Robert Morris Accuser Shares Her Story, Faith Journey
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- The fallout continues after Robert Morris resigned from Gateway Church over furor following allegations he molested a 12-year-old girl in the 1980s. Morris, 62, who resigned from Gateway last week, offered an initial statement on the allegations against him in which he again used the term “young lady.”
In that statement, he described what he said was “inappropriate sexual behavior with a young lady” in a home he stayed in during his 20s. “It was kissing and petting and not intercourse, but it was wrong,” he said. The preacher went on to state that the behavior happened on “several occasions” over a number of years.
Morris said the situation was “brought to light” in 1987. He said he confessed, repented, sought counseling, and returned to ministry two years later with the support of the victim’s father. For the record, the accuser, Cindy Clemishire - now 54 - has denied the latter claim as well as the notion she was a "young lady" at the time, claiming the abuse started when she was just a child.
Clemishire joins CBN News to detail her allegations, to share her faith journey, and explain the reasons she's speaking out.
HERE IS GATEWAY'S STATEMENT: Dear Gateway Church family,
The Board of Elders wants to reach out to you personally to address the recent events in our church and to provide you with an update.
This is an unthinkable and painful time in our church. Our church congregation is hurt and shaken, and we know that you have many important questions. We want to answer as many of your questions as we can at this point, and we ask that you continue to extend us grace as we navigate through the most challenging time in Gateway’s history.
The details that have recently come to light are deeply disturbing. We continue to pray that God will bring peace, comfort, and healing to everyone who has been affected. We know you are grieving just as we are. We know that so many of you have been impacted and affected. We are here for you, we are praying for you, and we love you.
The Board of Elders has taken a series of steps that we want to update you on.
First, the Board of Elders called a special meeting and accepted the resignation of our senior pastor Robert Morris this past week. Gateway Church is committed to protecting people-first and foremost children and the most vulnerable. Abuse simply cannot be tolerated. We believe that God created every man and woman equally in His image, and that every single person should be treated with respect and honor. God has called us to be known by our love for one another. Read the rest here: gatewaypeople.com/statement-t...
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My father was a deacon & abused my sister & me all our lives. Disgusting. Neither of us told the other until I found out he abused my 9 year old daughter. I broadcast it, we confronted him, & forced him in to treatment. Tore our family apart. I forgave him but relationships ended. I ended up being a nurse & for 28 years helped victims become survivors. God planned every step of my wonderful professional career. I give God all the glory.🙏🙏🙏🙏
Wow may the Lord heal you and your daughter and sister
Why would you allow him near your daughter!?
That’s what I was thinking. I would have cut all ties after I turned 18 and was out of the house.
@@KristyRamirezgomez I had the same question! Why allow him around her daughter? What is wrong people! I will never understand it. The relationship ended after he abused her 9-year-old daughter...did she forget what he did to her or something? I am so confused as to why she thought it was a bright idea to let her daughter alone with him?
@@melissasapp3929 I’m so sorry Melissa. It’s time that these predators be forced into the light to pay for their crimes. I’m 54 now, but as a child, sexual crimes were swept under the rug. Not anymore.
She was a child; it was a crime. She can forgive him, God can forgive him, but there are temporal consequences for crime, and it should be ESPECIALLY true when the victim is a CHILD.
100%
Yes 💯 absolutely horrible to see comments blaming her when she was a child! These people call themselves Christians. Wow.
The father had years to bring it to light and didn’t.
@dahj5954 the family tried for years but it fell on deaf ears until recently.
It seems like she wasn’t even sure she was abused for a long time. The time in which it took her to process the events, have no impact on his accountability. Just because you rob someone, and they don’t report it, doesn’t mean you didn’t commit a crime. The victim is not responsible for the abuser. The victims actions or lack of action has no bearing on if the event(s) was a crime or not, or if there should be accountability.
Those other Pastors should be held accountable if they were told it was a 12 year old and they did NOTHING !!
Should her parents and all the adults (uncles, aunts) that knew be held accountable? The blame should not only be placed on the elders.
@@thisdudeneedsanewps4637The elders supposedly didn't know the age.
Be wary of Pastors, Politicians and Bankers....😂
@@MM-dl1ik and why? Because she and her parents hid her age...The parents failing to report this crime is a CRIME!
No they shoudn´t be held accountable . The child´s parents should because they did nothing
I was molested as a 6/7 year old child by a cousin & my mom just passed last year at 89 & supported my cousin until she died. This is why I only trust God!!!
So sorry for that deep betrayal by your mom. I pray you can heal and forgive. Perhaps she was a victims as well.
I am so sorry
@@janiefenderthank you.
Very troubling to hear that your mum lived so long & clearly never acknowledged your distressing time. Your cousin got away with what he did & she enabled him.
I'm sorry for what you've been through.
I hope you know the love of Jesus in your life.
I understand. I've been in a similar situation. 🙏
As a person that was molested at the age of 11. Yes it affected me deeply and it stole my childhood . I always felt dirty and carried a spirit of shame. . At the age of twenty I met Jesus and was saved . Forgiveness and Love are powerful tools that heal. Forgiveness sets one free and love covers a multitude of sin. That's what our Lord Jesus did for everyone that chooses to believe .
Very well put.
