I think James raise the Box office artist I think you should do more of these drawings like you just did with Spider-Man and challenge yourself use your knowledge of dino transformers drawings and the mechanics and make them the way you just made this I would love to see what you make and how it comes out at the end it should be intriguing to see if you can do better than an AI like you're saying nothing comes closer to a hand-drawn artist look at Draw Something from visuals the way you do it seriously I think you should do more of these
Box office artist James Reyes I think you should try to do these more often I'm replying again second time only because I replied to your home specific message box messages and eyes from people who like your artwork and reply back my personal opinion I think you should continue to do this kind of artwork and challenge yourself to see if you can outsmart an AI and do better then you can show other artist that hey I cannot always do better than a natural-born hand-drawn artist can when it comes to drawing it has to learn and adapt from us less we learn from it it is nothing more than a tool and I think as people come to learn this overtime we will learn to accept it as nothing but a tool to learn you don't seem to be like bitter about it as I've seen other artists who don't quite agree with AI as being a cheat or as something that can do better than them and their work by taking our pieces and our work that they do and make a Highborn eyes are piece itself and I think that by you doing what you do by showing that artist still do better that they give some hope to these artists that's what I think so just keep up the good work
This is what I miss in the art community and especially this channel: just sitting down with a little bit of process and character design. This is the kinda content that inspired me to start drawing myself and I'd love to see more artists return to this instead of challenges and such. Love the piece James!
I believe as AI art becomes more commonplace and easy for average people to create this in itself will hopefully create a boom for traditional artists. As I feel that traditional art over the past decade or so has lost value, AI art will bring that value back when people realize that the emotion and soulfulness of human created art is just so much more valuable on multiple levels.
I just feel that artists don’t get much attention for their dedicated hard work. You can get this man to create phenomenal art which some people would want to copy and redraw and get no views and likes and attention whereas someone just types a few words and everyone will like it. Really love your work
It is such a pleasure to watch a comic artist work! Loved the Gak. Loved the love. Even if we get to a point where you couldn’t tell just from looking which picture had the human love put into it, we will still prefer the human work because we know the love went into it. If that makes sense
Art is a gift beyond those limited electrical power boxes available to the average...hence why art collectors appreciates the craft by those with rare gifted skills.
I’ve been drawing for five years and I’ve been trying my hardest to improve and have my art stand out from others. When I see the AI make those images it discourages the heck out of me and destroys my motivation. It is amazing to see someone with experience take on against ai.
come on man. AI is a tool to be used. Next time you want to draw to something, let AI do it first, and compare it with your vision, and then improvise to make your work better. At first glance, AI looks better, but when a specific task is asked of a person and an AI, AI will always fall behind as it is meant to do an objective job. It can't be subjective as humans can be.
So... What you're feeling is the same as some traditionalists felt when digital art started getting big. People dedicated decades learning how shade and make color transitions with ink and all that and then all of a sudden people were using apps with thousands of brushes and layers and selections and all sorts of "cheats". Lots of artists resisted changing to digital for kind of a long time. I think AI is not going anywhere and artists are gonna have to find a way to work with/around it. I'm guessing the market for illustration and concept art will keep getting hit harder though.
I think its best to draw what you like and what you imagin in your head because it makes it more special knowing how hard you worked on something with your own hands and mind instead of using an AI to draw something. Drawing things on your own is hard and sometimes a struggle but in the same time it makes that pf what you are drawing the perfect thing, knowing how better you can do and what kind of ideas you can add into a drawing.
I appreciate your approach to this controversial topic. There is understandable passion and many conflicting perspectives, so it is great to hear your thoughts laid out with care and compassion. And the final piece is just phenomenal! Thank you!
I’ve said it plenty of times… THIS is why true artists won’t be replaced by ai. Enjoying and appreciating the process and love put into man-made artwork is within us as humans. It’s therapeutic.
The sad truth is, they already are.....Artists say companies are already outsourcing entry-level work to generative AI. Artist will always have a place in the field but the jobs getting even more limited which is the problem.
Of course they aren't. It was a dumbass, paranoid idea to begin with. *REAL* artists will use AI art more and more as one of their many tools. Luddite crybabies will keep making up spooky stories about it.
@@Kanoog Not all artists say that bullshit, though. Only the ones who are afraid for no reason. And, needless to say, they're pulling it out of their asses.
I'm a drawing and 3d hobbyist (not professional yet) but doing this as a hobby, I definitely agree with you, James. I 100% prefer art done by an artist, rather than something pure AI-generated. I prefer the artist every day. That being said, I think just like when 3d art was a new thing, that AI-generated stuff will play a part in the future of artwork. It will change and evolve and become something artists will eventually incorporate into their workflow. Definitely NOT in its current form of "oh just type some words and I get industry-level art spit out", but it will definitely change in the future and change to be incorporated into an artist's workflow. We'll have to wait for a couple of years for that to change, though.... :P
In my opinion, Art AI Generators enable people who are creative, but cannot draw with the ability to achieve what they have wanted to be able to do potentially their whole life. When you talked of the love you have when you are creating and drawing, could that not be the same emotion realised by the non-artist as the images they can see in their mind start to take shape based on the prompts they enter into the generator?
Yep, this. I think the problem is people selling the art. I understand the technical aspect of it's created by a machine, thus no human input was needed and so it's not possible to "steal" an artists work via AI. However, I do use it as enjoyment. I'm an artist but I can't draw. I do album covers and stuff that don't require that side of me but I am always thinking, always having ideas. And Midjourney lets me realize those ideas in ways I could never do on my own. But I don't claim the work to be mine and I don't sell it.
@@_gr1nchh Pretty sure you are saying exactly what was said by every Ford employee when they were replacement with what is now considered a standard automotive manufacturing line. I don't agree with AI, as it will impact far more jobs than just the art industry, but unfortunately, money drives the world and if it reduces cost, then businesses will use it and drop their number of employees. :(
@@Grimasaurus Human input isn't needed on automotive line because there's no creativity needed. There's no thought process. It's just diagrams and numbers, can all be pre-programmed. You can't pre-program AI to make something exact. As a graphic designer, I feel zero threat from AI, personally.
