Hey everyone! I'm sorry but after a good bit of AFK and discussing with others about this video, I came to the conclusion that this video was not a good one. My tone a attitude wasn't warranted and I wish I could have made it better. I apologize also to the devs for the way I was acting. No excuse is there for me to act like this towards you or anyone. With that being said, I also want to let you all know that the things I did say in this video are still the points I want to get across, but I want it to be much better and more critical rather than emotional. I'll clarify that this isn't a "Copy and paste" of EFT, nor is it bad or "Sucks." But I do have concerns about the development of the game and maybe one day or in another video that I can talk about this in a better light, if not in a good one.
Bro all good sometimes we just want to vent and be heard. Especially when it’s something you really like and you want to succeed. Even if this video wasn’t the most warranted it still stirred up some conversation about how to make a game most here love better.
This especially sucks when it’s a good game but the devs just don’t have there priorities. No it’s not a skill issue when we trade 10 sec after he dies. There just to many bugs and balancing issues for the devs to do vanity content like the cat. Or the 100th dlc.
I thought to myself “I’m lucky that never happened to me” then played Matka Underground, obliterate a little Timmy with AP but then randomly die like 5-10 seconds later to the same kid after he’s already dead. Games been out for years and has multiple DLCs so this is pretty pathetic.
THANK YOU I've been outspoken for 2 years now saying that this game looks, feels, and plays, terribly The devs clearly don't care and are just trying to milk the players
especially considering the fact that they fall back on the "early access" excuse but then make the game cost 20 dollars and add hundreds of dollars of dlc, this game is absolutely a cash grab
No serious offense to CWS but they bandaid all of their serious problems that causes more problems later on because they attempted to add something to prevent something instead of just completely fixing it.
Honestly having been having the same thoughts lately. Started this past wipe. It was so random and nothing really came with it. Aside from actually buying guns with all the fancy attachments for a moment but after wipe back to blank. I was watching guides and getting a strategy, and my game plan was working until a little moment of back to back dropping a keycard, dropping a gun, bag and it just disappearing. Would have preferred a storyline, better quests, or even the decency to not ask for more money for more weapons I’m most likely going to have to take from some kid in game. Not to mention Scott and his “humor” or ego but I’ll just regress. The streamers and some of the community is why I stay but man I’m hanging on.
You can't escape it. Anyone who just dislikes and says skill issue just doesn't want to accept facts. The only thing keeping Combat Waffle together are youtubers, paid promotions, and little vr kids who don't have the brain capacity to play it.
My biggest problem is I cannot advance trader levels at a reasonable pace because I’m not a 10 year old with unlimited free time. I understand the devs are neckbeards, but they don’t understand that people have lives but would still love to play their game if it was more balanced and they FIXED BUGS INSTEAD OF A ADDING A STUPID FUCKING BUNKER CAT.
Working on 2 new games is a huge red flag. Tabor needs serious polishing bc at this point I have no reason to max my traders or go for 48 GPUs again, the PvP is absolute dog water... 1) Grenade physics are absolute ass and have no bounce audio 2) Most fights end in trades when both players have good gear and decent aim
@@zazaonwow I think these points are valid, but I think at this point, I am thinking this game over overrated. It's not bad, but overrated and I'm thinking of doing another video discussing ths issues again.
@@EGoat I agree it's not terrible, I've had tons of fun with the game but it's overrated for sure. Once you max your traders and have the best gear all that's left is PvP and it just doesn't hit.
I once reported a bug in the discord, and one of the devs told me to "Fix it myself" This has happened to other people I know, and some randoms that have complained about it. I hate the devs, the game barely works, and it is just a complete bad ripoff of tarkov. I wish I would've refunded it. But there is one thing that is fun in the game, it is camping in trees and bushes and murking timmies who think they are seal team six.
Good points honestly. Stings bcuz we want to love the game but we all need to take the blinders off and really watch what’s going on for a bit. The copy paste thing was eh for me. I loved Tarkov I wanted it in VR and these guys did it. Instant buy. Then DayZ and Rust clones were announced and I was like eh whatever not my favorite but they’re good games and people will like them But I had no idea the new bunker cat was a damn purchased asset. That’s weird. Like u said why wouldn’t they have some guys work on stuff in shop? I really hope this doesn’t become their “go-to” way of developing games now. Just copying everything and making it with cheap premade crap from someone else’s shop. (Contractors was my favorite arcade style shooter in VR. Contractors Showdown is a really fun battle royale that feels “just like PUBG” or “just like warzone” but it also has its own charm and spins just enough to actually be confident saying it’s its own game still even tho it’s very similar. If Contractors came out with a new “extraction shooter” today I would probably uninstall Tabor.)
So i like your points, a lot of things you say make sense but you talking about CWS Business practices while quoting escape from tarkov the same people that just killed themselves by offering some unreasonable priced new edition adding P2W and priority match making and lied to people that already bought the version before that claiming that this is not DLC so they will have to buy this as well, removing the description of the other version saying you will get the DLC (from what i heard) and standing by this.
crazy how they are making a large game and also making 2 other games with a 30+ person dev team shows how much they just don't care about the quality of got.
