To add on to the 'Purple shirt walker' phenomenon; if you go back to the first season when Rick and the group cover themselves in Walker guts to escape Atlanta, after the rain washes the guts off and they're running away you can actually see Walkers JUMP a fence even though Walkers can't climb. This has driven me insane for years.
@@cinemaonwaffle8227 That sorta goes into the decomposition theory. That as time has progressed, the walkers have become less agile due to their muscles decomposing.
@@PerfectDark0 that doesn’t work cus even recently turned walkers such as merle and deanna were slow, it’s just a writing error nothing deeper than that
The soul being trapped in a vessel they cant control is terrifying. The idea that you could see the body your trapped in consuming your loved ones, and you cant fight it is haunting...
There’s a book I read in highschool about this concept. Several chapters are written from the perspective of someone’s soul trapped inside a zombie. I don’t remember what it’s called though..
For "The whole world is haunted" where the souls are kinda trapped in a husk that is a walker, I thought of the belief that Siddiq's mother told him, where killing a walker frees the soul from the monster of a shell, explaining why he sets up walker traps just to kill them. That moment stuck with me ever since I heard it and really puts into religious perspective on what is going on in the show.
It kind of reminds me of Metro 2033, and the closest we ever get for an explanation for the ghosts, that being that the nuclear war ended up atomizing Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory, trapping all those who died in the initial blast on earyh, forever reliving their last moments. Honestly, it's just a great concept, since so many pieces of media for an apocalypse ignore the possible religious/spiritual ramifications, unless it's a direct cause.
It just sucks that his stupid beliefs got Carl killed. Should have been no reason Carl is running around the woods "freeing" souls. Siddiq should have gotten the same treatment as Lizzie. Just look at the flowers and stop wasting our time going around the woods doing the dumbest shit i have ever heard in an apocalypse.
AMC: "You can't have Negan say fuck 23 times!" Also AMC: "You can show Negan literally bashing Glenn's head in so hard that his eye pops out in what might be the most brutal television death ever, next to Game of Thrones."
@@josh-sp9dd there are a LOT of brutal deaths in GoT; Oberyn’s skull being crushed, Viserys getting molten gold poured over his head, Pycelle being stabbed to death by a group of kids, Faith Millitant member having his face ripped off - you get the picture. Though, for me, Glenn’s death is by far worse on the emotional side. Most of the afore mentioned GoT characters (except Oberyn) people weren’t particularly attached to, whereas Glenn’s death was much more impactful on the viewer. The tragedy of his death, knowing that he’ll never meet his son, knowing Maggie is going to have to raise the child on her own, is what really puts it above those GoT deaths for me. Glenn’s death symbolises the end of innocence, something which viewers have clung onto and seen in him from the start, so this death is far worse (imo)
"Tainted meat" is easily one of my favorite scenes. The fact that they were THAT shook from the realization without even thinking about it beforehand is another victory for Bob. 😂
Tainted meat comes up again with the pigs being fed Walkers at the Kingdom. Those pigs were then given to the Saviors. I wish the show had addressed how this affected the Saviors who ate the pigs.
It drives me crazy because like the CDC guy told Rick that everyone was already infected with the virus, and we know that the bite is often not what kills you it's the fever that does so like would eating walker meat even DO anything???? Would they have maybe come down with the fever later?? I think about it constantly
@@meh.3918 I wanna say that eating Walker meat would probably make you incredibly sick considering their meat is rotten while eating human meat wouldn’t do anything because the virus is “inactive” and the bite is basically an activation agent for the virus. Also, if Bob knew everyone was infected and said that to the cannibals, they probably wouldn’t believe him and he needed to be bit to terrify them.
@@meh.3918 well tbh I'd have a big problem with earting people in the first place, especially if they were rotting and decomposed. Of course the idea of infection would be pretty worrying but idk, eating ppl is the bigger problem for me.
I’m really sad you didn’t mention rick’s immunity theory. It’s 100% a fan theory but basically some people believe that Rick is actually immortal/has walker-esk regenerative abilities. Evidence is: how he woke up in the hospital after not being tended to for months. I forgot which episode but after a brutal fistfight with the governor he “goes to sleep” and sleeps for like a day or two but wakes up alive. Not to mention the CDC guy tested his blood and whispered somethihg into his ear. Rick tells the group it was about everyone being infected, but what if there was more? “The world needs Rick grimes” could have a hugely other meaning.
@@nonbinarysunset555 it’s still serious, he could’ve really easily gotten his wound infected, skin breakdown, a lot of stuff. Idk it’s just something I think about
The purple shirt walker was also a homage to the original dawn and day of the dead where the zombies would often find themselves going back to old routines, with this idea being a main focal point in Day.
This Isn’t true but I heard from somewhere that the actor who played the purple shirt Walker was Charlie Adlard (artist for the comic) but it’s completely bullshit, they don’t even look alike.
I think my favorite answer to the group’s questions is from bon “How many people you killed?” “One” “Why?” “Because she asked me to” It implies so much and it’s indirect and it adds to bob character
It's dark and honestly gives him in my eyes, a better look. The man has taken human life, yet it is implied it was to prevent someone else from turning. To me, it makes him more admirable. Maybe that's because personally, I would want anything but to come back as a husk trying to kill others.
The Hero is the Villain, The Coma/Dream Theory and X is Actually Y styled theories are always the laziest theories to me, because they all hinge on “This inconsistency exists so therefore, it can’t be real” or “I just learned what post-modernism is so nothing you say can counter my belief because any intent the author had HAS to be ignored and my interpretation is all that matters.” They’re almost memes to me because while some shows/stories/movies/etc. have done it, the idea that almost EVERY piece of media is secretly developed around one of those ideas borders on delusion.
@@LateNightTableCo I feel like a lot of people just misuse and exaggerate "the hero is the villain" concept for grey characters. Grey main characters are neither the main villains nor heroes. They are human, and they can work really well if written right (like Johnny from Steel Ball Run). As for the coma theory, yeah they suck especially if the story has a lot of worldbuilding in them. Imagine being a writer and you made a complex world for your characters, but your audience just mocks it up as "it's not real lol they're in a coma!!!". This is especially annoying if the story has a ton of fantasy in it like Pokemon and Adventure Time (I see the theory the most in these). It undermines the writer's efforts, and it's really not a fun theory to hold on to.
Glenn's final line "Maggie, I'll find you" I firmly believe comes from the Korean cultural idea of reincarnation and finding your soulmate in the next life
@@distinguishedallureproduct879 I think it was even mentioned in a “talking dead” episode directly after the episode where he died where Maggie’s actor stated how his line was meant to show how Glen and Maggie are like star crossed lovers who’ll always find themselves wherever they are
15:55 so its kinda cool too see this 2 years later now having seen the new show they explained it, An A is a leader and wants to help and be the hero, a B is a follower, needs guidance and goes with the rules, A's get dragged away and killed B's get accepted into the new world
In regards to Sophia, Rick also says something about "keeping the sun over her left shoulder", and when she comes out of the barn, her left shoulder is where her Walker bite is.
Carol turning super fast made me think it’s a willpower thing. Like how people in hospitals with windows have a better survival rate. Carol was hella depressed and wanted to change. Maybe it varies due to peoples will power
That's a pretty great theory! I think personally like @DekuDude888 said that the weakened immune system (because depression) could also be a huge factor
This makes sense to me. She had given up on life at that point and her mental state had been going downhill in the comics for a long time so this probably led to her turning alot faster than anybody else we've seen get bitten since those people still have the will to live
In fear the walking dead, a militia kidnaps people and test how fast they turn after being bit. Surprisingly, they actually figured it out. It has to do with age, weight, height, medical conditions, etc. And they could accurately predict how long it will take.
Fun Fact: What happens to Bob in Season 5: Terminus eating his "tainted" leg, is exactly what happens to Dale in the Walking Dead comic, obviously they couldn't do that in the show because Dale was killed off by this point, but I guess they really liked the scene lol.
A lot of these kinds of things were (obviously) taken from the comic, just replaced by different characters! The two girls with Carol and Tyreese were, in the comic, Allen and Donna and their twin boys. One of the boys killed someone (I canmt remember who lol) and then his brother, then Maggie tried to kill herself... it was a cluster. The all-mighty Rick came to the rescue. You can guess what happened to the boy. Tyreese also came in earlier in the comics, when it was snowing....in Georgia...yeahhh. I guess you probably already knew this, since you brought up the comics, but hopefully someone who didn’t will see this :D ALSO: apparently during the development of twdg season 2, they were playing with the idea of the group going into a city during winter and getting picked off one by one, their corpses torn up. The assailant would be an escaped zoo tiger, but everyone found that idea silly and a little stupid. Then, a few months later, the first issue with Ezekiel and Shiva came out. Lol.
i remember this scene was the first thing i saw of the show on tv before actually starting to watch it almost a year later on netflix👀 And it's actually great knowing Dale lived longer in the comics, don't even mind the mini spoiler here. He was one of my faves and i hated seeing him go so fast😪
On the orange backpack, I didn’t take it as a symbol of trust. I thought it as a symbol to represent how times have become darker to the point that equipment is lasting longer than even the most prepared people. I also had the side thought that it may represent things have gotten worse to the point everyone is killing each other, purely for their supplies.
I'm so confused about why AMC thought that Rick finding Lori swallowed whole by a walker was less disturbing than finding her skeleton... If it were my loved one, I'd much rather the the skeleton scenario
For me, seeing a skeleton would be more disturbing tbh. I can’t imagine having to pick up the bones of a loved one and having to bury their remains. It would be less personal to drag that walker out and burn it along with all the other ones instead of carrying your loved one’s skeleton out into a field. This comment really got me thinking damn
There's a web only short that shows exactly how Rick survived his coma. There was a nurse who stayed behind in the hospital and took care of him. She died only a few days before Rick wakes up. She's also the person that chained those double doors and wrote "don't open, dead inside."
Glenn claimed to have played portal back in season 2, but portal straight up wouldn’t exist without half-life. However, the walking dead exists in a universe without the concept of zombies prior to the outbreak. But how could this be if half life and half life 2 famously feature the head crab zombies.
i thought it was a world where night of the living dead and other similar movies weren't made and popularized the concept of zombies in pop culture, not a world where the idea of zombies themselves don't exist. particularly since zombification and other similar concepts are 1. actually real (parasitic mushrooms, for instance) and 2. common in folklore.
