may be coming soon!!!!!. I will not buy any more after that. There is simply no need to. i'm just a hobby shooter with great nikons. I know what works and what don't with these nikons as far as taking pics with them.
Your the go to guy on TH-cam no doubt ! I bought my D4s per your advice. I want a DX camera with similar button arrangements for distance shooting with my fx lenses. What’s your recommendation ?
I just picked up a Nikon D4 with 205k shutter for $1,000 last week! I also got a D3 from a veteran photographer for a few days of assisting. And last a D700 back in November for $400 with a grip and under 2k shutter. I'm set for cameras and I saved a lot of money thanks to Kens recommendations!
I never understood why someone would buy a camera with that high a shutter count, unless of course it was absolutely essential to their type of work. Some car engines can last almost a million kms or more but that doesn't mean you should get one with 200,000kms on it. Even if something is really good it has been used/abused enough by this point
@@NalinKhurb depends on the price and cosmetics... 200k for these type of pro camera bodies is not that high. It's the last thing I would worry about... And A shutter unit can be replaced. I'd rather have a camera that's 9/10 cosmetically with 200k than a 7/10 with 50k
Self Grendizer Yeah I mean if you can find in good condition, then it's cool, but it's difficult. How often do you find 'that much' used camera in a good condition? If the person could keep it in a 9/10 condition, he'd love that thing too much to sell in the first place Me personally won't buy, I'd rather get a lower end model with lower shutter count.
Which of these would you consider the better deal for landscapes? Right now my local camera shop has a D4 for $800 and a D500 for $900, both in equal condition.
i just got Nikon D700 for 300$ with 3 lakh shutter count and i sold my previous D700 with 6lakh shutter count for 210$... will get a used D4 soon.. i shoot product and fashion.. all you pixel peepers and 1000 point autofocus guys plz sell your D4s and d700s..
Just discovered your videos and I must say I’ve found them really helpful. I’ve been a Canon user and shoot mainly aviation. I’m considering the D850 as an upgrade and would like your thoughts on whether the D850 is a good choice for fast moving aircraft photography. I’ve got a budget of around £2000 for a used one and will probably get a 100-400mm lens as well. Really enjoy the honesty of your reviews.
Aww dang, I just subscribed last night (I work nights) and I bought a D700 within 2 hours of watching you, I hope I don't start buying at this rate everyday, you going to cost me a lot 😅
How do you like your d700? What did you upgrade from? I'm looking to buy d750 but the price of a d700 (both used) sounds way better. I'm moving from d 7100.
@@julitazebrowski2449 I love it, it's heavy,chunky,but that's part of why I love it. It's images just look like a vintage old camera but with just the right amount of new technology. I do wish it had WiFi capability though,it would be a lot easier to transfer images if I'm not printing them large. It's not as easy as today's smartphones to make a good image without all the computer algorithms,but when you make the right exposure the images are so artistic. No computations from a phone can take those creamy photos. I got a older vintage Nikon lens that makes it even heavier and better. I have a newer D7200 24mp that I like and it's more advanced,but the D700 gives me more dramatic images I feel.
@@MrFordguy73 thanks for your reply! I did buy the d700, I got it a few days ago. Still haven't had much time to give it a good try, but every time I try I like it more and more. I think ill hod on to it until everyone goes mirrorless and d850 will go down significantly. I'm also thinking of d4 as an option. We'll see! 🙂
I have both a D7000 and D7100 I do wildlife as hobby and do landscape non- professional but would love to get something for low light as I do go to lots of late night concerts and bar gigs so what do you recommend? I would love a FX body between $1,000 & $1,500
JUst purchased our D4s in excellent condition low shutter 60k, just a tad over £1K, very clean. We have a couple of D800s and the D850 for studio. Also a D3, mint for a song off eBay, in immaculate condition, love both cameras, The D4's are coming down in price, delighted that we found it.
Hi, I have a D3X, similar to your obsession with the D4. I have a D3 which has just died and gone to heaven. So going to replace with either a D4s, D850 or possibly a more battle worn 150,000 clicks D5. What do you recommend? Would appreciate your advice, Less frantic than Jared. Cheers from UK
I agree with the comments on the D4 series. But for me it’s the D3 as well. I paid over $5,000 in 2008 and backed it with a D700 not long afterward. It was great for shooting weddings and other events and just as good for all other tasks. In 2017, the electronics went bad and Nikon would fix it for $680. Instead I found a used one at B&H for $1,300 which is nearby and it is nearly like new. I figure somebody thought buying a pro camera would give them pro images and found out it took more in the head to do so. I have owned a D300, D800, a D750 and now a Z7 in my life of retirement. But if I want to shoot portraits and some other tasks, i go back to the old cameras.
