Saying Eminem can't be considered a GOAT of Hip Hop, is like saying Ken Griffey Jr. can't be considered a goat of baseball because it wasn't created by us. Sounds absurd.
Bad comparison lol, you could have said Willie mays, Barry bonds, Hank Aaron but you chose Ken Griffey Jr thy struggled with injuries the second half of his career
@@DMVBLACK The underlying point is the skin color. Insert whoever you want from whichever sport you want. The comparison applies. Bo Jackson was riddled with injuries too...in my book he still a GOAT. Yall really picked the most trivial detail and ignored the main point.
@@stronginthewind it may be trivial (to you) but it’s still a bad comparison. Ken Griffey jr was never considered the GOAT in his profession, a better comparison would have been MJ and basketball. Just trying to help you out lil nicca
Oh please like you don't do that, like your brother and sister don't do that, like your Mom dont do that, like my neighbor don't do that. Give it a rest
Stop saying hip hop STARTED with African Americans AND Latinos @1:16. Black people who were around back then have been saying that Latinos didn't come in until later.
sadly we have alot of our people that are afraid to claim black creations while others are not scared to claim theirs. when we claim our stuff, people get upset.
In the beginning Hip Hop wasn’t just rapping, it was also break dancing, DJ’ing, & graffiti. That all together was the culture of Hip Hop. Reason Puerto Ricans are included is because majority of break dancer’s & graffiti artist were Latinos. Small minimum were black. It was vice versa with the rapping and DJ elements.
Facts because they wouldn’t give us credit if it was the other way round show me a latino from the beginning of hip-hop album from one of those so-called Latinos because you can’t be Latino unless you’re Greek the word Latino derived from Greek just as well as Spanish those are Greek words so those people are just all the way confused and with that being said, I’m half so-called Latino because my father is Mexican and my mom‘s black, but I was raised around nothing but Black people
lol an icon in Germany? Weird how George is never mentioned in any hip hop history books or documentaries made by & about the people & pioneers who were actually in the 70s & 80s scene
On multiple occasions they've made mention that hip-hop is a culture...As someone that grew up in the Bronx in the 80's that saw the birth and growth of Hip-Hop what was the culture or way of life? It certainly wasn't speaking from a point of white privilege. To say that it wasn't race is nonsense. In those times Hip-Hop became the voice of the voiceless. The inner city youth that created something from nothing. Aside from lyrics and break dancing it spoke to the pain of living in poverty. Observing your peers and elders getting caught in the devils sneers. It spoke to what black youth lived through everyday.
this guys leading of questioning reminds me of being suddly interrogated by a cop .. like trying to get me trip on my words … YEAH vlad tv all fed net fr
If u agree with Umar, u also agree Tiger Woods is not the GOAT because Golf is a white mans sport. Same for Basketball, started by whites - i guess MJ and Bron cant be the greats, dumb argument
To me it's just impossible to say who is the GOAT, there are simply way too many talented/influential rappers. Also, as a French person, I can confirm that Hip Hop culture is big in my country.
cause ur IQ is low. If u agree with Umar, u also agree Tiger Woods is not the GOAT because Golf is a white mans sport. Same for Basketball, started by whites - i guess MJ and Bron cant be the greats, dumb argument
Eminems is definitely 1 of the best lyricist to exist but he doesn't hit home with the blk community with songs like jayz - song cry, this can't be life, beanie Sigel - Die, Tupac dear mama etc. The closet he got was Stan & cleaning out my closet, but all his other songs are great rap songs for the time but long longevity I'm not listening to none of his old shit nothing speaks to me Lastly I'm not a fan of Eminem he's a dope lyricist hands down but he not the goat 💯
I don't know what makes Eminem the greatest of all time besides his record sales. However, it's possible that his popularity among white people, who make up the majority of the American population, has contributed to his success.
In hip hop you have to go through black people to be considered the goat. We are the culture and hip hop moves as we move. You can sell a billion records but if a majority of black people aren't the ones listening and verifying that you are the top guy, then you're not that guy. No different than if someone black sings country but only majority black folks mess with him.
@@hassan3o7 that’s a nationality not a race. Were Scottish immigrants considered white in America? Nope. Hmmmm why is that? “White” people have only existed for a few hundred years at most. That’s why whites get dominated in every major sport even when they have unfair advantages. They didn’t create sports.
