I disagree. I understand why people can't afford luxury watches and buy homages but there is more to it than that. Sometimes watches have stories and history. Does the conversation you have with the guy gonna be how omega had a good design so pagani made a cheap copy of it so thats why you got it or is it gonna be about how Omega partnered with swatch to make an affordable alternative with fun swatch colors and how there was a huge craze in the watch industry over it. Lets be honest, you didn't buy the pagani design for the "excellent" quality anyways.
@@wallytuber I would agree about the swatch omega moon swatch if it was offered more locations. The problem is everywhere I am close to is not an authorized dealer, so I have to buy it secondhand, and the secondhand Moonswatch right now is almost triple what it retails. So I’m gonna wait, and I’ll buy it at a premium but it ain’t worth that much. So that argument, I still think the Pagani design is better
@@wallytuber Hi, Wallytuber. I certainly understand your points regarding the cool collaboration between Omega and Swatch and the inherent history on the Omega side regarding the Speedmaster. However, objectively speaking, the MoonSwatch is literally the cheap copy of the Speedmaster: cheap Ronda chrono movement, cheap plastic case/caseback, cheap plastic crystal, cheap Velcro strap vs Pagani Design’s Seiko mechaquartz chrono movement, stainless steel case/crown/caseback, sapphire crystal, and stainless steel bracelet/clasp with solid links/end links. The only objectively cheap aspect of the Pagani Design is the price ($80) vs the MoonSwatch ($280). All that said, I still wouldn’t mind owning the MoonSwatch as well 👍😁
With the Omega you’re paying for the branding, history, and bragging rights. The Pagani overall is a much better watch, it’s more durable and reliable while having similar look and feel for a price most people can afford.
The og Omega should have the better reliability if you don´t drop it. Mechanic watches can last longer than quartz watches that have chips and coils in it that can degrade with time.
Another commenter already said it and I agree with him too. Ironically the real Speedmaster will live way longer if maintained properly. And I am not even a big Omega fan, actually I think their Speedmaster is the only modern model that is worth owning. But let's not get... you know, over our heads. The Speedmaster has a reputation and a name for a reason. And if this was not the case you wouldn't be here praising the copy. Let that sink in.
@@stormrider01Then let's consider servicing, which can cost up to a 1000 dollars. If a quartz dies, the movement is swapped for less than 200 dollars, and it will last another 20-30 years.
Who is really copying who ? Everyone - every designer - every Musician - Every & I mean every Watchmaker takes inspiration ( copies to some degree ) from others ! Thats a fact ! As long as anything isn't 100% copied & branded as such , then go for it & who cares what any snob says . 😅
Omega Speedmaster is one of masterpiece in Horology. And Pagani Design is very good homage watch maker for someone who doesn't afford buying the original, or for someone who doesnt want to pay more for original. And for someone doesn't care the brand or history , simply cause love the dssign fashion look.
I have the Pagani homage for at least 5 months now and i love it! No way can I buy a 6K dollar omega! I’m also a very middle class citizen of the world. Cheers!
Nice Comparison, Chase. the V3 of the pagani design has switched to White hands and Printed indices, so that should help the legibility of this watch. i've got it coming to the channel soon.
Got the Pagani Design v3 version (white hands) and I'm very surprised how much I liked the aesthetics. When I look at the Omega Speedmaster, I could appreciate the history behind it, but I could never get the design. But after getting Pagani, I finally get it. And if I had the money and opportunity, I'd get a Omega.
I love the speedmaster because of its history too, I mean it looks classic but it looks like any other chrono watches too until I bought myself a PD-1701 homage, I understood why the speedmaster got famous and understood the simplicity of white dials on black watches (it is so visible even with so little light)
I didn’t realize Pagani’s homage looked so incredibly close to the vintage Omega. Even more so now that v3 has white hands. Largely based on your original review, I bought the Pagani v2 Gilt (homage to the 50th anniversary Omega). Love it. It’s been on my wrist all week. Take care, man!
Always makes me laugh when I hear people say “ it’s the watch that went to the moon “ 😂 your watch never went to the moon it’s a close copy of the ones that went to the moon, 99.9% of the people would never be able to afford one if they were put on sale by NASA. The Original Bulova moon watch sold at auction for 1.3 million US dollars. So technically your Omega Speedmaster is a Homage, Reissue, Copy or whatever you want to call it of the originals. As for the new MoonSwatch you’re better off buying a Pagani Speedmaster homage with stainless steel case, sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel, stainless steel bracelet, solid end links, milled clasp, and a Seiko VK63 MeccaQuartz movement that will last you decades rather then that disposable sealed plastic watch that cost’s 3 times the price of the Pagani Design. Example if you put a deep enough scratch on the acrylic crystal “ which is very easy to do “ you won’t be able to buff it out, and since the crystal is fused to the case you won’t be able to swap it out either, good thinking Swatch !! 😂 feel sorry for the Omega brand who most probably had no say in the decision. Great video !
I really love Omega...but couldn't afford it right now but i have a Moonswatch Mission To Mercury and that is a fragile plus hella expensive toy watch which i only wear for weekend outing. I'm gonna get one of these Pagani PD-1701 for daily beater collection and hopefully someday i'll have the money to buy the real Speedmaster Moonwatch. Why not Bulova Lunar Pilot? Naah...its too big for me.
I’ve got a 2015 Speedmaster which I paid £3,200 for and am very happy with it but I have several Pagani Design watches like the Rolex Submariner, Daytona and an Audemars Piguet Royal Oak. They are excellent value for money. A new Pagani Breitling I’m told has come out so will check that out for sure.
I don't follow homages but being honest, i like the sub-dials on Pagani a bit better. Waiting to see if they'll release a homage to the Speedmaster Reduced, the best Speedy dial in my opinion but now discontinued, expensive, hard to find brand-new and with some unimpressive specifications for a chronograph, such as acrylic crystal (?!), 30m water resistance and automatic-only movement. A chinese homage of quality would probably pack a Seiko quartz (to which i'm fine with) but superior elements compared to those i mentioned.
I don't feel so bad about buying this homage when the moonswatch is essentially a homage in the sense that it's not the actual speedmaster, even if it's still by omega
I think of the Moonswatch more of a licensed homage from Swatch more than 'by Omega'. I think they essentially licensed the use of the Omega name and design, but that is pretty much were any Omega-ness ends.
@@kg4gav yeah true, imo the moonswatch isn't nearly as good quality as the pagani even, all you're buying is essentially the omega branding at an even higher price lol
@@maxmccann5323 if you buy a Swatch then you get a Swatch. Swatch is known to do fashion plastic watches and that's what they delivered with the MoonSwatch. I don't get why people were expecting a cheap metal Speedmaster?
@@22Epic what do you mean? I don't think people were expecting it to be metal, but there are plenty of things that are made of plastics and don't fall apart or get scratched by the slightest touch. All I'm saying is how it's interesting that a much cheaper "knock off" is still better quality that an official product lol
Re homage vs fake, the homage may not say Rolex (or whatever) on it, but from 5' away you can't read that. And because it looks like a Sub/Speedy/Daytona whatever is why you bought it. I will guarantee if i swapped my daily wear (a Starbucks Rolex Sub) for a San Martin SN019-G no one would notice, not even my girlfriend. So, you may feel better, but in the words of Nico Leonard bullshit, there is no homage, it's a fake. You may as well buy the fake, everything about it is the same, lets say it turns out you don't like the faux rivits and the 15mm height of a Tudor, but unknown to you the San Martin homage has real rivits and is 12.6mm high. What did you learn? Nothing.
Nice video. I am great with homage watches. Peeps need to realise, they are just a watch. Fake watches need to be destroyed. Nice straps!!!!! Cheers from Atlantic Canada!!!
