Fascinating how GzeroTzero did out-criminal the Hutts by way of a secret agenda to reestablish the Republic. For once I can concede to Machiavelli's "The ends justify the means". A horrible pity for all the collateral damage wreaked upon all innocent unintended victims.
Pizza The Hutt fears no man.....except for the one who eats Pizza.... yeah, Pizza The Hutt didn't live very long.....he ate himself when he got locked in his car..... ☠☠☠
Gross over-simplification. If you're going to simplify, then use the inverse. Modern day gang conflict regarding territories and resource extraction resemble middle age feudal hierarchies more than the reverse being true.
Interesting point of view, a historian recently had a point of view of Alexander the great and the Macedonians. He said that the ancient families operated more like mafia families than actual nation states.
I saw this one thing where you can force persuade a group of exchange enforcers on Nar Shaddaa in Kotor 2 to jump into the central pit. One said it was a faster way to get to the ground. 😂 I don’t think anyone should feel sorry, and you gain dark side points doing it, so that’s pretty cool.
I actually love the idea of the most powerful mob boss in the galaxy being a simple infrastructure droid. That could make an interesting story background on how the droid came to power.
Ah, Star Wars' take on the Shadow Broker's organization from Mass Effect (and also a prototype concept for the latter too). Toppling it from greatness sure is one of our best and underrated triumphs in the Star Wars Legends universe as a whole... hope it still doesn't exist intact in the Alt-universe though.
Kinda heard of them "Exchange" types... Woulda figured one the more notorious ones like Black Sun or Death Watch would intimidate the Hutts if any of them did. Seeing as many such types would do some pretty nasty things all the time throughout the Galaxy least till the Empire another HUGE heavy Sith an similar factions took over an started terrorizing everyone on either side of the Law
I remember the Exchange in Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic, KOTOR 2, and Star War the Old Republic. I always would have hated being on their bad side. If I had to, I would work for them. Even though that would be a very bad idea.
The problem with rivalling the Hutts is that even though you can outcompete them for a time, Hutts outlive every other species. Even if the Hutts lose power and influence, they will stay around to take advantage of any problems in your cartel.
From what I remember the exchange eventually became black sun itself. With members who were uncomfortable with this change splintering off to form their own syndicates
I know GoTo said it was impossible to build the Republic and follow Republic laws, but if you can explain what laws made progress impossible, that would make an interesting video
Just think of any current laws that are somewhat stupid in nature in the real world. For example new york state still has legal trial but combat. It's not much of a stretch to think the Republic is bogged down with many of the same things. GoTo himself implies he needed to use assassinations and illegal business deals in order to achieve his goal
The republic relied on legal procedures to enforce laws conducted by corrupted officers against even more corrupted criminals. Aka, laws nobody follows. GoTo was trying to actually enforce those laws, but it was utterly impossible since many of the steps to do so required approval of corrupted politicians. In other words, the rulers of the system made sure the system will never reach them. The only thing that kept the republic running was a united front against a common enemy, wich is exactly what the mandalorian, and later, the sith provided. As soon as the threat disipates, so does the patriotism and united effort. The main problem was the disconnect between the Coruscant senators and their represented systems. Anyone in a diplomatic mission was living a far superior life than most people in their homeworlds, wich meant the more struggles they got, no matter how pointless, the more power they got. Hence the impossibility of rebuilding the Republic under those conditions.
@@ertymexx indeed, it was a criticism of overreaching goverment. Truth is the biggest countries have huge problems ruling with national laws because the conditions between regions are far too different. The main example is USA. The country was never as successfull as when each state had the most power and independence. The more power they gave to the national goverment, the weaker it got.
Goto reminds me of a Droid version of Diavolo from Jojos Part 5 except Diavolo shoulda used a fake Identity (although I can see him doing just that) would love to see more about G0-T0 he was technically correct.
I may despize The republic but I like this Droid. He was doing what he was programed for with anything necesary to save The republic. At that Time it realy seemed or outright was illogical. You couldn't do that with "legal approach".
