Some men rely on the bible to shield evil men, especially those who harm women and children. Any book that discourages you from reporting and punishing criminals is not a book to respect! (I actually heard a radio preacher discourage battered women from calling 911. He did not approve of shelters or police intervention. He told wives take the beatings, forgive him, be especially warm in bed, submit. Soon the man will be a Christian too. )
She should have brought forth charges. Why didn't her dad? Why didn't she? This woman waited 35 years and holds on the unforgiveness. Unforgiveness hurts the person holding it, not the person to be forgiven. From the Lord's Prayer: "Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us." She is unable to receive God's grace because she is holding on to hatred. She and her dad had their chance, but blew it. Why? The statute of limitations have no limit for s3xual abuse of a child. She needs to talk to a lawyer and to the police.
well, she sure as hell ain't no "young lady" now. Other than looking for cash, I don't see the motive coming out 40 years later with a matter that, apparently, everybody already knew about.
This woman waited 35 years and holds on to unforgiveness. Unforgiveness hurts the person holding it, not the person to be forgiven. From the Lord's Prayer: "Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us." She is unable to receive God's grace because she is holding on to hatred.
@@centariprime9959Just because you forgive doesnt mean you can't tell the truth have you not read the bible? The truth will set you free? Plus she was a 12 year old girl at the time.
@@deadboltzz5199 Holding on to unforgiveness only hurts you, not the person you refuse to forgive. Forgive to set yourself free. She had the chance to press charges. Her dad had the chance to press charges. The statute of limitations has expired. They have no recourse now. Coming forward now is too little too late and all she did is show her unforgiveness. That is only hurting her.
Cindy, you are a Warrior! Thank you for having the courage and bravery to keep speaking out. You are saving others, no doubt. I hope anyone who has ever been through similar abuse will know we believe you and we want to know the truth. This is NOT your fault.
I have been a member of Gateway Church for 12 years and I agree with you 100%! This is not the accuser's fault. I am so sorry that I supported a man and a church that let this happen. It is a pity that the statute of limitations has run out because Robert Morris deserves to go to prison for what he did to her (and probably others). Speaking for myself and all the members of Gateway who did not know about this, we pray for your healing and have no hard feelings against you. By the way, I will no longer be attending Gateway church because I feel that the powers that be knew about this and covered it up.
Did anyone else notice, that the first thing the liberal media did was to say, "That Robert Morris" was an advisor to President Trump? Gee, did the democrats pay that woman a lot of money to come out about this after all the years? I bet they did, anything to make President Trump look awful!
Even if he has received forgiveness & repentance he should have NEVER been in the office of a Pastor ever again & he shouldn’t be allowed around children! Matter of fact he should have been put in prison.
I agree 100 percent. It was unjust to all the unknowing church attendees. A crime that it was kept silent from them. If you ask me, he looks like a woman wannabe now!
My grandma got married at 13….. she’s seeking compensation 35 years later …… he could have lied if he wanted to protect himself but he didn’t …he confessed and owned his actions and has remorse
Majority of all the nice guys out there have a very terrible dark history but are now doing an amazing work in transforming others. So yes they are worthy to take those positions.
If this man would have molested your 12 year old girl, would you give him a pat on the back! He is a pedophile and he should have been arrested!@DorinaNowak
Morris’s acts against this 12-year-old child (not a “young lady” as he claims) are reprehensible. He abused her during a five-year period. He may have repented and been forgiven and restored by God, but not into ministry. From the first se**al assault on this child, he should have been arrested, processed, and made to register as an offender like everyone else. He is not above the law, quite the contrary, clergymen are held to a higher standard by God and men. Pursuant to 1 Timothy 3:2-7, from the onset, he disqualified himself and therefore has been unqualified to be a pastor since then. The kicker is that it wasn’t a one-time offense and there could be other victims through the years. While there is a statute of limitations in Oklahoma, there is no statute of limitations in Texas for Cindy or any other victim to file charges now.
Saul he killed lots of Christians and just watched Stephen get stoned to death! Jesus Christ turned Saul to the Paul on the road to Damascus so you know the rest of the story! No I am not defending Robert Morris or his actions I am simply saying God uses men how he wants!! His ways our higher than our ways!!!
Did anyone else notice, that the first thing the liberal media did was to say, "That Robert Morris" was an advisor to President Trump? Gee, did the democrats pay that woman a lot of money to come out about this after all the years? I bet they did, anything to make President Trump look awful!
You are correct. Texas has no Statute of Limitations on "S3x crimes involving children". She should pursue charges. Just seems strange that 35 years later.
@@centariprime9959 It does, but it’s more complicated or complex for the victims, especially in faith-based cases (can’t really find the correct terminology). It’s easier understood when you’ve been a victim yourself. It often takes a lifetime to process through the abuse and victimization by “men of God.” With that, I found this interview with a former pastor of Gateway Church and counselor insightful: th-cam.com/video/PWawzm11P74/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TlOMZwc9OAi8j2jy
@@centariprime9959 @centariprime9959 For some SA victims, it takes DECADES to overcome the trauma that they have gone through. I'm a senior citizen that can remember when childhood SA was stuffed in the closet by family members and it was up to the victim to report it. Families could be torn apart and the victim is blamed. Would YOU be willing to suffer the consequences of such actions by the people who were supposed to love and care for you?
Accusations are not proof of guilt. This is a matter of she said/he said. Since when did we become the soviet union where the mere accusation is enough to put you in the gulag.
Agree. Sadly, their followers allow it, in every Christian group. They are doing a good job though, in keeping up with Catholic priests and the Catholic Church though.🫤
This so-called man of God did not properly go through the American legal process just like any one of us would have to go through if we committed heinous acts such as this...The church elders and other surrogates...with knowledge of this crime...are just as complicit...
Jail time for what? The statute of limitations has long expired. Why didn't her father press charges? Why didn't she when she turned 18? Why was she quiet for 35 years? This sounds too much like Ebola-Jean Carrol, the wack-job in New York. This is a case of she said/he said. I thought we lived in the United States where there is a presumption of innocence. When did we become the Soviet Union, Comrade Lavrentiy Beria?
@@robinsonnier6887depends on the stature of limitations in that state. Can you ethically defend him not going to jail for abusing a twelve year old. If so, how much time should a 12 year old have to report his or her sexual abuse?
Thank you Cindy for speaking out. I know it took a lot of courage. I’m so sorry you not only had to be abused by this man, but he has been able to live his life “seemingly” scott free, But God saw & now it’s time for him to reap the consequences of his heinous sin. Keep speaking the truth because I’m sure you weren’t the only one.
@@brentshutt8511 Exactly! 35 years? Really? Why now? They let the statute of limitations expire. Edited: I’m wrong. Texas has no statute of limitations for the crimes to which Morris is accused.
@@centariprime9959 As the police and my lawyer told me "It is a felony NOT to report a felony." All of these people are enablers of the pedophile and should be in prison for not protecting their own child and any other child that revolting man has ever been around. EVEN if he did nothing to another child he must never be allowed to be around them or have any authority over them. All of these people throwing their forgiveness scriptures around are refusing to understand that God NEVER says that forgiveness means that you get a free pass on the punishment. YES, God forgives, but he can forgive anyone just as easily WHILE their criminal butt is rotting in the prison cell this man belongs in.
@@Immunity7 You are correct. She should have pursued charges. He lied about her age and deceived many. Debbie and the Elders knew. I will not be attending gateway until they all come clean. The Elders confess they knew and did nothing. Morris and wife Debbie should turn themselves in to the police and confess what they did.
If you know Jesus you know he will take care of this. Where is your faith? All these people out there commenting on this horrible thing that supposedly happened need to know god will have his justice.
I mean, we better remove the Pope, too. And there are a lot of Christians who voted for pedophiles in public office; yet there they are. But, at least they're not preaching God's Word, right?! As someone else said: forgiveness is for Cindy. Roberts forgiveness is between him and God. From the 'report' he went to her parents and asked for forgiveness; her parents chose not to prosecute. To bring it back up is to show not his 'fault' but her unforgiveness of the fault. Forgive and you will be forgiven! Unforgiveness is separation from God; even if you can quote scripture or read a verse from the Bible. Prayers for ALL involved is the best thing ALL Christians could do!💜
@@lindabraune814 You're missing the part where it is your duty to stand up AGAINST what is wrong and to also stand up FOR what is right. God never gave any Christian the choice to sit on their ass and do nothing. In fact in multiple places in the Bible he calls Cowards out and declares that they will spend eternity in the lake of fire. And so does this nation's laws by decreeing that it is a felony not to report a felony. Regardless of whether the crime was committed against your child or someone else's. It is still your duty as a citizen and as a Christian whether you like it or not. If you do nothing and are found out you go to prison. If you do nothing God condemns you for it.
@@KansasMiss-mf4bj So, he was supposed to walk her onto the stage in front of everybody? Please, write the speech he should have used that wouldn't also basically tell everyone who she was?
I stand with you Ms. Cindy💜 Pastor Robert became one of the senior pastors at the Mega Church I attended in approximately 2004 or 2005. My daughter was your age at that time. In knew Pastor Robert, my whole family knew him including my children. The Church has been one more about numbers & money. It is a travesty to my God & Savior. Many Blessings on your life💜
he lives in a 1.7 million dollar home in Colleyville Texas and instills guilt, shame and condemnation when he preaches about tithing to people and acts like he the boss of peoples money and people
Bless you for your bravery and what you have endured all these years. I work with foster children who have been sexually abused and we are mandated reporters. Biblical restoration does not mean going back to a leadership position. According to scripture, he is permanently disqualified from ever being a pastor. He should have been held accountable to the laws that he broke. Robert Morris did not repent. Himself and the elders at Gateway Church continue to minimize what happened by calling you a young lady. You were a molested child. What we see happening now is exactly why scripture says a leader must be above reproach. Even though it’s been many years, this is bringing reproach on God’s church and His name is being blasphemed. Thank you for your courage.
