Logitech G923 Trueforce Review - Just a new G29?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2020
- The new Logitech G923 Trueforce comes with a new set of features. Will The new Trueforce feature impress? Will this be a worth substitute or even an upgrade?
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Should I get it, it’s only 250 US dollars it’s on sale?
Still rocking my G27 since like 2013. No malfunctions whatsoever
Yeah, if you know how to set up the ffb and don't make the wheel clank like a lot of idiots do these wheels are really reliable.
@@Maartwo I still don't quite know how to set up the FFB honestly, I just copy the setups of people online and go with one that feels good and doesn't peak all the time and make it do a bunch of noise.
@@Freezorgium that's how you take care of your wheel, good thinking 💪
I'm still rocking my G25.
got my G25 in 2006,used it for thousands of hours and it still runs perfect.. been waiting for a real Logitech upgrade since I got the g25,maybe the next one in 6 years time......
Good wheel, good improvements and features, bad price.
Logitech users don't really have any reason to upgrade to this and should just go for thrustmaster, fanatec or something else.
People fresh into simracing looking for cheap and/or good wheel will go for g29 or t300.
Basically they made a good wheel for no one.
So you consider 340€ on a controller cheap?
@@Luminaria999 You might want to take a comprehensive reading course.
Hey- if I'm a first time buyer of a racing wheel, should I just get this 923, or get the 920?
@@arjunbhide6456 g923 is a bit better all around, g920 is cheaper, ask yourself which sounds better.
@@Salutifer0us Thanks. Leaning more towards G923 as it’s the newer one
I bought my G29 and shifter in January and it costed 180 pounds. The T150 Pro was ten pounds more, but I wanted to try a shifter and ten pounds more without a shifter considering the shifter is 140 pounds is pricey. The G29 with shifter at 180 pounds is a steal
Yep same here. Got the G920 bundle 180. Great timing lol. Although im patiently waiting till next Jan so i can sort the bloody brake out as im losing time in ACC. The shifters great driving the Escort RS in AC and PC2. Is your brake still standerd?
@@chilli-soup Same here, boxing day last year Currys/PC world had offer for G920 and shifter for £180. I use PC and the Logitech software can help with the brake pedal a lot. I have it so when the brake hits the rubber stopper with medium force it brakes fully. Without setting it up in Logitech settings you need mega force to reach full braking.
@@chilli-soup when you say standard, do you mean it’s basically the same
@@chilli-soup mine feels the same
You have yet to feel the Trueforce of Logitech. This isn't even the G29s final form!
made me laugh out loud
True force is just to feel the engine rumble through the wheel , I already get this as I bolted a small sub woofer to the back of my rig(its wood and transfers the bass rumble very good ) onto the same platform the wheel base sits on....I feel the engine idle and rev ...its a cheap way for "true force" (which gave me the idea to try this in the first place lol
Quite smart ngl
To be fair I'm quite happy they put this out, since the G29 would be cheaper, not to mention the G25
Unfortunately, they didn't do this earlier before I bought my G920 with The Rona markup. 😫
It is now on Amazon with shifter for 400 pounds. I bought a G29 with shifter for 180 pounds at the end of January. It is definitely too expensive
@@adammodan8030 Where did you bought the G29 ? Amazon? Thks
This wheel is more focused on newcomers to sim racing or drifting, whatever the case may be. I recently upgraded from the G29 to the Thrustmaster T300RS GT with the shifter. I automatically knew that if I was going to upgrade (being that Logitech wheels aren’t really that good for drifting) I’d take the thrustmaster route or Fanatec. Btw I peep the Otamatone. I have one too lol
I have a G29 and after watching this review I don't think it's worth the upgrade to this new wheel. There aren't that many differences and its price (when compared to its competition) certainly doesn't help. Abraço, Ricardo!
back when this console generation started I was forced to change the wheel, and due to not that much choice I bought T300 RS.
It works, I had one problem even contacted support, but software reinstall solved it.
As for Logitech - I had a 9 year good run with Driving Force Pro. Damn this wheel was used so much that finally it broke. First one of the microstics in the paddle shifter, later on clams.
But I had a lot of fun and there were countless hours I played with this wheel.
back then when I bought it the biggest advantage was price.
