Great review. Have to disagree about the Teton but only because I am fishing under different circumstances. Sure purists will give you stick for suggesting the Mojo Bass rod due to its rating, but I agree as I think BFS is many different things to people around the globe. I would call it Power BFS and probably be shot down in flames for doing so.😂
Agree. The teton didn't suit me at all - but many enjoy it. And 100% agree on the Power BFS. More bass focused for sure. Appreciate your channel - I use a lot of MicroFly line because of a few of your videos. ;P
Rod/reel combo with fishing kit as an emergency setup th-cam.com/users/postUgkxntWMOZsO1Zfv-pdn_XuffEtNkTYAYu4Z recommend but started to use this every day. The rod is thick and seems durable. I keep it neatly tucked into a regular backpack all the time with my fishing gear, and can grab it anytime, put it on my back and go anywhere. I just read in another review that the rod length below the reel is adjustable as well, so I will try that too for even more portability. Probably the best setup I've ever owned. I lost the cap for the eyelets, but no big deal since I still have the black cloth sheath that came for the pole and I use that. Very portable and high quality.
I honestly don't think I've done a full review of either! I need to do the Mojo Bass for sure - I fished it quite a bit! So many ideas; I could do an video every day if I had the time!
Very nice. North Fork Composite has the new xray blanks out. These are the top tier, US made, carbon blanks that weigh next to nothing. They have the P 700 blank for UL and theyre on sale from 250 down to 80 right now. Maybe try building your own or have a local builder do it for you.
@@AaronHuntFishing O took my own advice and built a bfs rod off the P-700 Xray blank. I also just finished building a bfs rod on a Rainshadow sp840 blank. Both are amazing. Try the building. I did it on a whim and I love it. Not that I have a ton of time with an 8 and 11 yr old kids, job, back at school getting a masters in mechanical engineering, home to maintain, and a marriage to maintain....find the time. It very rewarding and fun.
North fork makes great blanks. We make our own saltwater inshore casting rods from 9’ fly blanks. if you buy 4-5 of them, the prices are fantastic. Making a rod takes a few hours of tedious work, but pretty rewarding. And catching a 30” red on this tackle … nothing beats it.
I wish I had the same amount of luck getting ahold of Ace Hawk when my Venom snapped. I tried for weeks, but never got a response. In the end, I had to suck it up and buy a different rod.
I just received my Bass Pro Micro Lite Glass Casting Rod - 4'10" UL. I agree with Fishingelbow, not sure about the grip. I can say there is a lot of filler used on it. took it out on Friday to test on a small local NJ stream.. Mounted a Dark Wolf Ultra (there upgraded brake model.) I was casting a 1/12 oz phoebe and a 1/8 oz Lil Cleo. 8lb braid to 2 lb fluoro. Rod handled those lures great. Only fish hooked was a 14 " sucker that I snagged in the tail.The blank bends smoothly until you get to the ferrule connection then it flattens a bit. The rod did an excellent job as did the Dark Wolfs drag really smooth. I would say the rod is a definite keeper. I was able to flick cast both spoon.decently but not it's strong suit.. Roll castings seems the best way if you want distance and accuracy
I had a Microlite glass rod I got for my grandson. The handle was way too big for his hands, so I tried to reshape it and found out it was a piece of gray rubber(?) with a cork design tape glued on top of it. Forgot about sanding that handle and replaced it with real cork. Played with it a bit and found the action to be quite progressive, as one would expect from a glass rod. Felt indestructible yet surprisingly decent. May buy one for myself to carry at all times.😎
Aaron, appreciate the BFS rod suggestions. Only problem now is they take over two months to get from Ali. Really would like to get the Ace CU but delivery not until October 😮.
Nice review . I have the same fibreglass flick rod (same rod -different brand) , and the Ace hawk Victoria , same as yourself , I consider them a "pair" , some streams I want the extra stiffness of the graphite , but both rods are a joy to use . I've been adding four piece rods to my collection , I pack a light rated rod along with a medium heavy , if the fishings tough , I set up the lighter rod . Travel BFS rods is where Ali xpress stands out as Japan/US/Europe manufacturers don't seem to have any in their line ups .
I really find the bait finesse is about creating the right set-ups for the right conditions. Appreciate your perspective and suggestions. With the bigger focus on Kayak fishing this year, I'll be keying in on creating a good set of smallmouth bass rods for various techniques. I feel like I have my small stream options pretty well covered.
Nice and honest review, appreciated! Of these, I own both the Delecacy and the ACE Hawk CU double, and of these the CU Double is undoubtedly the better rod when it comes to build quality and components in my opinion. Although I like both. Also have great trust in ACE, so thinking about a Venom as well.
I was impressed by Ace's customer service, because my inquiry about the Venom was months after I bought it. Just shipping is taking a long time because of the Chinese New year, but I'll do a full review and cover the details of the experience once I have the replacment and fish it a few times. I just try to share my honest experiences in hopes it will help others find gear they like more quickly..
@@AaronHuntFishing Looking forward to your review! Have heard good things about Venom from other BFS enthusiasts as well, think among others Andrew's Knots on TH-cam has made a video about it. 👍🏻
Here's a half-cork handle: amzn.to/4a5FyFD It can do 1/8, but it's at the bottom end of it's range. I'm liking the Handing products right now. I have 2 of their Miracle Bass rods in the lineup for this spring / summer season.
