Thanks Terry. Here in Australia I've been developing an "Andalusian" white bird, which was a cross between an Italian male and an English White. The original EW hens were smaller in size (250g) than the Italian roo (327g) but in 4 generations have got that up so the largest birds are 497g (roo) and 513g (hen).
Thank you for all the details about the breeding programs. Now I start to develop my little quail farm, I learn how to incubate quail eggs through your videos and they were very interesting. You’ve been a good instructor to since the very beginning. My name is Ernst from Haiti.
This was great, I've been looking for "quail vs chicken" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Eeyila Rudimentary Expediency - (just google it ) ? It is a great one of a kind guide for discovering how to raise healthy and fertile quail without the normal expense. Ive heard some great things about it and my partner got excellent results with it.
This is just superb, I been tryin to find out about "best quail for meat" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Eeyila Rudimentary Expediency - (should be on google have a look ) ? It is a smashing exclusive product for discovering how to raise healthy and fertile quail without the hard work. Ive heard some interesting things about it and my neighbour got great results with it.
This was great, I've been looking for "quail coop" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Eeyila Rudimentary Expediency - (should be on google have a look ) ? It is a good exclusive product for discovering how to raise healthy and fertile quail minus the hard work. Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my co-worker got excellent results with it.
Super mini-dissertation on the basics we need to look for in a quality breeding program! I'm basically wanting to raise Jumbo Browns for meat and egg production, but I must admit to really liking the 'Chocolate' quail you presented, as well as those 'comet' colored (golden) quail. I'm considering making Celadon egg layers as part of my breeding program, as some folks may well be interested in the egg coloration of the celadon lines. Pricer to invest in originally, but could be well worth the effort and cost. Thank you again for taking the time to explain the breeding program you use....it brought back the days of learning about Mendelian Genetics in college science courses. Cheers from the Oil Patch in Central WY
@@CoturnixCorner Thank you. Very interesting. Could I ask you to do a more in-depth video please? It would be great to see how you manage the pedigree, etc. You focussed on Mendelian genetics in this video but it would be nice to see you talk about heritability through other mechanisms. I've a feeling that this would make a very interesting video.
Just something I would like to add from my experience in reptile breeding (very similar to poultry in practice) is that while it's good to go off of the punnett square, life rarely works out to the percentages that the square says. Sometimes you'll hit all of your 25% chance (for better or for worse). Also, an experience from the reptile world, make sure you're getting your stock from reputable breeders and test breed your birds. I've had a number or my reptiles say what their lines were, but when tested against other Het's that should not be there, BOOM the trait showed up. That can throw a big wrench into your breeding program and basically ruin the whole project. So #1 thing, is test breed your birds against other traits that should not be in their line to make sure they're not in your line.
Thanks for the comment Dana! I too have worked with reptiles for almost 20 years and worked closely with Bill & Kathy Love in their cornsnake breeding ventures and have found out that a large percentage of reptile breeders / dealers are crooks and only out to make a buck. Not all, but a large percentage. And briefly working for Glades Herp I saw that often. I've also dealt with some really solid herpers that have what they say. I agree with your Punnett square comment, and yes it is a gamble when trying to use the square but it is a starting point for beginners new to genetics. I also agree with getting your stock from reputable breeders. I only buy hatching eggs only from three breeders and now use those lines to improve on mine. Again, thanks for the comment!
UPDATE: Since my original post, I've hatched one batch (33 hatched from 40 set) from mothers/sons and one batch (53 hatched from 60 set) from sisters/brothers. They're all still alive with no noticeable deformaties.
