Choosing an Effective and Humane Collar | Teacher's Pet With Victoria Stilwell
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While there are many great options for collars to train your dog to walk, there are also many bad collar choices as well. At the very least, bad collars are really ineffective for training your dog. But more often than not, bad collars can seriously hurt your dog, causing physical and psychological injury. Today, I'm going to talk to you about which collars are bad and how these should never, ever be used. I'm also going to talk to you about which collars are really good and effective for positive training of your dog.
In Teacher's Pet, Victoria Stilwell shows you how to employ her Positively Method to train your dog the right way, growing your level of communication to strengthen the bond between you and your pet.
Have a question for Victoria? She'll be checking in regularly, so be sure to leave your comments and questions below.
Victoria Stilwell is widely known as a dog trainer, author, and television presenter. Stilwell served as a judge on the CBS show Greatest American Dog and is best known as the host of the Animal Planet dog training TV show It's Me or the Dog, where she counsels families with problem pets and solves their dogs' behavior problems. In 2010, she launched Positively, the world's first global network of hand-picked world-class dog trainers dedicated to providing the public a brand name they can trust in humane, force-free training.
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It's so weird seeing Victoria not in black!
OMG so many negative comments :( Just wanted to say I have a husky puppy who enjoys pulling. We started the no-pull leash walking (walking in the opposite direction when she starts pulling) and positive reinforcement (giving treats when the leash is loose or she looks at us). To be honest, the first 3 days were gruelling. A month later, we are getting compliments by other dog owners at how well-behaved she is :) She rarely pulls now and if she does, I just have to stop walking and she automatically calms down and sits as she understands pulling will get her nowhere. Victoria's positive-reinforcement method totally works!
How old is your puppy
When I first started working at a Vet's office, someone brought in their dog who couldn't breathe. It was a Great Dane who had been on a choke collar his whole life and his trachea had collapsed from all the pressure all his years. Otherwise, this dog was heathy and it was heartbreaking to have this dog lose his life because his owner was uneducated about the collar. Great video.
If you have the time, please share this on my prong collar video too! I would appreciate it
guess what? that same thing can happen with a flat collar
Faygo Blooded that’s why proper training is so important. also harnesses are great and very safe :)
Flat collars can do the same thing and are actually worse bc they only put pressure on the front of the neck compared to a choke, prong, or martingale which distributes pressure around the whole neck. Chokes and prong collars are not bad or harmful to the dog IF they are used properly
idc a regular harness can be a good alternative if your dog has breathing issues but is the worst option if your dog doesn’t walk well on a leash because they are designed to let the dog pull as hard as it can while putting minimal pressure on the dog. That’s why sled dogs use them
This is invaluable. We were told by a trainer to use a version of a fabric choke collar on our staffie mix and we were so sad we couldn't do it. She's been perfect with a normal harness and I love her advice. Wish more people would think like this.
There is a reason why security and other work dogs often have chain collars/choke collars, because it's reliable if you have taught your dog how to walk well. There should be a room left in the choke collar and only used on dogs that know how to behave, dog that pulls and doesn't respond to choke collar it shouldn't be used in. If a dog walks fine, knows "no" or whatever correction word, connecting the "no" word to the chain collars "cling" noise makes it perfect tool to avoid even hard situations. The collar is not made for you to choke the dog, if that happens, you as the owner use it wrong.
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I actually use the mini educator on a SUPER low low level so it’s just a little buzz almost (I’ve tried it on myself to make sure) and I use it for recall and so basically she can go pretty far away and the buzz means come back and she gets a treat,
That is one of the ways you should use it. You should never use it on high levels (above 40) unless in an emergency. I still don't understand why trainers like Victoria think e-collar are so bad
That's exactly the way it is supposed to be used.
What about the natural correction by other sog? Bite right on neck ... any idea? Wrong thought?
no hate but human skin is thicker than dogs skin
that is like sticking a needle in your kids neck to teach them not to eat candy before dinner
I love gentle walk harnesses! I walk my Malinois with one, even though she's leash-trained. I just feel more comfortable.
Samantha Hornsby Oof this is an old comment. I wouldn’t recommend using one, they alter the natural gait of the dog and can lead to shoulder issues
omg you have a malinois?? i hope it has a job haha i’ve heard they’re super wild.
Grace Dwelle She ended up being a tripod, so was not fit for work. She wasn’t wild at all, she was well trained and mannered
L A that’s so great! i’m glad you trained her well :)
@@TheGlidandDelRioRailfan I wouldn't get one
Harnesses and collars can be just as painful and damaging. It's how the tools are used that makes the difference. Every tool can be harmful if used incorrectly and used in the wrong situation. You need to assess each situation individually and use the least intrusive most affective method.
harnesses that tighten can be just as painful, but one that doesn't is WAY better than using a prong collar. The issue is, the average owner doesn't know ANYTHING. Better to teach them how to train a proper "heel" rather than relying on equipment but that can take weeks. In the meantime, the wonder walker harness clipped to the collar works best. but yes, a harness can be damaging if you have a powerful dog pulling so hard on it....but a prong collar would only be worse!
@@LisaGallegos a prong collar would only be worse if it wasn't fitted properly
Shazza not Dazza yes but she isn’t wrong these are a hell of a lot better than Those abusive peace’s of shit
@@parisambrose9114 if you're referring to prong collars/e-collars, they aren't abusive
@@auxobl I 💯 agree. I have a house full of pitbulls and some need it on our pack walks and some don't. The problem is that a lot of people think it's a punitive tool which is an abuse of the tool. Prongs if used correctly are a great way to fix walk issues but they should always be used with light pressure at a standstill to communicate the did is out of pocket and the second they give a little give complete slack. I've never used an ecollar with enough stim that I could even feel it. Dogs don't require that much as their necks are so sensitive. Cheaper collars can be painful as they don't have properly metered levels of stim.
Totally agree!! I have to re-train soooo many dogs who went to so called "All - Positive dog training ONLY" and get no result and have to come to us for help. Those tools when use correctly give you reliability. I believe balance dog training ONLY!!
Do you mean you do use those collars?
@@ishwarilaughing6256 yes. those collars are amazing training tools
Yes!!! She completely came into this video with an agenda. That is not hoe e-collars and prong collars are used. This entire video is based off of ego and ignorance.
E-collars are not used to give dogs shock when they do something you do not like. I haven't learned the use of the other ones, but let me tell you if she believes E-collars are for shocking into submission, she has no idea what she's talking about. (Of course improper use by uneducated people often does shock them.) The way an E-collar is intended to be used is you put it at the lowest setting the dog can feel. On the mini educator E-collar the setting is 1-100. It gives you the ability to basically tap on the dog's shoulder like "hey I'm telling you something." It's a tiny buzz you use when giving a command to let the dog know "hey i'm telling you something." This is especially important for recall when you don't want your dog running off into the woods to get mauled by a boar. So if I tell my dog to sit I hit the button and it's telling my dog that hey this buzz means I want you to do something. It's exactly like leash tension. "Hey puppy come here" *press the collar* it's a tiny buzz that can be used at a long distance to tell the dog "hey i'm asking you something, listen up." If you think this is cruel, I guess we should ban teachers from simply patting a kid on the back when they're horse-playing and not listening to verbal cues. But hey that's basically HITTING the child, we need to ban it. E-collars. Are. Not. Punishment. Tools.
