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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ย. 2023
- i love john marston almost as much as i love his wife. i hope 20 minutes is a more manageable length for you, because it was for me and that's why this video is coming out now and not next month
follow me on tiktok for more analysis in more digestible lengths
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i want to clarify, i appreciate so much u guys weren't put off by the length of the first video but my concerns about the length are more for my own sake. i made my first video so long simply because i just had that much to say! i didn't set out to make an hour video, it just ended up that way, and as i was actually filming and editing i realized that it was a lot more work than i anticipated with the length of script i wrote lol. so, I'm not saying i will NEVER upload an hour long video again, but i can't do it every time because it's hard
I think you have the right approach. These projects take allot of work life balance to come out right and you've done vary well with them so far. Do what is best for you.
Fine with me, I just like watching these like the length of a TV show, which 20 something still is!
For sure! You don’t wanna get burnt out upload what you enjoy and think you can deal with keep up the great work!❤
Honestly you are amazing at analyzing characters, and your videos do an excellent job of both entertaining and making us put a little more thought onto the fictional folk that we love so dearly. Keep up the great work miss!
Your approach, cadence, and personality truly make us eager for longer videos from you. Of course, the subject matter is what initially drew us in, but your engaging presence is what keeps us coming back. It's a testament to your exceptional scriptwriting that many, including myself, have watched your last two uploads repeatedly. Nevertheless, please set a pace that's comfortable for you, one you can maintain. Oversimplified uploads only twice a year, lol and their audience eagerly awaits each one. We're here to support and enjoy whatever content you choose to share, at whatever rate suits you best.
I have NEVER played a red dead game but the way you talk about middle aged sad rugged men is irresistible. I am thoroughly hooked
why are you watching this video, spoiling the entire game when you haven’t even played it
@@AlqhemyAmaybe they don’t want to play it
@@baiaiaamjaajka and why would that be?
@@AlqhemyA don’t ask me
play it now please
I really do love how the way John is written shows the process and growing pains of changing and how he doesn’t flip a switch to become RDR1 John
Yes he does lmao his personality is completely different
@@thehazyblobif you were an ex-outlaw and you're entire family got kidnapped and you're forced to capture or kill your form brother-in-arms AND your father figure in order to see them again and possibly have a better future...
you'd have a little bit of personality change as well. and the game was released in 2010. the story wasn't a much of a focus compared to RDR2, so having a few contradictions is understandable
@@Mewtwo_150 how does that explain his voice, vocabulary and speech being completely different. It's said in rdr that John was always one for big words, but in part two he's an idiot. And his family being kidnapped doesn't excuse bad writing.
@@thehazyblob if you seriously think using big words automatically makes you a genius
you're as dumb as Bill Williamson
this is the same man that blindly trusts anyone who promises him whatever wants as long as he does their bidding. then once his usefulness is gone to them, they promptly try to throw him away.
John's a moron, but he's one badass moron
@@thehazyblob his voice being different is because it was dialogue recorded years later and Rob is a smoker. People's vocabulary and speech DO change over the years, unless you're trying to say that you have the exact same vocabulary you've had 8 years ago. John is an idiot in BOTH games, but he's slightly wiser in the 1st one because he's a lot more cynical due to the fact that despite his best efforts to change, the world won't forgive him and it makes him incredibly angry at the world because of it.
It's not bad writing, he's just a different person in both games because the years take their toll on him.
Don't worry about making the videos "too long". Your content is top notch, and your insight is both thoughtful and humorous (which isn't easy though you make it look natural).
thank you, i appreciate that :)
@@pinkygunslingy its very good, i watched the first video and clicked on your channel for more but that was literally first video. Also i personally like long form content. Keep up the amazing work
This
@@pinkygunslingy I honestly liked the length of that previous video. It was great!
