OVERRATED? 2011 Update Mike Trout Rookie-Our Thoughts
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ม.ค. 2024
- The 2011 Topps Update Mike Trout rookie card is the most iconic modern dat baseball card. It is known by all collectors regardless of sport that they collect, and at times even reaches audiences that do not collect. In this episode, the Spitballin' team dives into this particular card to share our thoughts on if this card should or should not be iconic.
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Sorry for the missed edit around the 3 minute mark. It is usually up to Phil to catch our errors but he was not on this episode. Thanks for watching!
ALSO, CORRECTION - it’s the COGNAC Diamond parallels they are only available in 2011 Topps Update boxes.
But feel free to bash Chris in the comments anyway!
I’m going to bash you Scot 😉 yes Scot is supposed to be spelled with 4 letters in this instance
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@@bensweetra4871 😂😂😂😂
Lovin the attention TSC is getting on this channel...but i agree with the group sentiment...the TSCchrome series is ♾️ better
@@user-dv6dg5gu6d Chris here - yeah we NEED that set to come out!!
Just because it’s not a super-expensive card, doesn’t mean it still can’t be iconic. It’s comparable to the 1989 UD Griffey, 1989 Hoops David Robinson and 1989 Score Barry Sanders. Those cards came out at the height of the junk wax era, but anyone who collected during that era knows they were THE cards of that era to get. I think the 2011 Topps Update Trout card is the last great Base card just as the 1980 Topps Rickey Henderson was the last great standalone rookie card before Fleer and Donruss came out in 1981. I own a Trout PSA 9 and it doesn’t bother me that it probably won’t appreciate because of the pop count. Iconic is iconic. If pop count discounted a card from being iconic, then nobody would care about the 89 UD Griffey.
I think you nailed it here. It IS an iconic card and the comparison to Griffey is on point.
We just have to wait for the price on the Trout card to settle.
But I like the idea that the Trout rookie is the last great Topps base card. Good line!
Reminds me of the tiger woods upper deck 2001 rookie with so many psa 10’s, or even kobe flagship rookie base 138, I think they all will do great over time because of their popularity. Popularity creates scarcity over time. Just more volatile/takes longer than a low edition pop account because more can be floored with a higher pop count obviously. Great takes love the content would love to see more about rookie base flagship cards! Just got a PSA 10 Kobe 138 flagship rookie for only $700!! Sold for over $10k haha if ya look at the chart history all time, looks like we are at the bottom! 2025 year of collectibles🚀
By far my fav show to watch on TH-cam. I like when you guys checked/talked about other collectors instagrams. Would be cool if you designated a few minutes at the end or while talking about certain cards/releases.
Thanks much for watching -- and the suggestion. We are all very active on IG, so would love to shout-out some folks/accounts.
Thanks for the reminder - we will definitely get back to doing the IG shout outs.
Another great show guys! I’m loving Stadium Club. Picked up a Compact box, hit a Volpe Purple Foil Chrome, Bryce Harper Triumvirate Orange, Esteury Ruiz Photographers Proof and some good base rookies. Second Compact was a dud, but I’ll take 1 for 2. Saw Stryker break a box topper Austin Riley auto yesterday, so they exist!
Nice pulls! And I bet that Riley auto looks spectacular, I'll have to hunt down that video. Thanks for commenting!
Chris here - that Riley box topper got my heart racing!! Still waiting for the first base card auto to surface…
Box topper would be cool - I’d be tempted to get Ron Washington to sign it too!
@@SpitballinCards Haha, glad you were able to track down that clip!
I would consider the Trout 2011 Flagship RC as THE iconic card of the modern era for sure.
Agreed. It’s just strange to not own what might be the best base card of the 2000’s.
But it’s synonymous with Mike Trout at this point. The most recognizable card of the century!
The stadium club boxes I opened had a major QC issues. I opened a few blasters and a compact box. I don’t think a single card would gem up, bc of chipping or corner issues
Even injuries, Mike Trout has made his mark in the sport & hobby.
2011 update is iconic. As a long term collector I look for those RC's that are limited. Especially now while his Market Value appears to go down is a great time to buy in my opinion.
I just seen today on Fanatics Collect (formerly PWCC) weekly auctiion that ends Sunday Trout's 2011 Bowman's Best Rookie Refractor #d /99 #BBP9 BGS 9.5 GEM MINT only at $52 so far. The base is only worth 100 or 2, but historically the Refractor/99 over $1k. Doesn't come up often. There are not many #d Trout Rookies unlike the current ultra modern RCs.
@@kellyschauer1175 Chris here - the problem with that 2011 Bowmans Best trout is it doesnt have the RC logo. So it’s not technically a rookie card.