Agreed. This is why we are warned about wolves in sheep's clothing. They are NOT of us. The flock must be protected from criminals like this. He is NO pastor.
Don't know, but the more they do this, the more children are hurt. I _sincerely_ hope there aren't others that were bullied into silence by the church, but you know there probably are. There always is.
Lot's of adults make mistakes, just not with a 12 year old child. That's not a "mistake" that is a crime. Those with power often become a law unto themselves that know no bounds.
Morris & elders tried to pay Cindy off. Have her sign a NDA! That is not repentance. To call Cindy a young lady & flirtatious really is evil. 12 yr old!
Many people in different geographical places use the term young lady as a form of respect to a female. Some even use it when addressing matured women of higher ages.
It can take DECADES for a woman (or man) to come to grips with the trauma that was visited upon them. I've known families who brush the "dirty old man's" actions into the closet, thus invalidating the victim's ordeal and allowing the perp to continue his/her evil ways. Sometimes coming forward costs more than the victim can bear. Like losing your whole family for exposing the s3x abuser.. Another thought I have is if whomever was told about the abuse and nothing happened, why would it be different now? I spoke to a counselor friend of mine decades ago and his take was that more than half of women had been SA at some point in their lives.
@@alycewich4472he could have been very imature for a 20yr old ..not saying its ok...i dont think she would do anthing if he was poor .but hes worth over 100million.. ..my dad was 20 & met my mom at 13...she did look older...they dated later & they married wen she was 18 ...1940s
@@MikeC2K10God wasn’t hiding it; they were hiding it; God is just bringing everything to light. These things are starting to happen because the Book of Revelations is starting to be fulfilled, aka the return of Jesus approaching. God is not tolerating wickedness in his churches at this hour, especially from priests or preachers who are supposed to lead and teach the masses. Also, God does everything on His own accord. We may not understand sometimes, but we must understand that God is sovereign in all his ways and actions.
God, of the God of Gods Light. I David seek to use my key and ask in humility. Are the hearts of the meek saved or lost. Holy Grace delivers evidence of Holy Righteousness Provided United. Knowledge.
In Texas Some sex crimes against children have no statute of limitations for state prosecution. These crimes include sexual assault against a child and indecency with a child.
Just this morning I called the police in Southlake where this church to ask why this admitted pedophile has not been arrested. There response is - The statute of limitation has run out
Just this morning I called the police in Southlake where this church to ask why this admitted pedophile has not been arrested. Their response is - The statute of limitation has run out
@jhp2616 M.T. just confirmed my comment that, indeed, there is NO statute of limitations for child (*strict liability) molestation/rape in Texas. Additionally, Pastor Robert also committed the same act in Oklahoma-across state lines, clearing the way for a federal investigation by DOJ.
@@TheGothicdolphin What is M. T.? Well this is quite confusing to me for 2 reasons. 1) My Attorney told me just last fall that he couldn't continue with my case as he had thought because my case had surpassed the Statute of Limitations. 2) Just this passed Monday I called the police station in Southlake, Texas and asked why they hadn't arrested Pastor Robert. Their response was that the statute of limitations had run out so there was nothing they could do. If you have better information I'd like to know where to find it. Because everything I find on line supports my attorney's and the police's claim. "What Is The Statute Of Limitations For Sexual Abuse Lawsuits? {in Texas} The statute of limitations for sexual abuse lawsuits in Texas has been modified. Previously, child victims of sexual assault had 15 years to file a claim dating from the their eighteenth birthday. Adult victims of sexual assault had five years. That deadline is calculated from the date of the attack. However, in 2019, Texas legislators passed a new law that gave child victims more time to file. The new law allows for a 30-year statute of limitations on child sexual abuse. That deadline is calculated from the date of the victim’s 18th birthday. Initially, the bill exempted churches and nonprofits from the expanded statute of limitations. However, victims of sexual abuse protested this exception, and the House amended the bill to include those institutions."
Who is the us ? Certainly not me. I am not part of your us. It must be you and Robert Morris. You brought horror upon yourself just as he brought the horror upon himself.. The us must be you and him. I am not a part of your us..
God has called us to repent, Of all sin. No matter how terrible, if we repent and turn away, we are forgiven. This includes Pastor Robert Morris. Why is this looked at differently than other people’s sins? For example, a woman who used abortion as birth control. Many women have multiple abortions over a course of many years. That’s murder of a “child”. I see forgiveness extended to them very readily, as it should be, so why not this? If God can forgive it, so should we.
I grieve that this “inheritance of the pulpit” continues to this day, especially when crime is involved. It shows how they view the church as a lucrative business. It’s an abomination.
It’s a family matter that from what I’m reading was addressed a very long time ago. Only the family ( parents) had control of that situation. Still a family matter.
@@tomsanders5584 I think he means actual victims. Of course you'll have people lining up for cash. The problem I see is he got caught back then, so people would have been keeping tabs on him after that. It's not like Cosby situation where you had all these loose associations.
If we do not believe that Jesus died in our place and thus set the repented sunner free, then He died invaine. Pastor always said he lived an immoral life before Jesus saved him. He repented, had councelling, told his wife. That is taking repentance to a high level. God forgave him People please only cast a stone if you are without sin. Stop crusifying him.
He may have repented to God. But when he claimed to having an affair with a young lady he lied. You have to get consent to have an affair. A twelve year old girl is not old enough to give consent. It was sexual assault on a minor which is a crime.
STOP GIVING HIM GRACE ... HE MOLETSTED A CHILD ...A 12 YEAR OLD CHIILD AND LIED ... HE "CONFESSED" TO AN IMMORAL ACT AND AFFAIR ... WITH A YOUNG LADY ... HE NEVER TOLD THE TRUTH ... HE NEVER CONFESSED TO MOLESTING A CHILD .... THERE IS NO PLACE IN THE CHURCH FOR PEDOPHILES ....
You are correct. There is a significantly higher probability that there are other victims. And basically a non-existent probability that he has truly repented and abstained from raping other children.
I feel for this woman . You can see her hurt and bitterness. The time this should have been made right was woth her parents as she was still a child/ teen. It appears the parents did forgive him. It was their choice not to go to police. Years ago I saw him at the pulpit referring to a messed up time in his life,he became emotional and acknowledged his wife as being the reason for standing with him thru it and very grateful He started to weep. Truely you saw a repentant heart. Yet it was never disclosed what it was about. This was about 15 to 20 yrs ago. I am certain this was what it was about. I have found great signicance in the Lords prayer especially in lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil. We live in a very sexual society since late 70's till present. It was our ignorance as satan was bringing his perversion into society that the Church didnt take a stand against it and teach their sheep not to be led into temptation but be delivered from evil. Pastor Morris was young in age and in Minstry. The happening of King David and his fall to adultry and murder should have been considered but temptation as with King David who was not a young adult took root. Yet God never thru King David away .In fact He call him a man after Gods own heart. Abraham had sex committing adultry making a child with his servant after God had made a promise to him for a child with his wife. It really takes a willingness to see these situations thru Gods word His heart and mind. Being Carnal minded becomes our sin against God. Had Pastor Morris continued this Sin it would be different but he did do what the word says to do. Repent,turn away .He got proper counseling. I think about sins of my past and then remember the message of the cross is those sins were paid for by the Blood of Jesus. As far as the east is from the west avcording to the Word of God. As Christian's we want to embrace this truth for ourselves but crucify someone else for their past sins. We can not gave it both ways.We forgive as we want to be forgiven. My concern is why this eoman waited till now to come forth? Why publicly? Why not in private with the Church Elders and Pastor Morris? For this womans sake she needs to search her heart for these answeres. Her healing will only come from this and forgiveness. Time we who call ourselves Christians start seeking God for discernment in these issues. Most important we fo not let Satan use this to destroy.
Morris was supposed to confess and be trust God to get him through the consequences,not let others cover it up for him. He should know the scripture, Luke 12:2 For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known. 3 Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.
@@amiihatton He did not confess before the church and he allowed others around him to cover up his crimes. Proverbs 28:13 13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.
He should have stepped down. Sad how these pastors are falling left and right. No wonder people don't want to go to church and get salvation. God will judge.
What he did is a crime. This needs to be reported to the police. Texas changed the law in 2019 that this kind of crime has a statute of limitations of 30 years after the child’s 18th birthday. It’s still punishable. The church leaders that protected him committed a crime too.
Monsters hide behind many masks he new for decades what he did to a child and was married in her parents house hold I don’t care what that congregation say and how many classes he took he is a RAPIST still to this day he have destroyed a child incense I am so glad they got that predator and pray that God heals the lady that came forward and may God be with her and protect her 🙏🙏🙏🙏
If he truly repented, and only God knows the heart, then he is not a rapist. God does not define us by our past sins if we truly repent. The only sin that can't be forgiven is the rejection of Jesus. Without the blood of Jesus there is no forgiveness.
Wow, glad I'm not the judge at this trial. Which sin is worse - murdering Christians or abusing a child? Saul was responsible for the death of Christians. He truly repented and followed God faithfully for the rest of his life which ended with him being martyred for his Savior. Paul (as he was later called) was used of God to bring countless numbers of people to Christ in his time and through out history by those who believed the inspired writings he wrote that were included in the Bible. So even though he committed horrible crimes he found forgiveness with God, was restored and served God as a minister for the rest of his life. Peter, denied Christ 3 times in a row and ran away as a coward when his master was arrested and stood trial. He was in hiding while his teacher was dying on a cross. Yet, he found forgiveness and was used of God to bring thousands to Christ. He continued to serve Christ the rest of his life until he too was martyred for his faith. So what is the case with Robert Morris? I don't have enough information to make a judgment. I don't know if Robert truly repented. I know he has continued in the ministry and has led others to Christ and helped many. So was this a case of past sins not truly repented of catching up with him and judgment from God upon him now? Or is it a case of the forces of evil bringing this man down to prevent him from doing God's work? I don't know. God knows.
