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Are we seeing a pattern here with SA games this WT20??
Instead of crumbling under pressure in crunch games, they putting themselves in pressure situations and coming up triumph at the end.
bingo
@HDas-ny6zmSa vs Wi is QF. NRR is poor
The amount of disrespect South Africa gets is ridiculous. They’ve bowled incredibly for 18 of the 20 overs. Baartman is great at bowling yorkers normally, today wasn’t his day in that over specifically. But they all dominated the English with ball. And QDK’s performance in hindsight was incredible. Why aren’t any of the English top order getting criticised? But they’ll slate Baartman who’s been great in every over he’s bowled this tournament bar 1.
the point is bowl cutters into pitch..why do u hav to bowl yorker...thats nt hate...sa has been choking all the time...today also nearly
@@MHCSSUDARSHANKH that's the most stupid comment of the week. Congratulations
Love watching gilli and vaughan giving some worthy commnts about the match.....
Why so much negativity about SA win they won 6 out of 6 . T 20 wc is rarely won by a perfect team, it has lot of luck. Hope this SA team win t20 wc this time. Expecting big thing from klassen come semis and final .
I agree with you…they played better than England plain and simple…they analysis is completely wrong
i love it lol nobody gives us a chance to win the worldcup this time unlike in the past when everyone has us favorites and we crumbled under the pressure
They played better in the first 10 overs of the second innings but then gave away in the last 10. England required 11 rpo with 4 down and still lost by just 7 runs. And baartman's over is a pretty good example of why they are criticising SA.
The fact that SA has managed to stay unbeaten in a tournament where they could have potentially lost 4 of their 6 games speaks volumes! It doesn't matter how pretty the wins are as long as they win, case in point being Australia in 2023. Some really close games, but they pulled out the wins. Best teams don't always win tournaments, teams that win and peak at the right time do!
So basically England can play in any nonsense way and lose and still will be praised and the opponent will win and still be criticised
Don't know about England getting praised or not but SA definitely deserve the criticism they are getting.
If you beat Nepal by 1 run and allow USA to come very close to your target and have ZERO ICC trophies after playing for so many years then you deserve all the criticism, banter and deserve to be laughed at because you have been a laughing stock.
Simply winning is not enough when you have 3 contenders (SA, WI, ENG) vying for 2 semifinals spots from your group. You need to have at least one convincing win to boost up your NRR.
If SA lose against WI they'll be going back home from the super 8 stage even after winning 6 out of 6 overall and 2 out of 2 in the super 8 till now.
I wanted SA and WI to qualify from this group but SA’s performances have rubbed me the wrong way. They've frustrated me big time.
@@pritambiswas1000that's the most stupid comment of the week. Congratulations
Did we watch the same game? The sheer amount of negativity and criticism on SA….almost seems like SA lost! Could SA have done better? Sure…. But it’s not that bad for them is it?
It's not that good for them either.
They failed to punish/destroy USA and allowed them to come very close to their target and that might come back to haunt them because now after WI destroying USA their NRR is already better than that of SA and you can pretty much expect England to also destroy USA so their NRR will also be better than SA’s hence even after winning 6 out 6 matches till now and 2 out 2 matches in the super 8 stage they have another must win match against WI.
If SA lose against WI they'll be going home from the super 8 stage.
SA hasn't been convincing, not at all and their chances of qualifying for the semifinals is hanging by the thread.
SA need to win against WI or they'll need some assistance from the rain God to wash out either their match against WI or England’s match against USA because if all 3 teams end up on 4 points SA will be knocked out due to poor NRR.
They're are idiots
Absolute Legends of the game Gilly and Vaughan. Great to see clean analysis of each game and have a bit of humour as well.
England pundits are nonsense too be honest how do you criticize the winning team that's wild
No way u r non sensee ..they analysed beautifully
@@MHCSSUDARSHANKHstop already. You showing how daft you are
You'd swear South Africa lost the game, the way these clowns are carrying on😂
Adam Gilchrist and Michael Vaughn are clowns?
