PLEASE READ: Some things before you jump in. 1. Nonia Biznaz found the channel who made the video I talked about in the beginning. The channel name is S3thReviewsMedia and sadly I was right, the video was taken down. EDIT: Video was found but a new and improved version was released go watch it: th-cam.com/video/B8dP1zI4re4/w-d-xo.html Thank you so much for everyone who looked for the channel and thank you S3thReviewsMedia for making such a god tier video. 2. If you took a shot every time I mispronounced Kaworu’s name you’d be dead within 10 minutes. 3. I realized I goofed in the very beginning of the video in the background footage but I realized that while the video was rendering and I’m not about to spend 8 hours rendering it again to fix a minor funny background error 4. In regards the sequel theory, every single major Evangelion wiki/fan site states they're different continuities and that the Rebuilds are meta sequels. Kaworu looping/being the same one in every continuity is something that's debated about so I'll give you that. But I'm going to trust the dudes at Evageeks and such as they're beyond obsessed with this franchise (not saying that in an insulting way, not even remotely, mad respect). The only way I'm gonna be convinced it's true is if Anno or some other director/writer on those films flat out confirms the theory in an interview or something. Regardless this isn't stopping you from having your headcannons or own theories. 5. I explained very nicely why I don't really talk about the rebuilds in the video and have said in the beginning and ending of the video that your opinions on the films are valid, just as mine are. I make content on things I like or find interesting. I don't like the Rebuilds or find them very interesting (outside of their godly OSTs). I've had several comments already act like I've personally attacked people because of my choice not to include them in the video. I'm sorry if I offended you or anything. I just wanted to talk about Evangelion stuff I found interesting, weird or cool. If you want an iceberg that contains a ton of stuff from the Rebuilds there was a three part iceberg series done by the youtuber Magneno CG. They were taken down quite recently cus of copyright but he's said he's making another one. So if you're interested in that, go check out his channel. th-cam.com/users/justindude888
the theory about EoE being a hateful response to fans was always funny to me, like anno wen't "I hate all my fans so i'll make a movie all of them will love "
The theory is on point, considering it doesnt anwser any of the questions, tortures and kills most of the characters, gets even more phychological than the last two episodes, and the ending Is just...depressing. Edit: also, after some time, fans started to like the ending of the series more than the movie, it tells basically the same story, but without telling you to go fvck yourself.
@@Jose-se9pu A bad ending for the characters isn't the same thing as a bad ending for the viewer. Eva fans should be very ok with a depressing psychological ending because that's already a main drive for the show and EoE pretty much confirmed that. If anythign i could see them getting mad over an ending that doesn't go there. I saw people warming up to the original ending over time too but that's easier to do when you have a big flashy ending to choose as well. Saying the fans, as in all of them like the original ending more than EoE now doesn't seem true at all, even people liking it usually still love EoE, it still evry high regarded everywhere. Not to mention the ending isn't even that bad of an outcome, basically a more positive version of the devilman ending. We see everyone die but after that they are given a free choice of being reborn as a human or entering the Fanta hivemind basically, it's left open but it might as well have turned out that most characters got reborn
@@Jose-se9pu Bruh, EoE fundamentally blows original ending out of the water for basic reason, it's an actual freaking ending to story. And theory is plain and simply a farce. Series became enormous success and there was financial reason to properly finish it this time.
@@ReichLife You're so real for that. Anyone who thinks Anno made EoE the way it is because he "hates otakus" are so fucking goofy, considering what he worked on before Eva.
Fun fact about one hour photo, the Eva toy that the kid was holding was actually owned by Robin Williams. He was a pretty big Eva fan and brought some of his toys to the filming.
do you have any source for that, because i've heard that was just a rumor and he had no idea what the toy was. if he was a fan, you'd think he'd know how to pronounce the name, instead of "evan-jelly-in"
Counter argument to the "They banged in EP 15 theory" Remember that the Asuka that we see in 99% of the show isn´t the real Asuka, just a mask to hide her feelings. Asuka wanted to grow up and become a woman, her version to do it was doing it with someone, either Kaji or Shinji, but none of them where useful to complete "that task" for her. Kaji started dating Misato again, so accepting defeat wanted she kissed with Shinji expecting for things to escalate, but Shinji didn´t do it. That´s why Asuka started becoming more angrier, her mask is falling, and that mask is everything for her. Sex to complete someone is aMisato thing, not Asuka´s
You know, I just finished the show recently and the thing that hurts almost as bad as actually watching it is the fact that it's so old that few people still talk about. The golden age is over and there's little new content on it and it's hard to find people to discuss and analyze it with. With that in mind, I am very happy I came across this video. This was great, cheers!
In my college group chat there are a bunch of us who love Evangelion, and the cinema showings for 1.0+3.0 near me seem to be packed. That said, Eva is still in the weird purgatory between mainstream and niche.
It’s definitely popular. I mean the fact that you could technically live off Eva mercy and Eva mercy only (assuming every campaign is still going on) should tell you a lot
Rei's soul can't be in Unit-00. The book that was sold in theaters for End of Evangelion, better known as The Red Cross book, explicitly states that all three Rei share the same soul and that when she dies her soul moves into a new clone. It's why she remembers each of her past lives and why her personality changes between lives.
It's portions of her soul. Portions are lost with each death. One portion, the part that hates gendo is stuck inside 00, the part that loved/looked up to gendo was in rei2, rei3 was free of both. For some reason every single one has a love for shinji. Makes no sense but that's anime for you
@@nana-cq9mnLike the previous commenter said, Rei is a Yui clone, but not only that, Shinji is Gendo's son, and looks very much like him. Rei only takes an interest in Shinji after he rescues her from her plug. This mirrors how Gendo did the same thing in an earlier episode. Shinji demonstrates the same care to Rei as his father does, therefore Rei has a good reason to believe Shinji deserves her affection
it wasnt her whole soul it was a piece of it. when rei tries to reactivate with her eva in episode 5 it freaks out because it’s Rei I realizing she’s somewhere new and weird. Unit 00 even goes to attack ritsuko who is the mom of rei I killer.
About the albino thing, I think it comes from the (false) stereotype that albinos have pink/red eyes. Truth be told most albinos (including myself) have brown eyes and if you see pink or red eyes you are actually seeing the blood vessels in the back of their eyes because their irises are clear. You are spot on about the poor eyesight thing though.
There are multiple types of albinism that can happen in the animal kingdom (including humans), the pink eyes (blood vessels) are like those stereotypical lab rats or rabbits.
23:15 For those curious, the probable origin for Rando Christian Imagery Random In Mech Anime is originally from Ultraman. Creator's wife was a born-again and lot of themes *deliberately* leaked into that work. Turned out to be one of those iconic series that got copiied and eventually the meanings in the copy got kinda lost in translation.
It's not even all random. Lilith, Adam, Tree of Life, Doors of Guff. These are all religious themes that drive the entire narrative of the plot. If you remove all the religious stuff on the grounds that it was just thrown in as an afterthought then the show literally falls apart because outside of Shinji's personal growth it's the basis of the entire narrative.
Sorta. A lot of this stuff is incredibly intuitive. So even if it was done for aesthetic purposes, what FELT RIGHT is actually predictable. And it's that feeling which transcends cultures and peoples. The further you delve into the Enlightenment, which affected all cultures by now, the more parallels you find between Christian themes and human psychology. Basically, Christianity being so old and so close to science (in study), its natural evolution began to produce re-world relationships presented as Christian metaphors/individuals. The symbology itself is so old it goes past the Egyptians and the Masons, like the cross. In reality, crosses for crucifixion are actually a T shape. But it evolved into the '+' shaped cross due to the psychological meaning of '+' which exists in all cultures: stability, bridging, strength, etc. Of course, a '+' is just a simplified version of a man standing with his arms out and his feet together, the 'T' pose as it's affectionately called. The meme, 'T' pose to assert dominance, is actually ancient. Halo's are the rising sun, crowning an individual with golden light. Trinities are the simplest stable relationship (rock, paper, scissors). All this is what people are referencing when they talk about sacred geometry, though it gets a bad rep from eccentrics who take it too far. So even if people use the imagery because it 'looks cool' or whatever, the fact it looks cool is precisely because the meaning it has transcends culture.