He molested a 12 year old girl. Don't you dare compare him to Paul or Peter. Paul was ardently persecuting Christians as a Pharisee well within his legal rights to put to death heretics. Jesus changed his heart and showed him that He was actually God, and Paul repented. He went around preaching and being beaten, jailed, shipwrecked, poisoned, and more all the while telling of his past sin in complete truth and giving the glory of his repentance to God. Morris has lied and evaded the actual truth for decades; if he was a TRUE man if God he would know his sin has disqualified him from church leadership according to scripture. This man not only minimized his "moral failing" he tried to blame the victim, refused to pay her counseling bills, asked her to sign an NDA, and wrote books based on his false testimony. We know him by his fruits, and his fruits are ROTTEN.
You would know if you read your Bible. It was Satan working through Robert Morris to rape that child 35 years ago. It was Satan working through the administration of that church not removing the pedophile as they should have. And it is Satan now using this situation yet atain (that he orchestrated 35 years ago) to deceive and destroy. If Robert Morris hadn't allowed Satan to use him 35 years ago this wouldn't be an issue today. All these naive people say "look at all the amazing good Morris has done in these past 35 years." And I say "look at how Satan is yet again using Robert Morris's sin today destroying faith in God, dividing His people, and dividing His church from society as a whole. Doing much more destruction than Robert Morris ever did good." THIS is a win for the cunningness of Lucifer. If Robert Morris had kept his dick in his pants OVER THE 4 - COUNT THEM - 4 YEARS that he continued to rape this child, then this would be a win for God. Robert Morris's depravity lost this win for God and made it a win for Satan. THIS IS A CLEAR CALL TO CHRISTIANS TO OPEN THEIR EYES! STRAP ON THE THE SHEILD'S OF FAITH IN GOD AND PICK UP THEIR SWORDS! THIS IS A SPIRITUAL BATTLE AND NO CHRISTIAN GETS TO SIT IT OUT!
It isn't for the victim or us to determine if Morris was truly repentant. He followed Biblical prodicle by confessing his sin and then going through a two year program or something of that sort. His past years since then speak of a repentant man who has turned from that behavior. What he did was wrong. No one should be abused in any way, however, why come forward now? God will judge Pastor Morris. It's our duty to forgive. My daughters were molested, no intercourse involved, by a neighbor many years ago. Thankfully, our daughters told us what was happening so we could stop it. It was difficult to forgive the man but I felt it was what we were supposed to do. We could have pressed charges but the Bible says to forgive. As a family, we worked hard to forgive him and eventually we did truly forgive him. We still feel good about our decision. My daughters are happily married and have given us seven grandchildren. I pray for God's peace to surround both the victim and Pastor Morris and his family. And I also pray that Christians don't lose their faith because of this. This isn't God's fault.
It can take DECADES for a woman (or man) to come to grips with the trauma that was visited upon them. I've known families who brush the "dirty old man's" actions into the closet, thus invalidating the victim's ordeal and allowing the perp to continue his/her evil ways. Sometimes coming forward costs more than the victim can bear. Like losing your whole family for exposing the s3x abuser.. Another thought I have is if whomever was told about the abuse and nothing happened, why would it be different now? I spoke to a counselor friend of mine decades ago and his take was that more than half of women had been SA at some point in their lives.
You are correct. This is not God's fault. As God's word says it is Satan's plan to seek to deceive and destroy. And God has given Satan full reign to do exactly that until God returns. This is clear and plainly written in the Word of God. Why Christian people refuse to see that and recognize it for what it is remains to be astounding to me. This is pure unadulterated evil in which Mr. Morris has allowed himself to be the vessel of Satan in this situation and has done so willingly. This type of evil does not come from a pure heart or good human being or sanctified believer. 35 years ago or yesterday this is still pure evil. This is not simply a human mistake. Raping a child once is certainly NOT "just a mistake." It is a hideous crime of soul crushing destruction. And raping a child repeatedly over a 4 year period only comes from a very deep well of true evil. Wake up Christians!
@@AndrewChedid how can someone be forgiven if they cant make restitution ? My dad spent my youth drunk. Things happen to me and my siblings because of his alcoholism that effect us 40 some year later. He destroyed our lives yet he is allowed to have the burden of guilt "wiped away by the blood of christ" and enjoy forgiveness while his children continue to suffer from the effects of his actions. How is this loving?
@@cruelcarp5516 I’m truly sorry to hear about your difficult experiences. Forgiveness, especially in the context of your father, can be a very challenging and personal topic. Different faiths and philosophies offer various perspectives on forgiveness and love. In many teachings, forgiveness is seen as a virtue that can lead to healing and peace. It’s often not about condoning the actions or forgetting the harm done, but rather about freeing oneself from the burden of anger and resentment. The concept of divine forgiveness is typically unconditional and separate from human justice; it’s about the possibility of transformation and redemption. Also, I pray you are seeking help and setting boundaries are also acts of self-love and self-respect. If you’re struggling with these feelings, it might be helpful to speak with a trusted spiritual leader, counselor, or therapist who can offer guidance tailored to you. Please take care of yourself, and remember that it’s okay to seek support from others during tough times. Your feelings are valid, and you deserve to be treated with kindness and respect. ❤
For all of the "Christians" here that have not sinned, keep casting the stones. One day, some "Christian" might do the same to you. Bless you Pastor Robert Morris. Thank you for your amazing sermons that brought my grand daughter to faith in Jesus Christ. May God's great love, grace and mercy carry you through your current tribulation.
1st Timothy 3:2 NLT “So a church leader MUST BE a man whose life is ABOVE REPROACH. He MUST BE FAITHFUL to HIS wife. He MUST exercise self-control, live wisely, and have a good reputation. He must enjoy having guests in his home, and he must be able to teach.” Some things are a MUST prior to the position/office of overseeing the flock of The Father. You sister MUST start studying to show yourself approved to God. Biblically he should’ve NEVER been an overseer/Pastor/Bishop or Elder. Let God be true and every man a liar.
That is a good thing that he told people about Jesus Christ, and helped them receive salvation. It is a bad thing that he carried on this secret sin for 5 years. The good things do not absolve him of the bad. This is the kind of sin/crime that means he must not be in any contact with any potential victim ever again. It is sociopathic, these people thrive on control and cannot help themselves. No, that is not an unforgiving spirit. I can forgive him, God can and his victim can. Keeping him from the remotest chance of falling into sin again is the least anyone can do.
In politics, movies, music, sports, jobs, churches, etc, etc,. Why do women keep doing the same thing over and over again. They wait half of their lifetime before they come forward with the charges. And a lot of times it after someone becomes famous. Yes what happened is horrible.
It can take DECADES for a woman (or man) to come to grips with the trauma that was visited upon them. I've known families who brush the "dirty old man's" actions into the closet, thus invalidating the victim's ordeal and allowing the perp to continue his/her evil ways. Sometimes coming forward costs more than the victim can bear. Like losing your whole family for exposing the s3x abuser.. Another thought I have is if whomever was told about the abuse and nothing happened, why would it be different now? I spoke to a counselor friend of mine decades ago and his take was that more than half of women had been SA at some point in their lives.
no purity calling girl flirtatious slandering innocent child and not calling it all his own sin crime and wanting NDA and not giving $$$$$$$ for alot alot of counseling
There is a shaking going on in the Body of Christ. Peter said, "Judgment must begin at the house of God...the righteous shall scarcely be saved" (1 Peter 4: 17,18). Peter is telling us that the "Church" is going to be judged. And that the "Church" is in trouble." God is a forgiving God. But there are consequences to our sins. Study the life of David.
I do not in any way condone this and think exactly like most of you commenting. However, my biggest question is why the parents of this (child at the time) did not push for justice? I'm not speaking as in the church aspect, I'm speaking as in the judicial system. Doesn't seem as though the parents were too concerned about their young daughter being molested. Preacher, friend, relative, I do not care who it is, they touch my child in that way, I will not stop until they pay for what they've done. The entire story makes me nauseous.
“For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?” (1 Peter 4:17).
Boys in their early 20s might legally be adults but might not fully understand what is legal or appropriate. As a married man though there should be no confusion.
This is not something that the church handles alone. This is a matter of getting police involved, but the parents knew also, now this woman has to live with it.
It can take DECADES for a woman (or man) to come to grips with the trauma that was visited upon them. I've known families who brush the "dirty old man's" actions into the closet, thus invalidating the victim's ordeal and allowing the perp to continue his/her evil ways. Sometimes coming forward costs more than the victim can bear. Like losing your whole family for exposing the s3x abuser.. Another thought I have is if whomever was told about the abuse and nothing happened, why would it be different now? I spoke to a counselor friend of mine decades ago and his take was that more than half of women had been SA at some point in their lives.
This goes all the way back to Shady Grove Church that still serve at Gateway today. They platformed him when he should have never been allowed to return to the pastoral ministry. The fact that their response wasn’t to acknowledge the wrong doing and strategize this week to do damage control tells you everything.
I know according to law, the Statue of Limitations for her ( the then young child) to compensated for damages, but can he still register as a sex offender by law ?
@@malindaallen718 The alleged accuser stated on YESTERDAY, she just want to be compensated for her cost of years of counseling, rightfully SO, and she SHOULD be.
I'm so sorry to hear this, and other being prosperity pastor I have heard him talk about his sex sins but nothing about molesting, statutary rape of 12 years old child. We hear about altar boys being molested, iv never understood why this was not reported to authorities. The church is not the law. Why was this child not protected?
God allows us to have the leaders we want. Not the ones we need. And finding out that the church will be handed over to the son should empty that congregation permanantly.
This happened 40 years ago. Who amongst us didn’t do shameful things in our past that we are remorseful for. Pastor Morris did what he was required and went in to fulfill his calling. People change. To me it’s testimony of Gods redeeming grace. The church has lost some fabulous teaching.