My honest opinion: The PD1701 is not a homage or copy - it is what the Moonswatch should have been. If Swatch&Omega had released a watch like this, in this quality, I would have run to the nearest Swatch store and gotten one. But alas, they released an overpriced plastic toy watch. And I don't pay more money for less quality.
I also find the name "Pagani Design" funny. "Pagani" means "pagans" in Italian. The term "pagan" has meanings identical to those of "heathen", which has been used in ancient and medieval times pejoratively for someone who is polytheistic, savage and not cultured. The watches from "Pagani Design" are just that, an uncultivated design steal. Chinese manufacturers don't seem to take themselves too seriously.😄
after being so disappointed in the quality of the moonswatch I sold it and bought the pagani design because it is literally better in every single way, plus it gives the middle finger to swatch for even charging 260 for their junk
The Pagani has better water resistance because of the screw down crown. The Omega doesn’t have a screw down crown. Which Omega has a good reason for not including it. Being a manual wind watch, it would be a pain to unscrew it every day or so to wind the watch. Plus the speedmaster was designed for auto racing then space. Never intended to be in water. They have the seamaster for that. Great video Mate!
A screw down crown offers almost no water resistance. A screw down crown is used for a dive watch primarily is to keep the crown from being extended accidentally while diving. Having the crown extend during a dive was potentially lethal as the watch hands could be adjusted, thus causing your dive time to be incorrect, leading to possible decompression sickness (remember dive watches were designed prior to computers, so you relied on the watch to show when you needed to begin your ascent. My Seiko 5 GMT and PRX Powermatic 80 both have hand winding capability and both are rated for 100m and have no screw down crown. If you believe a screw down crown offers leak protection, try to connect your toilet piping without any o-ring and rely simply on the threads to keep the water from leaking over the floor. It doesn't work. Be sure to have plenty of towels. In fact in every joint secured by an o-ring, water pressure is usually used to help seal the joint. This includes watch crowns where pressure is allowed to seep by the crown stem to provide sealing pressure to the o-ring. It is the outside sea pressure that actually helps seal the watch. On the moon, there is no standing water, and NASA only expected their astronauts to be in the water briefly if at all after splashdown. 50m was more than sufficient for an astronaut that might be in a life jacket on the surface of the ocean awaiting pickup by the retrieval team. 50m of water resistance was all that was necessary by NASA, so it's all that is provided by Omega.
Omega rates their water resistance to functional depths. If the watch says fifty meters it will actually be usable to a depth of fifty meters. Omega recommends having all gaskets inspected once a year if you’re going to use it in water. The water resistance of the Omega is actually probably better than the Pagani in real world application.
@@driller7714 True. But if I spent $5000 to $7000 on a watch, I'm not wearing it in the water. I'll wear a Pagani watch in the water anytime because the replacement cost is ridiculously low.
Pagani design Speedmaster🚀 😏👍 very very Beautiful!!!!!🏁
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I mean, realistically I‘d only be able to consider Moonswatch vs. Pagani Design. There‘s no way in hell I‘d spend my money on an overpriced plastic toy.
True speed will always remain a safe bet, but honestly who will wear it every day at work, on vacation, when doing DIY, sports or camping without being stressed for his watch? It is not made to be worn but to be collected. The paganie with its sapphire, water resistance, ceramic bezel and its mini 24H dial (for those who work on different schedules day and night it is useful) is really made to be worn day after day in all its activities.
Exactly. If my income were around $6 Million a year, I might be able to treat a $6000.00 watch the way I treat a $100.00 watch. But my income level is no where near that. I actually bought the PD1701 as my "beater" Bulova Lunar Pilot. My Lunar Pilot is my "work" watch and the PD1701 is the weekend watch.
I just subscribed to your channel. The point you brought up is one rarely talked about; buying a homage to see if you like it before investing in the real thing. I bought a Pagani homage to a Rolex Daytona, which I really like but is SO difficult to get. I'm glad I did, I didn't like it! The white dial has little contrast with the thin silver hands. I did the same thing with a Pagani "Speedmaster" and I really loved it. I bought an Omega. That being said, while I like the metal bracelet, I put a black fabric strap on the Pagani, which was added to the package from them. I cannot see replacing the expensive metal bracelet on the Omega with anything else, so to change things up, I we are the Pagani at different times, more like a fashion watch, or in certain areas. All of this just makes sense to me, kind of a "try before you buy" mentality. (I do wish Omega would put a discrete date window on like Pagani does.)
Thanks! Very well said. I get a lot of kick back about the idea of buying an homage first. But for the average person, spending thousands and then the honeymoon phase wears off and you’re stuck with a watch you don’t like. Thanks for subscribing!
The Chrono means the large sweeping seconds hand is usually still (if not measuring stop time), right? To run the sweep hand you need to start the function? That probably eats a lot of battery? I like the large sweeping hands..so having it still is not so nice for me.
The large sweeping secondhand is for measuring time. That’s why there’s a sub dial with a secondhand that’s always running. And when it comes to chronograph features, it doesn’t use any more battery or any more power reserve in your manual or automatic to use the function.
@@allthingsrandom8137 thank you for explanation :-) ... So in theory I can let the large sweeping hand run all the time (just for the looks) without any battery loss? Cool :)
Yo people. There is wisdom in avoiding luxury. Luxury is a myth. The law of diminishing returns says that a real speedmaster should only cost $1500. Spending $7k on a Speedy is hwy robbery. So if you are an enthusiast for the design of the Speedy, don't be afraid to enjoy an homage. If anything, the luxury companies need to learn a lesson.
Hi I just wanted to say thanks for this review. This review was the first one that I recall seeing and coming back to it has been very revealing. Because this actually compares the Pagani to the Omega (*unlike so many other videos) its been very helpful in getting my head around the complexity of comparing the two watch. I've had the Pagani now for about 4 months (and have also bought another Homage by Phylida). Not having an Omega I can't do the comparison directly, so I've been referring to Omega's website. I've come back here once or twice before buying it, but tonight wanted to see a few things again which are best seen here. You've done the best comparison between the two watches on the internet (that I've found). Its been very helpful and you cover points and present angles that literally nobody else has done. So many reviews of the Pagani are by people who seem to have no observational skill in watches, no capacity to examine and just seem to want to entertain and amuse. So Hats Off and thanks for your work.
Thanks so much! Really appropriate it. Yeah I just did the moonswatch vs the moonwatch and soon will do the moonswatch vs the Pagani Design. Great you found it informative!
@@allthingsrandom8137 hey, I've watched and commented, but I've got a suggestion for the comparison you are planning. Some shots with a still camera (with a standard or slightly telephoto lens, so not a phone) taken using a tripod and then oriented in photoshop to be "spot on" can be used to create two images for a blend and merge to explore specific aspects of the watches. For example: th-cam.com/video/YckRlrs35DE/w-d-xo.html I'm very glad that I bought the Pagani because its such a close copy (in dimensions and weight) that its enabled me to see how well the actual Omega would work for me, I better understand the differences in how the various crystals look (and the effect of various levels of AR th-cam.com/video/aN_C0-cn3jA/w-d-xo.html) and that alone is worth the purchase price. However I'm probably not going to buy the Omega as I now know that I can't wear this watch as a daily driver because its just too tiring on me (due to size, weight and my wrist size of 6.5"). I look forward to your MoonSwatch vs PD-1701 review
$600 is my current limit on how much I can spend on a watch but that can buy a much higher MSRP Swiss watch being discontinued in clearance price. I prefer homages of Swiss watches that are way outside my financial reach. Mostly but those now that I am retired. Good review of a Pagani in my collection.
you know, $600 is actually a really good number when buying watches. Homages are great, but so many other types and styles for that. Thanks for the comment!
