Did you use a loop back harness to integrate with the OEM? I used a loopback on my 2024 Chevrolet 2500 with 60 ohm audio control resistors for door chime. All of that seemed to work well but if I volume factory stereo over 80% the amp goes into protect on the sub channel (not that I run it at 80% but why...). I have the factory subwoofer disconnected at the harness so wondering if it needs to detect that load or something? Lastly, Bluetooth audio randomly drops signal during voice calls which could be because I am using the wrong load resistors, IDK. I'm starting to question if my OEM amp is faulty because it even occurs when take the loopback harness out and plug back into OEM (basically testing running the Bose amp straight back to speakers). They are aftermarket speakers but still a 4 ohm load. This is killing me though and I don't know where to turn at this point...
Honestly the last few systems I’ve done had the Axxess interface in them. I used an Android tablet to control it. In one system I used it as a preamp and the other as a DSP. So far so good.
I have a 24 2500hd zr2 i was wondering what load resistors you used for the dash speakers if youve changed them. I have a brand new set of kicker dash speakers put them in and they shut the dash down. Dealer had me give them the stock blows dash speakers to put back in.
Great video. I have a 23 Silverado with Bose. Metra makes a dsp and harness but they are back ordered and no ship date. It allows u to adjust chemes, etc. My trusty installer wouldn't touch the truck without it. I have another installer with good reviews but never used him. He wants to do the install with a lc7i. Not sure how he is dealing with chimes, etc. Thinking maybe just dobsub for now and wait for Metra to start shipping interface. Any advice? Another installer wants to use a lc7i and no dsp. Just hate to mess up a new truck and if there are warranty issues.....
@@lancesautovlog I had a DSP in my Car - it was a Audison Bit Ten. It worked very well. I do have most of the components but my installer won't touch the truck until he can get an interface for the BOSE system in my 23 Silverado. I found this online. I think this is what he was talking about. Axxess AXDSPX-ETH1 For now I may just do a subwoofer install with the Kicker Keyloc and an Epicenter for kicks. Once he gets the interface I'll do a full install. Thinking I may do dash speakers too for now. Do you know if 2.5" is the largest dash speaker allowed?
@@lancesautovlog The stock dash speaker does around 200hz to 20k. I want to replace it with something in that range. The problem I have is that I don't know the sensitivity of the dash speakers so I'm flying in the dark. Eventually I will install my 6 x 9 Hertz Millies but they are very sensitive. 93spl. So I might just wait but I really want to get rid of the dash speakers since they put out all the high frequencies. The door speakers cut off at 5k hz. I'm definitely doing the subwoofer and when my go to guy gets the harness I'll let him do the rest of the install. I'll have him install my Alpine PDX-V9 amp with Kicker Keyloc and an Epicenter for fun. I have an 8" Alpine MM sub which is very musical. I have a 12" Titanic 1200 sitting in my closet so it will get a shot at beating out the 8". I'm not into loud boomy bass. I like more musical bass. By the way do you know if my installer would have to do any cutting to get the 3.5" dash speakers to fit? Do you think it's worth it for now or just wait? Thanks again for the video.
@@traderfjp there are a number of middler speakers out there. All the major brands offer them. The may not play down to 200Hz, but they will do 300Hz to 500Hz is not out of the question. A 6X9 will play up higher than that easily. A Kicker Keyloc will eliminate any delay & allpass filters if they are present. So building a system shouldn’t be out of the question. I’m in Cali if you’re local.
@@lancesautovlog thank you! About how much watts is the total system pushing? I am looking to do a similar setup to mine and just mapping out everything I will need.
Hello since it had Bose system, how were you able to lower the chime? Because on my 2023 I did after market speakers, an you can hear my blinker light very loud now.. is there a way to lower it are disconnected it?
We lowered the chimes by using the DSP. I located the frequency and reduced it. As far as the turn signal level they weren’t any louder ten before. That type of amp/DSP are you using?
