Tires in a size range from 32-36 and something that is durable but not super slow. I also like tubeless and I prefer a tire that adds some comfort instead of a harsh ride. Ability to maintain traction on wet roads is really important and longevity. If a tire can not last me a couple of seasons then that’s disappointing. I am a 200lb rider who rides a lot of long rides during the summer so the larger sizes are really nice!
With this being the main part in contact with the road, I am very demanding on tyres. Speed, puncture resistance and confidence on the bike. Had P zeros before and they fitted the bill. New bike came with different tyres, and I don't throw away unworn tyres, so will stick with them for a while. They are good anyway.
About time they added 32 and 35 tires to the mix. Everyone is not a racer and some of us are heavier than others. If they are faster than the old ones and they are durable that will be awesome. I’ll buy a set for summer.
I am currently using P Zero Race TLR (w/ Zipp 303 Firecrest). I choose them because they are great all-rounders. Low rolling resistance & decent puncture protection.
What is the max TSS width recommended for each tire width and how does it compare with the previous generation? Haven't managed to find the information on Pirelli's website.
I bought a second pair of these to fit in Spring as I liked riding them. "try to put these tyres on my bike" is the last thing Alex says - good luck with that mate - because the latest pair I bought are so tight to the 21mm rim you need a vice and a jack to fit them. No chance of getting them off if you puncture on the road! AVOID unless you have the Hulk riding with you.
Wondering how the new layer copes with plugs if you need to repair a cut. Sounds like a potential improvement if the inner layer isn't a regular weave. I do hope they bring the new tech to their already excellent gravel tyres.
I love Pirelli tires and I prefer them to Conti's for several reasons ( an important one being that they are infinitely easier to mount on the side of the road). However, your viewers need to know that when Pirelli calls something a Race tire they are serious. In my experience over the last several years I have found that the Race versions of their tires are extremely prone to punctures and you really want to save those for your race days. And since the majority of GCN viewers don't race I strongly recommend getting the Road versions of their tires, which are very good in about every way even if they are slightly heavier and have a slightly higher rolling resistance than the Race versions.
I don't race, but I do ride long distances and some of the advantages of materials for racing (light weight and low rolling resistance, for example) benefit long distance riders. Do you suppose this tire in 30 or even 32 mm would be something I should look at?
Interesting, but that’s pretty bold talk from Pirelli. I’ll wait for an objective review from Bicycle Rolling Resistance before I swallow that claim. BTW, the Conti GP5000S TR 25 is shown by BRR to have a resistance of 10.1 watts at 80 psi, while the previous PZero Race 26 is at 14.3 watts. Even with 24% savings, they still don’t quite get to the Conti (10.7 watts). So they beat themselves and are close to the benchmark, but no compelling reason for me to switch from the Conti’s (unless I win a free set).
Wow 24% faster, that’s a big claim! A great subject for a GCM real world test. It would be interesting to know if 24% less rolling resistance actually means when you get them out on the road.
Go check out Bicycle Rolling Resistance for a real test. I won’t buy a manufacturer’s claim until I see real data. And those GCN “real world” tests are entertainment, not objective science. It might be cool to see Alex visit the BRR lab to see how they do it.
That looks good. And pretty fast. 24% increase in speed sounds like it can shorten riding time in a race with possibly 30 seconds (or more). I know that my bike uses 35mm wide tyres. And the rims are not tubeless ready. Is it possible to use these with an innertube? I have innertubes myself.
Yes you can use inner tubes with tubeless tyres, no problem at all, but you will use a little more power to maintain a given speed versus running no tube. Also, most wheels can be converted to tubeless compatibility. Muc Off do a "ultimate" tubeless conversion kit with all the gear you need to do it. Happy riding👍
Recently I bought P Zero TLR 28mm Speedcore and I'm really disappointed. 28mm model measures ~26.5mm !! on 19mm inner width rim !! (the same was with P Zero Race 28 TLR TechWall) - no it's not true to size !!! whereas other tires, Conti GP5000 or even Pirelli P Zero Road on the same rim have ~28.5-29mm !!! Should I buy 30mm model to have correct 28-29mm tire ?? sort your shit out !!