I never understood the hype on the Omega. No automatic, no serious wr, a plastc "glass". And there are people paying 6.000 bucks ⁉ Maybe that´s the reason for NASA to search for intelligent life in outer space 🚀🚀🚀
Yeah, I don’t disagree. Some people could say that they like the nostalgia of the old vintage style watches with all the new modern technology. The issue is they don’t upgrade any of the new modern technology by using things like sapphire crystal. Some models do, but…..
My only issue with my pagani moon watch is the lug width. The watch itself looks fine but the 20mm strap looks small on my wrist. Like wearing a live strong rubber band. If there was a tapered strap option the starts off at 20mm and then tapers off to 22mm, that would be awesome
Never mind, I found out that because there is very little air or water in space the pressure is basically 0. So with that knowledge any watch can survive space or am I missing something again????
It’s not necessarily that any watch can survive in space. If I were to place a watch in a vacuum on my table, that’s not the same as traveling at 30 Gs into the atmosphere, vibrating like the largest coin operated bed in the cheapest motel, then still needing some level of sealability even in space.
Amazing how good these copies are and I love quartz, tired of always setting my watch. Oh and please have your straps taper from 20 to 16 that really adds to the comfort.
@@allthingsrandom8137 oh sweet!!! I’m looking for 20mm leather in blue and black. Wish list: Taper, not thick, and not super long. 115/75mm would be my sweet spot!! 😆
An honest question : What in Pete sakes name is the freaking deal with the “24 hr dial???. I think Seiko makes a VK-?? that calms an old pilot down. It has a proper (AND USEFUL) 12 hour totalizer. Do ANY of you guys need a dial that tells you “Hey, it is sunny outside! Ot Hey, it is night time”??? Help an old man out please. WTF with the spacewalk/spelunker dial? Comment please. A WASTE OF a sub-dial and of dial space in total when discussing dial space in general? Thanks a thought provoking subject!
What? The pagani only times for 1hr vs 13hrs. It also is not a mechanical chronograph... It's a completely different device. And how much did pagani pay for researching and designing the style of this watch? Nothing because they copied the whole thing. I'm a big fan of homage watches, but your comment makes no sense.
This "mecquartz" from Seiko is know for the accuracy and reliability. I´ve seen owners given testemonies of its accuracy. Something 15 seconds a month. One specific user, after 1 year of ownership, said that accuracy is
Humm, is a cheap watch that offers good value for money, but side by side it doesn’t look as the Speedy. I have both as you do, and Pagani have an excessive brightness and reflectivity, and text in tachymeter is quite thick. Pagani’s 1701 model has distance between the small spheres wider than the Omega, witch is typical from modern chronographs (is a Seiko movement, so the metric is fixed by them) but this small detail lets the hours marks less clear and regular (3, 6 and 9 are shorter). Also hands are thicker enough to break the visual balance with the rest of the sphere. Little details but IMHO is where the great brands make the difference… But I agree that is a good homage, the movement is reasonably good and I had no issues with springs when using the chronograph. I think the reason to not do a true waterproof watch when constructing Speedmaster is the winding mechanism. Normally is really difficult to isolate axis when winding, so for truly water sports you should build a screwed corwn or not certify the watch for them. Surely you can submerge the Speedy for s quick dive, but who knows… 😅
I got the V3 just this week. I'd happily pay an extra 50$ if they made it with a good crystal. The V3 crystal is not domed it is actually rounded like a lense. Normally watch crystals have a flat area in the middle but this does not have that. It means the dial distorts no matter which angle you look at it from. It is subtle but unfortunately with the strong reflections from any angle of light, it manages to really reduce the overall quality of the piece.
I agree with you, sometimes you fall in love with a watch at first and few months later you realize you don't like it anymore; in that sense, homages are food options to avoid getting stuck with expenses watches... Really nice leather watch bands on this video
I paid 60€ including taxes for my Pagani speedy and it's pretty sweet, maybe a few rough edges on the bracelet and for my slightly under 7 inch wrist I was barely able to get a good fit after removing all links but I like it, definitely would rather have this than a MoonSwatch considering it's actually made of metal and has a sapphire crystal instead of plastic
Pagani made the better "Moon Watch", period, point blank! Who actually needs an old style chronograph for timing anything lasting 12 hours? Never mind Omega's 12hr chronograph function, as for timing rocket burns, a few minutes is all you need in a back-up watch, if your board systems are down, like for the 14 second burn for Apollo 13! More important: The first watch exposed to real space during a Western flight was the Glycine Airman with a 24hr dial during Gemini 11. There is a simple and good reason, why various GMT 24hr watches (mainly Rolex GMT "Pepsi" and digital G-Shock) were and are still so popular with astronauts, and many carried the Rolex as a backup and wore it and still wear it INSTEAD of the Omega inside a ship. NASA should have been flogged for not requiring a 24hr dial in the space-watch competition! In space, there is no daylight, so nothing to tell you, whether it is AM or PM! Personally, while I can use AM/PM, I find it useless and often confusing in many situations. Don't even get me started on that tiny PM dot in alarm clocks! I grew up with 24hr schedules and clocks in Europe, which are ALWAYS reliably unambiguous! Omega Speedmaster has no 24hr dial. Pagani PD-1701 has a 24hr sub-dial, maybe not ideal, but better than none! For "Earth" use, Pagani has better water resistance, a watch geek can probably "upgrade" to a plastic crystal if wanted, and my own Seiko/TMI VK63 in the "Paul Newman" PD-1676 (practically the same watch) is so far ridiculously accurate at gaining less than a second a month (try that with that 7-thousand Dollar mechanical Omega). AliExpress has the Pagani for well under 90, typically 70 to 80 bucks with free shipping. I always wanted a Speedmaster, but when a watch costs as much as I spent on a new car not that long ago, something is whacko! For TEOTWAWKI without batteries, I have my NH35 automatics for under 100 bucks, that hold time as well as the Omega, and as long as we have batteries, the Pagani and its VK63 is the superior time-keeper. Three thousand for a used watch? NO WAY! Seven thousand for a new watch, with outdated mechanical tech bettered by any cheap 10 dollar quartz watch? NUTS!
I've no problem with homage watches, I'll never afford an Omega so that's why I bought this Pagani from AliExpress.... THEN when I win the lottery I'll buy a Rolex Daytona.
Pagani I do not know. A cheap watch every loudmouth is talking about (what is the knowledge they really have?) OMEGA Speedmaster I do know. And what I do know is that in a Marine environment the watch fails within a season. As mine did. Spending some time at a boat, the watch (Omega) stopped ticking in a couple of months. Back home it was opened and a clump of rust came out. That's reality!
The maximum differential pressure between space and the capsule is 1 atm. A 50m water resistant watch is rated to withstand a 5 atm differential. So the 50m water resistance was actually 5x the expected differential pressure that was expected. So as long as the watch survived the astronauts splashing in the water in case they had to exit the capsule and float in the ocean awaiting helicopter pickup, they were good.
I had a Daytona gave it away I’m not a the worlds biggest automatic or mechanical fan yes I get it the craftsmanship but the omega speedmaster totally catches my I just like the look of the watch not sure if I should buy one or a Paganni if you just like the look of it should you buy the homage? Or get an omega
Hi. Your watch arguments regarding a trail run are weak. By your logic a man who wants to go into horse riding should first ride a donkey to get a feel for it, or a man who wants to try sky diving should jump off of his roof to see if he can stomach it. Analogue watches are never about functionality. Cast that notion off your mind. They’re all about look and feel and that only. They’re like jewellery that one wears, and one doesn’t wear a diamond necklace because it can be functional should you ever need to cut glass, for example. Stop being so American in your approach and attaching functions to objects and instruments. Some people buy dogs, some buy Gucci or pagani, and some buy both. That’s it. Full stop.