@@erin.elizabeth. Thank you! I agree about the prong collar as well. It helps a lot with communication especially with breeds like huskies
Except the problem is that the general public doesn't use them "properly", and the majority of people like my neighbor who buy them are in fact buying them to cause their dog just enough pain in hoping they knock off the behavior. My neighbor's dog is now more anxious and jumpy because she was irresponsible with a shock collar and an invisible fence. I shake my head when I see people like you and trainers using outdated methods trying to justify the use of such equipment. It's just not worth it. The negative results far outweigh the positive ones. I suggest you look up some of the many studies that have been done on the use of these collars.
@@heatherburroughs4484 e collars and prong collars are not designed to harm a dog. A well made e collar uses an electric stimulation, not a shock. A well made prong collar with prongs going opposite directions and made to not be sharp or cut off on the end helps distribute the force put onto it far better than a flat collar does. Flat collars damage a dog's larynx and trachea more than either of these two collars. And the fact that the public uses them improperly makes it all the more important we educate on the proper use of these tools. These tools aren't even outdated. Balanced dog training takes all 4 quadrants, positive reinforcement, negative reinforcement, positive punishment, and negative punishment. And each dog needs a different training method to the next one. You support a woman who has put dogs in danger while calling equipment that keeps dogs out of trouble/danger abusive? And every study I've ever read against prong/e-collars use improper teaching methods/using low quality equipment that sets it up for failure. There are also studies and well respected training companies/trainers in general that support the proper use of these collars. Using an example of an uneducated person using low quality training tools gives no reason to ban a tool entirely. I will not reply more because I do not want to get into an argument, but @leerburg has many good videos addressing concerns on ecollars and prong collars. That is all.
My vet says that most dogs with neck or spine problems have been walked on a Head Collar or the slip chain was not used correctly. Surprisingly he said that dogs that walk on a prong are less likely to have problems due to the gentle way it puts out it's pressure!
Any collar in the wrong hands can cause issues. That is why you read up on things before purchasing them. Oh and take what your vet says on training methods and equipment with a grain of salt. He or She is a DVM not a CDT. They only see the cases where it causes harm and that is usually do to the owners lack of knowledge on how to use a collar or piece of training equipment properly.
I won't take it like a grain of salt. She is a far better vet then ANYONE I've went to. She even showed us techniques to stop over excitement. She is related to us too, she can call out to house or wherever you may be. She is also our vet for the cattle! Don't judge a situation like you did with a stuck up manner. I was only sharing what was said. Why are you telling me information that I don't need? Your quite frankly just a stuck up person that trained a dog to sit and sharing your EXPERIENCE!
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Alright, you always walk dogs "well on the leash" without distractions 🤣
She’s trained dogs around distractions a lot of times, just watch the it’s the dog or me videos
We have a 60 pound boxer. I always loved Victoria's advice but I disagree here. I used to protest against a shock, prong or choke collar. We got our boxer a harness and he just pulls. We were in petsmart and he pulled so hard he gave me blisters. We tried a choke collar but I noticed he kept pulling. He needs walks but I've had to let go of the leash because he pulls so hard. We have a neighbor with 5 small yappers and he would get out of his harness at it's tightest setting. We can't afford tr
It amazes me the amount of people upset over what she has said. She’s absolutely right, the people who use these contraptions use them for fast results. If your dog doesn’t listen to you without having to use one of these then you haven’t built a relationship of respect with your dog. Plain and simple!
What on earth are you yammering on about, you dreadful halfwit!? X
All these collers are pure abuse!!
well my grandparents shepheards all have e-collars... since they need to protect the lifestock from predators and all. But sometimes, they get into tunnelvision(recall doesn't work then) that only chasing the predator off isn't enough, they run after them, trying to inflict more damage... That's when my grandparents click on the lowest lvl of the collar, getting them to refocus and come back. I had the e-collar on my own neck and turned it to the lowest, it didn't hurt but did give me a little buzz and a spook. Kind of like being bitten by a mosquito or something. So yeah, basically without e-collars many of the shepheards would have been seriously injured or maybe killed. It's not all that bad, I mean if you have tried it on yourself, it can snap your dog out of their tunnelvision.
that is the only way i could see this as a positive thing, if the dog is dangerous or endangering itself then it is justified to inflict a little bit of pain. only if nothing else works and its a matter of time, but im sure that most people just do it because theyre lazy and dont want to communicate with their dog properly
@@MacetazzOpina yeah most people
Me and my family have four dogs all of which have prongs and the equipment that we use has been well recommended to use by a professional trainer, not that you're not a professional, but I think each trainer has their own opinion on the equipment that they use and that's fine. 2 of are dogs are service dogs and 1 is a therapy dog in training. And our oldest dog who is 10 years old now, that is a whippet mix, is a highly protective/dangerous and we have used harness and gentle leaders and he ended up hurting himself trying to get them off. And we have found that the only thing that has ever worked for him are the prong and e collar. We have had 3 trainers give up on him and had one say he needs to be put down because he is unfixable, the only trainer who would ever work with him did tell use that he would never be perfect but she could help me to have control of him but he will be a dog that can not be trusted with anyone except for my 3 older siblings, mom, and grandma. We know that there is no fixing him but the equipment we use helps us keep that control and someone shouldn't be criticized for what equipment they choose to use on their dog as long as it is not being used for abusive purposes and is not being used incorrectly. Also we have put the equipment on ourselves and have had no issues, my mom went all the way up to 7 on the e collar and she didn't even flinch.
Shock collars can be used in a good way, it can vibrate. There's just so many people who dont know how to use it.
And harnesses are the worst, it increases leash pulling.
Let me correct you, but those are called bark collars and they just vibrate the dogs neck, it feels like a little tickle to them. My friend uses it on his dog because he barks at everyone. Also harnesses are not bad they are used in training for dogs who pull and owners who are rough with their dogs walking. If your dog is trained to walk properly they can just walk on any collar. So yeah
@@erdalkocak7618 Many shock collars... can you give some brands? are you talking about mini educators and dogtras or pet safe and other cheaply made shock collars. the expensive ones (mini edu, dogtra) have levels from 1-100 most dogs working level is liek a 4-10 (they are not yelping working level means they move a bit have any sort of reaction thats their working level. Also noo front clip harnesses are what disgust me it can cause shoulder damage.
@@erdalkocak7618 Okay... then they are using unsafe shock collars, these i do not support but the mini eduator and dogtra will not hurt most people cant feel their dogs working level
@@erdalkocak7618 I think positive reinforcement is great for a lot of dogs while some do need the correction with positive reinforcment, somem dogs just dont respond well to positive reinforcement while others do better. Honestly i think it jsut depends on the dog
@@mariamplays2331 E-collars also can vibrate. Here is a presentation with some information about these collars:
th-cam.com/video/YWsZJ9EKehE/w-d-xo.html
Cheers.
And I like Victoria's positive reinforcement methodology...
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Help me i have chichuahua puppy who is 6 mounts old ever since got him he chews on his color while its on his nake i need find a coller that can last long with him biting or scrathing the color untill it brakes
Are vibrating collars ok
They have no electrostatic in them just a small fan that vibrates the collar, it also has a sound mode to tell your dog it has done something wrong
My dad's getting one and I'm really nervous about it but every time we try to train him outside it feels like we're talking to a wall and I'm kind of stuck here, any advice?
We got my dog when I was little and owe professional trainer gave us a prong collar, not the kind she had but the kind that opens, and we believed it was the best way. He is a great walker so didn't end up using it really and trained him well. Now I see that even if he doesn't pull on it it's bad. I wish I had known this as a kid and never let him wear it. I'm getting him a new regular leather collar. I don't think he is abused but he will not be using that collar anymore. I love my dog more than anything and I hope they aren't as bad as you say, because he seems happy but I see now that the collar isn't right.