I definitely think it's bad that ai might be replacing artists, actors, and a lot of other really talented people! It's pretty impressive, but it has flaws. When your in the process of creating something, and you want to make sure it comes out perfect, It's better you make it yourself than to rely on a computer to do it all for you in a matter of minutes. This was a really cool idea for a video and drawing! I'm excited to see more of this! :D
Honestly, I feel like AI could be a really helpful tool in a professionals tool box. AI is amazing for concept art. You can try a 100 different designs with AI in the time it would take you to do a handful of sketches and they would be more detailed than a sketch as well as being colored. In theory, it could save you alot of time when it comes to finding the right design and the right color combination that you can then use fleshing out your idea. But I don't think that AI in its current form could replace an artist. For one, it's not smart enough. Look at the spider on the chest for example. It knows spiderman has a symbol on his chest, so it tries to recreate it. But it doesn't know it's supposed to be a spider and it doesn't always have the same amount of legs, it just knows lines are supposed to meet up there to form a symbol. You may also see too many fingers, toes or teeth on people for that reason because it knows people have those things in pictures, but it doesn't know what those things are. Ai is good for "good enough" pictures but professionals are needed to perfect things and will be needed for some time.
@@arthand7672 I use to use it for concept art but not anymore. If you develop your imagination and technical skills (composition, coloring, etc.) that's more powerful than Ai imho, which generates more generic art.
I agree with what you said, i am a self artist, the love and time it takes to make something popup and lively cannot be rendered by A.I. in minutes, plus as a technical guy A.I. can never create anything of its own, it always will need data...so artist will always reign supreme when it comes to independent thinking , creativity and ingenuity, human minds are way so much more complex than any A.I can comprehend, only advantage machines have, is that they don't get exhausted or tired!!
My #1 gripe is that you had his left hand palm down aiming downward for his webbing. Spider-man rarely goes palm downward, and usually only does so with the symbiote.
Once upon a time, someone invented the photograph. Portrait artists were probably worried about being put out by this new instant picture technology, but look how things actually turned out. AI won't replace us, it will only make us more valuable.
I agree, because ulitmately the real world is what makes a difference for us. People have always used things for reference, sculptures, architecture, all came from an idea that was based off of something else. AI Will just help us create more.
It will make getting jobs for concept artist even harder, that is the issue. It is highly unlikely that it will ever completely replace human artists, it's just going to make those jobs way, WAY harder to get now compared to before and it was already a pain in the ass prior to AI.
There's a lot of people with kool ideas who don't have the talent to make what they see in their heads. A.I. gives those people a chance to see their ideas just like a real artist. Real artist get to see something outside of the typical creative tropes and rules that none artists don't know are taboo. Collectively it's just a great way to appreciate ideas overall.
A.i is a tool not a weapon, it could be used to create ref images, ver of previous illustrations, improve your art by trying to be as good as what the A.i gives you,.... it can be a huge help but unfortunately people use it to harm, steal & more with a lot of people rightfully angry about it but they give a baseline of arguments similar to what was used when digital art started to pop up. There is still a lot to work on amongst ourselves but if we can make it it could be awesome to see what young artist would be able to do in this new environment.
While I see AI as a tool for someone who may feel they are lacking in art and maybe have a hard time designing a character, as in they have a description but can't seem to put it together. And then you have people who have an awesome idea but don't or feel they don't have the art skills to pull it off. But for the artist, who works so hard to accomplish those skills to make it into beautiful art, I agree with you. The value in the hours of work and polishing off the piece they work on it quite higher. I feel AI should really be used as a way to brainstorm your ideas, kinda like sculpting until you have the right concept of what you are trying to create... BUT also be used for those who have an awesome idea and need an outlet to bring it into creation, but little to no art skills.
You chose a great topic. It's also skin deep and a mile wide. Too many people have opinions on why it's bad without confessing what it's doing wrong. Generative AI models trained on human art cant legally use private IP without risking being sued. Businesses and clients get to choose what products they buy, so AI art as an option is not bad even if the competition costs artists some prospective clients. New encryption software is successfully hiding art from web-scraping AI, so there is not only law but proactive measures against theft. The AI itself is usually a python program that's been run hundreds of times over a dataset. If the programmer has rights to the dataset and makes a tool that provides people with arguably "better" products they prefer over traditional art commissioning, then that's just business and I feel sorry for the vocal artists that aren't used to competing with technology. It comes for every industry, and it's progress, not a malicious electronic plagiarist. When you understand the tool and don't fear competition, there's no threat to you. Just stay wise, research how to protect your art, and provide something competitive. Now, do you choose to adapt in the face of adversity? Will you outshine your competition? AI doesn't make etsy shops [yet], but it can be trained on a single artist's portfolio to generate new artwork for them, in their style, to sell on an etsy shop. Use the tool. Adapt, don't bicker. This debate is dumb.
Artists fine tune every aspect and create that individuality, but like a collage/sampling work maybe it is using it only as an example, or the smallest fragment of an existing piece. it is in my mind comparable to some degree in this AI art issue. I'm not sure that I would ever say it is a one to one comparison of something like an art director when someone inputs another word, direction, another art sample/artist for directing the AI. Even something like soup can prints, or a signed upside-down urinal is minimally appealing for some intellectually, aesthetically, or even emotionally. You might think less of a painting after someone told you that they found out it was a copy, although still done by another person. however, what if it was a print that was varnished over? maybe even a print, painted over with some slight differences. We have issues with determining what is acceptable at least in terms of credit when someone uses any extent of someone's work. To some extent these AI pieces could be viewed as a collaboration/collage, just as someone in digital art might take/use photos and overlap them while adding filters and other elements... that grey space just got even broader.... and grey-er?
