Door Seal Modification Ford Super Duty
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ส.ค. 2010
- Improvement to factory door seals. Works on all makes and models, not just Ford trucks. Use latex or silicon tubing. 3/8th inch outer diameter with 1/16th inch wall thickness. Links below:
10 Feet 3/8 Black Latex Tubing: amzn.to/2rICDBc
50 Feet 3/8 Black Latex Tubing: amzn.to/2xZWL3Q
Smaller diameter 50 feet 5/16 Black Latex Tubing: amzn.to/2uyr68s
Silicone Spray: amzn.to/2rtvR1g
Fish Tape Tool: amzn.to/2tnmYVi
UPDATE October 2016: The seals and tubing still work like new. They softened up just a bit over the years but still close tightly. No wind noise or door rattling six years later. This is a great modification for any vehicle with weak door seals. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Long term update. I'm selling the truck in a couple of weeks and wanted to follow-up. The tubing and seal really held up great. They feel and work like new even six years later. No wear or damage to the factory seal and no degradation of the silicone tube inside. This is really a great modification for any vehicle with weak door seals. Why the factories don't make them like this to begin with is a mystery to me.
Thank you very much for the update!
Thanks, not many people update especially after this many years.
How many feet to do all 4 doors on a super duty?
Thanks a lot for the update. Going to do this to my expedition
ALWAYS A WARRIOR 50ft
Just did this other day. It works well 40' was plenty to do all four doors. I laid mine as flat and as straight as i could get it. The electric fish slid through, some tough spots going in. Then I used electric tape to hold it on. I didn't use any lube at all. I had wife hold back on the tubing a little which made it shrink up just a little bit and it slid right through. I hope this helps others, but this guy deserves all the credit. Never would have thought of this solution.
BEST TIP I HAVE SEEN YET, HAVE OLD 91 GRAND MARQUISE WITH ONLY 56K MILES AND THE PASSANGER DOOR IS VERY NOISY, THIS WILL BE MY NEXT PROJECT. I HAVE ALL READY SOUND DEADENED THE DOORS WITH 80MIL NOICO, BOY WHAT A DIFFERENCE.
ZGERMAN it's easy and works great!
3/8ths inch outer diameter, 1/16th wall thickness. Regular surgical tubing.
I did this today on 3 of 4 doors for a 1999 F350 crew cab -- what a difference. Thank you very much for posting this.
I did this yesterday, my truck is a 2007 and the doors have rattled since new, upon seeing your video I tried it, the first one was hard till I learned to fold it over on the fishtape. I did all four doors. It is like a different truck, THANK YOU!
It's awesome how this old video, recorded on a 240p cell phone (which was really cool at the time) is still helping folks out.
@AnytimeChase 3/8 outer diameter 1/4 inner diameter or 1/16 wall thickness. Video description has info.
@AnytimeChase No problem. It's amazing how this dumb little video recorded on a crappy early cell phone still helps people. It's very gratifying.
seriously who gives a thumbs down on video like this? Great mod, going to do it on my truck as soon as the weather warms up.
+Andrew Rumbold The only thing I wonder about is will this damage the seals overtime. If you have old seals you got nothing to lose but I would beware on doing this on new seals like his.
+Twisted86 If you use latex or silicone tubing the OEM seals will be fine. People who use vinyl or other hard materials will have failures. Door seal rubber is very soft and pliable for a reason, so it conforms to the gap and seals out noise. The problem is the OEM seals are often just not substantial enough and they tend to collapse and fail. Adding a proper material for support actually helps longevity.
Andrew Rumbold Ford, shhh they know that the Earth is flat ;)
Twisted86, why worry about your new seal getting damaged if it's causing whistling or rattling after all? What have you got to lose anyway? Besides, the latex tube runs through the door seal central tube and they're all compressible, and as the video publisher updated after six years everything is working great. So no need to worry.
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A simple, inexpensive and useful modification for sure. Thanks for taking the time to film and share.
Did this today. Worked great. Only tubing I could get locally was clear but it worked just the same. One comment - 2 door standard cab uses 14 feet per door opening, not 10 feet. Could not believe the difference it made. Truck was incredibly quiet. 2009 F250 4x4 with 139K. I installed these by myself. It would have been easier with a super assistant like Megan.
Lol, Megan has gone on to greater things. Mission, school and now married and a mom. Time flies! You'll want to watch those vinyl hoses. They get really hard when it's cold.
