Stick to a hybrid stack. Instead of pads on the flight plate or rim, put them right on the crack. You're able to still have good angle control and wrist angle and power pushing on the rim. I wouldn't go 100% all rim unless you have a WIDE open fairway because of the unwanted variables that come as a result.
I've also noticed that this helps prevent me from rolling my wrist as much, so I'm more easily able to throw flip ups rather than having to chop with an overstable disc
To get my nose down, especially when I go for a higher line, I need both. I need a palm-up grip AND I need to follow through palm-down to get a powerful, negative alpha throw. Palm-forward grip gives me weak spin, early releases and a high nose angle. Played one season with that technique and I was constantly struggling with weak forehands that faded early or lifted.
I “serve the pizza” for anything under 350 feet: it works much better for getting clean releases on hyzer-flip shots or anything where max power isn’t needed. It increases the chance that all whip movement is in the same plane from elbow and out.
Thinking about going back to one finger, like Marwede, because I can bring it a good bit further back, so could be more spin generated. I suspect I’m not the only one, and that I bet a lot of middle fingers just don’t bend as far back as using index only. Curious whether you’ve tried this.
I use my index finger on the rim wall and my middle finger sits on the lower rim profile a bit like how I used to throw fast balls in baseball. Saw someone use this to get huge distance and I've been using that grip ever since. I still use the two finger grip when throwing putters or midrange forehand. I have a putter ace with the two finger grip and a driver ace with the one finger grip. Experiment, take notes and see what works for you!
Agreed this was a change I made about 6 months ago and I’ve got waaayyy more spin. I still wobble putters, so I’m guessing it’s something with my thumb but haven’t been able to identify yet
Exact same here. The original grip works great for me and I can put that on any angle I want with solid control. The other grips used and my control goes out the window.
2 paths to the same destination. Ive gotten over 400 and can hit 375 consistent with "serving the pizza". You can throw far like that so maybe go with another way to throw forhand. How fast you can snap that wrist matter alot as well.
I've thrown several shots 400-500+ without using this tip and I'm willing to try it next time I do some field work; however most of the power in a side arm has almost nothing to do with the wrist motion. If you aren't engaging your hip and core in the shot then you are losing half your potential distance
@@anthony452 Go throw a side arm with your hips facing forward and whatever wrist action you want. Then compare it to a throw where your hips start min 90 degrees and end up turning through the shot to face forward again. Then come back and tell me the results. The power comes from your body, not your arm and wrist. The only thing wrist does in this situation is adjust the spin your disc can have. Still important to a degree, but not where the real power of a throw comes from.
@ComboJoe84 I didn't say hips had nothing to do with it. I was chuckling at the claim the wrist has nothing to do with power or distance. Best example..I could stand exactly how you just mentioned and get differing distances based on wrist action.
Throwing the pizza is first step to building a flat throw. So you can build on better wrist control. People who have been playing for a while. Stop telling new people not build proper form first.
idk I feel like a lot of throwing is developing your own style that is comfortable to you as an individual. Me personally, I stack my fingers the first way (the way he tells you not to do) and get more power and distance than, "the proper way". Don't forget whether its backhand or forehand the power generates from the legs into the hips then arm speed and snap at the end. just my .02 cheers
@@kingquesoIV I've been throwing for quite a few years now, I think I know what technique is more comfortable and works better for me as an individual. Imagine that. Or is that hard?
I serve the pizza for approach shots, but then again I am one of the few people I know that can side arm a putter, my drive is what you are talking about. At least when Scott Stokely did this video he said," I'm not saying to stop throwing approach shots this way."
great video, you just taught me how to forehand finally. i was sliding off the side of the finger and not the pads of them for so long wondering why i wasnt getting much spin.
What you're teaching in this video is how you should be throwing an ultimate disc to begin with. The bigger reason people don't throw far with fore hand is using too much arm and not enough hips and wrist.