I can't believe a trained professional told us to use this collar and my parents, and later me, continued to use it
Remus Black they aren’t as bad as she says they are. They are great training tools and as long as you have a quality brand and know how to properly use it, your dog will be fine.
@@smolsandkat3075 exactly.
I us the proug collar on my dog and she don't pull me she listens to me on
Tiff Sawyer same here. she acts like it’s knives going into the dogs neck. it doesn’t hurt them i’ve tried it on myself.
great!💞
Guys the issue is people use it incorrectly and they dont learn
Pain controls your dog, not you. Here those are illegal.
@@NK-ry9ki no u can’t throw a prong collar on a dog and they all of sudden don’t pull tools don’t train dogs
You can tell she is really passionate about this topic..and the fact that people use some of those painful collars. I like that.. She cares about the animals comfort at all times.
clearly she is very uneducated on training tools and obviously ignorant on how to use them correctly. my dogs all use training tools. prongs are actually my favorite because if used correctly they are very effective. it goes right behind the ears as to not damage the trachea or block any sort of air flow. the prongs distribute even pressure around the neck and cause no pain. i’ve used it on myself and pulled as hard as i can and i felt zero pain. my other dog uses an ecollar, not at all the same as a shock collar. ecollars send a quick vibration through the rounded prongs and give your dog a correction. none of these tools are abuse in the slightest unless used incorrectly. choke chains i don’t particularly like because they slip down and can damage a dogs trachea if not fitted properly, but balanced training, in my experience, has been the most effective. i’ve trained my dog to walk on a leash and to ignore other dogs and people using a prong and he’s still super happy.
The thing is many people dont know how to use it and it can damage the dogs neck, would you like it if someone made you put on a fucking collar which can literally fucking make your trachea fuckibg collapse because your pulling on it or it caus es you physical pain on a area that is extremely delicate?
@@e.tisreal2568 prongs actually rarely do any damage to a dog's neck.
There have been studies where groups of dogs who wore prongs vs chocke collars vs flat (or 'normal') collars were followed throughout their lives. There were 3 groups of 50 dogs. Out of the 50 dogs that wore prongs only 2 had any neck damage, and one of them was inherited. In the other 2 groups, flat and choke collars, more than 40 in each group had some form of damage that appeared as a result of the choke/flat collars being used.
Victoria is probably my top favourite dog trainer. She really knows what she's doing and she is able to explain it in a way that everyone can understand. You can see that she genuinely loves and cares for dogs as opposed to just treating them like a means to earn money. She's also very patient with owners but at the same time doesn't take any bullsh*t from them and knows when to put her foot down. I've only recently started watching her videos and I'm absolutely bowled over by her professionalism, skill and attitude towards dogs. Very refreshing to see someone with her energy and passion. Keep up the good work! ❤️🐶
When I adopted my Border Collie she had burns on her neck from a shock collar being turned up too high and being "zapped" too long. That we one of the reasons she was taken from her old owner.
I love the facts that were below Victoria. The most important is that dogs learn to fear their environment because of these.
My BCs use the chest harnesses. Love them!!!
Thanks Victoria!
If you would like, please share this on my prong collar video too! I would appreciate it
we used to have a water collar that would spray a bit of water on to the back on the neck to hep prevent barking, didn't work, so in the bi it went
but we had 3 different sized harnesses for our dog, a pup one, a teenage one and a dog one, they work really well, ceuase it's the chest they are pulling at and not the neck
@ 4:39, is there a certain name to that type of harness?
I have had and have deaf Great Danes, and I don't necessarily agree that a vibrate/nick collar should never be used. BTW...we tested the levels on ourselves before we chose the level we set it on. I agree with her on other things, but she's waaaay off base by making a blanket statement.
Misinformation no1. Normal Flat buckle collars can colapse dogs tracheas as well. The pressure is all in one spot, the front and most vulnerable place.
2. Prong collars are not designed to dig into the neck, they are designed to put the pressure all around the neck, which takes the pressure off the front of the dogs neck.
3. A flat buckle, gentle leader and harnesses all cause pain, the dogs just push through it.
4. E collars are not used to shock, mine goes from 1- 127, i can only just feel it on a 14.. guess what my dog works on 4-5. Its used to help improve the dogs obedience once they know it from reward based training. Yes it is used to stop behaviors, but that's is 1% of the use, the rest is on the dogs working level (below what we can even feel)
5. Those studies... They didn't teach the dogs, they randomly shocked the dog, OF COURSE the dog had negative feedback.
6. Time and effort... My dog went from a harness, to a flat buckle, to a prong for walking... And I use food ON walks, 70% of his food is fed by hand, just because we use tools you don't agree with does not mean no time Is put in,
Finally... Guess what, my dog came to me, he was aggressive, guarding everything, nervous and always on edge. I tried harnesses, normal collars, positive reinforcement for bad behaviors.... It got worse. Now 4 months later he is at ease, he loves walks rather than being on edge the whole time, he plays outside and if he sees a person he looks at me to check if its okay, and then goes back to playing and goofing off.
that’s awesome! i use a e collar for recall and obedience and a prong for walks! their amazing tools!!
Thank you.
I have two dogs that I try to walk on a regular basis. They both pull, but one of them is still controllable with a regular collar. The other one, however, has a thick neck (as thick as his head) with a lot of excess skin. Because of this, nothing holds. Regular collars, harnesses... he’s managed to get loose with both. I’ve been wanting to try the gentle leader head collar thing. Might be awkward since I walk them on a double leash now. Im a little skeptical though because he pulls in all direction, even backwards. So it seems almost pointless to use gentle leaders or chest harnesses that make the dog turn around when pulled. He’ll just pull backwards until he gets loose. But currently, I’m using a half-choke collar on him. Seems to be the only thing that works so far. Half of it is a regular collar and the other half is chain, so it doesn’t choke all the way, just tightens the collar a bit when he pulls. I still don’t like the fact that it’s not the most comfortable thing for him.... hopefully the head collar will be a decent enough alternative...
I’m curious what Victoria would say about a martingale collar. I have a dog that is harness trained, but he struggles with a standard buckle collar because he knows he can slip out of it. That is dangerous for us because if he saw something he wanted to chase he could get off lead this way and be hurt. A martingale doesn’t restrict past a certain point but it would make it so the collar tightens up enough so he can’t slip out if he tries to pull a back out maneuver. Any thoughts on this?
I clip the FRONT of the harness to a regular flat collar. I think no matter what, your pup needs to be trained to walk calmly on a leash by your side. No tool is going to magically fix that. But the harness clipped to the flat collar is a better alternative and is harder to slip out of as you have "double protection." I have a whole video on my favorite harnesses if you want to check it out :)
5:15 squirrel!! lol
4:33 Why would you ever want to get to a point where you attach a rope to your dogs neck? I like walking my dogs with the knowledge that their necks won't be damaged, even if I have to unexpectedly pull them out of someone's way or if I trip/slip and fall, their necks will be left intact. If you can train a dog to walk well with a harness, why not just continue using it for the rest of the dogs life?
Because prong collar use the same correction that dogs use by nipping at the neck primarily the mother to the puppy, it's a language they under stand, now can it be don't other ways sure, but they are less effective and more difficult to proof
@@dylancloud97 "proofing" by definition means that you won't need to correct the dog anymore (or at the very least, not on a regular basis), so why would you still want to have a tool on the neck that can potentially damage the dog's spine?