If he is truly repented he will be forgiven. Just like my cousin who molested me as a toddler and as a little girl. Even though my cousin was molested also and his siblings by a so called Christian man it was not right what he did to me. If Robert Morris steps down that would be the right thing to do. My cousin got aids yes he became gay later got aids he became born again and my mom was a witness to that I never told my mom until I was in my 50s once my cousin gave his life to Jesus Christ he was forgiven. What he did was wrong and anyone who abuses anyone or a child should be prosecuted. Because I know Gods grace and mercy a person who is truly repented will be forgiven. We have to learn to read our bibles and get to know God in a real way. I’m praying for both of them.
@@sandyjonas5195 Yet being forgiven by God does not mean you get a free pass on punishment for the crime. And so many of this man's supporters seem to think he should not be accountable for his crime. Yes, your relative was forgiven. But he still should have gone to prison for what he did to you.
I'm shocked to learn this. I thought Robert Morris was a Christian leader who would honour a child's sexual innocence. It doesn't matter whether you're a high profile pastor, if you don't honour these things, there can be dire consequences.
This tragedy is very complex.Cindy tried to tell, remember she was 12 yrs old..can you imagine the shame and horrir she felt as a victim..after no one wanted to hear the truth can you blame her. The good thing is she finally got some one to listen..Cindy is the victim, a child, he is the perpetrator of this tragedy.
If a man's Doctrine is messed up and that man refuses to use the pure holy perfect preserved word of God then you can almost guarantee that man's morals will be messed up as well
IF he has confessed his sin...sought restitution from the family...followed the counseling regimen prescribed by the leadership of the church...and has repented (turned from his sin)...then Biblically, we as brothers and sisters in Christ are to extend forgivenesss and RESTORE HIM AS A BROTHER IN CHRIST. BUT...because he betrayed the trust of this girl, this family and his congregation, he totally disqualified himself from the pulpit or any other leadership or teaching position, either personally, in books, on radio/TV or the Internet. No ifs, ands or buts.
He's been to counseling for years. Who's to say he didn't disclose this to his counselors? Who's to say he truly didn't repent? His behavior stopped. He sinned no more. We don't know if he stopped all sexual immorality, we just don't know if he addressed it (porn, etc) if there was any. Sounds like the family was aware. Maybe they forgave him then. Did the girl? Maybe he had too much shame and couldn't do his pastoral job anymore. What i know is that Christ forgives anyone. People should not condemn him.
Why on earth would she wait this long? She is 54 and said she was 12 years old when it started? 42 years??? Did it come out in counseling for her? Was it buried somewhere in her mind? And what on earth is WRONG with the elders who gave him a chance to come back to the church as a preacher? A pedophile? Really? He should have been barred from EVER preaching again. Did her parents know about this and fail to act? She says the statute has run out, but is that true since she was a child when it happened? I have so many questions about this whole scenario. He’s been living scott free and making tons of money for over 40 years and may continue to do so? There is SO much wrong here.
It can take DECADES for a woman (or man) to come to grips with the trauma that was visited upon them. I've known families who brush the "dirty old man's" actions into the closet, thus invalidating the victim's ordeal and allowing the perp to continue his/her evil ways. Sometimes coming forward costs more than the victim can bear. Like losing your whole family for exposing the s3x abuser.. Another thought I have is if whomever was told about the abuse and nothing happened, why would it be different now? I spoke to a counselor friend of mine decades ago and his take was that more than half of women had been SA at some point in their lives.
I'm not saying this to be rude. Just to catch you up a little. There is a great deal to this horrific story that you don't know yet. She didn't just now speak out. She's been speaking out about it all these years. She and I believe her parents went to the church and were greeted and interviewed by 2 particular men {who it turns out are also guilty of rape and sexual assault. Their sins have also been covered up by this same church). Those men convinced them that they didn't need to pursue this problem any further and not to involve the police. Just this morning I called the police station in Southlake where this church is and asked them why this pedophile who has admitted to this 4 year rape hasn't been arrested yet. Their answer is that the Statute of Limitation has run out on this type of rape.
@@jhp2616 did she say she had that type of sex ??? .....shes 54 now & hes worth over 100 million....just sayin ...my parents married young in the 1940s
@@dco956 I don't know what you mean by "that type of sex??" I only heard about the very first time. On Christmas night the very first time he doesn't admit it but she says he put his fingers inside of her. God knows what he did over the next 4 years. Most likely everything. But according to the police in my case when I finally reported they told me there doesn't have to penetration to be rape when it is a 12 year old child as I also was.
Adults with children, please be very wary of adults in power. No matter what, do not grant them access to your children. Also, teach your children not to idolize any adults. You see how easy it is for him to be covered? You see how he pretend that it’s a “young lady” when in fact it was only a little girl who he defiled for five years. Religious men are especially creepy and dangerous. Other people cover for them very well.
It's not a 'moral failure'. It's a crime.
Some men rely on the bible to shield evil men, especially those who harm women and children. Any book that discourages you from reporting and punishing criminals is not a book to respect! (I actually heard a radio preacher discourage battered women from calling 911. He did not approve of shelters or police intervention. He told wives take the beatings, forgive him, be especially warm in bed, submit. Soon the man will be a Christian too. )
It’s both..
It’s BS that’s what it is
@@bec5250 Just like Jesus said he who is without sin cast the first stone. Jesus has forgiven him.
@@waterfalltv7981 And now he should serve time for his crime. Again, you confuse forgiveness with allowing someone to evade accountability.
He should have gone to prison.
Agreed.
Absolutely.
Prayers aside,he would receive a " laying on of hands" if in jails prisons
She should have brought forth charges. Why didn't her dad? Why didn't she? This woman waited 35 years and holds on the unforgiveness. Unforgiveness hurts the person holding it, not the person to be forgiven. From the Lord's Prayer: "Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us." She is unable to receive God's grace because she is holding on to hatred. She and her dad had their chance, but blew it. Why? The statute of limitations have no limit for s3xual abuse of a child. She needs to talk to a lawyer and to the police.
@@centariprime9959Maybe it’s a cult stop blaming the victim if you know anything about wounded children you’d ask for forgiveness yourself.
First of all, if you aren’t HONEST there’s no repentance. She was no young lady, she was a CHILD, you were an adult.
well, she sure as hell ain't no "young lady" now. Other than looking for cash, I don't see the motive coming out 40 years later with a matter that, apparently, everybody already knew about.
This woman waited 35 years and holds on to unforgiveness. Unforgiveness hurts the person holding it, not the person to be forgiven. From the Lord's Prayer: "Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us." She is unable to receive God's grace because she is holding on to hatred.
@@centariprime9959Just because you forgive doesnt mean you can't tell the truth have you not read the bible? The truth will set you free? Plus she was a 12 year old girl at the time.
@@deadboltzz5199 Holding on to unforgiveness only hurts you, not the person you refuse to forgive. Forgive to set yourself free. She had the chance to press charges. Her dad had the chance to press charges. The statute of limitations has expired. They have no recourse now. Coming forward now is too little too late and all she did is show her unforgiveness. That is only hurting her.
@@l337pwnageyou sound gross AF.
Cindy, you are a Warrior! Thank you for having the courage and bravery to keep speaking out. You are saving others, no doubt. I hope anyone who has ever been through similar abuse will know we believe you and we want to know the truth. This is NOT your fault.
💯💯💯
@@carriemccurley-th8gn amen
I have been a member of Gateway Church for 12 years and I agree with you 100%! This is not the accuser's fault. I am so sorry that I supported a man and a church that let this happen. It is a pity that the statute of limitations has run out because Robert Morris deserves to go to prison for what he did to her (and probably others). Speaking for myself and all the members of Gateway who did not know about this, we pray for your healing and have no hard feelings against you. By the way, I will no longer be attending Gateway church because I feel that the powers that be knew about this and covered it up.
She was not a young lady, she was a CHILD. Step down Robert. Your church is a business, and an affront to God.
AMEN & AMEN
Amen
So his son gets to keep the store open. Gross.
@newdawn7586 gimme a break. So now his son is bad because of what his father did wrong?
Did anyone else notice, that the first thing the liberal media did was to say, "That Robert Morris" was an advisor to President Trump? Gee, did the democrats pay that woman a lot of money to come out about this after all the years? I bet they did, anything to make President Trump look awful!
Even if he has received forgiveness & repentance he should have NEVER been in the office of a Pastor ever again & he shouldn’t be allowed around children! Matter of fact he should have been put in prison.
I agree 100 percent. It was unjust to all the unknowing church attendees. A crime that it was kept silent from them. If you ask me, he looks like a woman wannabe now!
Paul repented and went on to preach bruv.
My grandma got married at 13….. she’s seeking compensation 35 years later …… he could have lied if he wanted to protect himself but he didn’t …he confessed and owned his actions and has remorse
Majority of all the nice guys out there have a very terrible dark history but are now doing an amazing work in transforming others. So yes they are worthy to take those positions.
If this man would have molested your 12 year old girl, would you give him a pat on the back! He is a pedophile and he should have been arrested!@DorinaNowak
Morris’s acts against this 12-year-old child (not a “young lady” as he claims) are reprehensible. He abused her during a five-year period. He may have repented and been forgiven and restored by God, but not into ministry. From the first se**al assault on this child, he should have been arrested, processed, and made to register as an offender like everyone else. He is not above the law, quite the contrary, clergymen are held to a higher standard by God and men. Pursuant to 1 Timothy 3:2-7, from the onset, he disqualified himself and therefore has been unqualified to be a pastor since then. The kicker is that it wasn’t a one-time offense and there could be other victims through the years. While there is a statute of limitations in Oklahoma, there is no statute of limitations in Texas for Cindy or any other victim to file charges now.
Saul he killed lots of Christians and just watched Stephen get stoned to death! Jesus Christ turned Saul to the Paul on the road to Damascus so you know the rest of the story! No I am not defending Robert Morris or his actions I am simply saying God uses men how he wants!! His ways our higher than our ways!!!
Did anyone else notice, that the first thing the liberal media did was to say, "That Robert Morris" was an advisor to President Trump? Gee, did the democrats pay that woman a lot of money to come out about this after all the years? I bet they did, anything to make President Trump look awful!