I think they care, but I think it's difficult because they're brand new to VR. So it's really an awkward situations. It's like asking a random person who a little knowledge in engineering and ask them to make a pully. They can do it, but they're learning the process at the same time.
Copy and paste isnt even the issue for me in the game. Its how its so undeniably janky and GRINDY for a vr title. They added these mechanics sure, but they all feel and play horribly.
@@EGoat Look at the projects Ares VR and Geronimo VR. Stuff like tactical reloading, ik, general gun mechanics look amazing. I was blown away when I first saw how smooth and buttery a VR experience can be when its not lazily developed. But thats just off appearences, since both of the titles are still not released yet.
My friend bought me this game, I played it for a week, and it the worst week I’ve had in VR. The game is horrendous and the devs are fucking horrendous, the player-base is full of assholes and dipshits, and people act like this is the best game in VR. People told me “Its like pvp into the radius but not horror.” I love Into the Radius and I’ve beat it multiple times over, so I was excited to play, but the pvp is jank, the maps are dull, the game looks horrendous. And it pisses me off. Im so glad someone agrees.
Also one more thing you will eventually loose your entire loot you have collected throughout raids from getting killed which is the worst part. I spend 3 days just to loose all of it.
How can you say that the game is not good when you dont like the genre of the game to begin with, the game is pvpve, its an extraction shooter, when you play the game with freinds its incredibly fun, tabor is not a copy paste of tarkov, they use the same concept and key design choices to create a new and unique vr shooter, its still in development and gets better with every wipe, but if you dont like the grnre of the game then dont play it, its lilke saying that you dont like contractors showdown because you font like battleground style games or that its a modern warfare ripoff, i think its just a case of you not playing the game with people who make it fun
bruh this game is amazing in my opinion. yall cant complain abt it bc it is still in developement, there is a reason it isnt even in 1.0 yet so the bug argument isnt a good one. In some of their newest discord posts they have addressed that they are fixing the bugs
i absolutely can complain because i paid money for a product. I don't expect it to be finished, but I expect it to be consistently playable, which its not
How is it a rip off if they openly remind everyone it's a 1 for 1 remake every time they talk about the game? They're super fans of Tarkov and they talked TO the people in Tarkov and Rust and other games and asked if they were gonna do VR and they said no and then asked if they could and they said yes. Not to mention other games do ALL THE SAME STUFF in terms of multitasking multiple games, selling games while still in beta, and adding DLC while in beta. This is an incredibly bad take from someone who obviously hasn't done any research and just played a game, got shit on, and wanted to blame the game.
I've played the game for 100 hours now. I do win lots of battles, but the ones I do lose to is the bugs and crashes that happen. Not to mention that I understand that they're a big fan of Tarkov, but for the logo and design if the game, it could be a bad thing. I just see it as red flags, but I have hope they'll find a way for this game to become great!
except i’ve read several comments from other people complaining about the same bugs, the main one being dying from a player they’ve already killed, which seems like a big deal, i haven’t played the game only seen it in the store and i wanted to look into it before i bought it, and from these comments it seems to me the game really is broken in this state, also, them admitting it’s a lazy 1:1 copy VR port doesn’t make it any less lazy
I dont understand why the devs and the discord moderators pass bugs as skill issue. I brought in good gear and a purple keycard and the server crashed and lost everything I came in with. I asked for compensation or for my stuff back and Im told stop complaining, get over it, even thought It was something not my fault
everything is a ripoff of something. palworld is a ripoff of pokemon, pokemon is a ripoff of dragon quest etc. heroes of the storm is a ripoff of lol that is a ripof of dota. this is how we get upgrades and better games. by doing similar games with other mechanics or themes ☺️
I agree. Honestly I do retract the statement of it being a copy and paste, but I find the issue being they might be thinking about this game in VR instead of it being a VR game. Like a port, but nothing really changed. So it's just awkward right now for me. Very conflicting.
i agree 100% but ill day a copy and paste IS okay...as long as its better😂 the game is activly dying and spiraling rn they never ever fix bugs and the ppl are very mean and rude for no reason i got blown up by a nade from 30 meters DEADASS and i even SENT A VID THAT SHOWS PROOF its very clear and obv what happend and they still called it a skill issue makes 0 sense
Bro I like tabor it’s fun and addicting but it’s so annoying I died to so much bs and the maps are so repetitive they add a bunker cat but not fix core issues. The guns are the same the maps are the same and it’s the same bs bro like the guns are so lazy it’s just your regular run of the mill things add more unique guns and more semi auto guns that are good also increase island of tabor add more guns more armor and loot bro that’s all I’m asking they have a whole dev team and they can’t even do the bare bone things
I gotta keep 100 with you dude you are literally telling the devs that they did what they said they were gonna do and you don't like it also I'm not saying the other projects that are like rust or DayZ are good I don't really know about those but I know a good bit more about tabor and this is literally what they said they were gonna do so you can't really point out that dev does what dev say they'll do then that make dev bad
look mate, you don't like the game its "boring" and you play games for the story, so don't play goddamn extraction shooters if your looking for a story bro. and the thing with the not having a "goal" is very untrue the goal is to get the best guns n' gear, this is the goal. your searching for a story play half life alyx or something, the game is a copy and paste of escape from tarkov, yes, but that it is in VR is the unique thing about it.
