I'm seeing a low to the ground FLEET deck being VERY successful here. With all the good goblin pirates and excellent ship vehicles were getting in U and R, I see them doing very well.
Scytheclaw Raptor is almost perfect for the Legacy Red Chalice Aggro with Ancient Tomb and City of Traitors. The toughness 3 leaves it vulnerable to Lightning Bolt-like removals, but it is still good there.
The relative lack of instants and sorceries is going to be interesting. Hopefully the number of spell like effects stapled to permanents is enough to keep the gameplay nice and interactive.
Just seeing that crafting allows you to use cards from the graveyard. That is going to make that mechanic really useful! You don't need to sacrifice anything. Just free graveyard value
One good use for Brass's tunnel grinder is if you also get the Bringer of the Last Gifts (put all graveyard creatures into play while sacrificing all other creatures in play). I built a fun deck on draftsim sealed where the goal is to survive to 8 mana burning and discarding through your deck with landcycles, creating treasures until find the bringer.
Zoyowa's Justice should be thought of as a weird flicker effect, not a polymorph. You should use it in response to removal on your creature, in response to a combat trick on your opponent's creature or to remove an aura, etc. You shouldn't be thinking of it purely as upgrading/downgrading a creature. That being said, 2 mana for half of Ephemerate still seems bad, especially with the crazy randomness. I'd say D or D+, not F.
You don’t always get a two for one for casting Geological Appraiser or anything else with Discover. I know I’m throwing out a hypothetical, but if they counter it, you don’t get the discover trigger.
Is has the best removal at common rate with Abrade, which in this set is insanely great, as Nizzahon said. Along side of that it has great creatures. Perhaps the only bad thing is that their God is just a 4/4 with trample, cause the ability is difficult to trigger in limited, especially the temple part
I think red looks like a pretty strong supporting color this time around. It has a lot of great cards though it doesn't really have a cohesive plan like white and black do so I imagine it's just gonna be a strong supplement for whatever the other color is trying to do a lot of the time.
@@kaiseremotion854 This is an interesting take. My interpratation has been white is the main artifact color and blue and red are more half and half between artifact and descend themes.
Zayowa's Justice was a clutch instant in my prerelease games. My opponent had assembled a huge flier from a 2cmc base creature, launched it at me ftw. Justice took it out. Don't care what he pulls for 2cmc. He's gonna be scooping next turn.
@@NizzahonMagicI think it's even better than that; the Temple's flip trigger requires anything red and includes multiple sources. Red shouldn't have any problems getting through on attacks in this set, but there are also a bunch of red cards at lower cost and rarity that incidentally damage opponents (Edit: Not to mention so many ways to buff Ojer's power!).
@@NizzahonMagicD'oh! I can't believe I missed that! I think I just saw "sources" as a confirmation that it could be anything, without registering the rest of the sentence. I hereby swear to slow down and triple-check before I comment! I failed on the ol' double-check. I still think it at least deserves a build-around B+ to Bomb-range grade in decks with a few or more ways to directly zap the dome, as it were.
Do the double faced cards with a cave on the back, Dowsing Device/Geode Grotto, count as a cave in the graveyard, or would the front be all that is considered?
@@joshhudson9839 thank you. Wasn't 100% since I missed most the 2 faced card heavy sets. Would've been nice to get some more cave value but it makes sense I guess
I’m sorry but there is no way idol of the deep king is a C+, 6 mana minimum for a shock and a mediocre equipment even as an artifact it isn’t a good card if it were 2 to play and 2 to craft it’s still mid honestly D+ would’ve been a nice rating for this card
@@NizzahonMagic see I could maybe a C flat more than a C+ but is the removal just that bad that as a 3 mana shock with a little upside enough to playable
@@NizzahonMagic I mean looking at other equipments plus shock your still paying 2-3 more than flat rate for a combo of the 2 cards plus the extra card needed
@codiehennigan6007 You aren't considering the upside of just being an artifact on the board in a format where that really matters. You're right the card isn't efficient overall, but it's still removal with upside. You don't have to use a real card to craft it, and the format is replete with cheap evasive creatures who carry the equipment well.
A note of appreciation: thank you for the correct pronunciation of the many tough card names of South American origin
I'm seeing a low to the ground FLEET deck being VERY successful here. With all the good goblin pirates and excellent ship vehicles were getting in U and R, I see them doing very well.
Scytheclaw Raptor is almost perfect for the Legacy Red Chalice Aggro with Ancient Tomb and City of Traitors. The toughness 3 leaves it vulnerable to Lightning Bolt-like removals, but it is still good there.
Saheeli's Lattice is particularly potent with the dinosaur land cyclers
THIS SET HAS RED?!?!? This is a good set 😎
I am pre-emptively naming this deck lettuce lands
The relative lack of instants and sorceries is going to be interesting. Hopefully the number of spell like effects stapled to permanents is enough to keep the gameplay nice and interactive.
Seems like a lot of the interaction is attached to artifacts
Just seeing that crafting allows you to use cards from the graveyard. That is going to make that mechanic really useful! You don't need to sacrifice anything. Just free graveyard value
Some of the cards here like Seismic Monstrosaur and Trumpeting Carnosaur seem like they could work really well with Saheeli's Lettuce
Can the trumpeting carnasaur discard itself at instant speed? It doesn't state it, but i am sure there is a rule for this kind of interaction.
