As a former Army Infantryman I had the pleasure of contracting with Marine Infantryman in Afghanistan. Although we have are differences and both will argue they’re better than the other, both groups are highly trained and will destroy any opposing force on the battlefield.
@@JesusGarcia-cs9wl Ha ha ha, former Army Grunt here. I never met a Marine Grunt I didn't like. Love you all, brothers! Infantry is Infantry! If it ain't raining....
Marines are better thas a fact unless ur sf just because there bootcamp and training along with there Pt standards I'm thinking of joining either marines or army i cant really make up my mind .
As a former 0311, the level of stress, anger, living conditions, used and abused issued gear, green weenie, and quality of life all make an unstable and pissed off warrior. Thats the secret to where Marines derive their ferocity, violence, and urge to kill. Its easier to fight your enemy when you have all this rage built up. 1/1 & 2/1.
I suspect things are very similar in the Army, but I don't know for sure. I'll happily listen to any 11 series that corrects me on this. Life is just....FRUSTRATING. Often, when a guy in a unit messes up, the guy's unit will be punished. This means you spend a lot of time "in trouble" for stuff you didn't do. In some units, you spend a lot of time fighting. Your squad might get attacked by 3rd squad and beat on each other until those pussies from 2nd platoon come over, then you units and go ball up 2d Plt. Plus, being a grunt just...HURTS. You spend so much time being hot/cold, hungry, tired, carrying heavy shit, or gasping for breath on a run or swim or bump (hike)...when you get to "vent" all of that on an enemy, it's like a nuclear explosion . It's hard to explain. Also, I don't really like these "Marines vs Army" things. I was a Marine grunt, and I think ALL grunts are my brothers. Army dogs, Brit squaddies...hell, the Roman legionaire with his pilum and gladius 2000 years ago - ALL of us are the same in the important ways.
Sorry about the autocorrect typos. Insert your dumb Marine jokes here.... Should read "hump" instead of bump, and "unite" instead of unit re: fighting. Carry on with the plan of the day Should read "hump"
Dominique Govinden Example...Imaging it’s a Friday. Generally, Friday Mornings Marines are required to form for Battalion Formation. An Inspection of the Barracks usually follows the Battalion Inspection. Thursday nights are reserved for the “field day” or cleaning of the Barracks and Individual Rooms Marines are Housed in. Fast forward to Friday Morning. On an Ideal day, once Battalion Inspection is Over, your Platoon Sgt. may have his Marines draw Weapons, Marines will clean them for the rest of the Morning and then Marines will form up in Platoon Sized elements at which point your let go for the weekend or Holiday...that’s best case! Worst Case, after you turn your Weapons bank into the Armory, your told to take everything out of your room and feint day all over again. The field day will last for hours. Worst part, while your conducting the field day, you see other Platoons laughing or talking shit, some Marines may even sympathize with your Platoon while they are hitting the highway for the weekend; Instant rage moment!!!! Or, after you turn in weapons, you go back to the Barracks to wait on the “word” which won’t come from the Company Office for a minimum of three to four hours. Meantime, you e made plans that have been screwed...Instant rage moment!!! Due to the stress, Devil Dogs stay drunk,, angry and often times can be found in the head “hiding” from working parties with a good fuck book beating their cocks due to rage and anxiety due to the Games played by NCO’s and SNCO’’s. All this is geared to keep you mad enough to kill 👌
I’ve worked with the 75th Ranger Battalion and the professionalism and dedication to the mission completion is second to none. With that said as a United States Marine I served 7 years and found the same professionalism and Esprit de corps in the Marine Corps. It comes down to who is better suited for the task at hand , not who is better Army or Marines. They are both outstanding. Semper Fidelis🇺🇸
@@xipingpooh5783hes right. You can't compare a normal marine grunt to a ranger any more then you can compare army 11b to marine recon. Its a different level of training. It really doesn't matter, we all outside stupid social media hero's fought on the same side! --xo 2/75 RLTW
My Buddy is a Marine, I was Army. Both of us been out for awhile. We pick on each other mercilessly, however nobody but nobody picks on him without getting my boot in their ass and vice versa. We are brothers. Doesn’t matter what branch you served in, you’re my brother and sister in arms. God bless all of you.
I grew up and stopped trying to argue who's better than the other. The only time I'll talk trash is if someone outside the military talks shit about the military...and Admins. Fuck those guys lol.
One thing about being in the MARINE CORPS INFANTRY is that as a GRUNT you learn to respect the job of the GRUNT regardless of what branch of service. Remember that in the MARINE CORPS only 1 in 5 MARINES is a GRUNT. It's the largest MOS in the MARINE CORPS at 35,000 of the 160,000 are GRUNTS and everyone else is just support! One thing for sure is that NOBODY wants to be a GRUNT and nobody talks shit about the GRUNTS!
Cool, the Navy/Marine Corp. terminology refers to a trash recepticle as a "GI can" Everybody gives everyone else crap. Its all good comraderie. But Marine Grunts have a high level of respect
I knew a ww2 vet . He told me about his service in the Pacific. He was at Iwo Jima , the Philippines and several other islands. He was an army tank retriever. He said he’d carry a rifle again if he had to for his country. He was 83 when he said that. I was amazed at his patriotism and willingness . Those men were everything a soldier can be. He was poor and divorced when I knew him and he worked on people’s cars to earn extra money. He used to lay on the ground on cold winter days fixing them. And then only charge people 10 dollars. It was enough to buy a meal for that day. I’ve tried to emulate him, but he was far and away a better man than me.
@@aztecwarrior6138 The Army wasn’t the main fighting force but they assisted in MacArthurs island campaign . This Vet’s name was Cletus Maley. He said they were at most of the islands of the Philippines , Iwo, I think Tarawa and some others . I know the 6 th Army was there but not sure how they assisted the Marines. And I don’t know if he was in the 6 th Army but most likely .
@@aztecwarrior6138 The 147th Infantry Regiment of the Army National Guard fought on Iwo Jima. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/147th_Regiment_(United_States)#World_War_II The regiment's next assignment would prove to be their most difficult; in the spring of 1945, the Ohioans fought in the Battle of Iwo Jima.[5] In the early days of the Marine landings, the 147th was ordered to climb from landing craft with grappling hooks to scale a high ridge about 3/4 mile from Mount Suribachi. The mission was to fire on the enemy opposing the Marine landings on the beaches below.[6] They were soon pinned down by heavy Japanese fire, and engaged in non-stop fighting for 3 months. Once the island was declared secure, the regiment was ostensibly there to act as a garrison force, but they soon found themselves locked in a bitter struggle against thousands of stalwart defenders engaging in a last-ditch guerilla campaign to harass the Americans.[7] Using well-supplied caves and tunnel systems, the Japanese resisted American advances. For three months, the 147th methodically scoured the island, using flamethrowers, grenades, and satchel charges to ferret out the enemy. 1,602 Japanese were officially credited as killed, and 867 captured, with potentially thousands more sealed up in caves using explosives. Some sources credit the regiment with killing at least 6,000 Japanese soldiers in those anonymous and merciless small unit actions.[7] In return, the 147th suffered fifteen men killed in action and 144 wounded.[8] Not many people know that.
@@randalldemichel4818 The US Army was the main ground fighting force in the Asia-Pacific Theater. The Marines had 6 divisions, but the Army had around 21 I believe. They Army fought at: Philippines, Okinawa, Saipan, Peleliu, Guam, Iwo Jima, Guadalcanal, Papua New Guinea, Burma, Aleutian Islands Sadly, a lot of Army stories in that theater are pretty much forgotten about. The Marines' role is much more famous, because they're more PR conscious and some of their battles were exceptionally bloody. But that was actually a criticism of the Navy/Marine Corps by the Army during WW2. Island hopping was a Navy/USMC obsession, many Army top brass thought those island were not worth the price. They wanted to focus on big real estate and crushing Japan's ground forces. If the Marine Corps didn't exist, the Army would never have agreed to commit large ground forces to seizing shit like Tarawa and Iwo Jima, although Peleliu was an Army fuckup.
As a Marine Vietnam veteran, I have nothing but the utmost respect for all branches. No matter your color, branch, your MOS; we all took the same oath, to all and any, we are warriors, sacrificing, dying, shedding blood on the battlefield. Semper Fi❤😂😢
Semper Fi Brother! My father was an Artillery F.O. for India Battery 3/4, along the DMZ in '66-'67. I grew up with stories about Con Tien, Camp Carroll, Dog Patch, Danang, Dongha, Operation Prairie, Operation Buffalo and countless hills like Hill 364. I served in 3rd CEB as a SAPPER in the' 90s, and my brother served our Corps as a Parachute Rigger in Iraq this last time in the Sandpit. Thanks for your service Devil! SFMF
I was 11B from 98-2009 I loved the Army and the tradition the infantry stood for and what it was. It has changed so much since I got out. My son recently joined the Marine Corps and is going to their Infantry school. I’m proud of him and all our men and women serving.
@@kg2005USMC If he's going to infantry school he earned his EGA. You go to infantry school after completing boot camp. Completing boot camp = earning your EGA! I'm still stuck on choosing Marines or Army though, mostly because of the Marines' open contract which sucks
Marines can do more things with little support and equipment. That's part of who they are. In real battle, a squad might not have any support at all and being able to work and adapt with little support is a matter of life and death.
@@Aaron-wq3jz I have 3 friends in the airforce and they all fix planes and they are all drinking at the bar by the end of the day they say its esier than a normal job but you just have higher expectatrions
I was an Army infantry guy and worked with Marines in Fallujah back in 2004 in Iraq. Both are dangerous on thier own, combined, well you saw what happened to Fallujah. One thing my buddy told me that stuck to me. 95% of the entire military is there to support infantry.
People say this as a dig, and it's idiotic logic. That logistics POG E3 is the guy that ensures the 11B's have food, ammo and equipment to do their job. Without them the 11B's die within a week. A grunt without support is a KIA.
@@VB-3 Your not lying, but my logic does make some sense. The whole thing is a machine and all branches one way or another all work together to create the war machine. I know its a dig, thing is, us infantry guys gotta talk shit because we all know secretly, we have the worst fuckin job lol. There is pride in it, but man, its hard work and a useless skill in the civilian world.
@FRANK45CASTLE Generally speaking, there is a trade off when choosing a job in any branch where you need to choose “useful to my eventual civilian career” or insane street cred and endure a lot of suck. Most jobs sit somewhere in the middle, but that street cred can’t be earned anywhere else. You can always learn a new skill from scratch when you get out, but you can’t get that brotherhood and experience once you’re out. I was security forces in the AF, but if I could do it over again knowing what I know now, I would probably choose marines, since that was the experience I wanted but was talked out of as a 17 year old.
@based_circuit Infantry is for sure the wrong job to every carry towards a civilian career. We all know that, we gotta church ourselves up somehow lol. It's a necessary job of course, but any young person I met I tell them to join the airforce and get a job that carrier over to a civilian career.
“90 pct of the military exists to support combat arms” may be more accurate. Infantry, artillery and tanks have fought side by side throughout modern warfare
I was a combat engineer in the marines and I had the opportunity to train with an infantry company for a few days and one thing I remember is that they never bitched moaned or complained in front of us. And I learned a lot from those guys as well. Us Marines will always talk shit on the army but we have nothing but respect for the army. We both signed that contract.
Combat engineer from 89 to 97.. went thru Sapper school and trained along our Army counter part. We gave each other hell but there was no doubt about the ability of the other. They trained just as hard. I would stand beside any of them in combat..
I served in both active duty Army and Active Duty Marine Corps, both times in the infantry. I the Army I was a 11B infantryman in the 10th Mountain Div. and as an 0331 machine gunner in the 1st Marine Division, so I have a unique insight into this. Yes, they both locate, close with and destroy the enemy through fire and maneuver BUT they are both very different. Everything from equipment, training, leadership, comradery and mission. Even the lingo is totally different. I will state this as fact, that I got better training, more schools and better deployments in the Marines - no joke. We were almost always training and doing useful things in the Corps. In the Army I probably spent 75% of my time in the barracks playing Play Station. The one big difference in training (not counting deployments - that's a a whole nother ball of wax), was that in the Marines we trained Monday - Friday and I almost had every weekend off. Other than Jungle Warfare School and a couple of CAX in 29 Palms at the Battalion level, we never spent more than 5 days out in the field. In the Army though we would go out for 2 - 3 weeks straight at a time. That part SUCKED! In my opinion both do a great job at what they do (for the most part) but if had to go back in it would be the Marines without a doubt. This is also true, I still talk to a lot guys I served with in the Corps on a weekly basis and I have not talked to one - not one soldier that I served with in the Army since I got out. That's the culture difference.
I served in the 8th ID! I was 203 grenadier, a rifleman, a 60 gunner, and even manned the .50. (Mechanized Infantry) We trained every single weekday, and had most weekends off. Unless it was Reforger, or Graf/Hohenfels. Which was a massive 33 day FTX, in ass-deep snow, where we never saw anything even remotely resembling garrison. PT was every day, even on the weekends. Our Platoon Sergeant, Company 1SG, Battalion SGM, Brigade SGM, all the way up to Division, were all tabbed...With the Company 1SG being tabbed, AND scrolled. So, yah....We trained our asses off! I hear what you're saying. But remember, the Army is MASSIVE! And a lot of the training you get can be (and usually is) unit specific. Just saying.
