This Brother Gets It! As humanity we are evolving towards LOVE & TRUTH! Not subjective but Objective. Everyone’s spirit has been stirred by this brother speaking , some good and some bad.
@@SageTrader007 I disagree with you. We are as we are seeing things being exposed for what they are. Lies everywhere are being exposed, people wanting to be seen and connected. You may not see it thru your physical eyes but if you view it through your spiritual 👁️ you would. We are in the Age of Aquarius; id advise you to dig a little deeper.
Being passionate about you race is not hate, in fact, every other ethnicity does it, it’s called self preservation and needed for survival. With that said, Dr. Umar does not preach, and would say he has no problem anyone promoting their own, he just is not fighting for anybody else, again that is preach not hate, no more than Jewish people promotes their own first and foremost so does Asians.
Wrong. The problem with Dee is there's nothing you can speak of for black people in America without seeing it through the lense of oppression INCLUDING religion. Dee isn't willing to look at the history of his "God's word" as given to us and realize it was written via the lense of white supremacy. the fact that he's discussing not hating white people as if that's a tenant of pro blackness shows how out of touch he is on this topic.. It's as if the desire for blacks to be independent is equated to hating whites. But he's quoting a book written under Constantine edited at the Council of Nicea.
This brother is 1 of them 1's... salute to him for blazing a trail. Bruh know exactly what he sayn. it sound off to most folk... I'm sure... but thats cuz the world rather prefer a "lie" over the "truth." Salute Art of Dialogue. Salute Dee-1.
1 of wat 1s. He just said the white man created basketball.. how? No the started the nba Not basketball. He need to stop acting like he is umars peer. He’s not
@@champmon1572exactly. He just another brainwashed Christian hypocrite. Repeating white mans talking points. They always diss hip hop despite being rappers and bend over backwards to credit Eminem.
This whole argument coincides with the point Yasiin Bey recently made regarding hip hop. Yes em is lyrically one of the best. But its impossible for him to be the goat of hiphop consodering none of his music helps serve hiphops initially intent. He used it well to document his own personal story. Great. But none of it has helped advance the community in which the genre was born out of.
eminem is not lyrically one of the best. when he's not making satirical music he's average at best. any time the rap isn't based on "im a crazy psycopath" or "look how hyper/on drugs i am", he wouldnt make top 70 in my opinion. listen to songs where hes actually trying to be serious, none of them hit the same.
One thing is em isn’t even lyrically that nice he’s over hyped he raps fast and uses hella syllables which isn’t traditional hip hop but there’s a guy who’s influenced heavy by em tho he’s Joyner Lucas and he’s em on steroids and he’s black so I say this to say this music sport wasn’t based off who can rhymes the most or even teach music is expressive so it’s always subjective but this dude in this video is a weirdo and is wrong
You can tell this man got a different energy when comparing to others within the industry. Bro speaking from a common sense perspective, a truthful perspective & a Godly perspective.
Em is an ok rapper, but there is no rapper that puts it down like 2pac. After he passed away, there was no substance in music, so 2pac will forever be the goat. Some of his music can help a little kid survive in the hood girl or boy. You can't say that with nothing Eminem made 💯 🤷♂️
2pac was a wannabe gangsta who couldn’t lyrically compete with guys like big L and big pun. 2 pac grew up In arts school 💀 promoting a life that pac wasn’t in. How pac gon scream thug life when he was in arts school while other teens his age was really in street wars 😂😂😂
@@Kirkaloozenstein an wack rapper but truthfully no one in the Black community checks for this guy which means he is a hype which failed and they thought it would work so he can be crowned as the G.O.A.T when in theory the Black community picked 2pac years ago and it still stands and always will.
What he really meant was we the people of the culture decide who’s the best not some random no name journalist with an agenda or the friends of the person that’s being put on a pedestal. This isn’t rocket science.
Exactly. People are always trying to interfere with our culture and then dictate and elevate people who are not of our race in the attempt to undermine us
No Umar stated that if Hip Hop is a musical art created by black people then a white rapper can't be considered the greatest in a black art no matter how good he is.
@@iam9od92 I can’t stand black folks like you .. what has race got to do with talent? .. it’s not about Eminem per say .. based on his logic no other race can be considered a goat ..
@@alphadog3586 And that makes sense considering white society has a tendency to steal our creations and take credit for them over time. And the fact they've sought to erase us from every positive African discovery in history.
When was the last blk party, wedding, barbecue, or any event where you heard us playing Eminem music? When has any blk person got in the car and was like man turn that Eminem on? He is not the goat of hip-hop...period!
@@blackcherry6877 Go tell yo BBQs, black weddings, car ride friend groups about album sales & see if that compares to something that actually helps the artist
I was thinking the same thing I never heard of a black man say aye put some eminem on😂😂😂 only people that listen to him are white or native American😂😂😂
Dr Umar and the meaning of “pro blackness” often gets misunderstood. I don’t have a problem with religious people but their way of thinking has held our community back. All these churches preaching about god but there’s no change.
Cause they have to get out of the church and walk the streets or have a presence on social media condemning what is not right. Lot of The youth not going to church
It would be like me make mariachi music and the vast majority fans I have is Japanese , and all the japanese fans call me the goat because all the Japanese people bought my music and made it 1# on the japanese radio ,while only a few Mexicans actually listen to me as a whole.
@@JBeats111 a lot of nerdy blk people out there .. the ones in extreme poverty couldn't afford a 20$ eminem CD but suburban blk kids did .. i had a friend Nate he was from Chicago but moved to the suburbs and he loved eminem and Korn he was a music fan he would play Santana too .. if he had stayed in Chicago living in a bad area he would've listened to other low class music
He went apples and oranges on this one. He is comparing a business entity to a culture and life experiences of a group of people..Eminem will NEVER experience life as a Black Man or the creators of HipHop. Just because a white person is talented you dont have to inflate their talent level and lower our own.