Did you use 20 ohm or 60 ohms resistors to maintain your door chimes? This is a non bose system. How about the ANC -active noise cancellation - did that make a hissing sound or mess with volumes? Very similar to my build. Two infinity amps, epi centre, DM -810 , all fit on board behind seats on firewall. Kappa tweets, 6x9's , 6.5 rear doors and pioneer mids mounted under back seats with 12" RF shallow sub. Sounds real good now the bugs are out. Good job on your install.
The Audison Forza DSP amp have a feature call USS(Universal Speakers Simulator). This feature create the illusion that there is a speaker automatically. So no resistors are required. There was no ANC on this truck. I didn't experience any hissing or mess with the OEM volume control. If you're using an Audio Control DSP/DSP amp you will need load resistors for sure. Hopefully your systems sounds as good as this did.
@@lancesautovlogI’m using Audio Control Amp for doors and their mono amp to run a GM/ Kicker Sub in my 2023 GMC Elevation Refresh Non Bose and I used load resistors to get Chime and Turn Signals working…BUT they are loud. I found the chime volume in the settings and could turn that down to an acceptable level but the turn signal click is still obnoxious. What can be done to drop that volume ? The signal for that click noise has to be fed to the audio somehow?
I have a 2022 Silverado Custom Trail Boss with the 7 inch display. I would like to add a new system but i was told that is not an option due to the chimes and signals. There is no adapter to control that and that i was stuck with the stock sound. I am looking for opinions and options.
Can i install the infinity kappas in my 24 silverado hd doors with small amp without issues with chime and blinker sound? Or swap to kappas without amp for now just to have some better sound? What ohm are the factory speakers?
@@lancesautovlog non bose. Can you tell me what the ohm is for the speakers in my 24 silverado 2500hd with new 13.4 screen? I haven't been able to find this information for all 3 locations.
Which harness you use to connect all the door speakers to an aftermarket amp i dont want rewire or cut the factory wires, is a 2020 silverado without bose
@@lancesautovlog Yes please. Need that part number for sure. I just ordered a 2024 3500 PRO with 7" IOR radio. Nobody online seems to have a T-harness for 2023 or 2024.
Hey whats uo bro nice video very informative , by any chance do you know what color is the cables for the radio stereo wire ? Im trying to tap in on the passenger side to connect a line out converter Lc2. Let me know thanks
Good Morning, I would use a T-harness because the wires are tight coming off the OEM tuner. Here's the part catalog.pac-audio.com/catalog/amplifier-integration-harness/lphgm71 Left Front Speaker (+/-) Blue - Brown/Blue +,- Radio behind glove box, gray 29 pin plug, pins 2 - 5 Right Front Speaker (+/-) Yellow - Yellow/Black +,- Radio behind glove box, gray 29 pin plug, pins 3 - 6 or pins 6 - 3
I have a 2023 chevy Silverado that already has an aftermarket sound system but the problem is that to indicator sound plays through the speakers and is way too loud, I took it to the shop where the system was installed but they were telling me that they couldn't fix it, how can I fix this issue?
Hope you didn't do delay in the front half of that system...it's got all-pass! Also, I would suggest a wide band for the dash instead of a tweeter...they're too far apart and things don't line up or sound right, you need mid range on the dash! That's what came factory anyway 😬🤷♂️
In this specific truck there wasn’t a all-pass filter. We tested it. We also went active. The customer provided the equipment, so we wired it and it came out great. There ways to do systems in the Chevy and it does require correcting the all-pass using a DSP. Thanks for the advice.
@@lancesautovlog it's always tough when the customer doesn't supply the recommended or right stuff for the job. Gotta work with what you got as I always say! I'm sure it turned out great
I just got a 2023 Silverado with all the digital dash and the big screen head unit, I’ve heard that messing around with these head units can cause issues. Is that true? Because this stock stereo is dog shit and I say that in the most absolute of ways and it’s gotta go lol
I’ve done several audio upgrades to those trucks and haven’t encountered any issues. I would say that the OEM systems do have issues with any upgrades. There are a few installers that are experienced with them. The ones that are generally have good to great outs comes.
