What Happened to the Crew of DS9?

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  • The futures of the crew of DS9 are unwritten in the canon, but looking at the books and other various media can provide a possible fate for some of our favourite characters.
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  • @CertifiablyIngame
    @CertifiablyIngame  2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Star Trek Online Lore Blog Link:
    www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10883384-%22the-past-and-present%22

    • @wolfiexii
      @wolfiexii 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Meh skipped Quark =(

    • @au9parsec
      @au9parsec 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The USS EggNog.

    • @keithtorgersen9664
      @keithtorgersen9664 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Certifiably Ingame, who is supposed to be the woman in the white dress? She has a beautiful picture.

    • @Kelvryn
      @Kelvryn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      not sure ive ever heard of the destiny timeline.

  • @jameswarren7999
    @jameswarren7999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +633

    Nog beating the Kobayashi Maru by negotiating until the system crashed should've been in this. Inexcusable.

    • @RandomAmerican3000
      @RandomAmerican3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      How could he negotiate when all communication gets jammed?

    • @dickmarx1298
      @dickmarx1298 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@RandomAmerican3000
      Ferengi privilege
      Lol

    • @thetenthplanet_
      @thetenthplanet_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Please tell me this is true

    • @RandomAmerican3000
      @RandomAmerican3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      @@thetenthplanet_ Secondary canon, appears in the short story Best Tools Available, in "Strange New Worlds VI".

    • @jameswarren7999
      @jameswarren7999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@thetenthplanet_ It was in one of the books. Would probably make a great short though.

  • @Bill23799
    @Bill23799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +501

    Morn had his genetic code altered to make him appear human. He then used the slingshot effect to go
    back into Earth's past. He was last seen on Earth lounging on a stool at a local bar in Boston called " CHEERS ".
    Oh and he changed his name to Norm so no one from the future could find him.

    • @ShannaNL
      @ShannaNL 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Okay, that made me laugh. Good one.

    • @christopherthomson2104
      @christopherthomson2104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Genius I love it

    • @lordgigglesnort3845
      @lordgigglesnort3845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Morn neede a break, he's a great guy

    • @nowinter7355
      @nowinter7355 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      easily the top comment.

    • @Bill23799
      @Bill23799 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nowinter7355 Thank you.

  • @6xCamox9
    @6xCamox9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    "O'Brian to Sisko"
    "Go Ahead"
    "Permission to leave the station?"
    "For what reason?"
    "To give the Dominion back their bomb"
    "....Permission granted..."

    • @Culdcepter
      @Culdcepter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was thinking of something along these lines, glad someone figured it out for me.

    • @arthurchadwell9267
      @arthurchadwell9267 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      O'Brien was Star Fleet's Master Chief...

  • @agrippa.the.cosmonaut-wiz
    @agrippa.the.cosmonaut-wiz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +440

    I feel like Sisko returning after only 8-9 months kinda diminishes his sacrifice. I thought he'd be gone for at least 5-10 years.
    Also, it sure brings a tear to my eye hearing Nog archived great things and lived up to his destiny as a great man and great Ferengi.

    • @veggiet2009
      @veggiet2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I had a somewhat different idea for Sisko as well, I didn't imagine him being gone too long, but I imagined him showing up in a different place at a different time, and with some other role to play. Like 2 months later here's this human ambassador for the prophets working on board a star ship in the delta quadrant

    • @agrippa.the.cosmonaut-wiz
      @agrippa.the.cosmonaut-wiz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@veggiet2009 Ha, that's pretty close to my idea for Ben Solo after Rise of Skywalker.

    • @dungeonmasteromega
      @dungeonmasteromega 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Well, from his perspective, he might have been cleaning up messes for hundreds of years, since the Prophets live in a space similar to the Q Continuum.

    • @agrippa.the.cosmonaut-wiz
      @agrippa.the.cosmonaut-wiz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@dungeonmasteromega Still, he didn't really miss out on his life, it was basically just put on hold.

    • @dungeonmasteromega
      @dungeonmasteromega 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@agrippa.the.cosmonaut-wiz If somebody took you away from all your loved ones, would you not miss them? Every single moment can feel like it's much, much longer when separated from someone you love.

  • @BigMackWitSauce
    @BigMackWitSauce 2 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    I think I remember an interview from Avery Brooks being against the ending of DS9 for the purpose of he thought it was important to portray Sisko as a very involved father and didn't like the idea of him going to live with wormhole aliens for a potentially long time. So Brooks would probably pick the he returned for the birth of his child ending

    • @ErickSoares3
      @ErickSoares3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      And I remember that he said that he became "ok" with the finale when they let implicit that Sisko would return and woudn't leave his family alone forever.

    • @Joesolo13
      @Joesolo13 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ErickSoares3 Yea some complain about him returning after only a few months but I can't imagine he'd want to miss the birth of his second child for anything.
      Jake's pretty much grown by then, being away for a few months isn't so much an issue, but Ben wouldn't want to be away from him long either

    • @CrossKnights
      @CrossKnights ปีที่แล้ว +12

      "The Sisko is of Bajor but will find no rest there". Sisko was supposed to pay a price for not listening to the prophets and having them intervene with the large Fleet of ships. I always got the impression it wouldn't be his choice to just come back whenever he wanted to.