Thanks...Just did this on my '05 Dodge Ram. Makes a world of difference--she rolls down the road now like new.
Thanks Again for yet another tip - did this Mod today. Installed the leveling kit last weekend and have a nice set of Bilstein 5100's on the way. Really appreciate your documentation and videos! - Chris
Thank you for the weatherstrip mod video and information. Money saving upgrade. I’m ordering my tubing tonight for my ‘04 Superduty CrewCab
You'll love it. I have a 2002 Explorer SportTrac that really improved after this mod. It works on all makes an models.
I just found your channel through one of the diesel forums while researching the Titan 50 gallon tank, great content and vids !
Thank you for a ton of very informative vids.
I just purchased a 2014 F-250 with the 6.7 and that 26 gallon tank is driving me nuts, my last 3 F-150's had 36 gallon tanks and I'm in capacity withdrawal.
Happy to find this vid on weather seals, I hate wind noise and being able to quiet it down for the 70-80mph trips down the freeway will be refreshing.
Thank you.
The truck is awesome straight off the line but there are some great improvements that can be made. Doing the door seals mod is just a habit. All my Ford trucks have needed this. It helps with road noise but one of the best benefits is protecting from slams.
This is great. Interestingly I found this video after hearing more wind noise in wife's Nissan Quest. I went to see if the channel was there on the vehicle only to find that there was already some latex tubing installed at the joint. After closer inspection it was only about 3 inches long to help keep the seams together. I have ordered the tubing and silicon spray.
Looking forward to completing this. Thank you!
There is a product made by Frost King called Caulk Saver. It is tubular closed cell foam. 20' (1 pack) is about $3.00. Works great. I used a pack per door for an extended cab Chevy Silverado. Cheap and effective.
I'll have to keep this mod in my back pocket for sure. Thanks for making this video...even if it was 7 years ago. Very useful!
Now this comment is from 3 years ago
@@tylerw1774 lol
Worked great on my truck. I had several squeaks. If you keep the seals pulled tight when pulling the tube through its a lot easier.
3/8th inch outer diameter tubing and 1/16th wall thickness. This is common surgical tubing size. Anything thicker will be too stiff and it will be near impossible to close the doors. Most people who do this mod make comments that it takes more force to close the doors but it "settles in" a bit over a couple of weeks. Bottom line is that the door seal is tighter resulting in no rattles and less sound coming though from the outside.
Can someone use Polyurethane Hose as a substitute?
I just did this on my 2015 F250. HUGE improvement. Thank you for posting it. .
Did you use the 3/8" or 5/16" tubing?
Nice little upgrade! Thanks for sharing.
Another great video!! Did this today and noticed a huge difference!! Thanks!!
Same exact stuff. 3/8 inch outer diameter, 1/16 wall thickness. Yellow or black doesn't matter. I did this on my 99 Expedition, 2000 Excursion and 2002 SportTrac. It works great in all of them.
When I was younger I fixed a door rattle issue on my Hondas by putting a 1 inch piece of low profile door seal in the top corner where the door bump hits the frame above the window.
It also gave the cars that nice sound when closing.
Thank you for sharing: I am currently troubleshooting a water leak flowing into my passenger space; I have done a lot more DIY work than I thought I would considering my lack of mechanical skills and tools. I already removed the trim panels, the back seat and pulled back the carpet. I just started looking at the weatherstripping for maintenance and/or replacement. I will watch your video a few more times and consider attempting this upgrade. Thank you
This seal upgrade would help if water is getting past the door seal. I watched a guy duct tape the door completely to the truck trying to track down a leak. His problem ended up being a sunroof drain that had become disconnected.
Now i know what to do with my Nissan Patrol door seal! Thank you for sharing!
Great idea! My right front door makes a ton of noise around 70mph, wind gets through the seal. Im going to try this out on that door.
It is easy. Just get a helper and use plenty of lubricant. I've done this on several vehicles with the same great results. It works on all makes and models and is a great improvement.
I live in Utah and I've helped out several friends. You can handle this, it's easy.
thanks for the update. Did it on my 2011 after viewing your first vid..forgot to do it on my 2015.. ordering tomorrow...thanks Epic.
No problem. Happy to pass this cool tip on.
You'll really notice the difference. The tubing expands the thin seal from the factory and it's much tighter. If fixes wind noise, rattles and slamming doors. Much better.