Tubeless are a hit or miss, I have had rubbish tubeless tyres and had a set of outstanding tubeless ones. I am keen to try the Pirelli ones and see if they are up to challenge.
Great informative video. Looks like a good alternative choice for a summer tire and finally replace my winter draggy but trustworthy Cinturato Velo 32mm Can't wait for some extra speed 😀
Ok Alex, you and Ollie have turned me into a tech nerd! How does this inner lining composite stack up against graphene which I thought was the new super material?
Hi, I don’t know much about bike wheels but does this fit on a clincher wheel if I use latex inner tube ? Or is there the same tyre for a clincher wheel ? Been watching loads of videos but can’t seem to find the answer, thank you
It should say "Speedcore" on the packaging, otherwise, it's best to ask if shopping in physical stores or read description carefully and check if there is Speedcore mentioned somewhere.
@@dainiusvysniauskas2049 I found some - unfortunately Pirelli hasn't released the yellow font for these. Yellow is inherently faster, they should know this. I like the medium compound tires. :D
Nitrogen coming to a canister near you! Some people already use it in cars because they claim it boosts fuel economy, lowers rolling resistance (where have we heard that term) and reduces air loss.
On a serious note [meaning, all jokes aside🤣] my high-school physics states that rolling resistance is based on the quality of the rubber, the tire pressure, the size of the of tire surface contacting the road, the road surface-->> rough, smooth, jagged, wet dry, oily,
Well, I guess I'm still a little old fashion or a little unsure of making the leap to tubeless😕 That said, I just purchased a new carbon wheelset, which I will mount a premium race tire. I like the Pirelli Road lightweight tube. What do you think of that tube? Any test done with it? Like the comments below, I too can't wait for some extra speed!!
My guess is Alex and GCN didn’t do research and testing for all that was said in the video, necessitating an occasional “according to Pirelli” for the sake of clarity.
The benefits, while major, won’t help me particularly drastically. I have more to improve in fitness and my bike in general before I’m even looking at marginal gains like this. However, I will always stick with Pirelli’s. They always seem to be very consistent in their sizing therefore have been the easiest tyre to install. At least out of the ones I’ve tried. They also have the added benefit of just looking great and just making an F1 fan happy.
Thats was expensive super tire 😅 I wondering what GCN opinion about continental grand sport race tire 😁 because i want hear the opinion about that tire also in few month i think i must change my tire and my plan want buy that tire.. thx
TBH tiers manufacturers are kind of putting themselves into a hole, we are quickly approaching peak performance with tiers. All pretty much playing catch up with conti and vittoria.
I know one thing they'll not be robust enough for my local roads I'll leave the GP4seasons on until the council decides to ever fix the god awful road surfaces which will be never.
Humor for my non-US friends: I knew somebody who lived in a giant tyre. He got a puncture one day and now he lives in a flat. Can you do better? Tell me a tyre joke, I'm waiting... no pressure!
Please give me a laugh after the hype the Price ?? there next innovation will push us up hills unaided without a pedal stroke like all these new super fast bikes costing off the scale prices that pedal themselves 😂🤣😂 What ever happened to value for money please its with the tooth fairy !.
What do you look for most when buying tyres? 🧐
i try to look for tyres ..yes! i`ve tried looking for
other household items but that gets me nowhere!🤣😂🙃
Tires in a size range from 32-36 and something that is durable but not super slow. I also like tubeless and I prefer a tire that adds some comfort instead of a harsh ride. Ability to maintain traction on wet roads is really important and longevity. If a tire can not last me a couple of seasons then that’s disappointing. I am a 200lb rider who rides a lot of long rides during the summer so the larger sizes are really nice!
Depends onH how smooth the inside and out since im using a road bike and also the weight
I look to price
With this being the main part in contact with the road, I am very demanding on tyres. Speed, puncture resistance and confidence on the bike. Had P zeros before and they fitted the bill. New bike came with different tyres, and I don't throw away unworn tyres, so will stick with them for a while. They are good anyway.