I just tried something on my D3s I haven't tried before. I put my nikon 17-55 2.8 on it and WOW!!!. From 34mm up to 55 its perfect. No vignetting at all. Of course 34mm and below "Yes Vingnetting" But if you crop your shots as i do often its also fine there too. One just has to frame there shots properly to get what you want when cropping at 34mm and below.. Just good to know for me. Its a heavy combo tho. So for just walking around and snapping street or whatever i'll just use the nikon 35mm f2D or maybe 7100 with f2d.
Nice video, Ken. I think its much better for get D7100 for 300 USD and save money for great 17-55/2.8. In fact just for 850-900 USD now people can get really pro zoom lens with great D7100.
@@MrBassrazz I have and use most D3s, to be honest, but soon want to take second camera, because of not always is necessarly to use D3s, and D7100 can replace it in many situations, also want to take telephoto zoom, maybe 100-400, crop sensor is great for it, will make it even longer.
I bought a Nikon D500 after I saw you highly recommended it, I am very happy with that, I shoot large wildlife n not bif, I now want to buy another camera to go with my Nikon AFS 300mm f2.8d non VR lens, again your recommendation, should I go for the D4 or buy another D500?
I shoot real estate and and portraits. The D800/D810 are where it's at for me. Tons of dynamic range and plenty of pixels. I also have a D3s but use it rarely for sports/moving subjects. Not sure I'd use a D4 much more than I'm using my D3s. In fact, I am considering using the D3s as a trade in on a Nikkor 19mm f4 PC lens. I wish those damn things weren't so pricey.
This video is perfect timing for me! Considering an upgrade but didn't know what to look at. So a D500 would be a good do everything camera (not much portraiture)?
I think if you're just going to use it for photography (not video) the D3X is a steal. It's a pro build and the sensor produces beautiful images straight out of camera or otherwise. I got mine for $630 bucks and I love it.
Funny but you said the Nikon D7200 was MUCH worse than the Nikon D7100 a few years ago Haha ! I tried the Nikon D7100 and 7200 and thought the 7200 absolutely blew away the 7100 ! But anyway usually I love the reviews you do but I've caught you a few times over the years going backwards on a prior review. Its all good, at least you correct the latter .. I just feel sorry for the people who bought a 7100 over the 7200 listening to the older review
Found a Nikon D800E on Craigslist, guy listed it as broken/for parts for $150. It seemed to be cosmetically impeccable so I was like what the hell, at most I'll sell it again for $150 if the fix is too difficult. I bought it and sure enough, it didn't work. However, I understood that these particular bodies suffered from the Dead Battery Syndrome, just a busted PCB for the battery compartment. So I bought a third party battery grip for about $50, slapped it on, and BOOM! Brand spanking, fully functional D800E with 1700 pictures on the shutter!!! Apparently it belonged to the guy's tenant who simply dipped and left his belongings to be sold by the owner to recoup some of the rent. I am pretty heavily invested in Olympus, I just love those little bastards and even though I don't use my Nikon nearly as much anymore, I don't have the heart to sell it simply because of the story behind it. I have the old school 300 F/4 D, 80-200 f/2.8 D, 50mm f/1.4 to accompany the D800E so I have a pretty solid kit for just having fun. Okay bye.
Help Ken! How can I program the camera so that when its turned off, the aperture of the lens is also closed to avoid damaging the sensor due excesive innecesary light? as a Street Photographer/Photojournalist having the lens cap off can be a huge factor in getting the picture or not!
Just bought a D4 after hanging it up for a couple years last using a D810, D500, and a DF. I paid 1k with 74k on the shutter. Near mine condition with everything included as it was new. D4 is the best camera! 👍🏻 Zero interest in mirrorless btw.
I just grabbed a D3 in excellent condition for $581 however it didn't come with any accessories. Not even a battery. I ordered the Wasabi battery you requested.
Helloooo from the UK, I hope you see this question... of those mentioned in the video which camera would you recommend for wedding photography? Or would you choose something else altogether for similar price? Thanks big man.
Been looking at the D4 so nice to see that reinforced a bit. As for the bit about the South Korean crapbox, lol...mine has 86k miles on it and all I've had to do is change the oil and get new tires. My two buddies that have BMWs...have spent thousands in maintenance. I may not look sexy, lol, but I'll keep my crap box.
I'm new at photography. I'm trying to photograph lacrosse sticks, which are 30" long. I'm using a Nikkor 18-55 kit lens. The lens bends the sticks. What kind of lens do I need to stop this bending?