@@zmmar007It seems random to a Christian. Lilith would be more likely to create angels, and Adam the humans. Adam means "soil" and humans is derived from the Latin "humus" as in "dirt". From a language and Christian theology perspective, it doesn't make sense.
In an anime so riddled with various kinds of daddy issues and parent abandonment, its an interesting choice that Misato adopts a penguin- an animal known for the males taking an active role in egg-sitting and child rearing.
01:04:16 I always thought it was Misato who shot Kaji because he gets happy and says "I was waiting for you" before he gets shot, but it makes more sense that Seela killed him
The final 2 Eva episodes are genuinely the best episodes in any show in general, the writing is all over the place but it never feels out of place it feels realistic one time you think about yourself the next about the people you know what if all were different what if you were different or never existed it is just pure greatness in my opinion and truely shows how long writers freedom can take someone
Imo I think the last two episodes ere pretty bad he was low on budget and I think he felt rushed to make a good ending. However End Of Evangelion is the best movie/show not only ending but just in general
@@Big_show_guy it sucks so much and takes away from the positive ending. It was made so butthurt fans with no artistic comprehension would shut up lol. The original ending is just perfect
@@langustajableczna I disagree Anno at the time of making the show was depressed I don’t think he wanted to have a ending of how he truly felt so he made something that was more uplifting. The problem with that was he built Shinji around himself and he tried to make shinji something he wasn’t. People complained and said it was bad and sent him death threats and that almost drove him to suicided. Than he got fed up and made end of Eva and didn’t hold back and poured his soul into it. I just think it is such a better ending since it isn’t fake Anno is deep in depression that he can’t get out of and he puts shinji in that same state which really hits hard since life isn’t always a good ending. But even still at the end shinji still has a chance to be a better person and get over his depression we just don’t know if he will and neither does anno know if he will get over his own. I could go on for hours why I love End of Evangelion (mainly Auskas storyline in it). I understand why someone enjoys the other endings better but for me personally this was my favorite by far
@@langustajableczna one last thing I just think it makes shinji a much more relatable character since like I said before it isn’t fake it actually feels like a real person I could relate to. I am perfectly happy person currently but at the time I watched it I really felt lonely and the show + movie really helped me
The real best girl is Maya. Not because of any waifu debate but because she's one of the only few actually good people in this show that deserved better
@@quincy2376 @vocalprocrastinating9904 yo the pitch black shadows are here and spreading pitch black shadow propaganda (you both have pitch black pfps)
It’s been one year since I watched this video. This one of my favorite iceberg videos on TH-cam ngl it’s so in depth and I remember other Eva icebergs being pretty lackluster. This is a comfort video for me 4:14am August 15 24 Thursdays
I feel like my favorite resolution to the eva series, is the manga based on the series. Yea it’s different, even some characters show sides of themselves not really seen in the show. But the way it handles EOE and it’s end makes it feel like a finale. Rather than something cyclical like other things would have you believe. Plus I like the somewhat more positive tone.
Man i wish we had even more details about Evangelion 2 ( the game). It has some interesting scenarios such as the 18th one where it's unironically even more depressing than NGE or EoE. By the way you did an astonishing job by explaining the myths of these franchise!
You forgot a very interesting thing as well In some airings of Evangelion from 2003 in Argentina, a dubbed opening of Cruel Angel’s Thesis was used in Spanish. Nobody knows if the opening was archived, and no snippets or even images exist of this version online, which makes it hard to know if the dub even used a dubbed intro. While there is a Spanish opening that could be from a dub, it’s not confirmed to be the lost Spanish intro, and may be a cover. This version can be heard on TH-cam.
The live action Eva movies were going to be directed by Steven Spielberg, I'm pretty sure that's common knowledge. He actually talked about it in more than one interview... The concept art also has stamps from Studio WETA attached, who have a pretty crazy portfolio of things they worked on. Assuming we would have gotten that combination of assets, there's a chance this could have been a massive hit. I still find it unlikely and personally I'm not a fan of live action anime adaptation regardless, I think once something got a video adaptation of some sort, that should be it.
Given how bad live action adaptations of anime were given such a bad red at the time, I doubt that the movie would've flown over with audiences and critics
I freaking love the eva series, The moment I finished the OG series I immediately Searched all the religious reference and stuff, but the one that surprised me the most was the adam and lilith reference, didn't know adam had a first wife LMAO
@@Hoheinohonryo Oh I see, I totally agree he didn't really had a first wife or somethin in the show, manga etc. Just something that suprised me in adam's story in the bible.
seeing that you have two Fate characters listed as favorite characters, I think it would be interesting seeing some sort of Fate Iceberg. There's really not any iceberg I could find online about the Fate franchise as a whole really. I think it would be neat to see one.
Nice video! When I lived in Japan I was always amazed by the quantity of Eva derivative material around. Good thing the Eva store was so effin' expensive or I'd have bought waaaay too much merch... Also, maybe you should have added that this "classified info" from Evangelion 2 is like, the biggest eva infodump ever, answering some very central questions like "What are the freakin' angels?" (well, if it can be considered canon of course...)
I do remember hearing about the N64 Neon Genesis game from the UK's 64 Magazine. It was only briefly mentioned and only released in Japan, I originally thought it was going to have a western release but after 2001 I had to consider the fact that if it weren't for Nintendo Region Locking their console, there was no way I was ever going to play that game.
Great video! I saw your comment on my post, and I am the guy who made the hour and a half Angel's Ranked video. The video wasn't taken down because I used clips from the show; It was taken down because I had an amv intro that violated Khara's policy (as I learned first-hand). Lilin or humanity was ranked at #1 and Iruel was ranked at #2. My video also only included the 3rd and 7th angel from the rebuild movies. I was planning on remaking it later down the line, but I've had a lot of people come to me asking about it, so I'll make it right after I release the current video that I'm working on. This time I'm thinking about including the rebuild versions of Ramiel, Zeruel, and Sahaquiel. Very flattering to hear everyone talk about how good it was.
@@palerider9952 Don't worry brother. The script is 50 pages, the statistic cards have already been made, and the script is about to be finalized. Recording should start soon.
"what some people don't know is that the dead sea scrolls are actually real!" Do people really not know? That's like not knowing that the pyramids or Stonehenge are real.
I'm so goddamn happy there is someone else that watched that Eva angel ranking! I was so confused when I didn't find it, thank god it actually exists. I sadly don't have it archived either
After watching over 2 hours of you talking about Evangelion the only thing I am going to comment on is the fact that the outro has the best memes i've seen in a while. Great Video btw.
This will be the 5th time I have watched this video. It has completely revitalized my love for Eva and the franchise as a whole. Thank you for this great video
Anyone else remember that big Eva-R fanfic? They always claimed to have some kind of seal of approval from the creator or the studio. Bunch of soundtrack and animation and stuff got made for it too. I kept thinking it was going to pop up, it felt like a big deal way back when. Its so strange looking at all this 'stuff'. My big Evangelion phase was at a time when you just didn't get these kind of things in the UK. The only way to even watch it was to catch it at the right time on the equivalent of cable. My Dad video taped it for me not knowing what it was... I think I still have those VHS tapes.
man I remember stumbling on that in what, 1999? 2000? At that time, I had no concept of what a fanfiction was, so I spent some time thinking it was actually official stuff (I also remember actually spending hours of my very time-limited 56k-modem internet to download the 3d animations...)