You will jump through hoops to make it seem different. Just live with the fact that you guys can never be great at anything that another race created. That’s what you believe.
dr umar was asked a direct question about if eminem was a top rapper, and umar responded to it based on his worldview, he didnt bring up eminem ouut of the blue so it cant be for soundbites.
@BasedGawdNev Exactly. If you have a brain and are willing to work hard you will have a good life in america. Either do that or admit that you won't. It's time to stop blaming society and white people
What? Yes they would lol Chess originated in India & the best player in the world, a Norwegian guy named Magnus Carlsen is really popular world wide. Including India.
It’s not a sin for black people to want to marry within their race. How is that not of God? I like Dee 1 because he talks about the negative aspects of hip hop. He is 💯 on that for sure. Too many pookies and shanequas out here making the rest of the black community look bad. Our black community needs to return to God. But it is not wrong for me to want to build a black family and establish generational wealth. No one is going to tell me that’s wrong. And that’s not making race my idol. Every culture prefers to be with their own. It’s only us that marry outside our race. I only want a beautiful black woman and I am not ashamed of that.
@@1700Va This is why we can never overcome white people have no problem giving LeBron James and Michael Jordan credit but some blacks wont give Em his credit
Also no diss to the Bible but the issue is when you only suggest ONE book to fix every problem then you're leaving too many effective books on the table that can help. Dr Umar is looking at relationships the same way other races do and the reason they hardly marry outside of the race is because they put their extended family first over just themselves and other things come with that because they depending on the family to accomplish multiple things including business.
The Bible is a collection of letters and books, written by uniquely inspired by the Holy Spirit. The lessons and stories and metaphors and poetry and history written in ink is untouched by time. Those men who wrote claim that what they wrote came straight from the Lord thy God Himself with no filter or filler. Believe it or not is your choice. As for me and my house, we shall serve the Lord.
@@walterruth5901 The fact I can prove the bible was written by man and I can name specific people, council's and primary texts for this is why people thinking God wrote it will not hold up in serious debate with educated theologians.
@@Keanu1606 he really is … in another video he tries to discredit the impact of pac because he “glorified” certain things like discredit a talented 25 year old that spoke on the white power structure is hate masked under “I do Gods work”
He didn’t understand Dr. Umar, he meant HipHop culturally. HipHop was born out of oppression, if you’re not oppressed, even more-so, the same racce as the oppressors, your music doesn’t hold the same merit. It’s like a man being the best feminist, in the feminist movement… Although, technically, it could be possible as men have more power in society, ethically, it wouldn’t be as authentic as it’s a man having his way in a man’s world. Like, Eminem is technically the highest selling rapper, but he is ywhte in a majority ywhtte market. Like, a man advocating for womn & passing feminist laws would rank them as the most effective feminists… But they are a man, in a man’s world. For example, a man invented the tampon, but he could never express the pain & suffering of a woman’s menstrual cycle. It wouldn’t hold merit. Eminem can’t make a deeply cultural HipHop song about the struggle people of the culture face. “Though I'm not the first king of controversy I am the worst thing since Elvis Presley To do Blache music so selfishly And use it to get myself wealthy There's a concept that works” -Eminem (Without Me) “Look at these eyes, baby blue, baby just like yourself If they were brown, Shady lose, Shady sits on the shelf … Let's do the math, if I was blache, I would've sold half, I Ain't have to graduate from Lincoln High School to know that” -Eminem (Ywht America) Eminem acknowledging his own bias. He is touted as the goat because he is the most successful. But the irony is, he wasn’t ywht/euro, he wouldn’t be the most successful in HipHop. That’s why Em can’t be the goat, even though he is a goat(no doubt about that).. Culturally speaking tho? No. I Never Said I Wasn't a Guest in the House of Hip-Hop, I Absolutely Am - Eminem in an interview admitting he is a guest in HipHop.
....sad smh. He didn't SACRIFICE COMMON SENSE there's NUANCE in everything but we ALWAYS got an excuse. Salute to Dee- 1 AND Dr. Umar WAKE TF UP. Never said he hated nobody. We dont wanna be US "Pro 'BLACK'". simple as that.
Although i disagree with Umar because its all opinions but Dee 1 really needs to do his history homework on where James Naismith got the concept of basketball from
50 cent- Hip Hop is Black music, without question, and, unfortunately for some people, it's tough to accept that you have a White artist that does it better than Black artists
Naismith did not create basketball. Naismith admitted he saw black Boys of color who was shooting balls in crates. He basically stole that and made it a game.
The funny thing is they never actually say he invented basketball. They say he organized it and of course whites supremacists took this and ran with it. So whites ain’t the best at basketball cuz they didn’t create it. That should be obvious. But many people think white folks taught us everything
This is what I mean when I talk about God and following Jesus. We as a ppl boast up so many men and women bc of what they say or their positions or titles but none of them use God as an example of their points or progress in society. It’s just like they can see what others can’t or they know through all of their experience or research that this is definite. But we are all lost in this world of sin and putting God 1st in everything is how u see through the deceptions in the devils playground. It is incredibly hard to explain certain things even thou they are extremely important bc most cannot get the world out of their system enough to see or hear from God every step. The world has a big stage and it will take a big leap of faith to reset your own mind and soul. If it ain’t of God or written in the word of God no matter who says it or how they say it then how can it be of God when none of us are God or know the mind of God therefore we cannot say what God wants, needs or says. The Bible is nvr changing but so how all through history we love to boast up ppl in that sense bc of how they present themselves. Mind u I said themselves. God Bless
They are both different. Rap is integrated as well. You see most rappers are black skinned. But truthfully behind closed doors, the record labels, streaming platforms, radio stations, concert venues, commercial deals etc. are owned by white men. And even fans are integrated.