    • @stuartjohnson5686
      @stuartjohnson5686 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did they forget that in one episode he gets stuck in some strange time loop thing and growing up without him makes Jake crazy. He is obbsssesd with rescuing his father, stops writting, allienats the woman who loved him and ends up commiting suicide because he decides he's the one holding his father in the time loop. So having him disappear again for any extended time will be bad for Jake, again.

    • @sertorrhenclegane
      @sertorrhenclegane 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@stuartjohnson5686Just because it happened in that one episode doesn't mean it will happen after the finale. The Jake from that episode (as well as that timeline) do not exist anymore. Jake didn't lose his father to some mad, spontaneous anomaly, he lost him to fate. In truth, he doesn't really lose him at all. Add on to the fact that Jake is now a grown man as opposed to a teenager, he'll probably have a better understanding of his father's destiny. He may not like it, but he'll probably understand it.

  • @daviddesrosiers1946
    @daviddesrosiers1946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    Nog's story arc in and out of canon are one of my favorites. Quite the evolution from the petty thief, running nefarious errands for Uncle Quark.

    • @kristiannoel4866
      @kristiannoel4866 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Aron Eisenberg's portrayal of him was brilliant as well.

    • @daviddesrosiers1946
      @daviddesrosiers1946 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@kristiannoel4866 Yes indeed. Very sad, his passing.

    • @jacobbecket1412
      @jacobbecket1412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@daviddesrosiers1946 Very much so. Aron was a childhood friend of mine. Always a bright light despite lifelong illness.

    • @menisme
      @menisme 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it makes me well up in tears that they named a ship after him. when i found out i was so ecstatic about it. still am.

    • @wyqtor
      @wyqtor ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@daviddesrosiers1946 And Odo (Rene Auberjonois) too. May he find peace in the Great Cosmic Link.

  • @DrankenDune
    @DrankenDune 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Part 2 is a must.

  • @BammerD
    @BammerD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    "I almost forgot about Morn. Well he..." 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Qardo
      @Qardo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Hold up. Morn did what to the Borg Queen!? *looks around* Is that even legal?

    • @elcowabungahe-man6156
      @elcowabungahe-man6156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      He became a profesional singer

    • @digipunk618
      @digipunk618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He dropped the Morn hammer.

    • @RandomGuy33369
      @RandomGuy33369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Can't get a word in around that guy

    • @jenniferbaldini3527
      @jenniferbaldini3527 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ...went on a highly successful speaking tour, telling stories of what it was like to be on the station during the years of 'Sisko's command'. His ability to imitate voices was said to be *LEGENDARY.* 😉

  • @DrownedInExile
    @DrownedInExile 2 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    Need to hear about Garak's future. Considering the far future Federation has a half-Cardassian President, the Cardassian Union obviously went through a lot of changes after the Dominion War. Garak would have been at the forefront.

    • @laurarules3642
      @laurarules3642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      I'm probably in the minority here but I think Garak was one of Star Treks greatest characters. I can't think of any that had as many layers as him. When you think about he was a cold blooded killer and he was casually having breakfast and lunch with Doctors and engineers . Then again I wonder if anybody has ever done a kill count for star fleet officers I bet O' Brian, Kirk, Sisko and Work have killed dozens of people

    • @clarkmcinnis6152
      @clarkmcinnis6152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ST: Online Used him several times as a diplomatic liaison for missions. I forget his 'ranking' so to speak, but it alluded to him being something like a Senator or other Gov't Official and a prominent member of the Cardassian Government

    • @chrissegee
      @chrissegee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      There is a novel that talks about what happened to Garak ( spoiler he becomes the leader of free Cardassia)

    • @Justaoldspacemarine
      @Justaoldspacemarine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@clarkmcinnis6152 he is a councilor and I’m pretty sure but might be wrong but he’s the leader of the union

    • @hansakkerman2611
      @hansakkerman2611 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@laurarules3642 Garak's my favourite too. There's the excellent "A Stitch in Time" written by his actor Andrew Robinson, who has a unique perspective on the character. Set right after the last episode of DS9, it delves into Garak's past and present, as he comes to terms with his upbringing, subsequent career in the Obsidian Order and how living on DS9 has changed him. All the while a devastated Cardassia must decide how to go forward and fundamentally change as a nation and people.
      Highly recommended!

  • @seannemo8076
    @seannemo8076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    I’ve never liked the idea of Ezri becoming a Captain. I think that she would be better remaining as a Counselor. Not because I have anything against the character; I _like_ Ezri. My problem is that people seem to equate being a Captain with the greatest possible achievement. What little we see of Ezri shows her to be an outstanding Counselor. I have no doubt that she could easily achieve a position as Chief Counselor at any command, and possibly a position at Starfleet Headquarters running the entire Mental Health Division. But then I think the idea that there is only one counselor aboard any vessel or station is ridiculous. Counseling (or Mental Health) should be a section within the Medical Department, answering to the Chief Medical Officer and with the ability to go directly to the CO in certain situations. Their _direct_ counseling responsibilities should be only for the Command Staff (Including the Captain) and possibly special cases that subordinate counselors can’t handle (like, say, Lt Barkley).
    I think part of the point I’m trying to make is that having Ezri transfer to the Command Division minimizes the importance of what she does as a Counselor. Keeping her as a Counselor would not only develop the character in a more realistic direction, but it could also be used to develop the canonical structure of Starfleet Medical’s organization.