You are correct. Texas has no Statute of Limitations on "S3x crimes involving children". She should pursue charges. Just seems strange that 35 years later.
@@centariprime9959 It does, but it’s more complicated or complex for the victims, especially in faith-based cases (can’t really find the correct terminology). It’s easier understood when you’ve been a victim yourself. It often takes a lifetime to process through the abuse and victimization by “men of God.” With that, I found this interview with a former pastor of Gateway Church and counselor insightful: th-cam.com/video/PWawzm11P74/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TlOMZwc9OAi8j2jy
@@centariprime9959 @centariprime9959 For some SA victims, it takes DECADES to overcome the trauma that they have gone through. I'm a senior citizen that can remember when childhood SA was stuffed in the closet by family members and it was up to the victim to report it. Families could be torn apart and the victim is blamed.
Would YOU be willing to suffer the consequences of such actions by the people who were supposed to love and care for you?
Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD. Jeremiah 23:1
Please, pastor and his supporters, admit the heinous and predatory act.
He won't and don't be fooled, he is no pastor.
For Real!!!
Step down now. 🙁
Accusations are not proof of guilt. This is a matter of she said/he said. Since when did we become the soviet union where the mere accusation is enough to put you in the gulag.
@@centariprime9959 He admitted that he committed those acts. Her age is a civil and biological fact.
Stop "restoring" predators to the pulpit. No abuser should be returned to a position of authority over vulnerable peoples.
Amen
Agree. Sadly, their followers allow it, in every Christian group. They are doing a good job though, in keeping up with Catholic priests and the Catholic Church though.🫤
Seriously…you cannot restore a sexual predator, the Catholics do that too.
The churches get federal funding called the Fatherhood Initiative! Thats what keeps the pedos out of jail and into the churches, schools etc!
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!
This so-called man of God did not properly go through the American legal process just like any one of us would have to go through if we committed heinous acts such as this...The church elders and other surrogates...with knowledge of this crime...are just as complicit...
He needs jail time.
Jail time for what? The statute of limitations has long expired. Why didn't her father press charges? Why didn't she when she turned 18? Why was she quiet for 35 years? This sounds too much like Ebola-Jean Carrol, the wack-job in New York. This is a case of she said/he said. I thought we lived in the United States where there is a presumption of innocence. When did we become the Soviet Union, Comrade Lavrentiy Beria?
Now? After 35 years?????
Yes, he's a pedophile!
@@robinsonnier6887depends on the stature of limitations in that state. Can you ethically defend him not going to jail for abusing a twelve year old. If so, how much time should a 12 year old have to report his or her sexual abuse?
He needs to hire Hillary Clinton to Defend him. She LOVES defending men who rape 12 year old girls. She actually thinks it is FUNNY !
I am SO disgusted by this. Good grief Robert. Big difference between an “affair” and sexually abusing a 12 year old child.
@@johnheshion4660 Thank you for starting it like it is! #JusticeforCindy
Don’t care what he says or thinks.
He needs to be fired now!
Agreed!!
No more preaching for him!
No matter what the Church says or Morris. God knows Morris's heart and will know what to do with Morris and Gateway Church.
@@jwbjpb1338 in a lake of fire more like
He needs to be in JAILLL!!
Thank you Cindy for speaking out. I know it took a lot of courage. I’m so sorry you not only had to be abused by this man, but he has been able to live his life “seemingly” scott free, But God saw & now it’s time for him to reap the consequences of his heinous sin. Keep speaking the truth because I’m sure you weren’t the only one.
God bless you Cindy I also came out of a cult that had leaders like him 😢
The COUNSELOR SHOULD BE PROSECUTED TOO FOR NOT REPORTING THE CRIME TO THE POLICE!!!!!!! 😡😡😡😡😡
So should the dad. She told her dad and he did nothing.
Where was her mother and father?
@@brentshutt8511 Exactly! 35 years? Really? Why now? They let the statute of limitations expire.
Edited: I’m wrong. Texas has no statute of limitations for the crimes to which Morris is accused.
@@centariprime9959 As the police and my lawyer told me "It is a felony NOT to report a felony." All of these people are enablers of the pedophile and should be in prison for not protecting their own child and any other child that revolting man has ever been around. EVEN if he did nothing to another child he must never be allowed to be around them or have any authority over them.
All of these people throwing their forgiveness scriptures around are refusing to understand that God NEVER says that forgiveness means that you get a free pass on the punishment. YES, God forgives, but he can forgive anyone just as easily WHILE their criminal butt is rotting in the prison cell this man belongs in.
@@Immunity7 You are correct. She should have pursued charges. He lied about her age and deceived many. Debbie and the Elders knew. I will not be attending gateway until they all come clean. The Elders confess they knew and did nothing. Morris and wife Debbie should turn themselves in to the police and confess what they did.
Robert Morris has only been rewarded for breaking the law. He and his enablers need accountability. Tale as old as time in religious institutions.
And in Hollywood and in the gov't.
If you know Jesus you know he will take care of this. Where is your faith? All these people out there commenting on this horrible thing that supposedly happened need to know god will have his justice.
He needs to hire Hillary Clinton to Defend him. She LOVES defending men who rape 12 year old girls. She actually thinks it is FUNNY !
I mean, we better remove the Pope, too. And there are a lot of Christians who voted for pedophiles in public office; yet there they are. But, at least they're not preaching God's Word, right?!
As someone else said: forgiveness is for Cindy. Roberts forgiveness is between him and God. From the 'report' he went to her parents and asked for forgiveness; her parents chose not to prosecute. To bring it back up is to show not his 'fault' but her unforgiveness of the fault. Forgive and you will be forgiven! Unforgiveness is separation from God; even if you can quote scripture or read a verse from the Bible.
Prayers for ALL involved is the best thing ALL Christians could do!💜
@@lindabraune814
You're missing the part where it is your duty to stand up AGAINST what is wrong and to also stand up FOR what is right.
God never gave any Christian the choice to sit on their ass and do nothing. In fact in multiple places in the Bible he calls Cowards out and declares that they will spend eternity in the lake of fire.
And so does this nation's laws by decreeing that it is a felony not to report a felony. Regardless of whether the crime was committed against your child or someone else's. It is still your duty as a citizen and as a Christian whether you like it or not. If you do nothing and are found out you go to prison. If you do nothing God condemns you for it.
Minimizing & Gas lighting calling her a “young LADY” instead a 12 yr.old child.
Yep! He deceived the Gateway parishioners by saying that. He was trying to massage the message so it didn’t sound so bad.
He also said "involved" as if this was a consensual act between 2 people. He committed sexual abuse against a 12 year old child.
That's what maga members do.
@@KansasMiss-mf4bj So, he was supposed to walk her onto the stage in front of everybody? Please, write the speech he should have used that wouldn't also basically tell everyone who she was?
I called my daughter "Young Lady" for many years before her 18th birthday. What's wrong with Young Lady?
I stand with you Ms. Cindy💜 Pastor Robert became one of the senior pastors at the Mega Church I attended in approximately 2004 or 2005. My daughter was your age at that time. In knew Pastor Robert, my whole family knew him including my children. The Church has been one more about numbers & money. It is a travesty to my God & Savior. Many Blessings on your life💜
we call is all about nickels & noses $$$$$ and more people
he lives in a 1.7 million dollar home in Colleyville Texas and instills guilt, shame and condemnation when he preaches about tithing to people and acts like he the boss of peoples money and people
Bless you for your bravery and what you have endured all these years. I work with foster children who have been sexually abused and we are mandated reporters. Biblical restoration does not mean going back to a leadership position. According to scripture, he is permanently disqualified from ever being a pastor. He should have been held accountable to the laws that he broke. Robert Morris did not repent. Himself and the elders at Gateway Church continue to minimize what happened by calling you a young lady. You were a molested child. What we see happening now is exactly why scripture says a leader must be above reproach. Even though it’s been many years, this is bringing reproach on God’s church and His name is being blasphemed. Thank you for your courage.
Agreed. This is why we are warned about wolves in sheep's clothing. They are NOT of us. The flock must be protected from criminals like this. He is NO pastor.
Trying to convince her of her pain and suffering, she can speak for herself. Grown woman
To even be alone with a 12yo child in church is a no no.
He should have been arrested
He needs to hire Hillary Clinton to Defend him. She LOVES defending men who rape 12 year old girls. She actually thinks it is FUNNY !
Why did the church cover for him?
Senior Pastor, Robert Morris of Gateway Church, and spiritual adviser to Donald Trump, admitted to "inappropriate" behavior with a "young lady."
Money $$$
Don't know, but the more they do this, the more children are hurt. I _sincerely_ hope there aren't others that were bullied into silence by the church, but you know there probably are. There always is.
They always seem to.
Because business is more important than people.
Lot's of adults make mistakes, just not with a 12 year old child. That's not a "mistake" that is a crime. Those with power often become a law unto themselves that know no bounds.
Morris & elders tried to pay Cindy off. Have her sign a NDA! That is not repentance. To call Cindy a young lady & flirtatious really is evil. 12 yr old!
Many people in different geographical places use the term young lady as a form of respect to a female.
Some even use it when addressing matured women of higher ages.
@@Tina-ez5pgGateway’s legal team knew what they were doing when they characterized Cindy as a “young lady.” The term was designed to obfuscate.
@@Tina-ez5pgTina, she was a Child, period.
@@Tina-ez5pgTrue, even calling elderly fathers and grandfathers "young man"...
someone tell me -why was he a pastor after that ? why why why
The church values saving face over the well-being of the children of their own members. Thought we'd established that years ago.
you do the crime, you must do the time 🫡
Well, if he was illegal, that crime would get him probation, if even charged.
Why now? Forgive him. You are the prisoner of unforgiveness.
It can take DECADES for a woman (or man) to come to grips with the trauma that was visited upon them. I've known families who brush the "dirty old man's" actions into the closet, thus invalidating the victim's ordeal and allowing the perp to continue his/her evil ways. Sometimes coming forward costs more than the victim can bear. Like losing your whole family for exposing the s3x abuser..