@@silasrh__8420so you wanted pubg level lore? The back story serves as the paradigm for what can be considered "reasonable" expectations within any game.
I think you're not wrong on the goals part. Like, i get it, but I think extraction shooter games get boring because they're just that. Besides that, I don't enjoy how all they are is "Get guns, kill with cool guns, get out with good guns." It just seems to be repetitive (this is for the whole genre, btw. Not just GoT) and not so fun. Not to mention, that goal was set by you. Like I said earlier in the video, I think it's fine to not have a goal and mess around and find out. But the biggest thing that makes games great is giving goals to players that help players get immersed in the world the dev created. And when the lore of the game isn't that shown, it can make players swerve away from the game. But, the unique part of it being in VR shouldn't excuse it to say, "Hey! We're Tarkov, but in VR!" Like I said before, I think that's lazy. In the same way, I think AB:I is lazy, but the difference is AB:I is giving competition to a monopoly in the flat screen extraction shooter genre. Tabor is just becoming the monopoly again bur for VR, and until we see another extraction shooter do better than Tabor, I can see it going badly.
i dont agree with the lore and story aspect, what I do think though is that this game has shit game design and a couple of tweaks would make the experience so much more pleasent that it would make the game from a 7/10 to a 10/10 lore could be the cherry on top
That's fair. Some people have different drives playing a game. I personally enjoy having a little push from lore or story to start me off playing the game and have a little bit of a reason to play rather than just shoot, kill, win.
maybe they don‘t prioritize what I call „game design“ jntil now and it will feel completely different in a year. cws did a good job besides some choices i didn‘t like *ahem NURSERY TANK*
ngl it kinda sounds like ur hating hard asf. i know its not perfect and the games are not in a good state. but you also need to think about the vr industry as a WHOLE. no one has done this before in vr. and alot of investors arnt really interested in VR because there isnt money in it yet. innovation is hard when something like this has never been done in vr. cut them some slack.
I get that. But at the same time, someone or everyone has to give them feedback. It's necessary as a whole for the developers so they can make the best game possible. Also, when I was recording, my emotions were rampant cause of some IRL stuff. But it's what I was feeling during the time.
I mean what’s better? Cod? Name a better game that is this early in development that has a better fan base or active team actually working on the game. I’ll wait
Bruh I hope you read this Saying this game is a copy and paste is just wild they liked the mechanics of tarcov and put them in a vr game because there is non on the market “don’t you think using assets is a read flag?”🤓☝️ no because there are paid to be made by there studio by the artist and your saying it’s boring when this gameplay is 10 minutes and you have only been in research the entire time and you saying you sick and tired of pvp and pve it’s an extraction shooter what do you expect loot and than run what a fun game that would be honestly the bugs are annoying but there are no game breaking ones and the small ones all y’all just complain and meat ride because it’s a bug in a massive game run by a small studio honestly your video rant did not make any sense I hope whoever you are reading this have a nice day and play tabor because the game is amazing and not boring because unlike what this guy wants it is fun engaging and intense to do
I watched the whole segment titled "Still no fixes for BIG BUGS" and it's just you complaining about the game being boring. If extraction shooters are so boring, boo hoo. Stop playing the game. Retitle the segment to something else. If you complained about bugs, I would 100% agree with you. But jeez dude, I don't give a fuck if you find this game boring. Maybe don't spend $20 on a game whose genre you think is boring. Edit: Just read the pinned comment. Never mind
There is no heavy lag or delay!!! And you stop crying about it kid. Tarkov is going down hill at this point. There's no goal for Tarkov anyway its just the same, bugs and everything you said.
Guys, this is his opinion. With that, love tabor and kinda laugh at this because he has a point but this is just a game like gorilla tag or fortnite you do stuff til you have cool stuff
Look bro, I understand you don’t like the game, but there are plenty of other games that have been copied and pasted like Breachers. That’s just siege in vr. Also I’m not sure what you mean by unfinished. The game only came out on the oculus store a couple months ago from early access. Sure there are bugs, but the devs are working hard to fix them, and they are doing a good job about it. Also there are plenty of games that use assets from stores. Also it’s one fucking asset bro. And the concept is party much fully grounded, but I understand what you said about the dlcs. I think those are stupid as-well. But don’t come out saying a game sucks because you don’t like a genre of games bro. Also Ngl this video wasn’t written well at all. It seems like you just didn’t like the game, m which is fine, and now you’re making up some bullshit points without knowing shit about them. You did make some good ones but there mostly shit.