When I was watching Devilman Crybaby I noticed the massive similarity to Evangelion with the red sea and the bleak ending,I should have guessed the franchise inspired Evangelion if a remastered story is so similar to another media
I would love to see Evangelion go the direction of stuff like Digimon, Gundam power rangers etc with its own timeline lore etc takes on Evangelion as a concept
15:10 But... Lillith's soul IS Rei's soul! It was transfered, first from Lillith to Rei, then to each iteration of Rei, while her soulless spare bodies are used for the dummy plug system. Obviously if unit 0 indeed has Rei 1's soul it had been fragmented too, as Asuka's mom's soul was, and then the question could be what part of the soul was extracted (as it's theorized that unit 02's soul was the fragment of Kyoko's soul that loved Asuka), or even wether if that's a thing at all and soul fragmentation works more like blood or spinal fluid donation
Correction on the Super Robot Wars part. 30 is not the 30th main line series game, it's called 30 because it's released on the 30th anniversary of the series. Also fun fact: Anno being a MASSIVE mecha fan and a fan of the SRW series actually contributed to the some parts of Super Robot Wars F, where Eva debuted in the series, with artworks and also ideas involving how the story of Evangelion can play out in the game, one of them being that Bright Noa from the original Gundam anime should slap the bitch out of Shinji. And he liked the depiction of Eva in these games so much that in the Rebuild films he actually reused some of the ideas presented in namely the 3rd Super Robot Wars Alpha game. Ok another fun fact. In the series there's a surprisingly consistency involving the Eva series and the Getter Robo series in almost all continuities. That being the Getter Rays can ignore the AT Fields generated by Angels and Evas. The reason varies between game to game but this fact paired up with the Getter Robots generally being very high damage dealing units makes them the perfect Angel/Eva busting characters.
Finally got around to watching this (to the end lol) after binge-watching the entire "cinematic" series (anime + rebuilds). This was the first video I watched from your channel and you've certainly earned my sub. Even though I did watch the Crunchyroll vid analyzing the "timeline" and multiverse, it was even more fascinating seeing you uncover even more things that particular video missed. I always knew how influential and groundbreaking Evangelion was but seeing how far the roots spread out in the industries of Japan/US over decades was quite something. Playing a broken record but I don't particularly like the rebuilds either due to their meandering aspects and disappointing creative changes, however, I still respect the production that went into it all around (killer soundtrack btw). Some takeaway for me is even though the premise and moral of the show's message are much simpler, it's still amazing diving into the rabbit hole and exploring creative liberty. Also, I agree with ANIMA deserving an anime adaptation as it's one of the most interesting renditions of the EVA "story" to date (Also EVA retake). Anything else (cough 3.0+1.11) is stagnant and another usage of the cash cow. Fantastic vid overall, it's been a while since I've been this encapsulated. P.S. Favorite character(s) are Asuka and Ritsuko
Appreciate the support king. The soundtracks to the Rebuilds and the animation are amazing. Just wish I liked the creative decisions. I get why people like them, they’re just not for me
loved this! THANK YOU for taking the time to research and put this whole video together. entertaining, informative, and was able to get to the end without being bored! id love to see a deep dive video about lore, theories, culture… etc of the original series if you haven’t made one yet!
I really like this Iceberg as it didn’t just talk about general information, but also really obscure media as well I didn’t even know about. I’m a HUGE Evangelion fan and a lot of this stuff has been a blast from the past, so this one has been a lot of fun to watch. Also Rei my beloved really needs to have her own proper Game where she doesn’t hook up with her Kinda-Sorta-Son and doesn’t get groomed. My proper Rei Raising Project game would be a Shoujo-esque Reverse Harem game where you try to hook up Rei with a bunch of dudes around her age and go on silly little adventures with her. I think that would be neat.
Recently finished watching the original show. Learned a lot from this video and will definitely check out the ANIMA since that sounds like it goes raw as hell!
YO YO YO LISTEN TO FLY ME TO THE MOON!! the original ending track for the series. theres 26 versions cus it changes every episode (even rei's japanese voice actor sings the ending a couple of times.)
I do think there's a bit of merit to EoE at least being a implicit response to the fan base at the time. The scene that appears directly following the third impact I feel is the most obv with it pointing towards escapism by fans.
i think that's more so relevant to general Otaku culture in Anno's view. iirc one of the many, many reasons at this point, that anno made the show was because the anime industry was gearing more towards "kawaii" culture and he wanted to make something that went against that. the..."goo" scene being a manifestation of Otaku's being drawn in by illusions of pretty women works pretty well. also regardless, i never thought of the scene like that. that's really interesting tbh
I watched ALL of the video, even the last few minutes. I love your videos. And Rei might be my favorite character, partly for how memeable she is, especially the Rei plush.
32:02 The concept of 'Barons of Hell' arises from medieval and early modern Christian demonology, wherein it is assumed (in line with the notion of the great chain of being) that the various archdemons of Hell have titles in line with the feudal system (Barons, Dukes, Lords, Princes, Knights, Presidents, etc.).
1:29:06 I love the idea of a body horror Evangelion. I think that it could fit really well with the whole vibe of the show in general. Too bad it got cancelled.
If Neon Genesis was inspired by Everything that came before it from The Bible to Ultraman. I can then say that Neon Genesis was also inspired by Super Mario Bros, the part where Shinji ate a Super Mushroom so he could grow big into his Eva Unit 01 form.
10:09 I better see "References in Steven Universe" down the line 15:29 Wish granted? 26:29 I think it's pretty good, shakes up the formula and solidifies character development that sets up Matarael's episode amazingly
Neon Genesis Evangelion nearly drove me to suicide. Seeing Shinji suffering is like seeing myself suffer, because at one point in time I was almost exactly like him, especially back in 10th grade when I was bullied to the brink of suicide. I simply cannot tolerate watching Eva. I felt forced to relive my trauma upon viewing it. I’m deathly afraid of it. Twice I had a nightmare where I saw myself as Shinji choking Asuka and starting the Third Impact. I’ve been struggling with this newfound depression ever since. I was obsessed with the series for over a year to try and outwit the isolation of the Coronavirus pandemic. It only increased the burden, and kept the memory of my friend’s recent suicide alive. Watching the End of Evangelion was like peering into a broken mirror, and I was viewing the hell I would’ve put myself through had things turned out differently, had I decided to give up. Sometimes I hate myself because I fail to appreciate what so many have claimed to idolize, and I beat myself further for failing to worship what they call praiseworthy, I forced myself to watch a show that reminded me of nothing but pain just so I wouldn’t be alone anymore, I was willing to sacrifice my individuality for some company amidst the isolation of the pandemic. I sought emotional refuge in the Evangelion fandom on social media, hoping they’d understand me and provide me with answers that would grant me peace of mind. Instead, they downplayed my trauma, going so far as to spread a rumor of my past to shame me of my mental illness, spiraling me deeper into depression, which I’ve been struggling with for over a year now. I just want Shinji to be happy, so this past self of mine can be laid to rest once more. I’m afraid to decouple myself from him after losing my friend to suicide, which Eva made me feel responsible for, especially when I saw Shinji kill Kaworu, of which I fail to understand how anyone can call it praiseworthy. Until then, I feel nothing else matters. There’s a reason why I keep coming back to Evangelion; something that reminds me of nothing but pain. I want to prove to myself I’m not crazy for feeling this way, that Evangelion really did force me to relive my trauma, that my depression is not just a figment of my imagination or another anime plot point. I want to feel that my fear and resentment towards Eva is justified. But the fact I’m the only one I know in existence who’s been traumatized by an anime makes me feel like I really am crazy. But finally, with 3.0+1.0 released, I can rest easy knowing that Shinji has finally reached the light at the end of the tunnel. Evangelion is finished, and I want it to remain that way. But if things hadn’t turned out that way, I wouldn’t be here today.
You're not crazy for thinking an anime traumatized you. It's an insanely dark and disturbing anime with so many heavy topics there really should be a warning before watching it. I havent watched any of the movies but in my opinion the whole show is just a commentary and existential deep dive into the human consciousness. I think everyone is supposed to relate to shinji too, in some ways or others. Battling depression is so tough but I promise that you got this. You can do it man and just keep doing things that make you happy :)
Extremely respectable favourites right there. Can't speak for everyone there, but the anime are certified classics and the selection of protagonists is great, they all have their own upsides to distinguish from each other
Theres a cracked out asian dude crunchyroll hired to do the entire lore/history of all of evangellion anime, games, mangas, and commercials. Its pretty good and pretty damn wild
Yo it’s crazy u made this video when I literally finished this anime a month ago! I’m very excited for this iceberg since the ones on TH-cam are kinda of disappointing.
1:04:16 okay, I just watched this scene back and, in my opinion at least, it js HEAVILY implied that it’s Misato that killed Kaji. Who else would he be happy to see the way he’s shown? Scene hard cuts to Misato’s room where she’s sitting with head in hands as sirens blare? I get that Anno said it wasn’t her, but it feels heavily implied by the shots.