@@carley437 ..... yes, I am a survivor as well and I cannot relate to her desire to punish. I want my abusers to come to repentance and be delivered.... I pray for them always. Joyce Meyers also had to walk the same journey and forgive her father as well. It is difficult, but with Jesus it is possible.
Was this woman sexually abused as in intercourse?
Same !!
carley437
Jesus made all the difference to my life and brokenness, very similar experience to you… I know if it wasn’t for the Lord, I would not be on the planet… God is so good! ❤
I am a 40 year old woman. I was a Gateway member for 5 years in grand prairie tx. I was raped by my female cousin at the age of 5. I was also abused by men my whole life. I went to the staff for help at Gateway and they did not help me when my abuser was at the church. They pulled me in a room as i cried and screamed. They did nothing. Ill never forget that. Was in 2016. On and off id tell myself that churches are BS and God is not real after this. Thank you for speaking because it helps me see its not God that didnt help me. God is the only one who will. You inspire me! Thank you soooo much! Bless you!!!
Please contact Cindy and tell her about this. I am so sorry this happened to you. It is time to expose the darkness lurking in churches. May Jesus hold you close, comfort and heal your broken heart, soul, and spirit.
So sorry that your cousin violated you. I'm not sure though what any church could've done for you after so many years had passed? Would your cousin have allowed them to counsel him? Or have them take him to the authorities? With his age, I'd think most would feel uncomfortable even bringing that up for fear of violence towards them.
@@bibliolov the cousin was a female
Prayers for your total healing from God our loving Father. No we can’t blame God for what happened to us because it was sin. Sun is the cause for what happens to us but HE is the HEALER and only God can heal us totally
My guess is your story can be multiplied by 100. I'm so sorry you went through that and your "church" treated you that way.
Correction! A 12 yr old is NOT a lady. That is a 12 year old CHILD. Not a young "Lady". An 18/20 yr old is a "young lady" .
yes
when you see a child as a lady, you are already perverted.
Islamic wouldn't agree..their great Mohammed married a 8 or 9 year old!!
It shouldn’t say “Robert Morris Accuser” it should say “Robert Morris Victim”
Yes
I believe The Spirit witnesses to me that as well.
Bothersome right?
Is it true?
Especially when Robert Morris has not denied what she explained he did to her. We really still have a long way to go in treating victims as victims.
To those individuals who speak up immediately after being assaulted in any type of way, thank you for your courage. It just might save other people from the hurt and trauma you experienced. God bless you.
She did … but it was when she was 17 it’s not her fault the adults didn’t do their best to send Robert to jail!!
Even now she has most certainly saved young girls, predators don’t ever stop
Children rarely disclose abuse immediately. There is a great deal of manipulation by the perpetrator to silence the victim.
Amen… it IS 💯 % TRUE… I experienced this!
@kathyharmon2093 I certainly hope so, and we ALL can be vigilant to the best of our abilities. See something, say something.
I'm for you Cindy. God is exposing the hidden works of darkness but also doing so much through your testimony. Thank you for sharing.
You’re not just “rocking their boat,” you are ROCKING THEIR IDOLATRY. Thank you for exposing them!
Spot on!!!! Truth!!
The idolatry of money, reputation, legacy and prestige! Despicable to put that before a child or victim!!!
@@laurenfromdownsouth
Totally agree!
Amen
Yeeees they are and morris wrote a book about idolatry
Cindy, as another woman who was sexually abused as a child, you did the right thing in bringing this to light. No one has any idea what you have been thru except those of us who have also been abused. I am in my late 70's and I could never share my story until my 60's when my young grandson was put in a position of sexual abuse. We need to do whatever necessary to make the abusers stop!
It was brought to light already when she was 17, and the church, her family and him accepted his repentance, he was sent away from ministry into 2 years of counseling and this satisfied everybody involved so in 1989 they signed off on him going back into ministry.
What seems to bring contention was that in 2004, she approached him for $50,000. Would you have done this?
I did not. I had to walk through forgiveness for my abusers, not exacting justice. Vengeance belongs to God and God only.
There is only one sin that is unpardonable and that is the sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
@@paulaoyedele2081 so if someone rams into your car and you have damage that cost 1000s will you forgive them and pay for the damage yourself. Will u refuse to use their insurance but insist on using your car insurance?
@@paulaoyedele2081 Amen!
@@paulaoyedele2081
You're conflating justice with vengeance. The Catholic Church put Spotlight on predatory priests. They had difficulty getting victims to talk and their stories were old as well.
The church paid out 2 billion dollars in restitution and priests were arrested.
According to you the victims of the priests were vengeful...absurd
@@paulaoyedele2081 What are you implying? Who made you God?
Your statement revictimizes victims. Trauma is horrid and sexual predators need to come before the church and victims as well as the justice system.
Perhaps God said it is time for vengeance?
But your statement is such a fallacy.
So cool that she never lost her faith.
God bless you Cindy.❤
Thank you for posting.❤
It’s so important to have a personal relationship with God through the Christ and not just follow whatever anyone claiming to be a Christian says is of Christ when it isn’t. God is only good, those rejecting doing the good of God are not a reflection of God. Read scripture, pray, listen and obey HIM.
@@SRose-vp6ew she has her own view, not a Biblical view.