My god, kids these days are delusional.
Brilliant analysis by both of them and I completely agree with them.
Baartman almost lost the match for his nation with those 5 full toss deliveries. He didn't even need to attempt to bowl a yorker because back of the length slow cutter type balls would have been ideal for that pitch.
Whenever Nortje gets hit he tries to bowl even faster instead of opting for the slower, cutter, pace-off deliveries and goes for even more runs in the process.
SA should have lost against Bangladesh and Nepal in the group stage and they allowed USA and England to come way too close to their target when they had both the teams comfortably on the backfoot.
They failed to punish the USA and that might come back to haunt them if they lose against WI because WI after thrashing USA now already have a better NRR than SA and you must expect England to also destroy USA so their NRR will also be better than that of SA.
A win is a win but in a group where 3 teams (SA, WI, ENG) are vying for 2 semifinals spots you need at least one convincing win to boost up your NRR to have a bit of a cushion.
@@pritambiswas1000 🤦🏾!
You can believe what you want, doesn't change the fact that SA won the match.
People are constantly moving the goalposts. Fact remains, they were better than England on the day and they are unbeaten, no matter how much people dislike it.
As for the analysts being clowns?, in this case they are, a stellar playing career doesn't make everything you say or opine unimpeachable.
@@papsphaks4408 dislike SA? For what? What have they achieved after playing Cricket for decades?
I was rooting for SA because I don't like England but SA has really frustrated me.
If you are so arrogant and cocky simply because they have been unbeaten then you are basically a blind fan and don't analyse the games in detail.
If you are proud of beating freaking Nepal by 1 run and want to boast about being unbeaten then I feel sad for you.
I wanted to see SA and WI go through to the semifinals from this group but now only one of them can go through and I want WI to qualify because they are the hosts and if they are in the semifinals the home support they'll get will be amazing which will create an electrifying atmosphere and I would love to see that.
Also WI has more chance of competing and beating Australia or India in the semifinal than this unconvincing SA team imo.
I think the OG chokers of Cricket will again choke against Australia or India in the semifinal if they manage to beat WI and qualify for the semifinal.
You can pretend and put up a brave face as much as you want but South Africa has been very lucky to remain unbeaten till now and their luck will eventually run out.
Gilchrist, Vaughn and I none of us anything against SA, we're simply stating what we are seeing and what we feel can happen.
The biggest chokers the biggest bottlers have to win a ICC trophy to convince people because at this point of time they deserve to be laughed at as they are a laughing stock.
ZERO ICC trophy so arrogance and cockiness from SA and their fans is hilarious.
Nobody is shifting any goalpost. I guess SA fans have become immune and numb from all the failures and choking so enjoy your unbeaten run while it lasts because it'll come to a soul-crushing end pretty soon.
@@pritambiswas1000they might not be clowns but they're analyzing the game like clowns for sure. Seems like another one agrees with them
love this south African run every time they barely win we have not played our best game yet hopefully that comes in the semi final
If you watched the rugby world cup last year, you can see the pattern emerging here.. Hopefully the outcome will be the same.
Gaurav is being unnecessarily mean and bitchy to SA! Like what right do you or any Indians have no right or shame to mock other people's failures, choking or whatever as if India had a stellar perfect in the last decade or anything close to it. It's pathetic considering this hyped up Ro-Ko Jodi haven't had even 1 successful 50 run opening partnership in a single match so far. Stop being cocky for no damn reason and learn some humility. SA's openers haven't failed as much as india's openers. SA had 1 bad over with 1 bowler but all the other overs, their bowlers were excellent. What the hell is Michael going on about when it was England, his team that lost or "choked" at the end. What sort of rubbish commentary is this?
I just hope south africa wins so we can laugh at these guys. Every match they say the same thing. They bowled only 2 bad overs. Baartman is a new guy he can make mistakes under pressure.
@@Umar-fm3vs They bowled 3 dreadful overs. The two balls from Rabada in the 18th were bad too, but he got lucky to get a dot and a wicket off full tosses. And I’m sorry, a mistake on a few deliveries is understandable but how can you repeat the same mistake 5 times in an over at the international level.