I don’t necessarily agree with what you’re saying, because I’ve spent money on watches that I have absolutely regretted. And I’ve lost money through the transaction. I understand what you’re saying, but I don’t agree with your argument.
Great review and great explanation of homes vs luxury vs copy. I will subscribe! I just bought a Phylida speedmaster homage with a Seagull mechanical movement. I will have to check out Chase straps!
Personally I changed the bezel insert on my pagani speedy to aluminum. I like it much better like this. I agree I’m a fan of homages I ain’t got the money to enjoy all the watches I lust after.
To start, the wife and I, have pretty much that same exact dovey cover, and in the winter months, use buffalo-plaid flannel sheets, on our king-size bed...lol (that puppy has to be king-size). Sorry, I know it's completely irrelevant to the topic, but I love that thing. It's like a giant bear pelt. Prior to us picking that up, I didn't even know what a "dovey," was. 😀The PD-1701, I own, and enjoy very much. I don't think there would be a better way, of getting the feel a genuine "Speedmaster," short of purchasing one, than the PD-1701. I do appreciate your honesty, and support your cause. Not trying to be anything your not, and I respect that. Plus, I'm just across the Canadian border, right on Lake Erie. So that kinda makes us neighbors (I know, it's a stretch), either way, 1 "sub" earned. Cheers....
I found a company to out source. I have 10 different type of straps, including nato and canvas. Since I’ve built straps in the past, I was able to make sure the quality is top notch. Those will be around $40
Why not spend a little more and buy a phylida speedmaster homage, usually under $200 (not always available but does pop up from time to time). It has a decorated seagull st19 a clear case back and the same dial layout as the omega. The phylida is also available in the tintin dial, which I own.
I think most people that are into watches, care a lot about the looks, the materials and the movement. So if you can buy a watch for 120€/120$, that feels and looks a lot like "the real thing", then I think that's a pretty good deal tbh. An Omega (of course) offers you a little bit more, but it comes with a very high price. Personally I don't think it's worth the few thousand 💶💵 extra. Unless you'll see it as some kind of investment. But me personally; I don't follow that trend at all. I only buy because of personal collection reasons.
The only caveat I would add is that the new 3861 has a bit of a changed proportions here and there as the Pagani I suppose uses the previous gen's proportions. I own the 3861... Boy oh, boy what a watch. Extremely accurate (+1 sec per 24h), the new bracelet is better, although nothing to write home about and the return of the Apollo 11 dial brings back the OG Speedy.This is the best modern Omega worth owning. Might not fit anyone's taste but I love monochromatic looks so it fits my style perfectly.
Thanks to your (and a few others) recommendations, I ordered one. Super excited as I've been obsessed with moon related stuff (Hasselblad cameras and Speedmasters mainly) since childhood. Jim Lovell's actual moon watch is on display at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago, so if anyone's interested, go check that out.
The PROBLEM with video's like these is the woe is me comments like THE REAL OMEGA SPEEDMASTER is a ripoff.We all can't afford a watch you can pick up in slider new condition for $5000-$6000 depending on version.That's bull crap I would venture to guess most people in this comment section have 4 wheelers they spent more on,Full size pickups they borrowed 60k for, gun collections they have thousands into and wife's jewelry they have spent more on.These comments just show you have no REAL APPRECIATION for the authentic and the history and thought that went into the original and convince no one that's in the know a $93 watch can in anyway compete with thee ORIGINAL!!!!!!
It’s a shot in the dark. I’d rather spend a little more for a Pagani design or San Martin. They have been known to lie about stainless steel cases that are really chromed brass
I really like your videos. Is it considered original in itself, and do you agree with me? Can I get it so I can add it to my collection because it is a fairly new brand? Thank you very much
*Ceramic Bezel.
Sorry for the mistake in the video!
no need to be sorry, great video mate
bezel "insert" ????
If they did not have that stupid logo and name of thier brand. :)
The Pagani is the MoonSwatch you should really get. Less than half the price and its available!
Completely agree
I disagree. I understand why people can't afford luxury watches and buy homages but there is more to it than that. Sometimes watches have stories and history. Does the conversation you have with the guy gonna be how omega had a good design so pagani made a cheap copy of it so thats why you got it or is it gonna be about how Omega partnered with swatch to make an affordable alternative with fun swatch colors and how there was a huge craze in the watch industry over it. Lets be honest, you didn't buy the pagani design for the "excellent" quality anyways.
definitely. the Pagani Design Speedmaster is a nice watch on it's own.
@@wallytuber I would agree about the swatch omega moon swatch if it was offered more locations. The problem is everywhere I am close to is not an authorized dealer, so I have to buy it secondhand, and the secondhand Moonswatch right now is almost triple what it retails. So I’m gonna wait, and I’ll buy it at a premium but it ain’t worth that much. So that argument, I still think the Pagani design is better
@@wallytuber Hi, Wallytuber. I certainly understand your points regarding the cool collaboration between Omega and Swatch and the inherent history on the Omega side regarding the Speedmaster. However, objectively speaking, the MoonSwatch is literally the cheap copy of the Speedmaster: cheap Ronda chrono movement, cheap plastic case/caseback, cheap plastic crystal, cheap Velcro strap vs Pagani Design’s Seiko mechaquartz chrono movement, stainless steel case/crown/caseback, sapphire crystal, and stainless steel bracelet/clasp with solid links/end links. The only objectively cheap aspect of the Pagani Design is the price ($80) vs the MoonSwatch ($280). All that said, I still wouldn’t mind owning the MoonSwatch as well 👍😁
With the Omega you’re paying for the branding, history, and bragging rights. The Pagani overall is a much better watch, it’s more durable and reliable while having similar look and feel for a price most people can afford.
Agreed.
You have to pay for the advertising on the Omega.
The og Omega should have the better reliability if you don´t drop it. Mechanic watches can last longer than quartz watches that have chips and coils in it that can degrade with time.
Another commenter already said it and I agree with him too. Ironically the real Speedmaster will live way longer if maintained properly. And I am not even a big Omega fan, actually I think their Speedmaster is the only modern model that is worth owning. But let's not get... you know, over our heads. The Speedmaster has a reputation and a name for a reason. And if this was not the case you wouldn't be here praising the copy. Let that sink in.
@@stormrider01Then let's consider servicing, which can cost up to a 1000 dollars. If a quartz dies, the movement is swapped for less than 200 dollars, and it will last another 20-30 years.
Who is really copying who ? Everyone - every designer - every Musician - Every & I mean every Watchmaker takes inspiration ( copies to some degree ) from others ! Thats a fact ! As long as anything isn't 100% copied & branded as such , then go for it & who cares what any snob says . 😅
Omega Speedmaster is one of masterpiece in Horology. And Pagani Design is very good homage watch maker for someone who doesn't afford buying the original, or for someone who doesnt want to pay more for original. And for someone doesn't care the brand or history , simply cause love the dssign fashion look.
I have the Pagani homage for at least 5 months now and i love it! No way can I buy a 6K dollar omega! I’m also a very middle class citizen of the world. Cheers!
Thanks man, completely agree!
Even if u weren't is it logical to spend that much money on a...... watch?!
@@hircine92h 😃😃
Nice Comparison, Chase. the V3 of the pagani design has switched to White hands and Printed indices, so that should help the legibility of this watch. i've got it coming to the channel soon.
Look forward to it
I love Pagani Designs. I need to have all the different homage models in my watch box collection. They are very worth as collection .
Agreed
Got the Pagani Design v3 version (white hands) and I'm very surprised how much I liked the aesthetics. When I look at the Omega Speedmaster, I could appreciate the history behind it, but I could never get the design. But after getting Pagani, I finally get it. And if I had the money and opportunity, I'd get a Omega.