I’ve only heard this kind of advice from people at this golf courses or at disc shops. It’s more of an old-school way of throwing for hand. Personally, I can’t do the sacked grip. Serving the pizza for me works a lot better. For whatever reason when I try to do the stat grip, I lose all control of where the disk goes and it wobbles. I’m sure there’s something I could do to fix. I like having my palm up when I’m doing a forehand and I get good enough results from it.
Saw you suggest this technique a couple weeks ago and wver since I've taken your advice, I went from getting maybe 200 to 250 feet, to getting almost 100 feet more and not only that the flight path is so much more accurate!!
Do Not Listen To This If You Do Not Finish Palm Up, Serving The Pizza....You will roll your Wrist Over What You Want To Do Think About Controlling The Leading Edge Think About Throwing A Fore Hand Hyzer Flip The disc takes off on Angle Flips To Flat Glides Then Fades.... There is your Distance With more Stable Disc You Throw A Force Over Anny Release The Amount of Power and Disc Speed Determine when the Disc Stables Up Guides into a fade Ohn Scoggins Sahra Hokum As a Beginner Forehand Flick Watch Ohn Sahra and Nate Sexton When you Advance look to Eagle and Adam Hamas ... Paul McBeth and Adam are very much alike Best Advice I Can Give Go Skip Rocks On Water....that's exactly what motion and muscle memory you want I played Baseball Tennis and Golf Before ever playing Disc Golf
would love some analysis on tge relation between ultimate and golf throwing technique. Ive beem throwing tge wrong way forever, but some of the best ultimatr players suggest palm up. which one is it?
You can think of an ultimate disc being like a putter with like 9 glide, as they take about the same power to get them to spin correctly. So since the max speed you can get to is less when throwing palm up, it makes a lot more sense to use in ultimate than in disc golf. I am a forehand dominant player and I only throw shots with palm up with putters, and only on touch shots where I need a little more control to get it to curve around a tree or something
Don't bet the farm on it. You'll quickly lose confidence in putters and approach forehands. Maybe try a hybrid grip with your pads on the crack. Half plate half rim. Control plus power. You're welcome. 😀
I mean as a college pitcher I find the sides of my fingers make it go further. Went from 400 to 475 feet on my forehand switching to the sides. You do you tho!
I hate this advice. I assume it must work differently for different people but when I started doing this a couple weeks ago, my forehand got significantly worse. Then I watched a video on putting your hand palm up and how to actually hold the disc and I have a really good forehand now. Maybe it just depends on your hand and your arm. I don’t really know. But this advice held me up for a couple weeks because I could not make that forehand work. I’m going to continue serving the pizza. Mechanically for me it just works better.
You should learn both tbh. The pizza grip is very reliable and easy to learn good approaches with (even anni flex shots approaches etc. But for distance you should just throw backhand ;]
Thank you. I wanted to say this exact thing but he deleted my comment. Glad someone else has some sense. No way pros are using a power grip throwing putters and approaches. . . . not to mention, if someone is looking for max distance they should be throwing backhand. A 380 to 420ft forehand is plenty plenty plenty.
@@parks33 Yeah i throw mostly power forehands now and not the pizza. But that is because my form is smoother. But the pizza is still the champ of rounding corners on a super hyzer angle. So it's still not a bad idea but knowing where to use them and to not use the pizza grip for power is the key
That flick is for short and accurate under passes that you can release quickly in ultimate. I don't think even ultimate players will tell you to do that for longer passes.
Whenever i try this my discs turns into rollers no matter the stabilety off the disc. I think my mussle memory is to used to the serving pizza way 😅 anything other than that feels very uncomfortable. I am stuck at 325-350 feat on forehand 🤷♂️
Better to have a controlled forehand opposed to one that takes you off the fairway. Not to mention, by nature a forehand has a distance ceiling with the mechanics of it all whereas a backhand you can get distance for days. Keep the 350 forehand and let everyone else take the OB strokes 😂
Turn your fingers inward slight but not all the way to the rim. Do a hybrid with your pads on the crack. Add power while keeping control and flight plate angle. Its money.