@anointedbytmhelohiym2333 We created Hip Hop which was integrated by White people seeing the profit and influence it could have and WE started selling out for the dollar to let them "Own it" being the faces in the offices so WRONG and slightly right at the same time
What you all need to do is text Dr. Umar, man to man, if you don't understand what he meant. Dr. Umar is a greater ally to you, and teacher of you, than almost anyone else out here. He will explain to you the significance of what he said, as his understanding is beyond yours. Decades of tedious research on OUR consciousness has led him to say what he has. You don't have the same insight.
Sports is a poor example for 2 reasons. 1) sports is based on countable achievements to determine the goats. 2) they will never let you own a sports team for a reason. So they keep there hierarchy anyway by ownership of these teams and players.
@@ceeIoc record sales don’t determine the best mc/rapper alone. If that’s the case vanilla ice is top 5. And Snow is the goat of reggae music. And the ny Knicks have the most ticket sales. Make that make sense. And who is an owner?
The point he is making is that Eminem shouldn't be disqualified because of his skin colour. I disqualify Eminem because 1. Record sales is not an indicator of his music adhering to Hip Hop culture. 2. Most of his songs are basically pop music with him rapping in it. A bit like Drake. 3. Hip Hop is black culture and we don't condone disrespecting your mother. This part of our culture is why 2Pac and Jay'Z automatically lost to Biggie and Nas. We don't condone playing with other men's wives or daughters. But to disqualify him just because he's white is ....🤷🏾♂️
umar should've gotten at em for the garbage music. you can't really be a GOAT when your discography is bad. Em's music has sucked for the most part for 20 years. After 2004 he never recovered.
I agree. I think "The Eminem Show" was his last good album plus some of his mixtape diss tracks. After that, for me, it was all downhill. I see that your name is The Cunninlynguist. Kno is my all-time favorite producer.
Eminem is not the GOAT because of his skin color. He's not the GOAT because there is only one lyrical M.C. who resigns supreme since 1985... his name is, Rakim and he "ain't no joke."
A scam,not even his real name 😂,u can't tell alota these dumb mfs 💩! And his own father said his @ss ain't even african 😂!!!! Bit he pushing it on the ignorant followers.
You dont know God then. Because God got a wrath like no other. The thing is, people believe in what Jesus taught, about turning the other cheek and loving your enemy. God never told us to do that, we are told to execute judgment. The lack of executing the judgments that follow the commandments is what got us where we are. If your child keeps disobeying you but you never discipline them or have someone discipline them for you, your child will continue to disobey you...but then there are those who say you shouldn't discipline your child in certain ways...but God said spare the rod spoil the child sooo...yeah lol God has sent MANY discipliners and executioners but we throw them to the wolves and never defend them for the RIGHTEOUS "evil" they carried out. Like putting a father in prison for killing the man that molested the father's child. Why is the father in prison and sympathy shown to the molester? Because we aint really been Pro-God.
Some would say black people like Little Richard and Chuck Berry created rock and roll. Elvis is considered the king of rock and roll. Some would even say black people created country music. George Strait is considered the king of country music.
U said a buncha nothing. Only reason the goat bs came up is because prejudice whites said he was the goat..not anywhere else on planet earth do people say that
Gotta dig deeper into the scriptures Brethren. The Most High (GOD) instructed the Israelites not to marry outside of their tribes. There are numerous examples of great men in the bible, who fell because they joined themselves/married women of other races (Solomon, Samson, etc). Also, if Eminem is the greatest MC, Justin Timberlake is the greatest hip hop/R&B dancer. We gotta be willing to call a spade a spade. Peace and blessings to all my Brothers and Sisters that are walking according to the scriptures. Shalom
Greetings, Scripture verse please! No where written says do not marry due to color. This ideology is the spirit of distraction. Please do not be deceived or preach deception. 1 John 4:20-21 20 If anyone says, “I love God,” but hates his brother, he is a liar; for whoever does not love a brother whom he has seen cannot love God* whom he has not seen. 21This is the commandment we have from him: whoever loves God must also love his brother.
No he didn't and I'm not going against Dee but no... Even Larry Bird told Michael Jordan he was Jesus in sneakers.... Whether we created it or not some things we are and were built and prepared for from remnants of Slavery, also created by the White Man so is there a G.O.A.T of slavery???? He's getting the clicks. Only thing Umar said wrong was the Vanessa/Kobe stuff because that's how you get canceled and not taken seriously 💯💯
Dee 1 is very confused 😕. If they are so great? Kobe lebron why are they not the emblem of the nba Jerry west is. Dee 1 has no clue on racism he’s babbling. Show me a person of god on planet earth I’ll show you a unicorn 😅
Religion has kept our people docile and afraid to take our position in this world. Praying to a God for something to happen for you does not work. Half of Black people think praying will fix our issues. The other half say "faith without works".
hip hop was birthed by foundational black Americans that used the art and expression created under impoverished circumstances to elevate,celebrate their plight. Why wouldn't it be necessary that the people that come from those same circumstances as the pioneers be the ones to anoint the goats? Or why shouldn't their opinionated voice be more important? After all this was created by us. I've lived in Europe, Africa, and USA and trust me no other hiphop artist holds more reverence internationally than Tupac Shakur. They're not bumping Em in Africa and Europe like that. Its not even close. So just because his music is more viable to white folks in America doesn't mean he had greater influence. Thats just socio economics. who is the buying demographic? not black folk. But saying that doesn't negate Eminems contribution or his skill set. Its just stating the obvious.
@@sunnybossynarks never said he wasn’t good..he was dope for the time being, which was 00-06. So I’m being realistic. U probably the racist if u callin him the Goat
Im not a big eminem fan, but if u use umars logic any person of any race who excelles in anything created by another even if that person is respected, should not be called a goat, jon joes in mma , williams in tennis etc.
That's a weak argument. Athletes are hired. The NBA is a corporation. Artist are individuals. Anyone can be a rapper. Not just anyone can be a NBA player. Don't know how you lookin' for respect when the aspects of your culture are so easy to invade.
This Brother Gets It! As humanity we are evolving towards LOVE & TRUTH! Not subjective but Objective. Everyone’s spirit has been stirred by this brother speaking , some good and some bad.