I love the speedmaster because of its history too, I mean it looks classic but it looks like any other chrono watches too
until I bought myself a PD-1701 homage, I understood why the speedmaster got famous and understood the simplicity of white dials on black watches (it is so visible even with so little light)
I love my Pagani. Sapphire crystal and ceramic bezel. How can you go wrong. You can't beat a Seiko Mechaquartz.
You are 100% right
I didn’t realize Pagani’s homage looked so incredibly close to the vintage Omega. Even more so now that v3 has white hands. Largely based on your original review, I bought the Pagani v2 Gilt (homage to the 50th anniversary Omega). Love it. It’s been on my wrist all week. Take care, man!
Always makes me laugh when I hear people say “ it’s the watch that went to the moon “ 😂 your watch never went to the moon it’s a close copy of the ones that went to the moon, 99.9% of the people would never be able to afford one if they were put on sale by NASA. The Original Bulova moon watch sold at auction for 1.3 million US dollars. So technically your Omega Speedmaster is a Homage, Reissue, Copy or whatever you want to call it of the originals.
As for the new MoonSwatch you’re better off buying a Pagani Speedmaster homage with stainless steel case, sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel, stainless steel bracelet, solid end links, milled clasp, and a Seiko VK63 MeccaQuartz movement that will last you decades rather then that disposable sealed plastic watch that cost’s 3 times the price of the Pagani Design. Example if you put a deep enough scratch on the acrylic crystal “ which is very easy to do “ you won’t be able to buff it out, and since the crystal is fused to the case you won’t be able to swap it out either, good thinking Swatch !! 😂 feel sorry for the Omega brand who most probably had no say in the decision.
Great video !
Ok, I can’t argue with anything you say
Some people say no one went to the moon so there is also that 😅
Exactly my thoughts.
@@yusufbest4475 Yes, conspiracy theorists that probably believe that the earth is flat ! 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
No, but it's the watch that is flight qualified by NASA for space flights, so quite the same mate... ;)
I completely agree about homage vs replicas. But also agree about trying an homage before making the true purchase. Great vid.
I really love Omega...but couldn't afford it right now but i have a Moonswatch Mission To Mercury and that is a fragile plus hella expensive toy watch which i only wear for weekend outing. I'm gonna get one of these Pagani PD-1701 for daily beater collection and hopefully someday i'll have the money to buy the real Speedmaster Moonwatch. Why not Bulova Lunar Pilot? Naah...its too big for me.
I’ve got a 2015 Speedmaster which I paid £3,200 for and am very happy with it but I have several Pagani Design watches like the Rolex Submariner, Daytona and an Audemars Piguet Royal Oak. They are excellent value for money. A new Pagani Breitling I’m told has come out so will check that out for sure.
I don't follow homages but being honest, i like the sub-dials on Pagani a bit better. Waiting to see if they'll release a homage to the Speedmaster Reduced, the best Speedy dial in my opinion but now discontinued, expensive, hard to find brand-new and with some unimpressive specifications for a chronograph, such as acrylic crystal (?!), 30m water resistance and automatic-only movement. A chinese homage of quality would probably pack a Seiko quartz (to which i'm fine with) but superior elements compared to those i mentioned.
I don't feel so bad about buying this homage when the moonswatch is essentially a homage in the sense that it's not the actual speedmaster, even if it's still by omega
Good points
I think of the Moonswatch more of a licensed homage from Swatch more than 'by Omega'. I think they essentially licensed the use of the Omega name and design, but that is pretty much were any Omega-ness ends.
@@kg4gav yeah true, imo the moonswatch isn't nearly as good quality as the pagani even, all you're buying is essentially the omega branding at an even higher price lol
@@maxmccann5323 if you buy a Swatch then you get a Swatch. Swatch is known to do fashion plastic watches and that's what they delivered with the MoonSwatch. I don't get why people were expecting a cheap metal Speedmaster?
@@22Epic what do you mean? I don't think people were expecting it to be metal, but there are plenty of things that are made of plastics and don't fall apart or get scratched by the slightest touch. All I'm saying is how it's interesting that a much cheaper "knock off" is still better quality that an official product lol
Re homage vs fake, the homage may not say Rolex (or whatever) on it, but from 5' away you can't read that.
And because it looks like a Sub/Speedy/Daytona whatever is why you bought it.
I will guarantee if i swapped my daily wear (a Starbucks Rolex Sub) for a San Martin SN019-G no one would notice, not even my girlfriend.
So, you may feel better, but in the words of Nico Leonard bullshit, there is no homage, it's a fake.
You may as well buy the fake, everything about it is the same, lets say it turns out you don't like the faux rivits and the 15mm height of a Tudor, but unknown to you the San Martin homage has real rivits and is 12.6mm high.
What did you learn? Nothing.
Nice video. I am great with homage watches. Peeps need to realise, they are just a watch. Fake watches need to be destroyed. Nice straps!!!!! Cheers from Atlantic Canada!!!
Cheers! Always appreciate the comment
My honest opinion: The PD1701 is not a homage or copy - it is what the Moonswatch should have been.
If Swatch&Omega had released a watch like this, in this quality, I would have run to the nearest Swatch store and gotten one. But alas, they released an overpriced plastic toy watch. And I don't pay more money for less quality.
100% we’ll said and agree
I also find the name "Pagani Design" funny. "Pagani" means "pagans" in Italian. The term "pagan" has meanings identical to those of "heathen", which has been used in ancient and medieval times pejoratively for someone who is polytheistic, savage and not cultured. The watches from "Pagani Design" are just that, an uncultivated design steal. Chinese manufacturers don't seem to take themselves too seriously.😄
If not ? How can they make more profits. Still think 100 dollars watch is good and efforable
I accidentally dropped my Pagani Design PD1701, when removing it from my wrist, it fell from a considerable height and it survived unscathed.
Seriously tough watch
after being so disappointed in the quality of the moonswatch I sold it and bought the pagani design because it is literally better in every single way, plus it gives the middle finger to swatch for even charging 260 for their junk
Completely agree!
The Pagani has better water resistance because of the screw down crown. The Omega doesn’t have a screw down crown. Which Omega has a good reason for not including it. Being a manual wind watch, it would be a pain to unscrew it every day or so to wind the watch. Plus the speedmaster was designed for auto racing then space. Never intended to be in water. They have the seamaster for that. Great video Mate!
Yeah, that’s a good point with the crown being unscrewed just to wind it. I can see major wear problems in the future if it were. Thanks!
A screw down crown offers almost no water resistance. A screw down crown is used for a dive watch primarily is to keep the crown from being extended accidentally while diving. Having the crown extend during a dive was potentially lethal as the watch hands could be adjusted, thus causing your dive time to be incorrect, leading to possible decompression sickness (remember dive watches were designed prior to computers, so you relied on the watch to show when you needed to begin your ascent.
My Seiko 5 GMT and PRX Powermatic 80 both have hand winding capability and both are rated for 100m and have no screw down crown.
If you believe a screw down crown offers leak protection, try to connect your toilet piping without any o-ring and rely simply on the threads to keep the water from leaking over the floor. It doesn't work. Be sure to have plenty of towels.
In fact in every joint secured by an o-ring, water pressure is usually used to help seal the joint. This includes watch crowns where pressure is allowed to seep by the crown stem to provide sealing pressure to the o-ring. It is the outside sea pressure that actually helps seal the watch.
On the moon, there is no standing water, and NASA only expected their astronauts to be in the water briefly if at all after splashdown. 50m was more than sufficient for an astronaut that might be in a life jacket on the surface of the ocean awaiting pickup by the retrieval team.
50m of water resistance was all that was necessary by NASA, so it's all that is provided by Omega.