I have a Nikon D800 and Nikon D750 I start think in upgrade my gear. Im a landscape, architecture and gastronomy photographer but I love shooting waves as well, in your opinion what is the best upgrade I can make at this moment? I love your channel, thank you about the content you create ;)
i rented that camera for a wedding gig. it’s great in daylight but horrible in low lighting. I have the d750 and it’s amazing in low lighting and has a great dynamic range
I’ve had a D600 since it came out, and still use it for real estate and portraits. In my experience the sensor is excellent, but the files always need work in post, unlike the D700 or D850, which look great straight away.
I love your reviews. I just can't enjoy my D500 over my d4 for sports. I just bought another D4 and I'm about to sell off my D500. Images just look flat. The outputs of the D4, dependability, and battery-life....all WONDERFUL! I have less than $2k invested in 2 D4's. LOVE THEM! I use them for photojournalism and sports, and I use my D800E for portraiture. I have a Tamron 70-200 A001 laying around I don't use, so I am thinking about selling my d500 and this lens to pick up a low shutter count D750 to add to the arsenal. Thoughts? Good stuff, Ken!
I'm still using my 4 D3 nikons and love them. Full time pro, 3 have had new shutters and between the 4 of them I'm well over 1,000,000 shots. I do a lot of news and sports and these just work, love them
The Nikon D3 is always be a great canera. . Have 6 of them and the clicks are well above the 800.000 and still shots perfect. Use it for portraits and risky places. Seek the perfect picture that come one in a lifetime. The Nikon D4 is the last best camera that Nikon have built. Shoot always with metal prime lenses since i had a Nikon F5.
@@johandenhertog6878 are we talking about the D3 or D3s? Tempted to pick up a D3 with 9700 actuations for about 500USD and when looking at reviews on it they always prais the D3 but all of them are praising the D3s with apparently much better low light performance...
Dslrs getting cheaper thanks to the mirrorless crowd. Love it!
Lucky to find a D4 in 2022 that is pristine and had 5100 clicks all for under $1K. don't think Ill ever sell it and you're right, great pics straight out of camera.
Owned a D4 from New, will never sell it because it still gives me fantastic images.
2023:
Im rocking a D600 & D810.
Both bought for £725
Both under 20,000 shutter.
Plenty of Nikons take perfectly good pictures. And thousands of us have no intention to spend a fortune unnecessarily.
Got a low shutter count D7100 for 300 last week (CAD) and I'm pretty excited. My only issue is now finding an excuse to buy a D500!
I have one and I agree with the D4. Wicked fine camera and it's below a grand used ! I won't sell mine even tho I have a Z6ii, a Z8 and a Z9. It's worth more as a spare than the cash.
LOVE my D4.
The D3 is still tougher but the ergonomics and image output of the D4 are way superior.
Can you do this video for 2024 ? Is the D850 a bargain ? Trying to upgrade my D760 and keep running DSLRs for another 10 years
I´m on a budget. Im going to sell all my Fujilfilm equipment (XS10, 23mm 1.4, 12mm f2, 18-55 mm, 55-230 mm), and keep just two lenses (18 mm f2 and 35 mm 1.4). And im gonna stick with my old Nikon equipment. Im gonna buy a MINT condition Nikon D7100 for 280 dollars, a Tokina 11 - 20 m 2.8, Sigma 17 50 2.8 and a Sigma 30 mm 1.4. And use them till it dies. Thanks for the advices.
From my personal experience, the secret BEST buy full frame Nikon camera is the d600/d610! Everyone was scared of the shutter leak issue so soooo many were being sold for cheap and people stayed away from them and therefore it’s one of those that’s just off the radar so it can be had for cheap. 610 didn’t have shutter issues, and early 600 with the issues got 610 shutters put in them for free from Nikon. it’s the predecessor to the d750, and it’s a damn good camera. I’ve always used it as backup to my d810, and most of the time it was the main cuss it was just lighter to carry around. As per his analogy, so many people buy a new d3xxx or d5xxx for same price as a slightly used d600/610!! Full frame modern camera with video for a few hundred bucks, it’s really the Best Buy Nikon full frame dslr atm for the price point!
I have a D600 with shutter upgrade and a D610 and I really like them. I bought my D610 new, but the D600 was under $400 and really pristine.
D610 autofocus is absolute trash. And that smaller AF selection range in the viewfinder...a terrible camera. Wish I'd have bought a D700 or D800 back in 2016 for my first camera. Whoops.
What are your thoughts on the D610?
I agree on cameras, although with a car, if you spend $10,000 on a new car you won't have to spend anything else for three years. With a $10,000 German car, you're spending $5,000/year in maintenance to keep it to a high standard.
I recently bought a new Nikon D500, along with several second-hand lenses, for indoor sports like hockey and basketball. I'm getting phenomenal photos from it. You can see the sweat dripping off the players faces when using the Nikon 70-200 VR.
