PART 2: Dobyns Sierra BFS Rod On The Water Review and Test
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- PART 2: Dobyns Sierra BFS Rod On The Water Review and Test. I cast a variety of lures with the Dobyns Sierra Ultra Finesse 700c. I test the rods reaction to crankbaits, structure sensitivity and other small but important features when selecting a rod.
This rod seems so far to be a great rod for pond hopping or any type of shore fishing. It is pretty versatile and should eliminate the need to carry multiple rods around when shore fishing. Not saying this rod couldn't be used on a boat pitching weightless plastics to docks but, shore fishing is what stands out to me so far.
A good reel to pair with this rod is the Shimano Curado BFS. At $189, it is a great price for a BFS reel from a reputable reel manufacturer and...is available to purchase in the USA. Companies like Roro Lure also make shallow spools for many existing "normal" baitcasting reels so, that may be an easy option to get into BFS. Many reels like the Daiwa SV reels are pretty capable of casting most bass plastics weightless without modification.
This is the first mainstream rod to be specifically made for BFS fishing. I hope that this rod create competition among other rod makers to start to bring quality USA market BFS rods to the market.
I got mine from Bait Finesse Empire:
baitfinesseempire.com/dobyns-...
Instagram: @baitfinesseempire ( baitfinesseempire), a new finesse fishing oriented web-based retailer opened the USA mid-April 2021. The shop carries a ton of Japanese Domestic Market (JDM) lures, lines and other gear. They also carry tackle from the USA and elsewhere. I am excite to partner with them to spread the love of BFS to the mainstream market. I will continue to share unbiased reviews of products with you all an encourage your feedback on products so Bait Finesse Empire can ensure they are stocking what the people want.
Dobyns Sierra Ultra Finesse Casting SA 700c Rod Specs:
7', 1/16-5/16 (1.5-8gr), 2-8lb line.
The Sierra Ultra Finesse or BFS casting rods are a new addition for 2021. This series was built strictly due to angler request and the growing popularity. Ultra-Light bass fishing has become very popular over the last few years and we have heard from our anglers to bring back an Ultra-Light Finesse casting rod designed to throw baits as light as 1/16oz (1.5g) and using 2-8lb line to target bass, panfish, crappie and trout..
These models will be in lengths of 7′ and 7’4″ and will be one-piece models. These rods are very small in diameter and super lightweight. Be on the lookout for these at a Dobyns dealer this fall.
FEATURES:
High modulus graphite blanks
Fuji Micro guides
Fuji reel seats
Kevlar wrapping
Balanced and splined blanks
Portugal cork - Split handle designs
Solid carbon tip sections
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Thanks a lot man!!!!
Love your content man. Great explanation and very informative. Just picked up this rod due to your videos. Gonna pair it with my Aldebaran bfs, tight lines! ✌️
Awesome! Thank you! I think you will love the rod
Had a chance to fish my Dobyns SA 700C this week over two days on a fairly large midwest river. I was throwing 1/8oz hair jigs for Smallmoutn Bass. As it turned out the first fish I hooked took me by complete surprise , a 32" Northern Pike that was over 10lbs. The second fish was a 28" inch Musky on the same 1/8oz hair jig. I was quite fortunate to land both fish and although not particularly suited for fish of that size and power, the Dobyns rod handled them amazingly well due to the impressive backbone. I didn't catch anything else that day, but two days later on the river I caught a half dozen Smallmouth from 2 lbs to just shy of 4 lbs. on the same hair jig. I am completely satisfied with the design and performance of the Dobyns Utra Finesse SA 700C. The tip loads an 1/8 oz jig beautifully and makes long accurate cast effortless. It's nice and light in hand and has as you mentioned , near perfect balance.
It will take several months, but I have it told Mr. Dobyns will also be adding a 6'9" model.
I also live up north and have those toothy critters. did the backbone still have some give under pressure from those fish surging by the boat?