@@Twisterio2i appreciate that! it's just a LOT of work to make videos like that and i'd rather be able to be consistent and not get overwhelmed by the scale. the reason that video was so long was simply i just could not talk for any less time about it lol. i wanted to be as clear as i possibly could haha but learned while editing this was NOT a sustainable length for every single upload. hope u understand 🫶
I love this overview of the epilogue and what John's role in it was. I never realized how deep they went for the epilogue to establish John before we meet him in the first game. My favorite part that you focused and put me on was about how prideful he was and why the game has you immediately humble yourself and do some labor.
i think his pride can be really subtle or even justifiable, to a degree. i can empathize with the pride he has but i still think it was something he had to grow from for the betterment of himself and his relationships.
he got downgraded
He isnt deep , epilogue John is just a empty shell from his rdr 1 OG John , in epilogue he doesnt have that charisma , like being sarcastic , being confident , or the Dutch's teachings from young age , in epilogue he barely can get words out of his mouth without stuttering , also the way he acts like Sadie's errand boy out of character , he is the guy who dont take shit from no one , but in rdr 2 epilogue he always take orders from someone , his ruthless combat dialogue from rdr 1 is something else , you just need to hear it yourself , he is a menace in rdr 1 , epilogue john is not a character development , its just they gave traits to arthur and other characters and made him look dumb and forget about him totally
@@labelnine no no, epilogue John is good
Abigail gets so much undeserved hatred from some fans, yet, all the points she makes are totally valid and I feel you did an amazing job exposing those points and explaining them. Come to think of it, she's an absolute saint for putting up with him for that long lol. I used to dislike the epilogue (not really dislike, but not love as much as Arthur's part) but seeing John evolving as a person and starting, for real this time, his path towards redemption is a marvelously crafted gift by rockstar towards long time red dead fans.
Abigail may have been the actual rat
@@yo-sefakimbey7009How is she the rat?
@@lucass430 th-cam.com/video/SyyRdtIfo2M/w-d-xo.htmlsi=BGbJrXTKNKnvMNX5
There’s no undeserved hate, maybe overhated but def no undeserved
“There are tears streaming down my face, I am shell of the person I was before I started the game”
The ideal Red Dead Redemption 2 play through
Whats really sad about John is he made the attempt to leave behind his run and gun lifestyle, and he did for a while, but his ties to that past unfortunately sent him back into it, no matter how much he changed he couldn't escape the consequences of being an infamous outlaw in the most infamous gang, the same is true of Abigail and Jack. Even if he became a raw pacifist the moment he fled the gangs breakup it wouldn't have mattered, and it's not really his fault either, he's part of the old world, and the world is changing, there's no room for men like John anymore,even though John changed, end of RDR1 Dutch was letting John know that at his last moment, he realized he can't escape fate. Their destiny was set in stone the moment they followed Dutch when they were younger.
Like John said himself "People don't forget, nothing is forgiven"
It's very nice to see creative voices making red dead content instead of just misogynistic men, you're a breath of fresh air really
You sound hurt , u okay?
"Misogynistic" , another feministic crappy girls from tik-tok blaming men on your own problems ...
???? What the hell are you talking about
the low honor sound being used a censor is a nice touch, great video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thank u i am glad someone appreciated that bc i was proud of it lol
John’s the kind of role model a lot of dudes need. Shows them it’s okay to grow into being a cool guy.
he didnt grow he was downgraded
I take rdr 1 OG John Marston , rdr 2 epilogue john is just plain empty and has little development
@@DeadXogHe went from being a careless violent idiot to being a family man who was mature, but still capable of aggression if absolutely necessary, as we see later in the Epilogue and in RDR1. So I have to disagree, there, he definitely grew.
@@FlyingAlfredoSaucer it was already established how he was in rdr1 lol but bad father to good father was development you
Clearly didn’t understand my comment lol
His personality and charisma was downgraded and given to Arthur lol
@@DeadXog Oh I see. Yeah I think I did misunderstand your comment, I thought you were saying his character got worse in-universe chronologically, not between games. Yeah you are right though, that as a character he is a more interesting and entertaining protagonist in the first game.