I think your absolutely right about the love. You can totally feel it when the passion isnt there whether its art or a movie or whatever. AI art has this feel thats reminiscent of when art is too focus tested or has to much corporate ick on it. Theres just something hard to describe about that feels wrong.
Whoa bro!!!! You’re an amazing talent!!!! I would really cherish any art you did over an AI any day…..and that goes for any artist but you are spectacular…..I also do comic art but my stuff looks like the 1970’s 1980’s comics…..I could never do what you did here….bravo man, I absolutely love your cybernetic design!!!
You're one of the first artists open minded with AIs that I see... I'm struggling in the between... while I can easily see my ideas come to life with AI, there's nothing like drawing it by hand and thinking about every detail...
Artificial intelligence can be an easier way to draw and brings out the detail all with a few words but it defeats the purpose for all artist both traditional and digital.
This is actually a cool and really helpful thing to do. Ai tends to make things very detailed so it helps in learning how to render high quality but also because its Ai if you try to outline something you will notice that there's random lines leading to nothing and you have to figure out yourself what to do in certain areas.🥰
2:23 Could the AI do this on its own..." Can a human do any work of art "on their own"? Can any one human being create the entire concept of drawn/painted works from scratch with no assistance, no inspiration? No tracing, no references, no classes, not even a passing glance at other works of art to see how someone else did it? Didn't think so. That is precisely why the "AI is theft" argument doesn't hold water. People are trying to apply a double standard by saying humans can reference other works without permission but its somehow different when a semi-automated program does it.
Ai can help writers starting out who maybe can’t afford an artist. Art using art. But for a person to use it as a fast lane, and sell it as art is wrong. I have already seen it at comic cons.
I been doing this too. Taking A.I. art and drawing it traditionally. As much as I don't like the idea of A.I. art I do see it in the future as a tool. I just don't like the lack of effort,
Your work is amazing! I like drawing robots and can do pretty good with the gestures. The detail is a bit hard because my mental library for that type of work is not all there yet. It would be great if you had a video on how to learn to draw basic joints and details from imagination (after lots of practice of course). Thanks and please keep sharing your inspiring work!
The current AI image generators works by copying and integrating images originally created by drawing artist, 3d artist, photographers etc. Whatever the results this fact should always be acknowledged and a better question than 'I wonder what prompt was used' when an exceptional image caught your interest should be 'I wonder what the images sources were?' Love your drawing, by the way...
I agree human created art is more coveted than prompted art no doubt. Because of these generators not only have I appreciated art more I am studying and learning about art and now making part of my goals is to draw and create my own artworks from scratch and I don't think I am the only case in which this is true.
Ah, so I'm not the only one who does this huh? It is really helpful to get inspired (or laugh with the mistakes It makes) With generative images. Of course, I Draw everything from scratch. Its not like the "Only Add water and serve" people tends to do.
I think ai generates the overall look of the image while an artist draws every detail manually. That's why if you zoom in and ai image you will often see smoothing and other weird artifacts.
Awesome. That’s how you get back at AI art. As a comic artist/animator, I don’t use it in my works, but I’m also not totally against it. I’ve used it for concept ideas, HDRI’s, but of always draw and paint the concepts by hand. It beats going on pinterest for hours looking for the right ninja suit or tactical armor. Who knows where it goes in the future but nothing can take away the enjoyment of drawing and coloring by hand.
Another thing that machines won't be able to do anytime soon is teach how to draw. I think that drawing in each style is unique and different, and is accompanied by experiences, personal experiences that machines will never have. I heard that the pokemon creator liked insects, for example. I identify with this for example and it is inspiring.
Everytime I am browsing through Pinterest, there's always AI arts of my favorite characters. At the first glampse, they looked cool somewhat very outstanding. But atfterwards, it just gets tiring, a repetative style over and over again. The look might be colorful and fansy, but just like you said James, there is a lack of Heart and Soul to it, the time and love that has been put into. In the history of art, there are such a deep connections to life itself. There was no computer, there was no technology to support anything. Life, is where the ideas, inspirations come from, and thrrough art, there are flaws to it, and that is totally FINE, because that''s the beauty in it. Nothing is flawless, nothing is perfect, and that is what makes art perfect, Perfect Imperfection. Different artists, different styles, makes life colorful, AI can nevver ever replace that.
I'm not a free hand artist or anything like that i'm a vector artist but i am Glad I ran into your video I will Add some of these techniques to my vector art
Dang, that looks so cool! Your skill is amazing! It's funny of you to say you "stole" from the AI art, it looked like you just used it as reference. 😄 I've been trying to learn digital art for lie 4 years now, and the AI art is a bit disheartening. Although recently I started using my original skillset of photoshopping pictures to start fixing AI images. I think that's more of actually stealing AI art. 😅 Although I've only got a few videos up. They may be nsfw, lust a heads up. But I totally agree that the process of creation affects the value of the art. I'm not saying all AI art is worthless, because I also feel that the worth of items is very individualized. So yeah, I don't appreciate how complicated AI art has made the subject to be.
Machines taking over this area was surprising. This phenomenon was like a surprise impact from a tsunami, when you don't even know what a tsunami is. I want someone to correct me if I'm wrong. Machines still can't copy vibes, like ghibli, marvel, dc, disney. These vibes, patterns, could be the watermark in the future.
Amazing art!!! 👍 Keep up the excellent work bro! --- I think the only way to compete with AIGA (AI-Generated Art) is by creating original (Physical) artwork and selling it as "original artwork from a human artist." I don't think we artists can compete with the speed and details AI can generate, but one thing AI cannot do is create original physical artwork from a human being. I understand the human artist's market will get smaller and smaller as AI becomes extremely better every few months, but we artists shouldn't raise the white flag, yet. We have 6 years to establish our brand...unfortunately, by 2030 human artists making art manually will become obsolete. Most of us artists will become Prompt-Artists.