"I am Tyber Zann. Corruption is my weapon. And while the galaxy is distracted by civil war, I will strike." - Tyber Zann, leader of the Zann Consortium.
“Star Wars wouldn’t be Star Wars without morally bankrupt criminal organizations.” - Ironic, despite having “Wars” right there in the title, the most memorable aspects of Star Wars are the criminal-underworld & extralegal-resistance elements. ;D
It’s not that the Hutts feared them, that’s just how people chose to see it. Even G0-T0, the most successful of the Exchange Crime Lords, straight up said it best when he said the Y’tub system wasn’t truly his. Even he knew trying to take something directly from the Hutts was a fools gambit. They more or less operated on. Mutual respect deal to keep the peace. But there’s a reason the Hutts have outlived every organization.
About your video about Grey Jedi, your logic in that video (when it came to The Je'daii Order) didn't make sense to me. As far as I know, they broke apart, and became The Light-Side-Oriented Jedi Order after The RAKATA invaded Tython after 10,000 years of relative peace in their society. When The Rakata invaded, they showed just how much destruction one side of The Force can wrought in open conflict, and the trauma of that war led to The Force Wars that The Jedi Order resulted from. At least, that's how Metanerdz Lore implied it went.
Meetra was the only jedi left outside the core. The republic and jedi retreated to the core worlds after malak, after dantooine for the jedi specifically. Its in the revan book. The jedi council let him and bastila marry and stay jedi as long as they didnt take on padawans and stayed out of core world temples.
So anyone else seeing the similarities between the exchange and the shadow broker from mass effect? I will say BioWare thought of the exchange for Star Wars first so the shadow broker dlc and kasumis character dlc and loyalty op could be considered an Easter egg to their work on kotor both dlc have you toppling over two criminal master minds shadow broker being compared to Goto and davik kang compared to kasumis dlc main bad guy
can you do a video of how mutch a creddit is acctualy worth etc? like it fells quite wierd for in the novel darth maul lockdown it mentions "its no way you would have been able to get 30 000 credits from fighting, and that was 15 years of fighting so how mutch is a creddit worth, what other money systems is it like is there lower forms of curensies, and what would a average person be able to get in a year in the core etc
“You can’t out-criminal the Hutts, it seems.” That was either the funniest coincidence or the best reference to Spaceballs ever.
Scriptwriter here - reference :P
Fascinating how GzeroTzero did out-criminal the Hutts by way of a secret agenda to reestablish the Republic. For once I can concede to Machiavelli's "The ends justify the means". A horrible pity for all the collateral damage wreaked upon all innocent unintended victims.
You neither out-criminal nor out-pizza a Hutt.
The Exchange! I remember them from Star Wars: The Old Republic! They were common enemies on Nar Shaddaa.
Ah I see you are a man of culture as well
I saw the Droid with the face and instantly thought the enclave? It's kinda weird how they haven't found a way to restart the organization 😕
Same!!!
Nice to see a KOTOR fan in the wild
*"I fear no man, but that thing...it scares me"* - The Hutts, probably
Pizza The Hutt fears no man.....except for the one who eats Pizza....
yeah, Pizza The Hutt didn't live very long.....he ate himself when he got locked in his car.....
☠☠☠
To think about it, Feudal Wars in our history were basically ancient gang wars.
Gross over-simplification. If you're going to simplify, then use the inverse. Modern day gang conflict regarding territories and resource extraction resemble middle age feudal hierarchies more than the reverse being true.
@@somethingmoredecent - That's facts. Gang wars are modern implications of feudal wars.
Interesting point of view, a historian recently had a point of view of Alexander the great and the Macedonians. He said that the ancient families operated more like mafia families than actual nation states.
That's the majority of Human History to a degree.
@@luisdoyer3260 But of course.
The fact that a droid decided to make a character based on movies it saw will never not be funny to me
And it worked, too!
