我偶像 She introduces to us language relativity, how language shapes people's minds in some way. This theory is very intriguing to me because the Si-Fi "Arrival" also talks about it and extend it. The main character can see the future after she learned the Alien's language. It is fascinating. So after I saw her another speech at TED Talks and other speeches in a university, I was inspired by her speech about this magic of languages
See Language, Thought, and Reality by Benjamin Lee Whorf , published in 1956. There are cultures in which time and distance are the same concept. If it happened long ago, or far away, it is the same. (Space-time would be easier to grasp in such a culture.)
Not sure if this is irrelevant, but few years back, I went hiking with my ex. We walked for a couple of hours and then she started to panic because she believed we had walked too far, but the whole time, I instinctively knew roughly which direction to go to return to my car. I think this is a skill that I gained by not ever having to rely on GPS to get to places and also probably because of video games where you had to memorize routes to navigate the map. Games like SoulsBorne.
Yeah, I think that's related. People usually communicate in more modern languages (like English) without focusing on spatial direction. When you were playing a game especially with rotating maps, the game and you both communicated in another form of communication that wasn't English. Maybe because you've played it a lot or for whatever other reason, that way of thinking (SoulsBorne way) stuck with you.
Here’s a scenario: you live in a culture where you only understand directions by the cardinal points. You order something that has to be assembled by following the directions. How can the directions be successfully communicated since your body could be in any orientation at the time you read it?
The people who speak languages where body direction is perceived in relation to cardinal directions are really good at knowing what cardinal direction is where, even inside of buildings. See the Kuuk Thayorre for example. They just speak the language for a long time and use it.
Imagine how confused they would be by baseball and terms like "south paw." The could easily figure out that "south paw is south handed, but imagine if they know the players left hand was on the north side of his body.
I’ve noticed that North American First Nations people have a poor sense of timeliness. Being “on time” or scheduling activities to start and finish promptly within a timeline can be extremely problematic. I wonder if this is due to a different cultural perception of time passing, traditionally less based on clock time perhaps.
I'm thinking it's because for many non-modern societies landscape was more of a reality than it is for us and very important (being lost from people who have no cellphones, addresses and vehicles could be a question of life and death and even for modern people who get lost from hiking because cellphones, addresses and vehicles don't exist or are useless). Instead, for modern societies like us, the importance of time has replaced the importance of landscape to be able to get our jobs done, satisfy our bosses/clients in order to eke a living. So I guess it's not that different between us and them. We just focus on time, while they focus on landscape (space) because those are what's important for our survival in our respective societies.
@@senantiasa That’s a really interesting perspective. You’ve reminded me I have a paper about the perception of landscape and “wilderness.” Native Americans worked within and along with the cycles of nature, the regular changes that were adapted to for survival. A concept of time that is circular and responsive. To early Europeans the New World was a development project, implying a linear series of deadlines, requiring accurate calendars and clocks.
Present is an interval of a line where the past is expressed in negative value that equals the future positive value, an aparent contradiction, that can only be mathematically expressed as the incongurence of -1=1 meaning that it is imaginary in mathmatical terms so that when expressed in terms of a pythagorean relation, future and past become real, but present remains squeezed in between past and future, completely imaginary.
@@samik83 That "now" can be in plenty of variations.Which now do we live today is a question if everything happens in the now as there are plenty times.Who rules the time is a next question and how can we manage or goals without ruling time?
@@DzsM-rz7gu I challenge you to think of something that didn't happen in the now. Anything that has happened or will ever happen will happen in the now.
Notice how she gives no clear specific examples. She is a very nonsensical person who has been ridiculed by other cultures for over complicating and misunderstanding the very simple methods they use. This vid is a poignant example of how much she misunderstood.
Sorry, I don't believe it. Could be just biased on wanting to hear what they want to hear and unfortunately due to the whole feminism and affirmative action stuff happening in those last years I don't believe women anthropologists or women in "soft sciences" anymore. I don't have that problem with women in physics, chemistry etc (STEM) because in STEM affirmative action people don't reach the top. At least they cannot just yet. Because STEM is largely still based on achievements and not on whether you are a woman or black or disabled.
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She introduces to us language relativity, how language shapes people's minds in some way.
This theory is very intriguing to me because the Si-Fi "Arrival" also talks about it and extend it. The main character can see the future after she learned the Alien's language. It is fascinating.
So after I saw her another speech at TED Talks and other speeches in a university, I was inspired by her speech about this magic of languages
agreed. It's fascinating how much language influences the range of possibilities.
Just because it is a theory in SciFi does not mean it is real. SciFi is super awesome, but don't get biased towards an idea just because of it
See Language, Thought, and Reality by Benjamin Lee Whorf , published in 1956. There are cultures in which time and distance are the same concept. If it happened long ago, or far away, it is the same. (Space-time would be easier to grasp in such a culture.)
Not sure if this is irrelevant, but few years back, I went hiking with my ex. We walked for a couple of hours and then she started to panic because she believed we had walked too far, but the whole time, I instinctively knew roughly which direction to go to return to my car. I think this is a skill that I gained by not ever having to rely on GPS to get to places and also probably because of video games where you had to memorize routes to navigate the map. Games like SoulsBorne.