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I think purple shouldn't look at AI as some tool that will remove artist. Instead, it's going to replace artist who themselves aren't using AI. Kinda like how photoshop and similar tools changed the meta.
I liked very much that you didn't come off as immediately negative on AI. That was refreshing. I completely understand how it makes artists feel. I understand their concerns about how it learned to draw too, but it is fairly analogous to how humans learn, just a lot less efficient in some ways (we have the advantage of learning many of the concepts from our embodiment in the physical reality it's trying to portray without ever living as a human, in addition to having a superior architecture in some key ways).
I have a lot of opinions on this one, First of all the fear surrounding AI art is the same as when photoshop was invented, or 3d software, or digital audio, digital cinema, the list goes on. New things are scary, but thus far we have not seen the end of Traditional painting, 2d animation, model building etc. They took a hit, but have since bounced back. Same goes for this new AI tool. This video is the most basic proof of how a tool can help an artist. However, Midjourney is a paid algorithm and more of a fun toy, to call the output your art is disingenuous. The open source models afford a massive amount of control, and can be adopted even now to an artists process to help speed their workflow, teach them about their own bad habits and give them ideas. A general workflow for an artist that is widely used is Thumbnail to larger layout which is mostly the basic forms, then to a finished artwork. Consider an artist training a model on his own layout and finished style. You could feed it a thumbnail and have it spit out the layouts for you. Do a few quick fixes and print it out blueline for your finished pencils, or underpainting etc. Also if you train it on your art and look at the results you will probably see patters of your own bad habits or repeated shape language, that you wouldn't normally see and can fix. This is just the start. Eventually it will be like having a great assistant who can teach you things.
I think it's telling that AI pulls from images artists have created to create a render. It would have no concept of Spider-Man without all of the artwork it pulls from. It'd have no concept of gears or cyborgs, or anything without the images human artists have created.
I've hired artist in the past, and what I've found out is the best and worst thing about hiring an artist.. is the artist. AI is nice and all, but it's a long way from a great artist, but also it definitely is better than a bad one!
To be honest it is badass as always but I think it would have looked better if the hand positions were 11:06 flipped, meaning having the twap hand and the fist swap. Twap hand upside down.
This. THIS is what AI art was made for: an extension of the creative process, turning your ideas into concrete visual concepts to go off of and reference for your final product. You are amazing James!
I'm glad to see artists who are starting using AI to their own advantage. Remember folks: You won't be replaced by an AI, you will be replaced by someone USING an AI.
Please color this one! Your art far surpasses anything done by AI, because of the human element. The computer is not creating. It's generating from a creative source. The artist!
I Agree with U joy of drawing, spend that time more addictive then drugs & alcohol cos this feeling is Love to art & satisfaction of results. I like Your concept, make Me inspired to again make some scratches on the paper. Keep doin' Ya Work Man, it is worth it & Awesome
The A.I art is cool,but I have to agree, the art produced by the artist is preferred, just because of the time spent and the heart that's put into the creation
Love it !!!!!! BUT GODDAMN show the finish render WAaaaaaAY longer at the end !!!! We can't even appreciate it !! And it deserve it clearly. I'm frustrated damn 😂
I love how you said that AI needs human references to make stuff look cool, but there would be no way on earth that AI could create stuff that epic on its own. We have a soul and the incessant desire to create, and you never know when a prodigy comes out of nowhere and blows everybody's mind away, but if you were to make an AI program to be creative from scratch, with no reference, all it would know is nothingness, so it would produce nothingness.
I think AI is here to stay, but it will not replace the human element. If we view art as a pyramid, the human made art will always be the capstone. Yes the bulk of the pyramid may become ai generated, but the premium art will always be human drawn stuff. People will pay big bucks for the premium art.
Let me know if you want me to COLOR it in a SEPARATE VIDEO! and WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON AI? Let me know below!
Yes color it
i love your videos
Yeah Boi I like the white and gold. It looks like the white power ranger but obviously its your call. I just want to see it colored!
I think James raise the Box office artist I think you should do more of these drawings like you just did with Spider-Man and challenge yourself use your knowledge of dino transformers drawings and the mechanics and make them the way you just made this I would love to see what you make and how it comes out at the end it should be intriguing to see if you can do better than an AI like you're saying nothing comes closer to a hand-drawn artist look at Draw Something from visuals the way you do it seriously I think you should do more of these
Box office artist James Reyes I think you should try to do these more often I'm replying again second time only because I replied to your home specific message box messages and eyes from people who like your artwork and reply back my personal opinion I think you should continue to do this kind of artwork and challenge yourself to see if you can outsmart an AI and do better then you can show other artist that hey I cannot always do better than a natural-born hand-drawn artist can when it comes to drawing it has to learn and adapt from us less we learn from it it is nothing more than a tool and I think as people come to learn this overtime we will learn to accept it as nothing but a tool to learn you don't seem to be like bitter about it as I've seen other artists who don't quite agree with AI as being a cheat or as something that can do better than them and their work by taking our pieces and our work that they do and make a Highborn eyes are piece itself and I think that by you doing what you do by showing that artist still do better that they give some hope to these artists that's what I think so just keep up the good work
This is how I use AI... To generate my own references.
That s a cool way ti use it, as long as you don t take those "drawings" as they are, but relaborate em, it s fine ✌🏼
That's how it was supposed to be intended
But people had other plans
@@eri9986 unfortunately yes, people are lazy and greedy most of the times😩
@@Hadri_ARTdo you want them to suffer?
@@captaindragonyt8439 mmm no...(👀🤥)
This is what I miss in the art community and especially this channel: just sitting down with a little bit of process and character design. This is the kinda content that inspired me to start drawing myself and I'd love to see more artists return to this instead of challenges and such. Love the piece James!
I really like the vibe of these newer videos! They feel more personal and matured. Really enjoying the commentary
The white and gold one reminds me of godspeed from The Flash
the one you pointed out at 2:01 is totally a mix of Spiderman and the white Power Ranger. That style predates the Marvel movies by like 25 years!