Sounds like you didn't bond with your fellow soldiers brotha. At least you did so with your fellow Marines. The bond amongst Grunts has no equal. Too bad your army brothers fell short.
@@elevenb6967 The Marine Corps is the same across the board when it comes to the type of units. So all infantry units will have the same mentality, training, and esprit de corps. The only thing that will differ is leadership competency. I’ve worked with different infantry units in the Army and it’s like I was working with a different military each time. Each unit had a different mentality, different training, and different espirit de corps. I worked with dudes from 2/327 “No Slack” out of Ft. Campbell and they felt extraordinarily different from the soldiers from 10th Mountain from Ft. Drum and the other guys from Ft. Polk. So it makes sense that as far as training, effectiveness, and camaraderie are involved there’s a variance when it comes to Army units. Basically what I’m saying is that you will have very different experiences being in one Army infantry unit versus another. But that isn’t the case in the Marine Corps. Every unit feels the same. I’m pretty sure it’s by design. The only exception I’ll make is 1/7 Charley or “Suicide Charley”. But they’re the only exception. Chris Kyle’s (famous SEAL sniper) opinion is similar to mine “ When you’re working with Army and Marine Corps units, you immediately notice a difference. The Army is pretty tough, but their performance can depend on the individual unit. Some are excellent, filled with hoorah and first-class warriors. A few are absolutely horrible; most are somewhere in between. In my experience, Marines are gung ho no matter what. They will all fight to the death. Every one of them just wants to get out there and kill. They are bad-ass, hard-charging mothers.”
@@LLTactical So, are you seriously telling me, that there are absolutely no shitbirds in the USMC? I find that EXTREMELY hard to believe. The MC is literally a FRACTION of the size of the Army. 70% of them, are pogs. It stands to reason that a good percentage of them (combat arms) will be hard chargers. And say what you want about the 'every Marine is a rifleman' thing. I said that to an 0311 friend of mine last year, at Thanksgiving dinner, and he's STILL laughing. In the Army, even if the unit is less than stellar, you will always have killers within the ranks. Lastly, did you read Kyle's book, from cover to cover? Because I don't remember that specific quote about the Army vs. Marines anywhere in there.
@@LLTactical Whats different about 1/7? I was with 3/7 and we never thought of 1/7 any differently. We felt bad about 2/7 because they just lost so many guys on each deployment it was crazy.
As a former Army Infantryman, I served alongside Marine Infantryman in Afghanistan. We never sized each other up, we were cooperative on missions, and never thought any less of each other. Sure it may be a lot different in the rear, but when you're overseas, we're all wearing the same uniform...
@@stevepark2643 Especially POGs at the VA who say they did grunt shit when they deployed and tell fake stories in PTSD group to get a service connection they didn't earn. When are we gonna handle that mess?
Hey guys high schooler here thinking bout joining military after they kick out grand papa Biden. Any ways, After quick google/reddit search on what pog is I have found out that these cowards make way more money than you when they get out! Any ways ima try to be a pog! Thanks for your service though! 🫡
I cross trained with the army units while I served. It was AWESOME. It's nice knowing that your fellow MARINE has your back and its even nicer knowing your BIG BROTHER THE ARMY GUYS GOT YOUR BACK JUST LIKE YOUR FELLOW MARINE!
I was army infantry, 11B and 11M. We harassed each other about who was better, but when it comes down to it, each has the others back to the end. Both are very well trained.
I was station there with 1st Cav back in 2003-2006. It wasn’t bad, had fun there. These new generation of kids these days have too much distraction with social media and smart phones. Back then I actually went out met people in person & had fun. Didnt have to “Friend Request” anyone.
As a former 11 groundpounder, there were a few times we trained alongside the marines. Of course, there was plenty of rivalry between the two-but, when pogues started to chime in, regardless of their MOS, we grunts put aside our differences, and did what grunts do. :)
@@SkilletsUSMC I remember my unit went to fort Irwin, army base, to train. I was with my Staff Sgt, and he called an army PFC over. He came over chewing gum and said "what's up sarge". I nearly fainted. I panicked. My SNCO, with a deer in the headlights look, just said "get the hell away from me".
I was an 0311 in the Corps for seven years. I never served in the Army, but I served with some Army units alongside us, and they did just fine. I believe there are differences, and some of them are important, in my opinion, that separate the Marine Corps from every other branch. It isn't our equipment, or our "superior fighting skills." It's the mindset and the small unit leadership that is instilled into you even as a boot ass private. I was a fireteam leader the day I arrived to the FMF. I was a Platoon Commander as a 21 year old Corporal in command of 39 Marines and a Navy Corpsman. Not one of the officers or SNCOs in my unit had any doubts in my abilities to lead men into combat even as an E4. In the Army, it seemed like all of the Squad Leaders were old as f*** Staff Sergeants. They seemed to be quite heavy on rank, whereas in the Marine Corps, rank was not nearly as important as ability to do the job, but the Marine Corps's ranks are younger as a whole, probably because not very many men are crazy enough to reenlist as a grunt after their first enlistment. In the Navy, it's hard to get people out because they all want to reenlist, but then again, they aren't humping 30 miles through the desert on a regular basis and sleeping in the mud with only a helmet for a pillow. The Army infantry gets my respect, though. Grunts are Grunts no matter what is sewn above their left breast pocket.
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You’re right and I know. I was on the invasion 2003, attached to SF and Completed two tours in Iraq with the 124TH infantry . Former Marine & Soldier CAR, CIB
"They seemed to be quite heavy on rank, whereas in the Marine Corps, rank was not nearly as important as ability to do the job" What does that even mean, man? If you think army grunts don't think getting the job done is important, then you clearly don't know army infantry.
Man you left out the best part of Army Infantry duty stations, OVERSEAS LOCATIONS. I lived a life I’ll never regret thanks to my 6 years I spent in Germany!!!!!!
@@davidfrost8975 That's your guys only overseas duty station though now that 2nd ID is back in WA State, plus you risk going to 82nd if you try to get sent to the 173rd lol. Then again, while we only have 3rd Recon in Oki, I'd much rather be at Camp Pendleton than Fort Polk, Hood, or Bragg.
Former Marine grunt here, this is an excellent summary/comparison of both branches infantry units. Even though I’m bias to the Marine Corps, I’m glad to see an honest look without being bias to one side over the other. Great work!
@null Yeah the whole “Marine take a base and army defends that base” explanation is just horribly stupid and not true. Definitely gives people the wrong idea.
@@pharaoh4866 Only if you willfully choose to misinterpret the message. What is being said is that Marines are assault infantry specialized in the attack - which is very true. We are not structured, equipped, or particularly trained to hold in the defense for long periods of time, and our culture has been intentionally developed to be one of aggressive offensive action as opposed to defense. The strategic function of the Marine Corps is attack. In a large-scale conventional war against a near-peer opponent, we would take the ports the army needs to bring their big toys to the fight, then hand it over to them and move on to another objective. That's in no way saying "the army can't/doesn't attack" and it's disingenuous to claim that's what's being said. Of course the army is capable of conducting offensive operations. Literally nobody has ever said otherwise. But they're not specialized in it like the Marine Corps is and their mission tasking includes holding ground/defensive operations more often than the Marines do.
@@DrewHop325 take your partisan anti-Marine bias tf out of this discussion. Literally nothing you said has any bearing on what I said or the discussion at large.
@@DrewHop325 I don't know what alternate reality you're living in, but literally nothing you just said is true. I wasn't "pro-Marine," I stated in a very neutral way the LITERAL FACTS that the Marine Corps is an assault force that is trained, equipped, conditioned, and organized around the attack. I then even wrote AN ENTIRE FUCKING PARAGRAPH that you clearly didn't bother to read, stating that none of that means the army cannot or does not attack too. LITERALLY ALL I SAID is that the Marine Corps is specialized specifically to the attack while the army is not because they conduct a broader range of missions. WHAT in that is possibly "pro-Marine" or "anti-army?" Answer: absolutely fucking nothing. You just didn't fucking read it. You took the very typical army position of seeing something that is NOT negative about the Marines and losing your fucking mind. Reading comprehension is key. Especially if you've ever made a joke about Marines being dumb, which given your clear bias I would almost guarantee that you have. Also, your notion of historical fact is so wrong it's comical. The Marines literally assaulted Chateau Thierry and the Bois de Belleau but yeah nah apparently they "sat there and waited for the army to attack through 12 other countries to come save them." Yeah, okay guy. Because the AEF definitely fought through 12 fucking countries in WWI. Fucking idiot.
@@CrowDawg11 pretty sure when the marine corps was first founded it was created to defend army camps while the army went and did combat it wasn't turned into a combat based branch until after it was reformed because the marine corps was shut down and seen as usless as just base defense and started a more aggressive approach to battle still doesn't do as much as the army but I guess that's why yall are nicknamed bullet sponges. 😂
I was 82nd airborne, cross-trained with marines in amphibious assaults. If I were to use one word to describe the difference between army infantry and marines I would say discipline. The marines are much more disciplined.
@rolgor I can agree with marines being more disciplined. But, there is one downside to that. One that I experienced personally. Being more disciplined, put us first in line to go where no grunt should ever go....Peacekeeping in a foreign war Zone with insane ROE's like; You will not take a magazine and insert it into your weapon without permission (we called it Sitting Duck Policy) After mag insertion, you will keep your weapon on "Safe" and not fire until you are given permission. (aka Hurry Up and Wait.........To die). Our positions' defensive preps were not "defense in depth". They were "defense in hollowness" (aka Veneer depth defense) . That's why I decided to become a Scout/Sniper after my first combat tour..... autonomy of action (no zeros within miles of you).... and the superior training.........and being the only Marines allowed to wear sunglasses while in uniform.
As someone who served 10 years as a 03 in the USMC and now I’ve been 11bB4 in the Army for the last 5 years, they both have their place. Both are skilled in their profession. However, if it came down to it and could only choose one to be in a firefight with, I’d choose the Marines every time.
I'd choose the Army. MUCH bigger, better kit, and a massive budget. Also, with badass units too numerous to mention, it's not even close. Again, that's for ME.
@folgore1942 Sweet mother of Jesus, will you guys PLEASE dismount that boot camp $hit? FAHK, man! It seriously makes you look silly. I'll say it again, and as many times as marines come at me with this bull$hit. You're learning basic $hit. How "soft" the drill sergeants are, means absolutely jack $hit, when it comes to lethality. Because THAT'S what matters. Plus, every soldier knows that the REAL hardcore training starts when you get to your PDS. I say again, you guys act as if learning basic $hit, is the absolute pinnacle of your entire military career. Because it's all you talk about. Not impressed, man. Congrats on drill instructors screaming at you more loudly. Not sure what kind of prize you're looking for. But, please tell me how SPECIFICALLY you're "highly more trained". Where combat arms are concerned. I'll wait......
@@LooniJoose you clearly seem to have not been in a fire fight. Numbers do not matter. Know your enemy. You don't send the WHOLE army so size does not matter
A minor correction: the US Army is not "twice the size" of the US Marine Corps. When you look at active duty plus the reserve components, the Army is over one million Soldiers, FIVE TIMES the size of the Marine Corps. Just wanted to bring that point up.
@@alexzander7386 The US Marine Corps is a huge force by global standards, though. It's bigger than the armies/ground forces of numerous countries. For example, the British Army only has around 110,000 soldiers (including reservists), while there are only 6,000 Royal Marines. That's why slogans like "The Few, The Proud" sound strange to them.
As a Retired Marine I say it does not matter in which you are in, We may tease each other in peace time but if you attack anybody in the US Military or our Country you will fighting us all together be it Army, Marine, Navy, or Air Force. We will bring the weight of our forces down on your head. SEMPER FI to all my Brother and Sister Warriors Past, Present, and Future. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
I was in the Air Force during the ending of Viet Nam 73-75, Marines, and U S. Army 2006-2015. All can be verified. All branches are the best in the world at what they do. I have total respect and love for all my brothers and sisters in arms, no matter which branch.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
My brother just graduated 11b and is going to airborne school. I on the other hand am up for the Marine OCC selection board in March and would like to pursue the infantry MOS even though its competitive.
Hope you mean you're gonna be a Maverick. The best CO's I had, in combat, were both enlisted grunts first...then went officer. Just Sayin...Good Luck, brother.
I was a Radio Operator in the Marines, definitely one of the most versatile mos's, definitely lots of opportunities in that field. I myself spent 12 months in Okinawa, lots of good memories
I started out a regular radio operator with 3rd bn. 11 marines out at 29 palms...lat moved to forward observer while being detached to 1/7 , 2/7, and 3/7 on a rotating consistent basis...i ate breathed, slept, drank, partied, even went ta jail with 7th marine infantry men....great experience....they play hard...the train hard...they fight hard...no room for pussies n chickenshits....9 months out of the year, we were in the desert training. Ask ANYBODY stationed at 29 palms....the name itself, will get attention from across a room or make eyebrows rise. If a stint in the military could be considered prison, then 29 palms is hard time with no parole. All you do is train , train, train....