@@princeapoopoo5787 obviously the concept of zombification is real, but I doubt they would appear in video games the way they do without the influence of the movies that popularised
The purple shirt walker thing where some walkers have memories makes them more scary in my opinion. Trying to open the door, using a brick, picking up with teddy- making them more human is so much more disturbing. I actually wish they carried this on throughout the show, could have been cool (Edit: I assure you, I’m up to date. Happy they brought it back🫶🏽)
I think maybe they don't anymore because of decay. Like season 1 they remember stuff because they just turned but in season 2 they getting a lil hungy and that's the only thing their decayed brains can think of
@@noralex777 yeah that’s probably why but I don’t know why they don’t do it with freshly turned walkers. I suppose now the threats aren’t usually the walkers anymore so they (writers/directors or whoever) sort of pay less attention to them if that makes any sense ahah
i think that definitely would have happened if AMC never fired frank darabont. everything after that has felt like a bad attempt at following in his footsteps.
1:03:55 I don't think it's the only time we see a dead baby; I remember in season 2 after Sophia goes missing and the rest of the group stays waiting on the highway, they start to look for food, clothing or medicine in the abandoned cars. T-Dog is checking one of the cars and in the backseats he sees a baby seat covered in blood (similar to Judith's when they escape the prison) I remember it very vividly because of T-Dog's reaction; pure horror, he even went pale and stumbled back Man, T-Dog deserved better
Yea um so u said we see a dead baby. You never see a dead baby in the whole show. Sure violence and sa is terrible but showing a dead baby corpse would honestly just be to much.
@@Cloud_9_reveiws Nah, a dead baby is a dead baby. It's sad an innocent life who hasn't got a chance to live just die, especially horribly due to the walkers bite but that being said the baby didn't really lose much since the baby never got anything or experienced life. The baby wasn't even aware of life and death. It doesn't mean it should die but comparing it's death to people who have lived and suffered does not set right for me. To me the people who lived and suffered have gone through worse than a dead baby, so violence and SA is much brutal and horrifying.
@@Cloud_9_reveiwsi definitely remember seeing a dead behby when the episode aired live. I believe it was when the preist first came around, gabriel was his name i believe. I vividly remember going ahhhhhh that was wrong
I always loved Siddiq's character because of your last point. He grew up in an Islamic household and believed that people's souls were still trapped in the walkers, so he tried to kill every walker he saw in order to free them.
The idea came from Arabic folklore before Islam (Zoroastrianism most likely) in the idea of an reanimated human corpse haunted by evil spirit - Ghoul. Yeah. Ghouls originate in Middle East.
@@runimcomingforyou.4505 relax, friend. I will support your argument. In Islam, the soul is believed to be released from the body when someone dies. There's no such thing as being trapped inside the body. And about ghouls, ghosts, and other paranormal activities? It could be because of devils/demons (shayatin), because they can interact with our plane of existence and change shape into something else. Of course, if they are in our side of the world, we can interact (and even kill them). In Islam, when you die, your soul can't interact with this physical world and is moved onto a different realm, called Barzakh (where souls reside until the Day of Judgment).
The Negan Batting scene was in fact filmed with everyone on set. Even Negan got his turn after hours of actually hitting the whole cast with a foam rubber stunt bat. There's also another bonus scene of Negan AND Rick bashing Greg Nicitero. There's interviews with JDM where he's saying he felt like an absolute asshole, hitting the cast and joking about improv style.
Damn, remember when the arc with Daryl and Beth once they had gotten separated from the group and ended up at that country club, and they had to whack all those zombies with the golf clubs they found? Those actors were like, they’re rubber but they still hurt. I was like 😩 woooow, Norman Reedus was really swinging hard too!
Yea, apparently up until the reveal of who gets killed during the episode, no one except for those in charge of the production even knew who was really going to die in that episode (everyone was filmed a "death scene" to prevent leaking/spoilers ahead of time. I'm sure it costed a pretty penny, but definitely was something else.
I could never forget the Vatos gang. Me and my mom loved them. I spend a bit of my childhood in San Antonio and lived in a mostly ethnically Mexican community, and I got to learn a lot about Hispanic culture and stuff. When I was revealed that the Vatos were protecting the old people left behind, I loved that. It made perfect sense. If there’s anything my friends and neighbors from San Antonio taught me, it’s that you don’t give up on your community and you band together when things are tough and help eachother out. I dunno, I really liked them a lot. I headcannon it that theyre still doing it aight
@@stuglife5514 I want to believe that too, but even if the deleted scene isn't canon, there's still another hostile group in Atlanta, the Grady Memorial cops.
Those first two seasons are just beautiful, that's the only word I can use to describe them. Everything about it (even the cheesy writing and low budget) was just perfect to me. The showrunners had to work with what they had, and they did amazing work because of it. I can only imagine how great the show could've been if they never fired Darabont. I almost feel like I was robbed of a perfect zombie show because of AMC lmao
Season 2 was horrible when initially released. The slower pace made the wait every week, and the goddamn mid season finale feel like it took so long. If you binge it, it’s almost as amazing as season 1. Which tbh is extremely impressive considering how dirty they did Darabont
There's one thing I'd like to add to the 'Rick is the Villain' theory. If you look at Rick's character progression, he slightly adopts the previous villains philosophy. Shane led the group with an iron fist. After Rick killed Shane they took over the group in a dictatorship. There are even parallels between Rick's fight with Tyrese and Shane's fight with Ed. You can see aspects like this with the governor as well. Becoming more neutral with a us vs. them mentality. All the way up until Negan. The end of his story arc made Rick start taking the more heroic path implementing justice over murder. This makes Negan's group, Rick's saviors
@@grizlyspectr5695 Daryl told Rick and the others though that they were held at gunpoint by The Saviors, as well as Jesus telling them about how The Saviors killed a 16 year old kid in their community to make them fall in line.
@@dimitrescu182 yeah thats true but at the same time it sort of a way to survive by just killing one person and getting tribute to Negan but Rick killed 30 of em right off the bat which I sort of agree with in a sense of Negan has more than enough supplies and continued to dictate these groups instead of trying to unite them. I Agree with Negan sort of in a sense if your group was desperate and didn't have a Daryl kind of guy in the group who can just go into the woods and come back with animals to feed the group, I would've agreed with Negan at the beginning of the apocalypse at least, I heard starvation can change people a little for a while.
FINALLY the Vatos Gang!!!! i see no one talking about them and that upsets me because of how well written they are for the short time they had. For me, when it was revealed that these dudes were just dudes protecting a nursing home, it was one of the most human moments in the show for me. I fucking love the Vatos gang.
fun fact: there's a walking dead tour in a town in senoia, georgia that takes place where woodbury was (also got to see the outer walls of alexandria, the train tracks they film on/by) and the tour guide told us that if you look closely in the scenes before andrea dies, she has bright pink toenail polish on. the writers/directors said she was going to be killed off so she went and got a pedicure, but (per her contract) she had to film her death scene so they brought her back and they left in her bright pink pedi.
it's interesting, cause in the context of the show, I thought it was showing how Woodbury is cushy and nice and she had time to sit around and paint her nails. I didn't know it was just a 'mistake' from the actress lmao
They also shot for scenes in the area around Alexandria and hilltop in no in a town near chapel hill no they shot near snow camp and used some of the roads out back and they had some of it shot near our house. Lennie James riding the horse down the road to find Carole after she got shot was done in nc.
Regarding the last entry, I’ve always liked the uniquely theological/spiritual undertones that zombie stories have had. It’s something I think is more terrifying than just about anything, I remember a Free-To-Play zombie game I played a long while ago called No More Room In Hell, and it was a catchy name but it always stuck with me. And it wasn’t until I thought about it that it really hit me, now the idea of there being no more room in hell and hell taking over earth is one of my favorite horror concepts ever.
For the record, 'No More Room in Hell' takes its name from the original Dawn of the Dead. If I recall, the opening of the film is a televangelist speaking on TV, and his speech ends with 'When there is no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth."
It's also straight-up mentioned in the comics with the group Terminus was based off of that their first cannibalistic acts were eating the children in their group. The Bear eating their young line was directly taken from them.
“Walker Decomp…” Essentially means that if they had travelled South out of GA, everything would’ve been fine for them. Spend a few weeks in a swamp, and ALL the FL walkers would be piles of mush. Heat and humidity don’t preserve flesh all that well.
I think the Carol turning in seconds thing goes along with my theory that turning rate is much quicker on weak willed people. I thought A and B were describing strong willed leader types vs the opposite.
Of course, Rick could be an A but Jadis lied and called him a B. Maybe it's a bad thing to be an A, since you almost always seem to have to be bit. You may not have seen the show up until the Trasholes, but there's a reason why we trust NOTHING coming out of Jadis' mouth.
@@peste2574 and yeah, I thought so. First had the thought when she switched father Gabriel's designation after he showed a hell of a lot of backbone/ guts
fear the walking dead on season 3 has a thing where some wannabe soldiers group different types of people and let some get bit and others not be bitten maybe you are right
Fun fact about the whole Purple Walker and how walkers did some strange things early session. Originally, the first director wanted to have more smart walkers and even "sub-types" of walkers. But as new directors got on, they slowly canned the idea. Although they did seem to bring this back slightly with things like the "Runner" from World Beyond and how near the end of the main series, they climbed into the Commonwealth.
Variants aren’t the same as S1 Walkers and it’s basically said that the region and the outbreak being relatively fresh is what caused S1 walkers. Obviously it’s cause of the change in show runners but I think that’s what they say to make it more cohesive.
regarding beta being famous, i always figured negan going "holy shit do you know who that was" when beta is finally killed was not in reference to beta being who he was in the whisperers but because his mask was removed, negan recognized who he actually was; this celebrity in their universe.
Yeah I'm pretty sure that was the intended implication. Pretty much the entire group already knew of Beta's role in the herd and it would't be hard to recognize him. Also, not too long before that episode, we see Beta take what's left of Alpha on a date... and put on his own music. In the same episode, he executes a whisperer because he recognized his face.
I feel like it would be really cool to have a whole season of twd that just focused on different parts of the world or country on the first few days of the apocalypse. Just competent random people, most of them dying by the end of the episode, just so we can see what the start was like for many people.