I believe as AI art becomes more commonplace and easy for average people to create this in itself will hopefully create a boom for traditional artists. As I feel that traditional art over the past decade or so has lost value, AI art will bring that value back when people realize that the emotion and soulfulness of human created art is just so much more valuable on multiple levels.
I just feel that artists don’t get much attention for their dedicated hard work. You can get this man to create phenomenal art which some people would want to copy and redraw and get no views and likes and attention whereas someone just types a few words and everyone will like it. Really love your work
@KrimsonKatastrophe I hope so
He’s doing just fine. Haha
It is such a pleasure to watch a comic artist work! Loved the Gak. Loved the love. Even if we get to a point where you couldn’t tell just from looking which picture had the human love put into it, we will still prefer the human work because we know the love went into it. If that makes sense
Art is a gift beyond those limited electrical power boxes available to the average...hence why art collectors appreciates the craft by those with rare gifted skills.
I’ve been drawing for five years and I’ve been trying my hardest to improve and have my art stand out from others. When I see the AI make those images it discourages the heck out of me and destroys my motivation. It is amazing to see someone with experience take on against ai.
LOLLL@cytaldeeartist
come on man. AI is a tool to be used. Next time you want to draw to something, let AI do it first, and compare it with your vision, and then improvise to make your work better.
At first glance, AI looks better, but when a specific task is asked of a person and an AI, AI will always fall behind as it is meant to do an objective job. It can't be subjective as humans can be.
ai is like drinking a can of coke zero and have a bitter after taste or uncanny image in my head
So... What you're feeling is the same as some traditionalists felt when digital art started getting big. People dedicated decades learning how shade and make color transitions with ink and all that and then all of a sudden people were using apps with thousands of brushes and layers and selections and all sorts of "cheats". Lots of artists resisted changing to digital for kind of a long time.
I think AI is not going anywhere and artists are gonna have to find a way to work with/around it. I'm guessing the market for illustration and concept art will keep getting hit harder though.
@cytaldeeartistyes don't be discouraged the AI is using and going off of what's already been done and you can do the same and better
I think its best to draw what you like and what you imagin in your head because it makes it more special knowing how hard you worked on something with your own hands and mind instead of using an AI to draw something. Drawing things on your own is hard and sometimes a struggle but in the same time it makes that pf what you are drawing the perfect thing, knowing how better you can do and what kind of ideas you can add into a drawing.
All that Gak on Cybernetic spidey is amazing! 🔥🔥
I appreciate your approach to this controversial topic. There is understandable passion and many conflicting perspectives, so it is great to hear your thoughts laid out with care and compassion. And the final piece is just phenomenal! Thank you!
I’ve said it plenty of times… THIS is why true artists won’t be replaced by ai. Enjoying and appreciating the process and love put into man-made artwork is within us as humans. It’s therapeutic.
The sad truth is, they already are.....Artists say companies are already outsourcing entry-level work to generative AI. Artist will always have a place in the field but the jobs getting even more limited which is the problem.
Of course they aren't.
It was a dumbass, paranoid idea to begin with.
*REAL* artists will use AI art more and more as one of their many tools.
Luddite crybabies will keep making up spooky stories about it.
@@Kanoog
Not all artists say that bullshit, though.
Only the ones who are afraid for no reason.
And, needless to say, they're pulling it out of their asses.
I'm a drawing and 3d hobbyist (not professional yet) but doing this as a hobby, I definitely agree with you, James. I 100% prefer art done by an artist, rather than something pure AI-generated. I prefer the artist every day.
That being said, I think just like when 3d art was a new thing, that AI-generated stuff will play a part in the future of artwork. It will change and evolve and become something artists will eventually incorporate into their workflow. Definitely NOT in its current form of "oh just type some words and I get industry-level art spit out", but it will definitely change in the future and change to be incorporated into an artist's workflow. We'll have to wait for a couple of years for that to change, though.... :P
James, if you ever build/create that Cybernetic Spider-Man suit in real life, I will happily model it for you.
In my opinion, Art AI Generators enable people who are creative, but cannot draw with the ability to achieve what they have wanted to be able to do potentially their whole life.
When you talked of the love you have when you are creating and drawing, could that not be the same emotion realised by the non-artist as the images they can see in their mind start to take shape based on the prompts they enter into the generator?
Yep, this. I think the problem is people selling the art. I understand the technical aspect of it's created by a machine, thus no human input was needed and so it's not possible to "steal" an artists work via AI.
However, I do use it as enjoyment. I'm an artist but I can't draw. I do album covers and stuff that don't require that side of me but I am always thinking, always having ideas. And Midjourney lets me realize those ideas in ways I could never do on my own. But I don't claim the work to be mine and I don't sell it.
@@_gr1nchh Pretty sure you are saying exactly what was said by every Ford employee when they were replacement with what is now considered a standard automotive manufacturing line.
I don't agree with AI, as it will impact far more jobs than just the art industry, but unfortunately, money drives the world and if it reduces cost, then businesses will use it and drop their number of employees. :(
@@Grimasaurus Human input isn't needed on automotive line because there's no creativity needed. There's no thought process. It's just diagrams and numbers, can all be pre-programmed. You can't pre-program AI to make something exact.
As a graphic designer, I feel zero threat from AI, personally.
I definitely think it's bad that ai might be replacing artists, actors, and a lot of other really talented people! It's pretty impressive, but it has flaws. When your in the process of creating something, and you want to make sure it comes out perfect, It's better you make it yourself than to rely on a computer to do it all for you in a matter of minutes.
This was a really cool idea for a video and drawing! I'm excited to see more of this! :D
i agree
Honestly, I feel like AI could be a really helpful tool in a professionals tool box. AI is amazing for concept art. You can try a 100 different designs with AI in the time it would take you to do a handful of sketches and they would be more detailed than a sketch as well as being colored. In theory, it could save you alot of time when it comes to finding the right design and the right color combination that you can then use fleshing out your idea.
