Logitech G923 VS. G29/G920 🎯SHOOTOUT🎯 WORTH the upgrade? Deep dive comparison!!
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- We compare the new Logitech G923 to the previous generation Logitech G29 force feedback wheel and pedal set. What's new? What's changed? Is it better and worth upgrading? Watch the video and I'll answer these questions. Thanks for watching!
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00:00 Intro
01:18 Comparing the wheelbases
02:41 Comparing the pedals
05:42 Powering them up and overview
07:26 Force feedback and dead zone
11:16 G923 TRUEFORCE
12:22 Wheel noise comparison
14:14 G923 Dual-clutch
15:27 Brake pedal comparison
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@wardog8u2xbox360 Thanks and welcome onboard. I have thought about such a wheel comparison, it will be a good one to do. Not sure when that will be possible as I'll have to save up a bit to buy a T300.
@@SimRacingCorner
hi i just bought the logitech g29, i would like to know if it will be compatible for future ps5 games like g923.
@@marilenacoccioli8915 Technically yes, as the G29 is PS5 compatible. The developer still needs to add this wheel to their game support, but one should assume that's a safe bet as Logitech wheels are very popular.
Literally reviewed and showed all/more than I could ever ask for. Thank you for the detailed showings of the aesthetics as well to the camera and different angles. This definitely helped compared to the stock images on websites and just some play throughs. Very thorough!
Thank you so much, this is by far the best review/comparison of these products I have seen.
You are so welcome!
Great review overall...my only suggestion ( and I don't know if this is true in your neck of the woods like it is in the US ) is that you used slightly different wheels. The 923 is the new version of the 29, that's quite true. But it's also the new version of the 920 ( the Xbox model ), and it adds extra controls that the 920 didn't offer. It would have been good to touch on what those do and how they work as it's a definite improvement, and honestly the 29 and 920 should have been identical instead of giving one console 7 more functions.
Great review mate... Well done!!! ... Found the G923 in 249 euros!!No doubts about my choice!! Great wheel!!
This is by far the most detailed video I found to decide which one do you wanna buy. Have you ever considered making one between tmx pro (because you have one) or t300 rs Vs Logitech. Because with this detail, I can't find better job. Even with something so important as sound dif or force (between belts from thrustmaster, or gears from Logitech).
So with all being said, I just wanna thank you for your time and effort to give us this information, because I believe that you just helped a lot of people to decide which one to buy.
Thanks for the feedback, I do appreciate that. I do plan to run a TMX Pro VS G923 comparison, not sure when. I'm still yet to review the TMX Pro in it's own video. I need to spend some more time using it first. T300 content also is a possibility in the future too. Would love to look at Fanatec wheels as well. But yeah, I need to get through the TMX Pro first before moving onto other wheels.
@@SimRacingCorner ahahah so many wheels, looks like someone is going to be busy 😂
@@tiagofrankenstein I have so many things lined up, a good portion of 2021 is already covered. The TMX Pro is near the top of the list though as I have been sitting on that one for too long.
@@SimRacingCorner would be very appreciated. I'm considering t150 pro vs g29 (and maybe g923 but the price here is a bit high)
I do love the true force feel of the engine through the wheel in Grid. Wish there were more games utilizing this feature.
Deadzone tests at 8:00 were just simply performed with wheel connected to pc without any games open or somehow different? I just got my G923 and it behaves just like G29 for example in GT7 menu. Thank you.
Awesome review and comparison!!! .. 5 Star and very technical!!!
Thank you for aiding me for making my decision
Great comparison video! Do you know if the new progressive brake spring could be installed in the older pedals? It sounds like they are basically the same thing minus the spring vs rubber block thing, so the new pedals should be as easy as replacing the spring and block from the G29 pedals with a new spring yes?
Yes, it's easy to change the brake spring and remove the rubber. The fundamental design of the pedals hasn't changed since their introduction with the G25. Plenty of disassembly videos out there.
If You want an underlying resistance from the motor, try one of the old momo one. The g29 is quite the improvement.
In regards to the leather on the wheel, I think it's just personal preference. I think it looks more genuine when it has the wrinkles. It may also be because the leather is thicker. I personally like that look and feel
Hi Jeremy. This comment isn't related to the wheels you're showcasing here. With the Logitech C920/22 webcams selling at a premium atm, do you have any recommendations for cheaper alternatives?