Also, have you ever actually seen a mentally sound dog "nip" another dog on the neck? I sure haven't. The only dogs who do that, are the ones who are stressed by some other problem in their environment/mismanagement on the owner's part.
What do you mean by "effective"? I find harnesses perfectly effective at giving me something I can attach a leash to, and avoid being fined when I walk them in "on-leash" areas. I like to have my dogs trained so that they'll listen regardless whether I have a leash on them or not, and as such, I'd rather not use a training method that relies on leash pressure.
Okay, I do know what you mean by "effective". An untrained dog is less likely to repeatedly throw their entire weight into a prong, and as such, it's a more effective way to walk an untrained dog without getting your arm pulled out of the socket. Pulling on leash is unhealthy in most situations, so I understand the merit in using a prong temporarily, until one can find the time to actually teach proper leash-yielding manners, but to view it as an end goal? No way, thank you.
@MMYY The person was talking about effective tools of control, not effective training. There's a world of difference between those two things. Training should not require you to risk the dog's health.
Collapsed tracheas or damaged vertebrae are only two of many things that can go wrong when you attach a leash to the dog's neck.
@MMYY Sorry I dont understand your last comment? If a you trip and let go of any collar wouldn't your dog run off into street and get hit the hypothetical car?
@MMYY Mostly, yes, that is right, if you take away the "ecollar" from the sentence and just leave the conversation at prong collars. (A dog CAN ignore an ecollar if it encounters a trigger that is more stimulating than the shock.)
A prong collar set high on the neck can give you a bio-mechanical advantage over a dog that might otherwise be stronger than you. Said mechanical advantage will also *reduce* the risk of the dog hurting himself like it would on a flat collar. Note: REDUCING the risk is not the same as circumventing it entirely. A harness would have even less risk of injury.
If instead of talking about "tripping" we talk about getting yanked by a lunging dog, what you said would make even more sense.
A prong collar or head halter would give you the most physical control over a lunging dog, but the prong again has a lower risk of injury than the head halter.
That said, MOST dogs are not physically strong enough to yank owners off their feet, even on a harness. They can pull hard enough to make it physically uncomfortable for the human, but not to actually get loose. Especially if the human invests a minimal amount of effort into learning to shift their own center of gravity to counter the dog's strength. (This also raises the question: "Should people be getting dogs they are obviously not equipped to handle?" We can all agree that a person with limited time, shouldn't be getting a Malinois. So wouldn't it be equally sensible to say a person with limited physical mobility, shouldn't be getting a super strong dog of a breed that's likely to pull them over?)
So the argument of safety by means of avoiding the "dog runs into traffic" situation, only applies in a very small percentage of cases, and MOST dog-owner pairings are better off with a well fitted harness.
For example, I know from experience that I, a 125lb woman who never goes to the gym, can hold a lunging 100lb Rottweiler on a back-clip harness. If I put the dog on a front clip harness instead (which for bio-mechanical reasons, is less ideal for the dog's health if the dog is a constant puller, but works well enough for an occasional lunge), holding the dog becomes even easier. I wouldn't need a prong for that type of dog.
Sure, I can't say if I'd need a prong to hold a 200lb dog in an emergency, since I've never tried walking a dog in that weight class. I can definitely see why an elderly person with a Mastiff might opt for a prong. I *don't* see why a fit, young person with a Beagle would need a prong collar though. That's just laziness. Tying something to a dog's neck should only be a last resort, because as I said, there are health risks.
Hi, so I don’t use these but I used to use( about 4 years ago, I’ve thrown it out now) a fabric collar that has a separate bit that tightens when the dog pulls (I’ve forgotten the name of it) and was wondering is it is still bad? It is quite wide as well, so i don’t think it’s bad but I’m not sure? Could anyone tell me if they are bad or not please? I’m curious now that I’ve watched this.
Jessica S when used right they are not bad
also wh do people use shock collars as aposed to ones that spray
She is awesome! I love this.
Amber Owen No she isn’t she is absolutely horrible
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1) choke collar is not supposed to used to actually choke the dog. It is actually also known as a "correction" collar. It is a quick snap. There's actually a right way of wearing a choke collar... My explosives K9 uses one.
2) Prong collar, same idea as the choke chain, not designed to choke your dog with it. A quick snap and that is the correction. Less abrasive than the choke chain. My narcotics dog uses one.
3) I hate e-collars but they have their use. E-Collars (most) have 3 settings beep, vibrate and shock. E-collar is a different form of "marker training". Great tool to mark good behavior (sound) and to cut a quick fixation (vibrate) enough for a redirect. Shock is only used in very rare circumstances. Many professionals don't know how to use them either...
Harnesses are meant for pulling, I use them for bite work and tracking...
Head harnesses put stress on the dogs neck. I'm surprised someone of her caliber doesn't know this basic knowledge. Head harnesses operate much in the same way as harnesses for horses. The problem is, dogs are not horses. So, she either sold-out to product makers, or she's not as knowledgeable as she and others claim she is (I believe it's the former).
THANK YOU! Finally someone here that knows that this isn’t true. Whatever she is saying is only true if you are using the tools incorrectly.
I can see why she doesn’t agree with the training collars it does cause the dogs some pain but I don’t think there all completely bad it’s just how you use them. When I was a teen i used a choke chain on my Great Pyrenees. He was over 100lbs and walking him often left me tried, bruised and frustrated till a breeder recommended the chain. After one or two correction he was walking like a dream. We were both a lot happier cause he got to go out a lot more and to more places cause I wasn’t afraid to walk him.
i plan on getting a chihuahua. harness are better right, because of their small little sensitive necks?
Pinch collars aren’t painful when used correctly
how do you know, have you used one yourself and pulled on a leash? do you have the anatomy of a dog? then how would you know?
Sonic Vitriol first of all yes I actually did put the collar on my own neck and had my boyfriend pull on it and I did the same to him. If you understood how the collar works it is not intended to choke the dog or hurt him but simply to give him a pinch as a cue for training. A lot of collars like a flat one actually choke the dog! And if anything dogs have stronger necks then humans as they get picked up by the neck as newborns by their mom.
@@MacetazzOpina I actually just started my dog on a prong collar and it is great! It is not intended for a long strong pull so cutting off circulation or the issues Victoria mentions comes from someone using the collar wrong and abusing it. My dog was very open to it and understood the corrections, she acted as if it was any other collar. I think it is important people make sure they are taught the correct way and none of these issues would happen.
Hannah Sophia I did the same thing and tried the prong collar on myself. It wasn’t painful
At the end of the day we don't really know what a dog is feeling even when being "used properly". It also depends on the dog themselves but most dogs don't take to using prong collars, or choke collars. Watch this video, you can watch the whole one or just skip to the 2 minute mark th-cam.com/video/5GMLZeASAm8/w-d-xo.html. I also know of a person who bought a prong collar tried it for a while and it did nothing, which was the case for everyone I know who tried the prong collar. But they took the time and patience to train thier dog on the leash with normal collars and got the best results. One person I know went back to using the prong collar just because the felt safe in case out of nowhere their dog would try to chase a squirrel or something, which they never do but better to be safe than sorry.
They're not called pinch collars because they pinch the dog, they're called pinch collars because you have to pinch the prongs to take then off🤦♀️its not the tool that's abusive it's the way people use it
I know right. They are only abusive and painful if they are used incorrectly. As a dog trainer Victoria should know how to use them correctly and not spread misinformation.