PSA even labels it “prospects” on the slab. It’s kind of in that no man’s land of after the Bowman chrome first and before the RC.
Not a card I’d target personally.
Just binged every single episode in like 3 days (ik I’m an extreme nerd). Holy crap I love this!
Haha! Thanks for watching all the episodes! Now that you're through, come check out the backlog of our Blabbin' 'Bout Slabbin' channel! 🤣
Chris here - welcome, fellow card nerd! Embrace the reality hahaha
Thanks for watching!
Bro if you're gonna have TPott on your podcast, you gotta have him hook you up with a Market Movers subscription. Every time you threw card ladder up on the screen I could feel for the guy. LOL.
For me, the Trout is 100% iconic and was as you said one of the cards that drew me back into the hobby. Got an SGC 9 in March23 when they were going around $700, traded out of a Julio auto I was into $350 that graded high. Crossed to PSA because long term wanted in their slab and it came back a 10! Sounds like I’m doing well being into the Trout around $400,
Very nice!
Yup
Even though I'm a Blue Jays fan, Mike Trout is still my favourite player. He's built like a machine, however, he's also made of glass because everything breaks so easy. It's frustrating for fans that travel to Toronto, Ontario and see that he's day to day. We hope he's in the lineup during a 3-day weekend series, he's never playing.....
It’s been every baseball fan’s frustration over the last 5 years. We all just want to watch him play!
Nice job by Toronto signing Justin Turner. Great guy for that clubhouse, and he can still hit!
He's never playing because he played 110% from 2012-2019. He's Mantle from 1965, enjoy him while you can.
@@ChrisP-in8qr I sincerely
Hope your wrong, but I’m afraid you might be right.
Great discussion as always 🤙🤙
Thanks for watching!
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This group dynamic is great - Feels like an evening conversation. Mannn I need some friends in the hobby like this. Lone Wolf (Guess I should say F0X) here in South, TX - Keep it up guys
😂😂 thanks for watching and commenting!
Any card shows around you?
🤣 Yesss, but they just take my money 🤣 I mean I guess there could be one of you just there for the $$$$. I mean I hear Jeff & Chris have the same amount of letters in their names....🤣🤣🤣🤣 COME ON MAN
Best moment of the video is at the 39:40 mark, learn something new with every video
I think Diamond Anniversary parallels were in all 3 series of 2011 Topps. It was the Cognac that was only in Update
Correct! I was wrong about that. I pinned a comment correction. But thank you!
One of the best parallels topps has ever made!
I want to rip products, but I can't afford boxes & singles. It was hard adjusting to only buying singles, but now it feels like maturing 😆
I hear that! It's not always as much fun, but it sure is a better use of money. 😂
In my opinion, The Trout RC is THE card to get (hobby influenced) but let's not forget some other names that have cards which are in deserving of the title "Iconic". some names that come to mind are Aaron Judge, Bryce Harper, I mean, Trout is no doubt a great player and has a very notable resume but let's not forget the fact that the aforementioned players can be included into the discussion of Iconic.
Has Scott seen the 2023 Stadium Club Larry Walker card yet? It’s probably the most iconic moment in Walker’s career with the Rockies. I’m hoping we finally get a Helton card soon with his arms in the air after clinching the NLCS!
Chris here - the Walker image is fantastic.
2 questions: are there on card autos?
Is there a purple refractor???
@@SpitballinCards I’ve been hunting on eBay for the purple for a while now. No sighting yet!
@@Colorajoe I took a look at the checklist and I don’t see a Walker chrome. Sorry!!
Trout card is iconic. I enjoyed breaking stadium club but i definitely lost money which reinforces why i don't buy boxes. Great job gentlement.
Chris here - it’s hard to rip any boxes and make money these days. But at least Stadium Club gives us great looking cards with cool images.
Thanks for watching! Yeah, buying boxes is definitely something to do for fun -- not to make your money back these days. And that's harder and harder to do (have fun!) when you're spending hundred of dollars on a box. At least Stadium Club isn't getting that crazy price-wise. Yet.
I'm not a braves fan but I collect Acuna and Freeman and Albies b/c I am a baseball card collector ....I follow players in every uniform. You dont have to be a Yankees fan to collect Judge or Cole or Volpe..... Right?
Definitely. And I do love those baseball cards that highlight big moments, even if they AREN'T players I collect. Like the Mariano Rivera card of him walking off for the last time, or the Varitek/Foulke final out of the World Series card. And I imagine that people that are fans of those teams would REALLY love them.