@@sharpasatack
You're confusing Cindy with Morris. ..🤣
@@elizabethlacky6068 she/he is not.
Some do the ones who really are forgiven by God do change. Yes you did did. Once God forgives us He doesn't bring it up!! God doesn't break his word. You want money or you do not had forgiveness in your heart. Give it to God! Let Him handle it! You want Vengeance. Your family knew it. Stop lying.
At 64 I am still trying to process trauma from childhood it permanently affects your life.
Yes it does. And sometimes those who should protect you, didn't.
I’m 74…. And from that experience in my own life… At her age of 12- I absolutely understand why she remained quiet- I did… and though forgiveness occurred as a Believer many years later- those haunting memories remain.
43, same
You need what Jesus paid for.
I feel the same that's why I believe something is very wrong with this "lady's" testimony. She wants to look like Babe, talk the sexual details were nothing emotionally to her, and yet talk Jesus like He'd have nothing to say about none of this at all.
Listen folks, no matter what she not He brought this to lite. He may have allowed it but that doesn't mean it was His perfect will for her to do so. I think this seems more financially motivated rather than Spiritually
I was my molested at 4 yrs. old. The shame that came still lingers some...after much counseling. I wasn't able to even accept what happened until I was 60 yrs old...by then, my life was broken in me. No longer can these predators run. No longer can the victims remain silent. 😭
The church still hides behind it's fine robes & pulpits.
And everyone of these loser women who is taking up for him….. I pray they get karma.
Not sure where “God” is in all this , but I pray for Justice.
Love you may the Lord heal you and use you fro his glory
Mine was earlier.
Young lady? She's exactly right, 12 years old is a child! She had wonderful parents, the truth will prevail!
Her parents were part of the 1987 disclosure in the church in Oklahoma. They all signed off on his repentance in 1987, he was disciplined, repented and sent for 2 years of counseling. They all signed off and accepted him back in 1989.
@@paulaoyedele2081lies
@@paulaoyedele2081 but Cindy didn't, and she's the victim here.
I heard someone say way back that The Lord would clean out His church first before He exposes the secrets in the world stage …it’s an encouragement that we’re getting closer to the end times✝️🙏🏻
LOL
@@Patricia77700 amen, people get Jesus is coming soon we will be going home. That’s God’s promise to true faithful believers in Jesus Christ.
Grab your scriptures
This is true 🙌🏻
Houston … 1960… pastor groomed… had multiple young boy victims. My brother taken to the YMCA in Dallas… later would cry and tell what his hero did to him … church of about 800 … multiple families wounded for life … I feel the pain … I’m 79 … tears for my family … we were noble to not talk about what happened… everyone suffered alone … Cindy’s ongoing recovery story was needful for all of us who were never heard … prayers for all who are still recovering .
Blaming the victim is not repentance. Hello!!!
Why was he left alone with her that much? You cannot trust men like that. No matter who they are.
@@CARLPHILLY No. You are wrong. You should of have said: You cannot trust men, PERIOD.
@@CARLPHILLY Sadly, people trust pastors too much. They are still human and the enemy wants to tempt them more than the average person because of the chaos it causes. You can't leave your kids alone with any adult, no matter who they are.
@@em77775 I am a minister. And I was taught not to put myself in a position to where that could happen.
The abuser finds a way to blame the victim. Shame on the abuser.
What needs also to be said is that there are thousands of faithful pastors who have been true shepherds to their congregation.
Yes please
Yes. I was victim of cohersion & sexual assault and the pastor/elder helped and heard me.
Yes, yes… not all men, not all pastors, not all Christians, not all…
Now is not the place or time for you to defend those who don’t need defending and if you read the comments clearly it’s far too many people.
I was abused so many times when i was young but when i met Jesus i forgave all of them and was set free because of Jesus and now i can look at them without any judgement and that is only the applying of the word same as Jesus did now i do trauma counceling through applying the cross whst Jesus did and all the people i help is truly sit free without any grudges or regret or revenge
Thank you for testifying of the power of forgiveness and for your role now to help persons overcome these unfortunate events.
Yeap forgiving doesn't help it will continue to go it's a generational Curse we are running this cult.
@@jamaicaisraelgirlit ain't no power in forgiveness that's a myth smh
Healed broken people, became healers for broken people thru the grace of God!🙏
@@renetfourie7839 Even if not fully healed, He manages to heal enough to work through them. To Y'shua be all the Glory.
That’s what Pastor Robert Morris became. A healer to many through his own brokenness.
@@irod1971wrong!
@@irod1971pastors are held to a higher standard. Children are diff from adults
_I hear you. Many of us have endured the same, for years longer at even a younger age but once we exposed our abuser, by God's grace, Jesus walked us through healing. We went on to privately help others, not continue to speak about our abuser under the guise of healing. Something is very wrong with this woman's tactic. Nevertheless, maranatha_
People take heed: “Sin takes you farther than you want to go; keeps you longer than you want to stay; costs you more than you want to pay.”
I believe Morris repented years ago. Where's your forgiveness? Sorry, don't believe u!!!!