I don’t want to be too over dramatic but this is the best Red Dead video on all of TH-cam tbh.
For real tho like Arthur gets a lot of love (rightfully so, don’t get me wrong) but it’s really nice to see someone talk more about just how complicated and fleshed out John’s character arc is.
I feel the proposal and wedding is what Arthur's sacrifice was about. He didn't stay on that mountain holding off the pinkertons JUST so John can survive, no, he stayed behind so John can LIVE! That's what it was all about, even before this point that's what the stated goal of the gang was. I always remember that talk before they go to Six Point Cabin when talking about the differences between the VDL Gang and the O'driscolls John's main distinction is that the O'driscolls are only trying to survive, while the Van Der Linde's are trying to live, free! And now he and his family at least can, because of an act of love from Arthur. I know that John going after Micah is eventually what ruins him, what leads to RDR1 but i cant blame John. If i had someone like Arthur, someone who did everything he could with his dying breaths to make sure I can live a life I wasnt able to before, Id want revenge for him too.
I'll always tear up during Arthur's final moments, but the real sobbing is during the proposal and wedding, its what all that struggle was about, just those two beautiful moments
It's almost 4 AM where I live, but I saw this before sleeping and I just had to watch. Great follow-up, it made me go thru the emotions I felt for John as the epilogue unfolded. The epilogue shows how Dutch and Hosea's parenting on John made him ill-equipped to a world outside the gang and a society thats more hostile to outlaws. The world they raised him in also really stunted his growth, which we've seen glimpses of in Chapters 1 & 2 thru Arthur's. I like how you went through John and Abigail's perspectives and traced John's growth until he realized he had to truly go all-in on his family.
Another banger. I feel like I’m the only one who enjoys playing epilogue part 1 hahah. There was so much fighting between John and Abigail in the main game, but getting to be in it (instead of just catching glimpses as Arthur) is so rewarding. I feel the same way you do where I can sympathize with John, but I will defend Abigail til my dying breath. On my first playthrough I cried when Arthur died, but on every subsequent playthrough it’s John’s proposal that makes tear up. It’s THE payoff. In a game with so much pain there’s this one beautiful moment, and I know Arthur would be so happy that he spent his last moments making sure such a thing could happen. Would be happy to see more content from you. Fallout 4 as well c:
I am also a passionate Abigail defender and lover. I feel she gets a lot of unwarranted flack for having very reasonable stances and reactions to things. I think she is such an important part of both John and Arthur's stories. Thanks for this :)
I feel the proposal and wedding is what Arthur's sacrifice was about. He didn't stay on that mountain holding off the pinkertons JUST so John can survive, no, he stayed behind so John can LIVE! That's what it was all about, even before this point that's what the stated goal of the gang was. I always remember that talk before they go to Six Point Cabin when talking about the differences between the VDL Gang and the O'driscolls John's main distinction is that the O'driscolls are only trying to survive, while the Van Der Linde's are trying to live, free! And now he and his family at least can, because of an act of love from Arthur. I'll always tear up during Arthur's final moments, but the real sobbing is during the proposal and wedding
You are far from the only one who loves the epilogue of this game; in my opinion, it saved the game
People who defend Abigail can’t seem to defend her hating John for quite literally helping them save the farm which if he didn’t save would man either moving out or being controlled by evil men who’s use Abigail
I had never appreciated the contrast between the conversations with jack. It seems the most overlooked missions in this game are very introspective to the characters. Amazing video once again!
Make the videos 2 1/2-5 hours long if you wanna!!!! I LOVE your takes and breakdowns 😍
I’m glad you considered Abigail and Jack’s perspective so much here. I’ve see allot of hate for their characters even though their actions and presentation makes sense and is totally reasonable considering the lives they’ve lived. I love that RDR2 puts so much detail and complexity into the writing of the characters and the dynamics between them, really goes far to make them feel like believable people who struggle finding a place in the new world. I’d love to hear your opinions on Sadie Adler if that’s something you’d have interest in talking about. Keep up the good work!
