Mind blown, his technical ability and precision is taking over TH-cam. In sure the little kids don't dig it, but coming with hard core facts and accuracy is what the people want.
This test remains the gold standard. Would love to see a test between the various different R8 coils on the market. Specifically the Denso, NGK and Bosch. non of which appears to have been the coil used in this test.
This is how you get credibility - thorough in house testing AND showing results of said testing. I bought a platinum racing coil kit for my RB26 last year and I've recommended it to others. Particularly like the custom O ringed stalks, so it fits nicely under the stock cover and prevents gunk getting down there.
Changing the coils shouldn't net any power gains on their own, unless you were suffering from misfires beforehand. It will however let you make more power, or run a larger plug gap. They will also probably be more reliable as you dont have to push them as hard to get them to spark and you know exactly how close you are to their limit if PRP provides you with a dwell details.
@@tx5brent As all internal combustion engines do, even if you don't hear the engine misfire. If you can increase the burn efficiency on the power stroke, do you think it would result in better power?
@@tx5brent You can get increased power from a better spark, even if you werent misfiring before. Better burn can increase power. May not always do it, but can.
So glad you looked at this with cost in mind. Yes r35 coils are the best but are very expensive. 90% of builds do need them at most people are only sub 500hp..
Can confirm the same findings, new R8 genuine coils are 25eur each, you can buy from anywhere, can't beat the performance to price :) Another nice thing they have over-dwell protection build-in that will NOT initiate a spark at the wrong time and destroy your engine like the LS "smart" coils
Anything between 2-5ms will work reliably fine to 10k rpm 4cyl 4 stroke engine. Generally is a straight swap without the need to change the factory dwell table. Here is the table i made and use for aftermarket ecus: imgur.com/aqxHYiQ
You mean LS "crazy" coils.. Seen two engines go boom because the coils started to fail.. One car blew its entire muffler system off due to a severe misfire and broke the oil pump shaft due to kickback. :(
ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS video to watch!!! Thanks for all the work you guys provide! On a side note, guys, would you do a CRANKSHAFT comparison video of RB25/26/30 vs 1/2JZ???? It would be very interesting to see the material and all the journal dimensions!?
an overall fantastic job taking the time to go through all these coils in such a well-organised test setup, only thing which would have been nice to follow up on was at the beginning of the video there were talks about specifics such as what coil could output certain dwell ms and performance at different plug gaps etc, but all came "rushed up" in the end. id be really interested to see just what the "internet" lists as respectable dwell times for these coils compared to the real-world testbench setup, a great example would be those d595 lq9 coils apparently going trigger happy with some dwell lol
some valid points, we were surprised to discover that lq9 auto fired, but advertised dwell was in some cases no where near the actual, none the less very little data available until now :)
I would like you to compare the R8 coilpack to some other VAG - group coilpack, for example from 1.4-1.6 liter turbo engines, one that fits inside the standard coilpack cover in rb engine. Those coils are a popular upgrade in europe due to the availability and cheap price and it would be interesting to see if the R8 coil is actually better or if those produce the same numbers.
yep, lots of similar VWAG coils, my A4 1.8T (B6 generation) runs an identical? coil, I've heard people using them for other projects, they seem decent, but to have proof/numbers on that would be nice!
@@metalinvalidmatt yeah, and it would be nice to see if those are all the same underneath so that the R8 coil is not what is needed and a shorter one would perform the same.
@@josbanse Was just about to post almost exactly the same question regarding the shorter variation of vag coils until I scrolled down the comments! I had those 1.2-1.6 liter tsi short coils on my +700hp 1jz vvti. Now I'm trying the newest revisions of R8's, because I had strange misfire issues that was not completely sorted by doing complete engine harness rewire. It could have been ECU issue too, so I upgraded to EMU Black now.
Incredible work guys. Been waiting for someone to do this testing. Didn't expect anything this comprehensive though! Would be amazing if you could release the full data sets somewhere. Would also be awesome to do a second round oincluding packs like Subaru, Honda, Mitsubishi, etc. I know it has to make monetary sense though, so hopefully this video does very well for you. :)
Had problems with the dwell on my Yaris coils on my 1JZ when it was first tuned. The car never ran right and I had to head back to the tuner to get the dwell adjusted. I also had one coil crack where the mounting bolt goes. Though they're performing fine for my needs currently, R35 coils and new brackets would be the go. The only downside as said in this video is cost. Great video anyway, thanks for going to this effort.