Do you have any suggestions as far as door speakers, dash speakers and an amplifier I could possibly put in the dash? I’m not looking for anything crazy, just don’t like when anything I listen to the base drops and the lyrics peter out everytime there is a deep note. It sounds pretty bad..
Man Lance replies to everything, you rock! About to get started on my build thanks to you $$ Appreciate you
No problem.
Great work very clean I’m going to show this to my local audio shop as a reference as to what I want
Nice thank you.
My 2021 got totaled had the bose. Got a 24 custom trail boss and it’s WEAK can’t wait to upgrade a System
I’m in California if you need an installer.
Did you use a loop back harness to integrate with the OEM? I used a loopback on my 2024 Chevrolet 2500 with 60 ohm audio control resistors for door chime. All of that seemed to work well but if I volume factory stereo over 80% the amp goes into protect on the sub channel (not that I run it at 80% but why...). I have the factory subwoofer disconnected at the harness so wondering if it needs to detect that load or something? Lastly, Bluetooth audio randomly drops signal during voice calls which could be because I am using the wrong load resistors, IDK. I'm starting to question if my OEM amp is faulty because it even occurs when take the loopback harness out and plug back into OEM (basically testing running the Bose amp straight back to speakers). They are aftermarket speakers but still a 4 ohm load. This is killing me though and I don't know where to turn at this point...
Honestly the last few systems I’ve done had the Axxess interface in them. I used an Android tablet to control it. In one system I used it as a preamp and the other as a DSP. So far so good.
Did you ever get your audio upgrade working correctly? I'm wanting to upgrade my 24 hd non bose system
@@nicklouallen4784 yes I did. I’ve done a total of 3 now.
I have a 24 2500hd zr2 i was wondering what load resistors you used for the dash speakers if youve changed them. I have a brand new set of kicker dash speakers put them in and they shut the dash down. Dealer had me give them the stock blows dash speakers to put back in.
I don’t generally do speaker replacements only in GM trucks, so I don’t have an answer.
Great video
Thanks!
Great video. I have a 23 Silverado with Bose. Metra makes a dsp and harness but they are back ordered and no ship date. It allows u to adjust chemes, etc. My trusty installer wouldn't touch the truck without it. I have another installer with good reviews but never used him. He wants to do the install with a lc7i. Not sure how he is dealing with chimes, etc. Thinking maybe just dobsub for now and wait for Metra to start shipping interface. Any advice? Another installer wants to use a lc7i and no dsp. Just hate to mess up a new truck and if there are warranty issues.....
I’m a DSP guy, so LC7i doesn’t turn me on. If your patient person waiting is the best. Do you currently have all the products for the install?
@@lancesautovlog I had a DSP in my Car - it was a Audison Bit Ten. It worked very well. I do have most of the components but my installer won't touch the truck until he can get an interface for the BOSE system in my 23 Silverado. I found this online. I think this is what he was talking about. Axxess AXDSPX-ETH1 For now I may just do a subwoofer install with the Kicker Keyloc and an Epicenter for kicks. Once he gets the interface I'll do a full install. Thinking I may do dash speakers too for now. Do you know if 2.5" is the largest dash speaker allowed?
You could go as larger as 3.5 speaker, but that’s the largest I would do. Are you thinking of use a middler(tweller) speaker?
@@lancesautovlog The stock dash speaker does around 200hz to 20k. I want to replace it with something in that range. The problem I have is that I don't know the sensitivity of the dash speakers so I'm flying in the dark. Eventually I will install my 6 x 9 Hertz Millies but they are very sensitive. 93spl. So I might just wait but I really want to get rid of the dash speakers since they put out all the high frequencies. The door speakers cut off at 5k hz. I'm definitely doing the subwoofer and when my go to guy gets the harness I'll let him do the rest of the install. I'll have him install my Alpine PDX-V9 amp with Kicker Keyloc and an Epicenter for fun. I have an 8" Alpine MM sub which is very musical. I have a 12" Titanic 1200 sitting in my closet so it will get a shot at beating out the 8". I'm not into loud boomy bass. I like more musical bass. By the way do you know if my installer would have to do any cutting to get the 3.5" dash speakers to fit? Do you think it's worth it for now or just wait? Thanks again for the video.