Shishkiboom been using that camera since it was released for food, commercial, sports, events, models and more. Great camera
They are incredibly fast cameras too. You can't fill up the buffer. One of the best cameras out there for action. They do tend to blow highlights though.
Agree completely! I bought a new D500 and a new 70-200 FL ED VR for shooting swimming meets. Photos were breathtaking. Do you own the 24-70 2.8 VR? I bought a used 17-55 2.8. It's no comparison to the 70-200. I am thinking to get the 24-70 2.8 VR even I would miss 17-23 range.
@@jamesw4445 I also have the 17-55 2.8 but would prefer VR for sports/action photography. I don't have the 24-70 2.8 but it's something I will look into. (I don't have the steadiest hands in the world, so VR is always helpful. lol). When it comes to sports, The 24-70 range would work for me because I usually only go down to 17mm if I'm shooting a group photo at close range. Thanks for the suggestion.
@@Shishkiboom In the same boat. I plan to buy a new 24-70 VR in 3-4 months. I bought a used genuine MB-D17 battery pack from ebay and it helped a lot: better balance and double the batteries. On top of that, very cooling looking.
Thanks for this, I have waited for listening to your thoughts about the d4. I have one and also a d700, also well trusted.
Take care
Your low end .. is my high end .. d7200 also some from Paleolithic time like d50 and 70s ..😂 still for share on social media or 4x6 , 5x7 they have enough quality plus also have built-in af motor and 1/500 flash synch .. so still make me happy with the result .. and my Hyundai all ready pass 205,000 miles without problems..
Hey Ken thanks for these videos! I took your advice and got myself a d7200. Keep rocking and my wallet thanks you as well
My from new D3s has been hammered I’m not delicate or precious with my gear i shoot sports news events street astro landscapes anything and everything I still love this beast. If the time comes to upgrade the nikon I really don’t know where to go my gut tells me the D5 or 6 just because I love the look and feel of the D series yet so much talk of the Z series. Fingers crossed the D3s lives longer than I do. Saying all this if I drop on a cheap D4 I’m in 😏
The D4 great but it's hard to find one that hasn't had all the life squeezed out of them.
They’re workhorses
Still got my d800e which suits me except doesn’t have flippy screen but when I need that I’ve got X-T2 so best of both worlds 😉
that "crapbox" on average, lasts a lot longer than the showy car. and, if you run into a repair issue.... you're going to pay alright when you go with the showy car. also, not sure if you follow cars but some of the higher end "nice" brands do not old their value at all. like audi, volvo...
cameras are different from cars that analogy was a bit off for cars
The Nikon D4 - and its amateur oriented sibling, the Dƒ. I wondered whether the 16mp of the Dƒ was enough; my optometrist had said 12mp was enough. When I got the Epson Surecolor P800, with its 17x22 inch print capacity, I was amazed at the quality of those big prints: 16mp is more than enough if that's as big as you're going to print. Don't need all those megapixels, need those "big eyes".
jganun I have a DF as Well and was also amazed at the large prints at 16x20. I think most of us are not making huge prints, and if that’s the case, then I think 16 mp is plenty. Btw, the DF really feels more like a Nikon film SLR and I find myself taking photos and not concentrating on gear.
You used to say the D7200 sucked compared to the D7100, badshadow detail and resolution...did it get fixed?
How about used D800 or the D3S? Are they worth spending money 2022?
I have two Nikon D4 bodies I use for sports and journalism. I have a D800E I use for portraits. I just sold my d500 and currently selling my D750 with full intentions of buying the D780. You, once again, have sold me on a low shutter county D4. I just love this FN camera, and I love consistency and dependability without having to change lenses with having multiple cameras - especially sports. Damn, I love this camera.
I think we have to much reliability on auto focus of course depending on the picture. I grew up manually focusing.
Hi. Worth buying D3s now as a first camera ? For street & night photography
Thank you so much for the video. I’m planning to purchase my very first DSLR which is Nikon D750 along with 85mm 1.8 + 50mm 1.8 G lens. I’m wondering is it still worth to buy this camera considering 5 years old?.
Purpose of buying a camera is for taking Portraits, Still, Landscape, Bird, Product photography (learning) and of course my kids.
It would be really great if you throw some lights on my concern to make a wise decision.... other options I have considered is Nikon D780 with one of the lens and Z6ii with the kit lens... apart from D780 and Z6ii I have been suggesting to go with D850 with the kit lens.
Since you own D800 so I can gain some more information and evaluate my decision.
Thank you and looking forward to your recommendation.