Later on the the DFGT was a good upgrade but I never switched as my DFP was working just fine.
have a nice time gaming!
Some thoughts: some users have reported reliability problems with Thrustmaster wheels. Going for Trueforce now is becoming an early adopter, not enough titles have implemented the tech yet. Logitech wheels have gone on sale frequently in the past. Maybe hold off for a sale before picking up a G923. The Thrustmaster T150 pro is another alternative as it gives good pedals unlike the regular T150. I am using a Microsoft 360 steering wheel with Drivehub but am considering this or a Thrustmaster upgrade in the near future. This video helps me to decide. Great review, thanks!
Keep up the great content man!
The Logitech shifter is the same that in the G29 and G920?
+random callsign - I like that you stated that the unit was provided by Logitech, and that this might have impact on your judgement.
But what really like is that you simply compare the available options and prices. It is always good to present the alternatives.
Question, why did you rout the cables like that😭
Props for tje dream theater tee shirt
Is the previous gen shifter compatible, or ar they going to come out with a new one?
compatible
It helps to take the plastic spacer from clutch to make it easier to use brake without hitting clutch
I’m surprised that they didn’t add one more USB port for a handbrake. That was my biggest problem when I got my G920
cant you use an external one
Robert Smith console users can’t
@@kaidokiller ahh :(
one reason why pc is bettr ;p
Robert Smith lol yeah I’ve been working on building one so I could play Assetto Corsa
@@kaidokiller can you use a usb hub?
Does the brake pedal still have that stupid rubber thingy? I'm thinking of getting a progressive spring for my G920 and ditching the rubber shit.
No.
@οὐτόπος they want to simulate brake in real like.. But its kinda wrong and too stiff
@@bamboo9666 Its not too strong, you need about 122 KG of brake force to stop a racecar at 300 km/h.
@@reneengelke3218 but i only drive prius under 50km/h in FH4 :(
G923 has that spring you mention instead
The cables can be (should be?) routed around the horizontal bar. Keeps it sturdy and jerks to the cable won't pull on the connector. Also neat to store excess cable length.
Question from a G27 owner - is upgrading to a T300 RS GT a decent idea? Mostly for drifting at this stage.
As G29 owner I'd say if drifting is your main thing and you have money to spare - definitely get the T300 as it's a faster, stronger wheel, which will make drifting a breeze compared to logitech. They made the G923 faster and it's really improved in drifting from what I've seen, but like said in vid - don't bother, get T300.
Drifting with a G27 is much harder than drifting in real life so definitely upgrade to a belt drive soon.
Have anyone tried it on PS5 or XSX? My question is, if I buy the G923 (Playstation version), would it work on both PS5 and Xbox Series X?
I love that tshirt
Great video brother
If Fanatec was available by other suppliers such as Amazon or Box I'd get the CSL elite. I have a Thrustmaster T300RS GT and it's good for the price
Looking to get my first wheel , any help will be appreciated , looking at the g29/g923/t300rs gt , the g923 is $130 more than the g29 and the t300 is $70 more .
Check my video on that
@@randomcallsign will check your page for the vid thanks
What is going on with the sound?
I think he was recording the recording of his voice, so it's duplicated and slightly phased
Is it compatible with PS5? And G29 is it compatible as well? If both do then G29 with a gear shifter is better.?!
what's the wheel range of this 923? 900 or 1080?
900
@@randomcallsign thanks callsign
i dont get the "true force" some pepole say when they turn on tureforce in game with a g29 they still get the feeling, and g29 also has dual clutch
There are hardware differences between g29 and g923 to make trueforce work, so it's unlikely it will work or even work well on g29. G29 has no dual clutch, which is just a software thing, but it would need to be programmed into the driver by logitech, and that's not going to happen.
I can buy it now for 284 do you think that is a good deal?
(€284 euro’s)
Can you use the shifter with the g923?
yes
I just ordered one online tonight an it was $597 NZD for one an then a shifter on the side haha it was on sale aswell 100 odd off lmao
Thanks for being honest
did you find the guy for the giveway or its still on?
I did find him, yes.
@@randomcallsign :)
HELL YEAH DREAM THEATER!!!