But I don't think that AI in its current form could replace an artist. For one, it's not smart enough. Look at the spider on the chest for example. It knows spiderman has a symbol on his chest, so it tries to recreate it. But it doesn't know it's supposed to be a spider and it doesn't always have the same amount of legs, it just knows lines are supposed to meet up there to form a symbol. You may also see too many fingers, toes or teeth on people for that reason because it knows people have those things in pictures, but it doesn't know what those things are.
Ai is good for "good enough" pictures but professionals are needed to perfect things and will be needed for some time.
@@arthand7672 your right.
@@arthand7672 I use to use it for concept art but not anymore. If you develop your imagination and technical skills (composition, coloring, etc.) that's more powerful than Ai imho, which generates more generic art.
I agree with what you said, i am a self artist, the love and time it takes to make something popup and lively cannot be rendered by A.I. in minutes, plus as a technical guy A.I. can never create anything of its own, it always will need data...so artist will always reign supreme when it comes to independent thinking , creativity and ingenuity, human minds are way so much more complex than any A.I can comprehend, only advantage machines have, is that they don't get exhausted or tired!!
My #1 gripe is that you had his left hand palm down aiming downward for his webbing. Spider-man rarely goes palm downward, and usually only does so with the symbiote.
Once upon a time, someone invented the photograph. Portrait artists were probably worried about being put out by this new instant picture technology, but look how things actually turned out. AI won't replace us, it will only make us more valuable.
I agree, because ulitmately the real world is what makes a difference for us. People have always used things for reference, sculptures, architecture, all came from an idea that was based off of something else. AI Will just help us create more.
It will make getting jobs for concept artist even harder, that is the issue. It is highly unlikely that it will ever completely replace human artists, it's just going to make those jobs way, WAY harder to get now compared to before and it was already a pain in the ass prior to AI.
There's a lot of people with kool ideas who don't have the talent to make what they see in their heads. A.I. gives those people a chance to see their ideas just like a real artist. Real artist get to see something outside of the typical creative tropes and rules that none artists don't know are taboo. Collectively it's just a great way to appreciate ideas overall.
Having a artist draw it has a special personal bond because you got to see it being created
A.i is a tool not a weapon, it could be used to create ref images, ver of previous illustrations, improve your art by trying to be as good as what the A.i gives you,.... it can be a huge help but unfortunately people use it to harm, steal & more with a lot of people rightfully angry about it but they give a baseline of arguments similar to what was used when digital art started to pop up. There is still a lot to work on amongst ourselves but if we can make it it could be awesome to see what young artist would be able to do in this new environment.
While I see AI as a tool for someone who may feel they are lacking in art and maybe have a hard time designing a character, as in they have a description but can't seem to put it together. And then you have people who have an awesome idea but don't or feel they don't have the art skills to pull it off.
But for the artist, who works so hard to accomplish those skills to make it into beautiful art, I agree with you. The value in the hours of work and polishing off the piece they work on it quite higher.
I feel AI should really be used as a way to brainstorm your ideas, kinda like sculpting until you have the right concept of what you are trying to create... BUT also be used for those who have an awesome idea and need an outlet to bring it into creation, but little to no art skills.
That was the intention tho
@@Mjsports3730 not everyone may see or use it like that. I was only stating the way I see it. 😉
This format suits your content, which is amazing btw. Keep up the fantastic work.
You chose a great topic. It's also skin deep and a mile wide. Too many people have opinions on why it's bad without confessing what it's doing wrong. Generative AI models trained on human art cant legally use private IP without risking being sued. Businesses and clients get to choose what products they buy, so AI art as an option is not bad even if the competition costs artists some prospective clients. New encryption software is successfully hiding art from web-scraping AI, so there is not only law but proactive measures against theft. The AI itself is usually a python program that's been run hundreds of times over a dataset. If the programmer has rights to the dataset and makes a tool that provides people with arguably "better" products they prefer over traditional art commissioning, then that's just business and I feel sorry for the vocal artists that aren't used to competing with technology. It comes for every industry, and it's progress, not a malicious electronic plagiarist. When you understand the tool and don't fear competition, there's no threat to you. Just stay wise, research how to protect your art, and provide something competitive. Now, do you choose to adapt in the face of adversity? Will you outshine your competition? AI doesn't make etsy shops [yet], but it can be trained on a single artist's portfolio to generate new artwork for them, in their style, to sell on an etsy shop. Use the tool. Adapt, don't bicker. This debate is dumb.
100 percent agree that creative art from a living being is better. There is sole and style from an artist that is reflected from a lifetime.
Artists fine tune every aspect and create that individuality, but like a collage/sampling work maybe it is using it only as an example, or the smallest fragment of an existing piece. it is in my mind comparable to some degree in this AI art issue. I'm not sure that I would ever say it is a one to one comparison of something like an art director when someone inputs another word, direction, another art sample/artist for directing the AI. Even something like soup can prints, or a signed upside-down urinal is minimally appealing for some intellectually, aesthetically, or even emotionally.
You might think less of a painting after someone told you that they found out it was a copy, although still done by another person. however, what if it was a print that was varnished over? maybe even a print, painted over with some slight differences. We have issues with determining what is acceptable at least in terms of credit when someone uses any extent of someone's work.
To some extent these AI pieces could be viewed as a collaboration/collage, just as someone in digital art might take/use photos and overlap them while adding filters and other elements... that grey space just got even broader.... and grey-er?
I think your absolutely right about the love. You can totally feel it when the passion isnt there whether its art or a movie or whatever. AI art has this feel thats reminiscent of when art is too focus tested or has to much corporate ick on it. Theres just something hard to describe about that feels wrong.
Whoa bro!!!! You’re an amazing talent!!!! I would really cherish any art you did over an AI any day…..and that goes for any artist but you are spectacular…..I also do comic art but my stuff looks like the 1970’s 1980’s comics…..I could never do what you did here….bravo man, I absolutely love your cybernetic design!!!
