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WHAT’S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MARINE RECON AND FORCE RECON?
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Do you know the difference between Marine Recon and Force Recon? For starters, Reconnaissance Marines are the tip of the spear in the United States Marine Corps. Within their community are two distinct elements: Division Recon and Force Recon.
Both of these assets in the Reconnaissance Marine community bring to the table something unique. But what exactly do Recon Marines do? What about Force Recon? And what separates Force Recon from Marine Recon? If you want to learn more about the differences between Marine Recon and Force Recon, watch this video!
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That Doc Pogue Is wrong
I can’t speak for all of them, but the recon team at my post are absolute bros. They always come out to help us in training even when they have leave. They also help train our SRT boys. Absolute units, these guys.
Congratulations to all VETERANS DAY THANK U ALL 4SERVING & CONTINUE TO SERVE OUR U.S.NATION GREATLY APPRECIATE 👍♥️🇺🇲♥️🇺🇲♥️
My dad was a Force Recon Marine, he was one when jungle warfare was mostly what he did. He wasn't in Vietnam, he was in around the 80s.
I’m assuming he was involved in the gulf war
@@sir_grout9480 no he did other stuff....
@@isaiahbarnett9062your dad really missed out
@@TacDeveloper in what?
@@isaiahbarnett9062Nam was from 55-75
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Thank you for your bravery, dedication, and service to your country.
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I think this might be easiest way to explain the big difference. Division Recon operates close to the other marines while force recon operates a lot further from the other marines.
Easiest way to explain is a waste of tax payers dollars, neither of these groups see any combat. That is a straight fact. Glorified infantrymen, when infantry sees night and day more combat than these 2 units.
@@offspringfan1288 not really true recon have their own missions that they train for but u do what u want with that
@@offspringfan1288
My brother was Force Recon. Yes they don't see the combat as much as infantry they will have to engage alone and without support if something goes wrong. In jis 33 years he was in more than a few firefights. Some missions he is not able to talk about even today. What also is not mentioned is how extensively they are trained in hand to hand combat. Make no mistake. They are trained to delete you and not a sound be made.
@@offspringfan1288 mmm they were doing snatch and grabbing HVIs in 2022 during the evacuation of Kabul. They also get so much more training than an infantryman lol about the same schooling as the rest of the SF community (sometimes more). And also don't get treated like the rest of the Marine corps. Treated more like mature adults. However you do have a higher chance of seeing combat with grunts than any specialized unit because you can deploy 3 or more times in a span of 4 years. It takes a solid 5-6 year enlistment to deploy 1 time in a special group. That's why recon, SF and Seal contacts start at 6 years. A lot of training. Unless you are a grunt, ranger, army infantry you won't deploy (longer than 10 months) more than once. Unless we are at war or they need a skill set you have on another team getting ready to deploy. Even then you'll most definitely have to extend your contract/re-enlist.
@@offspringfan1288 mmm they were doing snatch and grabbing HVIs in 2022 during the evacuation of Kabul. They also get so much more training than an infantryman lol about the same schooling as the rest of the SF community (sometimes more). And also don't get treated like the rest of the Marine corps. Treated more like mature adults. However you do have a higher chance of seeing combat with grunts than any specialized unit because you can deploy 3 or more times in a span of 4 years. It takes a solid 5-6 year enlistment to deploy 1 time in a special group. That's why recon, SF and Seal contacts start at 6 years. A lot of training. Unless you are a grunt, ranger, army infantry you won't deploy (longer than 10 months) more than once. Unless we are at war or they need a skill set you have on another team getting ready to deploy. Even then you'll most definitely have to extend your contract/re-enlist.
As an armor head, it bummed me out to see the Marines phase out tanks. That being said, their reasons are both valid and understandable.