Misado also mentioned in the show I believe it was episode 3 or 4 that she got pen pen from her last job. She also mentioned that he was called a hot springs penguin and that these days they are very rare but they used to be all around. Wonder what that means
22:16 wasn't expecting a mention of bo3 or the fact it has mechs ever in an evangelion video, crazy. Also yes it is a mecha, the first image you showed is a mech in zombies, and you can fight a mech in the campaign as a boss in one of the later levels
I'm kinda late to the party here, but I felt inclined to comment! For starters, awesome video! I really like how thorough you were. I recently just got back into Evangelion after kinda forgetting it's existence for awhile and I remembered why it's actually my favorite anime ever--also I love Iceberg videos because I'm a sucker for these sorts of fun facts/deep trivia. On the topic of the Rebuilds; I know some people have been crass in the comments about your opinion, personally I do like them but I understand why not everyone would, so to each their own at the end of the day. What I do disagree with is the disregard when it comes to the "Time Loop"/Sequel Theory. Obviously no grudge of course, at the end of the day Evangelion has that element of self-interpretation, but to me the Sequel Theory is pretty likely. The final Rebuild movie goes out of it's way to connect itself to the original, such as Kaworu's seemingly existing familiarity with Shinji throughout all the films before even meeting him to Shinji even saying "I've been here before" in the final film when talking to Kaworu again towards the end. I don't think it's fair to say "The evidence for the theory has been debunked" when there's a decent chunk of evidence that wasn't even brought up here (Not a fault of you to be fair, this is a 2 hour long video covering many topics and you can only spend so much time on one before needing to move forward.) The other point I would mention is that the final Rebuild film does literally showcase footage from the original anime when Shinji is talking to Rei towards the end of the film as well; there's more to say on the matter but I don't even think I'm the best person to explain every aspect, and this has already ran pretty long already. Still, awesome video!
In preparation for the iceberg, I had to go back and rewatch the original series and The End of Evangelion. I wish I could go back in time so I can see what it was like to experience the most serial science fiction anime ever.
You mentioned that evangelion angel power scaling video in the beginning that went missing, while I unfortunately don't have an archive and can't seem to find it in any capacity for what it's worth I can give you the name of the channel that uploaded the video, S3thReviewsMedia, he unfortunately took the video down but of the few videos on his channel his oldest one shows a brief clip of the video in question which I'm pretty positive is the one you're looking for. He recently posted a long-form video about 2 weeks ago so it's clear he's still active and you might have some luck reaching out to him about the video and if he still has it in any capacity available!
Can attest The Re-Take doujin series is one of the best Evangelion fan materials in existence, and YES, that includes the doujin scenes which further work to improve upon the development of the characters in the story.
@@Pigpen_YT Lmao fair. I'll say this though, the only organ in my body that got lubed from reading this was my tear glands. Such a beautiful story, man.
1:12:12 i think its worth noting that ano didnt just get frustrated at asuka's va, he made shinji's va straddle her and choke her like shinji does to asuka. asuka's va said she never wanted to voice asuka again but apparently changed her mind after befriending her english va
I was just rewatching this and will probably rewatch the Fate one as well. I really enjoy just how much Eva media there is to talk about, and I may get into some, other than just the normal series. Also wanted to say that I enjoy the content, and I hope this and Fate aren't the only weeb icebergs you make.
I am watching this and even though I finished the original Neon Genesis Evangelion, I am learning stuff that happened in the show that was apparently common knowledge, I feel so stupid right now
i'm so invested and obsessed with eva that I actually finished watching this video. I'm ngl it's one of my favorite, if not my favorite animes and I only watched it last week.
On my first watch through I genuinely just assumed it was Misato who shot Kaji. It just seemed like the most obvious conclusion to me given the prior scene
PLEASE READ: Some things before you jump in.
1. Nonia Biznaz found the channel who made the video I talked about in the beginning. The channel name is S3thReviewsMedia and sadly I was right, the video was taken down. EDIT: Video was found but a new and improved version was released go watch it: th-cam.com/video/B8dP1zI4re4/w-d-xo.html Thank you so much for everyone who looked for the channel and thank you S3thReviewsMedia for making such a god tier video.
2. If you took a shot every time I mispronounced Kaworu’s name you’d be dead within 10 minutes.
3. I realized I goofed in the very beginning of the video in the background footage but I realized that while the video was rendering and I’m not about to spend 8 hours rendering it again to fix a minor funny background error
4. In regards the sequel theory, every single major Evangelion wiki/fan site states they're different continuities and that the Rebuilds are meta sequels. Kaworu looping/being the same one in every continuity is something that's debated about so I'll give you that. But I'm going to trust the dudes at Evageeks and such as they're beyond obsessed with this franchise (not saying that in an insulting way, not even remotely, mad respect). The only way I'm gonna be convinced it's true is if Anno or some other director/writer on those films flat out confirms the theory in an interview or something. Regardless this isn't stopping you from having your headcannons or own theories.
5. I explained very nicely why I don't really talk about the rebuilds in the video and have said in the beginning and ending of the video that your opinions on the films are valid, just as mine are. I make content on things I like or find interesting. I don't like the Rebuilds or find them very interesting (outside of their godly OSTs). I've had several comments already act like I've personally attacked people because of my choice not to include them in the video. I'm sorry if I offended you or anything. I just wanted to talk about Evangelion stuff I found interesting, weird or cool. If you want an iceberg that contains a ton of stuff from the Rebuilds there was a three part iceberg series done by the youtuber Magneno CG. They were taken down quite recently cus of copyright but he's said he's making another one. So if you're interested in that, go check out his channel. th-cam.com/users/justindude888
don't worry it's barely noticeable
I dont think its just kaworu's name you mispronounced
You couldn't even do enough research to figure out how to say Seele right 🙄
@@oscob3259 if you understand what I'm trying to say then ultimately it doesn't matter how I pronounced something.
@@Pigpen_YT oh I understand completely. It just makes you look incredibly ignorant
I USED TO LIVE IN JAPAN AND NOBODY BELIEVED THAT I RODE DOWN THE REI SLIDE! NOBODY BELIEVED IT WAS REAL
i must know more
We must know more
Our people need to know more
THE REI SLIDE IS REAL!!!
Its in Shiodome, Tokyo
It may not be there anymore who knows
the theory about EoE being a hateful response to fans was always funny to me, like anno wen't "I hate all my fans so i'll make a movie all of them will love "
The theory is on point, considering it doesnt anwser any of the questions, tortures and kills most of the characters, gets even more phychological than the last two episodes, and the ending Is just...depressing.
Edit: also, after some time, fans started to like the ending of the series more than the movie, it tells basically the same story, but without telling you to go fvck yourself.
@@Jose-se9pu A bad ending for the characters isn't the same thing as a bad ending for the viewer. Eva fans should be very ok with a depressing psychological ending because that's already a main drive for the show and EoE pretty much confirmed that. If anythign i could see them getting mad over an ending that doesn't go there.
I saw people warming up to the original ending over time too but that's easier to do when you have a big flashy ending to choose as well.
Saying the fans, as in all of them like the original ending more than EoE now doesn't seem true at all, even people liking it usually still love EoE, it still evry high regarded everywhere.
Not to mention the ending isn't even that bad of an outcome, basically a more positive version of the devilman ending. We see everyone die but after that they are given a free choice of being reborn as a human or entering the Fanta hivemind basically, it's left open but it might as well have turned out that most characters got reborn
@@Jose-se9pu Bruh, EoE fundamentally blows original ending out of the water for basic reason, it's an actual freaking ending to story. And theory is plain and simply a farce. Series became enormous success and there was financial reason to properly finish it this time.
@@ReichLife You're so real for that. Anyone who thinks Anno made EoE the way it is because he "hates otakus" are so fucking goofy, considering what he worked on before Eva.
He probably saw that the fans saw the ending and found it lacking so he was like: “bitch wanna real ending? Well then here you go!”