Never cross a son to his mother, grandmother or sisters. You can breed father to daugther but better is grandfather to granddaugther. Breeding first and second cousins is also a good option. When you start tot breed selective, start with 2 lines of breeding stock. First generations hens 1 x FG roos 2 Cross their kids back to grandpa from the paternal line. Cross this generation back to (second) cousins from the maternal line Having 4 or even more lines is even better. Select them all the same and breed between the lines. An good way to start new lines is to breed according to the double vigor factor. Search on internet, it's really worth your time. Unrelated to each other but inbred lines: AxB = hybrid 1 Hybrid 1, these hybrids have the best genetics of both parents, generation 1 often does not have any of the bad genetics of their parents, they are superior to both parent lines= vigor factor. Vigor hybrids grow faster, bigger, oriduce better and have a better feeding conversion. Hybrid 1 x Line C= Hybrid 2, double vigor factor. Double vigor is when your single vigor factor animals are crossed to a new unrelated line. The first vigor hybrids had all good genetics feim their parents remember? The double vigor hybrid has the same, best of both parents. BUT...1 of their parents already had supreme genetics due to the vigor factor, youngsters from this double vigor cross are DOUBLE blessed, they have all the good from 3 lines, they are superior to both parents including the first vigor generation, whom was already superior to the first 2 lines. All commercial livestock is bred to the double vigor principal, starting with 3 (or more, chickens are often double vigor x double vigor) different breeds of animal. For an exampel: Red Angus x black Angus= vigor cross. Vigor cross x Limousine = double vigor beef cow. Superior to all starting breeds. Better feed to meat ratio, grows faster, less health/fysical problems, more milk for calves. When we talk about animals who have multiple youngsters in 1 go, like pigs and rabbits, the double vigor females also have more youngsters and a higher milk production to feed the youngsters.
I go by week 14 with jumbos and select hens of 400-550g and males of 350-450g. I always try to breed and select slightly smaller males than the hens so they tred the hens well.
Do you have a video or information on your incubation cycle? Do you incubate weekly, biweekly, etc? New to this and trying to get my personL schedule on paper.
Thank you, very seldom do I introduce new blood to my line. I have three different bloodlines that I work with to improve on my line so I don't see the need for new blood at this time.
Have you heard about the Cairo line of quails? Hatch Poultry Farms on TH-cam was claiming they had Cairo White (across between Cairo brown and Texas A&M) quail which they said can grow up to 20 oz...
What about health problems? How do you breed the bad out? I really like the intricate process to choose good birds to breed with. Is it possible to breed quails to be broody and be good mothers?
Thanks great info, great channel. I'm learning a lot. Question, I have brown jumbo, and A&M, they're all 5 1/2 weeks old. The brown roosters are crowing as I would expect, but none of the whites. Is it possible I got all 12 hen whites from a small local backyard breeder or do the white a&M's take longer?
Thanks Terry, this morning while taking care of them I saw a white one crow. This is my first time with quail,but certainly not farm animals or other poultry. I love watching these birds, and learning. I'll probably keep quail the rest of my life now, God willing. Thanks again and God bless you.
I've got a mixed flock and I noticed that my gray colored quail are more aggressive than my brown colored quail. They are especially aggressive towards the Italian speckleds and often injure them. The hens peck at all the other birds and the roosters are overly aggressive breeders. Should I cull them from the flock or should I just keep them with other gray Birds? I hate to cull them because they're also my biggest. Does anyone know what breed these are? They look like jumbo Browns but they are a bluish silver color
If you hatch your own chicks they will be used to the commotion so I wouldn't worry too much about it. My shop gets a lot of traffic and the quail don't seem to mind. Thanks for commenting!
I have jumbo brown coturnix and just ordered a mix of coturnix with different colors to hatch. Do you have to separately breed each color? Or is it ok to keep them all in one pen together?
Hy terry I'm want to buy some firtle eggs I bought some from a farm and theyre not jumbo and not laying eggs some missing toes and so on thanks I live near lake Wales Florida
If you have multiple hens and roosters to start with you probably already have a diverse line. When you say siblings I'm assuming you only have one hen and one rooster which would mean all offspring would have the same mother and father. Otherwise, if you have multiple hens and multiple roosters your hatch would consist of multiple bloodlines. If you are concerned about in-breeding you could hatch out eggs from another source to introduce new blood and genetics.
Coturnix Corner thanks for your prompt response. My concern would be if am starting out and I get a couple dozen hatching eggs I would assume most would be from only a few parents with no way to know. Can the breeding program start with the hatched out males and females even though they may be siblings?
@@artfulcarver3578 sure. If you are concerned, contact the breeder you purchased the eggs from and see if you can get some more info on the bloodlines and his breeding program.
Watched your homemade incubator video this morning and was just wondering what kind of hatch rates you’re getting as well as if you thought having a light and fan on the top and bottom would be better for more even heating.