Hey Barry, sorry I can't offer advice on that one, my main webcam used for all my recordings is a Logitech Brio, along with a C920 as my backup. I picked up the Logitech C920 in a Black Friday sale 2018 for £25. Last year BF, they were super cheap as well. If you can hangfire for this year's sale I reckon they will be on sale again. Logitech run big discounts over Black Friday. Any good alternative brand to Logitech webcams are not cheap either. And those random unfamiliar brands all over Amazon, well it's a complete gamble.
When not plugged in does the G29 have slight play with slight turn left and right or just me?
It has a gear drive so thats the play between the gears meshing. Its normal :)
What USB port do you plug your wheel in to the 2.0 or 3.0 or 3.1?
2.0 or 3.0. Haven't tried 3.1
I just bought a G923 almost brand new for half the price, so really looking forward to get it spinning...
I have just bought the g920 and am happy with it I play ATS/ ETS2
Good afternoon from Brazil, in the translation I was confused at 8:10 Force feedback and dead zone, in the new model (923) the Dead zone is less than or equal to the old generation (g29), right?
Hi there, the G923 no longer has the deadzone.
I had a G923, no deadzone, great pedals, rev lights are cool, Trueforce feels great in ACC, worth buying. I switched to TX+Sparco competition+T3PA only because I needed something belt driven to reduce the rattling noise (it kept on waking my kid up).
Great video - very useful comparison. I too just upgraded from a G29 to a G923 and I'd love to see a video of how you setup the wheel in Dirt Rally 2. I found the wheel calibration confusing in DR2 as there is unfortunately to direct support for the G923 within DR2.
Anyhoo, thanks for a great video - subbed
Welcome to the channel dude. My G923 is packed away at the moment as it's not my main wheel. When I have a chance I'll look at the possibility of a G923 setup video as a few people have asked the same sort of question for other games too.
I am not really seeing why the upgrade from the g29 of g923?
If someone were going from the g27 to the g923, I would totally see that.
@@robertt9342 Sharper, more detailed and more agile FFB, slightly better pedals, more buttons on the XBOX version, dual clutch software. I had to sell my G29 last year, and I was thinking of buying another G29 at the end of this year, but I'm very inclined towards buying the G923 instead.
Hi! Do you feel the g923 lighter than the g29? I have both and I just bought the g923 and it feels much lighter in Assetto Competizione.
Yes I do, I cover this in the video,
@@SimRacingCorner Hi there!! So less FFB? Thats good or bad? thanks!
@@zambination11 im guessing less resistance is better especially for drifting. G29 has the ffb of a real car at around 40% so you wont need that high ffb anyway. At least comparing to my car
Great video, mate! I live in Turkey and have been looking for a racing wheel. The G29 costs 360$, G923 440$ and the TMX Pro 500$. Which one would you recommend? I'm leaning more towards the G923 but wanna hear your opinion.
Thanks. I would recommend the G923, it's worth the extra over the G29. I'm currently in early testing with a TMX Pro for a future review, and I prefer the G923.
@@SimRacingCorner G923 over the TMX Pro? I take your word for it mate :)
@@KhazAlp Yes, I'm leaning toward the G923 over the TMX. As I said I'm still in the early testing of the TMX right now so it's an early impression, not a full-formed comparison. I will add Logitech wheels are very reliable, so long-term it should last longer than the TMX.
@@SimRacingCorner Thanks a bunch :) Looking forward to the review!
hangisini aldın kanka g923 aldınmı mutlumusun
Good work , thanks.
Welcome 👍
Is the force feedback stronger? Or still weak? I feel on the g29 it’s a little light. I love the strength of the old driving force gt. It doesn’t make sense that old wheel feels better with feedback and strength
The G923 uses the same motors and power supply as the G29. It's the same FFB strength, but I cover the difference in FFB output in the video in great detail.
I’d think the dfgt is of equal power, possibly even less than the 923 or 29.
At 8:29, you begin to say that the G923 turns more smoothly. Could this be due to software? Does it vary between games?
The smoother rotation is replicated across all games. The same settings where used on both wheels.
@@SimRacingCorner Thanks.
So why are all gaming steering wheels so small? Do they make wheels as big as read life car steering wheels?
A larger wheel increases leverage and reduces the force feedback strength. More powerful wheelbases can cope with larger heavier wheel rims.
damn why does no one make a noise test in dirt rally with the wheel :/
every loudness test ive seen on youtube is in games where they turn only a few degrees
because since im a really big rally fan
i need to hear the fbb noise for dirt rally so i can think to buy logitech or thrustmaster
my main bet why only a ~few~ youtubers make a loudness test in dirt rally
because they are bad at it
but besides the loudness test
very great review man
i liked that you metioned the deadzone that i didn't even know about : )
safe to say from all the 10+ reviews ive seen about the wheel
this is the best one of all of them
hope you earn more subscribers soon man
you deserve it
I picked KartKraft as it's the noisiest game as far producing the most rattle from the wheel. As for Dirt Rally, it's produces much less rattle. Maybe 1/4 as much rattle.