13:12 this ia a realisation I had after I subbed to "on the real" fishing because he was using a bright green rod (was a kastking zephyr). I then used that strategy myself and have purposely sourced eye catching tackle
I’ve been fishing the Bass Pro Micro Lite spinning rod in graphite for the last month and have been impressed with its ability to cast 1/64 oz jigs. Bluegills are fun to catch on it.
I’m not trout fishing I live in the south I fish for crappie throwing 1/16 and 1/8 road runner and mini spinners what’s your suggestion for a all around best rod that’s got a little backbone if I latch into a 3 pound crappie
What you're describing, with a cork handle, is what I couldn't find. And still haven't yet. It's why I worked with Kistler to design their BFS rods: Cork handle, can throw down to 1/32 easily, but still land a 5 lb Smallmouth. It's the only rod that I've come across that does all of that. Decent cork is expensive these days - that's why the trend of foam grips - or lately the exposed butt - are popular: It's less expensive. But the real magic is having tip flexibility to cast light lures, along with backbone to fight big fish. I'll link a budget rod that can do down to 1/8 on your other comment, but here's the best rod for the job: www.aaronhunt.net/recommends/kistler-bfs/
That's a Teton I haven't tried. Seems like it just keeps going up in price! Seems to spec out well, for sure. Man - i could try out a new rod/reel combo every week I think!
I completely disagree on your 662l take. it has a progressive taper and more of a parabolic bend, especially compared to major craft bfs rods. Maybe you were mistaken on the model? The 662l teton is probably the best suited bfs for finesse bass fishing of the rods you mentioned. Also its closer to an ul than a lot of manufacturers ul bfs models which are usualy ml or l despite their rating. While it can get down 2 gram range it doesn't do it as good as others in ur vid. I caught a 30 inch carp on the 662l teton and a 2015 alderbaran with 6lb fc. Your description of that teton would be mine almost verbatim for major craft benkei ul65. (kuying 65l conqueror is in the same boat inmo). While the Major-craft volkey 652ulbfs would fill the gap between benkei and the 662l teton. From your stated rod preferences you would probably like the 602ul teton. Has a ul action and a slower taper with a parabolic bend. was one of my faves till i broke the handle with my car...lol Paired so good with my Diawa air tw. fiy some bfs reels will perform better or worse with diferent rod actions and tapers. Daiwa presso bfs and air tw bfs seem to like a slower taper and parabolic rod. But there is no way i would consider the teton 662l fast/faster than anything but bfs ul trout rods which in my opinion it is not that and would not be a negative even if it was because different rods for different techniques and all that. I use major craft finetail 54ul and a ttc-522sul teton for trout among a few others and a bunch more available for bass depending on what i want to throw. 5 years or so ago and this conversation would consist of 2 or three rod models...its awesome even major brands are making bfs rods and reels for mainstream market now! ;)
Appreciate your feedback. I found the Teton and the Benkei to be equally disappointing - but I do agree that it is great to have so many choices these days!
@@AaronHuntFishing Like i said maybe not your preferred specs but while not my most used rod i use it paired with a conquest bfs 8lb fc when fishing weedles small plastics. the extra power n backbone helps drive hooks thru a texas rig. But still the 662l teton is considerably lighter action and has a more parabolic bend compared to the benkei 65ul. The ace hawk cu double for example is way less parabolic than the teton in action. all be it with a much softer lighter tip. the teton line has a large selection of actions tapers and lengths. Sucks their prices have went up. I had both the ttc510s and ttc602ls among my teton collection and broke the top half on one and the bottom half on the other (my fault both times) and I dont want to spend 80 dollars more than what i paid each to replace em....handle kinda sucked to but awesome rods other than that. P.S. Im not trying to argue i just want peeps to have a point of comparison. The right rod in bfs makes the difference between someone joining the bfs game or giving up. As bfs goes you have to buy rods sight unseen more often than not so an accurate description is important.
I agree with Shitzen that the teton 662 is very parabolic. It and the TSU Dragon are my go to rods when I don't want a fast action L rod. It's just a thought...
I'm still looking for something to beat my Aldebaran / Expride set-up. It's that good. Probably Aldebaran and Poison Adrena. But, the Conquest BFS / Bluecurrent III could be a great combo for trout / streams. Then you could always go all Steez - which I haven't tried yet (like $800-$1k combo). But it's probably pretty awesome. @JohnsFishingJourneys has a Steez combo and loves it. And some folks love the Megabass Orochi rods. Kistler is also making some "power BFS" in the Helium line, and true BFS in the KLX line as a custom. And on the lighter side, the Gekkabijin/Jenko Double Down has been pretty impressive. Just a few off the top of my head which may eventually show up on the channel :P
great video. I have recently got a soloking hicc-50 pro with 2 spools as my first bfs baitcaster when they were on sail for $37 american $47 cnd an are looking for a rod for it. I was thinking of the ace hawk venom in both sizes and later may be the ace hawk angle wing have you tried the angle wing? for my two spools deep one 10lb braid with 6 or 8lb floro leader shallow spool six lb braid if i can find it with 6 or 4 lb leaded what are your thoughs? most of my ultralight lures are in 1/16 to 1/8 oz size but will pick up more.