I saw this one thing where you can force persuade a group of exchange enforcers on Nar Shaddaa in Kotor 2 to jump into the central pit. One said it was a faster way to get to the ground. 😂 I don’t think anyone should feel sorry, and you gain dark side points doing it, so that’s pretty cool.
Yeah I just did that a week or so ago playing it on my Xbox lol I believe if you have atton on your team he makes a comment on it.
@Simon Willis 😂
While undercover on Nar Shadaa, my consular ordered the execution of an Imperial officer.
"Star wars wouldn't be star wars without morally bankrupt criminal organizations."
Hmm... can't tell if you're talking about the huts or Disney.
yes
What's the difference?
Hutts*
@@valentinkambushev4968 the hutts are less hypocritical
I actually love the idea of the most powerful mob boss in the galaxy being a simple infrastructure droid. That could make an interesting story background on how the droid came to power.
Ah, Star Wars' take on the Shadow Broker's organization from Mass Effect (and also a prototype concept for the latter too). Toppling it from greatness sure is one of our best and underrated triumphs in the Star Wars Legends universe as a whole... hope it still doesn't exist intact in the Alt-universe though.
It would be interesting to see what Bioware took from their writing on KOTOR and what they incorporated into Mass effect!
It’s awesome hearing about all these criminal groups in Star Wars! Amazing video!
Kinda heard of them "Exchange" types... Woulda figured one the more notorious ones like Black Sun or Death Watch would intimidate the Hutts if any of them did. Seeing as many such types would do some pretty nasty things all the time throughout the Galaxy least till the Empire another HUGE heavy Sith an similar factions took over an started terrorizing everyone on either side of the Law
Black sun and death watch were to small to matter compared to the hutts who had entire sectors under their control
@@Amresh10 Black Sun was pretty damn big themselves, at least in Legends. They just suffered after Maul cleaned house on them for a bit.
@@BlackIce3190 haha cleaned house more like he demolished the house and built a new one on top of it
I remember the Exchange in Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic, KOTOR 2, and Star War the Old Republic. I always would have hated being on their bad side. If I had to, I would work for them. Even though that would be a very bad idea.
I agree lol they had so many bounty hunters, the best of the best. Your only choice was pay them or join them if you could
The problem with rivalling the Hutts is that even though you can outcompete them for a time, Hutts outlive every other species. Even if the Hutts lose power and influence, they will stay around to take advantage of any problems in your cartel.
I enjoy the Imp World Quest for Nar Shaddaa in SWTOR. Turning Exchange Elite Mooks into mush is pretty fun.
From what I remember the exchange eventually became black sun itself. With members who were uncomfortable with this change splintering off to form their own syndicates
There’s only one other thing the slug bois fear.
Salt
I know GoTo said it was impossible to build the Republic and follow Republic laws, but if you can explain what laws made progress impossible, that would make an interesting video
I recall seeing something on this once.
Pretty sure one was no death/killing.
Just think of any current laws that are somewhat stupid in nature in the real world. For example new york state still has legal trial but combat. It's not much of a stretch to think the Republic is bogged down with many of the same things. GoTo himself implies he needed to use assassinations and illegal business deals in order to achieve his goal
The republic relied on legal procedures to enforce laws conducted by corrupted officers against even more corrupted criminals. Aka, laws nobody follows. GoTo was trying to actually enforce those laws, but it was utterly impossible since many of the steps to do so required approval of corrupted politicians. In other words, the rulers of the system made sure the system will never reach them. The only thing that kept the republic running was a united front against a common enemy, wich is exactly what the mandalorian, and later, the sith provided. As soon as the threat disipates, so does the patriotism and united effort. The main problem was the disconnect between the Coruscant senators and their represented systems. Anyone in a diplomatic mission was living a far superior life than most people in their homeworlds, wich meant the more struggles they got, no matter how pointless, the more power they got. Hence the impossibility of rebuilding the Republic under those conditions.
@@juliofranciscogomezstoppel1860 not at all like in the real world. ;-)
@@ertymexx indeed, it was a criticism of overreaching goverment. Truth is the biggest countries have huge problems ruling with national laws because the conditions between regions are far too different. The main example is USA. The country was never as successfull as when each state had the most power and independence. The more power they gave to the national goverment, the weaker it got.