Yeah people hating Abigail are weird. It's pretty damn obvious why she's always yelling at John, she doesn't want Jack to die or grow up completely without a father. Plus, if John died, being a single, uneducated woman with a child back then would either mean becoming a working girl or ending up dead. And Jack is a kid who basically grew up with no dad and no friends.
I'd love to see a dissection about Sadie. Your commentary and compendium of knowledge both about story arcs and about how they're linked is fantastic.
You and Real Pixels are like the only two Red Dead content creators that don’t demonize Abigai and Mary Linton.
When are we gonna get our fantastic, in-depth look at Arthur's character? I feel like an hour or longer video of your view on said topic is much needed
loving these. going through yet another playthrough of this game and stumbled upon these at just the right time, great work
Honestly the length of the first video was never a problem for me. Listening to you talk for an hour was an hour well spent
The teddy bear in the pocket slays
The way you discuss media compared to other channels on the platform is incredibly refreshing, can't wait for more videos in the future
Please please please do this for RDR. Your insight is phenomenal and the editing and pace is top notch
I would absolutely love some RDR vids from pinky, so I wholeheartedly second this!
Your two red dead analysis videos are the best I've seen. Nobody else analyzes the characters from this perspective. Please please make more of these.
I loved the video! Well thought out and accurate as always
Thank you! I actually have plans to talk about this in the future in conjunction with the wild vitriol I've seen directed at Mary Linton and maybe even Molly O'Shea. I think they have a lot in common and I think about them often.
@@pinkygunslingy I look forward to your insight on the topic, I'm sure it will be extremely interesting, and will give me some points to think about that may not have occurred to me yet.
Personally, as a Male, I found her character great and whenever she sang at the campfires she reminded me of my mom.
But it is annoying when the fans don't understand her actions.
abigail absolutely was right for leaving john but in my opinion the game doesn't do a great job at explaining why she did and makes it seem like she just wanted to let everyone die because her son or something
Maybe because Abigail hates literally everything John does to live, she literally gets mad because John is protecting THERE FUCKING FARM, I don’t remember Sadie being that annoying
The tragedy of it all is that John seals his fate by killing Micah as that’s what leads Pinkertons (?) to his doorstep and setting in motion the first game, if John did just listen to his wife and end that cycle of violence then it would have ended very differently
Very excited for this and please if you ever feel the pull I would eat up fallout explained with your level of media literacy. I feel like so many people reduce the characters to only one aspect of themselves
i can see how this would happen in such a massive game with so many characters but i'd like to one day when im more familiar with the game!
@@pinkygunslingy you should also eventually make a video/play fallout new vegas ya know for the cowboys
@@hellsjerome7086ive been told this a few times now! im coming into a PC soon so i'm thinking of maybe doing playthroughs of the plethora of games ive never touched lol
Finding this channel from the Dutch analysis video was a wonderful treat, love your form of presentation and the balance of humor and well written thought. Hope this channel keeps taking off and succeeding! 😊
i absolutely love your deep dives pinky!!! and the way you explain these characters makes me appreciate them even more. Can't wait to see more videos from you!
i love ur video essays pinky KEEP MAKING THESE!!11!!!
This was a great analysis. The epilog was my favorite chapter. They've both been through allot throughout the events in the game and it shows. Great job on the video.
I love listening to your videos while cooking and cleaning, it's incredibly interesting to hear characters I've loved for years and years be described and looked into so thoroughly.