Pirelli throwing down the gauntlet to Continental. Cyclists can only benefit from this kind of rivalry.
That’s a daft take. Conti’s are far superior.
Pirelli’s belong in the bin 🗑️
Only if they’re in the top 10 in the Tour de France. Otherwise, it’s a waste of money.
@@saracen888 lol..my pirelli's are better than my conti's..my pr's prove it
@@saracen888conti 4000s were the best available. The 5000s are an improvement but others have moved ahead of them
About time they added 32 and 35 tires to the mix. Everyone is not a racer and some of us are heavier than others. If they are faster than the old ones and they are durable that will be awesome. I’ll buy a set for summer.
30 is already fine right? I'm a big rider too and even good 26mm tubeless were fine
Would love to see a comparison test with these vs the continentals for best tire
40 mm wide race tire sounds crazy. 🤯
Can you test them when they come out?
I'm a heavy rider, so I would consider a 40mm for rear (either 35 or 40) and 32 mm up front.
I am currently using P Zero Race TLR (w/ Zipp 303 Firecrest). I choose them because they are great all-rounders. Low rolling resistance & decent puncture protection.
I've got a set of Pirelli P Zero Race just waiting for my current tires to wear out. I'm looking forward to mounting them soon.
Enjoy!!! 💨
Those 40mm tires are a nice option for people who want a set of road/race wheels on their gravel bike.
What is the max TSS width recommended for each tire width and how does it compare with the previous generation? Haven't managed to find the information on Pirelli's website.
ALL channels are now sporting videos on tyres. It's getting tyresome watching!
It's spring!
We'll never tire of tyres 🙌
I bought a second pair of these to fit in Spring as I liked riding them. "try to put these tyres on my bike" is the last thing Alex says - good luck with that mate - because the latest pair I bought are so tight to the 21mm rim you need a vice and a jack to fit them. No chance of getting them off if you puncture on the road! AVOID unless you have the Hulk riding with you.
Wondering how the new layer copes with plugs if you need to repair a cut. Sounds like a potential improvement if the inner layer isn't a regular weave. I do hope they bring the new tech to their already excellent gravel tyres.
I love Pirelli tires and I prefer them to Conti's for several reasons ( an important one being that they are infinitely easier to mount on the side of the road). However, your viewers need to know that when Pirelli calls something a Race tire they are serious. In my experience over the last several years I have found that the Race versions of their tires are extremely prone to punctures and you really want to save those for your race days. And since the majority of GCN viewers don't race I strongly recommend getting the Road versions of their tires, which are very good in about every way even if they are slightly heavier and have a slightly higher rolling resistance than the Race versions.
What about the new p zero race 4s?
@@bonbonflippers4298 I've never tried them. But I will at some point. They might be perfect for my riding environment.
I run the current P-Zero 28 love the tires there the best.
Love the p zero I ride the current race and road versions been great 👍🤩🏅🚴
They are great tyres 🙌
I don't race, but I do ride long distances and some of the advantages of materials for racing (light weight and low rolling resistance, for example) benefit long distance riders. Do you suppose this tire in 30 or even 32 mm would be something I should look at?
I would be happy if the new one gives u any grip when roads turning wet. The old one was just horror full.
Would love to test it in 28mm
Ian with another 🔥 fire video. Super informative on the new p zeros. I might be able to keep the group insight on the ride. 🤞
Alex was reading ad copy from Pirelli…
Interesting, but that’s pretty bold talk from Pirelli. I’ll wait for an objective review from Bicycle Rolling Resistance before I swallow that claim.
BTW, the Conti GP5000S TR 25 is shown by BRR to have a resistance of 10.1 watts at 80 psi, while the previous PZero Race 26 is at 14.3 watts. Even with 24% savings, they still don’t quite get to the Conti (10.7 watts). So they beat themselves and are close to the benchmark, but no compelling reason for me to switch from the Conti’s (unless I win a free set).
2:30 So what you are saying is: They use magic rubber, gotcha.