Those LS1 and LQ9 coils came out 20+ years ago on 300hp NA engines, why didn't you test coils from the much newer and twice as powerful LS3/9 or LT1/4 style of engines ?
Because LS coils are trash and blow up engines when they get hot. I have had crazy intermittent misfires from them and refuse to tune a car that has them. The sporadic jitter and timing issues they have aren't worth the extra spark energy especially with r35 coils that seem to work fine with regular spark plug wires. I actually am using r35 coils on my LS build engine.
I've done similar tests. What total voltage is the zener diode string on the secondary side? Mine came to a measured 1700V. One coil you left out is ICE Ignition's LS coil. 144 mJ at 10 amps primary current.
Bit of a bummer that the Subaru COP coil packs were not tested but understandable being this is options for the cars you're working on. Maybe expand on it in the future?
Fun fact: Those R35 coils can also be found from 1.6 DIG-T engines. For European guys it's great news, as you can find those coils from Renault too, sourcing those coils shouldn't be too hard..
They look like the same as the coils on a lot of late model nissans, same module just slightly different moulding and stalk. Good news if you can get decent coils from any wreckers for next to nothing.
A Few questions. Why not test a Barra fg and b series coil? (more for my own use lol) Also arent ign-1a mecury marine coils that everyone re-brands? Why is everything purple? is that a filter on your camera? Other than that your test setup looked legit people cant argue with that without showing they're better setups
I'm guessing they're the same as the Yaris Denso coils. But an actual test would be nice. I'm upgrading to coil packs on a b series so I'm very interested also.
Thanks Andrew and Herman! Really great content and as an electrical engineer I have nothing to comment on the tests, very well executed. One question: are you guys open to share the dwell settings of each coil?
Someone who actually knows about electrical systems agrees with us, yet we still get people who claim to know more from watching other youtube videos. Welcome to the internet :)
standard Ford Zetec wasted spark coil puts out at minimum 37kV and it is designed for double platinum plugs with 1.3mm gap. For me at least it seems that it deserves a place in this test because it is dirt cheap and extremely common and quite sure more powerful than many of the selected test subjects so please have a look at it and how it compares to the top of the currently tested ones
haha talk about timing! Literally was looking into coil kits for my RB this morning wondering do I stick with my splitfires or go with R35 etc. Another killer video guys thanks so much
9:30 Also check your R8 coils if are genuine, these could be from the dealership, but generally they will be laser marked. Better to try one from the suppliers, NGK U5014 is this case just to make sure. But from my own tests your energy measured is about right :) (need to find my old excels:p)
Absolutely cracking video god knows why I just found it but I’m glad . So what kind of upgraded trigger wires for the AEM/HALTEC coil as I would like to know if I could use one on the 125/250 cbr bikes ?
Herman Urriola , Great informative video. Very thorough as are all of your tests. But the question that everyone wants to know, Who is the Australian supplier of the R35 Coil Packs???????????
Wow, thanks for this! FYI: That AEM coil is a rebranded mercury Marine coil. If you have a friend in the marine outboard business, he'll likely have a bunch of these coils laying around! Lucky me...
just curious, was that R8 coil genuine? it might be just the shot, but the top looks blank where it should have parts numbers etc, commonly seen on knock offs.
@@HalferLandPerformance the ignition / Motive guys did an amazing job I don't wish to discredit anything they've done by asking them to do the k series coils .Yes I have seen the stock K series coils supply a great spark to 1000bhp+ builds
I know but every Vw fan boy has to fit r8 coils it was quite funny especially when the car needed a 28f5 recall after the customer had bought “uprated” r8 coils
@@hermanurriola138 It would also be interesting to compare some of the old school CDI and also new multi-coil CDI coil setups that are available, if you can get your hands on them that is. Setups like the old HKS Twin Power CDI, but keep it RB specific or testing will just get way out of hand.