I still think the Marines are making a mistake. Should they decrease the amount of tanks and artillery? Yes. But get rid of it? Hell no. They should still keep a few hundred tanks and artillery pieces as it has shown it's effectiveness in modern warfare
@@smithnwesson990 I can see where you're coming from, but one of the big drives behind the USMC completely dumping it's organic MBT and Artillery capacity is the war in Ukraine. This is important because the Ukrainians are proving, in combat conditions and with training and equipment not at US Military standards, just how dangerous and capable low-level drone and/or indigenous population support is. It is no longer partisans with rifles and knowledge, it's all about the internet, smartphones, and Amazon. Can you imagine trying to land an amphibious heavy force when nine out of ten civilians that can see beach posting pictures and videos of the incursion to Reddit in real-time? Followed by swarms of flying $100 Radio Shack RC toys carrying a ten-pound HE-Frag charge that can respond infinitely faster than your forces can clear the beach, let alone the LZ? It would be a massacre, with little to no expenditure on the part of the defenders. Have your tanks and artillery throw all the thunder they can dream of, it will not matter worth a damn.
Therefore, since getting stealth tech form the Brotherhood of NOD isn't a possibility, speed and flexibility is, quite literally, now the *ONLY* way to survive, let alone have a chance in hell of accomplishing a military objective.
The modern battle space is quite literally the living nightmare of every military planner and strategist in the last eighty years. In terms of individual combat power, the single infantryman and their rifle has been surpassed by the $100 drone and a grenade, and the towed tube three miles away that now knows where you are to withing six to ten meters.
Also Force Recon Marines don't stay in Force Recon Companies. They often rotate back to one of the Battalion Recon units in the past.
That was great guys! Thanks for the detail and clarifications!
Rah, happy belated birthday Marines.
Interesting comparison. It’s been many many years, but I still enjoy your channel and learn from it.👍🏽
Semper Fi 🇺🇸👍🏽
My cousin served as a Force Recon Marine, I always wondered the difference. Thank you for explaining, and thank God for the Marine Corps!!
Great video as always. Would like to see more about "regular" units that take on similar missions to their 'special operations" counterparts. Thanks for all the great information!
Happy (albeit belated) birthday Marines!
And happy Veterans day to all who are currently serving or have served!
- from an old Army LLRP and Ranger
Thank you for this video!! Helped me so damn much
It's dope to have some of my video in here. I remember watching General discharge years ago. They had really good rucking tips that saved me injuries.
I sure wish they had this in 1990.
Preciate the info I recently been talking to my recruiter to be a recon marine so additional info from ur videos help a lot. So plz keep the videos and info rolling love the work.
My dad was scouted into Force Recon in the late 50’s. He said it was the toughest thing he ever had to do and he loved it.
I served as a Recon Marine for 5 years and discharged from active duty in 2019.
The actual difference between the two is very minimal. Each major marine corps division (1st, 2nd, 3rd) has a Recon battalion. Each battalion typically has a Force company and an R/S Company (each with usually 3 platoons), as well as all the supporting units. R/S means reconnaissance and surveillance, and what this video calls “division recon”. Each platoon typically has 2-3 teams, and each team has anywhere from 5-8 guys.
Force Recon is the company that focuses on direct action and VBSS. So they specialize on small scale raids and ship assaults.
R/S or Amphibious Recon platoons (what this video called “division recon”) focuses on reconnaissance and surveillance. These platoons will focus on insertion/extract behind enemy lines to provide intel for the regular infantry guys. We typically learned advanced patrolling, counter-reconnaissance, and observation of enemy buildings, airfield, roads, etc You name it, we could watch it and provide details to the commanders. So this video got the roles mixed up.
There’s not much difference to highlight other than the areas the platoons specialize in. They all go through bootcamp, infantry school, RTC (recon training company), BRPC, and BRC. Additionally, after BRC many go right to dive school, airborne, freefall, etc.
Several years ago (meaning Iraq and Afghan times) Force Recon companies would select guys who’ve done at least one deployment or MEU. So historically, Force Recon typically had more “senior” guys, but that doesn’t mean the Amphib platoons were worse, or that all the “experienced” dudes go to force. Reconnaissance and surveillance is the bread and butter of Recon, hence the name, so all new guys usually get sent to the Amphib platoons to further improve the skills learned from BRC. Some stay in R/S teams and others want to switch to force. Once you did a deployment or MEU and proved your worth, you typically had the option to do either.
But when I was in, they just grabbed guys at random for which company you went to: force platoon or amphib platoon. I’m guessing this was done due to the overall decreasing amount of service members in the military. Less marines = less recon marines.
Hopefully this jumbled mess makes sense. If you have any questions or are looking to join I’ll do my best to help.