@@lucaaemmaa4429 yep!! also she shouldnt use cheap pet store prong collars.
I gotta agree
Bruh how long was this? Oh right 7 years ago learn to read please, plus so many people use it incorrectly would you like it if you put on a pinch collar incorrectly and everytime you kept pulling you would damage your neck?
@Ewan Hussami anything can be harmful in the wrong hands. Harnesses, flat collars, prong collars, and e-collars. That's a bullshit argument
Do you train protection dogs like core corps and belgian Malinis I ask as lmao looking into those two breeds to have
She doesn't train protection dogs. I would suggest finding a local French ring, mondeo ring ect. Club and ask them about it. They will help you find someone who will train one for you or teach you how to train your own.
I have a 120lb German Shepherd, every time he saw a dog he would lunge and bark and act like he wants to kill the other dog, and once he did pull me to the ground and run and jump on this other dog and he started to bite it. We got him an e-collar and in 3 days he learned to not act like this to other dogs, it does not hurt him it is not a shock it is a vibration that is uncomfortable. We have also tried a lot of other training and that did not work he was uncontrollable and to the point that every time I saw another dog I had to pull him out to the side and lift him up by his harness just so he wouldn't pull me to kill this other dog.
As for my experience I never used any of those tools, the prong, choke and e-collars ..I used verbal only...when they hear me talk to them..whatever I asked them to do, they lovingly obey...it's the kind of loving relationship that you have with your dogs that matters most more than any other tools.... besides here in the Philippines, most dog owners don't use those tools...it's pretty expensive here... love your dogs like your very own kids and they'll love you more than you love them..
Jo Hannah Candel if you're going by that logic, then would you not tell your own kids off? Or would it only be 'all love and happiness' ? If you don't set clear structures and prevent bad behaviours in children, it just leads to badly behaving children am I wrong? All prong collars do is teach leash pressure when fitted correctly and given a proper correction. Once a dog learns these behaviours are bad, you can simply take off the corrective device. However with an e collar it stays for life as I would rather be able to know my dog is 100% reliable under all distractions than have the dog place a treat as a lower reward than chasing a squirrel and or coming back to you.
@@pullin3874 so ur saying people should electrocute their children and put prongs around their neck?
@@daniella3784🤦
Sara Bartanic ikr
Btw news flash dogs are not kids
I've noticed a lot of negative feed back especially from personal protection dog trainers, I'm guessing because the prong collar is commonly used. I wonder, how dog teams from Finland, where this are not used ( I think are actually illegal) manage so well in competitions if this collar is necessary?
they are not illegal just not sold as much in stores anymore but trainers still use them
They use bandanas.....
Firstly, dog teams don’t train their dogs to walk well on leashes rather they train them to pull as hard as they can. Secondly all dog teams don’t use chokers at all and train their dogs on harnesses so they can learn to pull the sleds. You clearly know nothing about the world of sled dog racing.
@@TH-camAIbot who are you replying to?
what do you guys think of ecollers (not shock)? i've seen many videos of people putting them on themselves
if used correctly then it can be a great tool for recall especially with high prey drive dogs. freedom to roam and be a dog with the odd stimulus v a frustrated dog kept on leash. what is kinder. but would seek a professional with good reputation. like any tool you use, you want it to be a positive experience for the dog. it is not a quick lazy solution as pp trainers bang on about as you have to put in the work to build a positive experience and an understanding of what you want. you use it in conjunction with a whistle or voice command and phase it out as the dog comes to the verbal cue/whistle but have it as back up for emergencies. if done right you can give your dog the freedom to roam and have a happy life.
some of the studies that pp trainers refer to on e collars being harmful were not done in this fashion so would cause distress to the dog as they wern`t positively conditioned to them
I have one of those harnesses but my dog still jumps and pulls my fella has spine issues so struggles to walk him looking into a gentle face harness now but I need to have him in a mussels around other dogs so how would I be able to use both I'm stressing x
Prong collars are great, please do not listen to the misinformation she is spreading in this video. Do your own research and you will find the truth. They are not painful at all if used in the correct way. I think it could be very helpful to you in your situation. The prong is positive reinforcement as even pressure is put on their neck but when they move into the position desired the collar slacks. It’s an education tool. Hope this helps
I've tried one of the collors that have the plastic bit on the inside he just chokes him self out and i was with a trainer, that's who suggested the harness I have. Collors or anything around his neck that I attach a lead to he will pull and jump untill he collapses. I've ordered a gentle leader face thing so I'll walk him with that at night and with his mussule in morning when I comes wish me luck x
@@sophiehanson8100 I wouldnt recommend using fornt clip harnesses or the gentle leader, i would watch upstate canine academy and robert cabral they both have good videos about how to use prongs which i think may help you.
I love my prong and my dog loves it as well!
They don't hurt, they don't cause pain, they're kinda uncomfortable but that's about it. The collar itself wont train the dog but the owner can use the collar in order to help train the dog. Similarly, the collar doesn't abuse the dog, the owner can use the collar to abuse the dog, just as they could use a flat collar, harness or head halter to abuse a dog.
Choke collars aren't designed to choke a dog. They are designed to put quick pressure on the neck when the owner gives a correction. Dogs will still pull on these collars (because they don't hurt) when they aren't trained properly which could be dangerous but that's because the tool wasn't designed for dogs to pull on it. They're designed for the owner to create active corrections which produce pressure, not pain, in order to decrease pulling. The moment you let your dog pull, you loose leverage, the aim is to correct the dog before they make the leash tight, thus, the only time there is pressure on the dogs neck is when the dog is being told 'no'. Any damages caused by this tool is almost always when the tool has been used incorrectly.
Many dogs also go to the vet with the same injuries or embedded collars from flat collars when they're being used incorrectly too.
Choke/check collars are training collars, not everyday collars and shouldn't be used when the dog isn't currently training. If the dog injures itself while unsupervised while wearing the collar, that's the owners fault not the collar. The same thing could and has happened with flat collars.
The prong collar can be called a pinch collar because you have to pinch the prongs to take the collar on and off the dog.
If you're letting your dog pull on it, that's the owners fault for not actually training the dog how to turn pressure on and off. The dog should rarely have to self correct because the moment the leash is tight, the owner has lost their opportunity to best correct the dog.
This collar does not cause pain. It caused mild/moderate discomfort which the dog has to be taught how to turn on and off.
The prong collar that she is using as an example is crap. Don't use it. Herm Sprenger has the best prong collars because they have a plate in the middle that protects the trachea and has the prongs facing in 2 directions which makes the pressure distributed evenly around the neck. This distribution is so even that it is very difficult to feel the individual prongs. The dog would normally just feel an even pressure all the way around their neck and not only on their trachea like check chains and flat collars. A prong collar is much safer to use than a flat collar.
Ecollars and shock collars are not the same thing and use completely different technology. The shock collar she has probably cost $30 off of ebay and is absolute crap. A good quality ecollar costs upwards of $200 and the most common type of training done with them is low level stim training. This means the stim is used as negative reinforcement. The level used can only just be felt by the dog and rarely felt by humans. It feels like a tapping sensation. These are one of the safest training tools out there since even on the highest levels (good quality) ecollars cant produce heat and thus cant burn the skin. (you can test this by putting the collar against raw meat. I can tell you now, it wont cook it!) They are the same as muscle stimulators for humans but on a much lower level.
And those studies she talked about?