Chris here - I should probably buy a Judge card at some point…
But I love collecting Devers, Yordan Alvarez, and Ohtani and sadly I know they’ll never be Braves.
My favorite podcast to watch, thoroughly enjoy the content. My stadium club hobby box was underwhelming as expected in regards to the autos: Bo Naylor & Jonah Bride. Didn’t realize beam team was more limited, pulled a Jeter, and also a Stanton 1st Day Issue
Nice job on the Jeter pull! Thanks for watching the show!
Sorry you also got stuck with Jonah Bride.
My only a 680+ overall pick in his mid 20’s, but his auto - come on!! Put in some effort!!
What was your favorite card photo?
Make the grading scale tougher, and then 10s will hold their value a lot better without screwing over regular collectors.
I know when I got back in the hobby in 2019 the Trout RC was 800 for a PSA 10 is it really possible that the card could drop below 1000.
Chris here - a lot will depend on his performance, his health, and I hate to say it but how good the angels are.
If he’s toiling away on a last place team and spending 30+ games in the IL every year, it will definitely keep falling.
I bought 3 boxes and was fortunate enough to get a Acuna black foil redemption and Alex Call rainbow foil auto in one box and another #’d to 5 Going Yard Austin Riley auto. The others were your standard rookies. Also got a Yoshida Hidden Gem which is pretty cool. This was my first time buying hobby and I’ve been anticipating this for months. Bought another box to see if my luck continues but just ripping for fun now. Thank you guys for your thoughts on this years release! Love to listen to you guys.
Holy cow! That is some great luck - nice pulls! And thanks for watching
Great takes as always. I really enjoy the content. Good job
Thanks for watching!
Great video as always guys! Quick question, 6,200 PSA 10 out of approximately 60,000-70,000 print run, still very rare. As there are definitely more than 6,200 serious collectors chasing this card at any one time. Not to mention the flippers. So in my opinion I believe this card is now grossly undervalued especially if Trout remains healthy for any amount of time in the future and/or he eventually gets traded to a contender. Can you imagine Trout in the post season?
Sorry, here is my question…How does your view of this card change for a BGS 10 Pristine (240 total ish) copies and a BGS Pristine Black Label (27 total copies)? Does it then become Iconic? SuperGrail! Casket Card? Long term hold till Moon? Modern day Mantle Rookie? Just wondering. Thanks!
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Chris here - it’s 6,000 PSA 10’s, not 26,000.
Honestly those other grades don’t really change the equation for me. That’s just a personal opinion.
Btw, “casket card” is a term I now LOVE
Thanks for the response Chris. I love your takes as well as the other guys too. Sorry for the typo. I did definitely hear you state 6,200. Keep up the great work!
@@ThatsWhatSheSaidSportsCards just me but I didn’t chase the griffey rookie in a PSA 10 either. I have 3 raw copies now and they’re in binder.
Because of the time ti came out, that iconic rookie card is more special to me personally.
Some day I’ll pick up a trout, but the grade will not be a big factor.
Definitely iconic, great points made about print run being much smaller relative to this era of ultra modern cards, and he doesn’t have many options out there. I had this card too, got out of it at 3K. Would love to own again, but needs to come under $500 given pop count and it feels his last year that was solid was…. 2019!
Mike Trout is not over rated ....He was over shadowed by Ohtan!! I really want 2 see him in a full season !!
I want to see him play 145+ games again so so bad.
Honestly, I’d love to see him get out of Anaheim, but I don’t know if that’ll ever happen.
@@SpitballinCards Agree...Ya know I will buy 1-2 Rookies when they go down ....I get they already are and I have seen them at card shows in the 3-4 hun range ....I also want to elaborate how the WBC strike out when Trout went down to Ohtani had an effect on his legacy !! I still believe MT will bounce back ! I actually would love to see him on the Yankees !! I just think that would fast track him 2 becoming more appreciated again!! I really hope he can have a couple healthy seasons also !! Thanks for reply and I appreciate your show and knowledge !! Thank you for sharing your time !! Stay blessed !!
I think if a card is debated about being ICONIC....then ...
....ITS PROBABLY ICONIC ...people think there can only be a handful of ICONIC cards...when there can be hundreds..basically all GREAT PLAYERS ..from babe ruth back then to shohei ohtani now will have an ICONIC CARD..
These guys are the fkn best.
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my 7 yr old nephew pulled the Austin Riley superfractor auto from his hobby box
WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT
That’s amazing.
Chris here - I’m struggling to breathe knowing it’s out there.
Congratulate him for me!!
bro i need that. and billy butler
@@hitmanskid-td4pg 😂😂😂
Awesome! Congrats to the little guy!
