Episode 67: The Dark Mother & The Bahari
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- If you’re new in town or just new to this whole podcast thing, you’re tuning into ‘Lore by Night’, the podcast that discusses all things vampiric, with no fear of breaching The Masquerade. In this episode, we shall be discussing Lilith, the woman argued to be the mother of daemons in the World of Darkness. We shall discuss her origins, motives, and the cultures of those who dub the pronoun of Bahari.
(WARNING: This episode will contain themes of torture and rape)
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There is a certain irony to Lillith becoming awakened in the Garden of Eden, leading her to view herself as equal to God until this arrogance led to her downfall... and then she takes pity on Cain, awakens *him* and then *he* gets arrogant/demanding which causes his downfall. It seems that whether one follows the Dark Mother or Dark Father, granting power to one's children is forever folly.
Power (in whatever form, physical or immaterial) corrupts
Just like the antidaluvians!
Well, this story reduces Cain to the opportunistic psychopath of this Dark drama. Interesting.
I guess the truth is somewhere between this story and the book of Nod.
Opportunistic Psychopath Caine is good, but I'm still a sucker for Caine just being a Grouchy Old Man:tm: who's just *over* the Jihad and all the struggles and woes and just wants to go back to bed. Grouchy Old Opportunistic Psychopath time?
Isn’t he though? He killed his brother to try and impress God because he was jealous of his brother
@@zlatkajupe well this is my take
After killing abel,caine was wracked with guilt,even if he was forgiven then,it would not change. i think as time went on, he became power hungry,then trying to make the best of unlife,to in the modern nights,just not caring about much anymore
no he understood lillith was a fake mother goddess and created loli. While also understanding her eggs created ugly features to torture and incel anyone who comes near.
so the lillith copers are hoping they can win by authoring this stuff when dracula is black.
that was a very clever way of introducing a content warning.
Thanks 😊
Masquarade lore always made me second gess my asumptions of the real world, it was one of the best part of my adolescence. And today, nearly fifteen years later, watching this video made me realise a lot of nuance in feminism's root, with the nuance between ignorant daughter of eve (who indulge toxic, animalistic behavior) and daughter of eve educated by Lilith teaching (in this analogy, feminism and human dignity basis).
Your voice is just *chefs kiss*
You flatter me, thanks 😊
It is freakishly easy to listen to
This is the third time I'd had to subscribe tho :-/
The more I am invested in the vtm universe the more it dawns on me if we lived there by all definitions we are fucked psychos of all kind are waiting in all corners either its humans , werewolves , mages , ghosts/wraiths , mummies , crazied ghoul organisation , literally demons on earth etc even final death you are not safe you could get your souls tortured in oblivion and now the dark mother who god could be potential terrified of ................. Nice
Interesting point was that Lilith declared herself equal to Jehova but he cast her out of her own creation? She also seems incapable of retaliation against him so then they can’t be equals and one clearly is more powerful kind of like the difference between and antidiluvian and an elder both incredibly powerful but ultimately one is unmistakably stronger.
Ah wonderful, it just so happens some of my coterie were asking about this subject just the other night, thank you.
You're very welcome 😊
Love the piano in the background.
That is the reprise of Cigarette Smoke, which you can purchase and listen too, along with the rest of the Lore By Night soundtrack
Damn that was a smoooth trigger warning
Thanks 😊
The irony that she felt wrongs for not being givern Knowledge yet after eve ate and gained it she still looks down upon her and her children. Also am I wrong but typical nod lore caine was in his self imposed exile and took no part in the slaughter? as his children went to him to lead them and he refused and returned after to impose the curses?
Ahi heh Lilitu!
Always love playing a Bahari, and hearing about them.
I love you, brother! Thank you for shining such light on the African kindred. Its sad that White Wolf doesn't use the vampites of actual African myth - like the Asasabonsam, with its bat wings. Bat ears, and iron sabertoothed fangs. That sounds too wild !!!
New gangrel bloodline time
I find always found Lilith fascinating so it's a shame that I can't get into the Bahari.
Still presence, obfuscate, and dominate is a pretty fun discipline spread in V5, especially after cults and the companion, so credit where it's due there girl, you know how to pick them.
Yay can't wait for more
Really hope you cover more obscure vtm lore
I do! Check the back catalogue
Outstanding video young man!! 😊
Great video though such as myself have other views on both Caine and Lilith as well as the true origin of the state of Undeath. You present it all so well. Keep it up please.
Very informative
Thanks!
Just two more episodes till episode 69. I hope the Narrator & Collin Omega verce ship comes in. Or maybe how to E.R.P. or maybe a update on consent in gameing.
What do you mean by an update on Consent in Gaming?
@@LoreByNightVtM Not necessarily an update. The first video is very solid. Maybe a more practical example for the story teller. Keeping the information anonymous unless necessary. Keeping trigger reminders behind the screen. Having your players prepare their red cards or black cards. Making sure you shred the questionnaire in front of everyone. The tricky logistical problems most story tellers don't think about. Maybe having a general list of free social program to get help ready if they need it. My experience with a concentrate sheet is very limited. But there could probably be a hole series made from this single topic.
Gottcha
Oh, good old world of darkness.
Who is the right man will tell the being who created them I am not equal
Awesome video. Your voice is fucking amazing btw.
Thank you! I appreciate that ☺️
I know that I am years late, but I just go into vtm what does the term Bahari actually mean as a word? and what langauge does it come from the only thing I found is that it means 'sea' or is a name meaning 'sailor'.
Cenobites? The Bahari sure sound like they follow the cenobite path.... 😅
The Path of Cathari calls you, childe. Do not resist...
16:29. Eve the third vife? Lilith the first. Who is the second?
Old jewish folklore says adams second wife was "built from the ground uo" with Adam awake the entire time. He rejected her because he had to see all the guts and grime take form therefore was disgusted by her. But she's also sometimes suspected to be "the crone"
Who is the narrator?
An old Nosferatu
Hi
Ahoy there!
Third wife?
God had made a second wife for Adam from the earth but he rejected her and so she was reduced to dust and scattered by the wind.
@@AhegaoEinstein No SHe was the crone caine met in the woods
@@wolfsbanealphas617 is that from the book of nod or revelations of the dark mother. Cause they’ve got different perspectives
@@AhegaoEinstein I think the book of nod
@@wolfsbanealphas617 yeah but the video is about the Bahari perspective:
“Jehovah lifted up the true earth, and he took a handful of clay and did breathe upon it. And the clay did form the bones and of the female, and her skin, and the fluids and bowels therein. But Adam was dismayed, and he was sick within the garden, for he had seen the innards of his mate and would not Name her. So Jehovah did destroy His creation with a strong wind. He scattered the skin, and the bowels, and the bones and left the fluids to soak into the true earth” - Pg 49, Book of the Serpent, revelations of the dark mother
Wish you would just use ‘they’ instead of ‘he or she’ tbh