1. Don't say what brand of collar they're using or if its a proper ecollar or a shock collar.
2. Don't specify if the trainer found the dog's working level.
3. Don't specify the trainers techniques with the collar.
4. Don't specify if the trainer incorporated positive reinforcement (which they should)
5. Don't specify if the trainers actually know how to use the collar. Just because they've use it before doesn't mean they're using it correctly.
6. Etc. Etc.
Tools like ecollars, prong collars, etc, are not quick fixes. The aim when training with these tools is to one day not have to rely on them. Teaching a dog how to turn pressure on and off may only take an hour or two, teaching the dog not to pull in everyday situations can take months or years.
Basically what I'm saying is if you don't know anything about a tool or have never used it. Don't talk shit about it because 'it looks scary'. Actually do some research and don't use crappy off brands as your examples of the tools.
Also, fun fact, head halters are more adverse than prong collars. Simply wearing one while not in use can cause stress in a dog. And you shouldn't have to spend months trying to desensitize your dog to a tool because its extremely uncomfortable. (I'm talking from personal and second hand experience.)
And another fun fact, front clip harnesses can also cause injury! I've used one, my dog got ran forward, her legs were pulled out from under her and she landed on her side. We had to go home because she was limping.
Just goes to show that no matter the tool, when used incorrectly, it can harm a dog.
Also, never use these harnessed on dogs under the age of 1 or 2. It puts pressure on the front of their shoulders and can really stuff up their joints!
The harnesses including the one Victoria describes only encourage my working draft dogs, Alaskan Malamutes to pull harder. My big dogs heel nicely and happily after training with a prong collar. Because I allow my malamutes off lead in the bush of NW Ontario I have trained them with an e-collar. When it is time to go outside off lead they come to me with joy to have the collar placed. Why do the come with joy in their hearts? Because they know they will be given freedom that would otherwise not be allowable. Safety where bears, wolves, coyotes and potential prey that they cannot be allowed to pursue abound. Oh yes they are well trained on recall but dogs like malamutes with powerful prey drive are a challenge if they are 50 meters out and you are as little as three seconds late in recognizing that their mind and body have dived deep into this instinctual behavior mode. These devices and any other require training of the handler to be used efficiently and without abusing or harming the animal under the supervision of an experienced professional dog trainer who has trained at one of the well recognized programs in the USA or abroad. Additionally the handler and dog should engage in classroom work where there is plenty of distraction from other dogs, people, including children as well as training work in any environment a handler plans of taking the dog. Victoria’s perspective is exceedingly restricted in the vastness of working dogs. From my perspective all happy dogs are working dogs even family pet dogs whose jobs are walking their handlers and providing emotional support, playmates and instructing in love and care for others. It is MHO that Victoria’s mindset is hobbled by cognitive conformational bias.
Victoria, I have a question for you if you read these posts concering this video about shock collars mainly, since I already knew about the 'choke chains' 'prong collars'. Since you make your opinion clear about 'shock collars' for training a dog or puppy for everyday habits and walking, I can see that it is not the humane thing. What is your opinion however about those collars used in 'invisible fences' to keep a dog from running out of an unfence yard unto the street into traffic??
thank you
the shock collars also come with vibrate. LoL. if i rub my feet on the carpet for 30 seconds, that shock is more powerful than the ones from the collars. Also the PERSON who is using it has ALOT to how the dog reacts to it. Used correctly, your dog will get to enjoy MORE freedom. Check out my dog kona, a pitbull, CGC. Ive used every tool out there, and they all have a purpose. Victoria is a little overboard and is a bit out of her own realm talking about training dogs with real problems.
If you would use a shock collar in europe you would be reported to the police. There are thousands off positive reinforcement trainers working with dogs with "real problems"
Sabrinafromluxembourg and the police would do shit.
***** sure.
***** sure.
this made me laugh
+Marco “FruitnStarch” Stott The i-feel-like-i-have-a-small-penis-when-i-take-advice-from-a-women-fallacy
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well im not being mean or somting but alot of dog trainers use a prong collar and im getting one but now i dont know if its right to do or not many trainers use them but also many trainers dont...so i dont know
Learn to use it correctly. I have one for my dog, and let me tell you. Victoria is spread biased misinformation and lies. Any tool can do damage if used wrong. If you do get one get a herm sprenger
My dog came with a choke collar and would choke herself pulling on a normal collar. Red eyes and gasping. I switched to a harness and she did better not pulling. D ring in the front helps with pulling. Best I’ve used on multiple dogs. Gentle leader also did great but she was a chow mix and it was hard to keep on her short snout.
both of my pit mixes have damage from a choke chain. one has no hair on her neck, and one cannot bark.(he squeaks)
omg thank you for sharing. I have a video on prong collars, and would love for you to share
my dog loves his prong when he sees me get it he gets so excited ears up and all #prongcollarsareawsome
tiggerbell123 of course because he knows that means he is going on a walk to have fun
Prong collars don’t cause pain and are not meant to cause pain. It can be worse if a dog pulls hard on a flat collar
same here!
where can i get the harness she said was good?
amazon :)
invisible fences? ive heard of them but i dont know what they do? is it like the shock collar?
if the dog "passes" that invisible fence they get shocked. It appears to have an immediate effect but you're not showing the dog what to do INSTEAD. It can result in learned helplessness, or have them take out their energy/frustrations in other ways (biting your furniture, whining)
Prongs aren’t painful to the dog! Many people have tried them on their own necks and yanked them harder than they would on their dogs. Ecollars just vibrate and don’t shock, and I’ve tried them on myself and it wasn’t painful at all. Training tools don’t hurt when used incorrectly! Prongs and martingale collars are actually safer than the standard collar you can find anywhere, and flat collars actually lead to the collasping of tracheas more than prongs and other collars like that.
Sorry but I feel the thing about the ecollar isn't true in all cases. Maybe the one you bought didn't hurt, but literally type into Google e-collar burns, and you'll see exactly what she was talking about. I don't believe that its not a tool you can use for training, but I do understand her not wanting the general public to use e collars. They see the dog still did the action so they turn it up a level not knowing that yes, the dog is getting hurt, he just doesn't why so he does it again. Its not the dog doesn't feel it.
@@peach4246 E-collars don’t burn your dog. They are an essential communication tool for trainers. I’ve used one on my dog, both buzz and shock settings, and neither have hurt him. ONLY if an e-collar is used improperly the dog might get on e-collar burn. I’ve trained dogs and done my research, and I know that all training tools have to be used correctly or the dog will get hurt.
@@ohmy7163 Haha, thats almost exactly what I said in different wording. But I did give more emphasis on the fact that they can leave burns if used improperly, which most people who aren't trainers are likely to do. "Google e collar burns and you'll see what she's talking about"
Edit: actually looked up the correct term for it and its pressure necrosis
@@ohmy7163 i also edited my first comment to sound a little nicer because re reading it could've come off as rude or egoistic
harnesses can cause alot of pain and damage as well. it can chaff and rub the dogs skin raw and if your dog has thin fur it can cut into the skin. it can also constrict the chest and arms if the dog pulls too much and positive training is not always enough. it doesn't stop dog fights or dog aggression especially on dogs who were previously rescued from abusive situations
If that happens then the harness isn't fitted properly
She has used the head harness in a few of her 'it's me or the dog' programs, so i would say they are fine when being use properly, they shouldn't be pulled to hard from your end, due to neck troubles.