    • @christopherthomson2104
      @christopherthomson2104 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Wow you have throughly thought that out. I’m Impressed

    • @essaboselin5252
      @essaboselin5252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Totally agree with this. It's one of the many problems with the books. The writers have fallen into a cliche that only captains have a successful career, and it's the end goal of all Star Fleet personnel.

    • @DoloresJNurss
      @DoloresJNurss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yes. I can also see Alexander Roshenko mustering out of military service among the Klingons after the Dominion war (since war is obviously not his forte) to join Starfleet as their first Klingon counselor. I always rankled at the allegation that Data was unfit to hold a command position just as Klingons were unfit to be counselors. Alexander would be great at it! Granted, I can see him pioneering a distinctively Klingon-flavored therapy involving holodeck battles with one's inner demons (until the patient can get to the point of negotiating with them) that would be one for the books!

    • @oldtwinsna8347
      @oldtwinsna8347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Also nothing wrong with just being a technical specialist - a counselor in this case. Not being a chief, supervisory, or other figure, just being a regular specialist who makes an impact and enjoys what they do. I know that episode in TNG where Picard tells Q how he's a dreary old man when Q changed the timeline, forcing Picard to rise up exclusively as a blue shirt scientist, but not everybody is cut out for a leadership position in charge of so many lives. Not many want it. Huge perks NOT being in charge of other people.

    • @seannemo8076
      @seannemo8076 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@oldtwinsna8347 Exactly. Imagine an Engineering crewman who just loves crawling through the ducts to troubleshoot a problem, and can diagnose an issue by ear…
      Crewman: _Cocks his head to the side_ “Sir, I think a manifold is out of alignment…”
      Lt: “I doubt it; we just installed them last week”
      _Chief checks the display_
      Chief: “No, sir he’s right. Manifold B is off by about 5.2 microns.”
      Crewman: _sighs_ “Yard dogs probably didn’t clean the packing grease out of the intake valves again” _stands up and looks to the Lt_ “Should take me about 20 minutes to fix, sir.”
      Chief: “Take T’Von and Katchin with you. Be a good lesson for them.”
      Crewman: “Aye, Chief” _Leaves_
      Lt: “How?!”
      Chief: “He’s been doing this longer than _I_ have, sir. I’ve learned to trust his ear.”

  • @MikeTsBees
    @MikeTsBees 2 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    You got cut off there at the end I'll take it from here. Morn gets caught in a trading deal that goes sideways. Luckily he manages to talk his way out it. But ends up stuck on the Breen home world. Through clever negotiations and quick-witted speech he ends up next to the Breen high Queen. She falls madly in love with him. But it's a hard fault love mainly because she lives in a completely different environment than him. And the story continues.

    • @singletona082
      @singletona082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Lets be fair. If we were to start going into Morn's exploits? We'd be here all day.

    • @dreamphoenix000
      @dreamphoenix000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Bah. That Morn. He just can’t keep his mouth shut.

    • @rumrunner8019
      @rumrunner8019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I would have loved for more to have said just one word on the show. I would have been great if in the last episode he drinks something and, in a voice over by Barry White, says "yeah."

    • @msgsgt
      @msgsgt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I got to admit, that was a pretty engaging episode you just recapped about what happen to Morn.

    • @buckrodgers1162
      @buckrodgers1162 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh come on! We all know Morn is still sitting at Quarks, doing nothing, saying nothing, and moving nothing. Just like he always is.

  • @DoloresJNurss
    @DoloresJNurss 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I always pictured Kira having to face the same awkwardness that Cisco did when he was declared the Emissary, because those who worshiped changelings would see her as The Beloved--a madonna-like mortal whose romance with an alienated part of the Founders enabled them, with Odo's reunion, to truly love solids. They were see her as an intercessor and supplicate her for prayers on their behalf.

    • @saphirebandit93
      @saphirebandit93 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That is honestly perfect, will be taking this for my own head cannon.

  • @ash12181987
    @ash12181987 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Master Chief Petty Officer Obrien is all I needed to get through my day. Thank you.

  • @chrislouden6702
    @chrislouden6702 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    My brother worked on this show regularly and I got to attend the last filming and tour much of the set! I got to keep some items too and meet Louise Fletcher

    • @mikey2363
      @mikey2363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Was the set as impressive at it appeared on screen? For me DS9 is one of the greatest sets ever built.

    • @williamkopko5775
      @williamkopko5775 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My friend Michael setterfield also help on the show too that would be great to see the cast

  • @Waterboyofsuperman
    @Waterboyofsuperman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Shout out to the excellent film, “What We Left Behind,” where several of the big writers get together and put together the start of a prospective eighth season 20 or so years after DS9. They come up with a very clever premise. Would love to see it realized somehow, someway.

  • @shinyagumon7015
    @shinyagumon7015 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I like that Miles ends up helping the Cardasians recover, a nice end to his ongoing inner conflict regarding the Cardasians war.

  • @wendelfears1027
    @wendelfears1027 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Quark went on to opening casinos all across the outback quadrant.
    In the first episode of picard. You'll see a scene where it shows on Earth casinos and in the limelight you'll see the name QUARK'S

  • @Marconius6
    @Marconius6 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Picard with Worf as his Number One, now that's a movie I want to see...

  • @kbtken
    @kbtken 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Being the first of his species to join Star Fleet then becoming a Captain is reason enough for Nog to have a ship named after him

    • @chrismc410
      @chrismc410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And being one of the very few to legitimately beat the Kobayashi Maru

  • @ODST_Parker
    @ODST_Parker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Interesting note: In Star Trek Online, Miles' son Kirayoshi O'Brien serves as the Chief Engineer of the Enterprise F under Captain Shon.