So the only thing you can tell me is that I will find Jabba at Jabba’s Palace
:)
Some more great Star Wars lore I know nothing about. Thanx Geetslys
(Edit) that was cool!
Glad to be of service!
The classic hijacked codes shtick. I love it
Yeah the Senate was a very powerful syndicate
True
That was until the Republic atomized Goto's yacht.
Yes, I'd like more content on the Exchange, Davik, and, especially, GO-TO.
Apparently, the Exchange never learned one of the major rules of the Star Wars galaxy, don't mess with the Hutts. lol.
“No one out criminals the Hutts”
Goto reminds me of a Droid version of Diavolo from Jojos Part 5 except Diavolo shoulda used a fake Identity (although I can see him doing just that) would love to see more about G0-T0 he was technically correct.
Durge just returned to Canon in Marvel's Dr. Aphra #11! 😎👍
The Exchange it brought up in the Star Wars the old republic deceived audiobook where this guy named zerid has to pay off this debt to them
Great video as always Geetsly. Have you done a video on the Black Sun yet or Prince Xizor by question.
If he does it has to be legends
The hutts also learned to fear the Zann Consortium.
Tyber Zann is the greatest SW Criminal.
The fact i consider myself a star wars fan and i just learned a whole new syndicate is crazy 🤣
Welcome to Geetslys haha
Ahh, what Knockout from Transformers Prime was doing on the side.
Morally bankrupt, sounds like the house of mouse!
Why is it when ever the republic tries to do a thing it’s a fucking joke??? XD LMAO
Top tier channel, I just cut a large swarth into the subscribe button!
I may despize The republic but I like this Droid. He was doing what he was programed for with anything necesary to save The republic. At that Time it realy seemed or outright was illogical. You couldn't do that with "legal approach".
The Criminal underworld is so
ok next talk about the REAL criminal organisation that rivalled the Hutts: Czerka Corp
I definitely hate Czerka after playing through the SWTOR Tattoine story arc.
"I am Tyber Zann. Corruption is my weapon. And while the galaxy is distracted by civil war, I will strike." - Tyber Zann, leader of the Zann Consortium.
G0-T0
The self-aware AI that was purely opportunistic and incredibly intelligent as opposed to genocidal and delusional.
I want a full story on the Genoharadan from KOTOR.
Senate was too dangerous to be left alive
Awesome! Prehistory of Star Wars is an interesting subject to me. Thank you.
GO-TO was such a wonderful blink to Asimov's robot series. :-D
I never even heard of this organisation
Black Sun, hello...
A Hutt asking for....what is that word? It's Such a strange word in that far way galaxy🤔
They tried to out pizza the Hut.
Fatal mistake.
I never really feared the Hutt criminal empire, but the Exchange was to be feared and not trifled with. KOTOR 2 put this in perspective for me
Is that a grunt in the crowd at 2:30 lol
Man this makes me miss G0-T0
I really, really enjoyed this one. More please on The Exchange, thank you.
Big Daddy Hutt in the thumbnail is my new favorite Hutt
The Hutts most definitely feared the Senate.
as a KOTOR 2 fan I would love to see more love for G0-T0 please.
“You can’t out-criminal the hutts” you did not just say that XD lol
“Star Wars wouldn’t be Star Wars without morally bankrupt criminal organizations.” - Ironic, despite having “Wars” right there in the title, the most memorable aspects of Star Wars are the criminal-underworld & extralegal-resistance elements. ;D
It’s not that the Hutts feared them, that’s just how people chose to see it. Even G0-T0, the most successful of the Exchange Crime Lords, straight up said it best when he said the Y’tub system wasn’t truly his.
Even he knew trying to take something directly from the Hutts was a fools gambit. They more or less operated on. Mutual respect deal to keep the peace. But there’s a reason the Hutts have outlived every organization.