I get 80 - 90% hatch rates on my eggs and 60 - 70% on shipped eggs using my DIY incubator. The forced air channel on the back pretty much distributes the heat evenly. I checked the temps at the top and bottom of the incubator and had only a half to one degree difference. My Little Giant isn't that uniform, it has warm and cool spots. Thanks for the comment!
How do I find calm stock? I started 3 1/2 weeks ago with 8 chicks I found from a guy nearby if found through my state's FB group, but they seem pretty nervous, not at all calm like Terry's act.
@@CoturnixCorner most wellcome...i am from pakistan..i like your videos....have you hatched quail chicks by incubator???/. plzz share result...i am so excited to see your hatching result....Keep it up ...Goodjob
I bought some quail from the pet shop and it turned out they were inbred and the chicks never survived because they legs weren’t right but now I bought new male and the chicks are perfect
@@CoturnixCorner I could tell that you follow. The things you talk about in your selective breeding are what I have heard Zack say. I'm hopin' to order Jumbo Wilds from them soon, I love their passion for what they do. :)
@@bethannemcintyre2951 I usually won't incubate an egg under 14 grams unless it is a color that produces smaller eggs and I want to produce more chicks. But I always strive to increase the egg size of my smaller layers. If that make sense.
Cheers for this, I've been looking for "quail raising cages" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Eeyila Rudimentary Expediency - (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now ) ? It is a good one off guide for discovering how to raise healthy and fertile quail without the normal expense. Ive heard some extraordinary things about it and my buddy got cool results with it.
Thanks Terry. Here in Australia I've been developing an "Andalusian" white bird, which was a cross between an Italian male and an English White. The original EW hens were smaller in size (250g) than the Italian roo (327g) but in 4 generations have got that up so the largest birds are 497g (roo) and 513g (hen).
Sounds very interesting.
I'd be interested to see where you're at if you're still working this project John!
Thank you for all the details about the breeding programs. Now I start to develop my little quail farm, I learn how to incubate quail eggs through your videos and they were very interesting. You’ve been a good instructor to since the very beginning. My name is Ernst from Haiti.
This was great, I've been looking for "quail vs chicken" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Eeyila Rudimentary Expediency - (just google it ) ? It is a great one of a kind guide for discovering how to raise healthy and fertile quail without the normal expense. Ive heard some great things about it and my partner got excellent results with it.
This is just superb, I been tryin to find out about "best quail for meat" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you ever come across - Eeyila Rudimentary Expediency - (should be on google have a look ) ? It is a smashing exclusive product for discovering how to raise healthy and fertile quail without the hard work. Ive heard some interesting things about it and my neighbour got great results with it.
How is your quail doing, Ernst?
You are a true source of valuble information on these quail. Easy to understand and rite to the point. Thanks for your channel.
Thank you, I'm glad you are enjoying the channel.
Thank you for the information, I am starting a breeding program for my coturnix quail and needed more ideas.
You're welcome. Good luck with your breeding program!
This was great, I've been looking for "quail coop" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Have you heard people talk about - Eeyila Rudimentary Expediency - (should be on google have a look ) ? It is a good exclusive product for discovering how to raise healthy and fertile quail minus the hard work. Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my co-worker got excellent results with it.
I have watched a few of your videos you have always been brief which is excellent. Keep them like that and precise
Thank you!
Can you do a video on blood line and how to keep records of them?
Thanks Terry Ive already started some of your recommendations with my quail. Appreciate it!
Thank you
Super mini-dissertation on the basics we need to look for in a quality breeding program!
I'm basically wanting to raise Jumbo Browns for meat and egg production, but I must admit to really liking the 'Chocolate' quail you presented, as well as those 'comet' colored (golden) quail.
I'm considering making Celadon egg layers as part of my breeding program, as some folks may well be interested in the egg coloration of the celadon lines. Pricer to invest in originally, but could be well worth the effort and cost.
Thank you again for taking the time to explain the breeding program you use....it brought back the days of learning about Mendelian Genetics in college science courses.
Cheers from the Oil Patch in Central WY
Thank you! I try to keep things as simple as possible.
@@CoturnixCorner Thank you. Very interesting.
Could I ask you to do a more in-depth video please?
It would be great to see how you manage the pedigree, etc. You focussed on Mendelian genetics in this video but it would be nice to see you talk about heritability through other mechanisms. I've a feeling that this would make a very interesting video.