Certainly understand your reasoning for choosing the D4 over the D810. But let's say I already own a D500, which I love, and have no plans to get rid of... Since that covers my needs for wildlife and sports, would you then say that the D810 (or maybe even a D800/D800E) would be a better second camera than the D4 for portraiture, events, and landscapes? I wonder if a D4 would be too much "overlap" in what the camera specializes in. If I buy a second body (which I would want if I start doing events), I'd like to also make sure I'm getting the most bang for my buck across the spectrum of camera strengths. Thanks!
I love Nikon DSLRs. By the way, what's your opinion for D750? I'm really anxious whether Nikon will continue producing/ supporting new/existing DSLRs, since the naked aggressive marketing for the mirrorless.
I recently bought a “nearly new” D810 with just over 2000 actuations. I had been using a D7000 for years. Still have it and DX lenses. D810 for urban and rural landscapes via focus stacking and Lightzone in post. Having a great time. Thank you for your excellent videos. A fan from England.
D7100, D700, D810 ... all per your recommendation at one point or another. The output from each is slightly different, but all are fantastic. For what they are worth on fleaBay these days ... they will all be staying with me, likely forever. Thanks for the great recommendations over the years.
What do you use each for? I keep thinking about getting a d700 as an inexpensive entry into full frame. What's your opinion?
When are you doing the 2021 edition?
If you can’t stand the humongous body and weight of D4 then go get a Df - that is assuming (a)you don’t care about video and (b) not particularly a fast action sports shooter - since all the eloquence Mr.Angry is waxing on D4 applies to the Df. It’s basically got the same sensor as D4 and slightly better performing in low light.
you're damn right!!!!
Just bought a D700 and a D4 !!! Call me crazy in 2022 🤣🤣🤣
Both great camera bodies, excellent choice!
How about the D4s? What do you get more over the D4?
6:57 my extremely rare 2011 charger rt mopar 11 was treated well but driven hard. I would take that over a new crappy car but the cost to repair and the reliability with no warranty would be bad. What if its the same with a d4 and a d7500?
I bought a D700 in 2020 for 260 euro (280 dollar), still need to go get it. It will be my first Nikon camera. If I'm happy with it, I might get the D4 when prices go down a bit.
I'm looking to get into FX photography, and am planning on getting a Nikon D600. The D4 is too expensive, sadly. I know it has some issues, but since it's just a starter camera meant to be as cheap as possible, I'm not planning on keeping it for a super long anyway - as long as it lasts for a year or two I'd be satisfied. Maybe I'll consider a D4 by that point.
D610 and 600 are both lemmings
@@KenTheoriaApophasis Is that due to the oil on the sensor issue?
Get the D610, issues have been fixed on that dslr, I have one, it’s a great FX camera that yields results beyond your expectations.
Five years ago swapped my D600 for a Fuji X-T1. Was blown away and would never go back, a few years later I upgraded to a X-T3 and its faster , better autofocus but the final results are barely better the the XT1 or my X-T2. Try one you may be amazed how top notch crop sensors compete very well to ‘so-called’ full frame cameras.
@@garymanning4578 Thank you for the suggestion - I'll look into that!
I bought a used D810. A big improvement in image quality over my D7100. Only problem is that when I AF Fine Tuned my lenses they looked best right at the limit of minus 20. I was wondering about anyone's experience sending their D810 into Nikon for focus calibration?
Ken, where does the Nikon D750 fall, in your opinion? It's going for about $879 New and $700 Used.
Been using mine for 4 years now (bought it second hand). Love it to bits. Shoot semi professionally with it and my D700. I shoot mainly for social media so no need to blow up. D750 dynamic range and IQ is fantastic. Highly recommend.
Unless the prices jumped drastically since this video was made, D4 listed from 1500 to over 3 grand on eBay. Where are you finding these for a grand?
I'm no expert but::: I own the d700---d3s-and d500. For my portraits and landscapes I use the first two. And for my wildlife shooting. The d500 with the 200-500 nikor lens is absolutely incredible. Love all three of my nikons. The d4 may be coming soon!!!!!. I will not buy any more after that. There is simply no need to. i'm just a hobby shooter with great nikons. I know what works and what don't with these nikons as far as taking pics with them.
david ellison same here.
Three Nikon F2s, a F5, a D3 and a D4. All no brainers. Just working beasts.
@@the_original_skytiger TRUE. I have the passion. But sometimes money rules over that. LoL.
Your the go to guy on TH-cam no doubt ! I bought my D4s per your advice. I want a DX camera with similar button arrangements for distance shooting with my fx lenses. What’s your recommendation ?