I want to learn more about the exchange
i would love to see a video about that droid (Wasent that droid effected by drone madness?)
What a shame. While the Exchange is quite a mess to deal with, I had hoped for the Zann Consortium...
Everybody gangster until a droid takes over
6:15 this face
2:35 anybody else notice the elite, jackal, and 2 grunts from halo?
About your video about Grey Jedi, your logic in that video (when it came to The Je'daii Order) didn't make sense to me. As far as I know, they broke apart, and became The Light-Side-Oriented Jedi Order after The RAKATA invaded Tython after 10,000 years of relative peace in their society. When The Rakata invaded, they showed just how much destruction one side of The Force can wrought in open conflict, and the trauma of that war led to The Force Wars that The Jedi Order resulted from. At least, that's how Metanerdz Lore implied it went.
I just love old republic content
All that for a “you can’t put criminal the hutts” LOL masterfully done
*I fear no man,but that thing..it scares me*
The Exchange: the mega-powerful crime syndicate run by a droid.
No one can out criminal the Hutts, but you can try to out pizza them
Ha! Reminds me of Pizza the Hutt from Spaceballs 😆😂
I'm surprised we don't have a pii'zaa the hutt in star wars
Actually, Meetra Surik was trying to find Jedi Masters, not seek an audience with G0-T0. Master Zez Kai Ell was also on Nar Shadaa in hiding.
The Hutts only fear one thing... the high ground.
If you play swtor they are a common enemy on nar shadda and tatooine. Such a shame they didnt exist during the clone wars.
Now this is the movie we need. The book of whatever? /the Mandalorian whatever ?give me the story.
I remember first encountering the Exchange from the first Kotor game.
Ah but you have mistaken me. I do not wish to save the republic
Here's an interesting video idea on the forgotten laat carrier seen in star wars republic commando.
You can't out-slime a giant space slug.
Kieregan Freem doesn't fear the hutt cartel. Kieregan Freem spits on the hutt cartel
5:00 ebon hawk is in swgoh
You can't out pizza the hutt's
Star Wars Yakuza
Request could you do some star wars what ifs
No one out-criminals the Hutts!
No love for the Star Cabal?
9:35 WOW! I KNOW, GOTO IS ONLY (ONLY!) A DROID, BUT THAT STILL, TAKES SOME MEATBAG BALLS. I WONDER WHERE HE GOT THEM?
The Nihil of course.
Just like in the book, we’re all waiting for GO-TO.
Meetra was the only jedi left outside the core. The republic and jedi retreated to the core worlds after malak, after dantooine for the jedi specifically. Its in the revan book. The jedi council let him and bastila marry and stay jedi as long as they didnt take on padawans and stayed out of core world temples.
The Sith Triumvirate wiped out all but one of the Jedi, Atris
So anyone else seeing the similarities between the exchange and the shadow broker from mass effect?
I will say BioWare thought of the exchange for Star Wars first so the shadow broker dlc and kasumis character dlc and loyalty op could be considered an Easter egg to their work on kotor both dlc have you toppling over two criminal master minds shadow broker being compared to Goto and davik kang compared to kasumis dlc main bad guy
So Hutts are actually got bodied by an actually unknown Synsicate ?!
If you haven't done a video on the black sun, rival criminal empire, maybe could do a video on them.
can you do a video of how mutch a creddit is acctualy worth etc? like it fells quite wierd for in the novel darth maul lockdown it mentions "its no way you would have been able to get 30 000 credits from fighting, and that was 15 years of fighting
so how mutch is a creddit worth, what other money systems is it like is there lower forms of curensies, and what would a average person be able to get in a year in the core etc
@Geetsly's Would you please discuss the Czerka Corp. and their relationship to The Exchange and their demishioned existense in the New Republic?
the hutts feared nobody
No out criminal’s the Hutts 😂😂😂😂
Were those loses a... general grievous?
was that the ship from the old republic game?
I thought they signed a truce not to be in the way boss
That government isn't a thief
What is the eeben hawk?