Hi Is this a pocket American bully +
no pull harness restrict shoulder movement and can cause damage. I alsi used a head collar for nearly a year, and he HATED it. He would constantly try to get it off, hell i would have to back him into a corner to get it on, even with treats. We switched to a prong and it hasn't even been a week of using it and he's a whole new dog. He comes running when he hears it, supper excited to go outside, he's calmer, he doesn't pull anymore. Point is we're both happy we made the switch. And if anyone is looking at tools to use no matter how much your told its abusive do your own research, and have a trainer help you use it properly. Because ANY tool can cause damage if its not used right (side note, if you use a prong get a herm sprenger. Safest one out there?
Look at the end of the day this woman can say how "people who use ecollars disgust her" but these tool are effective and humane and save millions of dogs every day from trainers like her who would easily put a dogs down. Victoria put down a cocker spaniel because it attacked a child and was "too dangerous" to be rehomed when in actual fact this dog could have been e collar trained and rehomed with a family who didn't have children. This woman is ridiculous any case she finds hard is "too dangerous" and is advised to be put down, Cesar millan would have had that dog fixed in a couple months easily. What a shame.
I know someone who used Cesar, was on the show and after it was all over had to give cesar their dog because she got way worse. She bit Cesar pretty bad, which wasn't shown on TV. I work with a behaviorist who has helped reverse the "training" done by Cesar with many dogs, because of the trauma he causes to dogs. No one should send the message to a dog: If you don't do what i say or you do something I don't like, I will hurt you. This mentality is disgusting and this man has taken training back 40 years.
How wide should a collar for a samoyed puppy be? and how wide should it be for an adult samoyed?
Hey wat kind if collar is good for my rottweilar
+Anushka Wijewardana I would try a harness. My lab loves to pull really hard on our way out of the house so a regular harness is really helpful in controlling her. If your dog is really pulling walk away form whatever it is they want to get too. If they just want to walk stop call them back to you. If they're way too distracted take a step back in your training and go to a low distraction enviroment. Once we're out my dog stops pulling. I'm working on our exits. She get too excited.
I'm proud to say i've taught my dog how to walk without pulling on the leash without the use of a shock, pinch, or choke collar :D
That's great, unfortunately though a lot of dogs don't respond to that way of training, that's why all of these tools exist.
that's great! good job! just make sure not yo try and people who use tools down. or publicly shame them to your thousands of furmoms like this chick did, and everything will be fine❤
Cool good for you
And I’m proud to say I’ve taught my dog how to walk properly with tools CORRECTLY. I don’t choke my dog.
I love my prong collars and my e collar they work wonders!
i even heard that those are way safer than harnesses and flat collars
im getting a prong collar soon bc my 4 month old puppy is a very aggressive puller! he chokes himself out anywhere he goes (since i still have a leash on him inside the house bc we're training him that he cant do anything he wants)
Catra Meowmeow they are the protect the trachea and harness make dog pull
Yesss thank you!!
Baylee’s Channel your welcome😂
Is there any videos on how to use retractable dog leashes;like Martha Stewart's DA-15020A retractable leash? Does it has any cons of using it? and what happened to this lady's great Animal planet's program? I learned alot from it long before i even had a dog?! Great show-miss it.
+Jesse Reyna She is a fraud and knows little to nothing about actually training a dog in the way that dogs think and learn. What happened to her show? She lost it because it was crap. Do not use a retractable leash. They are dangerous and have no practical or useful purpose when properly handling or interacting with a dog.
We have recently adopted a stray Ibizan Hound mix and we’ve been trying to train her on a leash. But my step dad is extremely stubborn and will only walk her on a choker. It breaks my heart and no matter how much I tell him it’s abuse and it’s damaging he just argues with me. Every time I see him take her for a walk I do it instead just to protect her. What should I do?
maybe try get him to wear the collar? and pull on it? ask if it feels nice?
@@juliat6444 that is the best response 💀 I’ll ask him 😭
also tell him "well you're the one who's gonna pay the vet for the treatment of a collapsed windpipe"
@@juliat6444 literalllyyy told him that earlier and he said oh shut up and walked tf off. I’m gonna show him all these videos tomorrow and hide that fucking collar or Chuck it over the fence. 💀
I'm not making any assumptions. It is a fact that a prong, choke, or e collar was made to give a dog a negative reinforcement physical correction. It's a fact. I've been a certified trainer for 10 years and do not believe in using any equipment that can cause harm. In my opinion, these types of equipment are for lazy people who want to take shortcuts with their training when there is a much better way and the dog will want to learn and comply because they are rewarded for doing so. Many people would disagree with me, but I don't care.
If you are a certified trainer, then I hope to God that you would know the difference between negative reinforcement and positive punishment...
Ali, Totally agree with you. Electric collars are outlawed in many parts of Europe, and none of the Police dogs in UK [Malinois] were trained with shock or prong collars, they are for lazy trainers.
An electric shock hurts, which is the whole point of it.
There is a man on YT whose girlfriend shocked him with an E collar, his entire chest area contracted visibly, as she went through the numbers, and he said ''that hurt''.
Placing an e collar on the back of the hand as many do is absolutely not the same as placing it around your neck.
It shows the contracting these collars do to muscles.
th-cam.com/video/DDWk_EW7mrg/w-d-xo.html
Those walking harnesses don't work on my dog. Do you have a video that offers actual solutions?
Teach your dog that when they walk by your side great things are gonna happen. Start off walking your dog inside or in front of your house. Go in all different directions that way your dog doesn't know where the walks heading. Every time the dog is by your side give him a treat.
Oh please!, lol!
Get a Herm Sprenger prong collar.
+gsdsteve fite me m8
+gsdsteve no but for real in some parts of the world you're not allowed to use prong, choke, or shock collars because it's completely unnecessary to any dog. Even working dogs, just go head and take 10 seconds to do some research.
What brand or type of harness was the blue harness she picked up?
Whatever it was it's useless!
+gsdsteve explain why.I was going to buy one for my 113lb male doberman because he pulls,he doesn't pull alot but with his 113lbs of musle he has pulled me over before.
breanna keel All of a dog's strength is in their chest. That is why sled pulling dogs and weight pulling dogs wear harnesses, because it makes it easier for them to pull.
I recommend you get your dog a halti. Go into your local pet store with your dog and make sure it gets properly fitted for the Halti.
Supervise your dog wearing it without walking them on it first until they stop trying to take it off because they will try. It's a foreign object on their face it's only natural.
Once they are used to wearing it start walking them on it.
Dogs have no strength in their heads, much like a horse. So the design is to pull the head down and back towards you and therefore he won't be able to pull.
If you try the Halti let me know how you get on.
Get a Herm Sprenger prong collar!
What do you think of gentle leaders? (Head collar)
She loves them even though they are more aversive than prong collars ever will be
you are absolutely not supposed to use the chocker the way she described... My dog got her chocker only once I had tought her the cue, I trained her with a regular colar to slow down when she felt even the slightest tug on her neck. Once she got bigger, however, and got mass, she didnt feel her regular colar anymore. When she first got the chocker, it would barely tighten, and she would slow down. Now, she slows down as soon as she hears the sound of the chains, it became her new cue...what she is describing is a person who doesn't use the chocker in a sensible way, And I have spent hours training my dog, even if I use the chocker, it is used in a sensible matter, as it should be... the colar was to me a tool, not a method...And I never and will never let her pull to the point of her CHOCKING!!!People who would do that simply have no judgement!!!
+Laura Bachir It is called a choker for a reason. The description she used is exactly how a choke collar / choker / choke chain was meant to be used. They were made to choke the dog to stop it from moving forward. The dog stops moving forward because it is uncomfortable to be choked. And we both agree that that is the wrong way to train a dog.