He did a good a good job on this. As a USMC Desert Storm Mortarman, I always wondered how the Army infantry was organized. Semper Fi to all the branches!!
I’m a retired Army Infantryman who served in combat beside Marine Infantrymen, the biggest difference I could see was that the Marines/Navy consider them to be overly expendable. Army Grunts know we’re expendable, but Navy/Marine leadership takes that to an unacceptable degree.
I call that the Chesty Pulver Effect. It's stupid to waste highly trained and motivated young Americans when firepower can do most of the work. The Russians always do that, and look how that is going for them.
GD, love the intro, and even though you kept it KISS, I'm glad you paid the proper respect to the Devil Dogs. Your channel is getting better, nice work. yeah I'm an asshole.
Being a Light Infantry 11C was crazy... Rucking 81mm Mortars WITH all the standard packing list, having to know the entire job of the 11B AND be smart enough to understand the coreolis effect. It was like going to college WHILE learning how to anex souls. Was uh HELL of uh time!!! 🤘
There’s 3 guys to a mortar team and the mortar is broken down into three main parts. Then you guys trade off humping with the parts it’s not that bad. Base plate. Tube and site. Take it easy…
@@lorenzovalenzuela8078 first off you have 4 men to a team,Gun Leader, Gunner, Assistant Gunner, Ammo Bearer. There's 5 things to carry, sight, tube, bipod, baseplate and 3 rounds of the 81mm and 5 of the 60mm Mortar. Now, please, elaborate this "trade off" you speak of... Not like you forgot the bipod or, you know, rounds to shoot. What else can you tell me? Cherry...
@@lorenzovalenzuela8078 O, RIGHT... You also forgot 1 member of the Gun. Forgot a member, piece of the Mortars equipment, and rounds to fire... BooBooCherryf*
I'd love to see a legit video on Army Combat Engineering vs USMC Combat Engineering. Both communities are so misunderstood, and their capabilities are overlooked.
I took AIT {Advanced Infantry Training] at Ft.Ord in 1966. I consider it about the best of many courses I took in the Army. Although I became an Armor officer, in RVN I advised an exceptionally good ARVN battalion and my AIT experience served me well.
Even though my dad was a career navy man, I chose the army and went to the 82nd Airborne Division as 11-B1p. Got to go to many great schools. As much as we roast each other's branches I will always have mad respects for my brothers in arms. Their band is undeniably the world's best.
I went to join the Marines in 1984 however,I had a GED and at the time you needed a diploma to join.i dropped out and got a GED to join not knowing I couldn't.i ended up in the army and I am glad I did!! I went to better stations I went to air assault school, airborne, combat leadership coarse (pre ranger) and ranger school.my last assignment was 7th infrantry div light at fort ORD.i know I had a much better career than I would of in the corp.i trained with many Marines at different schools and they solidified my opinion.
Me too! I was a USAF 81152A (Law Enforcement SPC K-9) Later became a USA 11B (INF) , 95B (MP), 91B (Medic), and finally a 91C30 (Licensed Nurse)................. I graduated a multitude of Army and Air Force schools (truly Arduous)......Especially the 64.5 week Practical nurse course..... I a Desert storm Vet BTW................ P.S. Oh and at camp Lackland we had a marine and navy platoon next to our flight at police academy......
I was going to join the Marines but I couldn't pass the ASVAB my score was not high enough a army recruiter saw me and helped me join the army, I felt like a failure for failing the ASVAB score, but the army picked me up and I got a lot of training I worked in the motor pool and I have skills I can use to this day, I will always love the marines but I am glad it happens this way and I joined the army instead. I got to be stationed in Colorado Springs was a very fun time and besides I got to hang out with marines anyways.
Nothing against the Marine Corp, but I know a lot of Jarheads that switched over to the Army for a better career, equipment and gear, more challenging schools to go to and faster promotions. Had two prior service marines in my Airborne Infantry Unit at Bragg who got out of the marines and came back into the Army and went Airborne and got stationed at Bragg. They loved being a Paratrooper and were impressed with how better funded the Army was and how much more we deployed. They both wished they had went Army all along.
I remember when a prior service Marine came into my Guard unit(hey if the state's willing to pay for 12 credits a semester, why not play Army once a month), and was talking about why he left the Corps, said his 1st Sgt was around 35ish and looked like he was in his 50's.
Marines usually join the Army because the Marines don’t think highly of people who get out and try to come back in. You usually lose rank and if you’ve been out over a year, you’d be lucky if they take you back. If a soldier left the Army for the Marines, they’d start from scratch, which is why it is rare. Funding in the Marines isn’t as bad pre Afghanistan war and I don’t think there’s much if anything conventional Army has over Marines. Marines are using the M27 with silencers and some have opscore, which is SOF level equipment. Deployed more for the Army than Marines, I doubt it. Marine infantry is way smaller and they have standing MEU deployments outside direct combat ones. Marines were the lead in Fallujah, Najaf, and were a large part in Ramadi.
This video lost me at “army is more of an occupational force”. The army infantry assaults just as much as Marine infantry. It used to be the case that Marine infantry got more training in their pipeline but that is not the case today. The new 22 week OSUT is a huge increase in training that Army infantry gets.
@@grunt2926 I’m not saying Army infantry is better than Marine infantry. I think it really depends on the infantryman. I’m just saying that I hate the stereotype that Army occupies and Marines assault. In the GWOT the Army and Marines worked side by side.
@@echoromeo4218 kinda true. I was in Marine infantry from 08 to 13 and now an Army reserve pog, I say marine infantry is better and honestly better compaired to Rangers do to flexibility. I really don't like comparing the two branches because they are fundamentaly different.
Optional, depends on the unit you are with. If you are assigned to a airborne or air assault outfit they will send you to those schools to be qualified. If you are in a leg unit you can request those schools but you better be top notch to get those slots. Peace
@@thesimpofallstreets6232 Hell yeah it is optional, I like being on the ground myself, not to fond of jumping out out of a perfectly functioning airplane.
First negative comment out of all of these great comments you must of gotten turned away and sent next door to the army office at the recruiting station
My father was a 'two tour' Vietnam Vet ... as a Marine!... he signed up for a third tour.... but the war at that! Point was pretty much over.... and because he was a two year college student with 4.0... grades before going to Nam. ... they pulled a 'Saving private Ryan' on him... he came back to the States.... and then went Army!!!... after graduating from the university of Nebraska!... he then became an Army Recruiter for the Army Reserves. ... for 20 plus years... E8
As a US Army Infantryman Veteran, Salute to the USMC Infantry. We are cut from the same cloth and the POGS will never understand us. I only ever had issues with Marine POGs who would see that I was in the Army and act like they are better than me. However everytime I would spot a Marine Infantryman, we know our kind. We would simply look at each other and grin. Seriously when I would run into Marine Pogs in Afghanistan, they really couldn't tell Or care I literally convoyed through Kandahar City to get to KAF. That i have blood stains on my Boots and haven't showered in weeks.
Army vet here. I was going to join the Marines first, but I couldn't pass the final two tests at MEPS....... 1. My head wouldn't fit inside a mason jar. 2. The found out my parents weren't related until they were married.
@@natedog805402 Currently there is no requirement to attend Army boot camp for prior service Marines. This includes OSUT for Cav, which is an Armor MOS, technically a support MOS, not Infantry.
They fight two different missions. This is like comparing a quarterback and running back. One exists to help the other. Sometime we get away from that. But it’s true
@@Golgi-Gyges Hmm, I dunno. Marines seem primarily more like the offensive force to advance in a war, while the Army primarily occupies the land that is captured by the Marine Corps and hunkers down, as they are better equipped and have more manpower to hold it down should the base ever be attacked in an attempt to capture it back. Marines on the other hand are meant to be mobile infantry.
@@cappuccinosnephew1382 and it never happens like you said. When you become a king of your own land, you can make that your military doctrine. You are another example of believing the hype.
@@Golgi-Gyges Nah, it's the truth lmao. Marines are the most mobile infantry since it's a branch of the Navy and it's small, plus Marines get three more weeks of training than the Army cause y'all got 10 but Marines got 13. Three weeks more is a whole lot of time to learn something extra. I can already tell that you mad over me saying this one truth, and that is that the Marine Corps is the most feared and respected branch for a reason.
"Two jobs in the Military. The Infantry and those who support The Infantry." Often Army and Marine Corp infantry consider themselves more kin then the other MOS's in there branch.
Did you know that as a U.S. Marine, you can switch to the Amy without having to do with basic training / boot camp and receive an automatic rank promotion? You see there is no "debate" as to which branch is the most challenging.
@@erickelly4107 did you know as a marine infantryman with a combat action ribbon, if you switched to the army and tried to convert it to a combat infantryman badge you would not rate. It converts to a combat action badge because your level of combat if inferior to that seen by the Army. 6 month combat deployments vs 12-18 month. No comparison. See? I can use regs to support dumbass opinions too. And no, they do NOT receive any promotion. They either keep their rank or get reduced. And they may have to repeat basic training/osut depending on the job they choose and how long they’ve been out.
@@michaelmatthias9495 Yeah you are clearly DELUSIONAL. Nobody with a functioning brain believes the Army is somehow even remotely as difficult/ challenging as the Marine Corps. Keep dreaming buddy if it helps you sleep at night… The Army hands out awards like CANDY compared to the Marine Corps. You have to EARN the title “Marine” a Marine doesn’t have to EARN anything to join the Army but INFACT receives an automatic RANK (not some little “as was there” ribbon) promotion. Hurts doesn’t it? Again absolutely no “debate” to by had here it’s LONG settled.
I’m in a weird situation. I’m Aussie, just got married and am looking to start a life and live permanently in the US. I want to join a service, firstly to serve the country that’s taking me in, but secondly also for a brighter future for eventually my children, you think on my situation the Army is better suited or the Marines?
@@BudgetGainsByJJ I believe you have to be a U.S. citizen. So, I don't think you'll be able to until you get your citizenship. I don't know your age, but the citizenship process takes years. 25 years ago 29 y.o. was the maximum age for enlistment, but I'm told that now they let new recruits in, in their late 30's. So don't give up hope. Cross that bridge when the time comes.
My pops was a 4th infantry army in Vietnam vet and had nothing but good things to say about marines he said they were the most professional and would preform under all conditions
To answer ur question I preferred the army infantry. When I signed up he asked me what I wanted to do and I said infantry if I dont get infantry I dont sign up end of discussion he said damn we don't see that very often, do u wanna jump out of airplanes too and I said fuck yes I want to jump out of airplanes! He said done take this up front and go swear in. Off to Fort Benning Georgia I went! I was 17 years old. My dad was a drill Sargent in the infantry and his last words to me was "remember son they can kill u but they can't eat u!" 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
Damn man now it's super difficult to get airborne in your contract. I wish my recruiter would have told me the same thing yours told you lmao. Thank you for your service.
@@Remington-wl7jp my recruiter didn't offer me Airborne it was the guy at meps that got it for me. Thanks and ur welcome man it was an absolute honor to have served my country and to be able to do it in the elite unit of the 3/187 Iron Rakkasan of the 101st screaming eagles and to be a member of that brotherhood is something I'll never forget. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
The myth about the marines being the first in and the army taking over needs to be put to rest. Both forces have their perspective attributes to bring to the battlefield. However, the Army has always been and will always be the main invasion force since it is the largest organization within within U.S. military, has the most man power, and the better technology and funding out of the two. The marines are an amphibious based invasion forces. Although they play a large combat role in mainland areas, they are not the primary warfighting forces for mainland combat.
@@brandonbp122 most medal of honor recipients goes to the United States Army most earned in 1 war was the Korean War. D day was the US Army swarming the beaches we been pushing the enemy first for a long ass time
It's funny when POGs think GRUNTS are low asvab achievers or just low IQ in general what sounds like you need more competence filing paper work or calling for fire? Cooking chow or understanding and implementing maneuver warfare? Driving a 7 ton or implementing raids? Passing out CIF gear or calling in a 9 line under life or death circumstances? I can go on and on, although I'll agree their are some dummies me being one at times, GRUNTS are more intelligent than what is perceived or believed. Maybe where we fall short is picking the GRUNTS in the first place.🤔 😆 Every Marine is a rifleman but not every Marine is the RIFLEMAN. #LEVELSTOTHISSHIT
@@USMC-zc5nd I was going to join the Marines. I got down to the last two tests at MEPS and failed them both so I couldn’t join. 1. My head wouldn’t fit Into a mason jar. 2. They found out my parents were not related until after their wedding.