  • @reefterry1893
    @reefterry1893 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Wasn't the USS Nog added to Discovery as a tribute to Aron Eisenberg after his unexpected death in 2019. The Nog is said to be an Eisenberg class vessel.

    • @Blamcore
      @Blamcore 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh! I didn't know he died...

    • @CertifiablyIngame
      @CertifiablyIngame  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yes it was, :( But adding it as a reference also adds it to the canon, so there is a legacy for both!

    • @cfltheman
      @cfltheman ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also the USS Yelchin.

  • @Wyrmshadow
    @Wyrmshadow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    the actress that played Ezri went from cute to really beautiful over the last 20 years. Nana Visitor barely changed except for getting platinum white hair.

    • @snit22
      @snit22 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She was always beautiful.

  • @vortimerofkent128
    @vortimerofkent128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    He's not the Emissary, he's just a very naughty boy!

  • @weresmurf5731
    @weresmurf5731 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank you, as a life long DS9 diehard fan, these sort of informative videos are a pleasure to watch :) Thank you so much! :)

  • @lo-boy6956
    @lo-boy6956 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    This and Babylon 5 are the best science fiction series ever made that even now I still watch both on a regular basis... And always will.

    • @Jubilian3000
      @Jubilian3000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree! They are masterpieces of Sci-Fi!

    • @alext5497
      @alext5497 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Farscape is wine and these shows are beer

    • @scottbrassington2309
      @scottbrassington2309 ปีที่แล้ว

      Battlestar Galactica would like a word with you

  • @Peregrine57
    @Peregrine57 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    It makes sense that STO kept the original DS9, since, if we're following on from the shows, that's the one we'd want to see and inhabit in-game. But, it might be interesting to see some future STO story arc explore a crossover with the Destiny timeline, maybe even in collaboration with some of the authors if they're interested. Give us a chance to explore the new DS9 rebuilt to Starfleet spec and such.

    • @singletona082
      @singletona082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I just see Miles touring the 'new' station and. 'Who designed this? It's.... addressed literally EVERY complaint i have ever had and then some.'
      'you did sir.'

    • @necromycus
      @necromycus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      STO has an event where you basically have both prime DS9 and Mirror/Terran Terok Nor in the same space. It's fun. They could easily do a similar scenario with a rebuilt DS9... So many timelines.

    • @kwkcardinal
      @kwkcardinal 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Fuuuuuuck literally everything about the destiny timeline. Completely irredeemable.

  • @demetrinight5924
    @demetrinight5924 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I definitely hope Captain Sisco returned to his family. My favorite series of events that you mentioned is the one where he moved to Bajor.

    • @cybercifrado
      @cybercifrado 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The episode where Jake tried to pull his father out of the time-phase accident freaking wrecked me. Sisko had it rough with Jennifer, no doubt. He deserves some peace and happiness.

  • @benreed9952
    @benreed9952 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “Under the command of Captain Kurland here” 😂😂

  • @saintofselhurst
    @saintofselhurst 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    O'Brien as the Master Chief. Totally believe this

  • @3rdpig
    @3rdpig 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    My favorite characters from DS9 were Quark and Garak. I'm looking forward to the next video to find out what happened to them.

    • @viciousyeen6644
      @viciousyeen6644 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From what we see in Startrek:Lower Decks, Quark at least expanded his bar into a franchise

    • @oktopussy9628
      @oktopussy9628 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think they got married. There is a clip with the two actors are reading a scene, where Bashir is coming back home from a medical conference.

    • @cybercifrado
      @cybercifrado 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Likely enjoying a pint of root beer in one of Quark's holosuites.

    • @arthurchadwell9267
      @arthurchadwell9267 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quark, O'Brien and Garek...

    • @sixoffcenter80
      @sixoffcenter80 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quark finally become rich when he starts a briskness selling rootbeer to other Ferengi

  • @rumrunner8019
    @rumrunner8019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great video.
    My number one wish is that Warf finds himself a wife who *doesn't* meet an untimely death. That, and that Quark finally gets that moon he always wanted it.

    • @durhamdavesbg4948
      @durhamdavesbg4948 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Quark is said to own a moon in the STO timeline.

    • @pablohammerly448
      @pablohammerly448 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @rum runner: Worf* 🙄

    • @Robert-ht7om
      @Robert-ht7om 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In STO he does, the Klingon woman who at one time was married to Quark, they meet after he accepts the role of ambassador and marry, even having a son together later on.

    • @Nickelodeon81
      @Nickelodeon81 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Earth's Moon...

  • @radionoakmont7756
    @radionoakmont7756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    always great to see both timelines and knowing what happened to our fave characters and events as well thank you Certifiably ingame this rocks looking froward to part 2

  • @charlessmyth
    @charlessmyth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It was a good series. Last month -- before they disappear into the void of the streaming-media timeline -- I got the entire set of DVDs that include the dialogue of the audio tracks in English, German, Spanish and Italian. Odo sounds the business in German :-)

    • @recoil53
      @recoil53 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everybody does in German. I mean, it's not a great sounding language for romantic scenes or slick con men types.

  • @emedina403
    @emedina403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looking forward to part 2.... Well done!