4:25 my maths says the 28mm and 30mm are the same size tire.
I would like a version with the yellow decals. 💛
Perfect timing. The Pirelli P-Zero tires on my Pinarello have almost 6000 miles on them. I'll take a set of 28mm in black please.
Big miles! Nice work, will you be sticking with Pirelli in the future? 👀
@@gcntech Either Pirelli P-Zeros or Vittoria N.EXT. Recommendations?
Great video, Alex. So how do I know if I have the 'latest' TLR? (I got a new set last week). What distinguishes the old from the new?
The package says Speedcore, I'm guessing the sidewall might too...
I got a set last week too 😓… the new ones aren’t in stock until today - and that’s at the distributor, not necessarily retailers.
Wow 24% faster, that’s a big claim! A great subject for a GCM real world test. It would be interesting to know if 24% less rolling resistance actually means when you get them out on the road.
God no, they're sponsors. They can't dispute that claim! 😅
Go check out Bicycle Rolling Resistance for a real test. I won’t buy a manufacturer’s claim until I see real data. And those GCN “real world” tests are entertainment, not objective science.
It might be cool to see Alex visit the BRR lab to see how they do it.
Check BRR results. The existing ones are not fast to begin with.
@@SonnyDarvish they’re not slow though…
@@SonnyDarvish Yeah, 24% improvement still doesn’t match the Conti’s. And I’m guessing that is optimistic.
Thanks AKA.....the most important to me ? Price and durability , as I am OAF , and the illusion of speed is good enough for me !
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That looks good. And pretty fast.
24% increase in speed sounds like it can shorten riding time in a race with possibly 30 seconds (or more).
I know that my bike uses 35mm wide tyres. And the rims are not tubeless ready. Is it possible to use these with an innertube? I have innertubes myself.
Yes you can use inner tubes with tubeless tyres, no problem at all, but you will use a little more power to maintain a given speed versus running no tube. Also, most wheels can be converted to tubeless compatibility. Muc Off do a "ultimate" tubeless conversion kit with all the gear you need to do it. Happy riding👍
Where are we able to see previous winners of past competitions?
Recently I bought P Zero TLR 28mm Speedcore and I'm really disappointed.
28mm model measures ~26.5mm !! on 19mm inner width rim !! (the same was with P Zero Race 28 TLR TechWall) - no it's not true to size !!!
whereas other tires, Conti GP5000 or even Pirelli P Zero Road on the same rim have ~28.5-29mm !!!
Should I buy 30mm model to have correct 28-29mm tire ??
sort your shit out !!
Tubeless are a hit or miss, I have had rubbish tubeless tyres and had a set of outstanding tubeless ones. I am keen to try the Pirelli ones and see if they are up to challenge.
How come the weight of the new tires are the same but they are thinner?
Great informative video.
Looks like a good alternative choice for a summer tire and finally replace my winter draggy but trustworthy Cinturato Velo 32mm
Can't wait for some extra speed 😀
Ok Alex, you and Ollie have turned me into a tech nerd! How does this inner lining composite stack up against graphene which I thought was the new super material?
40mm road bike tires, who would have thought about that only a few years ago. If somebody wins Roubaix on those, the UCI has to step in. 😂
Hi, I don’t know much about bike wheels but does this fit on a clincher wheel if I use latex inner tube ? Or is there the same tyre for a clincher wheel ?
Been watching loads of videos but can’t seem to find the answer, thank you
Let me guess, 650b road still doesn't exist right?
Some questions on these - Will they retail with a new name? My local shops already have TLRs in stock, but they don't say/mention speedcore.
It should say "Speedcore" on the packaging, otherwise, it's best to ask if shopping in physical stores or read description carefully and check if there is Speedcore mentioned somewhere.
@@dainiusvysniauskas2049 I found some - unfortunately Pirelli hasn't released the yellow font for these. Yellow is inherently faster, they should know this. I like the medium compound tires. :D
I NEED these in my life ! :)
When will manufactures sell special air to go into the tubes or tyres? I guess it's only a matter of time!
Nitrogen coming to a canister near you!