I have a 2000 Ford Excursion that sounded like it was falling apart. I did this mod and now it is silent, thanks for the info!!!
Thanks man! That should fix my problem on my 2019 F250
It's just a matter of time until your door seals harden to the shape of the door. It's done this on all my Fords for years. Matter of preference and I do it even when the truck is new. I just like having a more substantial seal to keep the rattling and door banging away. It's hard to notice over time though until three years from now you do the door seal mod and wonder how in the world you lived with all that noise.
@unkydon - 3/8 inch outer diameter tubing. It's the most common size. Any yes, it will help your Excursion. I had a 99 Expedition and a 2000 Excursion that received this mod. Don't forget to do the back doors on the Excursion also.
I used a silicone spray. Some have said that WD-40 dries out too fast so I'd stay away from that. You can get the fish tape at any hardware store or harbor freight. Great tool to have around the house.
Thank you so much. You have saved me at least 700 to $800. Dollars.
No problem. Simple solution to a wide problem.
Thanks for the response. I just ordered!
Seamply your idea is the bast in TH-cam thanks 🙏
This is brilliant! Thanks for the idea!
This worked great. Thanks for the idea.
You make it look easy. Thanks.
wow thanks for the vid. i was lookin for a way to make a better seal on my doors and this just solved it. funny thing is i was just youtubing and came across this. again thanks
@rap2454 I used 3/8ths outer diameter tubing. It is plenty big enough and will make the doors tight. Half inch tubing would be way too large.
@docsol01 It was a generic silicone spray. Worked great.
Not sure if surfaddict is going to reply but I'd recommend against anything more stout than the 3/8 inch outer diameter with 1/16th wall thickness. That has been perfect for all the trucks I've used it on. Thicker would just be difficult to close and might put too much pressure on the striker latch.
I use a silicone spray lube. Works great.
@impalaman955 This would work on all types of door seals. Heck, do it on your screen door. Anything that just needs a little extra support. I'm not sure how fuel line hose would work though. That's pretty rigid. A door seal does need to flex quite a bit to work and if you use a hard hose inside, it may interfere with the door's regular operation.
Yep there's a difference in the door seal. In your video you show to put the tubing in the bigger cavity of the seal but on my door seal it only has one cavity not two like your video shows. It was worth a try anyways, I hate that wind noise when driving.
3/8 inch outer diameter tubing with 1/16th wall thickness.
@snyken1 You can find it many places. Home Depot, Lowes, etc. If you search online you can find the tubing half the price. Try Amazon, Leisure Pro, etc. Search for 3/8th inch outer diameter with 1/16th inch wall thickness.
Check with a local medical supply store. Scuba shops have it. Home Depot and Lowes have it. You can find it all over the internet as well.
@jaycarp02 The tubing I used had 1/16th inch thick walls. Any thicker and the tubing is too stiff.
@surfaddict313 No sticky necessary. the seal pinches over the metal tab and stays there.
Just did all five door seals of my 2017 Ford Explorer Limited. Haven’t driven it yet, but man they do sound much more solid when you close it. Ordered 55 feet and had about 4-6 foot left.
P.S. I just used liquid hand soap to keep it sliding in smoothly.
I haven't done my 2017 F350 yet but I'm close. Getting tired of that floppy, wobbly OEM door seal. The only price we pay for tight door seals is the occasional "miss" when closing some times. It takes just a tad more force but that is the point after all.
Thanks, gonna try I tomorrow. Gonna use your vid as instructional.
Nice video. 2017 Explorer Platinum has needed this mod on the front doors since it was new and we drove it off the lot. Just measured with a string and all 4 doors need approx 12'; i.e. a 50' roll should work. Also, I'm not exactly sure how the lower parts of the threshold trim come off as this vehicle is a bit more than just the threshold piece (it has a light in it also just in case when it's dark and you're getting out/in of the vehicle and have forgotten it's an Explorer). I have used some stick on home window weatherstripping thus far to temporarily quiet the wind noise (hillbilly fix) and may give this tube, permanent fix a try. If so, I'll try to remember to update this post with additional comments on what I encounter with this install on a 2017 Explorer. Thanks again EpicCowlick for the original video.
It will be great to hear how it works out.
awesome video
I found weedeater cord helped fish the tubing through without having to purchase an electrical fishing tool. I actually use some 150 pound monofilament fishing line used on my deep-sea rigs, but it’s pretty similar to 3-D printing filament or weedeater cord.
Great tip!