Omega rates their water resistance to functional depths. If the watch says fifty meters it will actually be usable to a depth of fifty meters. Omega recommends having all gaskets inspected once a year if you’re going to use it in water. The water resistance of the Omega is actually probably better than the Pagani in real world application.
@@driller7714 True. But if I spent $5000 to $7000 on a watch, I'm not wearing it in the water. I'll wear a Pagani watch in the water anytime because the replacement cost is ridiculously low.
@@williamthomas6106 Exactly
Pagani design Speedmaster🚀 😏👍 very very Beautiful!!!!!🏁
I mean, realistically I‘d only be able to consider Moonswatch vs. Pagani Design. There‘s no way in hell I‘d spend my money on an overpriced plastic toy.
Good call
True speed will always remain a safe bet, but honestly who will wear it every day at work, on vacation, when doing DIY, sports or camping without being stressed for his watch? It is not made to be worn but to be collected.
The paganie with its sapphire, water resistance, ceramic bezel and its mini 24H dial (for those who work on different schedules day and night it is useful) is really made to be worn day after day in all its activities.
Agreed
Exactly. If my income were around $6 Million a year, I might be able to treat a $6000.00 watch the way I treat a $100.00 watch. But my income level is no where near that. I actually bought the PD1701 as my "beater" Bulova Lunar Pilot. My Lunar Pilot is my "work" watch and the PD1701 is the weekend watch.
I just subscribed to your channel. The point you brought up is one rarely talked about; buying a homage to see if you like it before investing in the real thing. I bought a Pagani homage to a Rolex Daytona, which I really like but is SO difficult to get. I'm glad I did, I didn't like it! The white dial has little contrast with the thin silver hands. I did the same thing with a Pagani "Speedmaster" and I really loved it. I bought an Omega. That being said, while I like the metal bracelet, I put a black fabric strap on the Pagani, which was added to the package from them. I cannot see replacing the expensive metal bracelet on the Omega with anything else, so to change things up, I we are the Pagani at different times, more like a fashion watch, or in certain areas. All of this just makes sense to me, kind of a "try before you buy" mentality. (I do wish Omega would put a discrete date window on like Pagani does.)
Thanks! Very well said. I get a lot of kick back about the idea of buying an homage first. But for the average person, spending thousands and then the honeymoon phase wears off and you’re stuck with a watch you don’t like.
Thanks for subscribing!
The Chrono means the large sweeping seconds hand is usually still (if not measuring stop time), right? To run the sweep hand you need to start the function? That probably eats a lot of battery? I like the large sweeping hands..so having it still is not so nice for me.
The large sweeping secondhand is for measuring time. That’s why there’s a sub dial with a secondhand that’s always running. And when it comes to chronograph features, it doesn’t use any more battery or any more power reserve in your manual or automatic to use the function.
@@allthingsrandom8137 thank you for explanation :-) ... So in theory I can let the large sweeping hand run all the time (just for the looks) without any battery loss? Cool :)
I'd like to see Pagani offer a version with the Seagul mechanical movement
I agree, that would be pretty awesome
Take a look for a Philyar - it may be just what you’re looking for
@@YCymro69 Phylida ... has the ST19 which is a gorgeous looking mechanical movement.
Is it only me who thinks Pagani looks slightly better?
Yo people. There is wisdom in avoiding luxury. Luxury is a myth. The law of diminishing returns says that a real speedmaster should only cost $1500. Spending $7k on a Speedy is hwy robbery. So if you are an enthusiast for the design of the Speedy, don't be afraid to enjoy an homage. If anything, the luxury companies need to learn a lesson.
Well said. And if you want luxury, like I wanted a Cartier Santos, I bought used.. saved thousands
Hi
I just wanted to say thanks for this review. This review was the first one that I recall seeing and coming back to it has been very revealing. Because this actually compares the Pagani to the Omega (*unlike so many other videos) its been very helpful in getting my head around the complexity of comparing the two watch. I've had the Pagani now for about 4 months (and have also bought another Homage by Phylida). Not having an Omega I can't do the comparison directly, so I've been referring to Omega's website. I've come back here once or twice before buying it, but tonight wanted to see a few things again which are best seen here.
You've done the best comparison between the two watches on the internet (that I've found). Its been very helpful and you cover points and present angles that literally nobody else has done.
So many reviews of the Pagani are by people who seem to have no observational skill in watches, no capacity to examine and just seem to want to entertain and amuse.
So Hats Off and thanks for your work.
Thanks so much! Really appropriate it. Yeah I just did the moonswatch vs the moonwatch and soon will do the moonswatch vs the Pagani Design.
Great you found it informative!
@@allthingsrandom8137 hey, I've watched and commented, but I've got a suggestion for the comparison you are planning. Some shots with a still camera (with a standard or slightly telephoto lens, so not a phone) taken using a tripod and then oriented in photoshop to be "spot on" can be used to create two images for a blend and merge to explore specific aspects of the watches. For example: th-cam.com/video/YckRlrs35DE/w-d-xo.html
I'm very glad that I bought the Pagani because its such a close copy (in dimensions and weight) that its enabled me to see how well the actual Omega would work for me, I better understand the differences in how the various crystals look (and the effect of various levels of AR th-cam.com/video/aN_C0-cn3jA/w-d-xo.html) and that alone is worth the purchase price.
However I'm probably not going to buy the Omega as I now know that I can't wear this watch as a daily driver because its just too tiring on me (due to size, weight and my wrist size of 6.5").
I look forward to your MoonSwatch vs PD-1701 review
I doubt the advertised water resistance of the Pagani Design.
In the divers, I trust. The chronographs? Well a hundred is not too bad to be out compared to thousands..
$600 is my current limit on how much I can spend on a watch but that can buy a much higher MSRP Swiss watch being discontinued in clearance price. I prefer homages of Swiss watches that are way outside my financial reach. Mostly but those now that I am retired. Good review of a Pagani in my collection.
you know, $600 is actually a really good number when buying watches. Homages are great, but so many other types and styles for that. Thanks for the comment!
I never understood the hype on the Omega. No automatic, no serious wr, a plastc "glass". And there are people paying 6.000 bucks ⁉ Maybe that´s the reason for NASA to search for intelligent life in outer space 🚀🚀🚀
Yeah, I don’t disagree. Some people could say that they like the nostalgia of the old vintage style watches with all the new modern technology. The issue is they don’t upgrade any of the new modern technology by using things like sapphire crystal. Some models do, but…..
My only issue with my pagani moon watch is the lug width.
The watch itself looks fine but the 20mm strap looks small on my wrist. Like wearing a live strong rubber band.
If there was a tapered strap option the starts off at 20mm and then tapers off to 22mm, that would be awesome
Never mind, I found out that because there is very little air or water in space the pressure is basically 0. So with that knowledge any watch can survive space or am I missing something again????
It’s not necessarily that any watch can survive in space. If I were to place a watch in a vacuum on my table, that’s not the same as traveling at 30 Gs into the atmosphere, vibrating like the largest coin operated bed in the cheapest motel, then still needing some level of sealability even in space.
Ceramic bezel?
Amazing how good these copies are and I love quartz, tired of always setting my watch. Oh and please have your straps taper from 20 to 16 that really adds to the comfort.
The highest quality one right now that’s “coming soon” is just that
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@@allthingsrandom8137 oh sweet!!! I’m looking for 20mm leather in blue and black. Wish list: Taper, not thick, and not super long. 115/75mm would be my sweet spot!! 😆
Dude, when you said "sapphire bezel" the first time, I passed it off as a simple misspeak, but you said it twice. It's a ceramic bezel, not sapphire.
God! 🤦
You’re right! No idea why I kept saying it. I knew it was ceramic.