Some people already use it in cars because they claim it boosts fuel economy, lowers rolling resistance (where have we heard that term) and reduces air loss.
@@h4rdcor31 Hmm🤔Thanks, you stopped me ion time. I was contemplating HYDROGEN💥
On a serious note [meaning, all jokes aside🤣] my high-school physics states that rolling resistance is based on the quality of the rubber, the tire pressure, the size of the of tire surface contacting the road, the road surface-->> rough, smooth, jagged, wet dry, oily,
Rolling resistance is definitely measurable, even on pavement.
good luck everyone
Well, I guess I'm still a little old fashion or a little unsure of making the leap to tubeless😕 That said, I just purchased a new carbon wheelset, which I will mount a premium race tire. I like the Pirelli Road lightweight tube. What do you think of that tube? Any test done with it? Like the comments below, I too can't wait for some extra speed!!
Just go tubeless you won't regret it
My guess is Alex and GCN didn’t do research and testing for all that was said in the video, necessitating an occasional “according to Pirelli” for the sake of clarity.
I look for the price value, durability and of course aesthetics Tan sidewall
are you team tanwall? 😎
The benefits, while major, won’t help me particularly drastically. I have more to improve in fitness and my bike in general before I’m even looking at marginal gains like this.
However, I will always stick with Pirelli’s. They always seem to be very consistent in their sizing therefore have been the easiest tyre to install. At least out of the ones I’ve tried. They also have the added benefit of just looking great and just making an F1 fan happy.
Pirelli is my new secret weapon...they are fast as hell..
Thats was expensive super tire 😅
I wondering what GCN opinion about continental grand sport race tire 😁 because i want hear the opinion about that tire also in few month i think i must change my tire and my plan want buy that tire.. thx
I'll stick with my Gator Skins, thanks. I have never seen this with them 3:45
TBH tiers manufacturers are kind of putting themselves into a hole, we are quickly approaching peak performance with tiers. All pretty much playing catch up with conti and vittoria.
40mm.. available on a race tire?!?!?! Wow.
😍😍 Tyre wooow
Do they work with hookless rims?
He literally answers this in the video.
Is there any mention of passing the giant bike protocol this time? The previous version failed giants test protocol
@@Jbgopro wondering same here
Really? I just got in my order for these 🙃
Ah! Next time maybe?
I know one thing they'll not be robust enough for my local roads I'll leave the GP4seasons on until the council decides to ever fix the god awful road surfaces which will be never.
GCN? Giveaway? Aaaaah, I get it. You're overstocked, right?🤣
Nooooooo and I've just fitted TLR SL's to my bike :(
295 GRAMS in case you haven't got time to watch the advert :)
Look most GCN Video about Tire =)
Need tan walls!!
Humor for my non-US friends:
I knew somebody who lived in a giant tyre.
He got a puncture one day and now he lives in a flat.
Can you do better? Tell me a tyre joke, I'm waiting... no pressure!
😮
Nice advertisement, pays the bills though I guess
40m nice.
Italian style
24% faster?.....In other words, the old tire will allow you to ride .2kph faster at 50kph, than with a cheap tire, and the new ones .205kph faster.
Bought these recently. Murder to put on and off and can't get them to run "round". Unbelieveable! Total waste of money.
Forza Italia 😂
Bad timing. I bought a P zero a couple of months back. 🙄
Maybe next time 😉 How are you getting no with the P zero?
@@gcntech For the summer bike so haven't even fitted it yet.
Video with (some) chemistry but no Ollie? He better be working on something good.
Oh he is don't you worry! 🤓
☸☸
It's 280g if you're lazy 😊
4:46 Alex says (and screen shows) 295
Please give me a laugh after the hype the Price ?? there next innovation will push us up hills unaided without a pedal stroke like all these new super fast bikes costing off the scale prices that pedal themselves 😂🤣😂 What ever happened to value for money please its with the tooth fairy !.
I am team #innerTube, but these fancy tires seem very intriguing
You can run them with a tube, Tubeless is the way to go though! 🙌
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