There's ZERO proof that humanity is evolving towards love and truth.
@@SageTrader007 I disagree with you. We are as we are seeing things being exposed for what they are. Lies everywhere are being exposed, people wanting to be seen and connected. You may not see it thru your physical eyes but if you view it through your spiritual 👁️ you would. We are in the Age of Aquarius; id advise you to dig a little deeper.
@@juiceis4life988 🥱 You're a delusional new ager.
People who ignore racism ignore reality
@@juiceis4life988 How does that serve to end the oppression of black people across the globe? What signs do you see indicating so?
This man is humble and wise
he gets it , you can be empowered but don't do it through hate
Exactly
Umar doesn’t preach hate
Being passionate about you race is not hate, in fact, every other ethnicity does it, it’s called self preservation and needed for survival. With that said, Dr. Umar does not preach, and would say he has no problem anyone promoting their own, he just is not fighting for anybody else, again that is preach not hate, no more than Jewish people promotes their own first and foremost so does Asians.
Wrong. The problem with Dee is there's nothing you can speak of for black people in America without seeing it through the lense of oppression INCLUDING religion. Dee isn't willing to look at the history of his "God's word" as given to us and realize it was written via the lense of white supremacy. the fact that he's discussing not hating white people as if that's a tenant of pro blackness shows how out of touch he is on this topic.. It's as if the desire for blacks to be independent is equated to hating whites. But he's quoting a book written under Constantine edited at the Council of Nicea.
@@Jirrell i know i was making an example
This brother is 1 of them 1's... salute to him for blazing a trail. Bruh know exactly what he sayn. it sound off to most folk... I'm sure... but thats cuz the world rather prefer a "lie" over the "truth." Salute Art of Dialogue. Salute Dee-1.
1 of wat 1s. He just said the white man created basketball.. how? No the started the nba Not basketball. He need to stop acting like he is umars peer. He’s not
He a goofy for real only looking for attention
@@champmon1572😂 okay
The white man did not create basketball. They created the nba
@@champmon1572exactly. He just another brainwashed Christian hypocrite. Repeating white mans talking points. They always diss hip hop despite being rappers and bend over backwards to credit Eminem.
I fw Dee1. He a real one
Ikr
@@CristianMartinez-nt5fp he was Fredo and GMoney teacher for a little while
Dee-1 just explained what racial idolatry is in such a wonderful manner. Well done!
This brother here is the truth! Mad respect young man!!!
Agree with Dee 1’s take on this
Dee 1 the righteous brother
Not being a Christian he ain't. Hes lost.
This whole argument coincides with the point Yasiin Bey recently made regarding hip hop. Yes em is lyrically one of the best. But its impossible for him to be the goat of hiphop consodering none of his music helps serve hiphops initially intent. He used it well to document his own personal story. Great. But none of it has helped advance the community in which the genre was born out of.
I wish I could give this comment a million thumbs up.
eminem is not lyrically one of the best. when he's not making satirical music he's average at best. any time the rap isn't based on "im a crazy psycopath" or "look how hyper/on drugs i am", he wouldnt make top 70 in my opinion. listen to songs where hes actually trying to be serious, none of them hit the same.
Facts!!! Em is not lyrically best content best, though, but he is one the best at wordplay, though.
One thing is em isn’t even lyrically that nice he’s over hyped he raps fast and uses hella syllables which isn’t traditional hip hop but there’s a guy who’s influenced heavy by em tho he’s Joyner Lucas and he’s em on steroids and he’s black so I say this to say this music sport wasn’t based off who can rhymes the most or even teach music is expressive so it’s always subjective but this dude in this video is a weirdo and is wrong
He never even advanced the genre. He’s a good technical rapper.
Dr Umar Johnson what's the opening day of the school its been 15 years 😂
Black celebrity too busy spending their money on the white man's evil materials to donate to the school to allow it to open...hahaha...
Right,AND TELL THESE PEOPLE UR REAL NAME U SCAMMING MTHRFKER. 😤
That school is never opening 😂
@@timmy841212 never.
You can tell this man got a different energy when comparing to others within the industry. Bro speaking from a common sense perspective, a truthful perspective & a Godly perspective.
Em is an ok rapper, but there is no rapper that puts it down like 2pac. After he passed away, there was no substance in music, so 2pac will forever be the goat. Some of his music can help a little kid survive in the hood girl or boy. You can't say that with nothing Eminem made 💯 🤷♂️
Big fax
2pac was a wannabe gangsta who couldn’t lyrically compete with guys like big L and big pun. 2 pac grew up In arts school 💀 promoting a life that pac wasn’t in. How pac gon scream thug life when he was in arts school while other teens his age was really in street wars 😂😂😂
Exactly well said
Eminem is a great rapper
@@Kirkaloozenstein an wack rapper but truthfully no one in the Black community checks for this guy which means he is a hype which failed and they thought it would work so he can be crowned as the G.O.A.T when in theory the Black community picked 2pac years ago and it still stands and always will.
What he really meant was we the people of the culture decide who’s the best not some random no name journalist with an agenda or the friends of the person that’s being put on a pedestal. This isn’t rocket science.
Exactly. People are always trying to interfere with our culture and then dictate and elevate people who are not of our race in the attempt to undermine us
No Umar stated that if Hip Hop is a musical art created by black people then a white rapper can't be considered the greatest in a black art no matter how good he is.
@@iam9od92 I can’t stand black folks like you .. what has race got to do with talent? .. it’s not about Eminem per say .. based on his logic no other race can be considered a goat ..
@@alphadog3586 And that makes sense considering white society has a tendency to steal our creations and take credit for them over time. And the fact they've sought to erase us from every positive African discovery in history.
When was the last blk party, wedding, barbecue, or any event where you heard us playing Eminem music? When has any blk person got in the car and was like man turn that Eminem on? He is not the goat of hip-hop...period!