Dream Theater t-shirt! You sir deserve a LIKE this big.
well, i wont defending the logitech, but if we compare that for price of about 400E you can get the whell and the shifter, and the Thrustmaster are the same price with out shfter wich is 180-200E+, the cost of t300 going to be about 600E if you want a full set, i think logitech is a good choise if you want a set and wont go for upgrades, or wont spending 1000E/$ on wheel
I dont know if I could ever go for a logitech wheel product
Omg Dreamtheater, haven't listened to them in decades :}
Is the only difference between the PS5 and XBox version the button graphics? Can I use the same wheel on both this generation?
yes
@@randomcallsign Awesome. Found a tweet from Logitech clarifying this as well. Keeping a PS5 and series X in the game room and being able to share a racing seat is why I ordered this to replace my otherwise perfectly-fine G29 just now. Great review!
Shoutout for Dream Theater
The G29 is completely fine for me, and if this has the same components it will surely have even the same problems. The pedals and their damn crappy potentiometers. Too bad I found out about this common problem when it occured to me too and no review on amazon was mentioning it. The G29 will be my last logitech wheel if they don't start using more quality ones. Thank god in ACC I can set minimum and maximum limits, but it took a while for me to understand why the fuck I started having braking problems and my accelerator started to stutter (actually, this was how I understood what the problem was and noticed the spikes in the settings with the pedals fully pressed or unpressed). There's no chance I will buy the almost exactly same wheel at that price to have the same problems. Also, I never understood why they stopped using the technology of their wheels from the last 90s and first 2000s, it was way better and smoother than the classic ffb system.
This wheel is good to people who plays i Racing and asseto competizione
It is always the same G25 with some minus improvements.
It is not actually a problem to rebrand the same wheel every 5 years since 2005: with this, Logitech can keep his state for entry level customers at every generations.
The problem is that Logitech wheels are overpriced: they started with G25 at 250€ (reasonable price), after that they put out the G27 with better FFB (due helical system) but with the loss of sequential mode on the shifter - 340€ (dunno if the improvement can justify the price tough). After this, the G29 came out with no significant FFB improvements, the rim got toons of buttons but it also have a really ugly playmobil-style, brake pedal got a rubber stopper for progressive function and the shifter can only be bought separately - 410€+60€ (at dayone) but hopefully now you can buy it on Amazon around 230€+40€ (still overpriced by me).
Now this G923 with "TrueForce" that, according about what I've read around, it seems to be just a new system that can prevent FFB clipping and no more. So basically there is a software improvement but, due gears system limitations, totally no worth the price (410€) and it would be nice if they at least make a new shifter with the 7th gear plus the come back of the sequential function.
This wheel should be 200 bucks. It should compete with the T150. Not the T300 RS. The 300 is miles better for the same price. The share button never works on the first touch you have to keep hitting it.almost forgot the shifter is junk..
T300 FTW
Dreamtheater t-shirt !!!!!
Happy i bought the t300rs instead of waiting for this.
When i first heard a new g series was comming up,was interseted cause my g27 is dying and don't really wanted a g29/g920 because of the 2 steps brake.Then i saw the first clip of it,i was like "oh wait a minute" all the same,just a slight improvement electronicaly and that's it.Where we going there... At that price was certainly not buying one.This week,i found a used t300rs gt,the fan cooler is noisy but a bit of grease and it would be fine.And if the fan die,i wil cut a bit of plastic and replace it with a bigger one.Intesresting fact.
In Pc2 with the Bentley gt3 on redbulring with the g27 my best time was 1.29.055 Today with the t300 i do 1.29.176. My poorly g27 still somehow good lol
put some grease on the threads of the mounting screw
@@118Shadow118 Don't get your idea.I take the fan a part,the noise is coming from the axle vibrating in the housing due to lack of lubicant.
@@dederen1492 sorry, that wasn't related to the fan, just a general tip for the T300, I should've specified.
It's not to reduce noise, but to make the mounting screw smoother so it lasts longer and it's easier to tighten and loosen it.
I bought my T300 new, and the screw was kinda sticking a bit. If you got yours used, maybe the screw would've been worn in, but it still wouldn't hurt to grease it
@@118Shadow118 Ah ok now i see.i mounted it on a desk with the clamp.The previous owner has thighten that screw too much and it got loose,so i placed a piece of wood betwen the base and the clamp to past the area without threads and fix it.But something odd compare to the g27,the base don't stay in place even with those rubber pads.Maybe my solution reduce the clamping effect.