Rewatching this after a couple years would be interesting to find out which Australian supplier the r35 “knock off” was from if it was from afi/cool drive chances are it was a genuine coil repackaged
It would be interesting to see some testing on the golf gti golf R ea888evo3 engine of the 7th gen golf. Those are Bosch Motorsport products and are very powerful
However you've missed one more test, which is simple enough to make. This test is valid for the clamping voltage you've used with your diode box (i'm assuming 1000V or so). You need to also test the maximum voltage a coil can produce since spark initiation in the cylinder varies depending on several factor. You can use the jig at 3:07 to do this, or better make it with 2 adjustable spheres to measure the max spark gap (1cm in dry air is about 10kV from memory if i remember well). Coils requiring spark wires will be the first ones to lose this test (usually they max around 20kV)
Depends on the actual coil used, mine's are rated up to 60KV, most dedicated coils from Toyota are at least 30KV if memory serves with 45KV not hard to find in the aftermarket.
I'd really like to see this compared to an msd 6al digital box with the MSD Blaster 2 coil. they advertise 135 to 145mj @12-14.4v. many people have tried to convince me to go to coil packs... I understand the sequential side of it but other than that when you just look at it from a spark output point. The coil packs can't even touch it especially when you factor in the price vs price.
Such an great video, what effect would it have changing the plugs to a type that had more internal resistance ? The reason I ask is my stock plugs are 1000ohms but everyone is running the HKS super fire plugs with 5000ohms. Would we see more spark energy (to the limits of the coil) due to the fact it has to overcome total resistance ( spark plug resistance and air gap?)
Bruce Morris nope. They were genuine We’ve never seen LS1 work very well so wasn’t a surprise. LQ9 was a let down from what ever heard. All bought genuine new as you can see by the boxes on the side of the table
I would love to know more about the 13B platinum kit, I couldn't find much on the website or Platinum Racing and the original FD RX-7 coils are often 25+ years old now. I would like to upgrade to the R35 coil packs when mine finally get weak and give up.
we haven't released it yet.. for only one pathetic reason, we don't have them anodized in all colours yet, and I like doing the photos stuff once only so they all look the same... sad huh.. Message me on the PRP page
@@hermanurriola138 thanks Herman. I'm not in a rush so I can wait. I like black, it's subtle :) and on an FD I don't imagine you'll be able to easily see it anywhere under all the intake manifold stuff. :).
Mind blown, his technical ability and precision is taking over TH-cam. In sure the little kids don't dig it, but coming with hard core facts and accuracy is what the people want.
Idk about taking over TH-cam and people being mad
At the price point nothing beats the r8 coils they use to actually be $25 a pack now they are $30. Most these other packs are $50-$100 a pack.
This test remains the gold standard.
Would love to see a test between the various different R8 coils on the market. Specifically the Denso, NGK and Bosch. non of which appears to have been the coil used in this test.
and the Benchmark ones as they make some big claims with very little real world data
This is how you get credibility - thorough in house testing AND showing results of said testing. I bought a platinum racing coil kit for my RB26 last year and I've recommended it to others. Particularly like the custom O ringed stalks, so it fits nicely under the stock cover and prevents gunk getting down there.
Did you get to do a dyno test before and after?
Changing the coils shouldn't net any power gains on their own, unless you were suffering from misfires beforehand. It will however let you make more power, or run a larger plug gap. They will also probably be more reliable as you dont have to push them as hard to get them to spark and you know exactly how close you are to their limit if PRP provides you with a dwell details.
@@tx5brent As all internal combustion engines do, even if you don't hear the engine misfire. If you can increase the burn efficiency on the power stroke, do you think it would result in better power?
@@tx5brent You can get increased power from a better spark, even if you werent misfiring before. Better burn can increase power. May not always do it, but can.
Caribbean GTR Beyond proper ignition from a sufficient spark, combustion efficiency and power output have nothing to do with spark energy.
I like your approach to this. No more internet fanboy hype and hearsay. These are the facts, mmkay?
Thanks for the video and hard work on the tests.
Good test, We run the R35's on stock coils up to around 2200whp, Above this on Methanol we swap to plug wires with dedicated coils.
beautiful thing aren't they cheers
I did the LS1 coil swap on my 25 about 7 years ago, I've had zero issues but there's obviously better options now, as happens with everything
Man the videos you guys are pushing out, fkn quality and relevance....