This video was more of a rant instead of a deep dive with evidence. I like the genre of the game. But it's real worries of 2 games being developed before even finishing the 1st one. I will agree that BreachersVR is seige in VR, no question. But I find there is a difference between styles and gameplay. Seige is more "hero" based as they say, but Breachers isn't that and is more focused on gadgets everyone can use. (But that's a nitpick, it's still Seige in VR, which I also think is kinda meh too.) I think it sucks RIGHT NOW because it still has old bugs that have been in the game for MONTHS. Bags doing 360 kick flips, items being unable to be grabbed if still in the drawers, guns not being able to be picked up after players die. I can go on and on, but at the same time you're right about bugs will be fixed soon. But you also have to admit that if they have those developers to make objects, models, animations, etc, why use assets from the marketplace? Also the game has been out for a whole year now on steam. Still have the same bugs from year ago.
@@EGoat I see your point here, and I do wish they put more focus on GOT rather than the other games. I can see why you think the game sucks now. That’s your opinion, but I personally like the game. But regarding the assets, it’s only a few things like the cat and gun and grenade sounds, and I don’t think that’s and issue. A lot of big games use assets, and I don’t think the assets used by CWS take away from the games experience.
The only similarity between breachers and siege is the ability to blow walls and breakdown doors. If it actually copied siege they would have turned it into a hero shooter.
It's not about a skill issue. It's about what they're using in the game for assets from the Unreal Marketplace. (Cat, for example, and a couple of others)
no bro we gotta push back, why the f are they making 2 other games? this is just giving us the signal that they actually don't care about the game experience and their customers, and money is their only priority
@@DIRECTEDBYH it's what like $30 bucks? it's not like they are committing fraud... people have hundreds of hours into the game. it's worth the price of admission
@@DIRECTEDBYH You’re right. I don’t understand why these weird autistic nerds jump to defend a game that’s clearly made by lazy fat discord mods who are just money grabbing. I’m addicted asf to their game, and would absolutely destroy any of the devs yet they write off clear bugs and shitty code as skill issue. (When they’re among the least athletic and least coordinated people)
@@vintagerealityvr First, there’s no reason to pretend it’s reasonable to call it an “alpha”. Multiple DLCs later and years into being an “alpha” you’d think the game would stop crashing every 3 raids. BTW if you put the dollar sign already and still say bucks, you look fucking retarded. You’re bad at the game and are just hoping the devs notice you like the little schoolgirl you are. We need to prevent the low-functioning autistics, like your parents, from reproducing.
I still love tabor. To me, it really doesnt matter if there a few minor bugs here and there, regardless if its a c/p of tarkov. As for the goal, its just to loot and get geared while having the threat of other players around. It just gets the adrenaline pumping. I understand if you dont have motivation, but its based off of peoples preferences, and it seems that its rated quite highly by the people of VR, so with all due respect, you kinda have an unpopular opinion.
I appreciate it! But my issues isn't just because of goals, its about the weirdness of how they're making 2 more games already without even finishing the 1st one. Gives me some red flags about it. Same thing with assets being used instead of a custom model (talking about the cat) that the developers could have made themselves (they have the employees, why not work on it?)
@@EGoat i fully understand that, but for what it is, the glitches dont cause too much trouble for the game, so the devs dont feel the need to go back and fix anything since the game is still held highly. If the majority of the community felt that the game needed a proper fixing then maybe CWS will switch back to smoothing out tabor instead of working on more projects
@@souu1234 Meanwhile, my friend just crashed 3 games in a row last night and BOTH our backpacks full of loot and with AK alphas from players we killed just disappear off both of our backs
Hey everyone! I'm sorry but after a good bit of AFK and discussing with others about this video, I came to the conclusion that this video was not a good one. My tone a attitude wasn't warranted and I wish I could have made it better. I apologize also to the devs for the way I was acting. No excuse is there for me to act like this towards you or anyone.
With that being said, I also want to let you all know that the things I did say in this video are still the points I want to get across, but I want it to be much better and more critical rather than emotional. I'll clarify that this isn't a "Copy and paste" of EFT, nor is it bad or "Sucks." But I do have concerns about the development of the game and maybe one day or in another video that I can talk about this in a better light, if not in a good one.
Bro all good sometimes we just want to vent and be heard. Especially when it’s something you really like and you want to succeed.
Even if this video wasn’t the most warranted it still stirred up some conversation about how to make a game most here love better.
I loved it and thought the video was deserved I’m a changed man
dont say sorry dude you said 100% facts
This especially sucks when it’s a good game but the devs just don’t have there priorities. No it’s not a skill issue when we trade 10 sec after he dies. There just to many bugs and balancing issues for the devs to do vanity content like the cat. Or the 100th dlc.
I thought to myself “I’m lucky that never happened to me” then played Matka Underground, obliterate a little Timmy with AP but then randomly die like 5-10 seconds later to the same kid after he’s already dead. Games been out for years and has multiple DLCs so this is pretty pathetic.
THANK YOU
I've been outspoken for 2 years now saying that this game looks, feels, and plays, terribly
The devs clearly don't care and are just trying to milk the players
especially considering the fact that they fall back on the "early access" excuse but then make the game cost 20 dollars and add hundreds of dollars of dlc, this game is absolutely a cash grab
they always pass off bugs as a skill issue
Or the heavy lag and delay🥲
especially fucking view distance on quest 2
No serious offense to CWS but they bandaid all of their serious problems that causes more problems later on because they attempted to add something to prevent something instead of just completely fixing it.