Another thought I have is if whomever was told about the abuse and nothing happened, why would it be different now? I spoke to a counselor friend of mine decades ago and his take was that more than half of women had been SA at some point in their lives.
@@alycewich4472he could have been very imature for a 20yr old ..not saying its ok...i dont think she would do anthing if he was poor .but hes worth over 100million..
..my dad was 20 & met my mom at 13...she did look older...they dated later & they married wen she was 18 ...1940s
This is why there should never be a statute of limitations on sexual assault.
Prayer needed in this situation for the whole thing and everyone involved
he should have sought prison time....and forgiveness
God is starting to expose a lot in his church…
why was God hiding it all this time?
@@MikeC2K10God wasn’t hiding it; they were hiding it; God is just bringing everything to light. These things are starting to happen because the Book of Revelations is starting to be fulfilled, aka the return of Jesus approaching. God is not tolerating wickedness in his churches at this hour, especially from priests or preachers who are supposed to lead and teach the masses.
Also, God does everything on His own accord. We may not understand sometimes, but we must understand that God is sovereign in all his ways and actions.
@@sean1270 Wheat and tares.
God, of the God of Gods Light. I David seek to use my key and ask in humility. Are the hearts of the meek saved or lost. Holy Grace delivers evidence of Holy Righteousness Provided United. Knowledge.
Taking his sweet time about it.
Well, Mr Morris, if you are truly sorry, turn yourself in and do your jail time.
Lady , your strength for coming foward is admirable, i pray that continue to seek justice and find closure. God bless you.
Strength,? After 40 years ? I think there will still be a dark motive behind this , she’s 53 and now she’s courageous enough to??? Realy ? 🤔
@@micasa7771 She has been speaking out if you listened. The church swept it under the rug. He should be in jail. Your victim blaming is shameful.
@@micasa7771shame on you talking like that.
In Texas Some sex crimes against children have no statute of limitations for state prosecution. These crimes include sexual assault against a child and indecency with a child.
This is not true. My lawyers even thought that was true and were dismayed when they learned they would not be allowed to continue with my case.
Just this morning I called the police in Southlake where this church to ask why this admitted pedophile has not been arrested. There response is - The statute of limitation has run out
Just this morning I called the police in Southlake where this church to ask why this admitted pedophile has not been arrested. Their response is - The statute of limitation has run out
@jhp2616 M.T. just confirmed my comment that, indeed, there is NO statute of limitations for child (*strict liability) molestation/rape in Texas. Additionally, Pastor Robert also committed the same act in Oklahoma-across state lines, clearing the way for a federal investigation by DOJ.
@@TheGothicdolphin
What is M. T.?
Well this is quite confusing to me for 2 reasons.
1) My Attorney told me just last fall that he couldn't continue with my case as he had thought because my case had surpassed the Statute of Limitations.
2) Just this passed Monday I called the police station in Southlake, Texas and asked why they hadn't arrested Pastor Robert. Their response was that the statute of limitations had run out so there was nothing they could do.
If you have better information I'd like to know where to find it. Because everything I find on line supports my attorney's and the police's claim.
"What Is The Statute Of Limitations For Sexual Abuse Lawsuits? {in Texas}
The statute of limitations for sexual abuse lawsuits in Texas has been modified. Previously, child victims of sexual assault had 15 years to file a claim dating from the their eighteenth birthday. Adult victims of sexual assault had five years. That deadline is calculated from the date of the attack.
However, in 2019, Texas legislators passed a new law that gave child victims more time to file. The new law allows for a 30-year statute of limitations on child sexual abuse. That deadline is calculated from the date of the victim’s 18th birthday. Initially, the bill exempted churches and nonprofits from the expanded statute of limitations. However, victims of sexual abuse protested this exception, and the House amended the bill to include those institutions."
Nope ,,,,,just no ,,,,,DONT trust a pervert ,,,,ever
Judgement starts in the house of God. It is opening up and evil practised by pastors are being exposed. Preachers, pastors, have the fear of our Lord!
😢sooo sad! My God...Don't they know hell n God are real?? Can money blind us this bad?😭😭😭when did "church" become just a business 🙈🤦♀️
The became his enablers
@@bettyfraser3960 God is judging them...
Ecclesiastes chapter 12 verse 14
For GOD shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil..
Hmm... 🤔
Oh just stop with the Bible quotes. Just stop. Can you not see the horror that book has brought upon us?
You brought it upon yourself..
Who is the us ?
Certainly not me. I am not part of your us.
It must be you and Robert Morris.
You brought horror upon yourself just as he brought the horror upon himself..
The us must be you and him. I am not a part of your us..
He should’ve gone to jail, and he should step down as pastor he no longer fits the biblical criteria for a pastor
He never qualified, actually. The whole thing is a fraud.
God has called us to repent,
Of all sin.
No matter how terrible, if we repent and turn away, we are forgiven.
This includes Pastor Robert Morris.
Why is this looked at differently than other people’s sins?
For example, a woman who used abortion as birth control. Many women have multiple abortions over a course of many years. That’s murder of a “child”. I see forgiveness extended to them very readily, as it should be, so why not this?
If God can forgive it, so should we.
I don't think the preacher should be able to pass it on to his son..THATS SICK.. TO HIS SON..STOP IT!
Billy Graham • Franklin Graham
Oral Roberts • Oral Roberts Jr
John Osteen • Joel Osteen
Jerry Falwell • Jerry jr
I grieve that this “inheritance of the pulpit” continues to this day, especially when crime is involved. It shows how they view the church as a lucrative business. It’s an abomination.
It’s a business empire. Not a ministry
@@PInk77W1you left out Jimmy Swaggert & Donnie.
@@seth3209 I thought about him
But I wasn’t sure and I was too lazy to look him up.
Elders are as guilty they knew about this offense and hide it.
It’s a family matter that from what I’m reading was addressed a very long time ago. Only the family ( parents) had control of that situation. Still a family matter.
That’s over 5 years…. Look for more victims.
I'm sure you'll have folks coming out of the woodwork, don't worry 'bout that.
@@tomsanders5584 I think he means actual victims. Of course you'll have people lining up for cash.
The problem I see is he got caught back then, so people would have been keeping tabs on him after that.
It's not like Cosby situation where you had all these loose associations.
Maybe Gateway hasn’t read the Book of Timothy.
If we do not believe that Jesus died in our place and thus set the repented sunner free, then He died invaine.
Pastor always said he lived an immoral life before Jesus saved him. He repented, had councelling, told his wife. That is taking repentance to a high level.
God forgave him
People please only cast a stone if you are without sin. Stop crusifying him.
He may have repented to God. But when he claimed to having an affair with a young lady he lied. You have to get consent to have an affair. A twelve year old girl is not old enough to give consent. It was sexual assault on a minor which is a crime.
WTF are YOU hiding?????
She was 12 remember that
STOP GIVING HIM GRACE ... HE MOLETSTED A CHILD ...A 12 YEAR OLD CHIILD AND LIED ... HE "CONFESSED" TO AN IMMORAL ACT AND AFFAIR ... WITH A YOUNG LADY ... HE NEVER TOLD THE TRUTH ... HE NEVER CONFESSED TO MOLESTING A CHILD .... THERE IS NO PLACE IN THE CHURCH FOR PEDOPHILES ....
Read 1st Corinthians chapter 5: 1-9. The Bible says don’t even eat with this man… You gave a spoke a whole lot of Nothing…
He also probably has other victims. Hopefully they come forward.
You are correct. There is a significantly higher probability that there are other victims. And basically a non-existent probability that he has truly repented and abstained from raping other children.
Proverbs chapter 15 verse 3
The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good..
I feel for this woman .
You can see her hurt and bitterness.
The time this should have been made right was woth her parents as she was still a child/ teen.
It appears the parents did forgive him.
It was their choice not to go to police.
Years ago I saw him at the pulpit referring to a messed up time in his life,he became emotional and
acknowledged his wife as being the reason for standing with him thru it and very grateful
He started to weep.
Truely you saw a repentant heart.
Yet it was never disclosed what it was about.
This was about 15 to 20 yrs ago.
I am certain this was what it was about.
I have found great signicance in the Lords prayer especially in lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil.
We live in a very sexual society since late 70's till present.
It was our ignorance as satan was bringing his perversion into society that the Church didnt take a stand against it and teach their sheep not to be led into temptation but be delivered from evil.
Pastor Morris was young in age and in Minstry.
The happening of King David and his fall to adultry and murder should have been considered but temptation as with King David who was not a young adult took root.
Yet God never thru King David away .In fact He call him a man after Gods own heart.
Abraham had sex committing adultry making a child with his servant after God had made a promise to him for a child with his wife.
It really takes a willingness to see these situations thru Gods word His heart and mind.
Being Carnal minded becomes our sin against God.
Had Pastor Morris continued this
Sin it would be different but he did do what the word says to do.
Repent,turn away .He got proper counseling.
I think about sins of my past and then remember the message of the cross is those sins were paid for by the Blood of Jesus.
As far as the east is from the west avcording to the Word of God.
As Christian's we want to embrace this truth for ourselves but crucify someone else for their past sins.
We can not gave it both ways.We forgive as we want to be forgiven.
My concern is why this eoman waited till now to come forth?
Why publicly?
Why not in private with the Church Elders and Pastor Morris?
For this womans sake she needs to search her heart for these answeres.
Her healing will only come from this and forgiveness.
Time we who call ourselves Christians start seeking God for discernment in these issues.
Most important we fo not let Satan use this to destroy.
I couldn't agree more with you.
Morris was supposed to confess and be trust God to get him through the consequences,not let others cover it up for him. He should know the scripture, Luke 12:2 For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.
3 Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.
@pittsburghsteelers3552 He did repent. He stepped down for 2 years and sought council. He admitted so many times that he did wrong over the years.