That reminds me if maybe you’re interested in the walking dead video game series they have a dlc prequel kinda game called 400 days I believe and it is exactly what you described, it shows multiple people in the first 400 days of the apocalypse. If you are interested I won’t spoil what happens but it’s a pretty interesting and you might find exactly what you’re looking for in it :)
I always wanted the show to have a sister series from The Governors perspective where his group wins and they end up going through all the shit that Rick's group goes through.
fear the walking dead shows the first few months, they go from california to mexicali :) up to season 3 its so good but then we have a time jump in season 4
hearing more about the changes in the writer's room really makes me want a what if series of twd, like same actors and everything, also played both serious and as comedy
29:47 A VERY similar metaphor is used in Titanic before Jack dies. Rose says "I'll never let go" before letting go of Jack's dying body but she actually means letting go of the MEMORIES.
The scene where they're listening to Beta's record at the hilltop goes even deeper; the song Beta is singing is "The Turtle and the Monkey" by Emily Kinney, who played Beth on the show
@@x_vr_uzi7920 yeah they never changed the cameras (until recently anyways) and just made me feel like “im definitely watching twd” like the tone felt the same for every season because of the quality lol watching the recent episodes always throws me because we had like 10 seasons of 16mm cam
I miss the old slow burn show from Season 1. It was a slow burn but it went from one thing to another in a well paced manner. They didn't spend entire episodes talking in one spot. There was always danger lurking and they were always moving and surviving. I feel they took too much time trying to get every character some screen time so they do a lot of talking with each scene.
Another thing to add to the last theory is that Lizzie says “she can hear them talking and that they want to be her friend, they want those who are alive to join them” which is terrifying that a child is that mentally unstable to think like that. But maybe that proves that theory and she really could talk to the dead and listened to what they wanted. Then she died…
I think it's much more harrowing because it talks about the effects of the apocalypse on children and how even in the off chance adults manage to settle into some kind of peace their children will be much worse off mentally.
The green Hyundai was the funniest thing, like I’m certain Hyundai never intended for it to basically turn into an immunity idol for characters and it changed a bunch of the connotations people would take away from the car - not necessarily for the worse, but just definitely different.
“You know what it is” is Morgan reliving the moment where he trusted Duane to lay his mother to rest. Duane wanted to believe that there was still a part of his mother left. He “was supposed to” put her down because he’s been told she’s nothing but a walker now. “You know what IT is.” It’s just a walker. But Duane froze, pleaded to his mum and got bit, leading to Morgan having to put them both down.
Yes! And wasn’t there a scene where Morgan finally went back to the house and Duane was chained in the attic but he forgot doing that? Just before the house burnt down?
@@elizabethbishop8352yes this was in Fear the walking dead. It goes way more in depth about Morgan’s story. His “seeing red” and his guilt and anger leads back to his “bad side” of leaving Duane there and never putting him to rest
Funny thing about the “space spore”. When the creator of Walking Dead was pitching the comic to the publisher, he had to pretend that the series was actually about aliens. This is because the publishers and editors where uninterested in zombies and he could not sell them the idea. So he lied about it actually being a story about aliens that happened to include zombies. In fact, he went as far as saying that in the beginning, there would be hidden references to a alien invasion. Of course, there are no such references or any aliens at all in Walking Dead, but that got the show pitched.
They sold some copies of issue 50 that had a fake ending to that issue with aliens. They later continued that story in skybound X as a non-canon story. It’s called Rick Grimes 2000, if you’re interested.
1:11:15 After finishing the show and now rewatching up to the S2 finale, the shot of the walkers in Herschel’s barn burning in a fiery inferno made me think a similar thing.That the characters of TWD are in hell. There’s a sort of uncanniness to TWD in early seasons. The slightly grainy camerawork, the walkers who almost don’t look real in some scenes. It seems like a Matrix-like reality, like I expect the camera to pull back in some scenes and show a television screen. Added to that is the fact that the protagonists constantly encounter the same things over and over: either other groups they must contend with, or walkers, both of whom kill the protags loved ones again and again. Its a never ending purgatory. The S2 finale and the S11 finale (spoilers) where we get a shot of the earth opening up and walkers falling in a fiery explosion reinforce this idea for me that the characters are just playthings being tormented by a higher being, or in hell.
@@faustsiftar7683 The Earth opened up because they blew up the sewers of Commonwealth. They constantly contend with groups over and over again because people kind of suck and that's one message the show tries to get across. Cool idea though.
It would’ve been dope as all hell, and that’s saying something considering the _major_ popularity this show had garnered in its first handful and a bit of seasons.
The amount of characters who were killed or removed not for story reasons but instead so the studio could get rid of their actors is tragic. Dale, Andrea and Carl's deaths all felt forced. Morgan and Dwight got squeezed out of the main show.
6:00 fun fact. When he pitched the comic to Todd McFarlane he made it out to seem like an alien invasion story because he didn't think Todd would greenlight a zombie comic. Todd eventually found out but it was so popular it didn't matter.
You were wrong about 1 thing. The "opening title decay" theory 14:16 This is actually to symbolize the decay in the quality of the writing and plotline over the course of the series.
Just imagine Frank telling Kirkman "hey dude, wouldn't it be cool if the opening title decayed overtime after s3 lmao" while he tugged Kirkmans' arm with an evil grin on his face
They didn’t need to do dale so dirty. He was legitimately my favorite character. Edit: also the vatos gang is my favorite subplot. I love the fact that they were just janitors taking care of forgotten people.
Yeah saddest death pre season 5. Or whenever the black dude that was with carol and the kids died, i cant remember, tyrik or something. Havent seen the show im years, am rewatching it, on season 4 rn and its been a couple months, had to take a break after the governor. Least favourite villain.
The pharmacy sink reminds me a lot of the water treatment plant from Last of Us. A classroom with one adult skeleton and many more much smaller bodies covered with sheets. A note reads along the lines of, "they're right outside. I'm with the kids. If rescue doesn't arrive soon, I promise they didn't suffer."
@@svenrio8521 Yes! HBO is doing it. The show is still in production so no trailers or teasers yet but Pedro Pascal (Game of Thrones, Narcos, The Mandelorian, etc) is playing Joel and Bella Ramsey is playing Ellie, the people behind the games are also very involved with the adaptation apparently, Neil Druckman even said he directed some of it.
Wish you touched on the scene from Season 2 where Herschel is trying to stop the farm from being overrun with an infinite ammo shotgun. During the scene where he's firing randomly into the field at approaching walkers, he goes through almost 4 dozen shells without reloading once.
Getting calls from the recently deceased is a real life phenomenon apparently. I specifically remember a story about a man getting killed in a train crash, but his family claimed that he called them and either said a few words or nothing at all before hanging up
I’ve also seen a few different posts on this as well. One was a grandparent who died of cancer calling his family. It was a Reddit post with a bunch of similar experiences. How truthful they are is always up for interpretation though
A girl at my school had a sister but it was before she was born and her sister died at 3 suspiciously the door to the house was open everybody else was asleep in the living room and she was in another room just dead so they assumed that she was murdered but they couldn't figure out who it was when the girl at my school turned 9 there was a voice message left on her house phone and it had the same exact voice as her sister
In relation to the walker decomp point, the 'walker virus' cannot truly die out until all humans die, as they're all already infected. Even if all actual walkers on the planet were eradicated, it would only take one person to die unattended to kick things off again. Grim.
But if everyone get's the fact that if you die, you become a walker, wouldn't it make people more conscious about it? Like, I'm about to die, so I'll either shot myself on the head, or I'll bind myself somewhere so I at least won't harm anyone.
@@Mateus_Pereira_Silva yeah but like someone could have a sudden heart attack while out on their own, it'd be impossible to rule out 100% I think it says more about my pessimism than anything else :D
@@Mateus_Pereira_Silva Humans have a tendency to get very complacent, and will end up forgetting about the dangers of certain things. Even in TWD, people know that once you die you will come back as a walker, but several times, the group have witnessed people die to walkers, and the people came back as walkers before the group shot/stabbed them in the head. It has happened to a group of people with a leader that was told first hand from a scientist that everybody is infected, and they still wouldn't always shoot or stab the person in the head when they died.
I liked the idea of walkers keeping parts of their memories, but it makes sense that as time progressess, these would diminsh as the body and brain itself deteoriate over time. It would be more interesting to make spinoff placed to the time right after breakout, where we could get deeper look into this.
im surprised not many people in this comment section know about fear, while fear the walking dead have the dumb zombies that are after season 1 in the original show, but fear for the first season and maybe half of season 2 does show what happens to california during the outbreak and right after, they end up moving to mexico than a time jump in season 4 where theyre in texas.
It the letter hacks section of the comics, Mr Kirkman responds to a letter asking about walker intelligence. Kirkman says that they have no memories of their past life.
somewhat unrelated, but a manga called "I Am a Hero" had the concept of zombies viewing other zombies as what they were before they were infected (i.e. they saw themselves as humans) but the ones who are *the* Survivors saw them as zombies and not humans
I've always wondered about the cow in season 2. We are shown a cow being eaten by zombies. Later on, we are shown the cow half eaten, yet it is still moving. Some people claim it was simply in pain dying slowly, but there's no reason to show that. I feel the intent was to suggest that the virus had possibly migrated to other species. This never came to be, so thoughts?
No reason to show it? Is suffering not a theme in that show? Suffering and inevitable death with no choice but to continue and no ability to save yourself? People are more shocked with violence against animals so maybe it was intended to impact you, like it seems it did.
@@johns1625 twd season 1 and 2: Suffering and inevitable death with no choice but to c... twd after season 1 and 2: CORL GET THE MOTHA FUCKIN GUNS THERE IS SOME BAD GUYS IN OUR DOOR (endless gun shots but they don't even that much of ammo lol) (some random important character dies for nothing) (bad guy dies) ok boys we are saf- (again some random villian appears again)
"The World is Haunted" actually fits the show really well The ghosts of the dead are the reason why people fall over from nothing at all, getting tripped by bitter ghosts
I always thought A and B was meant to be leaders or followers. Negan was a clear leader. Rick was too until he was ready to give it up and let Maggie take over making him a B. Gabriel was always a follower until he maned up and told her no, essentially showing power/authority over her making her see him as an A.
this is also what i thought, plus ive seen a theory that when rick was originally held by Jadis, he was in a container marked A, but when they became friends, and she wanted to get him genuine help, she lied to the helicopter people and told them he was a B
@@FallingUpwards-l8y could mean type A personality. Aggressive, domineering and focused and B in their code could mean other people who aren’t as “intense”
This is exactly the simplest explanation and they knew the simple minded masses would think something along these lines and knew it would confuse them. I promise you this; A’s are people who are unwilling to join the CRM but are strong survivors. So they’re used for forced testing (hence why Jadis was going to have Negan bitten. They’re testing the Walker virus. B’s are people who ARE willing to join the CRM. B’s may still be tested but it would be a voluntary thing such as blood work. This is why Jadis lies about Rick being a B. The CRM probably won’t waste too many resources for an A. After all, any living being could be an A to them plus the trouble of taking in a random person who fights back probably isn’t worth it. But if they think he’s a willing survivor, then they’d be more likely to come pick her and him up.