He used the worst analogy. All he had to say is it's like Tiger Woods can't be the goat of golf because it's a white man's sport. Or Michael Jordan can't be the goat of basketball because it's a white man's sport Colour has nothing to do with anything. You're either the best or you're not.
MY THOUGHTS: I'm starting to believe STAR on the Hip-Hop/Rap take: Hip-Hop/Rap WAS a culture - it HAD rules/perimeters! BUT if Hip-Hop/Rap is a culture why is it getting more disrespect than other cultures (if it's "culture")?? 90-95% don't respect it as a "culture" frfr.. REMEMBER.. everything is a VIBE.
Music isn't based on skin color and all on culture. There are hip-hop/rap artists all around the world and becoming one of the biggest genres of music around the world. There are ghettos and people struggling across the globe, that's why they relate to rap music because it was they live every day. Also, rap wouldn't be what it is today if it wasn't for the consumer. So, to say it's an "african american" thing is total bullshit. These rappers who agree with Dr.Umar should give their money back to fans cause something tells me 60-75% of they fan base aint black. Let's take NWA, for example, the number of records they sold when they dropped they album was insane. If you look up the stats, if only black people bought they album, each household would have had to buy something around the lines of 17 albums per household. That right there tells you that hip-hop didn't just resonate with the black communities but all communities across the board. Im white and grew up in northern Ontario, Canada. The older generation of the time listened to rock and country, yet me and the generation i grew up with didn't as we couldn't relate to what they were saying. We never grew up in no farms or back road living. We grew up with drugs on the block, everyone trying to get theirs and willing to die over it, constantly worrying bout cops, friends dying over street politics or beefs, whole neighborhoods looking like it got ripped outta the CrackTown movie. With that being said, what music do you think we were going to be listening to, not country, not rock, not pop, not techno, we listened to rap cause it was the lifestyle and culture we knew. I think a lot of people tend to place rap or hiphop under the "black umbrella" when in all reality its considered part of that struggle culture. Your skin cokor doesnt determine your culture. Your lifestyle, your surroundings, and your environment determine the culture you are most likely to embrace, not your skin color.
48 hrs to respond to benzino or that goat bull 💩 is over. He has yet to PROPERLY respond to that or MGK... Better yet game. Has Eminem REALLY been battle tested other than Poppa Doc in 8 mile 🤔
@@LamarrLewis-x6syou could say the same about Snoop. No Dre no Snoop. So you hatin.. they all can be lucky Dre put them out there. You can not compare Snoop to Em style wise but both icons for themselves and its your opinion who you like more. Both goats
Nah.. it originated from impoverished black communities. Hip Hop is black energy. Like Dr Umar said.. other ppl can stop actin like they fw it at any moment.. but we're that for life. It's whatever. But Dr Umar is sayin we dont hold nothin sacred and everyone else will benefit and exploit us for it, while still makin a mockery as they have been.
Saying Eminem is not a GOAT because he's white is like saying Jordan can't be a GOAT because Basketball was invented by white people or Tiger isn't a GOAT because Golf was invented by white people. Blacks are only 12% of the U.S. population which means Hip-Hop wouldn't be the #1 genre in the world without the alliance, patronage, support and contributions of white people. There were also white B-boys in the beginning. Early on it was the production of Rick Ruben that helped propel the genre and its artist's careers. Artists such as Run DMC, Beastie Boys, L.L. and Geto Boys. At the end of the day Hip-Hop is an amalgamation of different cultures influenced by life in America. Hip-Hop transcends all the labels that keep us divided. There's only one race, the human race. Race or color is a construct that was purposely created by the 1% to keep people divided and easier to conquer.
Naw, that's black culture. They took everything else, our freedom, our music(shit like Elvis), our labor, naw. Eminem can't be the goat. That shit ain't right.
Dr Umar not HATING on Em I dig where he's coming from his stance is from a pro black perspective only he's not concerned with white people being a part of hip hop culture .Rap today is just Pop music meaning popular music
A person would have to be extraordinary to be a goat in another peoples culture. Michael Jordan is extraordinary, Serena Williams is extraordinary, Simone Biles is extraordinary. Eminem is not extraordinary there are hundreds of Eminem’s
I think it was good cause be honest if a black or white dude told u they made the best tacos you'd need proof before you accept, so for a white in hip hop to be at the top he'd have to prove it which I'd say Em has done
Saying Eminem can't be considered a GOAT of Hip Hop, is like saying Ken Griffey Jr. can't be considered a goat of baseball because it wasn't created by us. Sounds absurd.