Just something I would like to add from my experience in reptile breeding (very similar to poultry in practice) is that while it's good to go off of the punnett square, life rarely works out to the percentages that the square says. Sometimes you'll hit all of your 25% chance (for better or for worse). Also, an experience from the reptile world, make sure you're getting your stock from reputable breeders and test breed your birds. I've had a number or my reptiles say what their lines were, but when tested against other Het's that should not be there, BOOM the trait showed up. That can throw a big wrench into your breeding program and basically ruin the whole project. So #1 thing, is test breed your birds against other traits that should not be in their line to make sure they're not in your line.
Thanks for the comment Dana! I too have worked with reptiles for almost 20 years and worked closely with Bill & Kathy Love in their cornsnake breeding ventures and have found out that a large percentage of reptile breeders / dealers are crooks and only out to make a buck. Not all, but a large percentage. And briefly working for Glades Herp I saw that often. I've also dealt with some really solid herpers that have what they say. I agree with your Punnett square comment, and yes it is a gamble when trying to use the square but it is a starting point for beginners new to genetics. I also agree with getting your stock from reputable breeders. I only buy hatching eggs only from three breeders and now use those lines to improve on mine. Again, thanks for the comment!
Terry, any issues you could discuss regarding inbreeding? Sons breeding with mothers, brothers breeding with sisters? Thank you!
Probably the usual ones like deformity and high death rates
UPDATE: Since my original post, I've hatched one batch (33 hatched from 40 set) from mothers/sons and one batch (53 hatched from 60 set) from sisters/brothers. They're all still alive with no noticeable deformaties.
@@thatbubbleguy from what I understand they're good for like 15 generations before they start having problems
Birds can go awhile with the gene pool I would just bring in some new blood when you can to keep from getting completely inbred
Never cross a son to his mother, grandmother or sisters.
You can breed father to daugther but better is grandfather to granddaugther.
Breeding first and second cousins is also a good option.
When you start tot breed selective, start with 2 lines of breeding stock.
First generations hens 1 x FG roos 2
Cross their kids back to grandpa from the paternal line.
Cross this generation back to (second) cousins from the maternal line
Having 4 or even more lines is even better. Select them all the same and breed between the lines.
An good way to start new lines is to breed according to the double vigor factor. Search on internet, it's really worth your time.
Unrelated to each other but inbred lines:
AxB = hybrid 1
Hybrid 1, these hybrids have the best genetics of both parents, generation 1 often does not have any of the bad genetics of their parents, they are superior to both parent lines= vigor factor.
Vigor hybrids grow faster, bigger, oriduce better and have a better feeding conversion.
Hybrid 1 x Line C=
Hybrid 2, double vigor factor.
Double vigor is when your single vigor factor animals are crossed to a new unrelated line.
The first vigor hybrids had all good genetics feim their parents remember?
The double vigor hybrid has the same, best of both parents. BUT...1 of their parents already had supreme genetics due to the vigor factor, youngsters from this double vigor cross are DOUBLE blessed, they have all the good from 3 lines, they are superior to both parents including the first vigor generation, whom was already superior to the first 2 lines.
All commercial livestock is bred to the double vigor principal, starting with 3 (or more, chickens are often double vigor x double vigor) different breeds of animal.
For an exampel:
Red Angus x black Angus= vigor cross.
Vigor cross x Limousine = double vigor beef cow. Superior to all starting breeds.
Better feed to meat ratio, grows faster, less health/fysical problems, more milk for calves.
When we talk about animals who have multiple youngsters in 1 go, like pigs and rabbits, the double vigor females also have more youngsters and a higher milk production to feed the youngsters.
Another great video, thank you for passing your info along!!! It really helps us novice quail lovers!
Thank you!
I go by week 14 with jumbos and select hens of 400-550g and males of 350-450g. I always try to breed and select slightly smaller males than the hens so they tred the hens well.
Great stuff man!
Thank you!
Thanks Terry. Can you please talk about the light program. And talk about the
Benefits or efect of the "red colour " light
Now, 2 years later, can you update us? Have your criteria shifted and how much size did your flock gain on average over the 2 years? Thanks
Actually, I was thinking about doing an update video just because so many of my methods and criteria have changed. Thanks for asking!
Very good video. I am trying to learn more about quail.