@@traderfjp there are a number of middler speakers out there. All the major brands offer them. The may not play down to 200Hz, but they will do 300Hz to 500Hz is not out of the question. A 6X9 will play up higher than that easily.
A Kicker Keyloc will eliminate any delay & allpass filters if they are present. So building a system shouldn’t be out of the question.
I’m in Cali if you’re local.
Is that sound from the factory hi level output cominginto the Dsp? Sounds clean
Yes we used the High level output of the factory amp.
@@lancesautovlog thx for your response
did you have to add a second battery to do the installation?
No. Adding a second generally will put a strain on the charging system.
@@lancesautovlog thank you! About how much watts is the total system pushing? I am looking to do a similar setup to mine and just mapping out everything I will need.
I would say anywhere from 1400 to 1700.
Hello since it had Bose system, how were you able to lower the chime? Because on my 2023 I did after market speakers, an you can hear my blinker light very loud now.. is there a way to lower it are disconnected it?
We lowered the chimes by using the DSP. I located the frequency and reduced it. As far as the turn signal level they weren’t any louder ten before. That type of amp/DSP are you using?
Did you use 20 ohm or 60 ohms resistors to maintain your door chimes? This is a non bose system. How about the ANC -active noise cancellation - did that make a hissing sound or mess with volumes? Very similar to my build. Two infinity amps, epi centre, DM -810 , all fit on board behind seats on firewall. Kappa tweets, 6x9's , 6.5 rear doors and pioneer mids mounted under back seats with 12" RF shallow sub. Sounds real good now the bugs are out. Good job on your install.
The Audison Forza DSP amp have a feature call USS(Universal Speakers Simulator). This feature create the illusion that there is a speaker automatically. So no resistors are required.
There was no ANC on this truck. I didn't experience any hissing or mess with the OEM volume control.
If you're using an Audio Control DSP/DSP amp you will need load resistors for sure. Hopefully your systems sounds as good as this did.
@@lancesautovlogI’m using Audio Control Amp for doors and their mono amp to run a GM/ Kicker Sub in my 2023 GMC Elevation Refresh Non Bose and I used load resistors to get Chime and Turn Signals working…BUT they are loud. I found the chime volume in the settings and could turn that down to an acceptable level but the turn signal click is still obnoxious. What can be done to drop that volume ? The signal for that click noise has to be fed to the audio somehow?
@redrider533 did you get the turn signal sound working correctly? I'm wanting to swap my non bose speakers to infinity speakers?
I have a 2022 Silverado Custom Trail Boss with the 7 inch display. I would like to add a new system but i was told that is not an option due to the chimes and signals. There is no adapter to control that and that i was stuck with the stock sound. I am looking for opinions and options.
There are many way to do a 2022. You can email me or DM me on instagram. Please feel free to reach out.
Where are you guys located? Also what would a setup and installation cost? Very interested. I have a similar truck.
We are in Huntington Beach ca. we responded to DM on instagram.
Nice work. I installed a similar system, how can reduce the chime volume. It is extremely loud
We determined the chime frequency with a RTA and reduced it using the DSP.
Will that effect speaker volume as well?@@lancesautovlog
It will affect that frequency on that speaker, but it won’t reduce volume.
@@lancesautovlog I've heard the chimes are only affected on the bose version, do you know if that's true?
@@Motinhoxthe chimes will be amplified, but a good DSP can solve that issue.
Can i install the infinity kappas in my 24 silverado hd doors with small amp without issues with chime and blinker sound? Or swap to kappas without amp for now just to have some better sound? What ohm are the factory speakers?
Does your HD have a Bose system?
@@lancesautovlog non bose. Can you tell me what the ohm is for the speakers in my 24 silverado 2500hd with new 13.4 screen? I haven't been able to find this information for all 3 locations.