It is a skill issue, shit happens
@@hawk9465Like with your failures with women; skill issue. Keep glazing the fat neckbeard devs buddy! 👍🏼
Honestly having been having the same thoughts lately. Started this past wipe. It was so random and nothing really came with it. Aside from actually buying guns with all the fancy attachments for a moment but after wipe back to blank. I was watching guides and getting a strategy, and my game plan was working until a little moment of back to back dropping a keycard, dropping a gun, bag and it just disappearing. Would have preferred a storyline, better quests, or even the decency to not ask for more money for more weapons I’m most likely going to have to take from some kid in game. Not to mention Scott and his “humor” or ego but I’ll just regress. The streamers and some of the community is why I stay but man I’m hanging on.
You can't escape it. Anyone who just dislikes and says skill issue just doesn't want to accept facts. The only thing keeping Combat Waffle together are youtubers, paid promotions, and little vr kids who don't have the brain capacity to play it.
Check the pinned comment and new video!
And the fact that it's unique
My biggest problem is I cannot advance trader levels at a reasonable pace because I’m not a 10 year old with unlimited free time. I understand the devs are neckbeards, but they don’t understand that people have lives but would still love to play their game if it was more balanced and they FIXED BUGS INSTEAD OF A ADDING A STUPID FUCKING BUNKER CAT.
The raid timer to leave is what killed leveling up for me
Working on 2 new games is a huge red flag. Tabor needs serious polishing bc at this point I have no reason to max my traders or go for 48 GPUs again, the PvP is absolute dog water...
1) Grenade physics are absolute ass and have no bounce audio
2) Most fights end in trades when both players have good gear and decent aim
@@zazaonwow I think these points are valid, but I think at this point, I am thinking this game over overrated. It's not bad, but overrated and I'm thinking of doing another video discussing ths issues again.
@@EGoat I agree it's not terrible, I've had tons of fun with the game but it's overrated for sure. Once you max your traders and have the best gear all that's left is PvP and it just doesn't hit.
they need to start making vr games to push the boundaries rather than trying for a quick cash grab.
I once reported a bug in the discord, and one of the devs told me to "Fix it myself" This has happened to other people I know, and some randoms that have complained about it. I hate the devs, the game barely works, and it is just a complete bad ripoff of tarkov. I wish I would've refunded it. But there is one thing that is fun in the game, it is camping in trees and bushes and murking timmies who think they are seal team six.
Good points honestly. Stings bcuz we want to love the game but we all need to take the blinders off and really watch what’s going on for a bit.
The copy paste thing was eh for me. I loved Tarkov I wanted it in VR and these guys did it. Instant buy. Then DayZ and Rust clones were announced and I was like eh whatever not my favorite but they’re good games and people will like them
But I had no idea the new bunker cat was a damn purchased asset. That’s weird. Like u said why wouldn’t they have some guys work on stuff in shop? I really hope this doesn’t become their “go-to” way of developing games now. Just copying everything and making it with cheap premade crap from someone else’s shop.
(Contractors was my favorite arcade style shooter in VR. Contractors Showdown is a really fun battle royale that feels “just like PUBG” or “just like warzone” but it also has its own charm and spins just enough to actually be confident saying it’s its own game still even tho it’s very similar. If Contractors came out with a new “extraction shooter” today I would probably uninstall Tabor.)
So i like your points, a lot of things you say make sense but you talking about CWS Business practices while quoting escape from tarkov
the same people that just killed themselves by offering some unreasonable priced new edition adding P2W and priority match making and lied to people that already bought the version before that claiming that this is not DLC so they will have to buy this as well, removing the description of the other version saying you will get the DLC (from what i heard) and standing by this.
Well, you're not wrong on that.
crazy how they are making a large game and also making 2 other games with a 30+ person dev team shows how much they just don't care about the quality of got.
Quantity over Quality. They also just want to be known as the "first tarkov VR" or "first DayZ VR"
I think they care, but I think it's difficult because they're brand new to VR. So it's really an awkward situations. It's like asking a random person who a little knowledge in engineering and ask them to make a pully.
They can do it, but they're learning the process at the same time.
Copy and paste isnt even the issue for me in the game. Its how its so undeniably janky and GRINDY for a vr title. They added these mechanics sure, but they all feel and play horribly.
I do agree, but they're very new to VR industry. So we'll have to see.
@@EGoat Look at the projects Ares VR and Geronimo VR. Stuff like tactical reloading, ik, general gun mechanics look amazing. I was blown away when I first saw how smooth and buttery a VR experience can be when its not lazily developed. But thats just off appearences, since both of the titles are still not released yet.
@CytanAJ Look at VAIL. Their gunplay and scoped are far better than GoT.
My friend bought me this game, I played it for a week, and it the worst week I’ve had in VR. The game is horrendous and the devs are fucking horrendous, the player-base is full of assholes and dipshits, and people act like this is the best game in VR. People told me “Its like pvp into the radius but not horror.” I love Into the Radius and I’ve beat it multiple times over, so I was excited to play, but the pvp is jank, the maps are dull, the game looks horrendous. And it pisses me off. Im so glad someone agrees.