@@robinsonnier6887 I believe you are a troll
@@robinsonnier6887Utter tosh! He continued to cover up his crime, lie about his victim & made thinly veiled threats against her via emotionally blackmailing emails about how this could legally BACKFIRE ON HER if she continued to expose him! Frankly, your adulation of Morris is tantamount to idolatry and has clearly blinded you to the truth!
• RM spoken openly ABOUT his contradictory story
• just like RM you're now using your voice to doubt her story
• she's not looking/asking for disbelieving believers to scorn & mock & mute this survivor ALL OVER AGAIN
• as it is written he who is without sin ........this woman is forgiven
• it's between this survivor AND our Lord's business if she has/has not forgiven RM - who are we to judge ??? @@robinsonnier6887
@@lgh615✔️ ☑️
Blaming a victim is insane and uncompassionate.
Is not a moral failure, it’s a crime. And if “properly disclosed” the police should’ve been informed.
I completely agree. The parents should have reported him immediately!
How can you say it’s not a moral failure? It is clearly a carnal mind that did this, not a holy spiritual mind that submits to Jesus’s Righteousness.
It is Both, a moral failure and a crime!!!
I think the biggest thing to do is pray for God's will. He didn't kill David for murder. And God called for death for adultery yet didn't kill David for adultery either. The Lord did send a prophet to confront him for his sin. That's a lot different then what's happening..
I for 1 am glad she came out and exposed him it's part of her healing process. I pray she gets total healing and restoration for her and her family.
The biggest gift is that her parents and others believed her when she disclosed.
My mom didn't believe me she gav me up instead
Yes, but at the same time they didn’t report it when they found out and they let it go on for 4 years when they should have seen some signs honestly.
@Papaspronator they were obligated to report it. You can be jailed for not reporting. I know a mom who waited 2 days, only because she knew a family member had already reported and she was put in jail.
@@a.humphries8678 But was that the law back when this happened?
So so sorry. @RoxanneBroussard-ej2nb
I am proud of her for coming out with her story. I too am a preacher’s daughter who was molested not once but twice in my childhood. I too remember exactly what I had on. This has helped me get past what happened to me and bring out the anger that has been hidden.
It’s heartbreaking for her I know but Jesus forgives Morris too. It sounds like she has never forgiven Morris which she must do according to the word of God. Do Christians actually understand what forgiveness means??? I’m sorry but I cannot agree with her about totally and permanently discounting a preacher for a sin he committed over 40 years ago. My God, if that’s the case we’re all doomed.
I m praying for Her I totally agree she hasn’t really forgiven I was sexually abused by my father and stepfather and I’m able to walk in love towards my dad because of the love of God the Father has poured out into my heart because of that I’m not just a survivor but I’m thriving in my walk with Jesus and and now by focusing on my healer and restorer Jesus I’m able to help other who have experienced trauma and brokenness see Jesus above the the pain and trauma there is a healing balm His name is Jesus 🙌🏽🙌🏽❤
Those of you who are criticizing her for "waiting 30 years" need to keep a few things in mind: 1. Unless you've been through it yourself, you don't grasp the full power of fear, manipulation, and shame. There are countless examples where victims of sexual abuse have symptoms that linger for decades. 2. She clearly states in this interview that she was already telling people (even starting at 17), but she and the people supporting her found it necessary to cast an ever-widening net because the story kept falling on deaf ears. 3. As she herself describes, telling the story doesn't just affect her; a bombshell revelation like this can disrupt many lives, so that can cause reluctance to talk about it.
She been sleeping with him for years! stop pretending and trying to gaslight others with your assumptions and theories, it's so obvious what's going on
The parents had to be blamed too especially the father. He knew it 💯
@@linegrant4605Not until she told her parents.
@@alisonh4022 You are sick in your thinking.
If you haven’t been through something like this,then you have no idea what a victim goes through 😮😮
Cindy Clemishire You Are Brave ! Bless You .
Thanks Cindy for speaking up and exposing this criminal.
Every church leader who ignored this and mishandled this will be held accountable.
Yes smh
Her parents were obligated to report him to authorities, to protect her and others. So many people failed her.
Many years ago the law did not require reporting. Women & girls were victum shamed into keeping quiet. Tragic.
I'm sorry this happened to you!!! Thank you for telling your story!! I hope you are okay!
This women’s father should have called the police and have never let Robert Morris get away with abusing his daughter.
if there is a time to LOSE your temper , it was then !
I am so proud of this woman for standing up and speaking out against this awful thing done to her when she was a CHILD!
Thank you for interviewing Cindy. This can be so encouraging to other abuse survivors who are not have been silenced.
I pray for complete healing for both of them and their respective loved ones.
I pray he actually realizes the damage he did to that girl because he has yet to actually admit what he’s done. He has danced around it and he has minimized, but he has not admitted it.
I pray for justice to be done because it will usher in complete healing. They have been praying for years but without JUSTICE there is no peace.
@simplyandoime7344 i've yet to see the 'harbingers of justice' bring either justice or peace. Meanwhile, mercy and grace are not 'fair,' nor 'warranted,' but are not unjust. Consider those attributes before calling for a warpath.
Pray for the offender and the offended to be healed and to know the fulness of forgiveness.
@@AE-pv9vc the offended doesn’t need to be forgiven of ANYTHING! They did NOTHING wrong! Stop minimizing other people’s trauma. Period! The fact that so many are okay with what he did shows that it’s no wonder why people don’t come to Christ. He would go to the victim! I hope she heals. NONE OF THIS IS HER FAULT!!