26:03 I think the turning rate is the amount of strength and willpower someone had during their time of death. Carol essentially gave up and that’s why she turned fast
@@RandoManFPV Season 10, it's been out for a long time. Streaming services are normally behind the release schedule for the original airing, but from what I've seen Season 11 (final season and already out in full) will come to Netflix around November. That's just a speculation, though.
The pharmacy sink scene is… god. Genuinely a SCARY scene, the implication is fucking gut wrenching it’s morbid and depressing as hell and was a weird but kind of nice change of pace from the normal violence and gore (not that that stuff in twd is bad by any means)
Try seeing that as a father who lost a kid. From experience, it's a mind fuck, sans reach around. Lost mine, and his or her mother, unborn, 30 years ago. Lost my adopted, unofficial, dsughter in 2018. Been with my wife, and raised her daughter for 21 years, and they are my world. I'd die, or kill for them. That doesn't mean that I don't miss my girl, and that I wouldn't give any, and everything, just to hold my son or daughter. In the 11 seasons, that was the only scene to got to me. Because of where it takes your mind in that moment.
One of my favorite things in the walking dead is when Rick is battling the savior's and he sees the dude that was a part of his group with his family before they went to Hershel's in season one and the man is now a part of the Savior's, he also has lost his family, his story is very similar to Rick except Rick still had Carl at that point, they both suffered a lot, both started in the same place, both were good men but the other guy ended up with the Saviors. I think that it shows what u were talking about, how easily the Saviors could have been our heroes and Rick could have been the villian if the perspectives were changed. It also shows how far Rick has made it and how much he has changed I think
The a and b theory after seeing the ones who live is funny. Also the purple shirt walker kinda also gets explained a bit because the walkers evolve a bit, ie the ones climbing on the castle towards the end or im pretty sure a walker uses a door knob.
The first season zombies having wild characteristics and actions I always chocked up to “they’re fresh zombies” so maybe they still had some humanity. Which is also kinda why fresh reanimated zombies in the later seasons kinda jump up and jog towards people faster than others (for example the zombie that stands up and kills Mara was moving fairly quicker than the other zombies have been)
Intelligent, variant zombies have been reintroduced. A walker that opened a door via doorknob, climbed up a wall, and picked up a rock to use as a weapon. He definitely wasn't freshly dead with lingering humanity, so why? A theory I heard, is that the smarter, more cautious walkers (variants), while extremely rare, would stay back and be much more careful. Leading to them staying alove longer than regular walkers. So eventually, the mindless walkers will start to thin out, but the variants will live on, making it appear as if there are more of them than what was initially perceived. I can't wait until someome has to face a small horde of intelligent zombies.
@@ntdoowns I mean the short answer is they retconned that shit and realized it was a mistake haha. But I agree I wanna see more of that. An actual challenge for the characters because now zombies aren’t just walking and biting but actually fighting with them.
This is actually talked about in the comics, too. When Dale is on his deathbed he warns Andrea that if she doesn't act super quickly or loses her nerve he could bite her the minute he turns because he's such a fresh zombie his motor skills and reflexes are pretty much that of a non-dead human.
Something I found out was that in Romero's movies, intelligent zombies were a thing like 3 or 4 zombies learned how to drive vehicles, open doors, hell even use automatic weapons. Like zombies retained some form of intelligence in his movies and I loved it.
The "welcome to the dogtrot" portion reminds me of going through buildings and being able to paint of picture of what happened when the bombs fell in fallout
Frank Darabont's ideas for 2 season were so interesting and if he were never fired I think the walking dead would be considered 1 of the greatest show ever
I still don’t believe that the world would ever recover from the walkers. The show states that everyone is already infected, so even if all the walkers died, the surviving humans would eventually turn. However, it would be a good idea if newer generations would slowly built an immunity to the virus. In which case, there would be a chance for humanities survival.
The walkers committing actions from their previous life wouldn’t necessarily mean the person is a “passenger while this space spore controls their body” since memory is a physical thing in your organic body. The zombies could just be having flashes of their past life because a few electrical signals make it past the brain stem and up through the rest of their brain. Though I like your interpretation better.
Just wanted to say that the whole thing with the "space spores" from a meteor in Night of the Living Dead, which Kirkman referenced in that tweet, is itself a biblical reference to Wormwood, either an angel, star or both that according to the Book of Revelation will fall to the earth at the apocalypse and poison the waters. So that actually goes quite well with what Herschel said about the gates of heaven being locked and those themes of purgatory for both Walkers and survivors.
Jeffrey Dean Morgan said himself they shot a scene of everyone dying from the baseball bat. He said his arms got so tired they had to bring in a stunt guy to it. But the stunt guy ended up accidentally hurting someone. Oh and if I remember correctly, they all got hit on the head many times, with a polysterene bat or a prop bat, something to that effect.
hearing about “the lone walker” theory makes me grateful about “The Ones Who Live,” Rick only wanted to protect his family, so it makes sense to have an ending where he has one. the show also echoes Glen’s “i will find you” to Maggie, since that’s exactly what Michonne did
I always think about that. To be fair, this vid has made me appreciate some moments of show more, but Frank would have probably kept me watching the show past season 7
It’s not just that, that ruined it. The beginning had loads of society left and wasn’t in the countryside, nowadays it’s just rural stuff and rural settings because they can’t afford recording in cities. It sucks.
Even though this video is focused to the main show, another little thing that plays into the supernatural hallucinations/remnants of people inside walkers idea is something out of Fear the Walking Dead. One of the characters, Nick, figures out the walker-guts trick pretty early on in the apocalypse and spends an extended amount of time walking among the dead in a desert. After a while he starts looking at them and instead of seeing rotting walkers, he sees clean, normal humans walking alongside him and looking directly at him. That happened in one of the earlier seasons so it's been a while since I've seen it but I'm pretty sure he hears them whispering to him as well.
Seriously! I loved Fear so much in the first 2 seasons. I personally don't like the supernatural implications, instead I treat them as simply hallucinations of people absolutely going nuts due to what they've seen. Rick, Morgan, Nick, Daniel, Alpha, Beta, Carol... I personally think it's a whole lot scarier when you think about the mental health of these characters. All very capable people, just imagine how better things would've been for themselves and everyone around if they weren't all severely traumatized.
Regarding the purple shirt walker and the other similar oddities, I'd bet that relatively new walkers haven't completely entered that cattle phase and retain some bits and pieces of memory / habit.
My theory is that at first the virus/infection/whatever makes you turn was more refined, so basically the first waves of infected were smarter and retained some muscle memory and gimics, but as time went on the infection lost its potency/ "quality". "Smart" walker bites > person turns into a smart walker wich bites > person turns into a less smart walker wich bites > repeat until the walkers are just regular brainded creatures following sound and movement.
Well There was a Case of a man Who was shot in his bed, destroying the part of the brain responsible for Advanced and Complex thinking...and then they found is blood on his dishwasher and counter...the man was going thru things he did in the day like a Robot. so that's how i think the Walkers were doing that. the purple shirt Went on the bus a lot so that was autopilot, opening a door, picking up your toy, just random things they did.
no. They have already clearly explained this as going a different way with the show after the first season. common knowledge. no need for bogus theories
I used to be so addicted to this show and the whole universe of it and every game that was made even when they weren't that great. Even way past the point everyone else started hating the show I was very into it up to probably season 8 or 9. I even started reading the comics because after a mid season finale I couldn't wait for more so I went looking. I ended up enjoying the comic even more than the show and today I own the entire comic series physically. But now it's like everything this series ever does under any department it feels more like "it makes money so let's do it" rather than "we have good ideas so let's do them" I wish I could still be as into this as I used to be.
That seems to be the mentality for most shoes unfortunately. I always get so disappointed when I found out about cut or deleted scenes from different shows because I cant help but think of how much better the show could have been overall. I was actually surprised to see how much stuff they left out of this show.
@@theironrubberduck it's not so much what they cut from the comic but the way they do it that bothers me. Like for the longest time the show was different from the comic In very good ways. The CDC was a great addition, Shane was a much better character in the show, obviously Daryl and Meryl are fan favorites and they don't even exist in the comic. alot of the bad changes are really just little nitpicks like the lack of swearing which they need to do cause it's on basic tv, or never getting around to cutting ricks hand off which do they really need to anyway? But once you start getting into season 8 and season 9 where literally the entire heart and soul of the show is ripped out when carl dies and Rick gets taken off in a helicopter never to be seen again that's where the show was changed into an irredeemable state and been in a purgatory not alive but not quite dead yet state ever since. The one constant you always had in this show was the main character and his son, you don't have a walking dead story without Rick and Carl as far as I'm concerned. In the comic the entire story lived and died by those 2 characters. Alot of these changes I don't mind at all and alot of times I actually liked that the show did stuff a little different but they changed too much. And Rick leaving I know isn't so much the shows fault the actor was doing the role for a decade and wanted a break but that doesn't change the fact that Rick leaving the show completely put those nails in the shows coffin. Even with him coming back now it's kinda too late.
@@wrathoftheflyingspaghettim850 Carl’s death was the biggest mistake the show made imo, especially after seeing how much his character grew and where his comic counterpart ended up.
22:11 Agreed, I don’t believe Otis put her in the barn, but I also think Hershel really didn’t know. I think Jimmy put her there during the time everyone was worried about Carl and thats why when Carl woke up he was asking about her. And I believe Patricia (who fed the walkers) never said anything cause she didn’t want the group to leave like Hershel did
I don't think that makes a difference it was either odis or Jimmy. It's not a bad thing cause she was a Walker. Nobody's blaming them they're just upset because It had been through the whole time. But Otis was out with Shane. And the others were still at the freeway so ot is was dead by the time the others showed up. Why wouldn't Jimmy unventured I put a little girl in there.. I don't think anybody's trying to put down Otis but hes the only one that couldn't speak up and say Hey there's a little girl I put in the barn. So most likely it was odest the rest of the people did not know she was in there or they would have said something. You put it you're kind of making it sound like they hit it from Rick and the group and that is not who Herschel was.
imo season 1 and 2 are amazing and then after that it goes up and down, but when Rick gave the "we tell ourselves that we are the walking dead" speech it was such an amazing moment.