@@HobieWanKenobi With 6lb test mono (Stren Magnathin) that was the prevailing limitation to how much pressure I could exert on the fish. I certainly had no ability to horse those big fish, but did feel like the line and rod had enough power to control the fish to a reasonable degree. The area of the river I caught them in had no cover or potential snags and was up to 10 foot deep so I could let the fish run . If there was cover or big boulders around I don't think I could have controlled the fish enough to stop them from surging into it and breaking me off. That said, the action of the rod and the transition into the backbone feels just right for handling both bigger and smaller fish. I fly fish quite a bit from 5wt trout rods up to 10wt saltwater rods so I am very familiar with a "mushy" feeling rod, the Dobyns is not. Frankly, the Dobyns rod impresses the heck out of me in how versatile it is and pairs so well with the Daiwa Alphas Air TW. Seems pretty ideal for the finesse baits I throw in a river setting.
Just a correction, you list the specs of the rod as 1/16oz to 5/8oz.....it is 1/16oz to 5/16oz actually.
Love your BFS content , keep em coming!!
@@michaelmotch6271 Thank for the input. Yeah, 5/16 is an uncommon rating on a rod.
Another great video - thanks from Denmark!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Congratulations you definitely have a knack of explaining things in an excellent way in all of your videos. Keep up the awesome videos!
Thank you Hanif. I like to explain thing I wish I knew before getting a product.
Part 1 & 2 were super informative! Bought the 7’4 after watching this!
Thank you. The Curado BFS on the Water video has the rod in action on some bass
@@HobieWanKenobi I’ll check it out
Great video quality footage 👍 good camera showing details
Thanks 👍. I tried to get as many angles of the rod to show their viewer the taper of the rod.
I love the detailed breakdown , very well done which is why I'm a new subscriber. I saw at a local store an Abu Garcia Fantista in a ML that was 6'10" and listed a weight range of 1/8 to 1/2 oz in the specs . I 'm looking for something about 6'6" to 6'10" length to throw small topwaters primarily in the 1/8 to 1/4 oz weight range and though the Dobyns you reviewed looks like it would do a great job it seemed a little longer than I wanted. The Abu Fantista though listed as a fast action rod seemed like it had enough bend in the upper 1/3 of the rod to make it a viable option for topwaters especially if using mono which has some built in stretch. That said the Fantista is around $ 300 which is a lot to spend on a topwater rod and I saw that Abu makes similar offering in the Veritas PLX TE line -up. By chance are you familiar with either rod and if so do you feel it would perform well for the desired application ? I would be using a Curado BFS reel in my case which I already own . I know the video is a couple of months old but if you get an opportunity to respond I would love your recommendation or if there is a better option I would be open to that as well. Thanks
I haven't used the Veritas rod you speak of but, I have a Veritas and I like it quite a bit for the money. I think Dobyns is going to come out with some shorter option BFS rods but, that is just hearsay. Check out Bait Finesse Empire for some other rods in the 6' to 6'6" range.
Hey Hobie,
First time viewer and subscriber. Thank you for giving me the information and what I needed to know and learn about this rod. I have been researching on building a Kastking Zephyr BFS reel with the Dobyns Sierra Ultra Rod for my BFS and sometimes crappie setup. I have been targetting specifically Ned rigs, Shaky Head, Senko, Weightless, Texas Rig, Wacky Rig concept and building my tackle arsenal with various colors and actions. I was wondering what line test and type is the sweet spot for bass since this is rated 2-8lb rod? The BFS reel im getting has 4/75, 6/65, 8/50 for mono and 15/75 20/65 25/50 for braid. I have only a fraction of an ideal of what I want for bass but for crappie I think 2lb test would be the way to go to give it more sensitivity. Also, 7' or 7'4? I only understand that it gives a bit more casting distance?
Edit: What is at the end of your line that lets you switch lures so quick?
Hey,
Thanks for the view and sub. I like 4lb for crappie and such. If fishing around cover, it helps out having the extra strength.
This rod would be ok for crappie but, not ideal. I really like this rod for finesse bass fishing, probably my favorite I have tried this far.