I've currently got the Soloking Acura on an Ace Hawk CU Double. Haven't tried the Wing. The Venom was too delicate for me. AFTER this video, i broke two of them (maybe the second one was after this - been a while). Line plan sound good. Acura casts great even on the deeper spool as long as you don't pack it full. I think i had 70-75 yds of 6 lb J-braid on mine. Will be putting some Sunline Siglon 8# on it in the Next week or two.
I have all these rods and thank you for recomending the Obsession brand about a year ago. I have been very pleased with mine. I agree with all your comments except for the Teton 662 L. Mine is strongly in the parabolic range.
Hi, im pretty new to this type of fishing. In my country/area we have a lot of small creeks and streams. With a lake and pond here and there. Nothing really deep or open except a canal. I have fished on carp before with succes. But now i want to target pike and other predatory fish. Im not sure if there are any big pikes out here so what kind of setup should I get as a beginner? I want to try a range of bait weights.
Either somehting in the 2 to 8 gram lure capacity (1/16 to 1/4 oz rod rating), or go full-on power bfs with 5 or 6 grams to 15 gram setups (womehting rated up to 1/2 oz).
Man, such a can of worms. First off, here in the US handle on the right - or "Right Hand" - baitcasters tend to sell 9 times better than "left handed" baitcasters. That may not be true across the board, but from the companies I've talked to, that's their numbers. I grew up fishing spinning with the handle on the right. I guess I've always been an oddball. So switching to left-handed BC reels felt odd, but here's the main reason I prefer it: Efficiency. When you are casting, your hands are already prepared to start reeling when the lure hits the water. This translates into more casts per hour. But more importantly, when fishing shallow water or moving water, you can control and work the bait immediately as well, especially if you are making a flat-trajectory, accurate cast. A cast where you are targeting a pocklet that you think is holding a fish. You dont waste the cast by being slow to work the lure. That assumes you cast with your right hand. But, becasuse I fished with the rod in my left hand for nearly 50 years, I do find my instincts fighting a fish are better with a right handed reel. But I have yet to feel I lost a fish with the rod in my right hand, and defintiely know I have hooked fish when the lure hits the water because I was ready to roll. So while I prefer left, I use both.
Can you give me a recommendation for a rod and reel in the $160 ish range to use for drop shot fishing largemouth? I’ll be using 6-8 lb test line and 1/8 -1/4 oz weights. Thank you!
I don't do a ton of drop-shotting. Spinning is probably the BEST for mroe vertical drop-shotting. But, I'd go with faster carbon for this. With Major Craft Benkei on Sale at Tackle Warehouse, I'd probably get that and the Acura Reel if I were buying a BFS combo today specfically for drop shot in that budget.
The Obsession Mojos are shown with different color options, but nothing about which rods are which colors. Is there any way of knowing which color you are getting?
Obviously my Signature line from Kistler is pretty awesome. :) www.aaronhunt.net/recommends/kistler-bfs/ The Jenko is a decent rod. Power isn't standardized, so ML can mean a lot of different things. I think the Major Carft Benkei and Shimano Expride BFS are both available in 1 piece. After the Kistler I'd probably go Expride, then Jenko, then Benkei.
Thanks for not recommending the Tsurinoya Dragon C602UL, it is NOT an ultra light! I had a load test test done to determine speed of this casting rod. It actually fits in the Light category. The C662L is slower (softer bend) than the C602UL. I contacted Tsurinoya and provided results. They say they're within limits. Crap! Agree with commenter that the Ace Hawk CU Double much better for half the price.
I liked the video but i get very confused by the ending. Are we talking about the highly recommended Kyuing Teton TTC-662L 2-10g? I have used it for 2 seasons as a redfin perch rod here in Sweden and my complaint is that it is too progressive and slow and have been trying to find a faster less progressive alternative. Now i don't use it for trout stream fishing, i use my Palms Egeria Native Performance, Daiwa Silver Stream Twitcher and Abu Garcia Zoom Safari for that .... but honestly i feel that the TTC-662L would suit me better as an area trout rod than bass/perch rod.
@@olivierthiriau6674 COuldn't tell you because if I see XF I won't buy it... - not the kind of rods that suit my fishing in my expereince. Just like I said in the video.
It's possible, or just out of stock. Guess that's why people to these types of videos almost every year! Hopefully it comes back because I've heard good things about it.
Beats me. I do care about aesthetics, so i guess maybe something black or gray is your best bet. Classic silver would probably work too - but I know of nothing that matches it.
Hey Aaron! Really helpful video! I'm looking to get into a BFS rod for trout to pair with my DWU variant. Which of the rods from this video has the fastest action vs are the most whippy? Thanks!
I don't do a lot of fast rods in general. The Ace Hawk venom fits that bill though. th-cam.com/video/YrC2wdWSj04/w-d-xo.html The Lemoren Windshadow is the whippiest by far. th-cam.com/video/K6kDkj_tjyM/w-d-xo.html And the Obsession trout sensation is moderate fast in my opinion. th-cam.com/video/tIc7cYLu4mA/w-d-xo.html
Not a fan of KastKing in general. The zephyr had a lot of quality control issues early on, so I never tried it out. Then a few other KK products had QC issues, and they started price gouging US consumers IMO, and I was done with them.
Very informative video. I have a old school eagle claw Featherlite [4ft 6]paired up with a bps finesse baitcaster spooled with 6lb mono,been using for over 20 years,looking to upgrade.
Someone who knows the rod I was referencing! Depends on the lure range and the type of fish you're looking to target. But that BPS Finesse is probably the Pro-Lite or Extreme? Tech has come a long way. But the old gear well taken care of still catches fish!