Bad comparison lol, you could have said Willie mays, Barry bonds, Hank Aaron but you chose Ken Griffey Jr thy struggled with injuries the second half of his career
Gayminem is the goat of emo alternative goth surfer white dude rap music 😅
Horrible comparison
@@DMVBLACK The underlying point is the skin color. Insert whoever you want from whichever sport you want. The comparison applies. Bo Jackson was riddled with injuries too...in my book he still a GOAT. Yall really picked the most trivial detail and ignored the main point.
@@stronginthewind it may be trivial (to you) but it’s still a bad comparison. Ken Griffey jr was never considered the GOAT in his profession, a better comparison would have been MJ and basketball. Just trying to help you out lil nicca
"Boskoe Like, like, like, like, like, like, like, 100"
Oh please like you don't do that, like your brother and sister don't do that, like your Mom dont do that, like my neighbor don't do that. Give it a rest
The hip-hop culture started with black Americans and them alone
If Boskoe was from Harlem, him & Hell Rell could be the new "Harlem Heat"
Un Kasa from can be their manager replacing Sherri Martel.
Hell Nawl 😆🤣😂🤣🤪💯
Wow i lowkey can see that😂😂😂
@jaimesmith2266Well I see it💯%😆🤣😂
@@mackpark3153 Man😂😂😂😂
Stop saying hip hop STARTED with African Americans AND Latinos @1:16. Black people who were around back then have been saying that Latinos didn't come in until later.
sadly we have alot of our people that are afraid to claim black creations while others are not scared to claim theirs. when we claim our stuff, people get upset.
In the beginning Hip Hop wasn’t just rapping, it was also break dancing, DJ’ing, & graffiti. That all together was the culture of Hip Hop. Reason Puerto Ricans are included is because majority of break dancer’s & graffiti artist were Latinos. Small minimum were black. It was vice versa with the rapping and DJ elements.
Facts because they wouldn’t give us credit if it was the other way round show me a latino from the beginning of hip-hop album from one of those so-called Latinos because you can’t be Latino unless you’re Greek the word Latino derived from Greek just as well as Spanish those are Greek words so those people are just all the way confused and with that being said, I’m half so-called Latino because my father is Mexican and my mom‘s black, but I was raised around nothing but Black people
Ms Netta lookin ahh. Chawls yo lunch is ready lookn ahh 😂😂
“His tacos is the shit”
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i wasn't prepared for that tacos metaphor xD
Boskoe's explanation of music as a universal language like math blew me away. Never thought of it that way, but it makes perfect sense.
that would be ridiculous to say though@@mbdc-sn2xk
George Kranz, a White German dude, is a Hip-Hop icon, legend and great since 1983 with Kranz and the younger Black generation not even knowing.
lol an icon in Germany? Weird how George is never mentioned in any hip hop history books or documentaries made by & about the people & pioneers who were actually in the 70s & 80s scene
@@joojoobaw Are you being sarcastic or are you giving George flowers?
Who
Of all the things Umar touched on Vlad's mouthpiece focuses on Eminem 😂
What else could he possibly ask Boskoe about Umar??? I'll wait
Em came into the game with a sound no one could imitate he is a goat
He didn’t innovate anything
@@davruck1 who took ems style and did it better?
Yeah no one could imitate that nasal mosquito voice that gayminem created 😅
The hip hop legends all respect Eminem. Name one thats actually lyrical who says he sucks at rapping, Ill wait. @@IdontevenknowU
Outsiders, D12and Royce? 😂
On multiple occasions they've made mention that hip-hop is a culture...As someone that grew up in the Bronx in the 80's that saw the birth and growth of Hip-Hop what was the culture or way of life? It certainly wasn't speaking from a point of white privilege. To say that it wasn't race is nonsense. In those times Hip-Hop became the voice of the voiceless. The inner city youth that created something from nothing. Aside from lyrics and break dancing it spoke to the pain of living in poverty. Observing your peers and elders getting caught in the devils sneers. It spoke to what black youth lived through everyday.