@@amiihatton He did not confess before the church and he allowed others around him to cover up his crimes. Proverbs 28:13
13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.
Amen and Amen!!
He should have stepped down. Sad how these pastors are falling left and right. No wonder people don't want to go to church and get salvation. God will judge.
Correct God will Judge ❤ This however will not excuse a single soul for not seeking salvation
He did step down for 2 years to do restoration.
"The Gospel of Jesus Christ is vindicated not in the fact that Christians do not sin, but because they do." (G.K. Chesterton).
What he did is a crime. This needs to be reported to the police. Texas changed the law in 2019 that this kind of crime has a statute of limitations of 30 years after the child’s 18th birthday. It’s still punishable. The church leaders that protected him committed a crime too.
Monsters hide behind many masks he new for decades what he did to a child and was married in her parents house hold I don’t care what that congregation say and how many classes he took he is a RAPIST still to this day he have destroyed a child incense I am so glad they got that predator and pray that God heals the lady that came forward and may God be with her and protect her 🙏🙏🙏🙏
If he truly repented, and only God knows the heart, then he is not a rapist. God does not define us by our past sins if we truly repent. The only sin that can't be forgiven is the rejection of Jesus. Without the blood of Jesus there is no forgiveness.
Wow, glad I'm not the judge at this trial. Which sin is worse - murdering Christians or abusing a child? Saul was responsible for the death of Christians. He truly repented and followed God faithfully for the rest of his life which ended with him being martyred for his Savior. Paul (as he was later called) was used of God to bring countless numbers of people to Christ in his time and through out history by those who believed the inspired writings he wrote that were included in the Bible. So even though he committed horrible crimes he found forgiveness with God, was restored and served God as a minister for the rest of his life. Peter, denied Christ 3 times in a row and ran away as a coward when his master was arrested and stood trial. He was in hiding while his teacher was dying on a cross.
Yet, he found forgiveness and was used of God to bring thousands to Christ. He continued to serve Christ the rest of his life until he too was martyred for his faith.
So what is the case with Robert Morris? I don't have enough information to make a judgment. I don't know if Robert truly repented. I know he has continued in the ministry and has led others to Christ and helped many. So was this a case of past sins not truly repented of catching up with him and judgment from God upon him now? Or is it a case of the forces of evil bringing this man down to prevent him from doing God's work? I don't know. God knows.
He molested a 12 year old girl. Don't you dare compare him to Paul or Peter. Paul was ardently persecuting Christians as a Pharisee well within his legal rights to put to death heretics. Jesus changed his heart and showed him that He was actually God, and Paul repented. He went around preaching and being beaten, jailed, shipwrecked, poisoned, and more all the while telling of his past sin in complete truth and giving the glory of his repentance to God. Morris has lied and evaded the actual truth for decades; if he was a TRUE man if God he would know his sin has disqualified him from church leadership according to scripture. This man not only minimized his "moral failing" he tried to blame the victim, refused to pay her counseling bills, asked her to sign an NDA, and wrote books based on his false testimony. We know him by his fruits, and his fruits are ROTTEN.
You would know if you read your Bible.
It was Satan working through Robert Morris to rape that child 35 years ago.
It was Satan working through the administration of that church not removing the pedophile as they should have.
And it is Satan now using this situation yet atain (that he orchestrated 35 years ago) to deceive and destroy.
If Robert Morris hadn't allowed Satan to use him 35 years ago this wouldn't be an issue today.
All these naive people say "look at all the amazing good Morris has done in these past 35 years."
And I say "look at how Satan is yet again using Robert Morris's sin today destroying faith in God, dividing His people, and dividing His church from society as a whole. Doing much more destruction than Robert Morris ever did good."
THIS is a win for the cunningness of Lucifer. If Robert Morris had kept his dick in his pants OVER THE 4 - COUNT THEM - 4 YEARS that he continued to rape this child, then this would be a win for God. Robert Morris's depravity lost this win for God and made it a win for Satan.
THIS IS A CLEAR CALL TO CHRISTIANS TO OPEN THEIR EYES! STRAP ON THE THE SHEILD'S OF FAITH IN GOD AND PICK UP THEIR SWORDS! THIS IS A SPIRITUAL BATTLE AND NO CHRISTIAN GETS TO SIT IT OUT!
It isn't for the victim or us to determine if Morris was truly repentant. He followed Biblical prodicle by confessing his sin and then going through a two year program or something of that sort. His past years since then speak of a repentant man who has turned from that behavior. What he did was wrong. No one should be abused in any way, however, why come forward now? God will judge Pastor Morris. It's our duty to forgive. My daughters were molested, no intercourse involved, by a neighbor many years ago. Thankfully, our daughters told us what was happening so we could stop it. It was difficult to forgive the man but I felt it was what we were supposed to do. We could have pressed charges but the Bible says to forgive. As a family, we worked hard to forgive him and eventually we did truly forgive him. We still feel good about our decision. My daughters are happily married and have given us seven grandchildren. I pray for God's peace to surround both the victim and Pastor Morris and his family. And I also pray that Christians don't lose their faith because of this. This isn't God's fault.
It can take DECADES for a woman (or man) to come to grips with the trauma that was visited upon them. I've known families who brush the "dirty old man's" actions into the closet, thus invalidating the victim's ordeal and allowing the perp to continue his/her evil ways. Sometimes coming forward costs more than the victim can bear. Like losing your whole family for exposing the s3x abuser..
Another thought I have is if whomever was told about the abuse and nothing happened, why would it be different now? I spoke to a counselor friend of mine decades ago and his take was that more than half of women had been SA at some point in their lives.
You are correct. This is not God's fault. As God's word says it is Satan's plan to seek to deceive and destroy. And God has given Satan full reign to do exactly that until God returns. This is clear and plainly written in the Word of God. Why Christian people refuse to see that and recognize it for what it is remains to be astounding to me.
This is pure unadulterated evil in which Mr. Morris has allowed himself to be the vessel of Satan in this situation and has done so willingly. This type of evil does not come from a pure heart or good human being or sanctified believer. 35 years ago or yesterday this is still pure evil.
This is not simply a human mistake. Raping a child once is certainly NOT "just a mistake." It is a hideous crime of soul crushing destruction. And raping a child repeatedly over a 4 year period only comes from a very deep well of true evil.
Wake up Christians!
Thank you for your testimony. God bless you!
He was forgiven? Does that mean everyone involved is suddenly okay with it?
I don't understand how a person can have the Holy Spirit and molest a child for 4.5 years. And then hide it.
He’s likely been forgiven. However, it doesn’t mean the consequences aren’t going away
@@AndrewChedid how can someone be forgiven if they cant make restitution ? My dad spent my youth drunk. Things happen to me and my siblings because of his alcoholism that effect us 40 some year later. He destroyed our lives yet he is allowed to have the burden of guilt "wiped away by the blood of christ" and enjoy forgiveness while his children continue to suffer from the effects of his actions. How is this loving?
@@cruelcarp5516 I’m truly sorry to hear about your difficult experiences. Forgiveness, especially in the context of your father, can be a very challenging and personal topic. Different faiths and philosophies offer various perspectives on forgiveness and love.
In many teachings, forgiveness is seen as a virtue that can lead to healing and peace. It’s often not about condoning the actions or forgetting the harm done, but rather about freeing oneself from the burden of anger and resentment. The concept of divine forgiveness is typically unconditional and separate from human justice; it’s about the possibility of transformation and redemption.
Also, I pray you are seeking help and setting boundaries are also acts of self-love and self-respect. If you’re struggling with these feelings, it might be helpful to speak with a trusted spiritual leader, counselor, or therapist who can offer guidance tailored to you.
Please take care of yourself, and remember that it’s okay to seek support from others during tough times. Your feelings are valid, and you deserve to be treated with kindness and respect. ❤
Yes! Speak with a spiritual leader😂😂😂😂that would be first on my list. AH.
And who knows how many more kids he has damage. Remember you can get away from human justice but not with Divine justice
He needs to resign - I wonder if more children will come forward
She was a twelve year old child when it happened
God save us from perverted pastors. There seems to be so many of them.
Just fired? Just step down? No. He should step into an orange jump suit and step forward into the prison he deserves.
For all of the "Christians" here that have not sinned, keep casting the stones. One day, some "Christian" might do the same to you. Bless you Pastor Robert Morris. Thank you for your amazing sermons that brought my grand daughter to faith in Jesus Christ. May God's great love, grace and mercy carry you through your current tribulation.
1st Timothy 3:2 NLT
“So a church leader MUST BE a man whose life is ABOVE REPROACH. He MUST BE FAITHFUL to HIS wife. He MUST exercise self-control, live wisely, and have a good reputation. He must enjoy having guests in his home, and he must be able to teach.” Some things are a MUST prior to the position/office of overseeing the flock of The Father. You sister MUST start studying to show yourself approved to God. Biblically he should’ve NEVER been an overseer/Pastor/Bishop or Elder. Let God be true and every man a liar.
That is a good thing that he told people about Jesus Christ, and helped them receive salvation. It is a bad thing that he carried on this secret sin for 5 years. The good things do not absolve him of the bad. This is the kind of sin/crime that means he must not be in any contact with any potential victim ever again. It is sociopathic, these people thrive on control and cannot help themselves.
No, that is not an unforgiving spirit. I can forgive him, God can and his victim can. Keeping him from the remotest chance of falling into sin again is the least anyone can do.
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So what he can preach: so could the devil.
In politics, movies, music, sports, jobs, churches, etc, etc,. Why do women keep doing the same thing over and over again. They wait half of their lifetime before they come forward with the charges. And a lot of times it after someone becomes famous. Yes what happened is horrible.
It can take DECADES for a woman (or man) to come to grips with the trauma that was visited upon them. I've known families who brush the "dirty old man's" actions into the closet, thus invalidating the victim's ordeal and allowing the perp to continue his/her evil ways. Sometimes coming forward costs more than the victim can bear. Like losing your whole family for exposing the s3x abuser..