"proper" to one player may be "improper" to another., Everyone's hands are different. Do whatever feels comfortable to you. Experiment. Practice. Observe. Ask Questions. Have Fun!!! RAS2995
You'll likely lose confidence with putters and approach discs. I'd stick to what you know if you're pushing 400. Max distance should be thrown backhand anyway wouldn't ya say? Nice work throwing 400. Thats a bomb.
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Lmao you're an idiot 😂
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HEY …. What’s the first rule about fight club??!!!
You are not your disc, you are not your f-ing khakis.
@@drecash476rules are meant to be broken
Love this. Went from 300 ft to 200 in one day
You lost 100 feet?
Stick to a hybrid stack. Instead of pads on the flight plate or rim, put them right on the crack. You're able to still have good angle control and wrist angle and power pushing on the rim. I wouldn't go 100% all rim unless you have a WIDE open fairway because of the unwanted variables that come as a result.
Everyone are different. And body weight. And hand strength
Use centripetal force not fingers to flatten. Pure hook grip hanging
I saw this in a Scott Stokely video first.
Is that a bad thing? There's about 30 professional tutorials promoting palm up. What is your problem exactly???
Who?
What a coincidence! My brother Tico works at Taco Bell
the real trick to getting distance is leading your throw with your elbow
EXACTLY! Who cars about what grip your'e using if you're not leading with the elbow. This is a golden point.
Thanks so much, I think you've just opened the door to me understanding how to get more forehand distance - much appreciated!
I've also noticed that this helps prevent me from rolling my wrist as much, so I'm more easily able to throw flip ups rather than having to chop with an overstable disc
Anyone else think Edward Norton is now doing disc golf? Lol
Ive heard that since i was 18 lol
@@IceBergTV could be worse lol... at least you have options if his career ever picks back up lol
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Revolutionized my forehand👏
the portrait video in clips cuts off the part of the screen with your fingers when you're saying "this part of the finger" 😅
Soo close 😂
It's state secret - got redacted
“You had one job!” 😂
This was extremely helpful. Thank you
The Curb stomp master himself!!!👍👍
Thanks man, one of the easiest diy videos I ever used.
To get my nose down, especially when I go for a higher line, I need both. I need a palm-up grip AND I need to follow through palm-down to get a powerful, negative alpha throw. Palm-forward grip gives me weak spin, early releases and a high nose angle. Played one season with that technique and I was constantly struggling with weak forehands that faded early or lifted.
Never played disc golf but I apply these techniques in other areas in my life ;)
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like actually serving pizza?
Great filming bub
It’s how shorts are naturally cropped. Dodo
@@kellyZ93doesn’t mean you can’t adjust the crop so you can actually see what’s going on
Scott Stokely methods being implemented far and wide. Nice!
Thanks bro !!:)
Gonna give this a try!
I “serve the pizza” for anything under 350 feet: it works much better for getting clean releases on hyzer-flip shots or anything where max power isn’t needed. It increases the chance that all whip movement is in the same plane from elbow and out.
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Thinking about going back to one finger, like Marwede, because I can bring it a good bit further back, so could be more spin generated. I suspect I’m not the only one, and that I bet a lot of middle fingers just don’t bend as far back as using index only. Curious whether you’ve tried this.
dont go back to 1 finger
one finger is fine if it works for you...quit getting advice from an am that blatantly rips off one of the best fh throwers of all time
I use my index finger on the rim wall and my middle finger sits on the lower rim profile a bit like how I used to throw fast balls in baseball. Saw someone use this to get huge distance and I've been using that grip ever since. I still use the two finger grip when throwing putters or midrange forehand. I have a putter ace with the two finger grip and a driver ace with the one finger grip. Experiment, take notes and see what works for you!