It would be great to see where the Honda k series coils sit in this range, it would be another "cheap" option for more moderate power builds
So glad you looked at this with cost in mind.
Yes r35 coils are the best but are very expensive. 90% of builds do need them at most people are only sub 500hp..
OMG YES! This is what I've been waiting for! No wonder it took so long to produce, this is a massive amount of data. Thank you so much!
Great info guys! Glad I went with the Hitachi R35 coils on my RB26 build!
Can confirm the same findings, new R8 genuine coils are 25eur each, you can buy from anywhere, can't beat the performance to price :) Another nice thing they have over-dwell protection build-in that will NOT initiate a spark at the wrong time and destroy your engine like the LS "smart" coils
What dwell time is recommended for the R8 coils anyway?
Anything between 2-5ms will work reliably fine to 10k rpm 4cyl 4 stroke engine. Generally is a straight swap without the need to change the factory dwell table. Here is the table i made and use for aftermarket ecus: imgur.com/aqxHYiQ
You mean LS "crazy" coils.. Seen two engines go boom because the coils started to fail.. One car blew its entire muffler system off due to a severe misfire and broke the oil pump shaft due to kickback. :(
@@robssm2 yes those;p
little confused you mention 11th place the D595 whats the difference between that and the D585?
omg you guys are putting out pure gold recently. invaluable info you won't get anywhere else. thanks a lot!
Thank you guys for all the testing, working and releasing the info for free. I know where Im getting my kit when it comes time.
Hello what is the part# for Yaris Bosch Coil? thank you
You should test a Honda K20 coil. Very popular in Ireland
@wrx2hot4u80% of the sfwd cars use them speedfactory went low 7s with them
ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS video to watch!!! Thanks for all the work you guys provide!
On a side note, guys, would you do a CRANKSHAFT comparison video of RB25/26/30 vs 1/2JZ????
It would be very interesting to see the material and all the journal dimensions!?
Thanks man appreciate that, and yes crank comp vid would be cool, we could do rb 25 vs 1J and RB30 vs 2J maybe
This is great stuff! I'm excited for my new prp r35 coil kit for my r32 gtr!
Is there any chance you could do this for three different sets of coil packs for Subaru? I can provide the coil packs.
Was there ever an id on the 6th place r35 Australian copy coils? Seem worth running if they are a decent amount cheaper than the other r35 ones.
What about a oil filled coil that you find on a old school car? How well do those test out
FWIW i have a Yaris as my daily (love this car) and it usually runs around 13.8 volts
Very interesting! Love tech stuff like this.
I am using Bosch P65 coil, they are rated up peak 88mJ, Bosch provide data chart for dwell time, and they are not expecive, Around £40 each in UK.
an overall fantastic job taking the time to go through all these coils in such a well-organised test setup, only thing which would have been nice to follow up on was at the beginning of the video there were talks about specifics such as what coil could output certain dwell ms and performance at different plug gaps etc, but all came "rushed up" in the end. id be really interested to see just what the "internet" lists as respectable dwell times for these coils compared to the real-world testbench setup, a great example would be those d595 lq9 coils apparently going trigger happy with some dwell lol
some valid points, we were surprised to discover that lq9 auto fired, but advertised dwell was in some cases no where near the actual, none the less very little data available until now :)
I would like you to compare the R8 coilpack to some other VAG - group coilpack, for example from 1.4-1.6 liter turbo engines, one that fits inside the standard coilpack cover in rb engine. Those coils are a popular upgrade in europe due to the availability and cheap price and it would be interesting to see if the R8 coil is actually better or if those produce the same numbers.
yep, lots of similar VWAG coils, my A4 1.8T (B6 generation) runs an identical? coil, I've heard people using them for other projects, they seem decent, but to have proof/numbers on that would be nice!
@@metalinvalidmatt yeah, and it would be nice to see if those are all the same underneath so that the R8 coil is not what is needed and a shorter one would perform the same.
@@josbanse Was just about to post almost exactly the same question regarding the shorter variation of vag coils until I scrolled down the comments! I had those 1.2-1.6 liter tsi short coils on my +700hp 1jz vvti. Now I'm trying the newest revisions of R8's, because I had strange misfire issues that was not completely sorted by doing complete engine harness rewire. It could have been ECU issue too, so I upgraded to EMU Black now.