IM SO GLAD YOU MADE ANOTHER VIDEO!!! PLEASE KEEP DOING THESE ❤
Wow! Just as soon as I discover your channel with the amazing last video, you post another one! Amazing video! Thank you and I can’t wait to see the future of this channel!
i absolutely adore your videos!! as someone who is hyperfixated on rdr it’s very nice to see someone who analyses the games in a similar way and you always bring new things that i hadn’t thought about which is really fun
you’re easily my favourite red dead creator and you do this franchise and the complexity of its characters the justice it deserves. loved the video, please continue to discuss other things abt this series that interest you at whatever video length you prefer. keep up the great commentary. and if you ever delve into other series (such as fallout) i would also love to see your takes on that as well
Please don’t apologize for the length of your videos! I have always been a sucker for long-form character study videos and the video ending left me craving for more 😭
Just saw three of your videos and they're so cool! It is kind of impressive to know these are part of your first uploads. It is nice to see someone go in so much detail about Red Dead in 2023 with enough knowledge to back their theories up which in itself enriches the experience of enjoying the narrative of the game after playing it. Thanks for sharing your stuff!
I love John Marston and this video is such a good dive into who he is, at least during the epilogue! I hope you come back to this in a later video. I love that you dont look at just the surface of things but go deeper! More introspective and stuff, its a breath of fresh air compared to all the "who would win in a fight" videos, not that theres anything wrong with them, i like em. I just appreciate this deeper analysis of characters i adore
Please make more long form content like this, they are so chill and soothing to watch or just listen to
Huge fan of your vids! I often cycle through these vids whenever I got an all nighter to do. Keep it up!
WOOHOO another video essay love your tt and new youtube, keep it up!
I'm loving the TT and the video essays, they're good. Don't worry about making them "too long", they're better longer tbh 40 mins to an hour is perfect
Love your analysis and sense of humour and editing. Few creators can actually make fart sound appropriate and funny.
Much love to the content, I do prefer longer form but understand it’s a lot of work, hope to see your channel blow up as you deserve it!
Great video I could listen to you talk all day. You are my go to for any red dead talk.
I would love to hear more about john and RDR1 personally, video length is not an issue. Your dutch video was great
I literally can’t wait for every upload
I came here from the Dutch video and MAN I love your videos so much! I can’t wait to watch your future videos to come, and I love the long format videos as well :)
Great work. Can’t wait for the next.
Another banger! You're real good at making topics interesting
I really hope that you make a sequel for this video regarding John’s further development in RDR1. Great video, by the way!!
I want to start this off with telling you how fun a great the video is, I've been thinking about this less heavily and I'm glad to see your video having a lot of points I think fit perfectly, and also things I've always thought, and I also want to say some of my favorite lines from Arthur are either literally just "revenge is a fools game" or 90% of the lines that have it. Next I'd love to say how it's so fun to watch your videos, you have a very interesting thought process, and you make very funny jokes that keep me pulled into the video, while I did really like the hour long thing, shorter videos also work perfect for your type of content, keep it up, you're doing fantastic!
I love these videos! I already enjoyed your TikToks and longer videos really suit you! Keep em coming!
I have tore through your red dead videos and they’re really good. I really like your perspective on stuff that I have played through and haven’t noticed until now
Just hearing your perspective on this universe is good enough, whether it’s a tik tok or an hour long! Keep going regardless, it’s awesome
Never played rdr, but I’m so excited for your new uploads here on TH-cam! Your essays are always really entertaining and in depth, no matter the length. I hope you’re having a lovely day!
You honestly should they are great
i love your tiktoks and im so glad youre making long form videos now, keep them coming, you have such a good perspective :)
I just found your channel and ate up this video and your Dutch one. please make more content like this! you are so insightful
I'd be really excited to see your perspective extended to, well, honestly anything else you're interested in talking about. Your tiktoks almost singlehandedly got me to give rdr2 another chance after bouncing off it and I'm loving it the second time around.
Anyways great video, excited to see more from you
You already made my favorite TikTok’s on red dead but now you got my favorite TH-cam videos on it too. It’d be cool to see you branch out to other games by making reviews or retrospectives!
I love your channel so much, please keep making videos!
hitting that notification bell cause this channel is now one of my faves for analysis on characters
im so happy you started a yt channel!!! i love love love these.