An honest question : What in Pete sakes name is the freaking deal with the “24 hr dial???. I think Seiko makes a VK-?? that calms an old pilot down. It has a proper (AND USEFUL) 12 hour totalizer. Do ANY of you guys need a dial that tells you “Hey, it is sunny outside! Ot Hey, it is night time”??? Help an old man out please. WTF with the spacewalk/spelunker dial? Comment please. A WASTE OF a sub-dial and of dial space in total when discussing dial space in general? Thanks a thought provoking subject!
I completely agree, I only think it’s there just to add symmetry to the dial itself. It’s completely useless.
Thank you! Maybe enough pilots will chime in to get somebody to wake TFU and reclaim a useful tool for a tool watch.
The Pagani design is a better watch. If Pagani can make the watch for $100, it shows Omega is overcharging.
What? The pagani only times for 1hr vs 13hrs. It also is not a mechanical chronograph... It's a completely different device. And how much did pagani pay for researching and designing the style of this watch? Nothing because they copied the whole thing.
I'm a big fan of homage watches, but your comment makes no sense.
This "mecquartz" from Seiko is know for the accuracy and reliability. I´ve seen owners given testemonies of its accuracy. Something 15 seconds a month. One specific user, after 1 year of ownership, said that accuracy is
Really good points in this one
Humm, is a cheap watch that offers good value for money, but side by side it doesn’t look as the Speedy.
I have both as you do, and Pagani have an excessive brightness and reflectivity, and text in tachymeter is quite thick.
Pagani’s 1701 model has distance between the small spheres wider than the Omega, witch is typical from modern chronographs (is a Seiko movement, so the metric is fixed by them) but this small detail lets the hours marks less clear and regular (3, 6 and 9 are shorter).
Also hands are thicker enough to break the visual balance with the rest of the sphere.
Little details but IMHO is where the great brands make the difference…
But I agree that is a good homage, the movement is reasonably good and I had no issues with springs when using the chronograph.
I think the reason to not do a true waterproof watch when constructing Speedmaster is the winding mechanism.
Normally is really difficult to isolate axis when winding, so for truly water sports you should build a screwed corwn or not certify the watch for them.
Surely you can submerge the Speedy for s quick dive, but who knows… 😅
Glad to hear your points. Thanks for stopping in. Definitely agree with you
Don’t forget how much bigger the rehaut is
I got the V3 just this week. I'd happily pay an extra 50$ if they made it with a good crystal. The V3 crystal is not domed it is actually rounded like a lense. Normally watch crystals have a flat area in the middle but this does not have that. It means the dial distorts no matter which angle you look at it from. It is subtle but unfortunately with the strong reflections from any angle of light, it manages to really reduce the overall quality of the piece.
Sorry to hear that, honestly I don’t mind the dial distortions like that, but only on true vintage looking pieces
have a look at the Omega sapphire before you get too concerned, its basically the same. There are materials reasons why this is like this.
Maybe you could show a pagani on a nato watch. If it does look good.
I agree with you, sometimes you fall in love with a watch at first and few months later you realize you don't like it anymore; in that sense, homages are food options to avoid getting stuck with expenses watches...
Really nice leather watch bands on this video
2:22 some thing like a saphire bezel...that's something new
I paid 60€ including taxes for my Pagani speedy and it's pretty sweet, maybe a few rough edges on the bracelet and for my slightly under 7 inch wrist I was barely able to get a good fit after removing all links but I like it, definitely would rather have this than a MoonSwatch considering it's actually made of metal and has a sapphire crystal instead of plastic
Pagani made the better "Moon Watch", period, point blank!
Who actually needs an old style chronograph for timing anything lasting 12 hours?
Never mind Omega's 12hr chronograph function, as for timing rocket burns, a few minutes is all you need in a back-up watch, if your board systems are down, like for the 14 second burn for Apollo 13!
More important: The first watch exposed to real space during a Western flight was the Glycine Airman with a 24hr dial during Gemini 11.
There is a simple and good reason, why various GMT 24hr watches (mainly Rolex GMT "Pepsi" and digital G-Shock) were and are still so popular with astronauts, and many carried the Rolex as a backup and wore it and still wear it INSTEAD of the Omega inside a ship.
NASA should have been flogged for not requiring a 24hr dial in the space-watch competition! In space, there is no daylight, so nothing to tell you, whether it is AM or PM!
Personally, while I can use AM/PM, I find it useless and often confusing in many situations. Don't even get me started on that tiny PM dot in alarm clocks! I grew up with 24hr schedules and clocks in Europe, which are ALWAYS reliably unambiguous!
Omega Speedmaster has no 24hr dial.
Pagani PD-1701 has a 24hr sub-dial, maybe not ideal, but better than none!
For "Earth" use, Pagani has better water resistance, a watch geek can probably "upgrade" to a plastic crystal if wanted, and my own Seiko/TMI VK63 in the "Paul Newman" PD-1676 (practically the same watch) is so far ridiculously accurate at gaining less than a second a month (try that with that 7-thousand Dollar mechanical Omega).
AliExpress has the Pagani for well under 90, typically 70 to 80 bucks with free shipping.
I always wanted a Speedmaster, but when a watch costs as much as I spent on a new car not that long ago, something is whacko!
For TEOTWAWKI without batteries, I have my NH35 automatics for under 100 bucks, that hold time as well as the Omega, and as long as we have batteries, the Pagani and its VK63 is the superior time-keeper.
Three thousand for a used watch? NO WAY!
Seven thousand for a new watch, with outdated mechanical tech bettered by any cheap 10 dollar quartz watch? NUTS!
I've no problem with homage watches, I'll never afford an Omega so that's why I bought this Pagani from AliExpress.... THEN when I win the lottery I'll buy a Rolex Daytona.
Pagani MoonWatch 10 times Better the Swatch moon watch cheap toy watch******
Agreed. All I’ve heard is how cheap it feels and seems
Its 4 ticks per second and its a ceramic bezel not sapphire
Learning more everyday!
Pagani I do not know. A cheap watch every loudmouth is talking about (what is the knowledge they really have?) OMEGA Speedmaster I do know. And what I do know is that in a Marine environment the watch fails within a season. As mine did. Spending some time at a boat, the watch (Omega) stopped ticking in a couple of months. Back home it was opened and a clump of rust came out. That's reality!
My question is how did the omega survive the pressure of space with only 50 meter capability??? Or am I missing something?
The vacuum of space so, no pressure was being exerted on the wrist watch.
Theres no water in space and a watch doesn't require air. Duh!
The maximum differential pressure between space and the capsule is 1 atm. A 50m water resistant watch is rated to withstand a 5 atm differential. So the 50m water resistance was actually 5x the expected differential pressure that was expected. So as long as the watch survived the astronauts splashing in the water in case they had to exit the capsule and float in the ocean awaiting helicopter pickup, they were good.
Mi pregunta es: fueron realmente a la luna? Tengo fuertes dudas!
Would you recommend the gilt version of the pagani design during the sales period at 85 USD?
I would
Awesome... Very helpful... Thanks... How about doing the MoonSwatch "Mission to the Moon?"
Oh. You did. Awesomer.
sapphire doesn't shatter from 1-2 feet, check youtube crash test of sapphire, you crash it, you need to smash it really hard... with a hammer...
I had a Daytona gave it away I’m not a the worlds biggest automatic or mechanical fan yes I get it the craftsmanship but the omega speedmaster totally catches my I just like the look of the watch not sure if I should buy one or a Paganni if you just like the look of it should you buy the homage? Or get an omega
I’d get the Pagani first, and see if you really like it, then get the omega if you do. Then wear the Pagani as a beater watch
@@allthingsrandom8137 thank you for the advice I’m going to try that
I wear my PD Speedy when I’m out. In case I’m mugged or robbed . Omega speedy stays in the safe.