The reason some people think misato shot kaji is because his death scene is right after the scene of misato being given her gun back
I shot him
@@Pigpen_YT 😰
@@Pigpen_YT holly moley 💯
Oh God, that'd suck. It'd confuse the hell out of me, especially considering her reaction when she hears his message.
i also thought misato shot kaji at first. imo, i think it would’ve been way sadder
About the "Best Girl" debate, let me add that 99% of people are objectively wrong and the only correct answer is Ramiel
Ramiel my beloved
aaaaaaaaaa
Ramiel solos every other waifu in eva or in anime in general
@@honeyohhoney8485 pen pen
YES
After watching the entire video I am left wondering why no one has written a story about Pen Pen becoming an Eva pilot and saving the world.
That can change
Pen² was just a bonus Angel that didn't want to reach Adam so just chilled
@@JohnnyTromboner
Pen
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@@JohnnyTrombonerpenpen is an angel!?
@@Erwin_Von_Heidenheim It's an anguru!
Fun fact about one hour photo, the Eva toy that the kid was holding was actually owned by Robin Williams. He was a pretty big Eva fan and brought some of his toys to the filming.
th-cam.com/users/shorts-0mBLO3rCTE?feature=share
Maybe he wanted to see if anyone would correct him on set?
do you have any source for that, because i've heard that was just a rumor and he had no idea what the toy was. if he was a fan, you'd think he'd know how to pronounce the name, instead of "evan-jelly-in"
@@cornboi3227 I was mistaken. Williams was a fan of Evangelion, but the director picked figure at random to use for the movie.
@@cornboi3227 cringe
Counter argument to the "They banged in EP 15 theory"
Remember that the Asuka that we see in 99% of the show isn´t the real Asuka, just a mask to hide her feelings. Asuka wanted to grow up and become a woman, her version to do it was doing it with someone, either Kaji or Shinji, but none of them where useful to complete "that task" for her. Kaji started dating Misato again, so accepting defeat wanted she kissed with Shinji expecting for things to escalate, but Shinji didn´t do it.
That´s why Asuka started becoming more angrier, her mask is falling, and that mask is everything for her. Sex to complete someone is aMisato thing, not Asuka´s
You know, I just finished the show recently and the thing that hurts almost as bad as actually watching it is the fact that it's so old that few people still talk about. The golden age is over and there's little new content on it and it's hard to find people to discuss and analyze it with.
With that in mind, I am very happy I came across this video. This was great, cheers!
In my college group chat there are a bunch of us who love Evangelion, and the cinema showings for 1.0+3.0 near me seem to be packed. That said, Eva is still in the weird purgatory between mainstream and niche.
Are you under a rock? There's still a ton of people talking about it
@@The_KingDoge depends on what you mean by “a ton of people”. It’s not exactly mainstream, though many people have seen it before.
@@Aplesedjr a ton of people in the anime community
It’s definitely popular. I mean the fact that you could technically live off Eva mercy and Eva mercy only (assuming every campaign is still going on) should tell you a lot
Rei's soul can't be in Unit-00. The book that was sold in theaters for End of Evangelion, better known as The Red Cross book, explicitly states that all three Rei share the same soul and that when she dies her soul moves into a new clone. It's why she remembers each of her past lives and why her personality changes between lives.
ty!! such good info
It's portions of her soul. Portions are lost with each death. One portion, the part that hates gendo is stuck inside 00, the part that loved/looked up to gendo was in rei2, rei3 was free of both. For some reason every single one has a love for shinji. Makes no sense but that's anime for you
@@nana-cq9mni mean its understandable that the sould loves denji since she was first formed in his mom's DNA
@@nana-cq9mnLike the previous commenter said, Rei is a Yui clone, but not only that, Shinji is Gendo's son, and looks very much like him. Rei only takes an interest in Shinji after he rescues her from her plug. This mirrors how Gendo did the same thing in an earlier episode. Shinji demonstrates the same care to Rei as his father does, therefore Rei has a good reason to believe Shinji deserves her affection
it wasnt her whole soul it was a piece of it. when rei tries to reactivate with her eva in episode 5 it freaks out because it’s Rei I realizing she’s somewhere new and weird. Unit 00 even goes to attack ritsuko who is the mom of rei I killer.
The Rei sisters: I sleep
The Racisters: real shit
When he said "The Rei" sisters, I heard "The Racisters" Caught me off balance bruh ☠️
About the albino thing, I think it comes from the (false) stereotype that albinos have pink/red eyes. Truth be told most albinos (including myself) have brown eyes and if you see pink or red eyes you are actually seeing the blood vessels in the back of their eyes because their irises are clear. You are spot on about the poor eyesight thing though.
It was mentioned by the creator that they made Rei have red eyes and blue hair so it would be the opposite of Asuka, who has blue eyes and red hair.
There are multiple types of albinism that can happen in the animal kingdom (including humans), the pink eyes (blood vessels) are like those stereotypical lab rats or rabbits.
Neat. Didn’t know irises could even be clear. Thanks random albino guy/gal 👍🏻
@@cwc5085 But Asuka doesn't have red hair.
I went to school with a guy named Brody who was albino, he had blue eyes like a husky it was wild looking
Not a bad iceberg! As a self proclaimed EVA scholar (Meaning I have no life) this was really in depth.
Hey, it’s you! I love your vids!
*(Meaning I have no life) then you should get one as the show tells you too
After the second impact there are ironically very few, if any icebergs in the actual world of Evangelion
23:15 For those curious, the probable origin for Rando Christian Imagery Random In Mech Anime is originally from Ultraman. Creator's wife was a born-again and lot of themes *deliberately* leaked into that work. Turned out to be one of those iconic series that got copiied and eventually the meanings in the copy got kinda lost in translation.
yeah showa ultraman and kamen rider loved their random crucification scenes
Eiji Tsuburaya was a Christian independent from his wife, he actually casted Miko in Godzilla 1954, who received an award from Pope John Paul II
It's not even all random. Lilith, Adam, Tree of Life, Doors of Guff. These are all religious themes that drive the entire narrative of the plot. If you remove all the religious stuff on the grounds that it was just thrown in as an afterthought then the show literally falls apart because outside of Shinji's personal growth it's the basis of the entire narrative.
Sorta. A lot of this stuff is incredibly intuitive. So even if it was done for aesthetic purposes, what FELT RIGHT is actually predictable. And it's that feeling which transcends cultures and peoples.
The further you delve into the Enlightenment, which affected all cultures by now, the more parallels you find between Christian themes and human psychology. Basically, Christianity being so old and so close to science (in study), its natural evolution began to produce re-world relationships presented as Christian metaphors/individuals.
The symbology itself is so old it goes past the Egyptians and the Masons, like the cross. In reality, crosses for crucifixion are actually a T shape. But it evolved into the '+' shaped cross due to the psychological meaning of '+' which exists in all cultures: stability, bridging, strength, etc. Of course, a '+' is just a simplified version of a man standing with his arms out and his feet together, the 'T' pose as it's affectionately called.
The meme, 'T' pose to assert dominance, is actually ancient.
Halo's are the rising sun, crowning an individual with golden light. Trinities are the simplest stable relationship (rock, paper, scissors). All this is what people are referencing when they talk about sacred geometry, though it gets a bad rep from eccentrics who take it too far.
So even if people use the imagery because it 'looks cool' or whatever, the fact it looks cool is precisely because the meaning it has transcends culture.
@@zmmar007It seems random to a Christian. Lilith would be more likely to create angels, and Adam the humans. Adam means "soil" and humans is derived from the Latin "humus" as in "dirt". From a language and Christian theology perspective, it doesn't make sense.
27:00 I think it's meant as a "bait" thing, so people would be exited to see Toji in action before he even becomes a pilot...
ooooohh good point. I never thought of it like that
I personally kinda fell for it too
i always thought of it as displaying all the pilots that were featured
In an anime so riddled with various kinds of daddy issues and parent abandonment, its an interesting choice that Misato adopts a penguin- an animal known for the males taking an active role in egg-sitting and child rearing.
I know right? Idk why it wasn’t a mantis smh…
Kaworu mentions that he and Reí are the same or similar. I’m pretty sure Kaworu has Adam’s soul while Reí has Lilith’s soul.
Rei is literally Lilith and Kaw is literally Adam, yes.