Don’t leave 4th recon out I’m a Force Recon Marine I went through ARS now known as BRC in 2000 I was attached to echo 4th Recon then 1st Recon otherwise everything was on point Devil Semper Fi from one of the Few and the prouder a Recon Marine
@@Usmcto didn’t mean any disrespect.
I meant 1st, 2nd, 3rd were the active duty units. 4th is the reserve unit, if I’m not mistaken? It’s based in Hawaii right?
My unit at 3rd, did some training with them back in 2016/2017 but the 4th guys were only there for a few weeks due to being reservists.
Yeah correct. 4th Force is out of Alameda, Ca. and Kbay. There is also 3rd force down in Mobile, Al. Spot on though dude.. not much difference at all and if I am not mistake they are going to 'All Domain Reconnaissance" or some other fancy name. What class were you? @@danb4751
@@sebastiansawyer9566 I was 5-15. Finished BRC around Aug-Sept. and got to go to airborne/SERE right after.
Apparently, a lot of the newer guys nowadays are getting dive, freefall, and sometimes even sniper in the pipeline right after BRC, which is pretty cool.
Yeah the new pipeline is legit. Dope man I was 2-16 so right after you. Good times and Hope all is well brother!@@danb4751
One is elite and the other is eliter.
I was just looking for info on this, thanks
Happy Veterans Day especially my to my Mother who served in the Army and now helps fight veteran homelessness. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SERVICE!!!
Happy belated birthday. How about a video on Marine Light Armored Reconnaissance next? Rah.
Happy veterans day! Also could you do a video on state defense forces. I know that they are small and underpaid, but I would like to learn more about them. Also a video on private militaries could be fun too!
Both are spectacular!
This happened to the Army. LRRS died, RSLC was gutted, C TRPs and BN Scouts have been just filled by whoever. SOF took all our talent
I was always curious as to how rslc was. The old school V Recondo patch is sick. Looking at graduation photos, it looks like a lot of ranger batt, SF, and even usaf sts guys go
Force Recon trains for and does shit that not one single SOCOM unit actually does; true Deep Reconnaissance. Force Recon Marines will operate very deep behind enemy lines with no friendly communications, no air support, nothing at all.
That makes them the most badass MF'rs on the planet if you ask me. SOCOM units always has serious air assets on tap to bail their asses out, and they never go anywhere without some kind of communications, and drone surveillance.
Force Recon Marines are creme de le creme.
They always maintain communications.
Usaf sr has entered the chat
Planning on get my ged then joining
USMC as infantrymen and thx for vid never knew difference between recon and force recon
Lmao the Warship they rappelled onto was my first ship USS Rushmore LSD 47
Veteran's Day drop! Salute.
Force should be part of MARSOC/SOCOM. MAGTF would still have Battalion Recon for Special/Deep Recon.
I agree. Force Recon should be part of MARSOC.
Well as of 2018, the Air Force changed SOWT role into Special Reconnaissance. So I feel it’d be a little redundant in SOCOM considering the Air Force guys possess the same abilities and then some
Thanks to all the veterans out there, happy veterans day and thank you for your service
Can you please drop a video on improving your swims? You have videos on running, rucking, and O-Course, but nothing on swimming or technique. Thanks boys
back in my day (80's and 90's) Force Recon functioned well IN advance of the MEF, behind enemy lines (beyond the cover of Naval gunfire), collecting intelligence to support the broader mission. There were other subsets of missions like wrangling the odd bad guy as well. Our mission was not to necessarily engage the target, but to get eyes on, and return the intel to the MEF without giving away our position (I was a DPR Marine, not DA). If you were firing your weapon, it was a sure sign that you failed your mission objective...completely. This sound boring to those who have never done it, but the pucker factor to operating so far behind the lines is high, and it takes a special kind of personality to do it properly. Training is tough, and the hours are long...but nothing beats Force Recon!
"Swift Silent and Deadly"... Semper fi.
There is still a big difference in training between the two. Along with Force will get used as QRF for DEVGRU and DELTA a lot more. Iraq changed a lot about how all specialized infantry from Ranger, Delta, SEALS, Force and Recon do their jobs what they do. Force is still trained to operate 10klicks or more from the Battalion. Ultimately I think FR will eventually be fully disbanded unless they start using it like the Army does with Rangers as a stepping stone to SF but also having their own mission set.