@@USMC-zc5nd yeah, we used to get made fun of all the time. Even though most had some sort of college degree. And, we were qualified to do pretty much any job put before us-but no one ever came and did our job. As a grunt, I have worked in the kitchen, as an MP, a medic, an artilleryman, a truck driver-you name it, we probably did it at some point. Thats what no one else got-we need the entire army to operate and do our job. And, when you cant do yours-we step in to get it done. We dont do sick call, we dont call it a day at 1700, we have to be fully capable of doing all kinds of jobs at any moment. As you pointed out, we grunts in the Army had similar stuff: land nav, radio, medical quals (I was a combat lifesaver, which was a pre-medic medic, I guess you would call it, lol), call in 9 lines, call for fire from navy ships, planes, helicopters, arty, or mortars-sometimes from foreign countries; develop intel, gather intel, understand local cultures, and thats just some of the shit off the top of my head. Like you state, yes, there are some idiots out there-but, we had a LOT of responsibility, and, often times, all the other MOS jobs fell on our own shoulders.
Just saying...20 years now 11B MSG and I have never in my life been handed over a base or any of the like from a Marine unit that took it in 5 deployments. In the invasion of Afghanistan I don't remember seeing any Marines, but there were plenty of 10th MTN and 101st. They both do the exact same job the difference is not attitude, training, or funding, the only difference is size.
In theory what he said is what's supposed to happen. In reality, I only remember it happening once in Iraq during a 24 year Marine Corps career from '87 to '12. That being said, the Army and Marine Corps both had their AO's and managed them with out the other generally speaking.
As an 11A for 8 years, I’ve met many army and marine infantry officers. Bottom line: both recognize the lethality of the enlisted infantryman. On the battlefield, the foreign threat won’t be able to tell the difference between the two
Great video! Although the Army is often called upon to secure an area, I have yet to hear anyone officially describe us as having "occupation" as a primary mission. Except for certain designated units (the Ranger Battalions, etc.) the Army is the "attrition" force. We are designed to do maintain the majority of combat activity in a certain Area of Operation (AO). The Marine Corps and the Ranger Regt. will sieze control of a specific point (very often a 'hard' target) and the Army will exploit that break in the enemy's line. In a perfect world the Marines or Rangers would then be withdrawn to conserve their strength for the next mission. Unfortunately, there is still a lot of resistance and envy between the 'orthodox' infantry and specialized infantry units. This usually leads to excessive casualties among specialty assault elements who in general are not equipped for protracted ground combat.
Orthodox (Army) Infantry then simply needs to "loosen up" ASAP & train & serve alongside specialized Army infantry/Airborne (paratroop) units much more often, nationwide/worldwide thus immediately & effectively reducing & eventually eliminating that gap you mention sir (very doable too) while also increase joint training with USMC Infantry & foreign Allied NATO & Non NATO Infantry forces. A Win-Win either way.....
My brother once told me that the biggest difference between Marine Infantry and Army Rangers is that the rangers are airborne (he was a marine). After watchin this video and seeing the comments, I think I understand what he meant
Marines don’t get as many qualification schools but there are Marine specific schools that are oriented toward the leader. The quality of your unit will determine how well trained you are. I’ve seen extraordinary units and absolute shitbag units. It’s all a roll of the dice which you’ll get.
True which is more reason why the Corps must finally & immediate fix that problem if we are truly to consider ourselves as a world class super elite light infantry fighting force
@@ronantubridy5019 No. 1) USACAPOC is not all of the Army’s CA and PSYOP capability. It is merely the functional command that contains all the USAR CA and PSYOP units. That does not account for the active component CA brigade or PSYOP groups. 2) training requirements are different for USAR and active component CA and PSYOP Soldiers. USAR PSYOP doctrinally supports conventional forces while active component PSYOP are consider ARSOF. 3) The purpose of CA and PSYOP forces are magnitudes of difference. So, no, they don’t work as cross-functional teams.
@@ronantubridy5019 I'm not gonna say it doesn't happen. However, our sister psyop unit shared a building with us and we rarely did much with them. Sample size of one though.
The most important thing I learned about from being a U.S Marine is when you in the shit, the enemy doesn't care branch of service, an American US Army boy will have my back and this American US Marine will have his back, no matter our capabilities or training, we're just trying to win and survive the shit storm were in, it hurts to see my brothers in arms go out, or torn to shreds, so save the rah rah shit for when your back in the world. SEMPER FI BROTHER IN ARMS.
@@meatiest1989 When you’re working with Army and Marine Corps units, you immediately notice a difference. The Army is pretty tough, but their performance can depend on the individual unit. Some are excellent, filled with hoorah and first-class warriors. A few are absolutely horrible; most are somewhere in between. In my experience, Marines are gung ho no matter what. They will all fight to the death. Every one of them just wants to get out there and kill. They are bad-ass, hard-charging mothers. Chris Kyle, American Sniper: The Autobiography of the Most Lethal Sniper in U.S. Military History
As a former Army Infantryman I had the pleasure of contracting with Marine Infantryman in Afghanistan. Although we have are differences and both will argue they’re better than the other, both groups are highly trained and will destroy any opposing force on the battlefield.
True. But even the marines know the army is better. 😏😎
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@@JesusGarcia-cs9wl Ha ha ha, former Army Grunt here. I never met a Marine Grunt I didn't like. Love you all, brothers! Infantry is Infantry! If it ain't raining....
Marines are better thas a fact unless ur sf just because there bootcamp and training along with there Pt standards I'm thinking of joining either marines or army i cant really make up my mind .
@@chillbill5923 Jeez Bro, let's get some spelling, grammar, and coherence going.
As a former 0311, the level of stress, anger, living conditions, used and abused issued gear, green weenie, and quality of life all make an unstable and pissed off warrior. Thats the secret to where Marines derive their ferocity, violence, and urge to kill. Its easier to fight your enemy when you have all this rage built up. 1/1 & 2/1.
When it comes to 0311 stress, where does that originate from? Does it come from being cussed at and sworn at by other people, I don't understand.
Ah the GREEN WEENIE 🥒🪖🙄
I suspect things are very similar in the Army, but I don't know for sure. I'll happily listen to any 11 series that corrects me on this.
Life is just....FRUSTRATING. Often, when a guy in a unit messes up, the guy's unit will be punished. This means you spend a lot of time "in trouble" for stuff you didn't do.
In some units, you spend a lot of time fighting. Your squad might get attacked by 3rd squad and beat on each other until those pussies from 2nd platoon come over, then you units and go ball up 2d Plt.
Plus, being a grunt just...HURTS. You spend so much time being hot/cold, hungry, tired, carrying heavy shit, or gasping for breath on a run or swim or bump (hike)...when you get to "vent" all of that on an enemy, it's like a nuclear explosion .
It's hard to explain.
Also, I don't really like these "Marines vs Army" things. I was a Marine grunt, and I think ALL grunts are my brothers. Army dogs, Brit squaddies...hell, the Roman legionaire with his pilum and gladius 2000 years ago - ALL of us are the same in the important ways.
Sorry about the autocorrect typos. Insert your dumb Marine jokes here....
Should read "hump" instead of bump, and "unite" instead of unit re: fighting.
Carry on with the plan of the day
Should read "hump"
Dominique Govinden Example...Imaging it’s a Friday. Generally, Friday Mornings Marines are required to form for Battalion Formation. An Inspection of the Barracks usually follows the Battalion Inspection. Thursday nights are reserved for the “field day” or cleaning of the Barracks and Individual Rooms Marines are Housed in. Fast forward to Friday Morning. On an Ideal day, once Battalion Inspection is Over, your Platoon Sgt. may have his Marines draw Weapons, Marines will clean them for the rest of the Morning and then Marines will form up in Platoon Sized elements at which point your let go for the weekend or Holiday...that’s best case! Worst Case, after you turn your Weapons bank into the Armory, your told to take everything out of your room and feint day all over again. The field day will last for hours. Worst part, while your conducting the field day, you see other Platoons laughing or talking shit, some Marines may even sympathize with your Platoon while they are hitting the highway for the weekend; Instant rage moment!!!! Or, after you turn in weapons, you go back to the Barracks to wait on the “word” which won’t come from the Company Office for a minimum of three to four hours. Meantime, you e made plans that have been screwed...Instant rage moment!!! Due to the stress, Devil Dogs stay drunk,, angry and often times can be found in the head “hiding” from working parties with a good fuck book beating their cocks due to rage and anxiety due to the Games played by NCO’s and SNCO’’s. All this is geared to keep you mad enough to kill 👌
I’ve worked with the 75th Ranger Battalion and the professionalism and dedication to the mission completion is second to none. With that said as a United States Marine I served 7 years and found the same professionalism and Esprit de corps in the Marine Corps. It comes down to who is better suited for the task at hand , not who is better Army or Marines. They are both outstanding. Semper Fidelis🇺🇸
You can’t compare a SOCOM unit to regular Marine infantry
@@thehunter9149 22nd MAU which is now MEU, which is designated special operations. I love Keyboard professors🤓
@@xipingpooh5783hes right. You can't compare a normal marine grunt to a ranger any more then you can compare army 11b to marine recon. Its a different level of training. It really doesn't matter, we all outside stupid social media hero's fought on the same side! --xo 2/75 RLTW
Ranger regiment*
@@thehunter9149 Yes, Rangers are SF, but at their core they are light infantry.
My Buddy is a Marine, I was Army. Both of us been out for awhile. We pick on each other mercilessly, however nobody but nobody picks on him without getting my boot in their ass and vice versa. We are brothers. Doesn’t matter what branch you served in, you’re my brother and sister in arms. God bless all of you.
I grew up and stopped trying to argue who's better than the other. The only time I'll talk trash is if someone outside the military talks shit about the military...and Admins. Fuck those guys lol.
One thing about being in the MARINE CORPS INFANTRY is that as a GRUNT you learn to respect the job of the GRUNT regardless of what branch of service.
Remember that in the MARINE CORPS only 1 in 5 MARINES is a GRUNT. It's the largest MOS in the MARINE CORPS at 35,000 of the 160,000 are GRUNTS and everyone else is just support! One thing for sure is that NOBODY wants to be a GRUNT and nobody talks shit about the GRUNTS!
Amen, my brother, Amen
GIs,jarheads,and squids
Cool, the Navy/Marine Corp. terminology refers to a trash recepticle as a "GI can"
Everybody gives everyone else crap. Its all good comraderie. But Marine Grunts have a high level of respect
General Discharge: Premature *Discharge* vs Erectile Dysfunction
I see the Garand Thumb commenters have started their takeover.
“Alright let’s go over the capabilities, missions, and opportunities for both.”
Vaginal discharge all the way
@@1dayatatime2023 Yesss Siiirrr
I'll take PD any day of the week vs. ED!!!!
I knew a ww2 vet . He told me about his service in the Pacific. He was at Iwo Jima , the Philippines and several other islands. He was an army tank retriever. He said he’d carry a rifle again if he had to for his country. He was 83 when he said that. I was amazed at his patriotism and willingness . Those men were everything a soldier can be. He was poor and divorced when I knew him and he worked on people’s cars to earn extra money. He used to lay on the ground on cold winter days fixing them. And then only charge people 10 dollars. It was enough to buy a meal for that day.
I’ve tried to emulate him, but he was far and away a better man than me.
They don't make very many men like that anymore.
I never knew the Army was on iwo Jim’s
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The Army wasn’t the main fighting force but they assisted in MacArthurs island campaign . This Vet’s name was Cletus Maley. He said they were at most of the islands of the Philippines , Iwo, I think Tarawa and some others . I know the 6 th Army was there but not sure how they assisted the Marines. And I don’t know if he was in the 6 th Army but most likely .
@@aztecwarrior6138 The 147th Infantry Regiment of the Army National Guard fought on Iwo Jima.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/147th_Regiment_(United_States)#World_War_II
The regiment's next assignment would prove to be their most difficult; in the spring of 1945, the Ohioans fought in the Battle of Iwo Jima.[5] In the early days of the Marine landings, the 147th was ordered to climb from landing craft with grappling hooks to scale a high ridge about 3/4 mile from Mount Suribachi. The mission was to fire on the enemy opposing the Marine landings on the beaches below.[6] They were soon pinned down by heavy Japanese fire, and engaged in non-stop fighting for 3 months. Once the island was declared secure, the regiment was ostensibly there to act as a garrison force, but they soon found themselves locked in a bitter struggle against thousands of stalwart defenders engaging in a last-ditch guerilla campaign to harass the Americans.[7] Using well-supplied caves and tunnel systems, the Japanese resisted American advances. For three months, the 147th methodically scoured the island, using flamethrowers, grenades, and satchel charges to ferret out the enemy. 1,602 Japanese were officially credited as killed, and 867 captured, with potentially thousands more sealed up in caves using explosives. Some sources credit the regiment with killing at least 6,000 Japanese soldiers in those anonymous and merciless small unit actions.[7] In return, the 147th suffered fifteen men killed in action and 144 wounded.[8]
Not many people know that.
@@randalldemichel4818 The US Army was the main ground fighting force in the Asia-Pacific Theater. The Marines had 6 divisions, but the Army had around 21 I believe. They Army fought at:
Philippines, Okinawa, Saipan, Peleliu, Guam, Iwo Jima, Guadalcanal, Papua New Guinea, Burma, Aleutian Islands
Sadly, a lot of Army stories in that theater are pretty much forgotten about. The Marines' role is much more famous, because they're more PR conscious and some of their battles were exceptionally bloody. But that was actually a criticism of the Navy/Marine Corps by the Army during WW2. Island hopping was a Navy/USMC obsession, many Army top brass thought those island were not worth the price. They wanted to focus on big real estate and crushing Japan's ground forces. If the Marine Corps didn't exist, the Army would never have agreed to commit large ground forces to seizing shit like Tarawa and Iwo Jima, although Peleliu was an Army fuckup.