That's a low level thinking requirement to address who to be GOAT
This is the real reason why Eminem is not even top 20. It's not about his skin colour.
@@JohnDoe-iv5ns on absolutely no level does Eminem quality to be the goat.
@@blackcherry6877 Go tell yo BBQs, black weddings, car ride friend groups about album sales & see if that compares to something that actually helps the artist
I was thinking the same thing I never heard of a black man say aye put some eminem on😂😂😂 only people that listen to him are white or native American😂😂😂
Dr Umar and the meaning of “pro blackness” often gets misunderstood. I don’t have a problem with religious people but their way of thinking has held our community back. All these churches preaching about god but there’s no change.
@@PinkLemonade6477 no, it’s not
Wow! The churches who lead the way to end slavery and the civil rights movement held the community back? There’s no change?
Still scared by the white man's religion. Don't even know the story of Jesus derives from Egypt and the bible is alagory.
@@PinkLemonade6477 not at all
Cause they have to get out of the church and walk the streets or have a presence on social media condemning what is not right. Lot of The youth not going to church
"AYe bro put that new EM album on" Ive never heard that a day in my life. Doesn't change that EMs a great rapper. But he don't get played in the hood.
Same. Never
The game is for Compton and made eminem a 10 minute love letter
I swear I say this, too! I never hear anyone playing his music, not even white ppl!
@@sigmasiren7 lol man 70 million monthly listeners lol
@thomasdavis8861 I'm just speaking on what I witnessed. I never see it.
It would be like me make mariachi music and the vast majority fans I have is Japanese , and all the japanese fans call me the goat because all the Japanese people bought my music and made it 1# on the japanese radio ,while only a few Mexicans actually listen to me as a whole.
That's why my top 5 NBA Greatest of all time is Larry Bird , Jerry West , Steve Kerr , Chris Mullins and Dirk Nowitky . . Real NBA players
Right because who blk actually listens to Eminem.
@@blackcherry6877 There’s some but not a lot at all.
Me @@blackcherry6877
@@JBeats111 a lot of nerdy blk people out there .. the ones in extreme poverty couldn't afford a 20$ eminem CD but suburban blk kids did .. i had a friend Nate he was from Chicago but moved to the suburbs and he loved eminem and Korn he was a music fan he would play Santana too .. if he had stayed in Chicago living in a bad area he would've listened to other low class music
He went apples and oranges on this one. He is comparing a business entity to a culture and life experiences of a group of people..Eminem will NEVER experience life as a Black Man or the creators of HipHop. Just because a white person is talented you dont have to inflate their talent level and lower our own.
Exactly ✊🏿
You will jump through hoops to make it seem different. Just live with the fact that you guys can never be great at anything that another race created. That’s what you believe.
well white people created basketball in general not just the nba. basketball was originally a white man’s game
It’s amazing how people will make things up in their head to fit a narrative … I believe the word I’m looking for is delusional
I think they deleted my comment lol
He not the goat cause he simply isn’t the goat. race has nothing to do with it.
dr umar was asked a direct question about if eminem was a top rapper, and umar responded to it based on his worldview, he didnt bring up eminem ouut of the blue so it cant be for soundbites.
Exactly
Right ...this guy needs to think more before talking on this
D1 clearly has a white mother or father
@BasedGawdNev Exactly. If you have a brain and are willing to work hard you will have a good life in america. Either do that or admit that you won't. It's time to stop blaming society and white people
Basically if an Indian or Chinese person invented something …they would never say a person from different ethnic group is the best of it
What? Yes they would lol
Chess originated in India & the best player in the world, a Norwegian guy named Magnus Carlsen is really popular world wide. Including India.
italians claim pasta though
Noodles came from China but they have no problem saying Italians make the best spaghetti.
@@MrJayson204no it did not. Look at the pieces on the board.
@@ceeIocno they don’t u just assume bcuz Asian people eat it a lot
Dude is 100% right with his assessment and analogy.
Naismith was given credit for “inventing” hooping
I have been waiting months for someone to use this analogy.😂
It’s a terrible analogy. Whites people didn’t invent basketball 4:30
@davruck1 You meant whites didn't create ball and goal games, but the Naismith (a white man) did invent the ball and goal game named basketball.
Amen… We followin Gods Commandments!!!! Hallelujah 🙏🏽✝️
Sacrificing common sense for the sake of sound bytes pretty much sums up the overwhelming majority of dialogue on social media.
There is no Goat in Hip Hop
Everyone is great in the lane they are in and the style they come across with.
hiphop was made with the thought of a goat in mind......unlike basketball its lterally where that term spawns from
@@beatpaxStraight ignorant you are.
GOAT "spawned" from Hip Hop in the 1990s.
@@ykd818 you are the ignorant one here. Because we are saying the exact same thing. I said ..... UNLIKE basketball
That was a simple yet EXCELLENT and powerful point using the NBA analogy in reference 2 the Hip-Hop point.
He’s lost in the rapture of Jesus…
It’s not a sin for black people to want to marry within their race. How is that not of God? I like Dee 1 because he talks about the negative aspects of hip hop. He is 💯 on that for sure. Too many pookies and shanequas out here making the rest of the black community look bad. Our black community needs to return to God. But it is not wrong for me to want to build a black family and establish generational wealth. No one is going to tell me that’s wrong. And that’s not making race my idol. Every culture prefers to be with their own. It’s only us that marry outside our race. I only want a beautiful black woman and I am not ashamed of that.
His hair looks like it’s stink!!! Definitely a smart and wise brother!! He’s right about Umar, yea the one who hasn’t got the damn school open yet!!
He burned through that money tricking with a philly stripper, frfr
Dr Umar Johnson was right about Eminem not being the goat
Sales say otherwise
@@SuperJoshuaWorld64He’s not and never would be especially not something we created
@@1700Vagay
@@1700Va This is why we can never overcome white people have no problem giving LeBron James and Michael Jordan credit but some blacks wont give Em his credit
Tiger woods can never be the goat at golf. He is a guest in the world of golf.