@@Robert-po8jnMARSOC handles the delta and DEVGRU recon missions now, not force.
@@Robert-po8jn Actually not a big difference in training. The pipeline is the same. More likely to get more training in direct action missions in Force, but besides that it is about the same. Maybe things have changed, but I was 2 years in recon battalions and 1 year with Force back in the 80's. I didn't see much difference.
3rd RECON 78-79 Brovo Co 2nd plt
1st RECON 79-82 DRP(Deep Recon Platoon / Force Recon) &
Scuba Locker NCOIC
Seems everyone forgets that there was a Platoon sized Force Recon before Force Recon Companies.
With either one if you did your job correctly you went in, got out and the bad guys never knew you were there.
Also Ranger School, Army Pathfinder School, Airborne school, static line jumps, free fall jumps, HALO Jumps, HAHO Jumps, SERE, Mountain warfare, Jungle warfare, Counter Terrorism, Counter Intelligence, Intelligence training, Basic EOD, Basic Trauma School, Suba school, Combat Diver School, CQB, advanced CQB, having to hold a 2ndary MOS, Gorilla Tactics, Booby Traps, Desert Survival, Jungle Survival, Urban Warfare, Unconventional Warfare. Also if you're FORCON Special Operations you need to know every guy on your teams objective to the OPP so if he gets killed the OPP is scrubbed, plus like I said Basic Trauma because if you're Corpsman gets killed or wounded everyone know enough to keep the wounded alive while you hump back to the Exfil Point with your wounded and OPP complete even if you were capturing an HVT. and they love to drop us a good 10Klicks from the objective. And at last minute change to 2ndary Exfil Point. Luckily especially in AFG you typically have a C130 Spectra Gunship circling your target ready to light it up if you need.
All that training and schools just to ruck for 20-30 miles and snap a few photos and leave, oh and to sit on a ship for 6 months while the SEALs and Rangers take all your missions 😂 total waste of taxpayers dollars right here.
Thanks to all my comrade veterans who served
Heck ya, I’m shipping on a recon contract on December 12
Stay cool in the pool, bro. You can do it. Til Valhalla.
Do radio recon platoon
You guys are heroes. Thank you for serving
I’ve been on a good number of these ranges in the beginning of the video
Happy Birthday Marines!
Can you guys please do an in depth video about Special Forces Assessment & Selection ( US Army SF)???
Recce Tp Uk in Unit , Brigade Recce Tp BPT loved it 24 year in the corps
I don't know if you will see this Discharge, but can you do a video on Recon Officers? Any advice on how to become one would be appreciated
Yall should do a video on the mountain warfare school and it’s badge! 😃
Marine Recon and Force Recon are like the Navy Seals of the marines 💪💪
Nowhere even remotely close to the SEALs. Not even in the same ballpark. SEALs wipe the floor with these guys.
lol, no
Don't tell that to any Force marine. You might end up wiping the floor yourself. @@offspringfan1288
@@offspringfan1288 as if you would know 🤣🤣🤣
@@offspringfan1288a fully schooled Force Recon Marine has exact same skill set as a SEAL and even more understanding of infantry tactics. Facts
I know I can’t get into these units(not even American)
I just watch these videos for writing.
2:45, dude eatin skid 😂. Damn though, videos like this makes me wish I didn’t drop from BRC
Happy Veterans Day to all who served in harm's way protecting the American people, dream and way of life against all enemies of freedom and America by any means necessary, plus Happy belated Marine Corps Birthday to the Warriors Patriots and Special Operators including Marine Force Recon and Force Recon silent professional special ops warriors 🦅🌎⚓🎖🗽
Ooh rah
The 21st Century has wrought such a wide attention to our various armed forces special units. While I appreciate how well trained and equipped these men are, together with their superior traits, I still tend to be more interested in the basic infantryman of the Army and Marines. Why? These men are the modern day Tyrannosauruses of our battlespaces. They know they’re going to have contact, sometimes massive contact, even facing combined arms against them yet they push on in the face of what they all must know is a 50/50 proposition as to whether they be going home in a body bag or with their sea bag, One of my best Marine buddies here in civilian life was a recon guy. But he started out in the FMF. Even he recently decried to me the sudden mania of many fans in our special units. Frankly, I wish there was less information on these units at all. But, since I know many people will reflexively go into high dudgeon about my point that we should not elevate our special units over our basic ground combatants. This is just my opinion. I think the mission sets for special operators and critical skills operators are, by definition, not meant or designed to take on hordes of enemy infantry, mechanized or not. To me, it takes just as much guts to know you’ll be facing similarly equipped numbers of enemy infantry at some point in a battle space as it does to get covertly inserted behind enemy lines for some black op. That is not to say that alone doesn’t take guts. It damn sure does, but those operators, unless tasked with direct action, are there to not be seen, heard or known or. But, when the enemy knows you’re coming and you’re heading to contact, that’s guts too people. This is true especially when our men don’t know how many enemy with what equipment they’re going up against. I know this channel does cover the infantry combatants, but my larger point was that these days, younger kids seem fascinated and drawn only to these special units-as if only that is honorable and noble. My answer is they are equally noble and steeped in honor.