  • @titanwilkins4044
    @titanwilkins4044 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve always loved DS9 I rewatch it so often

    • @francishunt562
      @francishunt562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me too, do you have a favourite episode? Mine are 'The visitor' and 'In the pale moonlight'.

    • @titanwilkins4044
      @titanwilkins4044 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@francishunt562 so many favorites

  • @FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker
    @FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    We need that second video! I’m just dying to find out what happened to Molly. I’m sure that’s at the top of all of our lists! 😂
    Seriously though, if Quark doesn’t at least own a whole star system in one of these timelines, I’m going to be seriously peeved.

    • @necromycus
      @necromycus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I mean he has a moon... Rom is Grand Negas with lita at his side in STO as well. Best outcomes IMO.

    • @necromycus
      @necromycus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh and he does get a really cool overpowered Marauder.

    • @jacara1981
      @jacara1981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He does get his own Bar on another planet (maybe a franchise) as seen in Season 1 of Picard.

    • @FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker
      @FriendlyNeighborhoodNitpicker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jacara1981 haven’t watched that yet. Don’t have that streaming service, and haven’t bothered trying to pirate it.

    • @RaulSmith
      @RaulSmith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I just want him to have that moon he was always groaning about. The moon is named Quark's, because of course it is. And it's the largest gambling establishment in the entire quadrant. Because it's a moon.

  • @toddcole1805
    @toddcole1805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Nog had the best character growth in Star Trek

    • @essaboselin5252
      @essaboselin5252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I think it says a lot about the show that even third-tier characters on DS9 had more growth than any of the top characters from the other shows.

    • @toddcole1805
      @toddcole1805 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@essaboselin5252 very true

  • @poppedweasel
    @poppedweasel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    We all saw what happened to Jake, he grew up to become Kurn.

  • @claytonberg721
    @claytonberg721 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the DS9 season 8 pitch in what we left behind deserved a shout out. That was something that came from what were some of the most influential writers to have ever worked on star trek. In my tiny brain that makes it canon, moreso than novels or video games. But what the hell do I know.

  • @exilestudios9546
    @exilestudios9546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It breaks my heart that we will never get a Runion show like Picard for the ds9 cast due to so many cast members having passed.

    • @trollerpilotxiv3079
      @trollerpilotxiv3079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Better it be left off on a high note than get botched like current shows

    • @exilestudios9546
      @exilestudios9546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@trollerpilotxiv3079 for what reason could you possibly think that the new shows have been "botched" and please note that that if you use the terms "Woke", "SJW", or "Mary Sue" your argument will not be taken seriously

    • @trollerpilotxiv3079
      @trollerpilotxiv3079 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@exilestudios9546 None of those. I just feel like they don't fit the tone of the original Star Treks. I feel like they're trying to go for the typical "darker and edgier" route that's worked for so many shows of the 2010s, and I feel like it just doesn't work the same way it did with DS9.

    • @exilestudios9546
      @exilestudios9546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@trollerpilotxiv3079 have your forgotten how dark DS9 was? that show had some shit in it that made modern trek seem tame by comparison. the only thing "dark" about modern trek is the lighting sure it plays arround with dark themes and ideas but it always leaves off with some sort of happy ending by the end of the season DS9 didn't do that when it went dark it didn't just handwave it away with a good feelings season finally where all the problems get resolved in the final 5 min it let us feel it in all of its fucked up glory.

    • @trollerpilotxiv3079
      @trollerpilotxiv3079 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@exilestudios9546 I mentioned that it doesn't work the way it did with DS9. I dunno, maybe that's just how I perceive it

  • @shmee123ful
    @shmee123ful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    it seems odd there is any thought given to the humble dress shop owner Garak but it is nice you and star trek has a love for this humble and completely un notable back ground character

    • @singletona082
      @singletona082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      His lungeons with Julian were nice bits of focus for the young still wet behind the ears overly optimistic doctor to get a bit of local perspective. Plus there is that story where he found himself as a gardener on Romulas.
      He is a man of many talents and he offers a surprising degree of situational insight.

    • @shmee123ful
      @shmee123ful 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@singletona082 indeed, it's a wonder how such a humble and unimportant person was able to go so many places and do so much and gain such live experience. Truly a showcase of how even the most unremarkable of us can live a full and rich life

  • @vitoaugello1677
    @vitoaugello1677 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always amazed how everyone turns out with amazing and exciting careers. No one dies or fails, goes to the dark side, retires. Nope just continues with amazing and exciting life. I wish real life was so stimulating. Lol.

    • @mikey2363
      @mikey2363 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let’s leave them be - just look at what the Nu Trek writers have done to 7 of 9!

    • @vitoaugello1677
      @vitoaugello1677 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haven’t checked that out yet. I’m sure jeri Ryan is still hot as hell. Can’t disappoint the trek nerds. Lol.

    • @lil18thletterking77
      @lil18thletterking77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You do have a point

  • @hawkstringfellow
    @hawkstringfellow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wanted sisko to have a happy ending with his family

  • @BradFoust1826
    @BradFoust1826 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I loved the Captain Kurland reference.

  • @ReaperSigma
    @ReaperSigma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Worf becoming Captain for the Enterprise feels very well earned to me.

  • @teufeldritch
    @teufeldritch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:05 "..Kurland, here." lol nice STO DS9 mission reference.