The only thing that I realized is they're really new to VR. So I'll give them some slack. Maybe next year it'll be better, but we'll have to see.
Also one more thing you will eventually loose your entire loot you have collected throughout raids from getting killed which is the worst part. I spend 3 days just to loose all of it.
Man.. you sound like you're about to cry... are you okay?
Pain... Early access is pain. It's a rant that I made instead of a detailed analysis. So emotions are rampant while I was making this.
How can you say that the game is not good when you dont like the genre of the game to begin with, the game is pvpve, its an extraction shooter, when you play the game with freinds its incredibly fun, tabor is not a copy paste of tarkov, they use the same concept and key design choices to create a new and unique vr shooter, its still in development and gets better with every wipe, but if you dont like the grnre of the game then dont play it, its lilke saying that you dont like contractors showdown because you font like battleground style games or that its a modern warfare ripoff, i think its just a case of you not playing the game with people who make it fun
Well, they can't really do anything about that because it happens so frequently. So I get their point of view.
You’re autistic bud
@@EGoat Huh?
@@FISCAL277 Look at my comment, it's pinned at the top.
bruh this game is amazing in my opinion. yall cant complain abt it bc it is still in developement, there is a reason it isnt even in 1.0 yet so the bug argument isnt a good one. In some of their newest discord posts they have addressed that they are fixing the bugs
Check the pinned comment now.
i absolutely can complain because i paid money for a product. I don't expect it to be finished, but I expect it to be consistently playable, which its not
The worst is the fan base dude. my god the amount of children scott has to defend him is very concerning
vr dayz sound fire tho ngl but i think they should leave it to bohemia interactive
I don't think they will. DayZ is SUPER OLD. It'll get competition soon.
I agree it’s lazy but the lazy is fun
How is it a rip off if they openly remind everyone it's a 1 for 1 remake every time they talk about the game? They're super fans of Tarkov and they talked TO the people in Tarkov and Rust and other games and asked if they were gonna do VR and they said no and then asked if they could and they said yes. Not to mention other games do ALL THE SAME STUFF in terms of multitasking multiple games, selling games while still in beta, and adding DLC while in beta. This is an incredibly bad take from someone who obviously hasn't done any research and just played a game, got shit on, and wanted to blame the game.
I've played the game for 100 hours now. I do win lots of battles, but the ones I do lose to is the bugs and crashes that happen. Not to mention that I understand that they're a big fan of Tarkov, but for the logo and design if the game, it could be a bad thing.
I just see it as red flags, but I have hope they'll find a way for this game to become great!
except i’ve read several comments from other people complaining about the same bugs, the main one being dying from a player they’ve already killed, which seems like a big deal, i haven’t played the game only seen it in the store and i wanted to look into it before i bought it, and from these comments it seems to me the game really is broken in this state, also, them admitting it’s a lazy 1:1 copy VR port doesn’t make it any less lazy
I dont understand why the devs and the discord moderators pass bugs as skill issue. I brought in good gear and a purple keycard and the server crashed and lost everything I came in with. I asked for compensation or for my stuff back and Im told stop complaining, get over it, even thought It was something not my fault
everything is a ripoff of something. palworld is a ripoff of pokemon, pokemon is a ripoff of dragon quest etc. heroes of the storm is a ripoff of lol that is a ripof of dota. this is how we get upgrades and better games. by doing similar games with other mechanics or themes ☺️
I agree. Honestly I do retract the statement of it being a copy and paste, but I find the issue being they might be thinking about this game in VR instead of it being a VR game.
Like a port, but nothing really changed. So it's just awkward right now for me. Very conflicting.
@@EGoat I guess there will come new stuff to it. I like the game, and I believe they will add more to it. but I agree right now there is not enough ☺️
i agree 100% but ill day a copy and paste IS okay...as long as its better😂 the game is activly dying and spiraling rn they never ever fix bugs and the ppl are very mean and rude for no reason i got blown up by a nade from 30 meters DEADASS and i even SENT A VID THAT SHOWS PROOF its very clear and obv what happend and they still called it a skill issue makes 0 sense
I mean if you are complaining about tarkov in vr then clearly you don’t like either game
i spent 25 dollars on this game and i played it like 7 times. It was extremely buggy and rust in VR sounds so fucking bad.
Is minty gonna have to come out of retirement 😂
Lmao, man, it's a duesy. Not much about the gameplay, but the laziness I see with Ghost of Tabor being identical to EFT, but "in VR."
Bro I like tabor it’s fun and addicting but it’s so annoying I died to so much bs and the maps are so repetitive they add a bunker cat but not fix core issues. The guns are the same the maps are the same and it’s the same bs bro like the guns are so lazy it’s just your regular run of the mill things add more unique guns and more semi auto guns that are good also increase island of tabor add more guns more armor and loot bro that’s all I’m asking they have a whole dev team and they can’t even do the bare bone things
I think what would really change the game is gun modulation. It'll spice it up and give players something worth while to focus on.