@@SimRacingCorner oh then its fine
thanks for responding!
@@IsandJako No worries.👍
I'm considering a Logitech. I currently own a entry-level sim racing wheel which is a 150 dollar Thrustmaster. It has been able to do the trick so far but now that my ranking is becoming higher it isn't cutting it anymore, the precision just cannot go up against the premium wheels. So I'm considering G923, recommendations?
try thrustmaster t300 ferrari alcantara its better than g923 and it feels like mini csl elite
@@OneLasShortt expensive, I'm assuming he has a budg3t
Are the G920 brake pedals super hard to press down? I bought one, but could not stop the car in F1 2020. Ended sending it back, but wondering if I received a defective unit?
That sounds normal
@@SimRacingCorner I'm thinking about getting the G923 since the brake pedal seems to be a little bit better and not have the rubber stopper in it. I like the G920 except the brake pedal. And being on console, I'm unable to use the Logitech software...
You will find the G923 brake is much more comfortable if you're struggling with the G920
@@SimRacingCorner Okay, cool. I may go with the G923 then. Thanks!
@@superman37876 how is it?
That was a great review! But i still confused with my choice.. G29 or T150 Pro.. Can you guys tell me which one is better for the first time steering wheel?
There is very little between them. The G29 has a higher quality wheel rim. I prefer the T3PA pedals that come with the T150 Pro. T150 force feedback is quieter and no deadzone. G29 is going to be more durable over the years. Basically pros and cons with either wheel.
@@SimRacingCorner thanks for the answer, i appreciate that 👌🏻
@@midoriyaizuku4974 No worries. A week ago I published my TMX Pro review, and I've already been thinking about making G29 vs. TMX Pro comparison video at some point. I have a couple of other projects on go, but I hope to get this done.
@@SimRacingCorner that would be a great comparison! Because im considering to choose between G29/TMX Pro/T150 Pro for my PC.
Of course I'll be waiting for the vidio!
I don’t have neither.... but at this price plus the price of the open wheel makes me wonder am I better off with just getting a fanatec 🤔🤷🏽♂️✌🏽💯
Just get fanatec if you got bread like that to spend
@@sodokami6347 sticking to this controller for now 🤣🤣🤣 ... I feel you though YaHurd
@@eldominici3732 yeah me too but I’m saving up for fanatec though
@@sodokami6347 same here kid 🤣🤣🤣.... now if LogiTech drops an open wheel at the same price then ION know lololol
I think the G923, it's not a revolution but more a evolution of the nice G920/G29... Let's said a 2.0 version, especially in the Xbox One platform. They start at the base with something good and put it a little bit better and more polish at the end.
Le true force fait un bruit monstrueux pour avoir eu les deux le 920 est mieux
Very informative video spoiled slightly by far to many adverts .
Thanks Andy, I've manually removed some of the ad breaks. The YT auto setting went overboard.
TH-cam is going crazy on freaking ads lately
@@luizarthurbrito I know and I’m old (40) Lol and I don’t know how to use TikTok but I think it might be worth looking into
At 9:00 how did you film the hand shots?
th-cam.com/video/GOunKhqx-q0/w-d-xo.html
@@SimRacingCorner thank you! Merry Late Christmas btw
U can change the force required to max out the brake in the control panel or something with the g29/g920 so if ur buying the new one from what I’ve seen not worth it
are you sure? because i want to buy one of them but idk what to get the G923 or G29? the thing I'm worried about is the brake being hard. please help!! and If you can how do i?
@@qersise1606 I’m also in the same boat, any advice for me?
@@simbavisuals g29, just take out the rubber thing if it's too hard, it's just 2 screws and boom it's out
If i want to huy one i dont have either for me i can get the G920 for 250 and the G923 for 400 which should i get
The current price of the G923 is around the same price as the Thrustmaster T300, which I feel is better than the G923. That's what I would get for that money. At 250 the G290 is great for price/performance. I would like to see the G923 closer to that price and it will be perfect.