@@nikunjdixit3225 you're right. This was baartman first bad performance in international cricket
Exactly 🤣🤣🤣 what i want to comment but can't understand how to type gaurav aur michael vaghun kitna negative bol rahe hai sa ko
I think you did not watch the match of SA vs Nepal/SA vs Bangladesh/SA vs USA they literally choked in every game and just got over the line.... Their bowling is just pathetic .. they are riding on luck...nothing against them but any fan watching SA cricket closely for last two to three decades can easily point out they are choking big time this worldcup.... The way they are bowling fulltosses is like a brain fade moment mahraj got away against bangladesh bowling juicy fulltosses n same thing happened today rabada with a pace on knee roll high fulltoss... it should have been smacked out of the ground... nothing great about wining like that...Nortje ball a full pace on delivery on the pads of sam curran...Man literally they were making tactical blunders today on the field
I think they are undermining Brook and Livingstone innkngs by saying SA bowlers messed up. I think the opposite. Those 2 read the balls correctly and launched.
SA might win this world cup considering fate is with them rather than against them in past tournaments.
Anyone know the make/style of the hats that England wear whilst fielding?
Overs 15-17.2 were some of the worst death bowling I have seen. It was like watching a car crash in slow motion. Baartman’s over was maybe the single worst death over in a while. How can any bowler at any level bowl 5 full tosses on a pitch where the slower balls were perfect? Rabada and Nortje also bowled a couple of rubbish overs, bowling with pace on a pitch like that. Rabada started the 18th over with two full tosses as well, getting lucky with one being hit back to him and another getting caught when it should have been a six. They got very lucky. Brook and Livingston played really well. SA bowled well until those 3 overs from hell. Then Rabada seemed to wake up after getting Livingston and then Jansen bowled an excellent 19th over and Nortje did well other than one ball. Overall another rather unconvincing win. Eng top order really struggled, while SA batting struggled apart from QdK and Miller.
This group could get interesting if WI beat SA and all teams beat USA. Then it’s 3 teams fighting on NRR.
Baartman's over was perfectly analysed in Ashwin's live after the match.. pdogg(former sa cricket analyst) mentioned that his strength is feet Yorkers for which Ashwin pulled a feather out of his experience in bowling Yorkers in west indies. It is not about international bowler rather it is about the conditions. But I do agree that he must have gone with a plan b as his strength is not paying off!
@@sundargm5131 I can give a pass ona couple of full tosses, but bowling 5 full tosses is criminal. It was a serious tactical failure by Markram. He got lucky that one of the full tosses went for 2, and one just fell short of a six. On that pitch, that tactic was bizarre.
@@nikunjdixit3225 yeah I totally agree but expecting him(played just one t20I before this wc) to be aware of the conditions is a tall ask. Also pdogg mentioned the sa players' experience with cross breeze, which shows the stark difference in knowledge between Ashwin and sa players
@@sundargm5131 No, I’m sorry. He’s not playing in isolation. SA have batted for 20 overs and have bowled for 16 overs when he came to bowl his 3rd. They know exactly what’s going on with the pitch. He himself bowled exceptionally with his slower ones and cutters in the first two overs. I don’t buy the excuse that he was too inexperienced. I also put fault in Markram. Idk what was going on with the tactics because they got it completely wrong for the 3 and a half overs.
Couldn't agree more than this!! That Bartmann over had mentioned throwing chairs at the TV(it was sooo infuriating)..Sa being my 2nd team behind India obv..❤❤
Ruubbish analysis of the game. They made it seem like England were the winning team. SA is definitely due a dominant win.
Yeah clowns
Gilchrist should concentrate on his rubbish Aussies😅
Having a proper go at South Africa hey lads 😂 poor saffas, brilliant Poms 😂
South Africa are not through. If West Indies beat South Africa and England thrash USA, South Africa will go out on NRR
Harry Brook is a choker. I knew he wouldn't see England home 😂
Not a bigger choker than South Africa.