It would have been nice if you could have also tested factory SR20 coils so we could see the difference between it and the SR20 splitfire.
Awesome test! Really learning alot from Herman through your channel.
Great video. I'd like to see how Okada Projects or Ignition Projects compares.
Good luck. It's a prp advert.
How? PRP doesn't make any of the coils listed.
Thanks once again for the efforts, awesome information as usual! Keep it up!
as always you guys make amazing videos!! dropping that knowledge
This is excellent! Your hard work is appreciated! Great video!
You should test the white top original 2000-2002 d585 coils. The black epoxy top was known to be garbage.
Agreed. These would have been near top
@@DailyBeater yeah bro
Thanks for the hard work on the testing!!!!!!! Awesome info :)
thank you!
Absolute legends! Love these tests! Ls iron block test next please!
Yes, that's a good one. Would love to know how an actual LSX block compares to an LQ9 or similar
That'll never happen on this channel...
@@clutchkickpj693 Got that right and nobody even cares such comparison at this channel.😆
That is some intense and useful research. It will benefit you and your customers. And us, because you shared it. Thanks
Incredible work guys. Been waiting for someone to do this testing. Didn't expect anything this comprehensive though! Would be amazing if you could release the full data sets somewhere.
Would also be awesome to do a second round oincluding packs like Subaru, Honda, Mitsubishi, etc. I know it has to make monetary sense though, so hopefully this video does very well for you. :)
Had problems with the dwell on my Yaris coils on my 1JZ when it was first tuned. The car never ran right and I had to head back to the tuner to get the dwell adjusted. I also had one coil crack where the mounting bolt goes. Though they're performing fine for my needs currently, R35 coils and new brackets would be the go. The only downside as said in this video is cost. Great video anyway, thanks for going to this effort.
Those LS1 and LQ9 coils came out 20+ years ago on 300hp NA engines, why didn't you test coils from the much newer and twice as powerful LS3/9 or LT1/4 style of engines ?
Makes there coils look better that's why
Because they are still the same. They are a good coil just not the basest boy on the street.
Because LS coils are trash and blow up engines when they get hot. I have had crazy intermittent misfires from them and refuse to tune a car that has them. The sporadic jitter and timing issues they have aren't worth the extra spark energy especially with r35 coils that seem to work fine with regular spark plug wires. I actually am using r35 coils on my LS build engine.
I've done similar tests. What total voltage is the zener diode string on the secondary side? Mine came to a measured 1700V. One coil you left out is ICE Ignition's LS coil. 144 mJ at 10 amps primary current.
Really interesting test. Could you also test stock OEM 2JZ coil and other VAG coils as well?
I second that
I just bought a set of the audi r8 coils. I'm only trying to make 650rwhp, so these should be fine for that. Thanks for the video.
Bit of a bummer that the Subaru COP coil packs were not tested but understandable being this is options for the cars you're working on. Maybe expand on it in the future?
Any idea what those output
Fun fact: Those R35 coils can also be found from 1.6 DIG-T engines. For European guys it's great news, as you can find those coils from Renault too, sourcing those coils shouldn't be too hard..
They look like the same as the coils on a lot of late model nissans, same module just slightly different moulding and stalk. Good news if you can get decent coils from any wreckers for next to nothing.
Havent been able to find hanshin or hitachi anywhere online here in eu.
@@midgrave Autodoc has Hitachi ones.
V3N0M Hitachi Europe does not sell IGC0079. So if you want to buy from Europe your only option is Genuine Nissan.
A Few questions. Why not test a Barra fg and b series coil? (more for my own use lol) Also arent ign-1a mecury marine coils that everyone re-brands? Why is everything purple? is that a filter on your camera? Other than that your test setup looked legit people cant argue with that without showing they're better setups
FG Falcons are 30mJ
Any idea where the k20 coils sit with this lot? Thanks
I would also like to know this just out of curiosity
I'm guessing they're the same as the Yaris Denso coils. But an actual test would be nice. I'm upgrading to coil packs on a b series so I'm very interested also.
Thanks Andrew and Herman! Really great content and as an electrical engineer I have nothing to comment on the tests, very well executed. One question: are you guys open to share the dwell settings of each coil?