As a Marine Vietnam veteran, I have nothing but the utmost respect for all branches. No matter your color, branch, your MOS; we all took the same oath, to all and any, we are warriors, sacrificing, dying, shedding blood on the battlefield. Semper Fi❤😂😢
But it's soo damn fun to make fun of them 😂
Semper Fi devil
Welcome home brother, thank you for serving 🦅
@@smythe7480we make fun of you too. I’ve got some crayons in the basket for upcoming Halloween
@@Zidane0724 I like the darker colors most blue black brown... yellow is ok on certain days
Semper Fi Brother! My father was an Artillery F.O. for India Battery 3/4, along the DMZ in '66-'67. I grew up with stories about Con Tien, Camp Carroll, Dog Patch, Danang, Dongha, Operation Prairie, Operation Buffalo and countless hills like Hill 364. I served in 3rd CEB as a SAPPER in the' 90s, and my brother served our Corps as a Parachute Rigger in Iraq this last time in the Sandpit. Thanks for your service Devil! SFMF
I was 11B from 98-2009 I loved the Army and the tradition the infantry stood for and what it was. It has changed so much since I got out. My son recently joined the Marine Corps and is going to their Infantry school. I’m proud of him and all our men and women serving.
Semper Fi! Did he earn his EGA? 🇺🇸
@@kg2005USMC If he's going to infantry school he earned his EGA. You go to infantry school after completing boot camp. Completing boot camp = earning your EGA! I'm still stuck on choosing Marines or Army though, mostly because of the Marines' open contract which sucks
Rah
It’s woke now. No shark attack allowed.
Did he get transition surgery first or is he waiting til he graduates Naval infantry boot camp?
“The Marine Corps is small, and their funding isn’t the best.”
Thank you for putting it so delicately 🙏🏻
Stay tier 2 because of the budget
Marines can do more things with little support and equipment. That's part of who they are. In real battle, a squad might not have any support at all and being able to work and adapt with little support is a matter of life and death.
🤣🤣🤣 Semper Fidelis! 🇺🇸 Loved the comment.
@@mikelbrenn111 / They take their ranks pretty seriously too b/c if a leader dies in combat, the next senior in line must take over immediately.
Its improved vastly (funding) from the shit levels we endured in early-mid 1990s
I'm a Sailor and I owe 12 Marines my life and I can never repay that debt and will never forget them
If you dont mind what happened?
I thank each and every Corpman I was with
@@hemanths2230 he probably had a little something happen and the marines had saved his live
Are u a corpsman?
I too am interested in hearing your story brother
To save you time:
Army protecc
Marines attacc
But most importantly
Air Force kicc feet bacc
Imagine try to go at the best branch
I thought their shoes & technicolor uniforms were kinda fucked up....
@@Aaron-wq3jz I have 3 friends in the airforce and they all fix planes and they are all drinking at the bar by the end of the day they say its esier than a normal job but you just have higher expectatrions
@@formswift3480 exactly, the best branch
@jeff lee them technicolor uniforms crack me up!
I was an Army infantry guy and worked with Marines in Fallujah back in 2004 in Iraq. Both are dangerous on thier own, combined, well you saw what happened to Fallujah. One thing my buddy told me that stuck to me. 95% of the entire military is there to support infantry.
People say this as a dig, and it's idiotic logic. That logistics POG E3 is the guy that ensures the 11B's have food, ammo and equipment to do their job. Without them the 11B's die within a week. A grunt without support is a KIA.
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Your not lying, but my logic does make some sense. The whole thing is a machine and all branches one way or another all work together to create the war machine. I know its a dig, thing is, us infantry guys gotta talk shit because we all know secretly, we have the worst fuckin job lol. There is pride in it, but man, its hard work and a useless skill in the civilian world.
@FRANK45CASTLE Generally speaking, there is a trade off when choosing a job in any branch where you need to choose “useful to my eventual civilian career” or insane street cred and endure a lot of suck. Most jobs sit somewhere in the middle, but that street cred can’t be earned anywhere else. You can always learn a new skill from scratch when you get out, but you can’t get that brotherhood and experience once you’re out. I was security forces in the AF, but if I could do it over again knowing what I know now, I would probably choose marines, since that was the experience I wanted but was talked out of as a 17 year old.
@based_circuit Infantry is for sure the wrong job to every carry towards a civilian career. We all know that, we gotta church ourselves up somehow lol. It's a necessary job of course, but any young person I met I tell them to join the airforce and get a job that carrier over to a civilian career.
“90 pct of the military exists to support combat arms” may be more accurate. Infantry, artillery and tanks have fought side by side throughout modern warfare
I was a combat engineer in the marines and I had the opportunity to train with an infantry company for a few days and one thing I remember is that they never bitched moaned or complained in front of us. And I learned a lot from those guys as well. Us Marines will always talk shit on the army but we have nothing but respect for the army. We both signed that contract.
I was also. 9th Engineers and 1st CEB. '89 to '93.
Army infantry here. Love my devil dogs brother. Worked with them on every deployment I was on. 10/10 would fight alongside again lol
1st CEB! MAC and Charlie company! 2011-2015
Rivals at home but brothers in the field.. HOOAH! #Army #Marines
Combat engineer from 89 to 97.. went thru Sapper school and trained along our Army counter part. We gave each other hell but there was no doubt about the ability of the other. They trained just as hard. I would stand beside any of them in combat..
I served in both active duty Army and Active Duty Marine Corps, both times in the infantry. I the Army I was a 11B infantryman in the 10th Mountain Div. and as an 0331 machine gunner in the 1st Marine Division, so I have a unique insight into this. Yes, they both locate, close with and destroy the enemy through fire and maneuver BUT they are both very different. Everything from equipment, training, leadership, comradery and mission. Even the lingo is totally different. I will state this as fact, that I got better training, more schools and better deployments in the Marines - no joke. We were almost always training and doing useful things in the Corps. In the Army I probably spent 75% of my time in the barracks playing Play Station. The one big difference in training (not counting deployments - that's a a whole nother ball of wax), was that in the Marines we trained Monday - Friday and I almost had every weekend off. Other than Jungle Warfare School and a couple of CAX in 29 Palms at the Battalion level, we never spent more than 5 days out in the field. In the Army though we would go out for 2 - 3 weeks straight at a time. That part SUCKED! In my opinion both do a great job at what they do (for the most part) but if had to go back in it would be the Marines without a doubt. This is also true, I still talk to a lot guys I served with in the Corps on a weekly basis and I have not talked to one - not one soldier that I served with in the Army since I got out. That's the culture difference.
I served in the 8th ID! I was 203 grenadier, a rifleman, a 60 gunner, and even manned the .50. (Mechanized Infantry) We trained every single weekday, and had most weekends off. Unless it was Reforger, or Graf/Hohenfels. Which was a massive 33 day FTX, in ass-deep snow, where we never saw anything even remotely resembling garrison. PT was every day, even on the weekends. Our Platoon Sergeant, Company 1SG, Battalion SGM, Brigade SGM, all the way up to Division, were all tabbed...With the Company 1SG being tabbed, AND scrolled. So, yah....We trained our asses off! I hear what you're saying. But remember, the Army is MASSIVE! And a lot of the training you get can be (and usually is) unit specific. Just saying.
Sounds like you didn't bond with your fellow soldiers brotha. At least you did so with your fellow Marines. The bond amongst Grunts has no equal. Too bad your army brothers fell short.
@@elevenb6967 The Marine Corps is the same across the board when it comes to the type of units. So all infantry units will have the same mentality, training, and esprit de corps. The only thing that will differ is leadership competency. I’ve worked with different infantry units in the Army and it’s like I was working with a different military each time. Each unit had a different mentality, different training, and different espirit de corps. I worked with dudes from 2/327 “No Slack” out of Ft. Campbell and they felt extraordinarily different from the soldiers from 10th Mountain from Ft. Drum and the other guys from Ft. Polk. So it makes sense that as far as training, effectiveness, and camaraderie are involved there’s a variance when it comes to Army units. Basically what I’m saying is that you will have very different experiences being in one Army infantry unit versus another. But that isn’t the case in the Marine Corps. Every unit feels the same. I’m pretty sure it’s by design. The only exception I’ll make is 1/7 Charley or “Suicide Charley”. But they’re the only exception.
Chris Kyle’s (famous SEAL sniper) opinion is similar to mine “ When you’re working with Army and Marine Corps units, you immediately notice a difference. The Army is pretty tough, but their performance can depend on the individual unit. Some are excellent, filled with hoorah and first-class warriors. A few are absolutely horrible; most are somewhere in between. In my experience, Marines are gung ho no matter what. They will all fight to the death. Every one of them just wants to get out there and kill. They are bad-ass, hard-charging mothers.”
@@LLTactical So, are you seriously telling me, that there are absolutely no shitbirds in the USMC? I find that EXTREMELY hard to believe. The MC is literally a FRACTION of the size of the Army. 70% of them, are pogs. It stands to reason that a good percentage of them (combat arms) will be hard chargers. And say what you want about the 'every Marine is a rifleman' thing. I said that to an 0311 friend of mine last year, at Thanksgiving dinner, and he's STILL laughing.
In the Army, even if the unit is less than stellar, you will always have killers within the ranks.
Lastly, did you read Kyle's book, from cover to cover? Because I don't remember that specific quote about the Army vs. Marines anywhere in there.
@@LLTactical Whats different about 1/7? I was with 3/7 and we never thought of 1/7 any differently. We felt bad about 2/7 because they just lost so many guys on each deployment it was crazy.
'There is no better friend, no worse enemy than a U.S. Marine.' - Mad Dog Mattis
So a marine saying they’re the best 🤣😂
@@flight2k5 🗿
@@a.moreno3572 he never said that 🤣
@@a.moreno3572 😂🤣 doesn’t mean he thought they were better. The myth of the marines is strong with this one
@@a.moreno3572 😂🤣 no not really. The kool aid is strong with this one
As a former Army Infantryman, I served alongside Marine Infantryman in Afghanistan. We never sized each other up, we were cooperative on missions, and never thought any less of each other. Sure it may be a lot different in the rear, but when you're overseas, we're all wearing the same uniform...
All Professionals
Former Marine & Soldier 🇺🇸
11 Bravo all the way! I was a U.S. Army Infantryman for 14 years 1981-95. I have no regrets and would do it again in a heartbeat. 🙂 🇺🇸
What other skills did u learn or gain other than infantry?
dallas yap leadership
@@Terrell845 well I mean that's not uncommon. Soldiers serving a long time would eventually learn some leadership skills too.
@@dallasyap3064 How to operate radios, weapons knowledge, hand-to-hand combat, leadership skills, geography and land navigation, etc.
@@oliverb.8995 that's great
They both are badass. They don’t stand down to anyone! Oorah!!
Only Marines say "Oorah!" not the Army
All except the Russians lmfao
Semper Fi
@Tim Burm1 Source?
@@LethalByChoice His asshole.
Respect to my fellow 11's and 03's. No greater joy on this earth than calling yourself Infantry. -- Former 11M
@Satanic Microchip v2 You misspelled heroes.... You're definitely 11B.
" LEGS " BUT " ARMOR RULES "
" TREADHEADS ROLL "
@@treadhead Ha, we Mech guys actually dismount.
There’s nothing like being an 11B.
No more 11M, all either bravos or cucks now
As a former Marine grunt, one thing both Army Grunts and Marine Grunts can agree on, at least we arent POGs
Fk yes. All these fgt pogs watching mad they don't got what it takes. Thanks for serving bro.
....yep and man is this modern world full of POG's. 😑
@@stevepark2643 Especially POGs at the VA who say they did grunt shit when they deployed and tell fake stories in PTSD group to get a service connection they didn't earn. When are we gonna handle that mess?
Hey guys high schooler here thinking bout joining military after they kick out grand papa Biden. Any ways, After quick google/reddit search on what pog is I have found out that these cowards make way more money than you when they get out! Any ways ima try to be a pog! Thanks for your service though! 🫡
Former Marine AND Air Force POG checking in. Mad respect to grunts and other ground forces. I like blue crayons btw.
As a former Marine I’m going say Semper Fi, but I have a lot of buddies in the Army so much respect to the Army infantry
Agreed!
There’s no such thing as a “former” Marine. Salute.
SEMPER FIDELIS Brother, 3/7 Weapons Co 93-97, won't count reserve duty.
I cross trained with the army units while I served. It was AWESOME. It's nice knowing that your fellow MARINE has your back and its even nicer knowing your BIG BROTHER THE ARMY GUYS GOT YOUR BACK JUST LIKE YOUR FELLOW MARINE!
I served as a Navy Corpsman attached to the Marines. 2/5 and 2/9. I also served as a combat medic with the Army infantry.
No shit! I was with 2/9 sta. What years?!
@@JohnWick-uq1su 92-93
I was Army Infantry and we had a corpsmen. The lead corpsmen always referred us as his guys.