For the hell of adding to the positive words, I am absolutely stoked to see you putting care and effort into your channel and uploading more videos, I was utterly in love with your video on Dutch and seeing two whole new lengthy and quality videos after curiously checking on your channel makes me very very happy.
Good luck on the road ahead, you're doing great!! >:D
Please do not be afraid to make longer videos! I love them!
Just discovered your channel. Your videos are awesome. I love long form videos
I love your content keep it up! Always looking forward to your introspective’s ❤
I am so glad I found your channel. Just perfectly deranged and cool content for me.
another banger pinky knockin em out the park.
Thank you for this series!!!!
Oh how I love falling asleep to you talking about RDR. Thank you 😅
These video essays are top notch 🙌
Whats up Outlaw
the first time i saw u had so little videos i cried bc ur my favorite ytber on this site
Great video really enjoying these analyses. Would love if u covered some RDR1 moments in the future. Imo exploring both games really adds to the overall story and character developments. Still looking forward to the next video regardless. Keep up the good work 👍
Another banger!!! Great video
I prefer amazing long videos also. Your videos are top notch as everyone else is pointing out. Thanks for making great content.
I had always been sympathetic to Abigail's point of view in the epilogue, but you've really brought a new light to what she's dealing with. Keep up the good work!
Love these videos keep making them ♥
I love ur editing, keep it up :>
I love this channel, keep up the good work 🫣
I’ve been waiting for this one, turn it up 💪
It's great seeing you make more RDR content. What frustrates me about John is how many chances he got, and he blew them all. Because he has to show everyone what a bad badass he is. Screw you John, get real. He has a wife who stays with him no matter what, an amazing wife who is able and willing to steer him in the right direction. He has a kid, a good-natured and intelligent boy who could do something with his life, despite his dead beat dad. He got a ranch because his former boss pulled strings for a bank to give him credit. And what does he do? First he flirts with danger by using paper thin disguises and aliases, and then goes full in by hunting down Micah. Saying that this is for Arthur, although he knew very well that Arthur didn't want him to ruin his life like that. No, what he did wasn't for Arthur, it was for John Marston.
Sorry for the long rant. I still love John, you know, he's a great protagonist, and his intentions are not malicious. But, oh, is he far from perfect.
Longer videos are becoming big af on TH-cam even with the longer video I assume you have to script something like this your writing or just speaking is great and you’re funny as hell don’t stop making videos
Came back 5 days later to watch both the videos again, they’re very relaxing
Algorithm blessed me with this channel and you have cured my lumbago, subbed!
love this and your dutch video, keep it up!!
I’m glad you have a YT channel. I love the games and also breakdowns and analysis on them. You could make a 5 hour long video on Arthur’s facial hair and I’d watch it 😂 best of luck with the channel
Would love a Part 2 to this detailing John's story from the first game. Either way keep up the good work, I really enjoy your analysis. :)
Your channel scratches some kind of itch in my brain and i dont know it its the willingness to hear nerdy women talk abt their obsessions or my personal obsession with the Red Dead franchise from red dead 1 and 2 being my respective iconic childhood and teenhood games
Goob vibeos i like 👍
Fire keep up the good work
I can say so much about how well put the video is but I will say the thumbnail is so smartly put together I could make an essay on that.
awesome content, keep it coming at whatever pace keeps you engaged :)
also i never understood the epilouge hate. i thought it was really well done. you could stay and farm all day (which is kind of boring) or you could slip out and fall into the outlaw lifestyle once again. it was a cool way of encouraging player actions that reflect johns character (wanting to stay and be with his family while the pull of the outlaw life is always just ouside the fence).
this honestly made me look at the epilogue completely differently,good work
happy to hear it :)
you could make these videos way longer. getting insight like this into the characters makes the game way more replayable and its honestly just interesting asf to see how complex and real the characters are.
I just finished my third viewing of your Dutch video and then this pops up, about to dive into this one
Great video!