@@AaronHuntFishing I use one of the PRO lites on the ec and another on a Allstar 6 ft light rod for small jerkbaits, the Extreme Is on a 7/6 Extreme Popping rod which I use for finesse jigs and crankbaits ,caught my pb a estimate 7or 8lb on the 7/6using a 1/4OZ shallow crankbait.the big girls put up a heck of a fight on the light rods,I'm a bank fisherman and use light tackle 90 percent of the time,
Is it really that good of a rod? I was thinking about maybe the Dobyn sierra series bfs or the phenix classics bfs rod which is 200$. But if I’m fish for bluegills and crappie. I just don’t think I need to be spending that kind of money on a rod. What you think?
love the recommendations in this video. had to ask being you use alot of different bfs reels and rods whats your opinion on the daiwa alphas air tw as i just ordered one yesterday and was curious to hear your thoughts
I'm probably not the best to ask -it's about my least favorite reel. Here was my long term review: th-cam.com/video/Pp9wJcrCfqM/w-d-xo.html BUT, a lot of people really like it it. It's defintiely a great starting place, and if it works for you, awesome. MAYBE i had a bad copy. I do love the Daiwa Gekkabijin and Silver Creek. Also plan on buying a Steez at some point.
Alphas Air Tw is a great reel . I got 2 of them and also own the Gekkabijin Air tw and the Silver Creek Air Tw . Its a brilliant reel and i use mine regularly . It sits in the middle of the other too for me . A good all rounder . I like the fact that it doesnt have a clicky drag too . Ultimate in BFS stealth .
He doesn't have a channel - just a subscriber from Australia who provides some good feedback periodically! Check out the BFS Finesse FIshing group on facebook. It's run by Adrian from the Constant Angler Channel: facebook.com/groups/2925161927747288
@@AaronHuntFishing I have just started to follow the constant anger. There's another guy from Australia too but I'll have to go find it and text it when I do.
Great review. Have to disagree about the Teton but only because I am fishing under different circumstances. Sure purists will give you stick for suggesting the Mojo Bass rod due to its rating, but I agree as I think BFS is many different things to people around the globe. I would call it Power BFS and probably be shot down in flames for doing so.😂
Agree. The teton didn't suit me at all - but many enjoy it. And 100% agree on the Power BFS. More bass focused for sure. Appreciate your channel - I use a lot of MicroFly line because of a few of your videos. ;P
Rod/reel combo with fishing kit as an emergency setup th-cam.com/users/postUgkxntWMOZsO1Zfv-pdn_XuffEtNkTYAYu4Z recommend but started to use this every day. The rod is thick and seems durable. I keep it neatly tucked into a regular backpack all the time with my fishing gear, and can grab it anytime, put it on my back and go anywhere. I just read in another review that the rod length below the reel is adjustable as well, so I will try that too for even more portability. Probably the best setup I've ever owned. I lost the cap for the eyelets, but no big deal since I still have the black cloth sheath that came for the pole and I use that. Very portable and high quality.
I'd say they're a good value, but wouldn't go so far to say they are excellent quality.
Great video, I've been contemplating the obsession rods but haven't pulled the trigger yet. I'll have to watch your videos again 😁
I honestly don't think I've done a full review of either! I need to do the Mojo Bass for sure - I fished it quite a bit! So many ideas; I could do an video every day if I had the time!
Very nice. North Fork Composite has the new xray blanks out. These are the top tier, US made, carbon blanks that weigh next to nothing. They have the P 700 blank for UL and theyre on sale from 250 down to 80 right now. Maybe try building your own or have a local builder do it for you.
Appreciate the info - I'm definitely not diving into rod building myself, but I'm sure some others will find this helpful.
@@AaronHuntFishing O took my own advice and built a bfs rod off the P-700 Xray blank. I also just finished building a bfs rod on a Rainshadow sp840 blank. Both are amazing.
Try the building. I did it on a whim and I love it. Not that I have a ton of time with an 8 and 11 yr old kids, job, back at school getting a masters in mechanical engineering, home to maintain, and a marriage to maintain....find the time. It very rewarding and fun.
North fork makes great blanks. We make our own saltwater inshore casting rods from 9’ fly blanks. if you buy 4-5 of them, the prices are fantastic. Making a rod takes a few hours of tedious work, but pretty rewarding. And catching a 30” red on this tackle … nothing beats it.
I wish I had the same amount of luck getting ahold of Ace Hawk when my Venom snapped. I tried for weeks, but never got a response. In the end, I had to suck it up and buy a different rod.
Sorry to hear that. I was surprised by their response - but it appears to not be a very delicate rod.
I just received my Bass Pro Micro Lite Glass Casting Rod - 4'10" UL. I agree with Fishingelbow, not sure about the grip. I can say there is a lot of filler used on it. took it out on Friday to test on a small local NJ stream.. Mounted a Dark Wolf Ultra (there upgraded brake model.) I was casting a 1/12 oz phoebe and a 1/8 oz Lil Cleo. 8lb braid to 2 lb fluoro. Rod handled those lures great. Only fish hooked was a 14 " sucker that I snagged in the tail.The blank bends smoothly until you get to the ferrule connection then it flattens a bit. The rod did an excellent job as did the Dark Wolfs drag really smooth. I would say the rod is a definite keeper. I was able to flick cast both spoon.decently but not it's strong suit.. Roll castings seems the best way if you want distance and accuracy
Awesome - great to hear. Glad it worked out well.