Thanks!
As an ex Army special forces soldier , I have nothing but love for the USMC.
Rah
I got shot in the face by a ex Army special forces medic lt col. We are all a bunch of fuckin clowns 🤣 lightfighter 7th ID 11C
@@johngillespie3409 HAHAHAHA I FUcking Love you that made my night
Nice3
@@johngillespie3409 God damn! Thats fuckin wild
I spent 9.5 years as an 11B in the US Army 2005-2014 🇺🇸
Thank you for your service 🇺🇸
Same!
I was born in 2005
I was born in 2005 thanks for your service
How can I pull the Larry David in "Curb Your Enthusiasm" in a comment section?
Both can scare the living shit out of the enemy when they're invading you.
I was army infantry, 11B and 11M. We harassed each other about who was better, but when it comes down to it, each has the others back to the end. Both are very well trained.
Fort hood is a station, I hear it’s more like a deployment lmao.
It is that bad or is it long???
I was station there with 1st Cav back in 2003-2006. It wasn’t bad, had fun there. These new generation of kids these days have too much distraction with social media and smart phones. Back then I actually went out met people in person & had fun. Didnt have to “Friend Request” anyone.
@@articbreezgaming2143 it was a joke because of the bases history. Lol
Damn serial killers running around there 😂😂😂
Hella weirdos in that base killers 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
As a former 11 groundpounder, there were a few times we trained alongside the marines. Of course, there was plenty of rivalry between the two-but, when pogues started to chime in, regardless of their MOS, we grunts put aside our differences, and did what grunts do. :)
Yes... Drunk beer and kick ass
Fuck yes, my dude. I wouldn't correct a Marine POG for trash talking an army POG, but he better watch it when talking to a grunt from another service.
As we grunts have always done ...and always will.
Semper Fi
@@SkilletsUSMC I remember my unit went to fort Irwin, army base, to train. I was with my Staff Sgt, and he called an army PFC over. He came over chewing gum and said "what's up sarge". I nearly fainted. I panicked. My SNCO, with a deer in the headlights look, just said "get the hell away from me".
@@SkilletsUSMC yeah, the Grunt connection is definitely stronger than the branch connection
Prior Service USMC ( 02 July 1987- 01 July 1991) and US Army ( 08 January 1993- 17 December 1998) , Semper Fidelis and This We'll Defend!!🇺🇸🦅🗽⚔️❤️
And you still fill out the date like you are in lol
I was an 0311 in the Corps for seven years. I never served in the Army, but I served with some Army units alongside us, and they did just fine. I believe there are differences, and some of them are important, in my opinion, that separate the Marine Corps from every other branch. It isn't our equipment, or our "superior fighting skills." It's the mindset and the small unit leadership that is instilled into you even as a boot ass private. I was a fireteam leader the day I arrived to the FMF. I was a Platoon Commander as a 21 year old Corporal in command of 39 Marines and a Navy Corpsman. Not one of the officers or SNCOs in my unit had any doubts in my abilities to lead men into combat even as an E4. In the Army, it seemed like all of the Squad Leaders were old as f*** Staff Sergeants. They seemed to be quite heavy on rank, whereas in the Marine Corps, rank was not nearly as important as ability to do the job, but the Marine Corps's ranks are younger as a whole, probably because not very many men are crazy enough to reenlist as a grunt after their first enlistment. In the Navy, it's hard to get people out because they all want to reenlist, but then again, they aren't humping 30 miles through the desert on a regular basis and sleeping in the mud with only a helmet for a pillow. The Army infantry gets my respect, though. Grunts are Grunts no matter what is sewn above their left breast pocket.
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too forevers
You’re right and I know. I was on the invasion 2003, attached to SF and Completed two tours in Iraq with the 124TH infantry .
Former Marine & Soldier CAR, CIB
You were a in a Platoon Commander position as a Corporal?
He may have meant Platoon Sergeant
"They seemed to be quite heavy on rank, whereas in the Marine Corps, rank was not nearly as important as ability to do the job"
What does that even mean, man? If you think army grunts don't think getting the job done is important, then you clearly don't know army infantry.
Man you left out the best part of Army Infantry duty stations, OVERSEAS LOCATIONS. I lived a life I’ll never regret thanks to my 6 years I spent in Germany!!!!!!
I know right? Completely left out the 173rd Airborne Brigade in Italy too.
@@davidfrost8975 That's your guys only overseas duty station though now that 2nd ID is back in WA State, plus you risk going to 82nd if you try to get sent to the 173rd lol. Then again, while we only have 3rd Recon in Oki, I'd much rather be at Camp Pendleton than Fort Polk, Hood, or Bragg.
Former Marine grunt here, this is an excellent summary/comparison of both branches infantry units. Even though I’m bias to the Marine Corps, I’m glad to see an honest look without being bias to one side over the other. Great work!
@null Yeah the whole “Marine take a base and army defends that base” explanation is just horribly stupid and not true. Definitely gives people the wrong idea.
@@pharaoh4866 Only if you willfully choose to misinterpret the message. What is being said is that Marines are assault infantry specialized in the attack - which is very true. We are not structured, equipped, or particularly trained to hold in the defense for long periods of time, and our culture has been intentionally developed to be one of aggressive offensive action as opposed to defense. The strategic function of the Marine Corps is attack. In a large-scale conventional war against a near-peer opponent, we would take the ports the army needs to bring their big toys to the fight, then hand it over to them and move on to another objective.
That's in no way saying "the army can't/doesn't attack" and it's disingenuous to claim that's what's being said. Of course the army is capable of conducting offensive operations. Literally nobody has ever said otherwise. But they're not specialized in it like the Marine Corps is and their mission tasking includes holding ground/defensive operations more often than the Marines do.
@@DrewHop325 take your partisan anti-Marine bias tf out of this discussion. Literally nothing you said has any bearing on what I said or the discussion at large.
@@DrewHop325 I don't know what alternate reality you're living in, but literally nothing you just said is true.
I wasn't "pro-Marine," I stated in a very neutral way the LITERAL FACTS that the Marine Corps is an assault force that is trained, equipped, conditioned, and organized around the attack.
I then even wrote AN ENTIRE FUCKING PARAGRAPH that you clearly didn't bother to read, stating that none of that means the army cannot or does not attack too. LITERALLY ALL I SAID is that the Marine Corps is specialized specifically to the attack while the army is not because they conduct a broader range of missions.
WHAT in that is possibly "pro-Marine" or "anti-army?" Answer: absolutely fucking nothing. You just didn't fucking read it. You took the very typical army position of seeing something that is NOT negative about the Marines and losing your fucking mind.
Reading comprehension is key. Especially if you've ever made a joke about Marines being dumb, which given your clear bias I would almost guarantee that you have.
Also, your notion of historical fact is so wrong it's comical. The Marines literally assaulted Chateau Thierry and the Bois de Belleau but yeah nah apparently they "sat there and waited for the army to attack through 12 other countries to come save them." Yeah, okay guy. Because the AEF definitely fought through 12 fucking countries in WWI.
Fucking idiot.
@@CrowDawg11 pretty sure when the marine corps was first founded it was created to defend army camps while the army went and did combat it wasn't turned into a combat based branch until after it was reformed because the marine corps was shut down and seen as usless as just base defense and started a more aggressive approach to battle still doesn't do as much as the army but I guess that's why yall are nicknamed bullet sponges. 😂
I was 82nd airborne, cross-trained with marines in amphibious assaults. If I were to use one word to describe the difference between army infantry and marines I would say discipline. The marines are much more disciplined.
@rolgor I can agree with marines being more disciplined. But, there is one downside to that. One that I experienced personally.
Being more disciplined, put us first in line to go where no grunt should ever go....Peacekeeping in a foreign war Zone with insane ROE's like;
You will not take a magazine and insert it into your weapon without permission (we called it Sitting Duck Policy)
After mag insertion, you will keep your weapon on "Safe" and not fire until you are given permission. (aka Hurry Up and Wait.........To die).
Our positions' defensive preps were not "defense in depth". They were "defense in hollowness" (aka Veneer depth defense) .
That's why I decided to become a Scout/Sniper after my first combat tour..... autonomy of action (no zeros within miles of you).... and the superior training.........and being the only Marines allowed to wear sunglasses while in uniform.
Must have been a pogue....
@@tjmul3381 Is it difficult to get the opportunity to enter scout sniper school if you qualify?
Very much so. As an Army guy. Its too hit or miss on our side. Thats why I never wanted to leave my unit.
@@tjmul3381 there are more downside of not being discipline tho
As someone who served 10 years as a 03 in the USMC and now I’ve been 11bB4 in the Army for the last 5 years, they both have their place. Both are skilled in their profession. However, if it came down to it and could only choose one to be in a firefight with, I’d choose the Marines every time.
I'd choose the Army. MUCH bigger, better kit, and a massive budget. Also, with badass units too numerous to mention, it's not even close. Again, that's for ME.
@folgore1942
Sweet mother of Jesus, will you guys PLEASE dismount that boot camp $hit? FAHK, man! It seriously makes you look silly. I'll say it again, and as many times as marines come at me with this bull$hit. You're learning basic $hit. How "soft" the drill sergeants are, means absolutely jack $hit, when it comes to lethality. Because THAT'S what matters. Plus, every soldier knows that the REAL hardcore training starts when you get to your PDS.
I say again, you guys act as if learning basic $hit, is the absolute pinnacle of your entire military career. Because it's all you talk about. Not impressed, man.
Congrats on drill instructors screaming at you more loudly. Not sure what kind of prize you're looking for.
But, please tell me how SPECIFICALLY you're "highly more trained".
Where combat arms are concerned.
I'll wait......
@Folgore1942 I'm gonna stop you at "numbers doesn't mean anything in a firefight", you're fired. Do not pass Go - Do not collect $200. You're done.
@@LooniJoose you clearly seem to have not been in a fire fight. Numbers do not matter. Know your enemy. You don't send the WHOLE army so size does not matter
I have a marine buddy in my guard unit as infantry, he said it's all the same sh*t
A minor correction: the US Army is not "twice the size" of the US Marine Corps. When you look at active duty plus the reserve components, the Army is over one million Soldiers, FIVE TIMES the size of the Marine Corps. Just wanted to bring that point up.
Thank you for pointing that out. The Corps is the smallest military force--even below the GG--that's why even a cook is qualified to be a rifleman.
@@platoon2047 Even smaller than the Coast Guard? Wow I didn't know that!
@@LA_Commander the USMC is roughly 180,000 strong last I checked, which sounds like a lot but is a half of a percent of the us population
@@alexzander7386 not even half its 0.052 percent of the U.S population that’s half of 1 percent of 1
@@alexzander7386 The US Marine Corps is a huge force by global standards, though. It's bigger than the armies/ground forces of numerous countries. For example, the British Army only has around 110,000 soldiers (including reservists), while there are only 6,000 Royal Marines. That's why slogans like "The Few, The Proud" sound strange to them.
As a Retired Marine I say it does not matter in which you are in, We may tease each other in peace time but if you attack anybody in the US Military or our Country you will fighting us all together be it Army, Marine, Navy, or Air Force. We will bring the weight of our forces down on your head. SEMPER FI to all my Brother and Sister Warriors Past, Present, and Future.
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Thanks guys, nice job. Former Grunt, USMC. Shout out to all grunts!
I was in the Air Force during the ending of Viet Nam 73-75, Marines, and U S. Army 2006-2015. All can be verified. All branches are the best in the world at what they do. I have total respect and love for all my brothers and sisters in arms, no matter which branch.❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
My brother just graduated 11b and is going to airborne school. I on the other hand am up for the Marine OCC selection board in March and would like to pursue the infantry MOS even though its competitive.
good luck man
Were you selected?
Hope you mean you're gonna be a Maverick. The best CO's I had, in combat, were both enlisted grunts first...then went officer. Just Sayin...Good Luck, brother.
I was a Radio Operator in the Marines, definitely one of the most versatile mos's, definitely lots of opportunities in that field. I myself spent 12 months in Okinawa, lots of good memories
I started out a regular radio operator with 3rd bn. 11 marines out at 29 palms...lat moved to forward observer while being detached to 1/7 , 2/7, and 3/7 on a rotating consistent basis...i ate breathed, slept, drank, partied, even went ta jail with 7th marine infantry men....great experience....they play hard...the train hard...they fight hard...no room for pussies n chickenshits....9 months out of the year, we were in the desert training. Ask ANYBODY stationed at 29 palms....the name itself, will get attention from across a room or make eyebrows rise. If a stint in the military could be considered prison, then 29 palms is hard time with no parole. All you do is train , train, train....
You can also be stationed at Kaneohe Bay, Marine Corps Base, Hawaii for U.S. Marine Corps Infantry. Japan as well.
Just pcs'd from 3/3 Kbay. I loved it.
KBay rules! 😎
Theres like 18 other Army locations for Infantry they missed. I think they just put the major commands.
I was 3/3 Kilo way back from ‘04 - ‘07.
Afghan in ‘04/‘05 and Iraq in ‘06.
Semper Fi brother.
Okinawa all the way baby.