  • @honestly_present
    @honestly_present 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for all of your hard work on this, I would love to see a part two
    also thank you for covering the novels and not just the shows, I for one refuse to watch any of the shows, but enjoy the books very much!
    Also thank you for making it clear that the Destiny series is its own timeline, I fell behind on the novels and it got confusing, but that makes more sense knowing it's two separate time lines in the novels!

  • @agrippa.the.cosmonaut-wiz
    @agrippa.the.cosmonaut-wiz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I've been meaning to read the books, but I already got a shitload of titles on my reading list, plus I doubt Trek works that well in a non-visual medium.
    The costumes, places, and, most importantly, the perfomances are what make this show so charming and fantastic.

    • @Thurgosh_OG
      @Thurgosh_OG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Then you need to start with reading classic trek novels, then onto Next Gen, etc. in the order they came out as TV series. That way your imagination will have references to help it.

  • @MaskedGEEK
    @MaskedGEEK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What ever happened to Morn, just remember: Who Mourns for Morn? The guy would never stop talking. Would love to see his potential future examined in part 2.

  • @demonchild327
    @demonchild327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:10 Also in STO, O’Brian becomes the Chief Engineer of the U.S.S. Enterprise-F, under the command of Captain Va’Kel Shon.

  • @DarthFetid
    @DarthFetid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the in depth backstory you did on morn. I seriously didn't know that.

  • @Joe-wyo
    @Joe-wyo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    O brian becomes chief engineer of the enterprise F in the on the online series. Work makes mention of this on one of the mission. some of the online aspects, missions, and stories are being brought into the main star trek prime timeline thanks to star trek picard and lower decks. Season 2 of Picard is a great example of this thanks to them bringing in some ships from the online into the series. The online has also include discovery aspects as well. So wouldnt be surprised if the other books or other online stories are brought to be cemented in the prime line.

  • @alexandrorocca7142
    @alexandrorocca7142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really hoped for a series in the Gamma quadrant with Nog as Number one on a Federation starship.

  • @JoseMoreira-vo8cu
    @JoseMoreira-vo8cu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this, being that this is my FAVORITE of all the shows!

  • @nixravette
    @nixravette 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Under the command of Captain Kurland... here."
    I see what you did there.

  • @wmlau69
    @wmlau69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In the “Star Trek: Countdown”, Picard was the admiral in charge of the evacuation plan for the Romulans and during this time period, Worf was commanding a Klingon vessel.

  • @Mofock1986
    @Mofock1986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i love STO, not the best it could be, but ALL the lore you get and stories it's pretty fun for a Star Trek Fan tbh

  • @gregglesmigregglesmi3633
    @gregglesmigregglesmi3633 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    OMG! The Morn gag at the end!!!!!!!! POINTS!!!!!! Well played man!!!

  • @goldenknight578
    @goldenknight578 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for that ending because I had been wondering.

  • @CelticCubby
    @CelticCubby 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Kinda surprised you didn't include the "What we left behind" documentary version of characters fates since it was with much of the writing team from DS9.

  • @anno78
    @anno78 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    1) The novels were the "official continuations" of TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY, so are the true prime timeline (this includes spin-off novel series).
    2) STO has been revealed to be 100% an alternate timeline. The creators have stated this as fact, and a novel in says the same.
    3) CBS have created their own prime timeline (leaked during DISC season 1), and have made many continuity changes (history, ship designs, TOS uniforms before TOS, tech, etc).
    Thanks to CBS's messing around with the franchise, the true prime timeline of the novels has now been destroyed in the Coda Trilogy. Years of storylines and character developments have been washed away (beloved characters killed off, ships destroyed), and an opportunity to reveal CBS's shows as an alternative timeline has been wasted.
    I weep for what is happening to a beloved franchise.😢😭

    • @DavidHHH99
      @DavidHHH99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Point three is false. It's a conspiracy theory created by extremists who hate all modern Trek. Don't spread extremist lies.

    • @shanenolan8252
      @shanenolan8252 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed

    • @ChairmanMo
      @ChairmanMo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree 100%

  • @brandonhill8283
    @brandonhill8283 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, I was just thinking about this today

  • @stephenparlin9361
    @stephenparlin9361 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome, ty!

  • @UCannotDefeatMyShmeat
    @UCannotDefeatMyShmeat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wonder how long it would take before humanity just straight up ran out of historical names to give things, and either have to make up new ones or start using ones from alien cultures

  • @nPcDrone
    @nPcDrone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    My most loved series. Space station setting was pure genius . It got me interested in Babylon 5.

    • @scotttild
      @scotttild 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You know paramount stole a lot of the themes for DS9 form JMS when he pitched B5 to them. Still kind of irks me JMS got screwed by paramount.

    • @nPcDrone
      @nPcDrone 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@scotttild I did read that, B5 wasn't on my scope till then

  • @ouroboris
    @ouroboris ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to part 2 :)

  • @thewhitepanther6052
    @thewhitepanther6052 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My favourite star trek series! Ds9 will always be the best!

  • @brianstiles1701
    @brianstiles1701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Even though he got the center seat of the Enterprise, the novel did Worf how he got it. Jean-Luc basically promoted him via text from Earth, no change of command ceremony or anything.

    • @singletona082
      @singletona082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In fairness I don't think Worf would have wanted all the pomp. Just getting his new orders, pin the new pip to his collar, and settle into the big chair.

    • @Rammstein0963.
      @Rammstein0963. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Andrew Just how Klingons like it, no unnecessary frills, just "get to work".