@@debfox
You just missed the entire point‼️🤦🥴
It is comforting to hear her voice. 🕊 She speaks for so many. 🌷
Thank you.
Morris should have been FIRED with no benefits from the church!!! Ultimately, he should be in prison!
Fired yes ..
Was he employed by a church at the time?. He was doing that from ages 21-25, and had only recently become a Christian.
@@MiriamBluewaterand arrested!
What is Interesting here is why she waited so long to bring this out?
This pastor had repented of this sin and inappropriate behavior and has from all Indications been living a clean and converted life bringing the Gospel to the ears and hearts of thousands. Why now?.................
.Well we have no believable answer to that question so let us then consider the words of Jesus. "he who is without sin cast the 1st stone". Did Jesus not forgive and restore Peter after his denial of him? Yes.........Peter repented and Jesus forgave and restored him back into his confidence. Did King David not sin with Bathsheba and murder Uriah? Yes. When confronted with that grave sin did he not repent? Yes.........Psalm 51 is his Psalm of repentance..........did he not remain King? Yes he did...........did he not wish to build a Temple for the Lord.......? Yes. After all that sin he had done God still called him "a man after my own heart". Most of the Psalms were written by this "adulter and murderer", do will still not read those Psalms today? Yes.
What we have here is here is an example of his critics own self righteousness.
God is quick to forgive and restore with repentance from the heart of the transgressor occurs.................man is not. John 2:25 states, He (Jesus) “knew what was in man.” He knew the dark hearts of those professing faith. This is an indication of our Lord's deity, for only the Lord can search the heart and make the right evaluation (Jer. 17:10). As finite creatures, we cannot see into the hearts of others but we are quick to condemn them. Too quick and not remembering that we too shall stand before God and give an account of our life and every careless word spoken or written.
He could repent and be forgiven...but never belong in the pulpit....pastors are held to a higher standard...and he lied...plain and simple...also when you expose a predator...his whole family and others suffer the fallout...also the abused blame themselves. ...@wayneroberts4144
Brave lady! Thank you for speaking out. I am shocked!!!
It happens too many times.
Churches are supposed to be safe places that protect children from predatory criminals, but so often they do the opposite.
I think the church is like a hospital . The church is a hospital for sick souls. Some has been cured , some being treated, some are non compliant and some are incurable !
I had never heard of this pastor until this month (June 2024). I pray that his repentance is true, and that his victim can forgive and receive emotional healing.
She is now 54 & he 64.
Abuse is abuse no matter the age👍🏼
The way Robert Morris minimized the abuse shows he is not fully delivered from this problem. He put other children at risk. 😮
If Robert Morris minimized his abuse. There is a guarantee there ARE other victims.
Let's be real, the bum had not been "restored." These so-called religious leaders had been fooling themselves and the congregations. They should have read and re-read Gospel According to Matthew Chapter 5 (verse 30 in particular). These religious bums are unfit to be in this business selling religious and spiritual dope.
@@maverickhampton3580 guarantee? You guarantee this? What will you do to fulfill your guarantee if you're wrong? Just curious, I haven't seen anyone else with a guarantee.
@@petefults5984I’ve got not one but two siblings who were molested as 7 and 5 year old. One by a SUNDAY SCHOOL TEACHER. I have NEVER seen a case where an adult who molests children ever stops with just one child. Children are to a child molester what heroin is to a junkie. They’re SICK and REPUGNANT COCKROACHES.
@@petefults5984 all hearsay and gossip - what the flesh loves to engage in.
She’s a victim. Not an accuser.
Well put!😊
She’s a survivor. 💜
@@twixierose136✔️✔️ right
Well said - An important distinction - this should be corrected!
So true! What 12 year old would want this? It takes a great deal of courage to be transparent about this, knowing it will change how the world treats her. It’s such a tragedy that the victims are marked when she did nothing to deserve it. She was a child!
God bless you Cindy. You’re proceeding with dignity and kindness.
My heart breaks for your suffering and hurt.
You are being courageous and a blessing to the untold numbers of children who have suffered this abuse also by truthfully seeking the protection from predators lurking in our midst. From Jesus’s own lips we have his clearly stated opinion. It includes a millstone and a deep sea when one hurts one of his little ones. There’s always forgiveness and restitution available. But it’s never cloaked in darkness and lies, but in light and humility.
Cindy you spoke so well. Women appreciate you for sharing your story. Shame comes in for many reasons. I admire you for speaking up. God bless you. 🇨🇦
Cindy, you didn’t deserve what you went through. Thank you for sharing your story. So many people have gone through similar experiences but are not able to speak out. You are a voice for many. May the Lord use you to bring healing to many hurting hearts. God bless you.❤
What a wonderful woman of God. She is telling her story to be a voice for the victims who have none. She is correct also in saying that it is unbiblical for a man to remain in leadership who has taken part in this kind of abuse.
The fact that across the board almost without exception this kind of sin is hidden and swept under the "religious rug" needs to end now! It's so wrong, and the victims are the ones to carry the shame.
Thank you, Cindy for your courage and for telling your story. God bless you, your family.