Good idea!
Hi. Your watch arguments regarding a trail run are weak. By your logic a man who wants to go into horse riding should first ride a donkey to get a feel for it, or a man who wants to try sky diving should jump off of his roof to see if he can stomach it. Analogue watches are never about functionality. Cast that notion off your mind. They’re all about look and feel and that only. They’re like jewellery that one wears, and one doesn’t wear a diamond necklace because it can be functional should you ever need to cut glass, for example. Stop being so American in your approach and attaching functions to objects and instruments. Some people buy dogs, some buy Gucci or pagani, and some buy both. That’s it. Full stop.
I don’t necessarily agree with what you’re saying, because I’ve spent money on watches that I have absolutely regretted. And I’ve lost money through the transaction. I understand what you’re saying, but I don’t agree with your argument.
Great review and great explanation of homes vs luxury vs copy. I will subscribe! I just bought a Phylida speedmaster homage with a Seagull mechanical movement. I will have to check out Chase straps!
Thanks!
Personally I changed the bezel insert on my pagani speedy to aluminum. I like it much better like this. I agree I’m a fan of homages I ain’t got the money to enjoy all the watches I lust after.
Not bad. I lean towards my Kermit over a new ceramic bezel
Your wording is wrong. Sapphire bezel? Dont you mean Ceramic bezel and sapphire crystal?
Ceramic. I did misspeak
To start, the wife and I, have pretty much that same exact dovey cover, and in the winter months, use buffalo-plaid flannel sheets, on our king-size bed...lol (that puppy has to be king-size). Sorry, I know it's completely irrelevant to the topic, but I love that thing. It's like a giant bear pelt. Prior to us picking that up, I didn't even know what a "dovey," was. 😀The PD-1701, I own, and enjoy very much. I don't think there would be a better way, of getting the feel a genuine "Speedmaster," short of purchasing one, than the PD-1701. I do appreciate your honesty, and support your cause. Not trying to be anything your not, and I respect that. Plus, I'm just across the Canadian border, right on Lake Erie. So that kinda makes us neighbors (I know, it's a stretch), either way, 1 "sub" earned. Cheers....
Really appreciate the kind words! Thank you
agree . I bought a pagani model that looks like panerai diver. its good. good to try out since its mechanical watch.
I really like those straps. Did you make them? ( the watches are nice too)
Edit: i wrote that just before you mentioned them. Lol.
I found a company to out source. I have 10 different type of straps, including nato and canvas. Since I’ve built straps in the past, I was able to make sure the quality is top notch. Those will be around $40
@@allthingsrandom8137 very cool. Can't wait to see the lineup.
Why not spend a little more and buy a phylida speedmaster homage, usually under $200 (not always available but does pop up from time to time). It has a decorated seagull st19 a clear case back and the same dial layout as the omega. The phylida is also available in the tintin dial, which I own.
That’s not a bad option, but it’s not as easily to come by as the Pagani design. Which is why that’s the one I referenced
I think most people that are into watches, care a lot about the looks, the materials and the movement. So if you can buy a watch for 120€/120$, that feels and looks a lot like "the real thing", then I think that's a pretty good deal tbh. An Omega (of course) offers you a little bit more, but it comes with a very high price. Personally I don't think it's worth the few thousand 💶💵 extra. Unless you'll see it as some kind of investment. But me personally; I don't follow that trend at all. I only buy because of personal collection reasons.
Even if you look at what the moonswatch offers for a hundred more. Far less quality, and just a name on the dial
If the Omega were only 10 times as expensive as the Pagani I would buy one. I just don't see the value in the Omega!
I’d say both omega and Rolex could drop 40% and be justified
The only caveat I would add is that the new 3861 has a bit of a changed proportions here and there as the Pagani I suppose uses the previous gen's proportions. I own the 3861... Boy oh, boy what a watch. Extremely accurate (+1 sec per 24h), the new bracelet is better, although nothing to write home about and the return of the Apollo 11 dial brings back the OG Speedy.This is the best modern Omega worth owning. Might not fit anyone's taste but I love monochromatic looks so it fits my style perfectly.
Good points
There is no comparison. You have the money you buy the real thing. You don't you buy something else. Simple.
But not everybody has the money.
Thanks to your (and a few others) recommendations, I ordered one. Super excited as I've been obsessed with moon related stuff (Hasselblad cameras and Speedmasters mainly) since childhood. Jim Lovell's actual moon watch is on display at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago, so if anyone's interested, go check that out.
That’s awesome. Thanks for the info!
The PROBLEM with video's like these is the woe is me comments like THE REAL OMEGA SPEEDMASTER is a ripoff.We all can't afford a watch you can pick up in slider new condition for $5000-$6000 depending on version.That's bull crap I would venture to guess most people in this comment section have 4 wheelers they spent more on,Full size pickups they borrowed 60k for, gun collections they have thousands into and wife's jewelry they have spent more on.These comments just show you have no REAL APPRECIATION for the authentic and the history and thought that went into the original and convince no one that's in the know a $93 watch can in anyway compete with thee ORIGINAL!!!!!!
It's easy man the Omega realized that there was no water on the moon hence low water resistance =P
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The pagani has better wet resist because they wrote 100 on it
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Informative video on these two watches. Thank you! Nicely done sir.
Thanks!
I can't get passed that the hour and minute hand look too wide to my eyes
Completely agree about tester watches that’s the first selling point I think of!
Damn😮 better WR than Omega? Yooooooooooo what the damn what
Rambles on at the end. However, an honest review👍
Hello thanks for this great comparison! What is the strap reference ?
The vintage mocha Italian leather strap is from chasestraps.com
I prefer the 60min chrono over the Omega 12 hour chrono. 12 hours is just ridiculous.
I get it
I prefer the hour elapsed subdial, over the worthless 24 hour subdial
Great content! Will look out for site for some of those nice straps - subbed and liked 👍
Quick question, are Benyar watches any good????
It’s a shot in the dark. I’d rather spend a little more for a Pagani design or San Martin. They have been known to lie about stainless steel cases that are really chromed brass
Do you suppose the lunatic will ever quit saying" Sapphire Bezel" ?
Sorry, I guess you caught that one.
@@johnsweeney5946 the “lunatic”….. ? Really. Yeah, caught it… ceramic bezel..like seven years ago
a small tip for you: when you're comparing watches, the last thing we wanna see is your face.
Wow… harsh critic.
Sorry, my style is never going to change.
@@allthingsrandom8137 i dont mind your face, at all!
@@edwinpangestu7466 thanks! Lol
Congratulations on your car.
This is the most biased review ive seen. Then goes on to strap promotion. 👎
How so? And hell yeah I’ll promote my own hard work. But how is it bias?
best review bro!! so honest and simple.. you are really explaining what many watch enthusiasts feel about homage. cheers
I really like your videos. Is it considered original in itself, and do you agree with me? Can I get it so I can add it to my collection because it is a fairly new brand? Thank you very much
The Pagani Design Speed master homage is not the watch we wanted but the watch we needed…
100% agree… especially in the time of the Moonswatch..
I find the face very hard to read and dull in certain light. By contrast I have a Bulova Moonwatch and the face is clear as day. Perfect.
Not all heroes wear capes. Thank u sir
Anytime!
Thank you. I could watch you all day. My cousin is restoring a Roadrunner. I should tell him about you.
What year??
@@allthingsrandom8137 I want to say its a 68 or 69. I just called to confirm, when i get a call back ill relay
@@allthingsrandom8137 1968
@@tmassey1465 that’s freaking sweet…
I like it !!!
I'm confused between Pagani v3 moonwatch and daytona rose gold meteriote 🙄🤔😅
Where did you bought the leather?
For my straps?
Buena reflexión
What model for the pagani?
Version 3