He says Holywood wasn't based off of Race....😮....oh boskoe......pt 1
If you have Eminem over 2Pac that is hilarious
even Marshall said pac is no 1 4 him why bcoz he achievied da most in his 4yr Rap Career
this guys leading of questioning reminds me of being suddly interrogated by a cop .. like trying to get me trip on my words … YEAH vlad tv all fed net fr
Boskoe still looking like the black version of that old talking oak tree in the Lord of the Rings
Treebeard the Ent lmao
Vlad is going to milk Dr. Umar’s statement on Eminem down to the last drop. 😂😂😂
i’m with dr umar on this one🤷🏿♂️ima get hate but little do people know there was time period where i only bumped em for a good while
If u agree with Umar, u also agree Tiger Woods is not the GOAT because Golf is a white mans sport. Same for Basketball, started by whites - i guess MJ and Bron cant be the greats, dumb argument
To me it's just impossible to say who is the GOAT, there are simply way too many talented/influential rappers.
Also, as a French person, I can confirm that Hip Hop culture is big in my country.
Lil Wayne is the GOAT
@@leonardtarver149 That's your opinion, I couldn't name one.
This is the best I’ve seen Boskoe .
Aye Boskoe, u should do stand up, yo lives is just crowd work that shit a gift
Hip hop started with Jamaicans living in the bronx
🤔
And a White German dude who didn't even know what Hip-Hop was in 1983.
No it didn’t
@@davruck1 yes it did
Yes it did
Wow Latinos started Hip Hop? I never knew Pigmeat Markham, James Brown and George Clinton were Latinos… ❤️ 🖤 💚
Is it me or does this dude look like Booker T the wrestler.😂😂😂
*black man appears on vlad* “how do you feel about Eminem?
Hip Hop is for everyone.
Bosko caught me off guard with the tacos
Wayne is the Goat but Em is definitely Top 5
I feel you he's a great rapper but definitely not the 🐐💯
The convo was a 🐐 you just had to say not the 🐐 even though he is. Kills people to just give flowers without trying to take something away.
TUPAC SHAKUR
He should’ve got him with say the Burrough , not NY” 😂
goat of rap without one classic album foh 😅😅😅😅
I agree with Umar
cause ur IQ is low. If u agree with Umar, u also agree Tiger Woods is not the GOAT because Golf is a white mans sport. Same for Basketball, started by whites - i guess MJ and Bron cant be the greats, dumb argument
BOSKOE IS A VERY HANDSOME YOUNG MAN
🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂
Boskoe & Hell Rell should form a tag team lol
It's not that, he is white he is a good rapper but he can't be a goat
I think 🤔 boskoe is David Gulpilil love children when he was filming crocodile Dundee 😂😂
0:47 this next sentence makes no sense….. it’s not possible lol
Boskoe has a face only a mother can love
Eminems is definitely 1 of the best lyricist to exist but he doesn't hit home with the blk community with songs like jayz - song cry, this can't be life, beanie Sigel - Die, Tupac dear mama etc.
The closet he got was Stan & cleaning out my closet, but all his other songs are great rap songs for the time but long longevity I'm not listening to none of his old shit nothing speaks to me
Lastly I'm not a fan of Eminem he's a dope lyricist hands down but he not the goat 💯
Who's talking her it's not VLAD
I'm lost and what's does Dr Umar does ?
My only issue with the Eminem “GOAT” discussion is that his discography is dense in comparison to his peers imo.
I don't know what makes Eminem the greatest of all time besides his record sales. However, it's possible that his popularity among white people, who make up the majority of the American population, has contributed to his success.
his skill level of how he writes, Rakim agreees
@@NavAK_86 Eminem is top 10 but not the 🐐
It's true hip hop is the voice for under privileged and viixeagainst the government and racism but its starting to change I guess
Eminem isn't even as good as Twista or Busta rhymes. I can't even listen to any Eminem's record. His music aged horribly.
In hip hop you have to go through black people to be considered the goat. We are the culture and hip hop moves as we move. You can sell a billion records but if a majority of black people aren't the ones listening and verifying that you are the top guy, then you're not that guy. No different than if someone black sings country but only majority black folks mess with him.