Which birds would i need to breed to get pharaoh? I got one before but i had male tibetan, 2 females amber autumn & tuxedo
If I may inquire..when a rooster mates with a hen...how long is she viable with fertile eggs..???..vs...just laying an egg..
1 question, what to add to food ,thats cheap to meat them up ,for more weight??? Thankyou love
Great video, really enjoyed this one. What are those beautiful golden birds you showed??
Do you have a video or information on your incubation cycle? Do you incubate weekly, biweekly, etc? New to this and trying to get my personL schedule on paper.
Thanks for your videos! very helpful!
Is there a book on quail color genetics? I would love to find one.
Good useful info Terry many thanks. How often do you buy in new Blood
thanks in advance
Thank you, very seldom do I introduce new blood to my line. I have three different bloodlines that I work with to improve on my line so I don't see the need for new blood at this time.
@@CoturnixCorner Many thanks Terry I suppose that the more of your own birds you have the less you need to buy in
all the best keep well
Have you heard about the Cairo line of quails? Hatch Poultry Farms on TH-cam was claiming they had Cairo White (across between Cairo brown and Texas A&M) quail which they said can grow up to 20 oz...
Don't know anything about it, sorry
Watching from India sir 😊
Terry nice information videos I'm trying to buy some jumbo eggs do you have some? Thankyou
What about health problems? How do you breed the bad out? I really like the intricate process to choose good birds to breed with. Is it possible to breed quails to be broody and be good mothers?
Thanks great info, great channel. I'm learning a lot. Question, I have brown jumbo, and A&M, they're all 5 1/2 weeks old. The brown roosters are crowing as I would expect, but none of the whites. Is it possible I got all 12 hen whites from a small local backyard breeder or do the white a&M's take longer?
Possible, but I would give me a little more time. They should be crowing by 8 - 10 weeks.
Thanks Terry, this morning while taking care of them I saw a white one crow. This is my first time with quail,but certainly not farm animals or other poultry. I love watching these birds, and learning. I'll probably keep quail the rest of my life now, God willing. Thanks again and God bless you.
@@sandyriver1043 Thank you!
Good content! Any good Quail Breeding literature you could recommend?
I've got a mixed flock and I noticed that my gray colored quail are more aggressive than my brown colored quail. They are especially aggressive towards the Italian speckleds and often injure them. The hens peck at all the other birds and the roosters are overly aggressive breeders. Should I cull them from the flock or should I just keep them with other gray Birds? I hate to cull them because they're also my biggest. Does anyone know what breed these are? They look like jumbo Browns but they are a bluish silver color
Sound like they are pretty, if assholish! What did you ever do about their meanness factor?
So they don't reach full maturity at 10 weeks old? That is my understanding from other youtubers (10 weeks for jumbo, and 8 weeks for standard)
I am thinking about getting quail as pets but I have little kids and my house is kind of noisy would my quail get spooked and acidity get hurt?
If you hatch your own chicks they will be used to the commotion so I wouldn't worry too much about it. My shop gets a lot of traffic and the quail don't seem to mind. Thanks for commenting!
Coturnix Corner thAnks that helps
I have jumbo brown coturnix and just ordered a mix of coturnix with different colors to hatch. Do you have to separately breed each color? Or is it ok to keep them all in one pen together?
Hy terry I'm want to buy some firtle eggs I bought some from a farm and theyre not jumbo and not laying eggs some missing toes and so on thanks I live near lake Wales Florida
Sir what is the net size to make the cage
Hi Terry, you didn’t mention anything about in-breeding. When starting your breeding program can you breed siblings if that’s all you have?
If you have multiple hens and roosters to start with you probably already have a diverse line. When you say siblings I'm assuming you only have one hen and one rooster which would mean all offspring would have the same mother and father. Otherwise, if you have multiple hens and multiple roosters your hatch would consist of multiple bloodlines. If you are concerned about in-breeding you could hatch out eggs from another source to introduce new blood and genetics.
Coturnix Corner thanks for your prompt response. My concern would be if am starting out and I get a couple dozen hatching eggs I would assume most would be from only a few parents with no way to know. Can the breeding program start with the hatched out males and females even though they may be siblings?
@@artfulcarver3578 sure. If you are concerned, contact the breeder you purchased the eggs from and see if you can get some more info on the bloodlines and his breeding program.