    • @lil18thletterking77
      @lil18thletterking77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rammstein0963. I'm sure it depends on the klingon in question klingons aren't all cookie cutter ya know

  • @jdsclassof09
    @jdsclassof09 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Garaks story in the books is, of course, the most interesting in my opinion.

  • @stephenwallace3203
    @stephenwallace3203 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this!

  • @Technodreamer
    @Technodreamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video!

  • @RaulSmith
    @RaulSmith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    But what almost any good DS9 fan wants to know is this:
    Did Quark ever get that moon he was always bemoaning about?

  • @Dathansmith91
    @Dathansmith91 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What about Jake Sisco and Garak?

  • @leemcgann6470
    @leemcgann6470 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Huge Treky here. DS9 is my 2nd or3rd favorite trek. Mainly due to all the Klingon involvement. Enterprise is my first

  • @bddorsey
    @bddorsey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice! It was so great to hear that Morn

  • @Freddie1980
    @Freddie1980 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Please do a part 2, what made DS9 so good was the diverse set of non federation characters

  • @Cdr2002
    @Cdr2002 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The fact that there is a Starfleet ship named after Jackie Robinson is amazing

  • @gavinkelman5468
    @gavinkelman5468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So many different versions of every character, I was reading about Dax on Wiki and they have the version of events in which Dax and Bashir break up, or that's the one I read anyway, very hard to keep track of all these different timelines/stories, good video for sure.

  • @dragonweyr44
    @dragonweyr44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What happened to Quark, Rom and Leeta? Brunt?

    • @danmurgy9125
      @danmurgy9125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In STO, Quark keeps running his bar but has set up the Lobi Consortiumm, which has made him rich enough to buy a moon and terraform it, once he can get the tech for it. Rom is still Grand Nagus, and has managed to introduce publically funded institutions to Ferengi society, along with signing a deal for exclusive construction rights for every new ship commissioned by the Cardassian Union, which silences a lot of his detractors who said he "lacked the lobes for business". He and Leeta are still married, with Leeta often providing advice and undertaking projects of her own, including planning one of the key missions of the H'urk invasion.
      Brunt dowsnt quite achieve success as he had hoped, and works with Quark and Rom on their plan to retrieve the Sword of Kahless for T'Ket. He tries to betray them but is himself betrayed by the captain he had hired, a Ferengi named Madrin, because Quark outbid Brunt.
      Bonus fact, Mirror Leta is a big deal and causes trouble for the players of STO, along with becoming a reluctant ally in the most recent storyline

  • @russell28533
    @russell28533 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nog was destined to do great things. He had to have the opportunity to chart his own path and not what was expected of him as a Ferengi. Don't try to be a great man. Just be a man, and let history make its own judgements.

  • @thedragonlee76
    @thedragonlee76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why DS9 was great,was because Sisco and Starfleet and the crew werent trying to discover new worlds,but dealing with the different alien fractions and trying to maintain peace and understanding.

  • @BluegrassGeek
    @BluegrassGeek 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am dying that you got a "Kurland here" worked into this! 🤣

  • @deathstrike
    @deathstrike 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I could have seen Worf head a new division of Starfleet. A non Section 31 unit. And while military in its scope, it often functions as a primary peacekeeping force, called when a starship is entering a potentially dangerous situation and requires a show of strength. However, it is also called upon to carry out special "missions" that are of interest to the Federation and it's allies.
    This division has an incredible heritage. It draws upon centuries of both Terran and Klingon Special Forces. It is a combination of Army Rangers/Seals/Green Beret/Delta Force and the Klingon Dahar masteries. They utilized very spartan, but VERY powerful and dangerous ships like the Enterprise E/G, the Defiant Advanced, and with recent upgrades to the venerable Bird of Prey and Vor'cha class battle cruisers, they have become Starfleet's most powerful force projection in its history. They are like the Targ and the Terran Lion. Stealthy and powerful predators.
    They are............The Shadow Legion. Starfleet Special Charter 42. The SSC is devoted to one purpose: "Speak softly, but carry a BIG stick". Wise words from former President Theodore Roosevelt of Old Earth. And with Captain Worf Roshenko of the House of Roshenko, House of Martok, Bane and slayer of the Duras Family, slayer of Gowron the Unwise and heir to the Chancellorship of the Klingon Empire, and Dahar Master commanding this unit, the Federation's enemies better behave, or be bested in the field of honor.

  • @ObsidianBlk
    @ObsidianBlk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm actually just finishing up the Star Trek: Coda trilogy which, as I understand it, is the official end of the book (Destiny) timeline, in order to make way for whatever gets cannonized in the new Trek shows. I've missed a lot of the Books, over the years. It wasn't until recently that I even realized they all share continuity (which is awesome, but daunting too).

    • @chrissonofpear1384
      @chrissonofpear1384 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, they started to share continuity after Insurrection came out, I think, with more and more books being tied together, beginning with a DS9 continuation (the Avatar duology, initially) and then TNG and Voyager getting full relaunches too, @ObsidianBlk . The first 'arc' culminated in the Destiny trilogy, teaming up several characters, and then into the Typhon Pact books, and The Fall series, plus various spinoffs. Cold Equations was another trilogy, plus the Section 31 books, and now it finally (sob) comes to a close.

  • @bobthecopywriter
    @bobthecopywriter 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What about a certain Plain & Simple Tailor?