D500 is the only choice if You want great DX quality
I just picked up a Nikon D4 with 205k shutter for $1,000 last week! I also got a D3 from a veteran photographer for a few days of assisting. And last a D700 back in November for $400 with a grip and under 2k shutter. I'm set for cameras and I saved a lot of money thanks to Kens recommendations!
How high of a shutter count will you expect with this model?
@@Shok1t d4 have 400k but they can go past a million ...
I never understood why someone would buy a camera with that high a shutter count, unless of course it was absolutely essential to their type of work.
Some car engines can last almost a million kms or more but that doesn't mean you should get one with 200,000kms on it. Even if something is really good it has been used/abused enough by this point
@@NalinKhurb depends on the price and cosmetics... 200k for these type of pro camera bodies is not that high. It's the last thing I would worry about... And A shutter unit can be replaced. I'd rather have a camera that's 9/10 cosmetically with 200k than a 7/10 with 50k
Self Grendizer Yeah I mean if you can find in good condition, then it's cool, but it's difficult. How often do you find 'that much' used camera in a good condition? If the person could keep it in a 9/10 condition, he'd love that thing too much to sell in the first place
Me personally won't buy, I'd rather get a lower end model with lower shutter count.
D4 Nikon on eBay is $2,700 or you can get a D800 Nikon for $1,500 or a D810 I kind of in the market for a 30 plus pixel
Well one of the best portrait shooter Dani Diamond used a D800 and a D810 for a long time so its good enough for average joe too
Which of these would you consider the better deal for landscapes? Right now my local camera shop has a D4 for $800 and a D500 for $900, both in equal condition.
i just got Nikon D700 for 300$ with 3 lakh shutter count and i sold my previous D700 with 6lakh shutter count for 210$... will get a used D4 soon.. i shoot product and fashion.. all you pixel peepers and 1000 point autofocus guys plz sell your D4s and d700s..
Please one on D500 vs XT4, has the buffer improved from XT3 or D500 is still on top?
What about the d750?
Just discovered your videos and I must say I’ve found them really helpful. I’ve been a Canon user and shoot mainly aviation. I’m considering the D850 as an upgrade and would like your thoughts on whether the D850 is a good choice for fast moving aircraft photography. I’ve got a budget of around £2000 for a used one and will probably get a 100-400mm lens as well. Really enjoy the honesty of your reviews.
Aww dang, I just subscribed last night (I work nights) and I bought a D700 within 2 hours of watching you, I hope I don't start buying at this rate everyday, you going to cost me a lot 😅
How do you like your d700? What did you upgrade from? I'm looking to buy d750 but the price of a d700 (both used) sounds way better. I'm moving from d 7100.
@@julitazebrowski2449 I love it, it's heavy,chunky,but that's part of why I love it. It's images just look like a vintage old camera but with just the right amount of new technology. I do wish it had WiFi capability though,it would be a lot easier to transfer images if I'm not printing them large. It's not as easy as today's smartphones to make a good image without all the computer algorithms,but when you make the right exposure the images are so artistic. No computations from a phone can take those creamy photos. I got a older vintage Nikon lens that makes it even heavier and better. I have a newer D7200 24mp that I like and it's more advanced,but the D700 gives me more dramatic images I feel.
@@MrFordguy73 thanks for your reply! I did buy the d700, I got it a few days ago. Still haven't had much time to give it a good try, but every time I try I like it more and more. I think ill hod on to it until everyone goes mirrorless and d850 will go down significantly. I'm also thinking of d4 as an option. We'll see! 🙂
If landscape is your game. How about the D800 or D800e for a best value option? Do they have the autofocus issues similar to the D810? Thanks Ken
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I have both a D7000 and D7100 I do wildlife as hobby and do landscape non- professional but would love to get something for low light as I do go to lots of late night concerts and bar gigs so what do you recommend? I would love a FX body between $1,000 & $1,500
JUst purchased our D4s in excellent condition low shutter 60k, just a tad over £1K, very clean. We have a couple of D800s and the D850 for studio. Also a D3, mint for a song off eBay, in immaculate condition, love both cameras, The D4's are coming down in price, delighted that we found it.
Hi, I have a D3X, similar to your obsession with the D4. I have a D3 which has just died and gone to heaven. So going to replace with either a D4s, D850 or possibly a more battle worn 150,000 clicks D5. What do you recommend? Would appreciate your advice, Less frantic than Jared. Cheers from UK
Did you watch the video? You can elminate the D5 immediately.
@@burntvirtue bought a D4s
With this coronavirus epidemic some people are hoarding toilet paper meanwhile Ken is busy hoarding parts for Nikon D4 😅
lol just said same :)
Derrick Spurrier I have the D3 with low shutter count (less than 10k), I think it’s a good camera even at 12 megapixels.
Get a bidet and you can save for camera parts.