@@nicklouallen4784 all the speakers I’ve replaced were 4 ohms.
Where did you connect your input output converter to connect to the speakers? I don’t know which wires or where to use
So i used a t harness into the high level input of a DSP.
This would the same if you used a in line converter(high to low).
Which harness you use to connect all the door speakers to an aftermarket amp i dont want rewire or cut the factory wires, is a 2020 silverado without bose
@@lancesautovlog Yes please. Need that part number for sure. I just ordered a 2024 3500 PRO with 7" IOR radio. Nobody online seems to have a T-harness for 2023 or 2024.
Hey whats uo bro nice video very informative , by any chance do you know what color is the cables for the radio stereo wire ? Im trying to tap in on the passenger side to connect a line out converter Lc2. Let me know thanks
Good Morning,
I would use a T-harness because the wires are tight coming off the OEM tuner. Here's the part
catalog.pac-audio.com/catalog/amplifier-integration-harness/lphgm71
Left Front Speaker (+/-) Blue - Brown/Blue +,- Radio behind glove box, gray 29 pin plug, pins 2 - 5
Right Front Speaker (+/-) Yellow - Yellow/Black +,- Radio behind glove box, gray 29 pin plug, pins 3 - 6 or pins 6 - 3
What's the price on that work you did on 2023 silverado
Honestly the customer provided the equipment, so it would be a difficult to tell you. You can email me if you’re looking for something specific.
How can I get my truck stereo upgrade like this
You can email me or dm me on instagram.
I have a 2023 chevy Silverado that already has an aftermarket sound system but the problem is that to indicator sound plays through the speakers and is way too loud, I took it to the shop where the system was installed but they were telling me that they couldn't fix it, how can I fix this issue?
Does your system have a DSP in it?
If you have a dsp you can use an rta or if you have a audio control dm-810 it has one so you could see what freq for the chimes and turn it down some
@@jeremymerrill5783 yep
I find the apf 8.9 bit doesn’t get loud
I’ve found that if you do the input setup with the volume a little bit lower it works better. They did address that issue in the new Forza products.
Was hoping to see the dash speaker grill removal
Sorry. Made next time.
How much does this type of upgrade cost??
Systems like this range from $4000 up. Speakers choices and sound deadening may determine the final price.
Are you guys in the Atlanta area
No sir Cali
Hope you didn't do delay in the front half of that system...it's got all-pass!
Also, I would suggest a wide band for the dash instead of a tweeter...they're too far apart and things don't line up or sound right, you need mid range on the dash! That's what came factory anyway 😬🤷♂️
In this specific truck there wasn’t a all-pass filter. We tested it. We also went active.
The customer provided the equipment, so we wired it and it came out great. There ways to do systems in the Chevy and it does require correcting the all-pass using a DSP.
Thanks for the advice.
@@lancesautovlog it's always tough when the customer doesn't supply the recommended or right stuff for the job. Gotta work with what you got as I always say! I'm sure it turned out great
I just got a 2023 Silverado with all the digital dash and the big screen head unit, I’ve heard that messing around with these head units can cause issues. Is that true? Because this stock stereo is dog shit and I say that in the most absolute of ways and it’s gotta go lol
I’ve done several audio upgrades to those trucks and haven’t encountered any issues. I would say that the OEM systems do have issues with any upgrades. There are a few installers that are experienced with them. The ones that are generally have good to great outs comes.
Do you have any suggestions as far as door speakers, dash speakers and an amplifier I could possibly put in the dash? I’m not looking for anything crazy, just don’t like when anything I listen to the base drops and the lyrics peter out everytime there is a deep note. It sounds pretty bad..
@@Boostlee2023 is your system Bose?
I don’t believe it is, has the 13.4 screen but doesn’t have Bose emblems on the covers.
Wouldn't he need a LC2i pro for that stock radio and to save your bass
Not really. Most DSP amps have high level input and a LC2i isn't needed.
What was price
It’s was around $7000 to $6500
Do mine
Where are you located?
Hey!