I gotta keep 100 with you dude you are literally telling the devs that they did what they said they were gonna do and you don't like it also I'm not saying the other projects that are like rust or DayZ are good I don't really know about those but I know a good bit more about tabor and this is literally what they said they were gonna do so you can't really point out that dev does what dev say they'll do then that make dev bad
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let it cook 💀
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dude I wish you were bigger cause more people need to see this
look mate, you don't like the game its "boring" and you play games for the story, so don't play goddamn extraction shooters if your looking for a story bro. and the thing with the not having a "goal" is very untrue the goal is to get the best guns n' gear, this is the goal. your searching for a story play half life alyx or something, the game is a copy and paste of escape from tarkov, yes, but that it is in VR is the unique thing about it.
Damn bro, careful rubbing those last two brain cells together. Don't come to a rant if you want your half baked game glazed
@@Insomnium_infinitum not my fault he's looking for a story in an extraction shooter bro
@@silasrh__8420so you wanted pubg level lore?
The back story serves as the paradigm for what can be considered "reasonable" expectations within any game.
did you listen to a single thing he said
I think you're not wrong on the goals part. Like, i get it, but I think extraction shooter games get boring because they're just that. Besides that, I don't enjoy how all they are is "Get guns, kill with cool guns, get out with good guns." It just seems to be repetitive (this is for the whole genre, btw. Not just GoT) and not so fun. Not to mention, that goal was set by you. Like I said earlier in the video, I think it's fine to not have a goal and mess around and find out. But the biggest thing that makes games great is giving goals to players that help players get immersed in the world the dev created. And when the lore of the game isn't that shown, it can make players swerve away from the game.
But, the unique part of it being in VR shouldn't excuse it to say, "Hey! We're Tarkov, but in VR!"
Like I said before, I think that's lazy. In the same way, I think AB:I is lazy, but the difference is AB:I is giving competition to a monopoly in the flat screen extraction shooter genre. Tabor is just becoming the monopoly again bur for VR, and until we see another extraction shooter do better than Tabor, I can see it going badly.
everything your saying is practically invalid
What a well reasoned and articulated counter argument
Check the pinned comment now.
i dont agree with the lore and story aspect, what I do think though is that this game has shit game design and a couple of tweaks would make the experience so much more pleasent that it would make the game from a 7/10 to a 10/10
lore could be the cherry on top
That's fair. Some people have different drives playing a game.
I personally enjoy having a little push from lore or story to start me off playing the game and have a little bit of a reason to play rather than just shoot, kill, win.
maybe they don‘t prioritize what I call „game design“ jntil now and it will feel completely different in a year. cws did a good job besides some choices i didn‘t like *ahem NURSERY TANK*
@@DIRECTEDBYH You should check out my newest video. I have interviewed Scott personally and it was fun!
ngl it kinda sounds like ur hating hard asf. i know its not perfect and the games are not in a good state. but you also need to think about the vr industry as a WHOLE. no one has done this before in vr. and alot of investors arnt really interested in VR because there isnt money in it yet. innovation is hard when something like this has never been done in vr. cut them some slack.
I get that. But at the same time, someone or everyone has to give them feedback. It's necessary as a whole for the developers so they can make the best game possible.
Also, when I was recording, my emotions were rampant cause of some IRL stuff. But it's what I was feeling during the time.
@@EGoat good man on admitting that. i agree 100%
I mean what’s better? Cod? Name a better game that is this early in development that has a better fan base or active team actually working on the game. I’ll wait
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Its a new game there's bugs and it isn't a rip off it's a whole dif game same concept
Bruh I hope you read this
Saying this game is a copy and paste is just wild they liked the mechanics of tarcov and put them in a vr game because there is non on the market “don’t you think using assets is a read flag?”🤓☝️ no because there are paid to be made by there studio by the artist and your saying it’s boring when this gameplay is 10 minutes and you have only been in research the entire time and you saying you sick and tired of pvp and pve it’s an extraction shooter what do you expect loot and than run what a fun game that would be honestly the bugs are annoying but there are no game breaking ones and the small ones all y’all just complain and meat ride because it’s a bug in a massive game run by a small studio honestly your video rant did not make any sense I hope whoever you are reading this have a nice day and play tabor because the game is amazing and not boring because unlike what this guy wants it is fun engaging and intense to do
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I watched the whole segment titled "Still no fixes for BIG BUGS" and it's just you complaining about the game being boring. If extraction shooters are so boring, boo hoo. Stop playing the game. Retitle the segment to something else. If you complained about bugs, I would 100% agree with you. But jeez dude, I don't give a fuck if you find this game boring. Maybe don't spend $20 on a game whose genre you think is boring.
Edit: Just read the pinned comment. Never mind
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There is no heavy lag or delay!!! And you stop crying about it kid. Tarkov is going down hill at this point. There's no goal for Tarkov anyway its just the same, bugs and everything you said.
No Tarkov is going downhill, but we need to give feedback to the developers, or else things won't get fixed or changed for the better.