@@dederen1492 could be, there's rubber pads on both the wheelbase and the clamp, if you're putting a piece of wood between them, that's basically like one side not having those rubber pads, that piece of wood is gonna make it easier to slide on the table.
Are the threads only missing on the screw or in the wheelbase too? If it's just the screw, it should'nt be too hard to find a replacement
so they basically charging 400€ for the same hardware with upgraded firmware. Wow...
Well, I am using a gamepad, now. So...this will be an upgrade for me.
I would wait for a sale or buy T300 RS GT. If not a G29/920
These wheels are amazing to start with, don’t let anybody tell you different. A lot of pro sim racers use them.
I'll take Fanatec
I have a 920 and don't see a reason to buy this unless it drops in price
*I CAN FINALLY RIP OFF MY HANDS WITH FORCE FEEDBACK WITHOUT DIRECT DRIVE*
haha i guess ill still be buyin a g290 for 150£
G932 coming soon. Get the LieForce ForceFeedBack. Name twists your tongue on purpose to act professional
The price comparison is a little unfair on your part. Comparing a £350 923 with a £369 T300 isn't the full picture.
The 923 comes with an improved pregressive brake pedal. Standard T300 doesn't. To get that with the T300 costs another £189. So, that makes the T300 equivelant to the 923, £210 more expensive.
T300 may be able to create a better package, but when comparing standard T300. 923 has better button layout and better pedal set. And, much cheaper than the T300 with load cell option.
Price is still good and justifies it's pricing compared against the T300.
The t300rs gt has the 3 pedal set. Any way, a set of t3pa are cheaper than 189.
@@randomcallsign Fair enough, didn't realise the RS GT wheel came with better than standard pedals.
It's the T-LCM pedals that are £189.
They're the load cell pedals rather than the progrssive one's with the RS-GT and 923.
My apologies ;-)
Could you say "same exact as before" one more time.
omelette du fromage
Can u buy a gear?
huh?
@@randomcallsign shifter?
yes
The one on the Thumbnail is not the same in the Video 😂 look At the Logo under the Big G
yes. it's a promotial picture. whats the problem?
@@randomcallsign Wanted to see the Xbox one 😪
It's exactly the same wheel
@@randomcallsign Welp I guess it is...
5:29
Anyone think the G29 pedals are better with a rig though? Because you'll be able to press as hard as you want, as intended without the pedal base slipping across the floor?
If I'm correct, the reason for the progressive spring in the brake pedal this time round was due to the consumer feedback from the G29 brake rubber stop pedal. Being the pedal base slipping across floors as a result of having to involve more pressure when applying the brake, due to the rubber stop (which I think with a rig it gives a more realistic breaking experience my theory is) in the G29 model. The progressive spring with the new model just provides a lighter resistance as I can only guess statistically most users have the pedal bases on their floors which means less chance of the pedal base sliding or moving across the floor or carpet or whatever, maybe?
Therefore, as I have a rig to securely bolt the pedal base to, I propose maybe using the G29 pedal set with the G923 wheel for a more optimum experience if you have a rig ? Or do you think the progressive spring is just simply better, thoughts please?
$400🤦🏽♂️.... I’m still rocking a controller 🤣🤣🤣 it has all kinds of force feed back 🤔🤷🏽♂️🤣🤣🤣....... It’s either this or fanatec
Pull me Under 🤘
This wheel is just overpriced, they only made this true force thing is for a prize increasing.
I have the 920 and everytime i use too much force for counter steering i got the feedback if the gear in it just skips some parts (or that belt). That made me pulling the FFB to nearly a minimum, which is just worse for drifting or powersliding cars and the 923 didn't change gear in it. The best thing is quality of the build, Thrustmaster gives you more plastic and a two pedal mount for atleast the same money or more. This was my second one i got from Logitech because my first one got a Update crash from their own software... I cant recommend this wheel at all.
Playtime is around by the 3K hours or more.
u must have a good job to get all these wheels lol
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I miss the early days of TH-cam where people made reviews of products they actually purchased for themselves. Every darn video these days by content creators make reviews on products sent to them by the companies.
And even so I say to viewers to not to buy this wheel because there's no value for it at this price. 😬
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