01:04:16 I always thought it was Misato who shot Kaji because he gets happy and says "I was waiting for you" before he gets shot, but it makes more sense that Seela killed him
Same
The final 2 Eva episodes are genuinely the best episodes in any show in general, the writing is all over the place but it never feels out of place it feels realistic one time you think about yourself the next about the people you know what if all were different what if you were different or never existed it is just pure greatness in my opinion and truely shows how long writers freedom can take someone
Elaborate please
Imo I think the last two episodes ere pretty bad he was low on budget and I think he felt rushed to make a good ending. However End Of Evangelion is the best movie/show not only ending but just in general
@@Big_show_guy it sucks so much and takes away from the positive ending. It was made so butthurt fans with no artistic comprehension would shut up lol. The original ending is just perfect
@@langustajableczna I disagree Anno at the time of making the show was depressed I don’t think he wanted to have a ending of how he truly felt so he made something that was more uplifting. The problem with that was he built Shinji around himself and he tried to make shinji something he wasn’t. People complained and said it was bad and sent him death threats and that almost drove him to suicided. Than he got fed up and made end of Eva and didn’t hold back and poured his soul into it. I just think it is such a better ending since it isn’t fake Anno is deep in depression that he can’t get out of and he puts shinji in that same state which really hits hard since life isn’t always a good ending. But even still at the end shinji still has a chance to be a better person and get over his depression we just don’t know if he will and neither does anno know if he will get over his own. I could go on for hours why I love End of Evangelion (mainly Auskas storyline in it). I understand why someone enjoys the other endings better but for me personally this was my favorite by far
@@langustajableczna one last thing I just think it makes shinji a much more relatable character since like I said before it isn’t fake it actually feels like a real person I could relate to. I am perfectly happy person currently but at the time I watched it I really felt lonely and the show + movie really helped me
NO WAY!!! Pigpen shocks _everyone_ by posting the most comprehensive, in depth Evangelion iceberg (2hr long) after just a month since the last upload!
Literally the GOAT how does he do it
@@kmsproductions9572 goated Michael Jackson pfp
@@_mango_ thank you yo yours is fire too
@@kmsproductions9572 thanks! I drew it
@@_mango_ now, that's cool
My favorite character is Misato. She's a well written strong female character, with real world strong female character flaws.
Shes a pedophile
My favourite character is also misato cause she’s hot
I agree with you
Both, both are correct
She also has strong female assets
The real best girl is Maya.
Not because of any waifu debate but because she's one of the only few actually good people in this show that deserved better
Especially in the first movie
At least she's of age.
@@Johnspartan296 thank god someone pointed this shit out
Facts!!!
@@PERSACC1 Yeah. This whole "best girl" stuff is cringe, especially when a lot of the characters are underage.
This will be my last iceberg video before my second year of college starts tomorrow.
Thanks for the upload
have fun
@@Pigpen_YT thank you
I actually thought the pitch black shadows in episode 16 was intended and looked pretty cool
Same
@@quincy2376 @vocalprocrastinating9904 yo the pitch black shadows are here and spreading pitch black shadow propaganda (you both have pitch black pfps)
@@The_Local_Goose you have learned too much.
@@WrathMiltenanother one, lol something's going on here
It’s been one year since I watched this video. This one of my favorite iceberg videos on TH-cam ngl it’s so in depth and I remember other Eva icebergs being pretty lackluster. This is a comfort video for me
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I feel like my favorite resolution to the eva series, is the manga based on the series. Yea it’s different, even some characters show sides of themselves not really seen in the show. But the way it handles EOE and it’s end makes it feel like a finale. Rather than something cyclical like other things would have you believe. Plus I like the somewhat more positive tone.
I agree, and the fourth Rebuild movie took some elements from it.
Man i wish we had even more details about Evangelion 2 ( the game). It has some interesting scenarios such as the 18th one where it's unironically even more depressing than NGE or EoE.
By the way you did an astonishing job by explaining the myths of these franchise!
You forgot a very interesting thing as well
In some airings of Evangelion from 2003 in Argentina, a dubbed opening of Cruel Angel’s Thesis was used in Spanish. Nobody knows if the opening was archived, and no snippets or even images exist of this version online, which makes it hard to know if the dub even used a dubbed intro.
While there is a Spanish opening that could be from a dub, it’s not confirmed to be the lost Spanish intro, and may be a cover. This version can be heard on TH-cam.
I REFUSE TO BELIEVE PEOPLE DIDNT KNOW THAT THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS EXIST IRL
There’s a dude in the comment section who claims they’re all forgeries and fakes
@@Pigpen_YT Really? How can they be so ignorant? 🙄
I died of laughter at 20:55 when he swapped Misato with the angle
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Ayy! Nice to see you covering one of my favourite sci fi anime, always up for some obscure Evangelion trivia
Eva iceberg, awesome!
Can't wait to watch it
Your iceberg videos are nothing but quality every single time, even the short ones
The live action Eva movies were going to be directed by Steven Spielberg, I'm pretty sure that's common knowledge. He actually talked about it in more than one interview... The concept art also has stamps from Studio WETA attached, who have a pretty crazy portfolio of things they worked on. Assuming we would have gotten that combination of assets, there's a chance this could have been a massive hit. I still find it unlikely and personally I'm not a fan of live action anime adaptation regardless, I think once something got a video adaptation of some sort, that should be it.
Given how bad live action adaptations of anime were given such a bad red at the time, I doubt that the movie would've flown over with audiences and critics
I freaking love the eva series, The moment I finished the OG series I immediately Searched all the religious reference and stuff, but the one that surprised me the most was the adam and lilith reference, didn't know adam had a first wife LMAO
He didn't. Well, depends on what ya wanna believe.
He didn't it's a conspiracy theory
Well I'm not actually reffering to the video, What I meant is the religious reference in the show that I looked up after I finished it.
@@bloodtransfusion9318 ok but he didn't it's a myth it wasn't part of the original story
@@Hoheinohonryo Oh I see, I totally agree he didn't really had a first wife or somethin in the show, manga etc. Just something that suprised me in adam's story in the bible.
seeing that you have two Fate characters listed as favorite characters, I think it would be interesting seeing some sort of Fate Iceberg. There's really not any iceberg I could find online about the Fate franchise as a whole really. I think it would be neat to see one.
I'm subbing just in case the Fate iceberg happens lol
Nice video! When I lived in Japan I was always amazed by the quantity of Eva derivative material around. Good thing the Eva store was so effin' expensive or I'd have bought waaaay too much merch...
Also, maybe you should have added that this "classified info" from Evangelion 2 is like, the biggest eva infodump ever, answering some very central questions like "What are the freakin' angels?" (well, if it can be considered canon of course...)
I do remember hearing about the N64 Neon Genesis game from the UK's 64 Magazine.
It was only briefly mentioned and only released in Japan, I originally thought it was going to have a western release but after 2001 I had to consider the fact that if it weren't for Nintendo Region Locking their console, there was no way I was ever going to play that game.
well!! there are actually roms of the evangalion game online
Great video! I saw your comment on my post, and I am the guy who made the hour and a half Angel's Ranked video. The video wasn't taken down because I used clips from the show; It was taken down because I had an amv intro that violated Khara's policy (as I learned first-hand). Lilin or humanity was ranked at #1 and Iruel was ranked at #2. My video also only included the 3rd and 7th angel from the rebuild movies. I was planning on remaking it later down the line, but I've had a lot of people come to me asking about it, so I'll make it right after I release the current video that I'm working on. This time I'm thinking about including the rebuild versions of Ramiel, Zeruel, and Sahaquiel. Very flattering to hear everyone talk about how good it was.
Can't wait to see what your current project is, as well as the rerelease of the Angel Ranking; I was hooked on your channel ever since that video
@@palerider9952 Don't worry brother. The script is 50 pages, the statistic cards have already been made, and the script is about to be finalized. Recording should start soon.
"what some people don't know is that the dead sea scrolls are actually real!"
Do people really not know? That's like not knowing that the pyramids or Stonehenge are real.
you'd be surprised
As a person who studies history extensively and knows some of the most obscure shit,i had no idea they were real
@@mirthless5603 What's some of the most obscure shit?
@@mirthless5603 please give an example of what you consider obscure
im not religious, i didnt know that they were real.
I'm so goddamn happy there is someone else that watched that Eva angel ranking! I was so confused when I didn't find it, thank god it actually exists. I sadly don't have it archived either
After watching over 2 hours of you talking about Evangelion the only thing I am going to comment on is the fact that the outro has the best memes i've seen in a while.