Dee-1 Stays On Point Every Time *100 Much Love
Pro Black and pro white are not the same thing. Pro black was created in response to white supremacy. Please don’t compare the two.
Exactly, they don’t like the strength and power of our people💯
The Goat conversation is all subjective? Everyone has their own opinion on who the GOAT is. Everyone’s top 5 is not gonna be the same.
Eminem is nice but he's just not my go to rapper that i would rather listen to on the daily basis
Nothing is more pro than pro-god….well said.
Also no diss to the Bible but the issue is when you only suggest ONE book to fix every problem then you're leaving too many effective books on the table that can help. Dr Umar is looking at relationships the same way other races do and the reason they hardly marry outside of the race is because they put their extended family first over just themselves and other things come with that because they depending on the family to accomplish multiple things including business.
Whoop there it is........
Thats not a reason to say you dont need 1 book to live by. Youre putting a book of man over a book of God
@@JohnDoe-iv5ns The thing is there's proof man wrote the bible that no religious person can get away from.
The Bible is a collection of letters and books, written by uniquely inspired by the Holy Spirit. The lessons and stories and metaphors and poetry and history written in ink is untouched by time. Those men who wrote claim that what they wrote came straight from the Lord thy God Himself with no filter or filler. Believe it or not is your choice. As for me and my house, we shall serve the Lord.
@@walterruth5901 The fact I can prove the bible was written by man and I can name specific people, council's and primary texts for this is why people thinking God wrote it will not hold up in serious debate with educated theologians.
"dr. umar's commandments or God's commandments?" that's the million dollar question!
Dee one often talks in a condescending tone then follows it with “I say that with love” then when people respond he’s the victim
One of those manipulative “Christian’s”
No he's not.
@@Keanu1606 he really is … in another video he tries to discredit the impact of pac because he “glorified” certain things like discredit a talented 25 year old that spoke on the white power structure is hate masked under “I do Gods work”
He didn’t understand Dr. Umar, he meant HipHop culturally. HipHop was born out of oppression, if you’re not oppressed, even more-so, the same racce as the oppressors, your music doesn’t hold the same merit. It’s like a man being the best feminist, in the feminist movement… Although, technically, it could be possible as men have more power in society, ethically, it wouldn’t be as authentic as it’s a man having his way in a man’s world. Like, Eminem is technically the highest selling rapper, but he is ywhte in a majority ywhtte market. Like, a man advocating for womn & passing feminist laws would rank them as the most effective feminists… But they are a man, in a man’s world. For example, a man invented the tampon, but he could never express the pain & suffering of a woman’s menstrual cycle. It wouldn’t hold merit. Eminem can’t make a deeply cultural HipHop song about the struggle people of the culture face.
“Though I'm not the first king of controversy
I am the worst thing since Elvis Presley
To do Blache music so selfishly
And use it to get myself wealthy
There's a concept that works”
-Eminem (Without Me)
“Look at these eyes, baby blue, baby just like yourself
If they were brown, Shady lose, Shady sits on the shelf
…
Let's do the math, if I was blache, I would've sold half, I
Ain't have to graduate from Lincoln High School to know that”
-Eminem (Ywht America)
Eminem acknowledging his own bias. He is touted as the goat because he is the most successful. But the irony is, he wasn’t ywht/euro, he wouldn’t be the most successful in HipHop. That’s why Em can’t be the goat, even though he is a goat(no doubt about that).. Culturally speaking tho? No.
I Never Said I Wasn't a Guest in the House of Hip-Hop, I Absolutely Am
- Eminem in an interview admitting he is a guest in HipHop.
....sad smh. He didn't SACRIFICE COMMON SENSE there's NUANCE in everything but we ALWAYS got an excuse. Salute to Dee- 1 AND Dr. Umar WAKE TF UP. Never said he hated nobody. We dont wanna be US "Pro 'BLACK'". simple as that.
Most definitely has sacrificed common sense when you listen to him long enough.
@@JJohnson313 ...most definitely HASN'T when you listen long enough.
He said... "WE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE NOT MORE PRO-BLACK THAN WE ARE PRO-GOD." Whew...that was a word for me.
Much respect young man!!!
Dee-1 all 2024 and more💯
Although i disagree with Umar because its all opinions but Dee 1 really needs to do his history homework on where James Naismith got the concept of basketball from
Thank you … He didn’t create the sport .
50 cent- Hip Hop is Black music, without question, and, unfortunately for some people, it's tough to accept that you have a White artist that does it better than Black artists
White people anoited MJ as the goat. Black people never anoited Em is the goat. Big difference! Now that's a 🎤 drop. 🙏🏾
Wtf???😂😂😂
What MJ you talking about
Bullshit it's plenty of black people calling Eminem the greatest or one of the greatest. stop the cap it only makes you look ignorant.
Who is this black people counsel that you speak of responsible for anointing hip hop goats?
@@ceeIocbunch of racists
Well said✊🏾
Umar is not to be taken seriously. He'll say anything. 😆
What he said is true
Anyone that takes him seriously is just as silly as he is
@@QuinnSmalls215 the way you blkmn defend your massa-Eminen is really sad.
dumb people look up to umar
@@QuinnSmalls215anyone that's black and doesn't has European brain and sees the world through white people eyes
Hey man! He cant use my analogy lol 😂
Naismith did not create basketball. Naismith admitted he saw black Boys of color who was shooting balls in crates. He basically stole that and made it a game.
The funny thing is they never actually say he invented basketball. They say he organized it and of course whites supremacists took this and ran with it. So whites ain’t the best at basketball cuz they didn’t create it. That should be obvious. But many people think white folks taught us everything
You mfs claim that bullshit about everything. Not a damn thing to show for it in black Sub-Saharan Africa.