I do so.e ai art, but I love to see the creative process in action, and really enjoyed watching you talk through the creation of your cyber-Spider Man
You're one of the first artists open minded with AIs that I see... I'm struggling in the between... while I can easily see my ideas come to life with AI, there's nothing like drawing it by hand and thinking about every detail...
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can you draw carnage + ghost rider + ultron + General Zod
Which upholds Sentimental Value, "printed images" or "original paintings" in auctioning bids? Food for thought against opportunists using Plagarism.
Artificial intelligence can be an easier way to draw and brings out the detail all with a few words but it defeats the purpose for all artist both traditional and digital.
This is actually a cool and really helpful thing to do. Ai tends to make things very detailed so it helps in learning how to render high quality but also because its Ai if you try to outline something you will notice that there's random lines leading to nothing and you have to figure out yourself what to do in certain areas.🥰
Amazing art and great video!! Really love the idea of an artist going up against ai..I think yours definitely won!! Awesome job, super inspiring!!
2:23 Could the AI do this on its own..."
Can a human do any work of art "on their own"? Can any one human being create the entire concept of drawn/painted works from scratch with no assistance, no inspiration?
No tracing, no references, no classes, not even a passing glance at other works of art to see how someone else did it?
Didn't think so. That is precisely why the "AI is theft" argument doesn't hold water. People are trying to apply a double standard by saying humans can reference other works without permission but its somehow different when a semi-automated program does it.
This cyborg Spider-Man is SOOOOO COOOOOL! Art is really all about the BEST EFFORTS put into it. GREAT WORK James #TheBoxOfficeArtist! 🙌👍✍💯🔥🔥🔥
Ai can help writers starting out who maybe can’t afford an artist. Art using art. But for a person to use it as a fast lane, and sell it as art is wrong. I have already seen it at comic cons.
I been doing this too. Taking A.I. art and drawing it traditionally. As much as I don't like the idea of A.I. art I do see it in the future as a tool. I just don't like the lack of effort,
Your work is amazing! I like drawing robots and can do pretty good with the gestures. The detail is a bit hard because my mental library for that type of work is not all there yet. It would be great if you had a video on how to learn to draw basic joints and details from imagination (after lots of practice of course). Thanks and please keep sharing your inspiring work!
The current AI image generators works by copying and integrating images originally created by drawing artist, 3d artist, photographers etc. Whatever the results this fact should always be acknowledged and a better question than 'I wonder what prompt was used' when an exceptional image caught your interest should be 'I wonder what the images sources were?'
Love your drawing, by the way...
I agree human created art is more coveted than prompted art no doubt. Because of these generators not only have I appreciated art more I am studying and learning about art and now making part of my goals is to draw and create my own artworks from scratch and I don't think I am the only case in which this is true.
Makes me think of the armoured Spider-Man from the 1998 Animated Spider-Man series, but also see alot of Iron-man 3 inspiration as well
Ah, so I'm not the only one who does this huh? It is really helpful to get inspired (or laugh with the mistakes It makes) With generative images. Of course, I Draw everything from scratch. Its not like the "Only Add water and serve" people tends to do.
I think ai generates the overall look of the image while an artist draws every detail manually. That's why if you zoom in and ai image you will often see smoothing and other weird artifacts.
Awesome. That’s how you get back at AI art. As a comic artist/animator, I don’t use it in my works, but I’m also not totally against it. I’ve used it for concept ideas, HDRI’s, but of always draw and paint the concepts by hand. It beats going on pinterest for hours looking for the right ninja suit or tactical armor. Who knows where it goes in the future but nothing can take away the enjoyment of drawing and coloring by hand.
Another thing that machines won't be able to do anytime soon is teach how to draw. I think that drawing in each style is unique and different, and is accompanied by experiences, personal experiences that machines will never have. I heard that the pokemon creator liked insects, for example. I identify with this for example and it is inspiring.
That one uncensored comment that says frozen balls😂
Great idea!
Everytime I am browsing through Pinterest, there's always AI arts of my favorite characters. At the first glampse, they looked cool somewhat very outstanding. But atfterwards, it just gets tiring, a repetative style over and over again. The look might be colorful and fansy, but just like you said James, there is a lack of Heart and Soul to it, the time and love that has been put into. In the history of art, there are such a deep connections to life itself. There was no computer, there was no technology to support anything. Life, is where the ideas, inspirations come from, and thrrough art, there are flaws to it, and that is totally FINE, because that''s the beauty in it. Nothing is flawless, nothing is perfect, and that is what makes art perfect, Perfect Imperfection. Different artists, different styles, makes life colorful, AI can nevver ever replace that.
That's incredible and so clean. I loved it.
Ai is a really bad thing at the moment, a big theft. Hate that people on socials are earning Money through it, stealing from other artists
Love this idea! Would like to see more
People fear AI too much without thinking of the person who used it.
Oh how the turntables turn….😂😂😂
I'm not a free hand artist or anything like that i'm a vector artist but i am Glad I ran into your video I will Add some of these techniques to my vector art
Dang, that looks so cool! Your skill is amazing!
It's funny of you to say you "stole" from the AI art, it looked like you just used it as reference. 😄
I've been trying to learn digital art for lie 4 years now, and the AI art is a bit disheartening. Although recently I started using my original skillset of photoshopping pictures to start fixing AI images. I think that's more of actually stealing AI art. 😅 Although I've only got a few videos up. They may be nsfw, lust a heads up.
But I totally agree that the process of creation affects the value of the art. I'm not saying all AI art is worthless, because I also feel that the worth of items is very individualized. So yeah, I don't appreciate how complicated AI art has made the subject to be.
Machines taking over this area was surprising. This phenomenon was like a surprise impact from a tsunami, when you don't even know what a tsunami is. I want someone to correct me if I'm wrong. Machines still can't copy vibes, like ghibli, marvel, dc, disney. These vibes, patterns, could be the watermark in the future.