I had a Microlite glass rod I got for my grandson. The handle was way too big for his hands, so I tried to reshape it and found out it was a piece of gray rubber(?) with a cork design tape glued on top of it. Forgot about sanding that handle and replaced it with real cork. Played with it a bit and found the action to be quite progressive, as one would expect from a glass rod. Felt indestructible yet surprisingly decent. May buy one for myself to carry at all times.😎
Wow, great info. I’m looking forward to trying it out!
Aaron, appreciate the BFS rod suggestions. Only problem now is they take over two months to get from Ali. Really would like to get the Ace CU but delivery not until October 😮.
My CU Double had a long delivery date, but arrived within a few weeks earlier this year.
Nice review . I have the same fibreglass flick rod (same rod -different brand) , and the Ace hawk Victoria , same as yourself , I consider them a "pair" , some streams I want the extra stiffness of the graphite , but both rods are a joy to use .
I've been adding four piece rods to my collection , I pack a light rated rod along with a medium heavy , if the fishings tough , I set up the lighter rod . Travel BFS rods is where Ali xpress stands out as Japan/US/Europe manufacturers don't seem to have any in their line ups .
I really find the bait finesse is about creating the right set-ups for the right conditions. Appreciate your perspective and suggestions. With the bigger focus on Kayak fishing this year, I'll be keying in on creating a good set of smallmouth bass rods for various techniques. I feel like I have my small stream options pretty well covered.
Nice and honest review, appreciated! Of these, I own both the Delecacy and the ACE Hawk CU double, and of these the CU Double is undoubtedly the better rod when it comes to build quality and components in my opinion. Although I like both. Also have great trust in ACE, so thinking about a Venom as well.
I was impressed by Ace's customer service, because my inquiry about the Venom was months after I bought it. Just shipping is taking a long time because of the Chinese New year, but I'll do a full review and cover the details of the experience once I have the replacment and fish it a few times. I just try to share my honest experiences in hopes it will help others find gear they like more quickly..
@@AaronHuntFishing Looking forward to your review! Have heard good things about Venom from other BFS enthusiasts as well, think among others Andrew's Knots on TH-cam has made a video about it. 👍🏻
The venom is an amazing rod for its price. It's a much slower action compared to the cu double
DO you have a recommendation for a spinning rod for trout around the same price range that is either telescopic or 2-piece?
Nope. haven't used a spinning rod in years....
The bass pro crappie max pro 6' light. 39.99 fantastic. A must try. Maybe check out the 7' UL too.
Good tip!
Is there something in the 6’6 length maybe cork handle? If you had to buy one and throwing what I’m throwing 1/8 fin spin if you can send me a link
Here's a half-cork handle: amzn.to/4a5FyFD It can do 1/8, but it's at the bottom end of it's range. I'm liking the Handing products right now. I have 2 of their Miracle Bass rods in the lineup for this spring / summer season.
Yeah I’m sure that’s a awesome rod but I’m a $120 or less for a bfs rods lol any other suggestions
These are all under $80.. These days I would add the Handing Miracle Bass and Handing Magic L to the list.
13:12 this ia a realisation I had after I subbed to "on the real" fishing because he was using a bright green rod (was a kastking zephyr). I then used that strategy myself and have purposely sourced eye catching tackle
Very cool. My new faves aren't high vis at all, so I've been experimenting with higher vis line...
@@AaronHuntFishing yep, I just st spooled a reel with pink :)
@@yep.fishing I love pink line! Wish I could find J-braid grand in it...
Wish you would’ve had that CU double rod. I’ve heard really good things about it.
So have I. You could pick it up for $32 right now during the 11.11 sale.s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DexSI0F
I’ve been fishing the Bass Pro Micro Lite spinning rod in graphite for the last month and have been impressed with its ability to cast 1/64 oz jigs. Bluegills are fun to catch on it.
Appreciate that feedback - the specs seemed right on!
Ok buddy I’ve added the magic L to my cart in 6’6 ML and give that a try alone with the Double Down by jenko thanks
enjoy!
Thanks for the tips!
Happy to help!
Alex from realistic fishing has one of those rods. It's a nice looking rod.
Which rod? I’ll have to check it out - I might already be subscribed! :)
Which one of those can still land a shark off the bay in San Francisco? For bfs halibut , ling cod, and stripper too?
I'll go out on a limb and say none of them... :)
@@AaronHuntFishing thank you,
@@AaronHuntFishing ima use a lil kids rod from bass pro then, I can still land a shark with that.
You do you, man. Tight Lines.
I'm all about budget rods.... probaly because i break so many. Haha. Gonna have to give one of these a try.
I think you said you nreak at least 1 per year - i got 2 last year!
@@AaronHuntFishing well, i broke 1 fishing.... 2 in the car door. Haha. Maybe I'll have better luck with those short rods
I’m not trout fishing I live in the south I fish for crappie throwing 1/16 and 1/8 road runner and mini spinners what’s your suggestion for a all around best rod that’s got a little backbone if I latch into a 3 pound crappie
What you're describing, with a cork handle, is what I couldn't find. And still haven't yet.
It's why I worked with Kistler to design their BFS rods: Cork handle, can throw down to 1/32 easily, but still land a 5 lb Smallmouth. It's the only rod that I've come across that does all of that.