In 2022 which would you recommend the D4 vs one of the Z mirrorless body, how does the performance compares.
I agree with the comments on the D4 series. But for me it’s the D3 as well. I paid over $5,000 in 2008 and backed it with a D700 not long afterward. It was great for shooting weddings and other events and just as good for all other tasks. In 2017, the electronics went bad and Nikon would fix it for $680. Instead I found a used one at B&H for $1,300 which is nearby and it is nearly like new. I figure somebody thought buying a pro camera would give them pro images and found out it took more in the head to do so. I have owned a D300, D800, a D750 and now a Z7 in my life of retirement. But if I want to shoot portraits and some other tasks, i go back to the old cameras.
I just tried something on my D3s I haven't tried before. I put my nikon 17-55 2.8 on it and WOW!!!. From 34mm up to 55 its perfect. No vignetting at all. Of course 34mm and below "Yes Vingnetting" But if you crop your shots as i do often its also fine there too. One just has to frame there shots properly to get what you want when cropping at 34mm and below.. Just good to know for me. Its a heavy combo tho. So for just walking around and snapping street or whatever i'll just use the nikon 35mm f2D or maybe 7100 with f2d.
D4 toughest? What happened to the old D3/D3s that you praised so much? Or it finally showed his age?
Nice video, Ken. I think its much better for get D7100 for 300 USD and save money for great 17-55/2.8. In fact just for 850-900 USD now people can get really pro zoom lens with great D7100.
My main rig for the last five years. D7100 with the 17-55 works just fine for 80% of my shooting. D850 rentals for more pro gigs.
@@MrBassrazz I have and use most D3s, to be honest, but soon want to take second camera, because of not always is necessarly to use D3s, and D7100 can replace it in many situations, also want to take telephoto zoom, maybe 100-400, crop sensor is great for it, will make it even longer.
I bought a Nikon D500 after I saw you highly recommended it, I am very happy with that, I shoot large wildlife n not bif, I now want to buy another camera to go with my Nikon AFS 300mm f2.8d non VR lens, again your recommendation, should I go for the D4 or buy another D500?
Hello Ken,
I am waiting for your recommendation one more time, d500 or d4 to pair with the Nikon 300mm 2.8.
@@sc12100 And I did buy another D500. Thanks
Using an old d3100 that I had for years. Looking to upgrade in about six months to d500
reckon the d4 has better image quality than the fuji xt3 ?
SlR yes
I have just bought a nikon d4 and now i am 100% sure i chosed the right camera
youre 100% right
Theoria Apophasis thank you very much. I love your videos
I shoot real estate and and portraits. The D800/D810 are where it's at for me. Tons of dynamic range and plenty of pixels. I also have a D3s but use it rarely for sports/moving subjects. Not sure I'd use a D4 much more than I'm using my D3s. In fact, I am considering using the D3s as a trade in on a Nikkor 19mm f4 PC lens. I wish those damn things weren't so pricey.
For wedding photography which camera between nikon d4 & nikon z5 are better?
D4 has got much better autofocus in low light but it's also much heavier.
This video is perfect timing for me! Considering an upgrade but didn't know what to look at. So a D500 would be a good do everything camera (not much portraiture)?
Absolutely spectacular camera and they do portraits perfectly well.
I think if you're just going to use it for photography (not video) the D3X is a steal. It's a pro build and the sensor produces beautiful images straight out of camera or otherwise. I got mine for $630 bucks and I love it.
Lost Rhodes What’s the sensor size of the D3X?
@@russellwright9961 Google it.
Lost Rhodes I know I can, just thought you had it in mind already...
My cheap $100 RCA LAPTOP takes detailed photos, haven't even tried video yet but how do they make a dollar...cheers
Funny but you said the Nikon D7200 was MUCH worse than the Nikon D7100 a few years ago Haha ! I tried the Nikon D7100 and 7200 and thought the 7200 absolutely blew away the 7100 ! But anyway usually I love the reviews you do but I've caught you a few times over the years going backwards on a prior review. Its all good, at least you correct the latter .. I just feel sorry for the people who bought a 7100 over the 7200 listening to the older review
Found a Nikon D800E on Craigslist, guy listed it as broken/for parts for $150. It seemed to be cosmetically impeccable so I was like what the hell, at most I'll sell it again for $150 if the fix is too difficult. I bought it and sure enough, it didn't work. However, I understood that these particular bodies suffered from the Dead Battery Syndrome, just a busted PCB for the battery compartment. So I bought a third party battery grip for about $50, slapped it on, and BOOM! Brand spanking, fully functional D800E with 1700 pictures on the shutter!!! Apparently it belonged to the guy's tenant who simply dipped and left his belongings to be sold by the owner to recoup some of the rent. I am pretty heavily invested in Olympus, I just love those little bastards and even though I don't use my Nikon nearly as much anymore, I don't have the heart to sell it simply because of the story behind it. I have the old school 300 F/4 D, 80-200 f/2.8 D, 50mm f/1.4 to accompany the D800E so I have a pretty solid kit for just having fun. Okay bye.