@@EGoat Fairs Fairs
Exactly
Guys, this is his opinion. With that, love tabor and kinda laugh at this because he has a point but this is just a game like gorilla tag or fortnite you do stuff til you have cool stuff
Look bro, I understand you don’t like the game, but there are plenty of other games that have been copied and pasted like Breachers. That’s just siege in vr. Also I’m not sure what you mean by unfinished. The game only came out on the oculus store a couple months ago from early access. Sure there are bugs, but the devs are working hard to fix them, and they are doing a good job about it. Also there are plenty of games that use assets from stores. Also it’s one fucking asset bro. And the concept is party much fully grounded, but I understand what you said about the dlcs. I think those are stupid as-well. But don’t come out saying a game sucks because you don’t like a genre of games bro. Also Ngl this video wasn’t written well at all. It seems like you just didn’t like the game, m which is fine, and now you’re making up some bullshit points without knowing shit about them. You did make some good ones but there mostly shit.
@@TacIsRat alr good to know
This video was more of a rant instead of a deep dive with evidence. I like the genre of the game. But it's real worries of 2 games being developed before even finishing the 1st one. I will agree that BreachersVR is seige in VR, no question.
But I find there is a difference between styles and gameplay. Seige is more "hero" based as they say, but Breachers isn't that and is more focused on gadgets everyone can use. (But that's a nitpick, it's still Seige in VR, which I also think is kinda meh too.)
I think it sucks RIGHT NOW because it still has old bugs that have been in the game for MONTHS. Bags doing 360 kick flips, items being unable to be grabbed if still in the drawers, guns not being able to be picked up after players die. I can go on and on, but at the same time you're right about bugs will be fixed soon.
But you also have to admit that if they have those developers to make objects, models, animations, etc, why use assets from the marketplace? Also the game has been out for a whole year now on steam. Still have the same bugs from year ago.
@@EGoat I see your point here, and I do wish they put more focus on GOT rather than the other games. I can see why you think the game sucks now. That’s your opinion, but I personally like the game. But regarding the assets, it’s only a few things like the cat and gun and grenade sounds, and I don’t think that’s and issue. A lot of big games use assets, and I don’t think the assets used by CWS take away from the games experience.
The only similarity between breachers and siege is the ability to blow walls and breakdown doors. If it actually copied siege they would have turned it into a hero shooter.
@@OpiyumXX And we already have enough of that as is.
Then don’t play the game
bro is just a hater
Can you counterclaim me with evidence? Would love to conversate about this.
Sounds like a major skill issue
It's not about a skill issue. It's about what they're using in the game for assets from the Unreal Marketplace. (Cat, for example, and a couple of others)
the game is fine for being in alpha. there will be another game like this coming soon. just play another game for a while
no bro we gotta push back, why the f are they making 2 other games? this is just giving us the signal that they actually don't care about the game experience and their customers, and money is their only priority
@@DIRECTEDBYH it's what like $30 bucks? it's not like they are committing fraud... people have hundreds of hours into the game. it's worth the price of admission
@@DIRECTEDBYH You’re right. I don’t understand why these weird autistic nerds jump to defend a game that’s clearly made by lazy fat discord mods who are just money grabbing. I’m addicted asf to their game, and would absolutely destroy any of the devs yet they write off clear bugs and shitty code as skill issue. (When they’re among the least athletic and least coordinated people)
@@vintagerealityvr First, there’s no reason to pretend it’s reasonable to call it an “alpha”. Multiple DLCs later and years into being an “alpha” you’d think the game would stop crashing every 3 raids. BTW if you put the dollar sign already and still say bucks, you look fucking retarded. You’re bad at the game and are just hoping the devs notice you like the little schoolgirl you are. We need to prevent the low-functioning autistics, like your parents, from reproducing.
I still love tabor. To me, it really doesnt matter if there a few minor bugs here and there, regardless if its a c/p of tarkov. As for the goal, its just to loot and get geared while having the threat of other players around. It just gets the adrenaline pumping. I understand if you dont have motivation, but its based off of peoples preferences, and it seems that its rated quite highly by the people of VR, so with all due respect, you kinda have an unpopular opinion.
I appreciate it! But my issues isn't just because of goals, its about the weirdness of how they're making 2 more games already without even finishing the 1st one. Gives me some red flags about it. Same thing with assets being used instead of a custom model (talking about the cat) that the developers could have made themselves (they have the employees, why not work on it?)
@@EGoat i fully understand that, but for what it is, the glitches dont cause too much trouble for the game, so the devs dont feel the need to go back and fix anything since the game is still held highly. If the majority of the community felt that the game needed a proper fixing then maybe CWS will switch back to smoothing out tabor instead of working on more projects
I threw a tier 6 and it goes straight into the ground
@@souu1234 Meanwhile, my friend just crashed 3 games in a row last night and BOTH our backpacks full of loot and with AK alphas from players we killed just disappear off both of our backs
Ghostof tabor sucks
skill issue kiddo
Here we go again...
You are the problem. You are brainwashed to the point of glazing whatever low effort slop CWS gives you.