Like every show that turns bad, there's still some treasures in the piles of trash. After the 1st season I do love the farm and the prison seasons, after that I just started liking *most parts* and then *some* and then *a little* and then "you're going to have to watch for a while to find something" so eventually it wasn't worth it to continue.
@@millsrome yeah, I can’t find myself to watch the show consistently after season 5 until Negan shows up. Jeffrey Dean Morgan really steals the scene, I like that Negan is a comedic relief but other than that the show isn’t that good anymore (for me)
@@yazminlares6000 Actually I'm the complete opposite lmao not because he's a bad guy because I like the villains more that the main protagonists sometimes and a really good antagonist elevates the show... but I hate JDM portrayal with a passion! I have never seen him in anything else and I don't know if the decisions were his but I just couldn't stand it, his dialog is truly terrible. I just read a quote in this comment section, something about "seeing red" and jfc 🙄 and the leaning thing that he did! I think he tried to do what Depp did for Jack Sparrow but it didn't work that well, at least for me. Anyways yeah I watched a little after Glenn's death to see how they handled it and again, i liked some parts but keeping up started to feel like a chore so I stopped. I kept hearing about the deaths mostly and when Andrew Lincoln left I just stopped paying attention
I stopped watching the show half way through season 2 and never watched or cared about it again. Hearing you say season 10 almost made me choke on my food.
the idea of the walkers having glimpses of who they used to be after they turn is really cool imo. it would also work as a counterpart to how people like jim kept seeing flashes of walkers when he was turning, so while youre turning, you see glimpses of what youll become, and after youve turned you see glimpses of once was. this idea also lends some merit to miltons idea that there was still some kind of conscientious within the walkers.
My favorite theory is that TWD universe is an alternate version of Breaking Bad universe in which Walker White and Jesse couldn't eliminate de fly in the episode Fly, the fly contaminated the meth and the meth contaminated the addicted, as we see in Fear The Walking Dead junkies being one of the first victims.
When you stated talking about the Negan Merch Controversy, I thought you were going to say that people were upset by a shirt glamorizing a murderer, and was really caught off guard when you said “he said the phrase was extremely racist” 💀
28:05 His lore made by the actor is interesting. The lore the actor came up with was that the singer, named blue moon or dark moon or something moon, had someone break into his house shortly after the outbreak happened, and Beta had to kill him, but after killing him, he saw the man had his merchandise on, and out of fear that people would view him not as just a murderer, but as his musician past turned murderer, he wore masks over his face to prevent people from seeing his face, which is why (spoilers) when he meets alpha, he wears a ski mask, and then puts a walkers face on his face. It’s also why when gamma (I think it was her) rips half his face mask off, he gets crazy angry, and why he puts half of Alphas face on his face.
When you mentioned that the "helicopter people" could be a enclave type situation it dawned on me what the actual meaning of "A or B" is. Asset or Body An "A" or Asset is someone/thing that they are specifically searching for, from the looks of it it's retrained infected probably for experimentation. While a "B" or Body is somone/thing that isn't what they are looking for but could still be useful to be in their possession... In this case probably fresh manpower that could be easy to manipulate to their cause.
U are correct on your assumption of the difference between an "A or B". They actually covered the specifics in a spinoff series called The Walking Dead: World Beyond, which goes into detail about the CRM. Cool show I recommend checking it out if you are still engaged in current twd storyline
The fact that the writers didn’t think anyone would use a spear for like 6 seasons has always been hilarious to me , the number one go to weapon for zombies but nah these fools had their characters running around with four inch fixed blades like they all happened to receive knife training from Doug Marcaida
Spears are massively overpowered irl, but I'd be a little worried that, against zombies, I'd have a bunch jump on it and I'd get overrun before I can get it unstuck. Now, a staff sword, on the other hand. . . .
@@eyesofthecervino3366 that’s a good point actually. An unthinking wall of flesh would just… Walk through the stick, and you would be stuck if unprepared. Obviously a knife is still dangerous, but it’s cooler and able to be pulled out faster
@@cornfield3034 the show never shed light on how easy it would be to get a knife stuck in a skull. I don’t think there is a perfect weapon for twd but I think I’d take a sword like Michonne
"The whole world is haunted" is like in the original dawn of the dead I believe when one of the characters says that the zombies are because hell is full.
The craziest/coolest supernatural moment in my opinion was in season 3 of Fear the Walking Dead. Daniel Salazar is injured and unable to defeat this walker, so he gets down on his knees and starts praying, and right before the walker is able to get to him, lightning strikes the walker directly in the dome and it dies. Straight up divine intervention.
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I admire the fact that despite being in a lawless world, Shane still managed to pull off a suicide by cop.
Lmao
Shane was the best thing in the show. I'd love to see an alternative time line where Shane lived an hoe he become negan before negan did
That's what happens when you take your job so seriously, not even a zombie apocalypse can curb your quota
@@ScottieD813 until it does
im never gonna see that scene the same way again😂
To add on to the 'Purple shirt walker' phenomenon; if you go back to the first season when Rick and the group cover themselves in Walker guts to escape Atlanta, after the rain washes the guts off and they're running away you can actually see Walkers JUMP a fence even though Walkers can't climb. This has driven me insane for years.
Same! Like what happened to that speed and agility
@@cinemaonwaffle8227 That sorta goes into the decomposition theory. That as time has progressed, the walkers have become less agile due to their muscles decomposing.
@@cinemaonwaffle8227 Walkers start decaying
@@PerfectDark0 that doesn’t work cus even recently turned walkers such as merle and deanna were slow, it’s just a writing error nothing deeper than that
I thought I was watching the Left 4 dead tv show for a minute. I wish that existed over so many TwD seasons
The soul being trapped in a vessel they cant control is terrifying. The idea that you could see the body your trapped in consuming your loved ones, and you cant fight it is haunting...
There’s a book I read in highschool about this concept. Several chapters are written from the perspective of someone’s soul trapped inside a zombie. I don’t remember what it’s called though..
@@OBSDCC7 If you do remember let us know sounds like an interesting read
@@OBSDCC7 is it zom-b by any chance? That sorta fits the description
ikr? i actually convergently had this idea for a few years now, crazy to see it actually come up elsewhere
I think there's a halo novel about Jenkins from the first game and how the Flood only had partial control over him
For "The whole world is haunted" where the souls are kinda trapped in a husk that is a walker, I thought of the belief that Siddiq's mother told him, where killing a walker frees the soul from the monster of a shell, explaining why he sets up walker traps just to kill them. That moment stuck with me ever since I heard it and really puts into religious perspective on what is going on in the show.
Feel like what mob/blood of the dead is.
It kind of reminds me of Metro 2033, and the closest we ever get for an explanation for the ghosts, that being that the nuclear war ended up atomizing Heaven, Hell, and Purgatory, trapping all those who died in the initial blast on earyh, forever reliving their last moments. Honestly, it's just a great concept, since so many pieces of media for an apocalypse ignore the possible religious/spiritual ramifications, unless it's a direct cause.
Late reply, but the webcomic Stand Still Stay Silent covers this at one point
It just sucks that his stupid beliefs got Carl killed. Should have been no reason Carl is running around the woods "freeing" souls. Siddiq should have gotten the same treatment as Lizzie. Just look at the flowers and stop wasting our time going around the woods doing the dumbest shit i have ever heard in an apocalypse.
@@Heisenberg21420you sound thrilling to hang with at a party
AMC: "You can't have Negan say fuck 23 times!"
Also AMC: "You can show Negan literally bashing Glenn's head in so hard that his eye pops out in what might be the most brutal television death ever, next to Game of Thrones."
Genuine question, what got death is more brutal/graphic?
@@josh-sp9dd my vote is the mountain vs the viper death scene, where Martell gets his eyes squished in before his head is bashed
@@josh-sp9dd there are a LOT of brutal deaths in GoT; Oberyn’s skull being crushed, Viserys getting molten gold poured over his head, Pycelle being stabbed to death by a group of kids, Faith Millitant member having his face ripped off - you get the picture.
Though, for me, Glenn’s death is by far worse on the emotional side. Most of the afore mentioned GoT characters (except Oberyn) people weren’t particularly attached to, whereas Glenn’s death was much more impactful on the viewer. The tragedy of his death, knowing that he’ll never meet his son, knowing Maggie is going to have to raise the child on her own, is what really puts it above those GoT deaths for me.
Glenn’s death symbolises the end of innocence, something which viewers have clung onto and seen in him from the start, so this death is far worse (imo)
Or people being ripped apart becoming a pool of blood and skin while they scream
I can’t be the only one who thinks the uncensored version sounds kinda cringy/stupid.
I'm so disappointed that Hershel's Shotgun wasn't on this list as a meme.
He fires 36 rounds from a stock Ithaca 37 before reloading
I have the hardest time watching that episode just for that reason… it’s just painful
Let's not forget 1 minute into the entire series when Rick tells a deputy to take off the safety on Glock.
Gotta love movie/TV shooting lol
Well it’s an Ithaca 37, it must have one more shot left. Duh.
@@SoloFalcon1138 but glocks don't have safeties...
"Tainted meat" is easily one of my favorite scenes. The fact that they were THAT shook from the realization without even thinking about it beforehand is another victory for Bob. 😂
Tainted meat comes up again with the pigs being fed Walkers at the Kingdom. Those pigs were then given to the Saviors. I wish the show had addressed how this affected the Saviors who ate the pigs.
It drives me crazy because like the CDC guy told Rick that everyone was already infected with the virus, and we know that the bite is often not what kills you it's the fever that does so like would eating walker meat even DO anything???? Would they have maybe come down with the fever later?? I think about it constantly
@@meh.3918 I wanna say that eating Walker meat would probably make you incredibly sick considering their meat is rotten while eating human meat wouldn’t do anything because the virus is “inactive” and the bite is basically an activation agent for the virus. Also, if Bob knew everyone was infected and said that to the cannibals, they probably wouldn’t believe him and he needed to be bit to terrify them.
I have no proof of this though so it’s pretty much just a theory
@@meh.3918 well tbh I'd have a big problem with earting people in the first place, especially if they were rotting and decomposed. Of course the idea of infection would be pretty worrying but idk, eating ppl is the bigger problem for me.