He did a good a good job on this. As a USMC Desert Storm Mortarman, I always wondered how the Army infantry was organized. Semper Fi to all the branches!!
I don't know why, but I've always had a crazy amount of admiration for the Marine Corps. Gives me goosebumps hearing about you guys
I’m a retired Army Infantryman who served in combat beside Marine Infantrymen, the biggest difference I could see was that the Marines/Navy consider them to be overly expendable. Army Grunts know we’re expendable, but Navy/Marine leadership takes that to an unacceptable degree.
I call that the Chesty Pulver Effect. It's stupid to waste highly trained and motivated young Americans when firepower can do most of the work. The Russians always do that, and look how that is going for them.
1st: mission accomplishment 2nd: troop welfare
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Can you do the Navy vs Air Force there security forces
Do navy aws/awr
GD, love the intro, and even though you kept it KISS, I'm glad you paid the proper respect to the Devil Dogs. Your channel is getting better, nice work. yeah I'm an asshole.
@@JoselleWolf how about parody video of Air Force Recruiter vs a Video Game Tester
Thank you for making this video
Being a Light Infantry 11C was crazy... Rucking 81mm Mortars WITH all the standard packing list, having to know the entire job of the 11B AND be smart enough to understand the coreolis effect. It was like going to college WHILE learning how to anex souls. Was uh HELL of uh time!!! 🤘
There’s 3 guys to a mortar team and the mortar is broken down into three main parts. Then you guys trade off humping with the parts it’s not that bad. Base plate. Tube and site. Take it easy…
@@lorenzovalenzuela8078 first off you have 4 men to a team,Gun Leader, Gunner, Assistant Gunner, Ammo Bearer. There's 5 things to carry, sight, tube, bipod, baseplate and 3 rounds of the 81mm and 5 of the 60mm Mortar. Now, please, elaborate this "trade off" you speak of... Not like you forgot the bipod or, you know, rounds to shoot. What else can you tell me? Cherry...
@@lorenzovalenzuela8078 O, RIGHT... You also forgot 1 member of the Gun. Forgot a member, piece of the Mortars equipment, and rounds to fire... BooBooCherryf*
@@lorenzovalenzuela8078 you only forgot a member of the team, a piece of equipment AND rounds to fire... BooBooCherryF
@@tankeater waa waa waa 😩
The real question you should be asking is: which branch of grunts can sweep up the motor pool faster?
For real we are getting some great training for our future janitorial careers
That's why you go light
Everone has to do Two years of Reserve...
My Unit just Painted Trucks...
Kinda Pissed me off....
I did 2 years of Inactive reserves Never had to report fuck that shit
@@Jeremy-ul3it i Bolted....
After i found out all they wanted to do was paint asvaps @ Moffet Field..
I'm a former 0311 . Infantry work is hard for both Soldier and Marine . Each has a job to do .
Agreed!
but marines kill, army sleeps 🥱
@@mothertruckerff 😐
@@mothertruckerff have you served? lol
I'd love to see a legit video on Army Combat Engineering vs USMC Combat Engineering. Both communities are so misunderstood, and their capabilities are overlooked.
They are Trying to Control To Control ..
the Mississippi...
& Fuckin Hurricanes...
@@nicknixon6198 You are referring to the Army Corps of Engineers, a completely different thing than combat engineers.
@@usmcvet0313
Yeah....
Nobody's shooting at them...
Army will win that everyday. Move forward. 🗡👍
Essayons
I'm a Marine grunt, 1962 1966. I hold high respect for both Army and Marine infantry units. Both have the same missions, Kick Ass. Semper Fi to both.
I took AIT {Advanced Infantry Training] at Ft.Ord in 1966. I consider it about the best of many courses I took in the Army. Although I became an Armor officer, in RVN I advised an exceptionally good ARVN battalion and my AIT experience served me well.
Respect from Aus mate, so much respect for urself and the organisation u served 👍
There both American, doesn't matter to me which is better as long as were kicking ass.
Both branches do their jobs very well.
Amen!
Semper FI! (Former 0311)
RLTW! (C 3/75 1997-2001; RHQ RS3 Planner2018-2019)
I encourage branch competition to keep everyone striving to be the best they can be
I was interested in armored tank division in marines but discontinued the program.
@@charlesderosas5577 have you looked into the army
Omg you guys actually made a video on the infantry!
Even though my dad was a career navy man, I chose the army and went to the 82nd Airborne Division as 11-B1p. Got to go to many great schools. As much as we roast each other's branches I will always have mad respects for my brothers in arms. Their band is undeniably the world's best.
Is going airborne worth it? Are your knees and ankles fucked up
I went to join the Marines in 1984 however,I had a GED and at the time you needed a diploma to join.i dropped out and got a GED to join not knowing I couldn't.i ended up in the army and I am glad I did!! I went to better stations I went to air assault school, airborne, combat leadership coarse (pre ranger) and ranger school.my last assignment was 7th infrantry div light at fort ORD.i know I had a much better career than I would of in the corp.i trained with many Marines at different schools and they solidified my opinion.
Me too!
I was a USAF 81152A (Law Enforcement SPC K-9)
Later became a USA 11B (INF) , 95B (MP), 91B (Medic), and finally a 91C30 (Licensed Nurse).................
I graduated a multitude of Army and Air Force schools (truly Arduous)......Especially the 64.5 week Practical nurse course.....
I a Desert storm Vet BTW................
P.S. Oh and at camp Lackland we had a marine and navy platoon next to our flight at police academy......
I was going to join the Marines but I couldn't pass the ASVAB my score was not high enough a army recruiter saw me and helped me join the army, I felt like a failure for failing the ASVAB score, but the army picked me up and I got a lot of training I worked in the motor pool and I have skills I can use to this day, I will always love the marines but I am glad it happens this way and I joined the army instead. I got to be stationed in Colorado Springs was a very fun time and besides I got to hang out with marines anyways.
Army: 2 moms
Marines: crayons.
Every other military: Laughing at US military ads.
LOL
Army boot camp so easy, Emma and her two Moms can do it.
US army ads
That Army recruiting add still makes me sick. Former Army 35-L. Joint Chiefs but hole banger Milley thought that one up. Fitting.
Nothing against the Marine Corp, but I know a lot of Jarheads that switched over to the Army for a better career, equipment and gear, more challenging schools to go to and faster promotions. Had two prior service marines in my Airborne Infantry Unit at Bragg who got out of the marines and came back into the Army and went Airborne and got stationed at Bragg. They loved being a Paratrooper and were impressed with how better funded the Army was and how much more we deployed. They both wished they had went Army all along.
I remember when a prior service Marine came into my Guard unit(hey if the state's willing to pay for 12 credits a semester, why not play Army once a month), and was talking about why he left the Corps, said his 1st Sgt was around 35ish and looked like he was in his 50's.
Marines usually join the Army because the Marines don’t think highly of people who get out and try to come back in. You usually lose rank and if you’ve been out over a year, you’d be lucky if they take you back. If a soldier left the Army for the Marines, they’d start from scratch, which is why it is rare.
Funding in the Marines isn’t as bad pre Afghanistan war and I don’t think there’s much if anything conventional Army has over Marines. Marines are using the M27 with silencers and some have opscore, which is SOF level equipment.
Deployed more for the Army than Marines, I doubt it. Marine infantry is way smaller and they have standing MEU deployments outside direct combat ones. Marines were the lead in Fallujah, Najaf, and were a large part in Ramadi.
Nothing against the Marines. Then proceeds to bash the Corps. Semper Fi pal.
@@dc76384 he didnt even bash the corps though
@@rogerthecockmachine6663 When you have to preface a statement by saying 'Nothing against the Marines, your intent is disrespect.
I’m Not a Veteran. My Only Regret i have in my Life.
Much Love and Respect to All Veterans. Thank You for my Freedom 🇺🇸
This video lost me at “army is more of an occupational force”. The army infantry assaults just as much as Marine infantry. It used to be the case that Marine infantry got more training in their pipeline but that is not the case today. The new 22 week OSUT is a huge increase in training that Army infantry gets.
I agree
So do Marines. It's both 5 months from start to finish. Marines go to more cross training into different roles and bring more firepower to the fight.
@@grunt2926 I’m not saying Army infantry is better than Marine infantry. I think it really depends on the infantryman. I’m just saying that I hate the stereotype that Army occupies and Marines assault. In the GWOT the Army and Marines worked side by side.
@@echoromeo4218 kinda true. I was in Marine infantry from 08 to 13 and now an Army reserve pog, I say marine infantry is better and honestly better compaired to Rangers do to flexibility. I really don't like comparing the two branches because they are fundamentaly different.
@@grunt2926 Marine Corps infantry compared to Rangers? I don't think they are comparable.
Good thing I finally found use for my bachelor's degree in underwater basket weaving. Thanks for the content guys.
Haha yes
Now do it without scuba. Medieval underwater basket weaving.
I was army infantry, both are great and kick ass. Go Army and go Marines. USA all the way.
Yo do you have to like parachute or anything in the infantry or is that all optional if you wanna go airborne school , air assault , etc...
Optional, depends on the unit you are with. If you are assigned to a airborne or air assault outfit they will send you to those schools to be qualified. If you are in a leg unit you can request those schools but you better be top notch to get those slots. Peace
@@williamwilson9283 so it’s like optional right , i don’t have to parachute out of a plane for infantry 😂?
@@thesimpofallstreets6232 Hell yeah it is optional, I like being on the ground myself, not to fond of jumping out out of a perfectly functioning airplane.
I served in the Army and never had any desire to be a Marine. The Army has so much more to offer
First negative comment out of all of these great comments you must of gotten turned away and sent next door to the army office at the recruiting station
I love my Marine brothers but I’m an Army vet , 13F and I enjoyed working with Marine Anglico. Much love to all Vets.
Fort Hood is probably the last Military Base anyone wants to get assigned to nowadays
That’s debatable. You ever been out to 29 palms.
Ft.Knox
@@davidmedina8774 Twenty Nine Stumps with Ninety Sixes to Tijuana when I was in 1991-1994. Not as bad as it seems.
@@davidmedina8774 Ft Iwrn?? You could have division vs division battles out there
*Fort Polk has entered the chat*
The best aspect, our enemies get to feel the wrath from both of them, love it!🇺🇸👊
Yessir Iran better chill or they will regret it😎
My father was a 'two tour' Vietnam Vet ... as a Marine!... he signed up for a third tour.... but the war at that! Point was pretty much over.... and because he was a two year college student with 4.0... grades before going to Nam. ... they pulled a 'Saving private Ryan' on him... he came back to the States.... and then went Army!!!... after graduating from the university of Nebraska!... he then became an Army Recruiter for the Army Reserves. ... for 20 plus years... E8
Hands Down, As a Marine Combat Veteran! USMC ABY! Semper Fi
I was Army Infantry. Air assult, Anti-tank, and Mech. So there's that lol
Air Assault!
Thanks for your service soldier
No one cares bro
Thats f*cking funny.....
@@eliaslevi6988 lmao awesome
11B here, 5th BN, 20th IN, 3rd SBCT, 2nd ID, OEF 2011-12, Kandahar. “To The Limit!”
I was in KAF in 2005-06
Is there a giant over there?
Yo we were on the same deployment, I was with 2nd BN 3rd IN REG.
@@smileynoshots5219 no shit!? Hell yeah bro!
@@Fatmac248 my BN HQ was there in Kandahar, the rest of the companies broke down into squads size elements and attached to SF or SEAL teams.
As a US Army Infantryman Veteran, Salute to the USMC Infantry. We are cut from the same cloth and the POGS will never understand us.
I only ever had issues with Marine POGs who would see that I was in the Army and act like they are better than me. However everytime I would spot a Marine Infantryman, we know our kind. We would simply look at each other and grin.
Seriously when I would run into Marine Pogs in Afghanistan, they really couldn't tell Or care I literally convoyed through Kandahar City to get to KAF. That i have blood stains on my Boots and haven't showered in weeks.
Hey when i was active duty i was supply I switched my mos over to 11b with the national guard . Any advice ?
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EVERY MARINE IS A RIFLEMAN FIRST
remember that
Army vet here.
I was going to join the Marines first, but I couldn't pass the final two tests at MEPS.......
1. My head wouldn't fit inside a mason jar.
2. The found out my parents weren't related until they were married.
Damn, you missed out bro... 😜
@@usmcvet0313
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Try again. They are using bigger mason jars.
@@eos6984
Lol. That’s good news but I’m too old now. The Marines wouldn’t touch me.
1st Cavalry Division here! What’s up, where my soldiers at?!
Do I gotta do army boot camp at osut to be a cav scout? Prior marine. That blows if so
@@natedog805402 Currently there is no requirement to attend Army boot camp for prior service Marines. This includes OSUT for Cav, which is an Armor MOS, technically a support MOS, not Infantry.
They fight two different missions. This is like comparing a quarterback and running back. One exists to help the other. Sometime we get away from that. But it’s true
The missions are LITERALLY the same
@@Golgi-Gyges Hmm, I dunno. Marines seem primarily more like the offensive force to advance in a war, while the Army primarily occupies the land that is captured by the Marine Corps and hunkers down, as they are better equipped and have more manpower to hold it down should the base ever be attacked in an attempt to capture it back. Marines on the other hand are meant to be mobile infantry.