I have not used the 7'4 model. The 7ft I find to be more versatile and better to use shore fishing, kayak fishing too. 7'4" can be a great rod from a boat for sure
I have one paired with a Pixy TypeR. Fished it on 4lb CXX. I can't imagine it throwing 1/16oz on this stick. The tip feels too fast for that. Tinkered around and 1/8oz and 3/16oz gave me the best distance and control. Gonna try it with a Curado 50E a with an Avail spool and 6lb braid to see if it would do better for ned rigs.
Seems like this rod was made for Ned Rigs. I haven't tried the low end casting of this rod, as most people are interested in the finesse bass lures that are common like the ones I used.
The hook keeper placement is definitely on purpose. Gary Dobyns is borderline fanatical about keeper placement. He’ll admit it himself. I love Dobyns rods for bass fishing. I’m really glad Gary hopped on the BFS train relatively early (at least for bass rod companies). How do you think it would throw the smallest Rapala Floating Minnow (F-3). Can’t remember what that weighs in grams, but Rapala’s website says the F-3 and the F-5 are both 1/16oz. I’d like to use the rod for finesse bass baits as well as creek fishing. I like those little floaters in the creeks around me
I don't have any F series cranks. I can use something similar and find out. I know @rawrfishing has a video casting light lures with the Dobyns.
Hobie-Wan Kenobi Right on. I’ll check it out. On another note, what do think the future of bass fishing with spinning rods looks like? A lot of guys won’t even fish finesse (or at least won’t admit to it) because of the “fairy wand” stigma. I still use spinning rods, but if I have the option to fish ultra light baits with a casting set up, I’d much rather do that simply for the comfort of fishing a casting set up verses a spinning rod. I could see a world a decade from now where spinning rods are hardly even used anymore, except for maybe super light line applications and super deep applications like drop shotting highland reservoirs, etc. Interested to hear your thoughts. Perhaps you already talked about this in another video that I missed? Keep up the great work.
@@realjeffgarrett I think spinning rods will always have a place. I think BFS more so expands that "gray area" of where baits can be cast with spinning and casting gear. If BFS catches on in the USA, that will really get things moving. Japan been on it for years. 8lb fluorocarbon much easier to manage on a BFS reel than a spinning reel.
The hook keeper placement is by design. 😁 Also, it's a dropshot style hook keeper.
@@baitfinesseempire I like versatility from a hook keeper. I don't like when rod companies overly define their rods and make their rods "only" for that one purpose. The hook keeper in this rod can be used for pretty much any lure
Really informative video:) thanks. Was wondering if you had a recommendation on a spool for the 2020 Tatula SV to do BFS with? Have you ever tried the Zephyer reel from kastking and the Shimano sensilite rod? If so any thoughts?
I haven't tried the Zephyr or the Senselite. I really like the Roro BFS spools. Their Tatula SV 2020 BFS spools are priced really nice too. If bass fishing or using 3gr and above most times, get the thickened model. Below that most times, go with the standard.
@@HobieWanKenobi where do you order those from?
Ups...wrong spool. Obviously, you should search for Tatula SV 2020 spool
@@stevestory8483 Bait Finesse Empire will carry the Tatula SV TW BFS spools. They will launch their store opening within a couple weeks or so
do you like that dobins as good as your st croix that you built how do they compare ?thanks for the video and sharing your knowledge.
You talking about the 7ft lite powered one? The tip on the St Croix is lighter but, the taper is more tip then hit butt versus the more progressive taper in the Dobyns. I would have more confidence with the Dobyns horsing fish from docks and such.
i have the same opinion of solid tip rods. The one I am testing now is a couple levels lower in power than this rod, and the whole first half of the rod bends from a bluegill, and yet i am never happy with the transition from solid tip to the tube. I also agree with all of your other little side notes. I feel the same things even though i fish spinning.
This particular rod looks like Light power blank with Ultralight solid tip. Just from looking at it.
I would say maybe an American UL tip. It isn't a whippy tip at all. The tip doesn't seem to be overstressed casting weights in the upper range of the rod and loads well on the lower end.
right. but 99% of the time you will be working with the top 1 foot of this rod. And the most ironic thing is this is EXACTLY how most american bass anglers like it. They like 'backbone'
@@ifishcatfish The rod is responsive to work lures and detect bites. It will allow hooksets and continue to give under more and more pressure
Any thoughts on dobyns vs the Diawa bass 642 for light saltwater
I haven't used the Daiwa rod you mentioned but, the Dobyns would seem right at home catching smaller redfish and other inshore fish.