@@SimRacingCorner The problem for me is I'm buying primarily for xbox support & the thrustmaster sets don't currently have the 3 pedal sets available anywhere(which if they were I think would be a comparatively better value at this price point idk) & who knows how long until they come back in stock. I'm afraid that the G920 brake will just be too hard for me to use effectively. I'm trying to decide if it's worth another $100 for the G932 (its $350 for me vs $250 for the G920) - I really want to play more driving sims but the controller just doesn't feel right.
@@Trixilly You can easily remove the rubber piece out of the G920 brake pedal which will remove that problem for you.
@@SimRacingCorner I checked on the T300's and seems like many people have issues with inner circuits frying up on them or just malfunctioning and some with no issues but I'm swaying more towards the G923 because it comes with a 2 years hardware warranty through Logitech!
@@peterwho9380 Logitech definitely owns the crown for reliability. But it's difficult to fully know with Thrustmaster wheels, it's possible they sell more than Logitech so the failure rate could be exaggerated by volume.
Thanks mate. Haven’t owned a wheel before and been stuck wondering which model to buy, g923 is on special this week which is $100 dollars less than the g29, making it even harder to decide, thinking that the g29 is better cause it cost more, but after watching this, definitely buying the g923. Thank you.
Glad I could help
@@SimRacingCorner bought it last Friday, so happy with it!!
how much did you buy it for?@@billyflavell5295
Gr8 video
Thanks!
8:22 - Regarding the always present "friction force" in the G29/G920 - I'm under the impression that we're talking about a driver issue (one of the many) with the newer LGS/LGH revisions (makes you wonder how much of it is due to the release of the newer model.. 🤔) This is not an issue present with an older LGS revisions on the G29/G920 wheels (I've learned this the hard way doing numerous fresh Windows installs during the course of multiple days and it was a frustrating and infuriating lengthy tedious process.. )
Can I ask which version of LGS you used? Is it possible to install it without doing a fresh install of windows if you already have g hub?
@@Okatogurui I'm on LGS 8.87.116 (you might be ok with up to LGS 9.02.65 as it's pre 2020 although I haven't tried it - I'm not in the mood for a potential fresh Win install)
Same goes for LGH - you might get away with pre 2020 versions although I couldn't tell, haven't got enough time to install so many..
The only thing that got me going was a fresh windows install and this old LGS version alone. I've tried any other combination of repairing windows, or trying to clean up drivers installations, but no luck. I might try LGS 9.02.65 if I ever plan on a fresh Windows install..
For now my FFB works properly in older games (no friction force constantly on) my Rev lights work in all supported sims and seems like disconnecting the wheel or rebooting doesn't magically make it disappear in "Devices and Printers" or turn into an unrecognized device.
Ordered the G920 for Xbox, and it seemed like the brake pedal was impossible to press down. Wondering if there was something wrong with the rubber stop inside the pedal?
Are you 10 or weigh 30kg?
Look up video on how to mod it to be easier to press. Tons of them on TH-cam
@@danielm.3403 Yes
@@superman37876 you just weak as hell
Good review i had second hand g920 wheel it was alright but g923 I brought it brand new i love the brake pedals now and on grid i love it
have a g25 & g920, think i'll wait for the gX20
Tf is the gX20
Did you happen to notice if the g923 suffers from the same dial glitching as the G29 where the mfd dial will not work while the wheel is moving even very slightly?
I can't I noticed this problem on either wheel
Specifically in Gran Turismo sport with the G29, I wasn't able to change the fuel mapping unless I held the wheel perfectly still, which often caused me to running the walls. I ordered the g923 today anyway, so whether it's fixed or not I'm still getting it, but I was hoping it was fixed.
Fair enough, maybe it's just a GT Sport issue, I run a PC setup so I don't have experience outside of this sphere.
Ooh, ok, thanks anyway
For anyone wondering about this too, I'm not finding any info online either, they did fix it. I can change my fuel map while turning the wheel. Definitely worth the upgrade if you play GTS.
So what do you recommend g29 or g923?
Watch the video! I've answered that there.
What an answer!
I just got a g923 and I love it. It’s perfect for me. If I ever want to upgrade I will but I think it’s a great wheel.
Im concidering it so can u tell me what games are u using it for on whic platform and how does it perform?
What handbrake are you using ?