Definitely iconic for sure
@@kellyschauer1175 iconic but sadly dropping in value
Do you remember diamond embedded 1/1 from 2011. Did they make those for update also? So is there a possible Mike Tout diamond embedded Mike Trout?
Great talk... question... why the major discrepancy in price between this and 2012 Harper. Yes, I know he has a TC, but the gold sparkle Harper is like POPP 110 and 10% of the same version of Trout. Harper is close to flipping Trout IMO. Would love to hear your thoughts on Harper vs Trout.
For Harper, he has a convoluted paper flagship hierarchy where the 661A SP is on top, and the second tier would be the 661B and C cards where he’s Screaming and Batting w/ Blue Helmet and the US183 card from Update. The other stuff from that year would be Tier 3 IMO.
Da boys right here - becoming such a reliable podcast, as deserved!
Appreciate that - thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching!!
Shame that the Trout picture was him lining out to center field. It was his rookie debut vs Seattle though.
Chris here - is that right? Interesting. I didn’t know that.
Thanks for commenting!
@@SpitballinCards yep. Third at bat. th-cam.com/video/-o6wWJAKVSE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=JBQzFsPQHHbdvdsO
TPott choking on his rage as scottie skipped over him in the trout convo only to pull up a card ladder graph 😂
Seriously though interesting and entertaining topics and conversation as always.
Appreciate you watching and commenting!
Chris here - I think that was straight gin TPott was sipping all night
Seen Yordan Alvarez redemption auto
Will be an amazing card! 😍
You have?!?!
I’ll add “redemption” to my eBay search.
Thanks!
QC in new stadium club 2023 is a HuGE problem 😢
A huge problem in most sets I’ve opened
I didn’t see any issues, but like you, T-Pott says he did. So spotty at best, I guess. They still have some work to do on that front.
@@Blabbin_Bout_Slabbinyeah , back corners and Edges mostly, but consistently the same patterns of imperfections in most packs.
I also felt that the “base” cardboard stock was thinner / cheaper than 2022.
But I’ll give topps / fanatics credit in the sense the base versions of the cards are 🔥🔥🔥
Glad some of those truly beautiful cards (Mariano base ) are not SPs
😅 easier / less costly to enjoy putting on display
T pott drinking out of that long stem wine glass like a boss. Keep up the good work gentlemen!
T pott drinking out of the wine glass while Scott is sharing his screen with the Card Ladder graph. Awkward. Lol
Thanks for tuning in!
Haha - I loved watching him sip that glass!
@@bdingsdale 😂😂😂
Is the $500 price point y'all are talking about for a PSA 10?
Yes, a PSA 10 of the Trout which is hovering at about $1k now.
Anyone know how they choose the photo that's going to be on a player's rookie card?
No. Good question though!
Imagine being the guy buying at 6.4
Absolutely love the show.
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I hit a Bryce Lone Star Auto /5 Redemption fwiw. Not the dope base card.
Crazy to see how cheap it is now 😅 seems like no one wants to invest into an amazing player made out of glass
Chris here - every year he’s injured makes it harder and harder to remember how great he was.
U guys are great 👍🏽 great video
Thanks for watching and commenting!
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Its becoming iconic for the wrong reasons now. Trout has just been average for the past several years due to injury and its not likely that he's going to start playing 150 games a year. He's a HOF player but likely falls short of all time great. Its like he's Don Mattingly with a few mores of peak performance.
He'll always have his fans, are there 6,000 fans that will pay $1K for his PSA 10? I think folks will be just fine owning a PSA 8 or PSA 9.
Man, I hope we get to see a couple more full trout seasons. We NEED IT!!!
Not making a great case for Stadium Club. 😬
No?
Chris here - and I think it’s worth a rip. No hobby boxes of any product are likely to give you a good return in value, but at least stadium club cards are beautiful and fun to see, talk about over a couple beers.
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Yes! Proud dorks! 🍻
💯!! With a fifth dork taking the night off!
Over-priced. Not over-rated.
As career milestones start becoming out of reach (3000 hits, 600 then 500 HRs, 2000 RBI, 2000 runs) the price will drop.
Chris here - I don’t think Ohtani was or will ever be a guy with huge round career numbers. But what he’s been able
To do (and will Hopefully do again) is truly historic.
2 unanimous MVP’s and three seasons (so far) of baseball we’ve never seen before is incredible. Hopefully there are more to come.
Thanks for watching!
@@SpitballinCards thanks for the reply. My comment was in reference to Trout, but I agree re: Ohtani.
@@BaseballCFG oh my bad!! I should’ve realized that haha.
Re trout, yes you are dead on. Nobody in baseball needs a healthy season more than trout.