Decent cork is expensive these days - that's why the trend of foam grips - or lately the exposed butt - are popular: It's less expensive. But the real magic is having tip flexibility to cast light lures, along with backbone to fight big fish. I'll link a budget rod that can do down to 1/8 on your other comment, but here's the best rod for the job: www.aaronhunt.net/recommends/kistler-bfs/
Great Video. The Teton TTC510 SUL is expensive but worth it. If you wait for the summer sale or 11-11 sale you can buy it for $110.
That's a Teton I haven't tried. Seems like it just keeps going up in price! Seems to spec out well, for sure. Man - i could try out a new rod/reel combo every week I think!
So whitch one is best you recommend an cheapest?? Would help alot thanks?
Depends on what you're fishing for - but if you want cheapest - probably the Bass Pro glass one.
@AnglingwithAaron only want it fortfout bro bit want a 7'6 length. The. You still recommend the shimano slx bfs?
@@trout_spankn_dominoeacosta6914 yep.
I completely disagree on your 662l take. it has a progressive taper and more of a parabolic bend, especially compared to major craft bfs rods. Maybe you were mistaken on the model? The 662l teton is probably the best suited bfs for finesse bass fishing of the rods you mentioned. Also its closer to an ul than a lot of manufacturers ul bfs models which are usualy ml or l despite their rating. While it can get down 2 gram range it doesn't do it as good as others in ur vid. I caught a 30 inch carp on the 662l teton and a 2015 alderbaran with 6lb fc.
Your description of that teton would be mine almost verbatim for major craft benkei ul65. (kuying 65l conqueror is in the same boat inmo). While the Major-craft volkey 652ulbfs would fill the gap between benkei and the 662l teton.
From your stated rod preferences you would probably like the 602ul teton. Has a ul action and a slower taper with a parabolic bend. was one of my faves till i broke the handle with my car...lol Paired so good with my Diawa air tw. fiy some bfs reels will perform better or worse with diferent rod actions and tapers. Daiwa presso bfs and air tw bfs seem to like a slower taper and parabolic rod.
But there is no way i would consider the teton 662l fast/faster than anything but bfs ul trout rods which in my opinion it is not that and would not be a negative even if it was because different rods for different techniques and all that. I use major craft finetail 54ul and a ttc-522sul teton for trout among a few others and a bunch more available for bass depending on what i want to throw.
5 years or so ago and this conversation would consist of 2 or three rod models...its awesome even major brands are making bfs rods and reels for mainstream market now! ;)
Appreciate your feedback. I found the Teton and the Benkei to be equally disappointing - but I do agree that it is great to have so many choices these days!
@@AaronHuntFishing Like i said maybe not your preferred specs but while not my most used rod i use it paired with a conquest bfs 8lb fc when fishing weedles small plastics. the extra power n backbone helps drive hooks thru a texas rig.
But still the 662l teton is considerably lighter action and has a more parabolic bend compared to the benkei 65ul. The ace hawk cu double for example is way less parabolic than the teton in action. all be it with a much softer lighter tip.
the teton line has a large selection of actions tapers and lengths. Sucks their prices have went up.
I had both the ttc510s and ttc602ls among my teton collection and broke the top half on one and the bottom half on the other (my fault both times) and I dont want to spend 80 dollars more than what i paid each to replace em....handle kinda sucked to but awesome rods other than that.
P.S. Im not trying to argue i just want peeps to have a point of comparison. The right rod in bfs makes the difference between someone joining the bfs game or giving up. As bfs goes you have to buy rods sight unseen more often than not so an accurate description is important.
I agree with Shitzen that the teton 662 is very parabolic. It and the TSU Dragon are my go to rods when I don't want a fast action L rod. It's just a thought...
If you was to go big,what Rod n reel would you pick. No price limit.
I'm still looking for something to beat my Aldebaran / Expride set-up. It's that good. Probably Aldebaran and Poison Adrena. But, the Conquest BFS / Bluecurrent III could be a great combo for trout / streams. Then you could always go all Steez - which I haven't tried yet (like $800-$1k combo). But it's probably pretty awesome. @JohnsFishingJourneys has a Steez combo and loves it. And some folks love the Megabass Orochi rods. Kistler is also making some "power BFS" in the Helium line, and true BFS in the KLX line as a custom. And on the lighter side, the Gekkabijin/Jenko Double Down has been pretty impressive. Just a few off the top of my head which may eventually show up on the channel :P
great video. I have recently got a soloking hicc-50 pro with 2 spools as my first bfs baitcaster when they were on sail for $37 american $47 cnd an are looking for a rod for it. I was thinking of the ace hawk venom in both sizes and later may be the ace hawk angle wing have you tried the angle wing? for my two spools deep one 10lb braid with 6 or 8lb floro leader shallow spool six lb braid if i can find it with 6 or 4 lb leaded what are your thoughs? most of my ultralight lures are in 1/16 to 1/8 oz size but will pick up more.
I've currently got the Soloking Acura on an Ace Hawk CU Double. Haven't tried the Wing. The Venom was too delicate for me. AFTER this video, i broke two of them (maybe the second one was after this - been a while). Line plan sound good. Acura casts great even on the deeper spool as long as you don't pack it full. I think i had 70-75 yds of 6 lb J-braid on mine. Will be putting some Sunline Siglon 8# on it in the Next week or two.