Nice
I have no idea what you’re talking about. Infantry doesn’t see Jack shit for combat anymore. They literally NEVER leave the wire. They stand patrol and let cyber and intelligence analysts do their things. If you wanna see combat you go Rangers 75th, point blank period. Not sure where you’re getting your info from but again infantry ain’t doing squat these days.
Roper for life baby...Semper Fidelis Devil Dogs
Can you do the UK Pathfinder Platoon?
Thx!!!
Howdy from Idaho heros!
Highly recommend doing a video on Marine Corps FAST (fleet anti terror security teams), FAST is one of the lesser known SOF level tier 1 level capabilities and truly badass guys. had the honor of serving alongside them during my time in the teams
Except that FAST only does inspections 😂
@@TW-pq3hn not true my team and I were in Benghazi
@@jonathanc.9247 hey I’ve been curious abt fast, what’s the recruitment process and like deployments like?
Fast company is a gloried embassy duty assignment. They do 2 years or something with fast then come back to the infantry fleet and have no respect. Cause they didn’t do crap for 2 years and never deployed to any combat zone. They all would be corporals or sergeants with zero experience. Meanwhile you got a pfc who was knocked down rank and 2 combat deployments and a Purple Heart lol who you going to respect more ?
@@push_usmvmc2897 no Combat?? You’re kidding right? 😂 have you ever heard of a little embassy called Benghazi??
Happy Birthday Marines
Quite intense .. and all without leaving the British Isles 👌.... regular run that for me and the boys in Summer, wouldn't fancy trying to pick my GSA up on those icy hills thought lol.... I think, come the end of the vlog, you'd had enough eh, it showed in your body language etc ... a wise move to take the advice of the local 👌 I was based up there when I was in the Mob , Arbroath... we used to do mountain training up near the Ski slopes ... some harsh weather up there ..
Can you explain the radio recon ?
Could You do a video on the polish GROM?
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And we are extremely low funded with left over a gear. From other branches
@General Discharge --- Is this video actually talking about the differences between *Battalion* Recon and *Force* Recon?
Who's relationship to one another is similar to the Army's LRS detachments and LRS companies.
Both separate from MARSOC which is like the Army's Rangers.
I remember when a Marine came to my school and I asked a question "What's the difference between Force Recon and Marine Recon" He couldn't really explain it since he didn't know much about the topic, but you came to the rescue.
Though not a Marine, when this topic came up, I have had to explain the differences while serving in the U.S. Army & later in the USAF.
Next video military police vs swat comparison
I have been told that the difference between a recon marine and force recon is 25 miles.
TH-cam videos I like you to do cuz I like you one on the formally disbanded first rig another video I would like you to do is the maritime special purposes unit both Marine Corps unit that are and the Special Operations field
Hey can you guys pls make a video of security forces ravens
Before I was hurt very badly my junior year I was talking to a recruiter about becoming a Force Recon Marine and I was on track would have loved to been a force Recon Marine
woulda' shoulda' coulda'
Semper Fi my brothers! Great explanation of both!
USMC ‘73…2011
Can a 2nd lieutenant be able to join marine recon or force recon?
Originally SOG Studies&/ Operations Group(s)
What’s the REAL difference?!? Recognition and Funding. HMC(FMF) Poe, USN RET
I've noticed that there are not any videos on the MAGTAF Marine Expeditionary Force (MEF), Marine Expeditionary Brigade (MEB), or the Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU)??