Agreed this was a change I made about 6 months ago and I’ve got waaayyy more spin. I still wobble putters, so I’m guessing it’s something with my thumb but haven’t been able to identify yet
The stacked grip is the best, most power
Thanks. I've been working on my forehand for ages. I just can't seem to get it.
I throw a 450ft fh with your 1st power grip, no control for me doing the other 3 you showed. Especially mid/upshot grip.. haha
U would be a very good pizza server. U interested?
Exact same here. The original grip works great for me and I can put that on any angle I want with solid control. The other grips used and my control goes out the window.
2 paths to the same destination. Ive gotten over 400 and can hit 375 consistent with "serving the pizza". You can throw far like that so maybe go with another way to throw forhand. How fast you can snap that wrist matter alot as well.
The same principal applies. You still serve the pizza aka release palm up. Changing grip doesn’t change that.
What part of the finger? You were outside that camera shot when you showed?
The pad of the finger
@shawnwimberly9294 ty
It depends on your hands. I stated 21 years ago with a 1 finger flick at 420'. You just need to observe different techniques for your best results
I was just happy with my forehand shot. Now I'm questioning myself
Flip’n awesome
I've thrown several shots 400-500+ without using this tip and I'm willing to try it next time I do some field work; however most of the power in a side arm has almost nothing to do with the wrist motion. If you aren't engaging your hip and core in the shot then you are losing half your potential distance
Nothing to do with wrist motion? Lol, is that 400-500 in Reddit distance?
@@anthony452 Go throw a side arm with your hips facing forward and whatever wrist action you want. Then compare it to a throw where your hips start min 90 degrees and end up turning through the shot to face forward again. Then come back and tell me the results. The power comes from your body, not your arm and wrist. The only thing wrist does in this situation is adjust the spin your disc can have. Still important to a degree, but not where the real power of a throw comes from.
@ComboJoe84 I didn't say hips had nothing to do with it. I was chuckling at the claim the wrist has nothing to do with power or distance.
Best example..I could stand exactly how you just mentioned and get differing distances based on wrist action.
@@anthony452 Ok, hold your arm perfectly still too and see how far you can get with just your wrist action. That might change 10 feet, not 100+
@ComboJoe84 ..... how far do you think you can get a disc while holding your arm perfectly still?
bruh.. gamechanger for me who cant really throw a forehand!
Better finger position means more spin. More speed too. Go long, forehanders! 😂
I serve the pizza on hyzer but flat or Annie which i prefer i roll the wrist
Throwing the pizza is first step to building a flat throw. So you can build on better wrist control. People who have been playing for a while. Stop telling new people not build proper form first.
great tip
All that extra range of motion also equals extra range for error.. sometimes it’s better to keep it simple
idk I feel like a lot of throwing is developing your own style that is comfortable to you as an individual. Me personally, I stack my fingers the first way (the way he tells you not to do) and get more power and distance than, "the proper way". Don't forget whether its backhand or forehand the power generates from the legs into the hips then arm speed and snap at the end. just my .02 cheers
Imagine how much further you’d throw if you took the time to learn proper technique. Change is hard
@@kingquesoIV I've been throwing for quite a few years now, I think I know what technique is more comfortable and works better for me as an individual. Imagine that. Or is that hard?
@@scotta5009 it’s objectively a weaker way to throw.
As a kick boxer, I find having my disc up near my fov, I can serve the pizza way father and more accurate every time, than my counterparts on the team
Why would you steal his exact lingo. Just put up a link to his video. Lame bro
We send it endzone to endzone in ultimate frisbee, saying you won’t get much distance on that is incorrect
Def Edward Nortons favorite sport.
I serve the pizza for approach shots, but then again I am one of the few people I know that can side arm a putter, my drive is what you are talking about. At least when Scott Stokely did this video he said," I'm not saying to stop throwing approach shots this way."
great video, you just taught me how to forehand finally. i was sliding off the side of the finger and not the pads of them for so long wondering why i wasnt getting much spin.