Em has gotten respect from the legends though.
Dr uber lol
I'm sitting in Detroit RN. Born and raised. Eminem is the lyrical god
I cnt stand people like you … drive me crazyyyyyy
what lyrical God
wam
bam
scram run that shit trashhhhh
@@chiefkkk5538 what exactly are you trying to say?
You should be a stan up comedian 😅
My Brother Boskoe100, Eminem is not in the Conversation of Top 5 anything Black Culture!!!!
Hahahaha
Except hip hop of course
Right now if it was emo trailer park rap music then gayminem is the greatest of that mess 😅
We have to take away MJ n LeBrons NBA status if that's the case
Whites didn’t invent basketball
HipHop is dead and rap is what everyone is now listening to. Nobody is out here dancing to HipHop anymore. And in all honesty rap is dying also.
Tiger woods can't be the goat because he's not white.
White people didn’t invent gold golf.
@@davruck1 the Scottish did
@@hassan3o7 that’s a nationality not a race. Were Scottish immigrants considered white in America? Nope. Hmmmm why is that? “White” people have only existed for a few hundred years at most. That’s why whites get dominated in every major sport even when they have unfair advantages. They didn’t create sports.
Eminem is pure 🗑️
He used the worst analogy. All he had to say is it's like Tiger Woods can't be the goat of golf because it's a white man's sport. Or Michael Jordan can't be the goat of basketball because it's a white man's sport
Colour has nothing to do with anything. You're either the best or you're not.
It’s not a white mans sport. They didn’t create it.
I'll take Dr Dre's word over Dr Umar Johnson. That's like saying Em can't make a 5 mic Hip Hop classic because of his skin. He did...(Slim Shady LP)
That’s like saying because the nba was predominantly white when it started out, Michael Jordan can’t be the goat…
It was white not because the best players were white, but due to racism. Also white people didn’t create basketball
Tiger Woods & Serena Williams
CAN NOT BE GOATS THEN 🤷♂️
Yes they can. Black people created sports. Whites tried to make them exclusive.
MY THOUGHTS: I'm starting to believe STAR on the Hip-Hop/Rap take: Hip-Hop/Rap WAS a culture - it HAD rules/perimeters!
BUT if Hip-Hop/Rap is a culture why is it getting more disrespect than other cultures (if it's "culture")?? 90-95% don't respect it as a "culture" frfr.. REMEMBER.. everything is a VIBE.
Eminem is the goat period.
MC Ren
He has 24 hrs to respond PROPERLY to BENZINO... 👑 Revoked. Cuz he's cooking M&Ms
Nope
em is trash
@@steppababynupethat was no diss that was trash
Music isn't based on skin color and all on culture. There are hip-hop/rap artists all around the world and becoming one of the biggest genres of music around the world. There are ghettos and people struggling across the globe, that's why they relate to rap music because it was they live every day.
Also, rap wouldn't be what it is today if it wasn't for the consumer. So, to say it's an "african american" thing is total bullshit. These rappers who agree with Dr.Umar should give their money back to fans cause something tells me 60-75% of they fan base aint black. Let's take NWA, for example, the number of records they sold when they dropped they album was insane. If you look up the stats, if only black people bought they album, each household would have had to buy something around the lines of 17 albums per household. That right there tells you that hip-hop didn't just resonate with the black communities but all communities across the board.
Im white and grew up in northern Ontario, Canada. The older generation of the time listened to rock and country, yet me and the generation i grew up with didn't as we couldn't relate to what they were saying. We never grew up in no farms or back road living. We grew up with drugs on the block, everyone trying to get theirs and willing to die over it, constantly worrying bout cops, friends dying over street politics or beefs, whole neighborhoods looking like it got ripped outta the CrackTown movie. With that being said, what music do you think we were going to be listening to, not country, not rock, not pop, not techno, we listened to rap cause it was the lifestyle and culture we knew.
I think a lot of people tend to place rap or hiphop under the "black umbrella" when in all reality its considered part of that struggle culture.
Your skin cokor doesnt determine your culture. Your lifestyle, your surroundings, and your environment determine the culture you are most likely to embrace, not your skin color.