@@jenniewebb374 it’s not revenge to ensure that no other child has to go through what this woman went through. Just because we give forgiveness does not mean we forget what was done some behavior, you cannot come back from and regain your previous position. He’s showing himself to be weak in certain areas, and he should never be in a situation where he could abuse anyone else, and since pastors council, he would be in that position quite often.
@@paulan7218 how is her talebearing and gossip helping anyone? CBN has become Jerry Springer, Maury, Oprah.
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You're exactly right‼️💯
At 12 years old, she was a *PRE-TEEN,* *NOT* a "little girl"..🤦🤦
Sounds more like a vengeful Lolita to me..🤷🤷
While most of the Christians are busy throwing stones at R.M. 2 things to consider. 1 is the room on the stone throwing list for David the King or Peter? Let's not forget Paul too ok?
2. Have they even looked at their own life or does the words He who is without sin no longer matter?
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Agree with you 💯‼️✔️
Thank you for speaking out, and your continued faith. I pray for your total healing.
Cindi, my wife and were members of Gateway, I am so sorry you experienced abuse. Robert was spared a time in prison. I don't know why this is the time this has been exposed, but, that's OK. I'm glade you have some peace. Prayers going up for you.
Thank you, Cindy Clemishire, for sharing your experience.
I went to Gateway Church and went through all the stages of grief behind it. I hope everyone gets the healing they need, especially Cindy. I'm happy she's speaking out.
@SaltandLight What are you saying by saying "I went through all the stages of grief behind it." That is such a general statement and really doesn't say much.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you, Cindy! I'm a survivor-victim of catholic clergy abuse, but it's ALL churches. SNAP conference is in Houston in August. You are welcome to come.
Thank you for sharing about the SNAP conference. Will try and make it.
It's not all churches
@@Angelface11 The problem is in every church denomination not just one or two. Every church has to stay vigilant and put as many safeguards as possible to protect the kids. Pedophiles are drawn to churches, really anywhere there are kids.
Let’s not forget that her parent knew and did nothing. No police involvement. Bringing this up without lumping them into this whole thing is just as bad.
Hopefully Cindy's testimony will put to silence the ignorant statements of "why did you wait so long to come forward?" When a child is abuzed it can take decades to realize and come to terms with what happened. God bless you Cindy and all survivors.
Praises to God for His healing power in your life, Cindy. Thank you for being brave and strong!! Praying for you , Sis
Cimdy is very brave and what has been exposed about Robert Morris is the fact that he has NOT repented.He is a hypocrite...since he has continued to be manipulative..and lying.I consider that Ronert Morris should Not be allowed to preach at ANY church.
His career as a pastor/teacher may be over
You are a beautiful woman and God knows what you have gone through. May God continue to give you strength and show you HIS Love. People will fail but God never does! Thank you for sharing. Kids are so vulnerable and need us to protect them.
She expresses such Grace! Stay strong Cindy, many prayers are being lifted up for you and your family! 🙏❤️🫶
Cindy, I am so sorry that it took so long for someone to finally her you. God heard your cry the first time it happened. Today, it is making a huge impact. God hates sin, and his sin has come up before the Lord. Healing is your portion. Keep telling so others may hear and be healed. God got you. Blessings
Praise God, thank you for speaking out. I know it’s healing for you to expose this. I was sexually abused by my father. But God are my favorite two Words!
Your father is vile, did you expose him
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Yes but no one believed me, not even my mother! But God, He healed me!
@@melodyjohnson9119 he is probable dead and in hell by now. It is difficult for the victim to report such a shameful crime. It retraumitizes them. It takes years before they can come forward
This was exposed because God is cleaning house and this is the time, Cindy is a brave young woman and God is using her to help others
The fact that no leader back then would take the action that needed to be taken says a lot about the state of the church . We need to change that immediately . If not we all will be held accountable to God . Very very soon .
Thank you Cindy for coming out and speaking what has happen to you. Praying for you and thank you again for bringing truth.
Cindy is very articulate mature and an apparent godly woman. Robert Morris should be shunned and held accountable by our government. Will see
They don’t understand the ramifications of sexual abuse if they are sending hate mail
They only see how they have lost something.
Praying she really plugs into a church. And gets disciples. It’s so crucial. Can’t just be wandering on your own… That’s super dangerous. Praying for her full deliverance in Jesus name.
Every pastor that knew the details of this terrible abuse and did nothing to alert the proper authoritys should be charged as well.
and they should also be removed from leadership in their churches because they’ve proved that they would not handle future allegation properly
Who says the proper authorities weren't notified? And if the parents chose not to go to the authorities, what could pastors do who heard something, not the whole story? And when did she finally speak up? The Pastors can only do so much. As she spoke up, the right thing was done. He's out as pastor. I hope he works to help others struggling with sexual perversion know how destructive the actions are and how Christ can help them get delivered.
I pray she can continue to share her testimony and give victims courage to live and not be defined by trauma. Many are suffering in silence. Sometimes the rapists are not arrested. Don't let that keep you from healing and living your best life. It's the devils desire, don't let him win. Christ can give complete healing and peace.🕊
Because these mega rich hirelings expect the same sympathy when they are caught doing stuff that Christ will never do nor advocate.