I’m really sad you didn’t mention rick’s immunity theory. It’s 100% a fan theory but basically some people believe that Rick is actually immortal/has walker-esk regenerative abilities. Evidence is: how he woke up in the hospital after not being tended to for months. I forgot which episode but after a brutal fistfight with the governor he “goes to sleep” and sleeps for like a day or two but wakes up alive. Not to mention the CDC guy tested his blood and whispered somethihg into his ear. Rick tells the group it was about everyone being infected, but what if there was more? “The world needs Rick grimes” could have a hugely other meaning.
he wasnt unattended to for that long. a web show shows him being taken care of and that care only ending a couple of days before the show starts
@@nonbinarysunset555 it’s still serious, he could’ve really easily gotten his wound infected, skin breakdown, a lot of stuff. Idk it’s just something I think about
except the walkers don’t have regenerative abilities at all
The Walking Dead's virus was weird as you were always infected but didn't experience symptoms until you got bit or died of natural causes
When CDC guy whispers in Rick’s ear he’s telling Rick that everyone is infected and everyone turns
This dude could talk about his door for an hour and I'd be here for it.
me too i love all his vids
No, but like really. I would genuinely want him to upload a video about his door.
“Disturbing door iceberg WARNING: COGNITOHAZARD”
i mean he has talked about stairs for a hour and i watched every second of it
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The purple shirt walker was also a homage to the original dawn and day of the dead where the zombies would often find themselves going back to old routines, with this idea being a main focal point in Day.
i wish they explored this concept more in the show
@@chamba149 For sure. It's a shame we'll never see the complete version of the show that Frank Darabont had originally intended.
This Isn’t true but I heard from somewhere that the actor who played the purple shirt Walker was Charlie Adlard (artist for the comic) but it’s completely bullshit, they don’t even look alike.
Why does no one ever talk about Land, Diary and Survival of the Dead? They’re not as classic as the others but they’ve still got some great ideas.
Day of the Dead rules, Joe Pilato's death haunts my nightmares
I think my favorite answer to the group’s questions is from bon
“How many people you killed?”
“One”
“Why?”
“Because she asked me to”
It implies so much and it’s indirect and it adds to bob character
It's dark and honestly gives him in my eyes, a better look. The man has taken human life, yet it is implied it was to prevent someone else from turning. To me, it makes him more admirable. Maybe that's because personally, I would want anything but to come back as a husk trying to kill others.
I swear, there's always a coma theory for any story that's not non-fiction
The Hero is the Villain, The Coma/Dream Theory and X is Actually Y styled theories are always the laziest theories to me, because they all hinge on “This inconsistency exists so therefore, it can’t be real” or “I just learned what post-modernism is so nothing you say can counter my belief because any intent the author had HAS to be ignored and my interpretation is all that matters.” They’re almost memes to me because while some shows/stories/movies/etc. have done it, the idea that almost EVERY piece of media is secretly developed around one of those ideas borders on delusion.
@@LateNightTableCo I feel like a lot of people just misuse and exaggerate "the hero is the villain" concept for grey characters. Grey main characters are neither the main villains nor heroes. They are human, and they can work really well if written right (like Johnny from Steel Ball Run).
As for the coma theory, yeah they suck especially if the story has a lot of worldbuilding in them. Imagine being a writer and you made a complex world for your characters, but your audience just mocks it up as "it's not real lol they're in a coma!!!". This is especially annoying if the story has a ton of fantasy in it like Pokemon and Adventure Time (I see the theory the most in these). It undermines the writer's efforts, and it's really not a fun theory to hold on to.
@@_silience exactly. I had a great reply on a video about this topic that combined all the cliche theories into one phrase. I hope I can find it
instead of saying "not non-fiction" you could just say "fiction"
@@syra1541 true
Glenn's final line "Maggie, I'll find you" I firmly believe comes from the Korean cultural idea of reincarnation and finding your soulmate in the next life
I believe that too...I believe that Maggie's and Glenn son (Hersel Jr) is Glenn Reincarnated, which is shown in the scene in future seasons
@@distinguishedallureproduct879 I think it was even mentioned in a “talking dead” episode directly after the episode where he died where Maggie’s actor stated how his line was meant to show how Glen and Maggie are like star crossed lovers who’ll always find themselves wherever they are
i took it as gleen thought they were all gonna die so he said that to maggie as like, ill find you afterwards
@@SamisntAm well she will die someday. No immortals there.
@@lucasbiermann257 you’re absolutely right :)
I've literally never seen The Walking Dead but I'd listen to this man talk about anything lol
Exact reason why I’m here never saw the show but it him so I’m automatically interested
Same
The exact words my mind was thinking as I clicked on this video.
Same tbh
Yep
15:55 so its kinda cool too see this 2 years later now having seen the new show they explained it, An A is a leader and wants to help and be the hero, a B is a follower, needs guidance and goes with the rules, A's get dragged away and killed B's get accepted into the new world
Yeah, I think they conduct experiments on A subjects, and she wanted to save Rick so she said he was a B
In regards to Sophia, Rick also says something about "keeping the sun over her left shoulder", and when she comes out of the barn, her left shoulder is where her Walker bite is.
Wow I never noticed that till now 😳
wow thats incredible
“Come on Sophia, ‘Sun’ and ‘Walker’ sound nothing alike!”
I said "sun", sophia. SUN.
@@mrweirdo1548 Ooh GOD DAMNIT SOPHIA! I SAID SUN! PRONOUNCE THAT! S-U-N. Jesus Christ kids these days….
Carol turning super fast made me think it’s a willpower thing. Like how people in hospitals with windows have a better survival rate. Carol was hella depressed and wanted to change. Maybe it varies due to peoples will power
Maybe due to stress and grief and the overall horrible experience of an apocalypse, her immune system was weakened?
That's a pretty great theory! I think personally like @DekuDude888 said that the weakened immune system (because depression) could also be a huge factor
This makes sense to me. She had given up on life at that point and her mental state had been going downhill in the comics for a long time so this probably led to her turning alot faster than anybody else we've seen get bitten since those people still have the will to live
In fear the walking dead, a militia kidnaps people and test how fast they turn after being bit. Surprisingly, they actually figured it out. It has to do with age, weight, height, medical conditions, etc. And they could accurately predict how long it will take.
@@bigpatrice2157 in the comics
Fun Fact: What happens to Bob in Season 5: Terminus eating his "tainted" leg, is exactly what happens to Dale in the Walking Dead comic, obviously they couldn't do that in the show because Dale was killed off by this point, but I guess they really liked the scene lol.
A lot of these kinds of things were (obviously) taken from the comic, just replaced by different characters!
The two girls with Carol and Tyreese were, in the comic, Allen and Donna and their twin boys. One of the boys killed someone (I canmt remember who lol) and then his brother, then Maggie tried to kill herself... it was a cluster. The all-mighty Rick came to the rescue. You can guess what happened to the boy.
Tyreese also came in earlier in the comics, when it was snowing....in Georgia...yeahhh.
I guess you probably already knew this, since you brought up the comics, but hopefully someone who didn’t will see this :D
ALSO: apparently during the development of twdg season 2, they were playing with the idea of the group going into a city during winter and getting picked off one by one, their corpses torn up. The assailant would be an escaped zoo tiger, but everyone found that idea silly and a little stupid. Then, a few months later, the first issue with Ezekiel and Shiva came out. Lol.
i remember this scene was the first thing i saw of the show on tv before actually starting to watch it almost a year later on netflix👀
And it's actually great knowing Dale lived longer in the comics, don't even mind the mini spoiler here. He was one of my faves and i hated seeing him go so fast😪
Dale was such a great character in the comics who went through so many arcs. I hate that he was killed off so early in the show
Yea thats what the show does.
@@canopicgirl1815 Fun fact, the comics take place in KY, so I think it would be plausible for it to snow there.
On the orange backpack, I didn’t take it as a symbol of trust. I thought it as a symbol to represent how times have become darker to the point that equipment is lasting longer than even the most prepared people. I also had the side thought that it may represent things have gotten worse to the point everyone is killing each other, purely for their supplies.
It’s a bit like the boots in All quiet on the western front.
@@Threshermaw23 I see you’re a man of culture.
As heard on a different Iceberg... Whenever you see the Orange backpack someone nearby or in the group dies.
I'm so confused about why AMC thought that Rick finding Lori swallowed whole by a walker was less disturbing than finding her skeleton... If it were my loved one, I'd much rather the the skeleton scenario
Because it isn’t fully visual, for Rick it’s more disturbing but it’s more of an “Oh she was just eaten.” For the viewers.
For me, seeing a skeleton would be more disturbing tbh. I can’t imagine having to pick up the bones of a loved one and having to bury their remains. It would be less personal to drag that walker out and burn it along with all the other ones instead of carrying your loved one’s skeleton out into a field. This comment really got me thinking damn
@@Ash.0000 doesn’t he gut said walker to find Lori’s remains in its stomach? I find that infinitely more disturbing
Like .....was she vored? No way that zombie ate everything
@@SidVacant69 this made me laugh out loud 😂 I always wondered exactly how that walker ate her completely
There's a web only short that shows exactly how Rick survived his coma. There was a nurse who stayed behind in the hospital and took care of him. She died only a few days before Rick wakes up. She's also the person that chained those double doors and wrote "don't open, dead inside."
Where can I find this?
*Dont dead open inside
Do you know where I can find this, or the name of this?
@@squidward9747 th-cam.com/video/WoyW1LKQhnE/w-d-xo.html
@@Morphoidism th-cam.com/video/WoyW1LKQhnE/w-d-xo.html
Glenn claimed to have played portal back in season 2, but portal straight up wouldn’t exist without half-life. However, the walking dead exists in a universe without the concept of zombies prior to the outbreak. But how could this be if half life and half life 2 famously feature the head crab zombies.
space spore
i thought it was a world where night of the living dead and other similar movies weren't made and popularized the concept of zombies in pop culture, not a world where the idea of zombies themselves don't exist.
particularly since zombification and other similar concepts are 1. actually real (parasitic mushrooms, for instance) and 2. common in folklore.
@@princeapoopoo5787 obviously the concept of zombification is real, but I doubt they would appear in video games the way they do without the influence of the movies that popularised
I don’t know maybe because they’re not your standard zombies more like a parasite
So are the the walkers if they are actually caused by “space spores”.