Great Video btw.
This will be the 5th time I have watched this video. It has completely revitalized my love for Eva and the franchise as a whole. Thank you for this great video
Anyone else remember that big Eva-R fanfic? They always claimed to have some kind of seal of approval from the creator or the studio. Bunch of soundtrack and animation and stuff got made for it too. I kept thinking it was going to pop up, it felt like a big deal way back when.
Its so strange looking at all this 'stuff'. My big Evangelion phase was at a time when you just didn't get these kind of things in the UK. The only way to even watch it was to catch it at the right time on the equivalent of cable. My Dad video taped it for me not knowing what it was... I think I still have those VHS tapes.
I actually had Eva-R mentioned briefly in my notes for this video but somehow I overlooked it. 100% should've been in this video
man I remember stumbling on that in what, 1999? 2000? At that time, I had no concept of what a fanfiction was, so I spent some time thinking it was actually official stuff (I also remember actually spending hours of my very time-limited 56k-modem internet to download the 3d animations...)
@@Pigpen_YT i need a video on it now
When I was watching Devilman Crybaby I noticed the massive similarity to Evangelion with the red sea and the bleak ending,I should have guessed the franchise inspired Evangelion if a remastered story is so similar to another media
I would love to see Evangelion go the direction of stuff like Digimon, Gundam power rangers etc with its own timeline lore etc takes on Evangelion as a concept
15:10 But... Lillith's soul IS Rei's soul! It was transfered, first from Lillith to Rei, then to each iteration of Rei, while her soulless spare bodies are used for the dummy plug system. Obviously if unit 0 indeed has Rei 1's soul it had been fragmented too, as Asuka's mom's soul was, and then the question could be what part of the soul was extracted (as it's theorized that unit 02's soul was the fragment of Kyoko's soul that loved Asuka), or even wether if that's a thing at all and soul fragmentation works more like blood or spinal fluid donation
I have a theory it was a Akagi's mother's soul.
Correction on the Super Robot Wars part.
30 is not the 30th main line series game, it's called 30 because it's released on the 30th anniversary of the series.
Also fun fact: Anno being a MASSIVE mecha fan and a fan of the SRW series actually contributed to the some parts of Super Robot Wars F, where Eva debuted in the series, with artworks and also ideas involving how the story of Evangelion can play out in the game, one of them being that Bright Noa from the original Gundam anime should slap the bitch out of Shinji. And he liked the depiction of Eva in these games so much that in the Rebuild films he actually reused some of the ideas presented in namely the 3rd Super Robot Wars Alpha game.
Ok another fun fact. In the series there's a surprisingly consistency involving the Eva series and the Getter Robo series in almost all continuities. That being the Getter Rays can ignore the AT Fields generated by Angels and Evas. The reason varies between game to game but this fact paired up with the Getter Robots generally being very high damage dealing units makes them the perfect Angel/Eva busting characters.
Finally got around to watching this (to the end lol) after binge-watching the entire "cinematic" series (anime + rebuilds).
This was the first video I watched from your channel and you've certainly earned my sub.
Even though I did watch the Crunchyroll vid analyzing the "timeline" and multiverse, it was even more fascinating seeing you uncover even more things that particular video missed. I always knew how influential and groundbreaking Evangelion was but seeing how far the roots spread out in the industries of Japan/US over decades was quite something. Playing a broken record but I don't particularly like the rebuilds either due to their meandering aspects and disappointing creative changes, however, I still respect the production that went into it all around (killer soundtrack btw). Some takeaway for me is even though the premise and moral of the show's message are much simpler, it's still amazing diving into the rabbit hole and exploring creative liberty. Also, I agree with ANIMA deserving an anime adaptation as it's one of the most interesting renditions of the EVA "story" to date (Also EVA retake). Anything else (cough 3.0+1.11) is stagnant and another usage of the cash cow. Fantastic vid overall, it's been a while since I've been this encapsulated.
P.S. Favorite character(s) are Asuka and Ritsuko
Appreciate the support king. The soundtracks to the Rebuilds and the animation are amazing. Just wish I liked the creative decisions. I get why people like them, they’re just not for me
loved this! THANK YOU for taking the time to research and put this whole video together. entertaining, informative, and was able to get to the end without being bored! id love to see a deep dive video about lore, theories, culture… etc of the original series if you haven’t made one yet!
You know shit is wild when the last two episodes are tier 1
I really like this Iceberg as it didn’t just talk about general information, but also really obscure media as well I didn’t even know about. I’m a HUGE Evangelion fan and a lot of this stuff has been a blast from the past, so this one has been a lot of fun to watch. Also Rei my beloved really needs to have her own proper Game where she doesn’t hook up with her Kinda-Sorta-Son and doesn’t get groomed. My proper Rei Raising Project game would be a Shoujo-esque Reverse Harem game where you try to hook up Rei with a bunch of dudes around her age and go on silly little adventures with her. I think that would be neat.
I always come back and watch this every couple of months this is a wonderful video
Now i have a cursed knowledge of the existence of Rei and Shinji grooming games thanks to this vid holy sh*t
Recently finished watching the original show. Learned a lot from this video and will definitely check out the ANIMA since that sounds like it goes raw as hell!
YO YO YO LISTEN TO FLY ME TO THE MOON!! the original ending track for the series. theres 26 versions cus it changes every episode (even rei's japanese voice actor sings the ending a couple of times.)
Me to it sounds really interesting!
I do think there's a bit of merit to EoE at least being a implicit response to the fan base at the time. The scene that appears directly following the third impact I feel is the most obv with it pointing towards escapism by fans.
Anno was depressed and freaking suicidal when he made that movie, and it shows.
i think that's more so relevant to general Otaku culture in Anno's view. iirc one of the many, many reasons at this point, that anno made the show was because the anime industry was gearing more towards "kawaii" culture and he wanted to make something that went against that. the..."goo" scene being a manifestation of Otaku's being drawn in by illusions of pretty women works pretty well. also regardless, i never thought of the scene like that. that's really interesting tbh
I watched ALL of the video, even the last few minutes. I love your videos. And Rei might be my favorite character, partly for how memeable she is, especially the Rei plush.
Fantastic video bro
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Also, FANTASTIC video!
32:02 The concept of 'Barons of Hell' arises from medieval and early modern Christian demonology, wherein it is assumed (in line with the notion of the great chain of being) that the various archdemons of Hell have titles in line with the feudal system (Barons, Dukes, Lords, Princes, Knights, Presidents, etc.).
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I love the idea of a body horror Evangelion. I think that it could fit really well with the whole vibe of the show in general. Too bad it got cancelled.
If Neon Genesis was inspired by Everything that came before it from The Bible to Ultraman.
I can then say that Neon Genesis was also inspired by Super Mario Bros, the part where Shinji ate a Super Mushroom so he could grow big into his Eva Unit 01 form.
10:09 I better see "References in Steven Universe" down the line
15:29 Wish granted?
26:29 I think it's pretty good, shakes up the formula and solidifies character development that sets up Matarael's episode amazingly
Neon Genesis Evangelion nearly drove me to suicide.
Seeing Shinji suffering is like seeing myself suffer, because at one point in time I was almost exactly like him, especially back in 10th grade when I was bullied to the brink of suicide. I simply cannot tolerate watching Eva. I felt forced to relive my trauma upon viewing it. I’m deathly afraid of it. Twice I had a nightmare where I saw myself as Shinji choking Asuka and starting the Third Impact. I’ve been struggling with this newfound depression ever since.
I was obsessed with the series for over a year to try and outwit the isolation of the Coronavirus pandemic. It only increased the burden, and kept the memory of my friend’s recent suicide alive.
Watching the End of Evangelion was like peering into a broken mirror, and I was viewing the hell I would’ve put myself through had things turned out differently, had I decided to give up.
Sometimes I hate myself because I fail to appreciate what so many have claimed to idolize, and I beat myself further for failing to worship what they call praiseworthy, I forced myself to watch a show that reminded me of nothing but pain just so I wouldn’t be alone anymore, I was willing to sacrifice my individuality for some company amidst the isolation of the pandemic.