Another thought I have is if whomever was told about the abuse and nothing happened, why would it be different now? I spoke to a counselor friend of mine decades ago and his take was that more than half of women had been SA at some point in their lives.
no purity calling girl flirtatious slandering innocent child and not calling it all his own sin crime and wanting NDA and not giving $$$$$$$ for alot alot of counseling
Jesus. When will these types of men in the church be stopped.
. . . . . and women in the churches. It is not only the men in the churches committing these crimes.
There is a shaking going on in the Body of Christ. Peter said, "Judgment must begin at the house of God...the righteous shall scarcely be saved" (1 Peter 4: 17,18). Peter is telling us that the "Church" is going to be judged. And that the "Church" is in trouble." God is a forgiving God. But there are consequences to our sins. Study the life of David.
I do not in any way condone this and think exactly like most of you commenting. However, my biggest question is why the parents of this (child at the time) did not push for justice? I'm not speaking as in the church aspect, I'm speaking as in the judicial system. Doesn't seem as though the parents were too concerned about their young daughter being molested. Preacher, friend, relative, I do not care who it is, they touch my child in that way, I will not stop until they pay for what they've done. The entire story makes me nauseous.
“For it is time for judgment to begin at the household of God; and if it begins with us, what will be the outcome for those who do not obey the gospel of God?” (1 Peter 4:17).
Boys in their early 20s might legally be adults but might not fully understand what is legal or appropriate. As a married man though there should be no confusion.
This is not something that the church handles alone. This is a matter of getting police involved, but the parents knew also, now this woman has to live with it.
It is not just adultery but child molestation! He should never be able to lead in a church as well as never being allowed near young females!
His son? Keeping the millions of dollars in the family. Nice
My Q is why did this woman wait sooooo long to report this???
She reported it in 2005 also but they tried to get her to sign a NDA…research. Don’t think like a cultist. Think like a Christian. Follow “HIM!”
It can take DECADES for a woman (or man) to come to grips with the trauma that was visited upon them. I've known families who brush the "dirty old man's" actions into the closet, thus invalidating the victim's ordeal and allowing the perp to continue his/her evil ways. Sometimes coming forward costs more than the victim can bear. Like losing your whole family for exposing the s3x abuser..
Another thought I have is if whomever was told about the abuse and nothing happened, why would it be different now? I spoke to a counselor friend of mine decades ago and his take was that more than half of women had been SA at some point in their lives.
This goes all the way back to Shady Grove Church that still serve at Gateway today. They platformed him when he should have never been allowed to return to the pastoral ministry.
The fact that their response wasn’t to acknowledge the wrong doing and strategize this week to do damage control tells you everything.
I know according to law, the Statue of Limitations for her ( the then young child) to compensated for damages, but can he still register as a sex offender by law ?
She can sue him, the church, and the board of elders involved at that time.
@@malindaallen718 The alleged accuser stated on YESTERDAY, she just want to be compensated for her cost of years of counseling, rightfully SO, and she SHOULD be.
2 million dollars
It’s time for him to STOP preaching! If he got away with it, then he’s done it again! I can’t believe people haven’t handled this. It’s long overdue!
Leaders are just as responsible they just find another way glad the girl spoke out and received justice
I don't think she received justice yet.
Why is this woman bringing it to light 35 years after the fact?
That's what I keep wondering about her parents knew and did nothing she said she forgave him so why now
I'm so sorry to hear this, and other being prosperity pastor I have heard him talk about his sex sins but nothing about molesting, statutary rape of 12 years old child. We hear about altar boys being molested, iv never understood why this was not reported to authorities. The church is not the law. Why was this child not protected?
Maybe the parents decided not to press charges.
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God allows us to have the leaders we want. Not the ones we need. And finding out that the church will be handed over to the son should empty that congregation permanantly.
why is it that I believe he walked in purity until the next victim shows up ?
This happened 40 years ago. Who amongst us didn’t do shameful things in our past that we are remorseful for. Pastor Morris did what he was required and went in to fulfill his calling. People change. To me it’s testimony of Gods redeeming grace. The church has lost some fabulous teaching.
God will judge him.
If he is truly repented he will be forgiven. Just like my cousin who molested me as a toddler and as a little girl. Even though my cousin was molested also and his siblings by a so called Christian man it was not right what he did to me. If Robert Morris steps down that would be the right thing to do. My cousin got aids yes he became gay later got aids he became born again and my mom was a witness to that I never told my mom until I was in my 50s once my cousin gave his life to Jesus Christ he was forgiven. What he did was wrong and anyone who abuses anyone or a child should be prosecuted. Because I know Gods grace and mercy a person who is truly repented will be forgiven. We have to learn to read our bibles and get to know God in a real way. I’m praying for both of them.
As you will be also
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Yet being forgiven by God does not mean you get a free pass on punishment for the crime. And so many of this man's supporters seem to think he should not be accountable for his crime.
Yes, your relative was forgiven. But he still should have gone to prison for what he did to you.
Sad! Why did this take so long? She said.. she has been sharing for years ..but she didn't go to authorities? Just odd
We didn't have awareness of SA back then like we do now. Also they may have been pressured by the leadership. That is very common, sadly.
I don’t understand the response of the parents. Should they have reported the molestation to the police?
I'm shocked to learn this. I thought Robert Morris was a Christian leader who would honour a child's sexual innocence. It doesn't matter whether you're a high profile pastor, if you don't honour these things, there can be dire consequences.
Getting you human resources manual from the Catholic Church might have been your first problem.
This tragedy is very complex.Cindy tried to tell, remember she was 12 yrs old..can you imagine the shame and horrir she felt as a victim..after no one wanted to hear the truth can you blame her. The good thing is she finally got some one to listen..Cindy is the victim, a child, he is the perpetrator of this tragedy.
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God bless this woman. As for Robert Morris, he needs Jesus.
Rather he repented or not, he should not be pastor of any church. You just can't risk it.
If Pastor Morris isn't forgiven neither is anyone else.
take the log out of your own eye
He needs to step down and ask forgiveness for what he has done.
He has done all of that plus seek and continues to seek counseling! Now are you willing to forgive him?
For 4+ yrs!! A crime, not just sexual misconduct!
If a man's Doctrine is messed up and that man refuses to use the pure holy perfect preserved word of God then you can almost guarantee that man's morals will be messed up as well
IF he has confessed his sin...sought restitution from the family...followed the counseling regimen prescribed by the leadership of the church...and has repented (turned from his sin)...then Biblically, we as brothers and sisters in Christ are to extend forgivenesss and RESTORE HIM AS A BROTHER IN CHRIST.
BUT...because he betrayed the trust of this girl, this family and his congregation, he totally disqualified himself from the pulpit or any other leadership or teaching position, either personally, in books, on radio/TV or the Internet. No ifs, ands or buts.
It was a CRIME! And it was covered up. That's a CRIME, too: "accessory after the fact".
It is a felony not to report a felony.
The elders' CONTINUED denial just reinforces their culpability.
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He's been to counseling for years. Who's to say he didn't disclose this to his counselors? Who's to say he truly didn't repent? His behavior stopped. He sinned no more. We don't know if he stopped all sexual immorality, we just don't know if he addressed it (porn, etc) if there was any. Sounds like the family was aware. Maybe they forgave him then. Did the girl? Maybe he had too much shame and couldn't do his pastoral job anymore. What i know is that Christ forgives anyone. People should not condemn him.
God exposes those who do evil
Why on earth would she wait this long? She is 54 and said she was 12 years old when it started? 42 years???
Did it come out in counseling for her? Was it buried somewhere in her mind?
And what on earth is WRONG with the elders who gave him a chance to come back to the church as a preacher? A pedophile? Really? He should have been barred from EVER preaching again.
Did her parents know about this and fail to act?
She says the statute has run out, but is that true since she was a child when it happened? I have so many questions about this whole scenario.
He’s been living scott free and making tons of money for over 40 years and may continue to do so?
There is SO much wrong here.
She told several people over the years. th-cam.com/video/hAGmdYdyPzY/w-d-xo.html
It can take DECADES for a woman (or man) to come to grips with the trauma that was visited upon them. I've known families who brush the "dirty old man's" actions into the closet, thus invalidating the victim's ordeal and allowing the perp to continue his/her evil ways. Sometimes coming forward costs more than the victim can bear. Like losing your whole family for exposing the s3x abuser..
Another thought I have is if whomever was told about the abuse and nothing happened, why would it be different now? I spoke to a counselor friend of mine decades ago and his take was that more than half of women had been SA at some point in their lives.
I'm not saying this to be rude. Just to catch you up a little. There is a great deal to this horrific story that you don't know yet.
She didn't just now speak out. She's been speaking out about it all these years.
She and I believe her parents went to the church and were greeted and interviewed by 2 particular men {who it turns out are also guilty of rape and sexual assault. Their sins have also been covered up by this same church). Those men convinced them that they didn't need to pursue this problem any further and not to involve the police.
Just this morning I called the police station in Southlake where this church is and asked them why this pedophile who has admitted to this 4 year rape hasn't been arrested yet. Their answer is that the Statute of Limitation has run out on this type of rape.
@@jhp2616 did she say she had that type of sex ??? .....shes 54 now & hes worth over 100 million....just sayin ...my parents married young in the 1940s
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I don't know what you mean by "that type of sex??" I only heard about the very first time. On Christmas night the very first time he doesn't admit it but she says he put his fingers inside of her. God knows what he did over the next 4 years. Most likely everything.
But according to the police in my case when I finally reported they told me there doesn't have to penetration to be rape when it is a 12 year old child as I also was.
Adults with children, please be very wary of adults in power. No matter what, do not grant them access to your children. Also, teach your children not to idolize any adults.
You see how easy it is for him to be covered? You see how he pretend that it’s a “young lady” when in fact it was only a little girl who he defiled for five years.
Religious men are especially creepy and dangerous. Other people cover for them very well.
Fer needs to be locked up and given prison "friends".
These Pastors need to step down at lot of them isn't real.