Emimen is great because he can Rap. One of the greatest Rapper ever.❤❤❤❤
This is what I mean when I talk about God and following Jesus. We as a ppl boast up so many men and women bc of what they say or their positions or titles but none of them use God as an example of their points or progress in society. It’s just like they can see what others can’t or they know through all of their experience or research that this is definite. But we are all lost in this world of sin and putting God 1st in everything is how u see through the deceptions in the devils playground. It is incredibly hard to explain certain things even thou they are extremely important bc most cannot get the world out of their system enough to see or hear from God every step. The world has a big stage and it will take a big leap of faith to reset your own mind and soul. If it ain’t of God or written in the word of God no matter who says it or how they say it then how can it be of God when none of us are God or know the mind of God therefore we cannot say what God wants, needs or says. The Bible is nvr changing but so how all through history we love to boast up ppl in that sense bc of how they present themselves. Mind u I said themselves. God Bless
I dont know him and almost judged him by his appearance...thankfully I listed to this clip. Intelligent guy
Em will never be the goat...2pac is already declared the G.O.A.T and that will never change.
Facts!!!!!
True Words
Facts
@@TJ-zs1pl lol no he isnt
Exactly 2pac will forever be the goat
My man gave his honest opinion and respectfully pushed omar to the side lol
Sports and music are different
Facts. Sports was integrated.
VERY
They are both different. Rap is integrated as well. You see most rappers are black skinned. But truthfully behind closed doors, the record labels, streaming platforms, radio stations, concert venues, commercial deals etc. are owned by white men. And even fans are integrated.
@anointedbytmhelohiym2333 We created Hip Hop which was integrated by White people seeing the profit and influence it could have and WE started selling out for the dollar to let them "Own it" being the faces in the offices so WRONG and slightly right at the same time
We don't care about the integrated fans🤷🏿
What you all need to do is text Dr. Umar, man to man, if you don't understand what he meant. Dr. Umar is a greater ally to you, and teacher of you, than almost anyone else out here. He will explain to you the significance of what he said, as his understanding is beyond yours. Decades of tedious research on OUR consciousness has led him to say what he has. You don't have the same insight.
Sports is a poor example for 2 reasons. 1) sports is based on countable achievements to determine the goats. 2) they will never let you own a sports team for a reason.
So they keep there hierarchy anyway by ownership of these teams and players.
Facts a terrible analogy and people regurgitating it 😆
1. Music is also countable by record sales and revenue generated. 2. There have been black owners already.
@@ceeIoc record sales don’t determine the best mc/rapper alone. If that’s the case vanilla ice is top 5. And Snow is the goat of reggae music. And the ny Knicks have the most ticket sales. Make that make sense. And who is an owner?
The point he is making is that Eminem shouldn't be disqualified because of his skin colour. I disqualify Eminem because
1. Record sales is not an indicator of his music adhering to Hip Hop culture.
2. Most of his songs are basically pop music with him rapping in it. A bit like Drake.
3. Hip Hop is black culture and we don't condone disrespecting your mother. This part of our culture is why 2Pac and Jay'Z automatically lost to Biggie and Nas. We don't condone playing with other men's wives or daughters.
But to disqualify him just because he's white is ....🤷🏾♂️
@@absolute7250 vanilla ice isn’t even in the top 20 for album sales in the us. I never said only record sales. Michael Jordan.
This young man is the one. He’s ACTUALLY a critical thinker and people hate that shit nowadays.
He just repeating talking points
@@davruck1 - Who is he parroting, if I might ask?
@@ddoubleu170 Charleston white. He said the same dumbass shit.
umar should've gotten at em for the garbage music. you can't really be a GOAT when your discography is bad. Em's music has sucked for the most part for 20 years. After 2004 he never recovered.
I agree. I think "The Eminem Show" was his last good album plus some of his mixtape diss tracks. After that, for me, it was all downhill. I see that your name is The Cunninlynguist. Kno is my all-time favorite producer.
Man that music been trash we was just living in a different era
@@growngrownman5950 beast on the boards...love Kno's beats.
Mcdonald's sells a lot of hamburgers and that doesn't qualify it as the best restaurant.
Eminem is not the GOAT because of his skin color. He's not the GOAT because there is only one lyrical M.C. who resigns supreme since 1985... his name is, Rakim and he "ain't no joke."
Umar is nothing but talk.
A scam,not even his real name 😂,u can't tell alota these dumb mfs 💩! And his own father said his @ss ain't even african 😂!!!! Bit he pushing it on the ignorant followers.
Honestly, Eminem might make my top 10 but not my top 5 like most people try to put him.
🤦🏾 This brotha and everyone else who claims to believe in the Bible needs to go review the scriptures.
Im saying
Review what?
@@PapaIrieyou saying what?
Eminem is not even in my top 10 and it has nothing to do with him being white 😎
Being pro-God has kept people nothing but obedient, silent and anti-rebellious, I support anyone who wants to be more pro-black
You dont know God then. Because God got a wrath like no other. The thing is, people believe in what Jesus taught, about turning the other cheek and loving your enemy. God never told us to do that, we are told to execute judgment. The lack of executing the judgments that follow the commandments is what got us where we are. If your child keeps disobeying you but you never discipline them or have someone discipline them for you, your child will continue to disobey you...but then there are those who say you shouldn't discipline your child in certain ways...but God said spare the rod spoil the child sooo...yeah lol God has sent MANY discipliners and executioners but we throw them to the wolves and never defend them for the RIGHTEOUS "evil" they carried out. Like putting a father in prison for killing the man that molested the father's child. Why is the father in prison and sympathy shown to the molester? Because we aint really been Pro-God.
I’ve been saying that since he made that dumb remark.
Facts
This young man is very very insightful and intelligent
Dee 1 seems off and slow at times if you listen to him long enough you can see that the religion has warp his mind.
And other mind warped people can’t see this.
Some would say black people like Little Richard and Chuck Berry created rock and roll. Elvis is considered the king of rock and roll. Some would even say black people created country music. George Strait is considered the king of country music.