From one James to another, I agree sir.
I prefer art over AI any day of the week.
Amazing art!!! 👍 Keep up the excellent work bro! --- I think the only way to compete with AIGA (AI-Generated Art) is by creating original (Physical) artwork and selling it as "original artwork from a human artist." I don't think we artists can compete with the speed and details AI can generate, but one thing AI cannot do is create original physical artwork from a human being. I understand the human artist's market will get smaller and smaller as AI becomes extremely better every few months, but we artists shouldn't raise the white flag, yet. We have 6 years to establish our brand...unfortunately, by 2030 human artists making art manually will become obsolete. Most of us artists will become Prompt-Artists.
Great video, James! Keep this up.
We cannot beat Ai with "speed" and algorithm-based artificial images, but We offer Independent imaginations of umlimited creativity of Innovations; Styles; Originalities without relying on human contributions feeding "The Machine" with licensable copyrighted contents.
I think purple shouldn't look at AI as some tool that will remove artist. Instead, it's going to replace artist who themselves aren't using AI.
Kinda like how photoshop and similar tools changed the meta.
I liked very much that you didn't come off as immediately negative on AI. That was refreshing. I completely understand how it makes artists feel. I understand their concerns about how it learned to draw too, but it is fairly analogous to how humans learn, just a lot less efficient in some ways (we have the advantage of learning many of the concepts from our embodiment in the physical reality it's trying to portray without ever living as a human, in addition to having a superior architecture in some key ways).
Value the artist. 👍
Great work ❤
I have a lot of opinions on this one, First of all the fear surrounding AI art is the same as when photoshop was invented, or 3d software, or digital audio, digital cinema, the list goes on. New things are scary, but thus far we have not seen the end of Traditional painting, 2d animation, model building etc. They took a hit, but have since bounced back. Same goes for this new AI tool. This video is the most basic proof of how a tool can help an artist. However, Midjourney is a paid algorithm and more of a fun toy, to call the output your art is disingenuous. The open source models afford a massive amount of control, and can be adopted even now to an artists process to help speed their workflow, teach them about their own bad habits and give them ideas. A general workflow for an artist that is widely used is Thumbnail to larger layout which is mostly the basic forms, then to a finished artwork. Consider an artist training a model on his own layout and finished style. You could feed it a thumbnail and have it spit out the layouts for you. Do a few quick fixes and print it out blueline for your finished pencils, or underpainting etc. Also if you train it on your art and look at the results you will probably see patters of your own bad habits or repeated shape language, that you wouldn't normally see and can fix. This is just the start. Eventually it will be like having a great assistant who can teach you things.
I think it's telling that AI pulls from images artists have created to create a render. It would have no concept of Spider-Man without all of the artwork it pulls from. It'd have no concept of gears or cyborgs, or anything without the images human artists have created.
Amazing work james fantastic. ten hours well worth it. much better then a.i. takes talent away from individual.
I've hired artist in the past, and what I've found out is the best and worst thing about hiring an artist.. is the artist. AI is nice and all, but it's a long way from a great artist, but also it definitely is better than a bad one!
I think most artist use AI for reference now. You cant put the gennie back in the bottle so you have to embrace it.
its like the difference of an instant coffee and carefully selected coffee bean and brewed to perfection coffee...
You are unique brother that’s why I watch I hope to make drawings like you one day for sure !
Human artists all day, James.
Well done, sir 🤙
To be honest it is badass as always but I think it would have looked better if the hand positions were 11:06 flipped, meaning having the twap hand and the fist swap. Twap hand upside down.
This. THIS is what AI art was made for: an extension of the creative process, turning your ideas into concrete visual concepts to go off of and reference for your final product. You are amazing James!
I'm glad to see artists who are starting using AI to their own advantage.
Remember folks: You won't be replaced by an AI, you will be replaced by someone USING an AI.
To me Ai vs Human is like when a dog can use the toilet, anyone can use a toilet but when a dog uses the toilet....now that's special.
A.I. is just another tool in the visual artist toolset!. This is the way to use it!. 👍🏾💯🎯
Please color this one! Your art far surpasses anything done by AI, because of the human element. The computer is not creating. It's generating from a creative source. The artist!
Great art and great video brother❤
You rocked it
I Agree with U joy of drawing, spend that time more addictive then drugs & alcohol cos this feeling is Love to art & satisfaction of results. I like Your concept, make Me inspired to again make some scratches on the paper. Keep doin' Ya Work Man, it is worth it & Awesome
The A.I art is cool,but I have to agree, the art produced by the artist is preferred, just because of the time spent and the heart that's put into the creation
Love it !!!!!!
BUT GODDAMN show the finish render WAaaaaaAY longer at the end !!!!
We can't even appreciate it !! And it deserve it clearly.
I'm frustrated damn 😂
As somewhat of an artist myself, I see much more emotion and depth in man made art as compared to AI art
👇 if you agree
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that white gold spidey looks like a white power rangers to me
I love how you said that AI needs human references to make stuff look cool, but there would be no way on earth that AI could create stuff that epic on its own. We have a soul and the incessant desire to create, and you never know when a prodigy comes out of nowhere and blows everybody's mind away, but if you were to make an AI program to be creative from scratch, with no reference, all it would know is nothingness, so it would produce nothingness.
I think AI is here to stay, but it will not replace the human element. If we view art as a pyramid, the human made art will always be the capstone. Yes the bulk of the pyramid may become ai generated, but the premium art will always be human drawn stuff. People will pay big bucks for the premium art.
Is that why they named that Nickelodeon slime Gak?lol
It’s so wonderful that anyone of any skill now can create such amazing images. ❤️❤️❤️
looks awesome. Using ideas generated by AI gives us different ideas we didn't think about.
Love your videos always relaxes me and inspires me to draw again
Awesome video bro!!
the only thing i don't like about alot of this AI seems to forget that Spider-Man is a little guy, not some bulky huge goliath