Someone who actually knows about electrical systems agrees with us, yet we still get people who claim to know more from watching other youtube videos. Welcome to the internet :)
+1 dwell times would be very beneficial
standard Ford Zetec wasted spark coil puts out at minimum 37kV and it is designed for double platinum plugs with 1.3mm gap. For me at least it seems that it deserves a place in this test because it is dirt cheap and extremely common and quite sure more powerful than many of the selected test subjects so please have a look at it and how it compares to the top of the currently tested ones
opexo first we’ve heard of anyone using them. As we say in video. What is popular and available at the time.
haha talk about timing! Literally was looking into coil kits for my RB this morning wondering do I stick with my splitfires or go with R35 etc. Another killer video guys thanks so much
Try 50ignite.com australian based business. they use Bosch/ Audi R8 Coilpacks. The minus is that you cant use the valley covers.
@@hendrahendra Thanks mate will have a look!
That Herman is a bright spark :)
ohh that is nice, I'm just a normal guy that loves what he does, cheers mate
@@hermanurriola138 I appreciate the effort that you put in to properly test these products as I'm sure the viewers and your customers do :)
I absolutely geek on this kind of thing man. Absolutely geek. Thank you.
I use R8 coils for rb25det. Huge difference comparing with stock RB coils. Thanks for video. Very useful
Whats the r8 part number if you dont mind me asking???
@@drrolle3277 IGC-247 For genuine Bosch through P.A.T or TI performance
9:30 Also check your R8 coils if are genuine, these could be from the dealership, but generally they will be laser marked. Better to try one from the suppliers, NGK U5014 is this case just to make sure. But from my own tests your energy measured is about right :) (need to find my old excels:p)
St0RM33 Would not buy anything else but the NGK U5014 with the proper marking.
Can you guys test BMW ignition coils?
Supert! Thank`s for hard work done by you guys!!!
This video is very informative. Thank you for creating!
Absolutely cracking video god knows why I just found it but I’m glad . So what kind of upgraded trigger wires for the AEM/HALTEC coil as I would like to know if I could use one on the 125/250 cbr bikes ?
Herman Urriola ,
Great informative video.
Very thorough as are all of your tests.
But the question that everyone wants to know,
Who is the Australian supplier of the R35 Coil Packs???????????
Wow, thanks for this!
FYI: That AEM coil is a rebranded mercury Marine coil. If you have a friend in the marine outboard business, he'll likely have a bunch of these coils laying around! Lucky me...
Great information. This will save a lot of frustration if someone is turning up the boost only to get spark breakdown.
Thank you for this. Excellent information!
just curious, was that R8 coil genuine? it might be just the shot, but the top looks blank where it should have parts numbers etc, commonly seen on knock offs.
Quality stuff guys, do you reckon you could do a video on the various 4 pole wasted spark coil packs like the EJ25 and VAG Bosch items?
Any results for 2JZ coilpacks?
Herd r35s best for them
Excellent .want to see how the honda K series one do too
RSA DYNAMICS Or J-Series. We have guys pushing them to 1000whp + on stock packs.
Checkout my channel J32a3 on 8psi making 580whp+ 👍🏻😏
@@HalferLandPerformance the ignition / Motive guys did an amazing job I don't wish to discredit anything they've done by asking them to do the k series coils .Yes I have seen the stock K series coils supply a great spark to 1000bhp+ builds
Great info! Wished you did Honda k series coil
Would be interesting to see the difference between the r8 and a standard Vw coil of the same type
they are exactly the same
I know but every Vw fan boy has to fit r8 coils it was quite funny especially when the car needed a 28f5 recall after the customer had bought “uprated” r8 coils
If you can get your hands on the Ignition Project/Plasma Direct RB replacement CDI coils, it would be interesting to see how they compare.
Hi Ian, yes it looks like there will have to be a round 2, we need some sort of voting system to line up the next batch, will contact you.
@@hermanurriola138 It would also be interesting to compare some of the old school CDI and also new multi-coil CDI coil setups that are available, if you can get your hands on them that is. Setups like the old HKS Twin Power CDI, but keep it RB specific or testing will just get way out of hand.
Well done. Very much appreciate the genuine data.
wish you guys had test it a Honda k20 or s2000 denso coilpack.
Can you post the details info on the coil pack, ag dwell time.