@@cappuccinosnephew1382 ha ha ha!
Yes, you donno
If you haven't even been in the military, keep your ideas away.
@@cappuccinosnephew1382 and it never happens like you said. When you become a king of your own land, you can make that your military doctrine.
You are another example of believing the hype.
@@Golgi-Gyges Nah, it's the truth lmao. Marines are the most mobile infantry since it's a branch of the Navy and it's small, plus Marines get three more weeks of training than the Army cause y'all got 10 but Marines got 13. Three weeks more is a whole lot of time to learn something extra. I can already tell that you mad over me saying this one truth, and that is that the Marine Corps is the most feared and respected branch for a reason.
You boys bring a tear to my eye.
“Corpsman up” just sounds cooler.
"Two jobs in the Military. The Infantry and those who support The Infantry." Often Army and Marine Corp infantry consider themselves more kin then the other MOS's in there branch.
Best none bias Amry vs Marines video I’ve seen in a while, keep up the good work! #armystrong
Are you blind? He went more in depthly for Marines than he did Army, he briefly went over the Army for most of these categories.
That's because we don't have to learn the chain is command...3-4 is enough
Did you know that as a U.S. Marine, you can switch to the Amy without having to do with basic training / boot camp and receive an automatic rank promotion? You see there is no "debate" as to which branch is the most challenging.
@@erickelly4107 did you know as a marine infantryman with a combat action ribbon, if you switched to the army and tried to convert it to a combat infantryman badge you would not rate. It converts to a combat action badge because your level of combat if inferior to that seen by the Army. 6 month combat deployments vs 12-18 month. No comparison. See? I can use regs to support dumbass opinions too. And no, they do NOT receive any promotion. They either keep their rank or get reduced. And they may have to repeat basic training/osut depending on the job they choose and how long they’ve been out.
@@michaelmatthias9495
Yeah you are clearly DELUSIONAL.
Nobody with a functioning brain believes the Army is somehow even remotely as difficult/ challenging as the Marine Corps. Keep dreaming buddy if it helps you sleep at night…
The Army hands out awards like CANDY compared to the Marine Corps. You have to EARN the title “Marine” a Marine doesn’t have to EARN anything to join the Army but INFACT receives an automatic RANK (not some little “as was there” ribbon) promotion.
Hurts doesn’t it? Again absolutely no “debate” to by had here it’s LONG settled.
I was 11b, worked in combat with Marines. Love my Grunt Marines.
Love the new editing, whoever did it did amazing!
Literally didn't change at all, but ok. Even the background for when he does structures are the same. Same with the colors.
Just watching this hurts my back.
I did USMC , it changed my life for the better. If you are a lost young man join the USMC. You will come out a better person
I’m in a weird situation. I’m Aussie, just got married and am looking to start a life and live permanently in the US. I want to join a service, firstly to serve the country that’s taking me in, but secondly also for a brighter future for eventually my children, you think on my situation the Army is better suited or the Marines?
@@BudgetGainsByJJ I would say go Army
@@BudgetGainsByJJ I believe you have to be a U.S. citizen. So, I don't think you'll be able to until you get your citizenship. I don't know your age, but the citizenship process takes years. 25 years ago 29 y.o. was the maximum age for enlistment, but I'm told that now they let new recruits in, in their late 30's. So don't give up hope. Cross that bridge when the time comes.
@@scottfeuerhammer3595 I think a green card is acceptable in the Marines and Army, special operations/forces usually require citizenship,
@@jonhettrick7969 thanks, why Army instead of Marines though?
My pops was a 4th infantry army in Vietnam vet and had nothing but good things to say about marines he said they were the most professional and would preform under all conditions
To answer ur question I preferred the army infantry. When I signed up he asked me what I wanted to do and I said infantry if I dont get infantry I dont sign up end of discussion he said damn we don't see that very often, do u wanna jump out of airplanes too and I said fuck yes I want to jump out of airplanes! He said done take this up front and go swear in. Off to Fort Benning Georgia I went! I was 17 years old. My dad was a drill Sargent in the infantry and his last words to me was "remember son they can kill u but they can't eat u!" 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
Damn man now it's super difficult to get airborne in your contract. I wish my recruiter would have told me the same thing yours told you lmao. Thank you for your service.
@@Remington-wl7jp my recruiter didn't offer me Airborne it was the guy at meps that got it for me.
Thanks and ur welcome man it was an absolute honor to have served my country and to be able to do it in the elite unit of the 3/187 Iron Rakkasan of the 101st screaming eagles and to be a member of that brotherhood is something I'll never forget. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
@@damienreilly8061 honored to serve with the Screaming Eagles.
The myth about the marines being the first in and the army taking over needs to be put to rest. Both forces have their perspective attributes to bring to the battlefield. However, the Army has always been and will always be the main invasion force since it is the largest organization within within U.S. military, has the most man power, and the better technology and funding out of the two. The marines are an amphibious based invasion forces. Although they play a large combat role in mainland areas, they are not the primary warfighting forces for mainland combat.
You must have watched the video
There were a lot of Marines in Vietnam and Iwo Jima that might take issue with this assessment.
Hell naw marines corps make the army look like they dont even engage in gun fights
@@darkthemed7407 bruh I got pogs in the army with over 7 confirmed kills and you wanna talk about marines having more combat time?
@@brandonbp122 most medal of honor recipients goes to the United States Army most earned in 1 war was the Korean War. D day was the US Army swarming the beaches we been pushing the enemy first for a long ass time
Qualifications for infantry: Do your feet fit a pair of boots.
@fried rice
Qualifications for POGs.... do you have a vagina.
Double Layered Snow Tire Combat Soles....
It's funny when POGs think GRUNTS are low asvab achievers or just low IQ in general what sounds like you need more competence filing paper work or calling for fire? Cooking chow or understanding and implementing maneuver warfare? Driving a 7 ton or implementing raids? Passing out CIF gear or calling in a 9 line under life or death circumstances? I can go on and on, although I'll agree their are some dummies me being one at times, GRUNTS are more intelligent than what is perceived or believed. Maybe where we fall short is picking the GRUNTS in the first place.🤔 😆 Every Marine is a rifleman but not every Marine is the RIFLEMAN. #LEVELSTOTHISSHIT
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I was going to join the Marines. I got down to the last two tests at MEPS and failed them both so I couldn’t join.
1. My head wouldn’t fit Into a mason jar.
2. They found out my parents were not related until after their wedding.
@@USMC-zc5nd yeah, we used to get made fun of all the time. Even though most had some sort of college degree. And, we were qualified to do pretty much any job put before us-but no one ever came and did our job. As a grunt, I have worked in the kitchen, as an MP, a medic, an artilleryman, a truck driver-you name it, we probably did it at some point. Thats what no one else got-we need the entire army to operate and do our job. And, when you cant do yours-we step in to get it done. We dont do sick call, we dont call it a day at 1700, we have to be fully capable of doing all kinds of jobs at any moment. As you pointed out, we grunts in the Army had similar stuff: land nav, radio, medical quals (I was a combat lifesaver, which was a pre-medic medic, I guess you would call it, lol), call in 9 lines, call for fire from navy ships, planes, helicopters, arty, or mortars-sometimes from foreign countries; develop intel, gather intel, understand local cultures, and thats just some of the shit off the top of my head. Like you state, yes, there are some idiots out there-but, we had a LOT of responsibility, and, often times, all the other MOS jobs fell on our own shoulders.
Both kick ass and fight for us. Keep up the good work guys
Just saying...20 years now 11B MSG and I have never in my life been handed over a base or any of the like from a Marine unit that took it in 5 deployments. In the invasion of Afghanistan I don't remember seeing any Marines, but there were plenty of 10th MTN and 101st. They both do the exact same job the difference is not attitude, training, or funding, the only difference is size.
Yeh me either, did 9 years in the corps, never handed over a base to army... But have pushed out from their bases to our own...
Yup I was thinking the same exact thing. I hate when people who are unfamiliar on the topic say that the army infantry is just an occupational force.
In theory what he said is what's supposed to happen. In reality, I only remember it happening once in Iraq during a 24 year Marine Corps career from '87 to '12. That being said, the Army and Marine Corps both had their AO's and managed them with out the other generally speaking.
Roger, all last, AntoneATK!
Bagdad etc both used infantry and rangers and recon and each hit a side of town. Was like west/east thing to take it.
the clips of the army is my units training evaluation in hawaii. i even saw myself a couple times haha.
"Tropic Lightning" !!
As an 11A for 8 years, I’ve met many army and marine infantry officers. Bottom line: both recognize the lethality of the enlisted infantryman. On the battlefield, the foreign threat won’t be able to tell the difference between the two
THANK YOU!!!! FINALLY someone making some sense!
Once a Marine always a Marine, I respect all my brothers in arms. Semper Fi
Great video!
Although the Army is often called upon to secure an area, I have yet to hear anyone officially describe us as having "occupation" as a primary mission. Except for certain designated units (the Ranger Battalions, etc.) the Army is the "attrition" force. We are designed to do maintain the majority of combat activity in a certain Area of Operation (AO). The Marine Corps and the Ranger Regt. will sieze control of a specific point (very often a 'hard' target) and the Army will exploit that break in the enemy's line. In a perfect world the Marines or Rangers would then be withdrawn to conserve their strength for the next mission. Unfortunately, there is still a lot of resistance and envy between the 'orthodox' infantry and specialized infantry units. This usually leads to excessive casualties among specialty assault elements who in general are not equipped for protracted ground combat.
Orthodox (Army) Infantry then simply needs to "loosen up" ASAP & train & serve alongside specialized Army infantry/Airborne (paratroop) units much more often, nationwide/worldwide thus immediately & effectively reducing & eventually eliminating that gap you mention sir (very doable too) while also increase joint training with USMC Infantry & foreign Allied NATO & Non NATO Infantry forces. A Win-Win either way.....
My brother once told me that the biggest difference between Marine Infantry and Army Rangers is that the rangers are airborne (he was a marine). After watchin this video and seeing the comments, I think I understand what he meant
Rangers do more direct action now but used to have them and recon join their counterparts a lot more now.
Damn good breakdown brother 👌🏽
@@justinlacek1481 rangers are better than anything the marines have lol. Being a marine is like being regular army
Marines don’t get as many qualification schools but there are Marine specific schools that are oriented toward the leader. The quality of your unit will determine how well trained you are. I’ve seen extraordinary units and absolute shitbag units. It’s all a roll of the dice which you’ll get.
True which is more reason why the Corps must finally & immediate fix that problem if we are truly to consider ourselves as a world class super elite light infantry fighting force
psyop vs civil affairs
defense intelligence agency
field vs air defense artilleries
Just watch the separate videos for CA and psyop. They’re not really comparable since their missions have VERY little overlap.
@@ChrisJones-fm6wp 🤙 thanks for suggestion. Would units in USACAPOC or cross functional teams work more closely together?
@@ronantubridy5019 No. 1) USACAPOC is not all of the Army’s CA and PSYOP capability. It is merely the functional command that contains all the USAR CA and PSYOP units. That does not account for the active component CA brigade or PSYOP groups.
2) training requirements are different for USAR and active component CA and PSYOP Soldiers. USAR PSYOP doctrinally supports conventional forces while active component PSYOP are consider ARSOF.
3) The purpose of CA and PSYOP forces are magnitudes of difference. So, no, they don’t work as cross-functional teams.
@@ronantubridy5019 I'm not gonna say it doesn't happen. However, our sister psyop unit shared a building with us and we rarely did much with them. Sample size of one though.
i was air defense artillery before i switched to infantry...air defense is very stupif vs field artillery i would never recommend going air defense
The most important thing I learned about from being a U.S Marine is when you in the shit, the enemy doesn't care branch of service, an American US Army boy will have my back and this American US Marine will have his back, no matter our capabilities or training, we're just trying to win and survive the shit storm were in, it hurts to see my brothers in arms go out, or torn to shreds, so save the rah rah shit for when your back in the world. SEMPER FI BROTHER IN ARMS.
TELL these fool, Don!
Thank you so much, I was deciding whether to be Army or Marine infantry when I was older and go to the Military.
So will you be in the Marines or the Army?
@@meatiest1989 When you’re working with Army and Marine Corps units, you immediately notice a difference. The Army is pretty tough, but their performance can depend on the individual unit. Some are excellent, filled with hoorah and first-class warriors. A few are absolutely horrible; most are somewhere in between. In my experience, Marines are gung ho no matter what. They will all fight to the death. Every one of them just wants to get out there and kill. They are bad-ass, hard-charging mothers.
Chris Kyle, American Sniper: The Autobiography of the Most Lethal Sniper in U.S. Military History
Fun fact if you save the video and run it through logic pro with a pitch shifter you can hear their voices as there really are
I can’t imagine how much harder it was to be either of these back in Vietnam and ww2 ww1.
Oh no it was so much easier actually, if you mean requirements to qualify and join they would let you join as long as you were over 18 lmao
Even easier bro
I meant to be a soldier in those times, must of been harder.
You’re channel is addictive!!