I have all these rods and thank you for recomending the Obsession brand about a year ago. I have been very pleased with mine. I agree with all your comments except for the Teton 662 L. Mine is strongly in the parabolic range.
Yeah, maybe I had a bad or mis-marked copy. I might have to give it a try in the future.
Hi, im pretty new to this type of fishing. In my country/area we have a lot of small creeks and streams. With a lake and pond here and there. Nothing really deep or open except a canal. I have fished on carp before with succes. But now i want to target pike and other predatory fish. Im not sure if there are any big pikes out here so what kind of setup should I get as a beginner? I want to try a range of bait weights.
Either somehting in the 2 to 8 gram lure capacity (1/16 to 1/4 oz rod rating), or go full-on power bfs with 5 or 6 grams to 15 gram setups (womehting rated up to 1/2 oz).
What side of the bfs reel should the handle be on? Match my spinning gear or match my baitcasters
Man, such a can of worms. First off, here in the US handle on the right - or "Right Hand" - baitcasters tend to sell 9 times better than "left handed" baitcasters. That may not be true across the board, but from the companies I've talked to, that's their numbers.
I grew up fishing spinning with the handle on the right. I guess I've always been an oddball. So switching to left-handed BC reels felt odd, but here's the main reason I prefer it: Efficiency. When you are casting, your hands are already prepared to start reeling when the lure hits the water. This translates into more casts per hour.
But more importantly, when fishing shallow water or moving water, you can control and work the bait immediately as well, especially if you are making a flat-trajectory, accurate cast. A cast where you are targeting a pocklet that you think is holding a fish. You dont waste the cast by being slow to work the lure.
That assumes you cast with your right hand. But, becasuse I fished with the rod in my left hand for nearly 50 years, I do find my instincts fighting a fish are better with a right handed reel. But I have yet to feel I lost a fish with the rod in my right hand, and defintiely know I have hooked fish when the lure hits the water because I was ready to roll.
So while I prefer left, I use both.
Can you give me a recommendation for a rod and reel in the $160 ish range to use for drop shot fishing largemouth? I’ll be using 6-8 lb test line and 1/8 -1/4 oz weights. Thank you!
I don't do a ton of drop-shotting. Spinning is probably the BEST for mroe vertical drop-shotting. But, I'd go with faster carbon for this. With Major Craft Benkei on Sale at Tackle Warehouse, I'd probably get that and the Acura Reel if I were buying a BFS combo today specfically for drop shot in that budget.
The Obsession Mojos are shown with different color options, but nothing about which rods are which colors. Is there any way of knowing which color you are getting?
It's in the lsiting - kind of. the 198 (1.98M long) models should be orange, the 213's are purple, and the 228 are blue.
Any suggestions on one piece rods in a light or medium light action I’m about to purchase the jenko double down rod 6’6
Obviously my Signature line from Kistler is pretty awesome. :) www.aaronhunt.net/recommends/kistler-bfs/
The Jenko is a decent rod. Power isn't standardized, so ML can mean a lot of different things. I think the Major Carft Benkei and Shimano Expride BFS are both available in 1 piece. After the Kistler I'd probably go Expride, then Jenko, then Benkei.
Thanks for not recommending the Tsurinoya Dragon C602UL, it is NOT an ultra light! I had a load test test done to determine speed of this casting rod. It actually fits in the Light category. The C662L is slower (softer bend) than the C602UL. I contacted Tsurinoya and provided results. They say they're within limits. Crap! Agree with commenter that the Ace Hawk CU Double much better for half the price.
Thanks for the info!
I liked the video but i get very confused by the ending. Are we talking about the highly recommended Kyuing Teton TTC-662L 2-10g? I have used it for 2 seasons as a redfin perch rod here in Sweden and my complaint is that it is too progressive and slow and have been trying to find a faster less progressive alternative. Now i don't use it for trout stream fishing, i use my Palms Egeria Native Performance, Daiwa Silver Stream Twitcher and Abu Garcia Zoom Safari for that .... but honestly i feel that the TTC-662L would suit me better as an area trout rod than bass/perch rod.
That's the one. Maybe some variability in the manufacturing process? Mine was anything but progressive!
I was very disappointed and also confised on how so many people could recommend that rod - or even like it!
What budget rod for fast or extra fast action about 100€
@@olivierthiriau6674 COuldn't tell you because if I see XF I won't buy it... - not the kind of rods that suit my fishing in my expereince. Just like I said in the video.
@@AaronHuntFishing thx for all
But for jighead fishing i love it
I've see dexterity 2 ....
Bass Pro has a Crappie Maxx rod that I absolutely love! Ive been waiting on my Ace hawk venom for a month! Hate ordering from Ali Express!
Good to know! Yeah, sometimes Ali is relatively fast, and other times it's the slow boat...
Great video. Thank you so much. I’m looking at that Microlite carbon, I can’t seem to find the medium light. Any ideas if they pulled that model
It's possible, or just out of stock. Guess that's why people to these types of videos almost every year! Hopefully it comes back because I've heard good things about it.
Keying Teton use to be like $40! I think as of 2024 it’s over $100.
Wow - definitely wouldn't recommend it these days! Lol. Their green Teton started around $80 - I stopped looking at it when it hit $145...
The CU double grip looks like a big cigar. What reel possibly matches it
Beats me. I do care about aesthetics, so i guess maybe something black or gray is your best bet. Classic silver would probably work too - but I know of nothing that matches it.