  • @filanfyretracker
    @filanfyretracker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    surprised they never mentioned what Nog did to get a ship named after him, I know the IRL version was the actor died.

  • @MrAshleyR
    @MrAshleyR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kurland, here.
    Well done, well done indeed.

  • @danieltelgarsky4701
    @danieltelgarsky4701 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I would absolutely love to see a series about a starship commanded by captain Worf where we get to see how he has changed as a person and an officer. I think that would be a super interesting area of the Star Trek universe to explore, seeing him aged and evolved.

    • @DocWolph
      @DocWolph 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It feels like a "Captain Worf" series would be the "Velvet hammer" approach to Starfleet.

    • @danieltelgarsky4701
      @danieltelgarsky4701 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DocWolph agreed and I could completely get on board with that

    • @rumrunner8019
      @rumrunner8019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I would love to see Worf as Captain and Nog as Chief Engineer. Have Worf start off still having a deep dislike of Ferengi but he slowly changes after working with Nog. It would also be fun to somehow get him to the Delta Quadrant and have to work with Neelix. It would be the ultimate test of his patience.

    • @markfergerson2145
      @markfergerson2145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rumrunner8019 Remember Nog baking down Klingons when he took a turn at security on DS9? He'd make Worf respect him one way or another.

    • @spartacus36526
      @spartacus36526 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are you listening Paramount? We need a series about Captain Worf and the Enterprise-E. Star Trek: Captain Worf.

  • @clarkmcinnis6152
    @clarkmcinnis6152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    On Kira Nerys, you left off Opaka... On ST: Online, the story has Kai Kira receive direction from the Prophets that it was time that Kai Opaka returned to Baior.
    I forget the details, but with the help of Dr. Julian Bashir, Kira returns to the planet where they were forced to leave Opaka and cures the condition which kept her there.
    Capt. Kira stepped aside to allow Opaka to return to Bajor as Kai, feeling that returning Bajor's 'True Kai' had been Prophet's Path for her and why she came to power to begin with.

    • @Nerdnotwashere
      @Nerdnotwashere 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Now that is a Kai version of Kira I can get behind!!

  • @quinnlintott406
    @quinnlintott406 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see part 2!

  • @delwynandrews6514
    @delwynandrews6514 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @certifibale ingame with kira being in command of ds9 would be a full circle and great , as in the beginning it was a byjoran station with command being starfleet, that make it starfleet Station with a byjoran in command

  • @rdgk1se3019
    @rdgk1se3019 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The three books in the "CODA" series books basically invalidate every book in the Star Trek universe from the movie "Star Trek First Contact" forward in order to have the TV series "Picard" and "Discovery".

    • @hughsmith7504
      @hughsmith7504 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mean deleting the entire universe is a bit much, but it does tie everything up fairly nicely :)

    • @dr.garretsshow
      @dr.garretsshow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wait what is this book series?

    • @kyrusdrax2664
      @kyrusdrax2664 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hughsmith7504 because at that point there isn't anything left to tie up.

    • @kyrusdrax2664
      @kyrusdrax2664 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hughsmith7504 because at that point there isn't anything left to tie up.

    • @jjl207
      @jjl207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dr.garretsshow Star Trek CODA. The last of the three book series came out in November of last year. Essentially, it’s made clear that the book timeline didn’t happen, and in fact SHOULDN’T have happened. No refunds for all the books we bought though.

  • @Timberjac
    @Timberjac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    On the one hand I still do not see Kira as Kai, but on the other, it must be recognized that in the series, she is more favored with the contact of the prophets (coming to be used by one of them, in the episode in which they face the Pagh wraith), as well as going to the past with one of the orbs. No doubt Kay Winn would have killed just a little bit of that divine experience.

  • @captbumbler5356
    @captbumbler5356 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you for this I have often wonder what happened next

  • @Damian-ir8gn
    @Damian-ir8gn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job but I need part 2 like ASAP laugh out loud

  • @saintofselhurst
    @saintofselhurst 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    STO is clear with Worf.
    The Enterprise-E is destroyed by Species 8472 and Worf returns to Qo'nos once Martok was defeated for his Chancellorship

    • @seanwhitman8353
      @seanwhitman8353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He remains an Ambassador, but also becomes gin'tak to the House of Martok and marries Grilka and has a daughter Koren, who becomes captain of the I.K.S. Bortesqu

    • @ffnbbq
      @ffnbbq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@seanwhitman8353 Word is Michael Dorn was unhappy with STO's development of Worf. I suspect he (correctly) believes Worf would never turn against Starfleet.

    • @seanwhitman8353
      @seanwhitman8353 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ffnbbq He probably would have tried to prove if the Klingon Empire was right

  • @singletona082
    @singletona082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Given Star Trek from nearly the begining has had alternate universes and in TNG we see just... exactly what that means with Worf universe hopping (seriously that shot of all the enterprises is genuinely impressive) I'm fine with the books being their own timeline.
    Heck this isn't the first time that anscilliary media has been 'discanonized' from the prime timeline. See also the FASA tabletop games.
    So I mean.... Cool. We have our pick of the litter on events and portrayals.

    • @Timberwolf69
      @Timberwolf69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To be honest, this is way better than the "Legends" shenanigans in Star Wars...

  • @theblitz9
    @theblitz9 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In the novels, Ro Laren becomes DS9's commander. So, still have a Bajoran in charge

  • @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164
    @exposingproxystalkingorgan4164 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All the characters probably went on to do great things.