Man....your vids are so informative! Once again well done! Although I have several BFS rods from highend brands (Megabass Destroyer Elese, Megabass Brand New Destroyer P5 Criff Hanger Thrilling, Daiwa Steez Lightning 2 and so on) I would love to give this rod a test. The american rod actions differ from the japanese actions which is quite welcome in certain situations. Unfortunately I doubt that this rod will be aivailable in Germany so I will have to import which makes this rod about 25% more expensive. Maybe on the next Black Friday Sales from Tackle Warehouse. Do you think this rod will be capable of throwing trout lures and load properly (total lure weight 3 grams or less)?
This rod can load and cast 3gr quite well.
Arne,
Dobyns Rods has a few distributors in Europe. I'm not sure if they have this particular rod on hand, but it's worth checking.
@@baitfinesseempire Thanks a lot for your comment but I googled everything and wasn’t able to find anything. Maybe I should ask directly on Dobyns homepage. Dobyns store locator didn‘t display any dealer in Europe as well. But once again...thanks for your reply, really appreciated!
@@arnemueller2112 shoot me an email, I'll see what I can dig up for you
amir@baitfinesseempire.com
Would this rod be a good fit with the Shimano 22 Aldebaran bfs reel? Very informative video.
Yeah. I used the Aldebaran BFS with this rod, the Phenix Classic BFS and other rods. Depends on what type of fishing you usually will do
I haven’t finished the vid yet so apologies if you answered this.
How does it compare to a spinning setup? Can it cast as far, or further with the lighter baits that many switch to spinners for?
I’m also considering a rays pole and a new caster bfs offering from old18.
I would say spinning will get you a little more distance but, BFS gives you more control.
I am thinking about getting the ultra finesse SA700C paired with Curado BFS. mainly looking to throw 5" wacky rig weightless senkos, small paddle tails, ned rig, drop shot , neko rig, and weightless craws . Do you think the rod would handle those baits well?
Yes...for sure. I have the Curado BFS on my Dobyns 700c and it casts all those lures. The rod loads well on the cast and is fun with smaller bass and still has backbone for bigger ones.
Where did you get the finesse jig in the beginning?
I got a ton of them being sold by someone on the TackleTour forums. Baitfinesseempire.com just launch and has jigs and will be carrying more coming soon.
I've been looking for a BFS setup for trout in small streams and I'd also use it for finesse bass fishing. How do you think this rod would work? I'm looking at the 6'5" version of the rod. I fish a lot of Blue Fox Vibrax spinners.
Really would depend on the size fish and lure. It wouldn't be my first choice for that. Too long and a little too much power for most fish in small streams.
Like i commented on your other video. I caught my 1st big bass on my BFS setup and it was with this Dobyns rod. Definitely an all purpose rod you can use for ALL finesse Bass presentations as long as you put it on at least a 6lb-10lb line. I used a 10lb Seaguar Smackdown to a 5lb FC sniper Floro mainly and it handles much more than it should.
Awesome!!! What reel were you using?
@@HobieWanKenobi currently I’m using the Kastking Zephyr but as soon as my Curado BFS gets here next week, that’ll be my go to. Curado BFS looks very promising
@@_Lt__Dan_ I am waiting for my Curado BFS as well
Is this Dobyns rod a moderate taper with fast action? Or is it fast taper with fast action? The 7'4" is fast taper, fast action and I was wondering if it would flex like the 7' rod you have...I just never heard you say if it was the moderate action rod that you have or not.
The taper is similar, the rod is just a little longer
Mine should be here tomorrow. Pray that Fedex didn't destroy it.
You will like it. Let me know your thoughts on the rod
Open the package before signing for it.
FedEx broke my poison adrena and did not cover it because they said I should have checked it before signing fornit6
@@ocdfishingaus268 Good advice.