@@AaronHuntFishing shenghi lingil or whatever it's called maybe.
Hey Aaron! Really helpful video! I'm looking to get into a BFS rod for trout to pair with my DWU variant. Which of the rods from this video has the fastest action vs are the most whippy? Thanks!
I don't do a lot of fast rods in general. The Ace Hawk venom fits that bill though. th-cam.com/video/YrC2wdWSj04/w-d-xo.html
The Lemoren Windshadow is the whippiest by far. th-cam.com/video/K6kDkj_tjyM/w-d-xo.html
And the Obsession trout sensation is moderate fast in my opinion. th-cam.com/video/tIc7cYLu4mA/w-d-xo.html
@@AaronHuntFishing Just ordered on! Thx!
How do you feel about the Kastking Zephyr
Not a fan of KastKing in general. The zephyr had a lot of quality control issues early on, so I never tried it out. Then a few other KK products had QC issues, and they started price gouging US consumers IMO, and I was done with them.
hi. Do any of these featured rods have X-Fast Action?
No. I prefer moderate to fast for finesse.
I have the bass pro graphite rod in 6 foot and is a good bfs bass rod for the money
Good to hear! Seemed like it from the specs and the reviews. Appeciate the comment. It will help others, I'm sure.
Very informative video. I have a old school eagle claw Featherlite [4ft 6]paired up with a bps finesse baitcaster spooled with 6lb mono,been using for over 20 years,looking to upgrade.
Someone who knows the rod I was referencing! Depends on the lure range and the type of fish you're looking to target. But that BPS Finesse is probably the Pro-Lite or Extreme? Tech has come a long way. But the old gear well taken care of still catches fish!
@@AaronHuntFishing I use one of the PRO lites on the ec and another on a Allstar 6 ft light rod for small jerkbaits, the Extreme Is on a 7/6 Extreme Popping rod which I use for finesse jigs and crankbaits ,caught my pb a estimate 7or 8lb on the 7/6using a 1/4OZ shallow crankbait.the big girls put up a heck of a fight on the light rods,I'm a bank fisherman and use light tackle 90 percent of the time,
@@gregchilders7643 Old school finesse. I love it.
That BPS rod is a very good 60 buck rod.
Good to hear - it looks good!
I own the CU double, and its a great rod, and the grip is great, I'd recommend it to anyone.
Awesome. Appreciate the info, and I’m sure it will help others. Thanks!
Is it really that good of a rod? I was thinking about maybe the Dobyn sierra series bfs or the phenix classics bfs rod which is 200$. But if I’m fish for bluegills and crappie. I just don’t think I need to be spending that kind of money on a rod. What you think?
Heyyy we have the same local bass pro lol.
Cool.
Good to know😉 big temptation 😅
Maybe the downside of these kinds of videos. Appreciate your support my friend!
love the recommendations in this video. had to ask being you use alot of different bfs reels and rods whats your opinion on the daiwa alphas air tw as i just ordered one yesterday and was curious to hear your thoughts
I'm probably not the best to ask -it's about my least favorite reel. Here was my long term review: th-cam.com/video/Pp9wJcrCfqM/w-d-xo.html
BUT, a lot of people really like it it. It's defintiely a great starting place, and if it works for you, awesome. MAYBE i had a bad copy. I do love the Daiwa Gekkabijin and Silver Creek. Also plan on buying a Steez at some point.
Alphas Air Tw is a great reel . I got 2 of them and also own the Gekkabijin Air tw and the Silver Creek Air Tw . Its a brilliant reel and i use mine regularly . It sits in the middle of the other too for me . A good all rounder . I like the fact that it doesnt have a clicky drag too . Ultimate in BFS stealth .
@@elwooddestiny11blues20 Thanks for your experience. Alot of folks love that reel.
I have the curado bfs and alphas air tw.
Both reels are just awesome paired with my dobyns sierra ultra No regret’s with these purchases.
@@Swervingirv95 Also great to hear. Appreciate your perspective.
I appreciate you giving these reviews
Thanks for the comment - there are just so many rods out there I try to share my expereinces to help out.
Thank you for the review!!!
My pleasure. thank you for the comment!
Thank you very much
You are welcome. Thank you for taking the time to comment!
with the window shadow can It handle micro Neds or micro chatter baits
Up to about 5 grams max. So they gotta be really micro.
Regular action is key for BFS. Saying « it’s a good BFS rod » without speaking of actions sends me nowhere.
Appreciate the feedback.
Who is James? What's his channel? I'm interested in these AliExpress rods and others found in Amazon that you don't normally hear about.
He doesn't have a channel - just a subscriber from Australia who provides some good feedback periodically! Check out the BFS Finesse FIshing group on facebook. It's run by Adrian from the Constant Angler Channel: facebook.com/groups/2925161927747288
@@AaronHuntFishing I have just started to follow the constant anger. There's another guy from Australia too but I'll have to go find it and text it when I do.
Love your videos and the other stuff guys cuz y'all be like BFS underground 😆
What is this 11. 11 sale
Annual sale on Aliexpress in november Started around November 2 last year. Kind of Like Amazon Prime Day, or Black Friday Sales, just on Aliexpress.
@@AaronHuntFishing thanks for answering Aaron I'm new to the bfs and want a decent rod
@@hunter5858 So many good options. just think about your intended species and how you like to fish and match up one of the more popular ones. Enjoy.