The purple shirt walker thing where some walkers have memories makes them more scary in my opinion. Trying to open the door, using a brick, picking up with teddy- making them more human is so much more disturbing. I actually wish they carried this on throughout the show, could have been cool
(Edit: I assure you, I’m up to date. Happy they brought it back🫶🏽)
I think maybe they don't anymore because of decay. Like season 1 they remember stuff because they just turned but in season 2 they getting a lil hungy and that's the only thing their decayed brains can think of
@@noralex777 yeah that’s probably why but I don’t know why they don’t do it with freshly turned walkers. I suppose now the threats aren’t usually the walkers anymore so they (writers/directors or whoever) sort of pay less attention to them if that makes any sense ahah
@@noralex777 No they just retconned it. Whenever someone recently turns in later seasons they don't show those human memories like in Season 1.
i think that definitely would have happened if AMC never fired frank darabont. everything after that has felt like a bad attempt at following in his footsteps.
It's also a nice reference to the original Dawn of the Dead where you had an entire shopping mall full of zombies going through the motions.
1:03:55
I don't think it's the only time we see a dead baby; I remember in season 2 after Sophia goes missing and the rest of the group stays waiting on the highway, they start to look for food, clothing or medicine in the abandoned cars.
T-Dog is checking one of the cars and in the backseats he sees a baby seat covered in blood (similar to Judith's when they escape the prison)
I remember it very vividly because of T-Dog's reaction; pure horror, he even went pale and stumbled back
Man, T-Dog deserved better
T-dawg was one of my favorites
Yea um so u said we see a dead baby. You never see a dead baby in the whole show. Sure violence and sa is terrible but showing a dead baby corpse would honestly just be to much.
@@Cloud_9_reveiws Nah, a dead baby is a dead baby. It's sad an innocent life who hasn't got a chance to live just die, especially horribly due to the walkers bite but that being said the baby didn't really lose much since the baby never got anything or experienced life. The baby wasn't even aware of life and death. It doesn't mean it should die but comparing it's death to people who have lived and suffered does not set right for me.
To me the people who lived and suffered have gone through worse than a dead baby, so violence and SA is much brutal and horrifying.
@@Cloud_9_reveiws”yeah, um, actually” 🤓 👆
@@Cloud_9_reveiwsi definitely remember seeing a dead behby when the episode aired live. I believe it was when the preist first came around, gabriel was his name i believe. I vividly remember going ahhhhhh that was wrong
I always loved Siddiq's character because of your last point. He grew up in an Islamic household and believed that people's souls were still trapped in the walkers, so he tried to kill every walker he saw in order to free them.
He Fr died tho which sucks.
The idea came from Arabic folklore before Islam (Zoroastrianism most likely) in the idea of an reanimated human corpse haunted by evil spirit - Ghoul.
Yeah.
Ghouls originate in Middle East.
@@runimcomingforyou.4505 ...I'm not going to state the obvious. Take a WILD GUESS and think were Islam originates from.
@@runimcomingforyou.4505 relax, friend. I will support your argument. In Islam, the soul is believed to be released from the body when someone dies. There's no such thing as being trapped inside the body. And about ghouls, ghosts, and other paranormal activities? It could be because of devils/demons (shayatin), because they can interact with our plane of existence and change shape into something else. Of course, if they are in our side of the world, we can interact (and even kill them).
In Islam, when you die, your soul can't interact with this physical world and is moved onto a different realm, called Barzakh (where souls reside until the Day of Judgment).
@@marissamoore6378 Fr ruined carls death
The Negan Batting scene was in fact filmed with everyone on set. Even Negan got his turn after hours of actually hitting the whole cast with a foam rubber stunt bat. There's also another bonus scene of Negan AND Rick bashing Greg Nicitero. There's interviews with JDM where he's saying he felt like an absolute asshole, hitting the cast and joking about improv style.
Do you have a video or link to the extra scenes?
Link
link or gay
Damn, remember when the arc with Daryl and Beth once they had gotten separated from the group and ended up at that country club, and they had to whack all those zombies with the golf clubs they found? Those actors were like, they’re rubber but they still hurt. I was like 😩 woooow, Norman Reedus was really swinging hard too!
Yea, apparently up until the reveal of who gets killed during the episode, no one except for those in charge of the production even knew who was really going to die in that episode (everyone was filmed a "death scene" to prevent leaking/spoilers ahead of time. I'm sure it costed a pretty penny, but definitely was something else.
I could never forget the Vatos gang. Me and my mom loved them. I spend a bit of my childhood in San Antonio and lived in a mostly ethnically Mexican community, and I got to learn a lot about Hispanic culture and stuff. When I was revealed that the Vatos were protecting the old people left behind, I loved that. It made perfect sense. If there’s anything my friends and neighbors from San Antonio taught me, it’s that you don’t give up on your community and you band together when things are tough and help eachother out. I dunno, I really liked them a lot. I headcannon it that theyre still doing it aight
Hector
The deleted scene that was supposed to be the opener for Season Two kind of contradicts your hopefulness lol
@@IAmTheOriginalJello I’m well aware. Like I said, head cannon.
@@stuglife5514 not gonna lie I wrote that before that part of the video lol
@@stuglife5514 I want to believe that too, but even if the deleted scene isn't canon, there's still another hostile group in Atlanta, the Grady Memorial cops.
Those first two seasons are just beautiful, that's the only word I can use to describe them. Everything about it (even the cheesy writing and low budget) was just perfect to me. The showrunners had to work with what they had, and they did amazing work because of it. I can only imagine how great the show could've been if they never fired Darabont. I almost feel like I was robbed of a perfect zombie show because of AMC lmao
*first 3 ☺️
Season 1 sure but 2? That's when Darabont got booted, that's why it's so boring and way less interesting that the previous season.
@@rubenski_415 Nah, first two.
@@kellevichy Nah, nah, first three.
Season 2 was horrible when initially released. The slower pace made the wait every week, and the goddamn mid season finale feel like it took so long.
If you binge it, it’s almost as amazing as season 1. Which tbh is extremely impressive considering how dirty they did Darabont
There's one thing I'd like to add to the 'Rick is the Villain' theory. If you look at Rick's character progression, he slightly adopts the previous villains philosophy. Shane led the group with an iron fist. After Rick killed Shane they took over the group in a dictatorship. There are even parallels between Rick's fight with Tyrese and Shane's fight with Ed. You can see aspects like this with the governor as well. Becoming more neutral with a us vs. them mentality. All the way up until Negan. The end of his story arc made Rick start taking the more heroic path implementing justice over murder. This makes Negan's group, Rick's saviors
Ricks group killed like 30 saviors first and it wasn't really warranted on account the saviors only wanted a tribute lol Rick is deadly.
@@grizlyspectr5695 Exactly. Rick started the whole damn thing.
@@grizlyspectr5695 Daryl told Rick and the others though that they were held at gunpoint by The Saviors, as well as Jesus telling them about how The Saviors killed a 16 year old kid in their community to make them fall in line.
@@dimitrescu182 yeah thats true but at the same time it sort of a way to survive by just killing one person and getting tribute to Negan but Rick killed 30 of em right off the bat which I sort of agree with in a sense of Negan has more than enough supplies and continued to dictate these groups instead of trying to unite them. I Agree with Negan sort of in a sense if your group was desperate and didn't have a Daryl kind of guy in the group who can just go into the woods and come back with animals to feed the group, I would've agreed with Negan at the beginning of the apocalypse at least, I heard starvation can change people a little for a while.
In my opinion there are no good and bad guys in the show. Everyone is both
FINALLY the Vatos Gang!!!! i see no one talking about them and that upsets me because of how well written they are for the short time they had. For me, when it was revealed that these dudes were just dudes protecting a nursing home, it was one of the most human moments in the show for me.
I fucking love the Vatos gang.
There's a deleted scene where they go back after the CDC to find everyone dead most likely done by The Governor (was in the comics)
@@bryanlenihan5012 yup
I wish they had their own spin off though.
@@nicolereadstarot a whole Show about a gang and some old prople?
Maybe an episode for them but not a Show 😭
@@bryanlenihan5012 The Vatos weren’t in the comics
fun fact: there's a walking dead tour in a town in senoia, georgia that takes place where woodbury was (also got to see the outer walls of alexandria, the train tracks they film on/by) and the tour guide told us that if you look closely in the scenes before andrea dies, she has bright pink toenail polish on. the writers/directors said she was going to be killed off so she went and got a pedicure, but (per her contract) she had to film her death scene so they brought her back and they left in her bright pink pedi.
Lmao
it's interesting, cause in the context of the show, I thought it was showing how Woodbury is cushy and nice and she had time to sit around and paint her nails. I didn't know it was just a 'mistake' from the actress lmao
They also shot for scenes in the area around Alexandria and hilltop in no in a town near chapel hill no they shot near snow camp and used some of the roads out back and they had some of it shot near our house. Lennie James riding the horse down the road to find Carole after she got shot was done in nc.
I mean, I better look good before a zombie takes a chunk outta me too!
Regarding the last entry, I’ve always liked the uniquely theological/spiritual undertones that zombie stories have had. It’s something I think is more terrifying than just about anything, I remember a Free-To-Play zombie game I played a long while ago called No More Room In Hell, and it was a catchy name but it always stuck with me. And it wasn’t until I thought about it that it really hit me, now the idea of there being no more room in hell and hell taking over earth is one of my favorite horror concepts ever.
For the record, 'No More Room in Hell' takes its name from the original Dawn of the Dead. If I recall, the opening of the film is a televangelist speaking on TV, and his speech ends with 'When there is no more room in Hell, the dead will walk the Earth."
@@blarghinatelazer9394You’re thinking of the 2004 film
With the “children of Terminus” theory, Gareth mentions that when faced with starvation, bears will turn to eating their young to survive
It's also straight-up mentioned in the comics with the group Terminus was based off of that their first cannibalistic acts were eating the children in their group. The Bear eating their young line was directly taken from them.
“Walker Decomp…”
Essentially means that if they had travelled South out of GA, everything would’ve been fine for them. Spend a few weeks in a swamp, and ALL the FL walkers would be piles of mush. Heat and humidity don’t preserve flesh all that well.
and even if that weren't the case, any remaining walkers would be eaten alive by insects and crocodiles/alligators.
@@SOLARITY333 thats a really good point actually!