It’s just different levels (usually in size) of how marines deploy. A meu is base level, and going to meb and mef are just building upon the amount people and assets
Do a video on bop sof unit
Happy Birthday USMC.
I thnk the topic needed is Recon in MOUT esp in Iraq in COIN environment
So it is like when SEALs way back used to have both UDT and SEAL Teams...but they were the exact same thing and today dropped the UDT name and simply SEAL team???
yeah, pretty much
How many years does force recon serve?
can you please do HOME LAND SECURITY please I really want to join and know what they have please and thank you.
I'm enlisting after I graduate high school in May. I'm not sure if I want to go infantry or Motor T. Does anyone have any insight?
RECONDO is a old army term. FORCECON used to have its' own selection program. Bob Coates Det 1. 2030, what will happen to the Corps?
Hopefully it’s disbanded. I served in it. The goals are unrealistic without changing the people they promote.
In 2:20 they’re at Okinawa Japan Naha Port
Love our Marine brothers.
Salute to all Veterans o7
South East Asia is covered by a LOT of jungles and in a hot war there I doubt there will be any supplies coming through on a regular basis. This "Near Peer Adversary" is a whole new ball game after 20 years of counter insurgency.
Your recon backpack must have, at least, 3 cans of Copenhagen tobacco.
Swift Silent Deadly grew up in military as child familiar with BAMC home of army medic
do Division Recon/Force Recon need Secret Clearance?
Any information about Recon in the reserves ?
Majority of these reservists are former regular or active duty Marines who transferred over to pursue fulltime schooling or seek employment in the private sector.
i remember i saw some of the recon guys are running and pting with full combat gear under 100+ degree sun. after seeing that i got my lazy ass up and start running with them in green on green pt shorts though. not as hardcore as they are
What’s the age limit , and can u join in straight from civilian fro marine recon ?
How is SERE not part of the basic pipeline for recon?
It is
@@travi2cool It was listed as an option for advanced training, not part of the basic package of schools.
@@MesaperProductions that is incorrect. It is very much apart of the pipeline
@@travi2cool I would very much think so. Just questioning the video maker, I guess.
It is.
Have you done a video on Radio Recon? If not, can you do one? I am very interested in learning more about this job and your channel is really great and educational. If anybody were to do a video on them, I would want it to be this channel.
Radio Recon Marines are basically Signal Intelligence Marines who are Recon trained. These guys go through language training in addition to Recon training. Their pipeline is Radio Recon Indoc, Airborne School, BRC, then other schools.
So what about the Marine raider teams are they just above or combination of these two divisions or teams.
Raiders are under SOCOM verses Force Recon who are under USMC command.
Here is a little secret… they’re both considered support…..for the infantry and are not the tip of the spear. They are very important for operational success.
Oh I see, so you the typical dime a dozen 0311 is the tip of the spear. Cool story broski
@@Veritas-dq2hs what was the last mission recon boys did?
@@Lifechanging99999 define mission? They definitely do work, but it's not direct action at the moment (which is mostly a tier 1 unit task nowadays).
Are you implying that 0311s are currently sent to do direct action missions that recon doesn't do? Like which?
@@Lifechanging99999 hey bro this quote is from Mattis.
This is the deadliest Battalion I have seen in Afghanistan. I don't know what they did before they got here but I want every other Battalion deploying to Afghanistan to do the same."
@@Veritas-dq2hsyep, that's why he doesn't understand what tip means.
My Uncle David Michael Patton was USMC Amphibious Recconaisance and Force Recconaisace. A fifth degree black belt in Jiu Jitsu and a Fairfax County VA MPO for 31 years. Dudes a fuckin legend
About 1 year of Technical Training, 173rd US army MAC/SOG (skysoldier),ROTC, then served 96th SAC USAF recon (death from above), The Flying Armadillo.
Whose airborn assault capacity is better between airborne regiment & 75th ranger regiment?
The Rangers is undoubtedly superior. Airborne units in the US are used for Mass Tactical Jumps to reinforce as follow on forces after the Rangers have seized the port. That's what was done in Greneda.
Swift silent and deadly is how I describe my flatulence
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