South Africa the OG chokers the biggest chokers of Cricket are miles ahead of Harry Brook.
Disclaimer:- Not a SA hater, not a England fan, not a Brook fan. Just stated facts, mentioned truth, reality.
England will go to semis bcs thry just need to bat USA easily and in sa wi one willloose
beat West Indies is the cry but them can't make it out
Suzi h michael Vaughan 😂😂😂😂😂
Mark it guys wi n eng are qualifying...sa choking in last game against windies
They won. Again proving what a noob you are 😅😅
Stop before you embarrass yourself more
Gilchrist concentrate on your crap team Australia. SA are still in the competition Australia are not
such a useless bowling by bartmann..
Both are super bias about there team
I completely disagree. The last few years, South African cricket has been defined by the extremes, they either smash an opposition, or get smashed, but they can beat anyone. The fact that right now they’re not playing particularly well, but they’re winning close games, is a good thing. Even in difficult situations they’re getting over the line. They’re due a dominant performance, and it could happen on the biggest stage.
If you mean the semifinal or the final match as the “Biggest Stage” then let me tell you they haven't yet qualified for the semifinals so let's not count the chickens before they've hatched.
SA has another must win match against WI and if they lose that match which is very much a possibility as the host nation WI will be favourites for that particular match IMO with all the home support and most likely England will destroy USA so all 3 teams will end up on 4 points and SA will have the worst NRR out of those 3 teams which will send SA back home from the super 8 stage.
So let's not get carried away.
SA should have lost against Bangladesh and Nepal. Those 2 teams actually choked against South Africa the OG chokers of Cricket so until n unless they get the job done I'll never trust them.
@@pritambiswas1000SA won. So you're a noob and no one should take you seriously
I’m confused did SA lost yesterday the way u guys Criticizing
They're still better than the England teams that Vaughan played in. Also what have India won lately
Before comparing with India tell me how many ICC trophies has South Africa won in their entire history??
Oh right!! That's a Zero, a big F ing ZERO.
Come back and defend SA when they actually win a ICC trophy.
Yeah England Choked at this match . At one stage they need get to get 25 out of 18 . Pretty easy in these days . That brooks wicket has changed the momentum towards SA
Once again I say Gaurav is the worst anchor .. Move him to the Hindi channel .. His English is crap .. Why does he keep saying 'right?' .. Probably said it 12 times today ...
So u like listening to people like murali kartik, Sanjay manjrekar and deepdas gupta
Any English fan backing up USA to win against Windies tomorrow,Knowing Windies can hammer USA.
australia barely scraped by in 2023 world cup
and they won
you dont need to dominated you just need to win
Hi guys.
Why did india. England or Australia not play there any games in the USA ? Surface was not part of the last 8😊
So repetitive. First 15 minutes. Host has no real points. Chokers is the theme. Gilchrist & Vaughan really had to remix the same statements 3 times because the host keep shoving the same statement again & again.
Jadeja and Moeen ali don't deserve the tag of " all rounder" in t20i cricket..they should be called "bowler"...I've rarely seen them winning any game with bat in t20 international.. also eng should really think about Livingstone he's been playing every icc tournaments since 2021 without winning even a single game..today he should've finished the game...massively overrated in my opinion...
You are those type of people who changed their opinion every single time
@@nick_0jrNo.. I've always questioned their place in T20i cricket.. neither they are match winner with the bat nor there's any mystery in their bowling..
I agree with you on moeen Ali. He is in the team just because he can bowl. Batting wise he hasn't performed. England doesn't have any option otherwise they won't play moeen
@@ashukashyap5643yes chokli fan fielding to tumhare Abba Jan krte hain
You going to eat your words remember this
I hope and believe this time we gonna win 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 go proteas
How could you say SA will qualify
Why won't they qualify?
The irony of this discussion is that the focus is entirely on the team that won but should have done so differently.
What about the defending world champions who lost the match? According to Vaughney they are the ones who seem to have gained the experience of playing on slow pitches.😂