Thanks
dropping relevant facts and figures 👍
thanks for all the hard work on this!
Would be really Helpful for conversion's to have accurate Dimentions of each coil in a document
Thank you for the in depth technical reviews. I appreciate these deep technical videos!
Awesome work👌 mega props for that test rig too
Rewatching this after a couple years would be interesting to find out which Australian supplier the r35 “knock off” was from if it was from afi/cool drive chances are it was a genuine coil repackaged
Where can us plebs find the dwell data from your testing?
Great video! Learning is cool!
It would be interesting to see some testing on the golf gti golf R ea888evo3 engine of the 7th gen golf. Those are Bosch Motorsport products and are very powerful
Where does the M&W CDI come in at?
What was the current draw of the Bosch Toyota vs the Hitachi R35 coils BTW?
you should test the presicion coils ls style for bmw they claim 128mj
However you've missed one more test, which is simple enough to make. This test is valid for the clamping voltage you've used with your diode box (i'm assuming 1000V or so). You need to also test the maximum voltage a coil can produce since spark initiation in the cylinder varies depending on several factor. You can use the jig at 3:07 to do this, or better make it with 2 adjustable spheres to measure the max spark gap (1cm in dry air is about 10kV from memory if i remember well). Coils requiring spark wires will be the first ones to lose this test (usually they max around 20kV)
Depends on the actual coil used, mine's are rated up to 60KV, most dedicated coils from Toyota are at least 30KV if memory serves with 45KV not hard to find in the aftermarket.
I'd really like to see this compared to an msd 6al digital box with the MSD Blaster 2 coil. they advertise 135 to 145mj @12-14.4v. many people have tried to convince me to go to coil packs... I understand the sequential side of it but other than that when you just look at it from a spark output point. The coil packs can't even touch it especially when you factor in the price vs price.
How about ignition project coils?
Where'd you source the Bosch Yaris coils? Need a set to replace my tired Denso Yaris coils
Golebys I think on that one
Such an great video, what effect would it have changing the plugs to a type that had more internal resistance ? The reason I ask is my stock plugs are 1000ohms but everyone is running the HKS super fire plugs with 5000ohms. Would we see more spark energy (to the limits of the coil) due to the fact it has to overcome total resistance ( spark plug resistance and air gap?)
The resistor is there to limit the spark current to suppress interference.
I would say your LSQ/LS2 truck coil was a duff Chinese one, LS1 is rated at 40mj which is what you saw but the truck coil is rated at 120mj
Bruce Morris nope. They were genuine
We’ve never seen LS1 work very well so wasn’t a surprise. LQ9 was a let down from what ever heard.
All bought genuine new as you can see by the boxes on the side of the table
Great Great useful info, thanks a lot :)
Im on my 3 car on the R8 coils, and they are great, never had any issues :)
Whats the part number if you dont mind me asking???
@@drrolle3277 just google: R8 coils
@@LarsFuglsang I did... Alot on ebay... i just want the reliable coilpack and not a nock off...
@@drrolle3277 then order from VW
I would love to know more about the 13B platinum kit, I couldn't find much on the website or Platinum Racing and the original FD RX-7 coils are often 25+ years old now. I would like to upgrade to the R35 coil packs when mine finally get weak and give up.
we haven't released it yet.. for only one pathetic reason, we don't have them anodized in all colours yet, and I like doing the photos stuff once only so they all look the same... sad huh.. Message me on the PRP page
@@hermanurriola138 thanks Herman. I'm not in a rush so I can wait. I like black, it's subtle :) and on an FD I don't imagine you'll be able to easily see it anywhere under all the intake manifold stuff. :).
What coils would you recommend for a Honda accord 2004 2.4 engine four-cylinder
Glad I'm running AEM Smart Coils!!!
Also the AEM Dumb Coils put out 117mj but requires ignitor.
how about subaru ej series coil on plug unit?
Good video
Keep it up guys
It would be awsome if you test some of the VAG coils Now R8 performed good to see if the coil from a cheaper tsi is just as good.
In theory it should be the same coil. At least on the vag cars they are interchangeable
@@253Huhn253 I know. but just because it's would work isn't the same as it would be identical internally.
The last coil tested looks like a Holley smart coil is it the same thing