Em is the Backpack Rapper that made it. He doesn’t need your validation. The fact that ppl debate if he’s the goat or not is a win it self.
U said a buncha nothing. Only reason the goat bs came up is because prejudice whites said he was the goat..not anywhere else on planet earth do people say that
They’re the goats because they’ve done the most evil behind the scene
Truthfully
Gotta dig deeper into the scriptures Brethren. The Most High (GOD) instructed the Israelites not to marry outside of their tribes. There are numerous examples of great men in the bible, who fell because they joined themselves/married women of other races (Solomon, Samson, etc). Also, if Eminem is the greatest MC, Justin Timberlake is the greatest hip hop/R&B dancer. We gotta be willing to call a spade a spade. Peace and blessings to all my Brothers and Sisters that are walking according to the scriptures. Shalom
Greetings, Scripture verse please! No where written says do not marry due to color. This ideology is the spirit of distraction. Please do not be deceived or preach deception. 1 John 4:20-21 20 If anyone says, “I love God,” but hates his brother, he is a liar; for whoever does not love a brother whom he has seen cannot love God* whom he has not seen. 21This is the commandment we have from him: whoever loves God must also love his brother.
🤦🏾♂️ A Game an a Art is two different conversations. Umar was right.
This young brotha just cooked Umar's ass w/that NBA analogy...Likes
He wasn't the first to use the nba on Umar just saying and much respect✊🏾💪🏾
This whole thing is dumb if u think about it. “The white man invented speakers so….”
No he didn't and I'm not going against Dee but no... Even Larry Bird told Michael Jordan he was Jesus in sneakers.... Whether we created it or not some things we are and were built and prepared for from remnants of Slavery, also created by the White Man so is there a G.O.A.T of slavery???? He's getting the clicks. Only thing Umar said wrong was the Vanessa/Kobe stuff because that's how you get canceled and not taken seriously 💯💯
White man didnt create shit!!! NOTHING Nba was but not the sport itself!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@marcwilliams6086 Really, who was the 1st?
Amen! Thank you for this
And biggie was the GOAT imho
Dee 1 is very confused 😕. If they are so great? Kobe lebron why are they not the emblem of the nba Jerry west is. Dee 1 has no clue on racism he’s babbling. Show me a person of god on planet earth I’ll show you a unicorn 😅
Exactly ✊🏿
Your basically saying you agree with Dr Umar racist rants he just needs to word it differently or hold back so he doesn’t come off that way
Umar is a race grifter. Where is the school??? 😂
Asking for donations for the school is his hustle.
Religion has kept our people docile and afraid to take our position in this world. Praying to a God for something to happen for you does not work. Half of Black people think praying will fix our issues. The other half say "faith without works".
Is this Dude biracial?
I see he's trading lightly on some topics
You mean treading*, right?
His father definitely looks non black to me.
He’s black n creole
Yeah he's C🦝🦝NIN
hip hop was birthed by foundational black Americans that used the art and expression created under impoverished circumstances to elevate,celebrate their plight. Why wouldn't it be necessary that the people that come from those same circumstances as the pioneers be the ones to anoint the goats? Or why shouldn't their opinionated voice be more important? After all this was created by us. I've lived in Europe, Africa, and USA and trust me no other hiphop artist holds more reverence internationally than Tupac Shakur. They're not bumping Em in Africa and Europe like that. Its not even close. So just because his music is more viable to white folks in America doesn't mean he had greater influence. Thats just socio economics. who is the buying demographic? not black folk. But saying that doesn't negate Eminems contribution or his skill set. Its just stating the obvious.
Umar was right, Eminem is not the goat. I lost all respect for this dude trying to co-sign ytppl trying to steal hip-hop.
Trying to steal lmao drop the ego
@@ceeIoc You don't know the difference between ego and facts. I suggest you enroll in your local community college sir. You have a lot to learn.
KNOCK IT OFF. Like I said before, I’m now giving the side eye to ANYBODY buying into a dude that hasn’t opened a school in 10+ years.
@@QuinnSmalls215 hahaha🤣🤣🤣You are very triggered that Eminem is not the goat. Not a good look for you going this hard for him. Its actually sad😭💀
@@blackcherry6877 where are your facts?
Whites created nba but they never dominated it blacks have name the best white nba player ever and I’ll give you Michael jordan dr Umar is rite
Wanna be jay Cole
he was out before j cole, but his career went no where, j cole never came in the game with dreads, but he was definitely the template for j cole image
Lol if you only knew hater judging cause that man facial features and color of skin stop that pu##y s#!t
Just because they look the same doesn't mean they are the same.
Dr umar is right eminem can only b top5 not no 1 Umars goat is Tupac Shakur so i agree with him on that
Such an intolerant idea. Being goat has nothing to do with who created the art form.
Yeah it do..The Goats status will always come down to Tupac and Biggie..Em not even close
@@pesocheco If you think he is not as good, that's different, and that's your opinion. But saying he can't be goat because he's white is racist.
@@sunnybossynarks never said he wasn’t good..he was dope for the time being, which was 00-06. So I’m being realistic. U probably the racist if u callin him the Goat
Im not a big eminem fan, but if u use umars logic any person of any race who excelles in anything created by another even if that person is respected, should not be called a goat, jon joes in mma , williams in tennis etc.
Eminem is not a goat, nothing to do with his race. I've heard his bars about R his own mother.... Weirdo shit
What's weird is Black Men rapping about drilling each other and actually doing it.
The whites always try to be apart of our culture. I find that weird
That is in the scriptures better go back and read it show you haven't read it .
Somebody’s going to say something crazy but the basketball thing is a fact
He telling the truth
White people didn’t invent basketball
Don’t know this young man but he totally gets it. So tired of racism. It’s getting old.
You’re a simpleton
That's a weak argument. Athletes are hired. The NBA is a corporation. Artist are individuals. Anyone can be a rapper. Not just anyone can be a NBA player. Don't know how you lookin' for respect when the aspects of your culture are so easy to invade.
Well said