48 hrs to respond to benzino or that goat bull 💩 is over. He has yet to PROPERLY respond to that or MGK... Better yet game. Has Eminem REALLY been battle tested other than Poppa Doc in 8 mile 🤔
He hasn't responded to mgk?
Hip hop’s biggest fans arent even black
Eminem is great but in reality if snoop Dogg never lost Dr Dre after Doggystyle he be the king over Eminem
He can’t out rap em so that’s BS
@@Cratossama stop your hating bullshit snoop Dogg only had Dre for one album if he had him longer Eminem wouldn't be where he is today
@@LamarrLewis-x6syou could say the same about Snoop. No Dre no Snoop. So you hatin.. they all can be lucky Dre put them out there. You can not compare Snoop to Em style wise but both icons for themselves and its your opinion who you like more. Both goats
Dr who ma?
I see Dr. Umar's point, but there is a certain contradiction that lies..
Nah.. it originated from impoverished black communities. Hip Hop is black energy. Like Dr Umar said.. other ppl can stop actin like they fw it at any moment.. but we're that for life. It's whatever. But Dr Umar is sayin we dont hold nothin sacred and everyone else will benefit and exploit us for it, while still makin a mockery as they have been.
HAHA WHY ASK BOSKOE ABOUT EM HAHAHA
Eminem is Not Top Anything African
I Know One Thing.....True Eminem Is A Goat But Right Now Benzino Got His Foot On His Neck🤷🏿♂️
I wonder if he regret getting face tats
Saying Eminem is not a GOAT because he's white is like saying Jordan can't be a GOAT because Basketball was invented by white people or Tiger isn't a GOAT because Golf was invented by white people. Blacks are only 12% of the U.S. population which means Hip-Hop wouldn't be the #1 genre in the world without the alliance, patronage, support and contributions of white people. There were also white B-boys in the beginning. Early on it was the production of Rick Ruben that helped propel the genre and its artist's careers. Artists such as Run DMC, Beastie Boys, L.L. and Geto Boys. At the end of the day Hip-Hop is an amalgamation of different cultures influenced by life in America. Hip-Hop transcends all the labels that keep us divided. There's only one race, the human race. Race or color is a construct that was purposely created by the 1% to keep people divided and easier to conquer.
Folks throw the word goat so much it doesn’t have the impact it once did…… PENNY WISE IS THE GOAT……smh…..
Everyone seems to forget the beasty boys started same time as run DMC so Umar a joke
And why are we talking about someones opinon on hip hop when he has nothing to do with hip hop of course he can have his opinon but why give a shit ?
Naw, that's black culture. They took everything else, our freedom, our music(shit like Elvis), our labor, naw. Eminem can't be the goat. That shit ain't right.
Dr Umar not HATING on Em I dig where he's coming from his stance is from a pro black perspective only he's not concerned with white people being a part of hip hop culture .Rap today is just Pop music meaning popular music
Separation is a buy product for a loser
Dr Grift
And latinos? Huh?
Lmao fr tried to slip that in there
Dr umar right in that case say vanilla ice is a goat for opening the door and beastie boys the best hip hop group . Lol
African and American and WHO ??? Y’all still telling the Latino lie 😂😂😂
What Has Eminem Done For Black People, He Has Built No Black Schools or Hospitals. I Rest My Case
Neither have you 😂😂😂
You gotta be trolliin! 🤣🤣
@brandonsteele4882 what u laughing g at GOOFY???
That was a ignorant comment. Just sayin
Why he gotta do something for black people???? Besides signing 50, g unit, d12. Either way stop making it avout race loser
Did this bozo say it started with Latinos?? Eminem is not goat but he's in the area code. I put the Beastie Boys in the top 3 of hip hop/rap
A person would have to be extraordinary to be a goat in another peoples culture. Michael Jordan is extraordinary, Serena Williams is extraordinary, Simone Biles is extraordinary. Eminem is not extraordinary there are hundreds of Eminem’s
That’s beyond a joke….
That taco example was a little far fetched tho lets be honest 😂
I think it was good cause be honest if a black or white dude told u they made the best tacos you'd need proof before you accept, so for a white in hip hop to be at the top he'd have to prove it which I'd say Em has done
He was dead right, the colour of your skin doesnt decide how good you are at something...
@@Straight-Outta-Nottinghamonly remedial white fools think race is about skin color
Wrong