Heusinkveld Sim Handbrake
If not worth the upgrade is it worth a first purchase? The G923 that is. I'm getting a wheel for my PS5 to get ready for GT7
Maybe check out my recent T248 vs. G923 video as they are the same price. th-cam.com/video/vexwhu9B5dQ/w-d-xo.html
man i sold my g27 cose that stupid ffb loose center, but am still thinking about G923 and Thrustmaster TX, i believe the TX is smoother BUT the price is almost double plus the logitech shifter is 60euros thrustmaster is 190, am not sure does the TX worth for that big price difference
The TX has stronger, more detailed FFB than the G923. If you play sim driving games you will appreciate the difference and benefit that makes. If you play arcade racing games then that won't matter and the G923 is just fine.
@@SimRacingCorner am little afraid that TX have the same "dead zone" ffb like the g29 and older logitech wheels, do you know?
@@oskarmihalovic3903 It does not, I've reviewed the TX th-cam.com/video/um4stxL8lGs/w-d-xo.html
Not many games use the true force feature
Has this closed the gap to the T300RS??? Currently the G923 is $50 cheaper...
Yes, but not by enough, the T300 is still better.
Thank you!!
Is the G29 compatible with the Ps5?
Yes
T300rs gt or g923 and why ?
The T300 has double the power (better FFB) and swappable wheel rims. So the T300.
Can you connect the g923 to ps4?
Yes, there are two versions of the G923, One for Xbox, one for PS. You just need to buy the PS edition of the wheel.
sooo G923 are actually same product just change stickers??
No
In Colombia, the g923 only costs 40€ more than the g29. And it's almost impossible to find any Thrustmaster wheel here.
Same in Croatia
I wont be upgrading for no other reason than there's 2 buttons less at the bottom centre of the new wheel and I have all 3 of those mapped so it would mean using more keyboard keys which defeats the object for me
@@alwinayre plus PlayStation has the better racing game in Gran Turismo
The PS version of the 923 has those buttons just as the g29 did. Only the xbox version doesn't have the share and options buttons.
both are garbage I tried both and returned them. The only good mid level wheel is the t300. These logitech wheels make horrible grinding sounds when giving driving feedback
ETS2 Video Please
Basically the same wheel, old technology since G25. I have a G29 myself which i bought new for £170 about 5 years ago and still going. If you want a first wheel save yourself some money and get the G29. Logitech are still trying to sell a G29 at the same price it was when it first came out £329 . Here in the uk you can get a new G29 for about £220 .
Mostly that's true, it's a refinement update over the previous gen. You could just call it the G29/G920 V2.0. The Force Feedback quality has been improved over previous generation Logitech wheels. That might not matter to everyone, but I personally find that makes quite a difference.
I would really like to address your statements at 8:22 as I find them dead wrong.
The missing tire friction or underlying resistance in the G923 is what I absolutely loathe about it and is the reason I returned it.
You are litterally in the clip sitting in a go kart, saying you like the free/smooth rotation of the G923 better.
Have you ever been in a real go kart? There is no power stearing and it has a tremendous self centering force and tire friction when not driving.
And in no other rally car, race car or other cars in the world, can you rotate the wheel without any resistance, even when driving.
This no resistance besides the force feedback in the G923, is not realistic in any way, and is ripping me straight out of the immersion and reminds me that i'm sitting with a computer controller.
Someone should be fired for removing that feature in a 400$ wheel.
I haven't used the G923, but less inherently created resistance sounds better to me. So there is basically only the resistance that the software FFB is trying to create, without any excess force that is not supposed to be there according to the game/software FFB. But I can understand lacking that feeling may seem odd after getting used to it.
Anyone think the G29 pedals are better with a rig though? Because you'll be able to press as hard as you want, as intended without the pedal base slipping across the floor?
If I'm correct, the reason for the progressive spring in the brake pedal this time round was due to the consumer feedback from the G29 brake rubber stop pedal. Being the pedal base slipping across floors as a result of having to involve more pressure when applying the brake, due to the rubber stop (which I think with a rig it gives a more realistic breaking experience my theory is) in the G29 model. The progressive spring with the new model just provides a lighter resistance as I can only guess statistically most users have the pedal bases on their floors which means less chance of the pedal base sliding or moving across the floor or carpet or whatever, maybe?
Therefore, as I have a rig to securely bolt the pedal base to, I propose maybe using the G29 pedal set with the G923 wheel for a more optimum experience if you have a rig ? Or do you think the progressive spring is just simply better, thoughts please?
I'd figure the harder pedal is better for a rig. But if you have a decent rig you might want to install a load cell mod there anyway.
Look
G29 : PS
G923 : XBOX
Slight correction
G29 : PS
G920 : xbox
G923 is the newer model which supports both PS & xbox
@Knight Recon I think there is an xbox version of g923 with Trueforce support