@@ocdfishingaus268 what sucks is due to covid, packages just get list I on our landing at work. Guy doesn't even acknowledge us. Had a lot of damaged parcels to file claims on. Wish I had a choice not to use them.
I just watched both parts and I'm really impressed at the level of detail you put into your review. You answered so many questions that I had on this rod, but I still have a couple. I currently use a spinning rod to throw 1/8th oz shakeyheads with 6.5 inch trick worms, 3/16th oz drop shots with 4-6 inch roboworms, 1/8th to 1/4 oz ball heads with 2.8 keitechs, and weightless 5 inch senkos. Do you think this rod is capable of throwing these or should I look for more of a medium light power rod?
This rod will still work with those baits. If the bait feels kinda heavy, don't put tons of power into the cast. Let the rod load up for you. That is within reason.
@@HobieWanKenobi Ok great. Do you think the rod will feel underpowered at all? I want to feel comfortable fishing when working baits and setting the hook. I hate the feeling of a slightly underpowered rod.
@@GaryAnderson87 The rod has a decent amount of backbone. Watch my Curado on the Water video, you get to see the Dobyns in action
@@HobieWanKenobi Sounds good. Thanks man!
I didn't even know dobins made a BFS rod. I have a 3 piece Beams Fishman 6.4 UL for bfs that's just way too expensive. What's the cost in the rod?
This one costs $180 retail. Bait Finesse Empire will be carrying this rod and the 7'4 version. Should be open soon.
@@HobieWanKenobi Did you ever try Daiwa's Blazon Mobile telescopic rods yet? There very unique/innovative and different.
@@emmpak I have not tried them
Hey man quick question. Do you see any issues with having the 7’4” version of this rod? Says it’s extra fast moderate lol whatever that means, didn’t even know a rod could be both 😂 But yeah it was the only model they had when I purchased it and was just wondering if I made a mistake and should have waited for say the 7’ Fast, to be available. Have it paired with the SLX BFS and it’s definitely for bass btw. Thanks man. Just was curious to hear your thoughts as bfs is still fairly new to me. 🤙🏽
The extra fast speaks about the tip. Under more pressure, the main rod blank bends similar to a moderate tapered rod. The 7'4" is just fine if fishing from shore or a boat
@@HobieWanKenobi Ok cool thanks man. 👊🏽 Was just curious. Haven’t really been too impressed with my casting distance so far on smaller baits, probably need more practice with it, such a different release point… and probably don’t have the reel dialed in yet either, but was just wondering if maybe the rod choice was an issue and if I should have gotten the shorter “fast” model. I fish mostly from shore and am a taller dude haha so I tend to get longer rods regardless, it’s very nice, but yeah that “extra fast moderate” label on there threw me for a loop when I first saw it. 😂
That rod will be good. Distance depends on a few factors but, as long as the lure gets where you need it, that's what matters
Just wondering if you got your hands on a old 18 suppressor ultra light rod yet
I haven't. Never heard of it.
I am thinking about buying one but I seen a dude broke one on TH-cam channel red fish went under the kayak and it snapped
@@eugenejohnson8635 That can happen to any rod, especially in a Kayak. They got warranty as well
I plan to buy this rod and which reel would you recommend between a gekkabijin or aldabarian? I fish mostly lakes, rivers for BFS bass, and once in awhile streams out west for trout. I am primarily switching over from ned rig type spinning to BFS..love casting reels.
I'd slap a Gekkabijin AIR TW on it. Mine has been great for bass fishing. This rod may be a bit long/powerful for trout streams.
@@HobieWanKenobi what do you think of thr 22 diawa steez ct 70?
@@danvanbuskirk7051 I really liked mine. I wanted to try the Aldebaran 30 so, I sold my Steez. The price you pay to test tackle 😂
In stream fishing the Gekkabijin with bushtrail line what roro spool would you recommend the standard or senior? I have a spectra rays 5ft 1 rod. I want to make accurate casts with a set up that has some give since my rod is not glass
@@HobieWanKenobi i did purchase the gekkabijin from digitaka ..speedy service!