Enjoy!
What you're teaching in this video is how you should be throwing an ultimate disc to begin with. The bigger reason people don't throw far with fore hand is using too much arm and not enough hips and wrist.
Good information thanks
I always hear people say that others teach it this way, I’ve never heard a single person say to “serve the pizza”
I’ve only heard this kind of advice from people at this golf courses or at disc shops. It’s more of an old-school way of throwing for hand. Personally, I can’t do the sacked grip. Serving the pizza for me works a lot better. For whatever reason when I try to do the stat grip, I lose all control of where the disk goes and it wobbles. I’m sure there’s something I could do to fix. I like having my palm up when I’m doing a forehand and I get good enough results from it.
Saw you suggest this technique a couple weeks ago and wver since I've taken your advice, I went from getting maybe 200 to 250 feet, to getting almost 100 feet more and not only that the flight path is so much more accurate!!
You mean scott stokleys
I like this shot for shot remake
Do Not Listen To This
If You Do Not Finish Palm Up, Serving The Pizza....You will roll your Wrist Over
What You Want To Do
Think About Controlling The Leading Edge
Think About Throwing A Fore Hand Hyzer Flip
The disc takes off on Angle Flips To Flat Glides Then Fades....
There is your Distance
With more Stable Disc
You Throw A Force Over Anny Release
The Amount of Power and Disc Speed Determine when the Disc Stables Up Guides into a fade Ohn Scoggins Sahra Hokum
As a Beginner Forehand Flick
Watch Ohn Sahra and Nate Sexton
When you Advance look to Eagle and Adam Hamas ...
Paul McBeth and Adam are very much alike
Best Advice I Can Give
Go Skip Rocks On Water....that's exactly what motion and muscle memory you want
I played Baseball Tennis and Golf Before ever playing Disc Golf
would love some analysis on tge relation between ultimate and golf throwing technique. Ive beem throwing tge wrong way forever, but some of the best ultimatr players suggest palm up. which one is it?
You can think of an ultimate disc being like a putter with like 9 glide, as they take about the same power to get them to spin correctly. So since the max speed you can get to is less when throwing palm up, it makes a lot more sense to use in ultimate than in disc golf. I am a forehand dominant player and I only throw shots with palm up with putters, and only on touch shots where I need a little more control to get it to curve around a tree or something
I launch em with just my pointer under the disc, all snap of the wrist
That actually makes a lot of sense
Don't bet the farm on it. You'll quickly lose confidence in putters and approach forehands. Maybe try a hybrid grip with your pads on the crack. Half plate half rim. Control plus power. You're welcome. 😀
i use a single finger to drive and 2 fingers for approach
What weight do you throw
I mean as a college pitcher I find the sides of my fingers make it go further. Went from 400 to 475 feet on my forehand switching to the sides. You do you tho!
I do this but with only my index finger on the side of the disc. Does it serve a purpose to have middle finger and index finger?
i am wainting for trow
“That brings us from H EE REE to more of a HEEE RR.”
Scott’s the pizza guy!
I hate this advice. I assume it must work differently for different people but when I started doing this a couple weeks ago, my forehand got significantly worse. Then I watched a video on putting your hand palm up and how to actually hold the disc and I have a really good forehand now. Maybe it just depends on your hand and your arm. I don’t really know. But this advice held me up for a couple weeks because I could not make that forehand work. I’m going to continue serving the pizza. Mechanically for me it just works better.
I liked the part where he showed which part of finger needs to be inside the rim
I "serve the pizza" and still easily throw 450' sidearm. Most of the work is done by the legs, hips, and body other than just your wrist.
Not cool, why are you making exact copies from other creators' videos and dont even give them a shoutout?
This was straight from Scott Stokely.
It all depends on ones technique. What works for you, may not work for all or anyone.