@@jenniewebb374 You have a sick mind. How can a twelve year old be complicit?
@@jenniewebb374 Wow! What a sicko!!! No child under the age of accountability is complicit to such sick sin such as pedophilia. You must be a pedophile, only pedophiles would accuse a child of being complicit.
I pray for a complete healing. Thank you for sharing Cindy. God bless you❤️🙏
So grateful she has come forward and continues the process of healing. God bless her so much🙏🏼💗
This is important for the safety of our daughters and granddaughters. Thank you for sounding the alarm 🎉 We can't be complacent.
It happens to sons and grandsons too
Prayers for this lady. She done the right thing to tell what happened to her. May God completely heal her like only HE can do.
Thank you Cindy for being so brave and speaking out! Please know that when you speak out against wrong doing, you are not tarnishing the name of Jesus, but you are exposing the sneaky and vile acts done by people. DRAIN the swamp.
Thank God she is speaking out! It reminds me to NEVER get too comfortable when my kids are at church h involved in various activities. I need to ALWAYS keep an eye out ask questions look for possible clues and the ALWAYS pray for God’s protection. Thank you for sharing. So many lives can be changed bc of ur story.
The bigger message for me is many will chose to ignore pedophilia in religious institutions.
Thanks for sharing. What more can I say because this was tough on a zillion different levels but thank you. And going back to the Bible is always the right thing to do.......❣
My question is why didn’t her own parents report Robert Morris to the authorities years ago when they first found out?
EXACTLY!!!
That’s us a good question. However, not sure if that’s been answered yet.
It is mine, too!! Why???
I don’t think it’s been asked. Im wondering myself. That just screams out to me. Something feels off.
@@marcycombs2661 she snuck into the room he stayed in at her childhood home - that's why!
It's easier to fool people than it is to convince them that they've been fooled. A lot of Morris' crowd are convinced that he's the victim here.
Yes, he's a master manipulator, and people wonder how he could manipulate a 12-year-old child. SMH
Praying for Cindy and her family 😢My heart goes out to her. May she find peace and comfort.
Hello 👋Beautiful Lady 🌹..How are you and the weather condition like ?
GREAT interview ! As many are saying.. in these days..God is revealing all that has been hidden.. all that is/has been done in secret & behind closed doors. He -WILL- purge His church of all lies, deceit & depravity !
Hallelujah it’s about time ! Hopefully laws can be changed to protect the victim not the perpetrators ! 👍👌👍👌😍
I feel so sorry for Cindy, she is such a brave lady. May God heal her and her loved ones, and restore to her all the years she lost. My heart just broke listening to her. God bless you, Cindy. I hope your children, sister and loved ones read all the wonderful comments about you in many youtube channels.
Since hearing of this truly gut-wrenching story ,my prayers for the "young lady" involved have been that she didn't hate God. I am so very thankful that Cindy has held her faith in a God who sees, knows, and holds to account. This made my day, and I am grateful for this news cast.
Rape and molestation is one of the worst things that could happen to a child! 😢 I know from experience.
When someone admits to a "moral failure," there has been no repentence. You can't sugarcoat sin.
Absolutely Right!
This man is my daughter pastor she adore him saying how good of a pastor he and how he help the congregation i also visit his church and he come off as a very holy man i dispise these pastors who mess with children and in all kind of unGodly behaviour they are being expose GOD is not mocked i wish this young lady all the best and that she forgive him from her heart she is trying to help the young children and those who are suffering in silence i agree they should not be in the pulpit stay strong blessing❤❤😮❤😮❤
The incidence happened in 1982 when he was like 20 or 21years old. It also didn't happen in the church but at the girl's home and no other person has come forward to say he did the same to them. I learnt as well that she has once brought it forward before in 1987 and the man submitted himself to the authority for discipline so, not exactly sure why it is coming up again but God knows best, maybe he wasn't disciplined then and God wanted him to get the discipline.
@@jenniewebb374 A 12 year old child in pink pajamas, bloomer pants and a snapped up robe is NOT a jezebel! Robert Morris was 21, married with a child. Why are you not questioning his actions? He deceived the congregation and did NOT tell the WHOLE truth about her age. People like you are completely blind!
@@jenniewebb374Pleaaassseeee get help.
@@jenniewebb374You are joking/trolling, right? Because, if not, you need to repent urgently. Firstly, the Jezabelle spirit is another of Morris's inventions. It doesn't exist. Wonder why he invented it? Mmm. Secondly, I suggest you worry more about the Paedophile Spirit that rapes young women of God. Thirdly, please go to a good church and read your Bible.
@@jenniewebb374let’s get something straight, per the Lord. Robert Morris did not go through a two year step down. He did so for only one month before getting back at it. He kept being warned and given time by the Lord to stand down. God will raise someone up (like He did with Pharaoh) and bring them down.
Further, in Robert’s book “dreams to destiny” he claims it was because of “pride” that he stepped down. On pulpits, throughout the years, he’s claimed “moral failure”.
He wasn’t forthright, and continued lying for 40 years. The saddest part is that there are more than her.
A predator with that kind of depraved appetite, and ability to deceive, doesn’t stop at one.
Yes, there is forgiveness in Christ. But true repentance means telling the truth, and being accountable. Had he truly been brought to sorrow, thus repentance, he would have turned himself in. He certainly wouldn’t have claimed a 12 year old seduced him.