Yeah, I think that's related. People usually communicate in more modern languages (like English) without focusing on spatial direction. When you were playing a game especially with rotating maps, the game and you both communicated in another form of communication that wasn't English. Maybe because you've played it a lot or for whatever other reason, that way of thinking (SoulsBorne way) stuck with you.
This is really interesting and she delivers it brilliantly
ABsolutely inspiring and interesting, different ways of understanding time...
Can you please spell out the names of the different Tribes she mentioned as I would like to read further on them
Here’s a scenario: you live in a culture where you only understand directions by the cardinal points. You order something that has to be assembled by following the directions. How can the directions be successfully communicated since your body could be in any orientation at the time you read it?
The people who speak languages where body direction is perceived in relation to cardinal directions are really good at knowing what cardinal direction is where, even inside of buildings. See the Kuuk Thayorre for example. They just speak the language for a long time and use it.
So you're telling me that if I go to the past and then back I can say: "I'm going back to the future!"
Imagine how confused they would be by baseball and terms like "south paw."
The could easily figure out that "south paw is south handed, but imagine if they know the players left hand was on the north side of his body.
EXTREMELY INTERESTING, MS. LERA BODORITSKY.
i wanna bring one of these people to a house with wavy walls and circular passages just to see how they would react
Interesting. Being outdoors and learning to navigate with a compass and using the sun for time was kinda normal.
I’ve noticed that North American First Nations people have a poor sense of timeliness. Being “on time” or scheduling activities to start and finish promptly within a timeline can be extremely problematic. I wonder if this is due to a different cultural perception of time passing, traditionally less based on clock time perhaps.
I'm thinking it's because for many non-modern societies landscape was more of a reality than it is for us and very important (being lost from people who have no cellphones, addresses and vehicles could be a question of life and death and even for modern people who get lost from hiking because cellphones, addresses and vehicles don't exist or are useless).
Instead, for modern societies like us, the importance of time has replaced the importance of landscape to be able to get our jobs done, satisfy our bosses/clients in order to eke a living.
So I guess it's not that different between us and them. We just focus on time, while they focus on landscape (space) because those are what's important for our survival in our respective societies.
@@senantiasa That’s a really interesting perspective. You’ve reminded me I have a paper about the perception of landscape and “wilderness.” Native Americans worked within and along with the cycles of nature, the regular changes that were adapted to for survival. A concept of time that is circular and responsive. To early Europeans the New World was a development project, implying a linear series of deadlines, requiring accurate calendars and clocks.
@@kipling1957 Yeah, that sounds right...
Present is an interval of a line where the past is expressed in negative value that equals the future positive value, an aparent contradiction, that can only be mathematically expressed as the incongurence of -1=1 meaning that it is imaginary in mathmatical terms so that when expressed in terms of a pythagorean relation, future and past become real, but present remains squeezed in between past and future, completely imaginary.
A present is what you get for Christmas. Like a free spelling lesson.
Past and future only exist in your mind. Everything that happens, happens now.
@@samik83
That "now" can be in plenty of variations.Which now do we live today is a question if everything happens in the now as there are plenty times.Who rules the time is a next question and how can we manage or goals without ruling time?
@@DzsM-rz7gu I challenge you to think of something that didn't happen in the now. Anything that has happened or will ever happen will happen in the now.
Brian greene is really a great theortical physicist.
Is that a put down ;)
THAT WAS TO SHORT
Absolutely fascinating
I live in California where the money comes from the east and goes down he rabbit hole in the west.
What's her name?
What are those things on her fingers?
probably compasses
sexual Devices
rings
I think nothing, just time passing by
Time allows Thought.
Brian Greene's time is passing rapidly.
Could this have helped in fight 🔥 fire calamity which happened in Australia?
yes, a better understatement of navigation means a better response to an emergency.
WAY TOO SHORT
Damn
Those legs are shiny as glass
yo ali focus on the science
you're a simp. over validating them, contributing to any toxicity they generate. smdh.
south west shoe wait r u srs xd
About time? About space rather!
This is just one part of the panel discussion "The Richness of time" on Friday - info in the credits.
Notice how she gives no clear specific examples. She is a very nonsensical person who has been ridiculed by other cultures for over complicating and misunderstanding the very simple methods they use. This vid is a poignant example of how much she misunderstood.
Thank you.
Mac Kinnon how?
she does give examples though
Examples are given. Perhaps having a go at theoretical physicists would be fairer at present.
I see not even the slightest hint of "ridicule". And she does give examples. You seem to be projecting.
Sorry, I don't believe it. Could be just biased on wanting to hear what they want to hear and unfortunately due to the whole feminism and affirmative action stuff happening in those last years I don't believe women anthropologists or women in "soft sciences" anymore. I don't have that problem with women in physics, chemistry etc (STEM) because in STEM affirmative action people don't reach the top. At least they cannot just yet. Because STEM is largely still based on achievements and not on whether you are a woman or black or disabled.
No problem for me. What else?
Bigoted
She's bomb.
First
noup...
Handrias Oh man
first to still admit he acts like he's six years old. This is a science channel. Hand the keyboard back to mommy and take your nap.
Think Floyd Sorry sir please don’t attack me.
Really... 🧐you really want a medieval perspective🤣 here you go...