Yes. Like all activated abilities, you can do it at instant speed unless stated otherwise
One good use for Brass's tunnel grinder is if you also get the Bringer of the Last Gifts (put all graveyard creatures into play while sacrificing all other creatures in play). I built a fun deck on draftsim sealed where the goal is to survive to 8 mana burning and discarding through your deck with landcycles, creating treasures until find the bringer.
Sounds interesting but unlikely to come together in a real draft sadly.
Zoyowa's Justice should be thought of as a weird flicker effect, not a polymorph. You should use it in response to removal on your creature, in response to a combat trick on your opponent's creature or to remove an aura, etc. You shouldn't be thinking of it purely as upgrading/downgrading a creature.
That being said, 2 mana for half of Ephemerate still seems bad, especially with the crazy randomness. I'd say D or D+, not F.
Those narrow of effects are always an F.
You don’t always get a two for one for casting Geological Appraiser or anything else with Discover. I know I’m throwing out a hypothetical, but if they counter it, you don’t get the discover trigger.
Only up to the Es and it seems red is really powerful.
red and black again. a tale as old as time.
scytheclaw raptor & seismic monstrosaur are definetly C+. Love the videos keep it up
Am I crazy or is red really good on this set
red good, red always good 👹
It was crazy good in eldraine too
Is has the best removal at common rate with Abrade, which in this set is insanely great, as Nizzahon said. Along side of that it has great creatures. Perhaps the only bad thing is that their God is just a 4/4 with trample, cause the ability is difficult to trigger in limited, especially the temple part
I don’t think you’re crazy lol
Red best
I think red looks like a pretty strong supporting color this time around. It has a lot of great cards though it doesn't really have a cohesive plan like white and black do so I imagine it's just gonna be a strong supplement for whatever the other color is trying to do a lot of the time.
i think blue is the other artifact colour isnt it?
@@kaiseremotion854 This is an interesting take. My interpratation has been white is the main artifact color and blue and red are more half and half between artifact and descend themes.
That Dracosaur is a bomb for sure.
Zayowa's Justice was a clutch instant in my prerelease games. My opponent had assembled a huge flier from a 2cmc base creature, launched it at me ftw. Justice took it out. Don't care what he pulls for 2cmc. He's gonna be scooping next turn.
Yep, even Fs work out in individual games sometimes. On the whole, the card is going to let you down.
red has great removal. heck i don't even dislike the sunfire torches. you can throw them at face if OP is stabilizing.
Question about Brass's Tunnel-Grinder: If you discard 3 permanents on the turn you play it will it trigger its descend and give you 3 counters?
No. It only gets a maximum of one counter per turn.
@@NizzahonMagic It's because it says descended, right?
@@randyrobineau2699 because its an if trigger, not a when trigger
Discover seems like such a fun mechanic. But I don't want to do it in drafts. Too risky and instead of having fun I can tilt
How is it risky? It always gives you something.
Ancestors aid will be god awful in my zada deck!
Ojer only works whit damage dealt to a player not creatures, so it’s a little bit worse than a B-
I am aware of that. Still think it's a B-.
@@NizzahonMagicI think it's even better than that; the Temple's flip trigger requires anything red and includes multiple sources. Red shouldn't have any problems getting through on attacks in this set, but there are also a bunch of red cards at lower cost and rarity that incidentally damage opponents (Edit: Not to mention so many ways to buff Ojer's power!).
@@sombat2788 It only counts noncombat damage, so attacks getting through is irrelevant.
@@NizzahonMagicD'oh! I can't believe I missed that! I think I just saw "sources" as a confirmation that it could be anything, without registering the rest of the sentence. I hereby swear to slow down and triple-check before I comment! I failed on the ol' double-check.
I still think it at least deserves a build-around B+ to Bomb-range grade in decks with a few or more ways to directly zap the dome, as it were.
Im only interested in the T rex that discover 5
Why was the pick indestructible? Makes little sense flavor wise, and it doesn't grant indestructible to the equipped creature.
Because a pick cant realy protect you the way a shield or armor does.
'Cus it's made of diamond, the most solid natural substance
Gruul dinos at prerelease for me
Why does the mouth on Scytheclaw Raptor feel so… weird?
Do the double faced cards with a cave on the back, Dowsing Device/Geode Grotto, count as a cave in the graveyard, or would the front be all that is considered?
They do not count as caves in the graveyard.
@@joshhudson9839 thank you. Wasn't 100% since I missed most the 2 faced card heavy sets. Would've been nice to get some more cave value but it makes sense I guess
@@griefbear2925 since its the back side, only the "faceup" side counts in the gy
Imagine if you got like 4 hit the mother lodes in a RG ramp deck...
I’m sorry but there is no way idol of the deep king is a C+, 6 mana minimum for a shock and a mediocre equipment even as an artifact it isn’t a good card if it were 2 to play and 2 to craft it’s still mid honestly D+ would’ve been a nice rating for this card
The data says that it's probably right around a C, maybe a C- if you want to be harsh.
@@NizzahonMagic see I could maybe a C flat more than a C+ but is the removal just that bad that as a 3 mana shock with a little upside enough to playable
@@NizzahonMagic I mean looking at other equipments plus shock your still paying 2-3 more than flat rate for a combo of the 2 cards plus the extra card needed
@codiehennigan6007 You aren't considering the upside of just being an artifact on the board in a format where that really matters.
You're right the card isn't efficient overall, but it's still removal with upside. You don't have to use a real card to craft it, and the format is replete with cheap evasive creatures who carry the equipment well.
Red is busted again.
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