The fact of the matter is, too, is that had this been handled the way it should have been, the name Robert Morris would have never been known. He would have never stepped on another pulpit because he would have been in prison.
Lastly, God truly isn’t mocked, sin will always find you out and be exposed. This exposure is only the beginning. The Lord chose this time for a bigger reason.
By the way (and this is me sharing this part/truth) - the term “Jezebel” is so misunderstood and overly abused. I’m sure Robert did his own “sermon” on it. But one could argue he’s an “Absalom”. I pray he truly humbles himself for his own sake. God is a God of restoration - but He won’t allow His name to be used, nor the blood of Jesus to be trampled on. Hebrews 10:26-31 But most cheap grace being pushed out today overlook truths like that.
The term young lady the attempt of a predator to deflect the guilt of being a child molester. In addition, so many times the victims in stories like this become vilified and protected by the leaders in the church. Just sickening.
Keep rocking the boat because this is the beginning of a larger wave of victims to come forward
Amazing woman , so brave, keep healinv from narcissistic abuse as well
Thank you Cindy for your courage and strength! Your story has really triggered unresolved hurt in my life..I was 7 and raped by my sept brother… could not have children because of it…he lied too about the abuse making it out like we fulled around.. I am 69 now and still have triggers.. 😢 Speak out girl!!
God bless you
I'm so sorry you went through that.😢🙏🏼
I can't imagine that after Ms. Clemishire told her parents about the Robert Morris situation that they didn't take immediate action. My earthly father would have hurt Robert Morris really bad. My parents told me at an early age that no one was to touch my private parts.
He says young lady to manipulate it and hide that it was a little girl. Just shows he's not delivered from this.
I am so proud of you. You are a hero to so many people. I know God is going to use your story to help so many children, men and women. God bless your precious family and God bless you. You are all in my prayers..
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Amen. "Statue of limitations" she spoke about (as well as everything else) definitely needs adressed.
Why did she go to him for $50,000 in 2004?
@@paulaoyedele2081reimbursement for her counseling is what they reported
Thank you so much for your bravery, such a rough subject! God Bless you! The LORD is cleaning the filthiness out of His Church. I pray this brings you continued healing and your story will help others. I do not know how God will do it, but He says He will restore. I'm not actually sure what that means even, But I Trust Him with all my heart! Again, God Bless You!
I am not in shock with all the scandals. I’ve been through the same. Thank God the idols are falling and we are finally looking to Jesus. HE NEVER FAILS. 🙏🏼
Ppl need to come forward and step out of the dark into the light and unveil these monsters. She was a child. According to Morris' video he has had many, many, many affairs with girls. He admitted it. This church needs to be investigated.
Well said
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Can you share that video he speaks in please? Thanks!
That's not what he said! Why are you adding to it to make it worse? I don't understand this.
@petefults5984 He FRAMED it as he was a teenager and framed it as this was an extramarital affair. Inappropriate and a moral failure. He was 21 years old, preaching, and married. He stated he was sexually immoral and he stated it was easy for him. Robert Morris stated that he didn't have a plan BUT he looked for signs? He looked for girls, he stated there were signs in girls, he learned how to spot it in girls, he looked for girls who were the most susceptible, he was looking for girls who didn't have a good relationships with their fathers. This is a person whether taught or learned this definitely had a plan. He stated this out of his mouth he learned to lie and manipulate. He stated on video he had multiple affairs with girls. He admitted it. He also stated out of his mouth girls. He stated it right after he stated he was blessed but also cursed. He stated out of his mouth that he had multiple, multiple, multiple affairs. His words not mine. The abuse was from 1982 to 1987. It happened for several years. They were children, girls, and kids. READ and RESEARCH for yourselves it's everywhere.
Thank you for your courage in continuing to come forward. You are blazing a trail for so many others.
What an incredible interview. Cindy- my heart goes out to you. And the man interviewing? You did a brilliant job. The best I’ve seen. I pray for continued exposure of this scourge, healing for victims, and that people will cling to Jesus, as Cindy has🙏🏽.
I can't talk to the church about my rape on the street as a 14-year-old girl. I am now 67. It still affects me today.Needs christian counseling, and I can't afford $200.00 a hour. Please pray.
I am so sorry and I will. I could have been a victim of a known celebrity but morals and common sense kept me safe. All those people who asked why the woman waited to accuse him - he used the same approach on me but I never took him up on his offers. My late mother and I were going to take him up on an invitation where she would be with me but I learned of a teen he approached in the gift shop of a hotel in Lake Tahoe. The same approach he used on me - 'come be a guest - I will send a car down for you and your mother' .. yet God was protecting us then - we were on airline passes (how I met him when he was a passenger and I had to serve him in 1st class) and could not make any stopovers on our way to Hawaii. I thank God to this day that He knew what I did not and protected me. I also never gave him my telephone number but he got it somehow and kept calling until i told him I needed my own room - he hung up and never called back. That's funny now - ! He would call and invite me to meet him at events - the time I told him I'd need a separate room was when he was at a trade show in Fl. He never called again and I was glad - I was very young and it was flattering that a celebrity would show interest but I knew it was more than him being nice and he also was married.