What you explained is a form of psychological conditioning that could have been done with any sound, without having to use that collar. You would have had to start training the sound earlier, before she grew up, but it would have made the choker 100% unnecessary.
+Rosie2250 Different tools have much different rules. It is logic: based on their uses.
Have you taken your dog to the vet for that? Increased size should not cause nerves to stop working, so if your dog can no longer feel a regular collar, there might be a problem. Don't worry though, it could also be that your regular collar was just too small, and so was applying constant pressure. And if pressure is constant, the dog would obviously stop reacting to it.
Don't worry, I agree that using a choke collar the way you do is no worse than using a regular collar, but your reasoning is wrong.
I am so upset. I took my Riley to a trainer and she used a choke collar. I will not use this on my dog. She never shown me how to talk to him. I feel so sick
There are so many misinformed trainers out there who don't look at the science
@@LisaGallegos Ikr. My dog tends to get aggressive around other dogs and we were working on that calming him around dogs. other day and someone camed at us introduced himself as an trainer and petted my dog when barked. He barked at dogs and walk to him for getting pets and returned and barked again. I am still trying to fix that. He still thinks he is doing the right thing by barking every dog he sees...
We use shock collars on all our dogs BUT we dont use shock we use buzz and beep to alert them to come back or to kennel up or to stop barking and when they listen they get ham or mashed potatoes or eggs EDIT I forgot to add that I also use the beep on my service dog at the moment to let her know "close" when she is to far from heel while training
It’s 4am I’ve watch so many puppy vids, I’m getting a puppy in less then a week!
Are you gonna adopt one ?
I've seen her wanting dogs to be put down because she can't rehabilitate them with her nonsense training, dogs that Cesar Millan would rehabilitate with ease. She's a joke, go ahead and walk around with chicken and beef in your pockets to try and help a red zone dog LMFAO 😂. She's a joke, when I saw her recommending euthanizing a dog because her ridiculous methods wouldn't work I was infuriated. Some dogs might learn with her methods, most won't, especially real hard cases. Like I said go ahead and walk around with meat in your pockets and squeeking to distract your dog like an idiot around your neighborhood, SMH. She is looked at as a joke by all serious dog trainers/rehabilitators.
There is no such thing as an untrainable dog. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong and any trainers who say that are clearly not doing their job right
@@TH-camAIbot I agree, she's recommended euthanizing many dogs because she stated they could not be trained or rehabilitated.
Poteluz and that’s why she’s a terrible trainer. If a dog trainer ever says that to you run away as fast as you can
Prongs are great! If you take them appart you have some nice hooks to hang up your dogs leashes and harnesses ;)
+Don't_empty_open_inside It's sad to have to scroll so much to find one of the first funny and truthfull comments. :D
yeah just hang your harnesses that give your dog shoulder dysplasia dip shit don’t actually train your dog don’t just use over powering Devices prong collars are for corrections harnesses are for idiots like you that don’t wanna train the dog actually learn how to train dogs and realize that it’s not a cat or a lizard and actually train the dog properly and if you want to know what proper use of corrective tools look like look up pack master dog training and Peter cane dog training
the type of training that you are talking about has severally damaged my dog in a big way. I had some issues with pulling and took him to see a trainer... he had me walk him with a prong collar and even when my dog yelped out of pain the trainer assured me that he was fine and that I was the problem because I was letting him manipulate me.. I had to take my dog to the vet after that and found that the prong collar had caused major damage to his throat. explain how training out of fear and
Poor dog :(
but your methods just work sooooo welll like🤦♀
Prong collars aren't meant to 'did into your dogs neck' it's meant to put pressure all around the neck that communicates with your dog. They are so much safer than flat collars and front clip harnesses when used PROPERLY.
A decent e collar will usually have around 100 levels. These things save dogs' lives. And they are definitely not 'quick fixes'. That isn't how it works.
A front clip harness restricts a dog's movement in their shoulders and can cause joint problems. Front clip harnesses and flat collars can be so much more dangerous than prong and e collars.
CORRECT
Owners, please listen to your dog rather than the misguided crusade of trainers like this. Don't let it shame you from finding what works for your animal. The best thing you can do is learn canine body language well, and assess your dog's response to whatever tool you choose to try. I tried every option in the book, paired with extensive reward based training, and the only tool that made the slightest impact on leash reactivity was the prong collar. My dog is relaxed and focused when working and has the freedom to explore without the fear of a full blown melt down at the site of another dog, a feat not achieved on a flat collar, front clip harness, or gentle leader. Halters have actually been incredibly psychologically and physically harmful for him, so please please please learn to read your dog and stay open minded to tools that clearly work without causing undue stress to you, your pet, and the relationship between you.
And PLEASE take any scientific studies with a grain of salt and read them critically. Studies regarding training are very prone to bias due to the large amount of uncontrolled variables and typically small sample size. Their findings have value, but are not absolutes and are frequently misinterpreted.
I would have liked Victoria to mention that no dog would be trained to walk nicely unless s/he's been reinforced by rewarding the dog for doing so. Once again, even though the harness might prevent excessive pulling, the dog could be negatively reinforced. I think a combination of teaching the dog that not pulling gets a tangible reward and prevention of pulling by a harness is a solid technique. Good onya Victoria! Will share on FB!
Different colors will actually pretty safe if is you'd properly
I Think that's stretching it a bit.................
Don Kiddick it’s not she’s a professional
@@justarandomname1277 : No doubt... !
Comedy Cats art and animation :3 no she’s an actress
Don Kiddick nice icon, PRIEST
@@StaticResurreXion : For real... ... ...
Why doesn’t she mention the Martingale corrective collar that she uses in her non-pulling heeling videos 🤔
a shock collar isn't meant to shock your dog unless they're a highly aggressive red zone dog but other than that for a simple correction its only like a phone vibration and if your dog is off lead and sees something far away and decides to chase it and doesn't hear you call them you give the small vibration and they come back its just a wireless way to communicate with your dog and is just a safety feature so your dog doesn't chase something or goes near a road thats too far from you and long leashes are only temporary as dogs should be able to go off leash but the collar allows you to still have control if needed
I love Victoria
Finally a dog trainer with some sense of decency. Thanks
AnimalEmancipation don’t really consider her a trainer just a tv actress 😂
You can use a prong e collar choke chain if used properly 90% of the people don't use them properly so they get a bad rep if they're used right they work amazing
more like delusion
@@lizsun261 wym?
she has her own tv show and its the best! its called its me or the dog
Also, many practices in the US are illegal in European countries like cropping, docking, prong collars etc, yet we're managing just fine. Those still supportign these, get over your old fashioned ways! This is not a personal attack on you, but for the well-being of your canine.
If you're saying it's okay to use those methods, fuck off.
Thank you. Please share with more people
I have a choke chain but hardly use it
What about using only the vibration on the e-color?
Its not necessary
why send any electricity through your dog?? would u do it to a child, probably not. it is legalized abuse.
Lol! Obviously you have no experience with an e collar!
For some dogs it is necessary. It literally is like a phone vibration
DOGS ARE NOT CHILDREN, they will be completely fine if you use an e-collar on them. Ecollars's are the same technology as a TENS unit they will not hurt your dog unless used on an extremely high level (60+)
I actually wish people would try those colars on themselves D=<
glasglow dog trainer has a video where he tries it
Ok ur now just being pretentious
oh this lady😳
We Have a e collar but it doesn’t shock her it beeps instead of shock
One thing you can do with a choke collar is to attach to the end of the leash with a carabiner for a mouthy dog.
that is different than using it on the neck :)