Does this technique add any additional wear and tear to the shoulder or elbow? I’m almost exclusively a forehand throwe
He plays frisbee, he’s not a doctor 🤦♂️
You should learn both tbh.
The pizza grip is very reliable and easy to learn good approaches with (even anni flex shots approaches etc.
But for distance you should just throw backhand ;]
Thank you. I wanted to say this exact thing but he deleted my comment. Glad someone else has some sense. No way pros are using a power grip throwing putters and approaches. . . . not to mention, if someone is looking for max distance they should be throwing backhand. A 380 to 420ft forehand is plenty plenty plenty.
@@parks33 Yeah i throw mostly power forehands now and not the pizza. But that is because my form is smoother.
But the pizza is still the champ of rounding corners on a super hyzer angle.
So it's still not a bad idea but knowing where to use them and to not use the pizza grip for power is the key
@@NaJk93 Good points. The forehand game is an art form. Love it.
That flick is for short and accurate under passes that you can release quickly in ultimate. I don't think even ultimate players will tell you to do that for longer passes.
Whenever i try this my discs turns into rollers no matter the stabilety off the disc. I think my mussle memory is to used to the serving pizza way 😅 anything other than that feels very uncomfortable. I am stuck at 325-350 feat on forehand 🤷♂️
Your wrist is turning over, it's a constant battle I face with limited wrist mobility. Try to focus on your follow through in a field work session.
Better to have a controlled forehand opposed to one that takes you off the fairway. Not to mention, by nature a forehand has a distance ceiling with the mechanics of it all whereas a backhand you can get distance for days. Keep the 350 forehand and let everyone else take the OB strokes 😂
Can I ask.. why use the middle finger vs. the index on the edge of the disc?
To get distance i just use a backhand
Sorry which part of the finger? Camera wasn’t angled at what you were trying to show….
Ty
That's how you throw in ultimate lmao
Doesn't just look like Edward Norton but sounds like him too. Wow
This part... Which part?
I'll always let Ed Norton coach me
U dont even throw the disc!!😂😂😂 Great teacher 🤡
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he ripped the entire video from scott stokely...the dude is a weekend warrior am, likely rated 875
Disc golf instruction is still all over the place
Thanks Edward Norton.
No problem
Which part of the finger?
Sounds good Aaron kyro
Let me just steal Stokelys video. Bro is constantly doing shit like this
And he deletes comments he doesn't like. 😂
Your hand goes off screen when telling us what part of the finger needs to rest in the disc
Never ever have I heard or been told pizza.
I tried this and I still fail at throwing forehanded. I struggle with it so badly
keep going
@@rolersch7332 I do I’ve been finding that making my arm more angular before I throw help me
wonder how much ill gain this spring trying this. I've always kept palm up. imagine gaining 50-100 feet instantly
Turn your fingers inward slight but not all the way to the rim. Do a hybrid with your pads on the crack. Add power while keeping control and flight plate angle. Its money.
"proper" to one player may be "improper" to another., Everyone's hands are different. Do whatever feels comfortable to you. Experiment. Practice. Observe. Ask Questions. Have Fun!!! RAS2995
Don't ever say "stop serving pizza"!
i get 400 feet with teh regurarly grip old school, should prb try the new then
You'll likely lose confidence with putters and approach discs. I'd stick to what you know if you're pushing 400. Max distance should be thrown backhand anyway wouldn't ya say? Nice work throwing 400. Thats a bomb.
I use split finger grip unless I'm throwing my roadrunner
i never do the serve the pizza on my flicks during ultimate frisbee
Scott Stokley!!
"You want this part of the finger" which is off the screen because of a ripped video.
Bro fire the filmer lmao
Yes, so I can do a forehand throller instead of the flip up I wanted 😂
"this part of the finger-"
*Doesnt get it on frame
Watch slo mo video and your wrist doesn't even get to straight before the disc comes out