I sought emotional refuge in the Evangelion fandom on social media, hoping they’d understand me and provide me with answers that would grant me peace of mind. Instead, they downplayed my trauma, going so far as to spread a rumor of my past to shame me of my mental illness, spiraling me deeper into depression, which I’ve been struggling with for over a year now.
I just want Shinji to be happy, so this past self of mine can be laid to rest once more. I’m afraid to decouple myself from him after losing my friend to suicide, which Eva made me feel responsible for, especially when I saw Shinji kill Kaworu, of which I fail to understand how anyone can call it praiseworthy. Until then, I feel nothing else matters.
There’s a reason why I keep coming back to Evangelion; something that reminds me of nothing but pain.
I want to prove to myself I’m not crazy for feeling this way, that Evangelion really did force me to relive my trauma, that my depression is not just a figment of my imagination or another anime plot point. I want to feel that my fear and resentment towards Eva is justified.
But the fact I’m the only one I know in existence who’s been traumatized by an anime makes me feel like I really am crazy.
But finally, with 3.0+1.0 released, I can rest easy knowing that Shinji has finally reached the light at the end of the tunnel. Evangelion is finished, and I want it to remain that way.
But if things hadn’t turned out that way, I wouldn’t be here today.
You're not crazy for thinking an anime traumatized you. It's an insanely dark and disturbing anime with so many heavy topics there really should be a warning before watching it. I havent watched any of the movies but in my opinion the whole show is just a commentary and existential deep dive into the human consciousness. I think everyone is supposed to relate to shinji too, in some ways or others. Battling depression is so tough but I promise that you got this. You can do it man and just keep doing things that make you happy :)
Shut up Oddball.
skull emoji. that's sad, what's your relationship like with your father?
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Extremely respectable favourites right there. Can't speak for everyone there, but the anime are certified classics and the selection of protagonists is great, they all have their own upsides to distinguish from each other
Thank you so much for making this 🙏🏻
Theres a cracked out asian dude crunchyroll hired to do the entire lore/history of all of evangellion anime, games, mangas, and commercials. Its pretty good and pretty damn wild
These pronunciations are fucking wild. "Nayako Aji" legit floored me. Good Iceberg tho
Yo it’s crazy u made this video when I literally finished this anime a month ago! I’m very excited for this iceberg since the ones on TH-cam are kinda of disappointing.
1:04:16 okay, I just watched this scene back and, in my opinion at least, it js HEAVILY implied that it’s Misato that killed Kaji. Who else would he be happy to see the way he’s shown? Scene hard cuts to Misato’s room where she’s sitting with head in hands as sirens blare? I get that Anno said it wasn’t her, but it feels heavily implied by the shots.
I mean I’m pretty sure Kaji knew he was gonna die and so he was just greeting his killer in a way he wouldn’t expect
I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that end of evagelion syncs up with The Downward Spiral by Nine Inch Nails (Mostly).
Ngl I watched the series just for this iceberg, totally worth it
15:47 there's also that GI Joe comic where Cobra Commander has himself mutated and looks like an angel.
Cowboy Bebop is in some of the Super Robot Wars games because fans voted on it to be in there.
Misado also mentioned in the show I believe it was episode 3 or 4 that she got pen pen from her last job. She also mentioned that he was called a hot springs penguin and that these days they are very rare but they used to be all around. Wonder what that means
22:16 wasn't expecting a mention of bo3 or the fact it has mechs ever in an evangelion video, crazy. Also yes it is a mecha, the first image you showed is a mech in zombies, and you can fight a mech in the campaign as a boss in one of the later levels
I'm kinda late to the party here, but I felt inclined to comment! For starters, awesome video! I really like how thorough you were. I recently just got back into Evangelion after kinda forgetting it's existence for awhile and I remembered why it's actually my favorite anime ever--also I love Iceberg videos because I'm a sucker for these sorts of fun facts/deep trivia. On the topic of the Rebuilds; I know some people have been crass in the comments about your opinion, personally I do like them but I understand why not everyone would, so to each their own at the end of the day. What I do disagree with is the disregard when it comes to the "Time Loop"/Sequel Theory. Obviously no grudge of course, at the end of the day Evangelion has that element of self-interpretation, but to me the Sequel Theory is pretty likely.
The final Rebuild movie goes out of it's way to connect itself to the original, such as Kaworu's seemingly existing familiarity with Shinji throughout all the films before even meeting him to Shinji even saying "I've been here before" in the final film when talking to Kaworu again towards the end. I don't think it's fair to say "The evidence for the theory has been debunked" when there's a decent chunk of evidence that wasn't even brought up here (Not a fault of you to be fair, this is a 2 hour long video covering many topics and you can only spend so much time on one before needing to move forward.) The other point I would mention is that the final Rebuild film does literally showcase footage from the original anime when Shinji is talking to Rei towards the end of the film as well; there's more to say on the matter but I don't even think I'm the best person to explain every aspect, and this has already ran pretty long already.
Still, awesome video!
Neon genesis evangelion is my favorite anime of all time. Thanks for this interesting and well-researched video about it. I enjoyed it very much :)
Gosh theses iceberg videos are so amazing and love to see every new one that comes out love the vids man keep up the good work
After the End is probably the most joy I've ever felt watching Evangelion. The Rei rant was amazing.
In preparation for the iceberg, I had to go back and rewatch the original series and The End of Evangelion. I wish I could go back in time so I can see what it was like to experience the most serial science fiction anime ever.
10:50 jet alone is the project that led to the pliotless evas. this is a threat
fair
The Jordan Peele/Nope thing is awesome thank you so much for this video!
I'm enjoying the diversity of content, will we be getting JJBA and/or One Piece Iceberg in the future? Keep up the great work!
shit like this is why Eva will persist generations hence. No one can comprehend it all and that’s the point. It’s just cool.
I got this recommended randomly..
Am i a big NGE fan? No.
Am i watching a 2h video? Hell yea
You mentioned that evangelion angel power scaling video in the beginning that went missing, while I unfortunately don't have an archive and can't seem to find it in any capacity for what it's worth I can give you the name of the channel that uploaded the video, S3thReviewsMedia, he unfortunately took the video down but of the few videos on his channel his oldest one shows a brief clip of the video in question which I'm pretty positive is the one you're looking for. He recently posted a long-form video about 2 weeks ago so it's clear he's still active and you might have some luck reaching out to him about the video and if he still has it in any capacity available!
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Can attest
The Re-Take doujin series is one of the best Evangelion fan materials in existence, and YES, that includes the doujin scenes which further work to improve upon the development of the characters in the story.
I’m not reading hentai of two minors banging
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@@Pigpen_YT Lmao fair. I'll say this though, the only organ in my body that got lubed from reading this was my tear glands. Such a beautiful story, man.
Another banger video 🔥🔥🔥
Can’t wait for your next iceberg video, hype for the gears of war one.
1:12:12 i think its worth noting that ano didnt just get frustrated at asuka's va, he made shinji's va straddle her and choke her like shinji does to asuka. asuka's va said she never wanted to voice asuka again but apparently changed her mind after befriending her english va
I don’t think that happened
when i purposely spread misinformation on the internet
I doubt that's true but you can probably justify it with the third impact
Real
I was just rewatching this and will probably rewatch the Fate one as well. I really enjoy just how much Eva media there is to talk about, and I may get into some, other than just the normal series. Also wanted to say that I enjoy the content, and I hope this and Fate aren't the only weeb icebergs you make.
There’s at least four more I plan on doing dw
Me with the bad bitch I pulled by being an unsupervised minor
Was not the best idea to watch this and then go down the rabbit holes at 2am, great vid!
After watching through this entire video in one sitting I wonder why the fuck I watched through this entire video in one sitting
I am watching this and even though I finished the original Neon Genesis Evangelion, I am learning stuff that happened in the show that was apparently common knowledge, I feel so stupid right now
Here's hoping a live action evangelion will never be made
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i'm so invested and obsessed with eva that I actually finished watching this video. I'm ngl it's one of my favorite, if not my favorite animes and I only watched it last week.
On my first watch through I genuinely just assumed it was Misato who shot Kaji. It just seemed like the most obvious conclusion to me given the prior scene
now I don't know what an Evanjelly is, but your icebergs are top tier shit so I'll watch it anyway.