Help Ken! How can I program the camera so that when its turned off, the aperture of the lens is also closed to avoid damaging the sensor due excesive innecesary light? as a Street Photographer/Photojournalist having the lens cap off can be a huge factor in getting the picture or not!
Just bought a D4 after hanging it up for a couple years last using a D810, D500, and a DF.
I paid 1k with 74k on the shutter. Near mine condition with everything included as it was new.
D4 is the best camera! 👍🏻
Zero interest in mirrorless btw.
Does the N i k o n d500 is worth buying now (end of 2020) for Wildlife???
I just grabbed a D3 in excellent condition for $581 however it didn't come with any accessories. Not even a battery. I ordered the Wasabi battery you requested.
Do you still recommend D700?
yes, yes great idea read reviews!!!!
Hey just landed my d4 on eBay only had 8400 shots 1050 thanks
What about mirrorless Nikon's, the z50s and z7s etc?
you keep em
Ken, your recommended best Nikon lenses.... Can some one post the link please.
Thank you.
@Barry Vaughan link please.
@@renaldfranley2258 us the search function
@@vinvanman i can't find it, that why i am asking.
Helloooo from the UK, I hope you see this question... of those mentioned in the video which camera would you recommend for wedding photography? Or would you choose something else altogether for similar price?
Thanks big man.
Been looking at the D4 so nice to see that reinforced a bit. As for the bit about the South Korean crapbox, lol...mine has 86k miles on it and all I've had to do is change the oil and get new tires. My two buddies that have BMWs...have spent thousands in maintenance. I may not look sexy, lol, but I'll keep my crap box.
I have a nikon D4 and canon eos R but my heart goes for nikon D4 its a work horse
I'm new at photography. I'm trying to photograph lacrosse sticks, which are 30" long. I'm using a Nikkor 18-55 kit lens. The lens bends the sticks. What kind of lens do I need to stop this bending?
What would you choose between d4 & d750 for wildlife ?
Hi Ken, what about best value camera for low light events, at night, avoiding the use of Flash????
What about D750? Is it any good? Thank you
Would buy a new Scion (Toyota) over a money pit BMW
"fast as hell Z4"....
Only problem is there is no such thing as a new scion
my one and only body is a d4s, never letting it go!
I have a Nikon D800 and Nikon D750 I start think in upgrade my gear. Im a landscape, architecture and gastronomy photographer but I love shooting waves as well, in your opinion what is the best upgrade I can make at this moment? I love your channel, thank you about the content you create ;)
Hi Ken, I bought a D800 with 50K clicks for $600, thanks for your advice
An interesting review. I am content with my Nikon D610. But it is good to hear the opinions and reviews about other Nikon cameras.
D610 is great, I own one, but it was marketed as a consumer camera so Ken will never recommend it
@@arrangearrange That is interesting. I was wondering why he doesn't talk about it.
i rented that camera for a wedding gig. it’s great in daylight but horrible in low lighting. I have the d750 and it’s amazing in low lighting and has a great dynamic range
I’ve had a D600 since it came out, and still use it for real estate and portraits. In my experience the sensor is excellent, but the files always need work in post, unlike the D700 or D850, which look great straight away.
@@djtoman6875 It is good to hear your comparison of those cameras.
D4 is my bread and butter shooter. I prefer my D4s (The autofocus is way better) but it has been in the repair shop for too long.
Is the D750 not worth considering at around the same price of $1100?
Nikon d700??
I have the D4, love it. Also have a dirty secret, I have a DF.
Nikon DF creates beautiful images
@@gateway833 AMEN!
Oh shinizzle!!! I want a DF so bad!! Can’t find any used locally!
@@00ninja00 About 30 available on eBay, good luck.
I love the hell out of my Df. Getting a used D4 tomorrow!
I love your reviews. I just can't enjoy my D500 over my d4 for sports. I just bought another D4 and I'm about to sell off my D500. Images just look flat. The outputs of the D4, dependability, and battery-life....all WONDERFUL! I have less than $2k invested in 2 D4's. LOVE THEM! I use them for photojournalism and sports, and I use my D800E for portraiture. I have a Tamron 70-200 A001 laying around I don't use, so I am thinking about selling my d500 and this lens to pick up a low shutter count D750 to add to the arsenal. Thoughts? Good stuff, Ken!
How much?