Terry, I may be able to help with the website issues
Terry, do u sell eggs for hatching?
Can you make a new video tour please
What do you use to keep the lineage, I am going to work on lineage also.
TERRY MY BIRDS ARE NOT NEAR AS TAME AS YOUR BIRDS HOW DO YOU TAME THEM DOWN
I work out in the quail room several hours a day so I guess they are kind of used to seeing me.
Watched your homemade incubator video this morning and was just wondering what kind of hatch rates you’re getting as well as if you thought having a light and fan on the top and bottom would be better for more even heating.
I get 80 - 90% hatch rates on my eggs and 60 - 70% on shipped eggs using my DIY incubator. The forced air channel on the back pretty much distributes the heat evenly. I checked the temps at the top and bottom of the incubator and had only a half to one degree difference. My Little Giant isn't that uniform, it has warm and cool spots. Thanks for the comment!
At what age do you start breeding your quail? How long do you keep them as breeders?
Usually around 8 - 10 weeks they will start breeding and laying fertile eggs. I retire my roosters at 6 months and my hens at 1 year. Hope this helps.
WERE YOU LOCATED
Was that gas at 2:12 😂
Do you band your birds to keep track of the genetic lines? Or are you just changing roosters one at a time?
I do. I use the small 4" colored zip ties to differentiate different blood lines and males.
How do I find calm stock? I started 3 1/2 weeks ago with 8 chicks I found from a guy nearby if found through my state's FB group, but they seem pretty nervous, not at all calm like Terry's act.
I don't do anything special other than being in the quail room, I guess they get used to me :)
very nice informative video
Thank you! I'm glad you like it.
@@CoturnixCorner most wellcome...i am from pakistan..i like your videos....have you hatched quail chicks by incubator???/. plzz share result...i am so excited to see your hatching result....Keep it up ...Goodjob
@@muhammada723 Yes, I use a homebuilt incubator and get between 80 - 90% hatch rates from my eggs.
@@CoturnixCorner wawao.......you should be make a video and upload on youtube...
How can I see if Male and female.... thank you
Thanks sir very informative video shout out sir
how much the price of 1 kg quail eggs.I am indonesia 🙏
Hi. I'm intrested in purchasing some quails locally. I'm in the ft Myers area
hope you can see this ,.. im in so california wolud like to get some hatching eggs from you if you ship down here thanks ...
Sir I m from india. Want to import jumbo quail hatching eggs to india can you help me out.
Nice ❤️
Please make vedio on Breeding program with more details.
# I am in India.
Hey me too
I bought some quail from the pet shop and it turned out they were inbred and the chicks never survived because they legs weren’t right but now I bought new male and the chicks are perfect
Dear how can i get this birds or eggs in pakistan 🇵🇰?
Nice
Do you happen to follow Myshire Farm on TH-cam?
Actually yes I do. Zack and myself are teaming up and collaborating on some video ideas. Coming soon!
@@CoturnixCorner I could tell that you follow. The things you talk about in your selective breeding are what I have heard Zack say. I'm hopin' to order Jumbo Wilds from them soon, I love their passion for what they do. :)
Do you weigh your eggs in your breeding program?
Yes I do. I select eggs that weigh between 14 - 16 grams, occasionally 18. Good question, thanks!
Coturnix Corner so, if it’s less you don’t hatch them out?
@@bethannemcintyre2951 I usually won't incubate an egg under 14 grams unless it is a color that produces smaller eggs and I want to produce more chicks. But I always strive to increase the egg size of my smaller layers. If that make sense.
Hi dear from India, need vaccination for breeding quails..thank you
I want to ask, what causes quail to die every day in a cage, and what is the solution?
good luck
Thank you in advance
It could be anything, I would need a lot more information to answer your question.
Please don't refer to any of your birds as "colored birds."
It's "birds of color." Big difference.
Keep up the good work 👍.
Cheers for this, I've been looking for "quail raising cages" for a while now, and I think this has helped. Ever heard of - Eeyila Rudimentary Expediency - (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now ) ? It is a good one off guide for discovering how to raise healthy and fertile quail without the normal expense. Ive heard some extraordinary things about it and my buddy got cool results with it.
I am the 16,666th viewer.
Second one lol
First!
congrats!