+EpicCowlick Where is a good source for the surgical tubing? I see you recommend latex or silicon 3/8" but I know I read somewhere to be really sure to get seamless tuging so there is no hard spot in it where they spliced two shorter pieces together. Thanks and great video!
That is a very good idea thanks
How many feet do we need to do all 4 doors on the 2011 superduty crewcab
Thank you for this video I have a Ford F150 2014 my driver door is horrible I’m going to try this
This is fricking BRILLIANT!!!!!!! Going to try this on my Saab.
Kudos.
Thanks, what kind of lubricant did you use? And where can you pick up the fish tape?
Good Job !
Thanks EpicCowlick! Your solution worked great. I had to try and run the surgical tubing twice and use lots of WD-40 on the second run but other than that my solution worked like you specified.
It's a timeless solution even if the video is old and crappy!
@reelwork1 Thanks.
so this would stop my wind noise in my 02 gmc envoy, would rubber fuel line do the same job? i ask because i work in a garage and have easy access to this
What year super duty came with those door sill kick panel with the super duty embossed like yours?
Good info, thanks.
I actually don't notice any noise on mine, and I bought it new. Do you know if Ford fixed this at the factory eventually on newer models? I have a 2012 F350 Dually CC 4x4.
What kind of tube is that? where do you get it?
How many feet do you need to do a crew cab?
I have a 2011 f150 with wind noise coming from my drives side doors. I may have to try this.
Does it make the door any harder to fully close? Particularly on cars with lighter doors?
What thickness tubing did you use? There seems to be several sizes online to order.
What size would you recommend for a 07 F150?
I know this video is now ancient, but curious what size 'medical' tubing was used? Thanks to anyone who has done this mod and can provide the requested sizing.
Very cool! Simple, cheap and seems to do the job. Hopefully the '17 you have now will not require this mod.
So far so good with the 17. It's probably because the aluminum doors are lighter and seal better. Funny that all of my previous Fords have needed the better seal. Expedition, Excursion, Sport Trac and the 2011 SD. Maybe we've finally broken the trend?
EpicCowlick aaaaaand my 17 needs the mod as well
Brandon Sivek I just purchased a 2018 F-250 and I am shocked on how much wind noise I have on both rear windows. Very disappointed
i have a 2001 ford explorer and the wind noise is just unbearable. I will try this and I hope this tubing fits in well.
Great idea🙏
Where can I get surgical tubing and is that all you can use, or does auto zone have something I can use?
Did you use 1/8" or or 1/16" wall tubing? From the vid it looks like 1/16" wall but I figured I would ask. I am going to order some out of McMaster. Thanks in Advance.
Ill try this week on my f150 2017 it make alot of wind noise whenever I drive 70-80
The seals on my 2000 f250 are pretty weak as it's been in Florida heat all it's life. I'm going to give this a try..thanks for the tip!
It should work for well for you. You'll probably have the same experience as most folks being that you haven't realized how sloppy, loose and noisy the doors are now. After the mod, peace and quiet will return to your life!
What is the thickness of the tuving
What size is the tubing? Great job. Should fix my Excursion problems as well.
During the install you used the 3/8” O.D tubing. What is the 5/16” tubing for ? Thanks.
What size OD of tubing did you use?
What kind of lubricant did you use?
What type of Lubricant did you use?
What size tubing did u use?
Want to fix the problem if this mod pulls down the corner of your weather seal!?!
I had some problems because the silicone tube stretched while installing and there was too much friction for it to relax back to the normal length; even after adding silicone lube through the little holes. The problem is the tension pulls the seal down at the corners and can allow wind or water into the cab.
The solution is to use your hand pump from your brake bleeder kit! Connect the hand pump to one end of the silicone tube and have your helper pinch the other end. The pump evacuates the air in the tube, which collapses and reduces the friction allowing it to relax back to its normal length.
Does this apply to bwm?
Thanks for the great video, very well done, short and to the point.
Just about anywhere. Most expensive is Home Depot or Lowes. Cheapest is scuba or medical supply stores.
Where did you purchase the delay text tubing?
What size surgical tubing?
Did this on 2004 Expedition with less than great results. The tubing stretches when pulled into the seal. This leaves tension in the seal that pulls the seal out of the door corners when reinstalled. Hope you have better results.
This is true and a good tip is to kind of shake the seal with the tubing inside a little before cutting it off. That way the tension is removed and the tubing does not want to pull back on the seal.