@@SOLARITY333 I like the idea of a zombie Walking through a swamp and a alligator eats it
Thats why they keep going north in the show, they want it to go on longer and zombies further north are better preserved
@@rafaelpascoaliczerniej297 but eventually the same will happen in the north
I think the Carol turning in seconds thing goes along with my theory that turning rate is much quicker on weak willed people. I thought A and B were describing strong willed leader types vs the opposite.
That actually makes a lot of sense.
Of course, Rick could be an A but Jadis lied and called him a B. Maybe it's a bad thing to be an A, since you almost always seem to have to be bit. You may not have seen the show up until the Trasholes, but there's a reason why we trust NOTHING coming out of Jadis' mouth.
@@mrbaitandwatch2259 yeah I'm gonna catch up to everything on the next few months. Kind of excited to see what's up
@@peste2574 and yeah, I thought so. First had the thought when she switched father Gabriel's designation after he showed a hell of a lot of backbone/ guts
fear the walking dead on season 3 has a thing where some wannabe soldiers group different types of people and let some get bit and others not be bitten maybe you are right
Fun fact about the whole Purple Walker and how walkers did some strange things early session.
Originally, the first director wanted to have more smart walkers and even "sub-types" of walkers. But as new directors got on, they slowly canned the idea.
Although they did seem to bring this back slightly with things like the "Runner" from World Beyond and how near the end of the main series, they climbed into the Commonwealth.
Variants aren’t the same as S1 Walkers and it’s basically said that the region and the outbreak being relatively fresh is what caused S1 walkers. Obviously it’s cause of the change in show runners but I think that’s what they say to make it more cohesive.
regarding beta being famous, i always figured negan going "holy shit do you know who that was" when beta is finally killed was not in reference to beta being who he was in the whisperers but because his mask was removed, negan recognized who he actually was; this celebrity in their universe.
Yeah I'm pretty sure that was the intended implication. Pretty much the entire group already knew of Beta's role in the herd and it would't be hard to recognize him.
Also, not too long before that episode, we see Beta take what's left of Alpha on a date... and put on his own music. In the same episode, he executes a whisperer because he recognized his face.
I'd imagine him getting pissed because his favorite musician was killed
@@PotatoBullets115 "Fuck I shot Elton John"
@@insertsomethingfuni2617 lmaoooo
@@insertsomethingfuni2617 "Holy shit, i just killed James Hetfield (plot twist: Lars still alive)"
I feel like it would be really cool to have a whole season of twd that just focused on different parts of the world or country on the first few days of the apocalypse. Just competent random people, most of them dying by the end of the episode, just so we can see what the start was like for many people.
You're litteraly describing the spin off that comes out today called "Tales of The Walking Dead"
That reminds me if maybe you’re interested in the walking dead video game series they have a dlc prequel kinda game called 400 days I believe and it is exactly what you described, it shows multiple people in the first 400 days of the apocalypse. If you are interested I won’t spoil what happens but it’s a pretty interesting and you might find exactly what you’re looking for in it :)
I always wanted the show to have a sister series from The Governors perspective where his group wins and they end up going through all the shit that Rick's group goes through.
fear the walking dead shows the first few months, they go from california to mexicali :) up to season 3 its so good but then we have a time jump in season 4
@@lapizzanapoletana3856 shes completely describing it, besides the fact that its not what the tales of the walking dead is
hearing more about the changes in the writer's room really makes me want a what if series of twd, like same actors and everything, also played both serious and as comedy
Bro that’s be awesome
“What If… the baby died the first time” better be the first episode
So glad it wasnt a comedy
With that world, & actors who do great at being rugged and serious..Itd be, idk, kinda corny imo lol
@@Tw0Dots the show itself is great. i would just enjoy a less serious what if series for it that was dumb AND corny it would make my year
L opinion
29:47 A VERY similar metaphor is used in Titanic before Jack dies. Rose says "I'll never let go" before letting go of Jack's dying body but she actually means letting go of the MEMORIES.
The scene where they're listening to Beta's record at the hilltop goes even deeper; the song Beta is singing is "The Turtle and the Monkey" by Emily Kinney, who played Beth on the show
When Beta dies doesn’t Negan say something like “Did you know who that asshole was.” in a kind of shocked way.
@@mywoodis6ft140 true
i always liked how the walking dead kind of had that more old school, grainy look from the 16mm camera they used. Added a lot of atmosphere to it.
yea very good choice it makes the show somewhat nostalgic (for me atleast )
@@x_vr_uzi7920 yeah they never changed the cameras (until recently anyways) and just made me feel like “im definitely watching twd” like the tone felt the same for every season because of the quality lol watching the recent episodes always throws me because we had like 10 seasons of 16mm cam
I miss the old slow burn show from Season 1. It was a slow burn but it went from one thing to another in a well paced manner.
They didn't spend entire episodes talking in one spot. There was always danger lurking and they were always moving and surviving.
I feel they took too much time trying to get every character some screen time so they do a lot of talking with each scene.
Oh I thought that was just because the show was from the early 2000s, but that was intentional?
Another thing to add to the last theory is that Lizzie says “she can hear them talking and that they want to be her friend, they want those who are alive to join them” which is terrifying that a child is that mentally unstable to think like that. But maybe that proves that theory and she really could talk to the dead and listened to what they wanted. Then she died…
I think it's much more harrowing because it talks about the effects of the apocalypse on children and how even in the off chance adults manage to settle into some kind of peace their children will be much worse off mentally.
Nope just a traumatized person. Pretty simple.
Is it confirmed the whisperers originated in Washington?
I’m glad carol bopped her. The most obnoxious character ever. Next to Andrea
@@deadmanwalking915 loved Andrea in the comics
The green Hyundai was the funniest thing, like I’m certain Hyundai never intended for it to basically turn into an immunity idol for characters and it changed a bunch of the connotations people would take away from the car - not necessarily for the worse, but just definitely different.
“You know what it is” is Morgan reliving the moment where he trusted Duane to lay his mother to rest. Duane wanted to believe that there was still a part of his mother left. He “was supposed to” put her down because he’s been told she’s nothing but a walker now. “You know what IT is.” It’s just a walker. But Duane froze, pleaded to his mum and got bit, leading to Morgan having to put them both down.
I love this idea.
Yes! And wasn’t there a scene where Morgan finally went back to the house and Duane was chained in the attic but he forgot doing that? Just before the house burnt down?
@@elizabethbishop8352yes this was in Fear the walking dead. It goes way more in depth about Morgan’s story. His “seeing red” and his guilt and anger leads back to his “bad side” of leaving Duane there and never putting him to rest
Watching this felt like hanging out with a friend talking about the show, and I love it.
I feel like all of wendigoon's videos just feel like you and a friend chatting about a topic.
100% agree with you! Like a chat after binging TWD
Watching Rick hallucinate after Lori’s death was scarier than any walker
Yeah especially since she was really in the stomach of a walker which was also horrible to think about.
it’s so unhealthy how much i love this show i watched 8 episodes in one day,
omg i watch it so much that i can remember lines My partner hates the sound of the Walkers 😂Growl
That’s not that much bro
light work
Play the games. I’m fairly critical of media, and the final season of the games is a masterpiece.
Is that an "ironic" joke I'm not getting? 8 is not many at all dude
Funny thing about the “space spore”. When the creator of Walking Dead was pitching the comic to the publisher, he had to pretend that the series was actually about aliens. This is because the publishers and editors where uninterested in zombies and he could not sell them the idea. So he lied about it actually being a story about aliens that happened to include zombies. In fact, he went as far as saying that in the beginning, there would be hidden references to a alien invasion. Of course, there are no such references or any aliens at all in Walking Dead, but that got the show pitched.
Sounds like I am Hero. That one had aliens but that went nowhere.
They sold some copies of issue 50 that had a fake ending to that issue with aliens. They later continued that story in skybound X as a non-canon story. It’s called Rick Grimes 2000, if you’re interested.
@@epicsnail4614 oh yeah that's a wacky comic. Negan had "the Two Bats" or something
The theory on Rick being the lonely walker fits so much with the shows ending. Literally he’s been wandering for years on his own.
1:11:15 After finishing the show and now rewatching up to the S2 finale, the shot of the walkers in Herschel’s barn burning in a fiery inferno made me think a similar thing.That the characters of TWD are in hell.
There’s a sort of uncanniness to TWD in early seasons. The slightly grainy camerawork, the walkers who almost don’t look real in some scenes. It seems like a Matrix-like reality, like I expect the camera to pull back in some scenes and show a television screen.
Added to that is the fact that the protagonists constantly encounter the same things over and over: either other groups they must contend with, or walkers, both of whom kill the protags loved ones again and again. Its a never ending purgatory.
The S2 finale and the S11 finale (spoilers) where we get a shot of the earth opening up and walkers falling in a fiery explosion reinforce this idea for me that the characters are just playthings being tormented by a higher being, or in hell.
Maybe I’m subconsciously taking from the Call of Duty Zombies mode, which has many of the same characteristics as TWD
@@faustsiftar7683 The Earth opened up because they blew up the sewers of Commonwealth.
They constantly contend with groups over and over again because people kind of suck and that's one message the show tries to get across.
Cool idea though.
To be honest imagine what the show could have been if HBO picked it up because the walking Dead comics are extremely graphic
I was thinking the same
Apparently, they first pitched the show to HBO, but the channel turned the show down for being "too violent".
@@mrbaitandwatch2259 well we know that's bs
@@mrbaitandwatch2259 that's shocking considering game of thrones premiered on that Network a year later
It would’ve been dope as all hell, and that’s saying something considering the _major_ popularity this show had garnered in its first handful and a bit of seasons.
the pace he’s growing at is wild!! thanks for your hard work on these iceberg
@@xone7790 bro you're desperate
@@xone7790 down down bad
@@xone7790 She is literally a 3/10 and u simping for her💀
@@xone7790 Christ dude, come on. Don't creep on girls in TH-cam comment sections.
@@leviaskins6630 what y’all talking about?
The amount of characters who were killed or removed not for story reasons but instead so the studio could get rid of their actors is tragic. Dale, Andrea and Carl's deaths all felt forced. Morgan and Dwight got squeezed out of the main show.
They really did Chandler Riggs dirty. He handled it much more diplomatically than I (probably) would have.
moving morgan and dwight to ftwd is one of the biggest opportunities missed in twd
@@brandymcnamee7880frrrr omg
Nobody talks about this but Beth’s death felt forced to me as well.
Ik Carl wasnt even supposed to die and I felt bitter after they killed of Noah, Glenn, and Beth.
6:00 fun fact. When he pitched the comic to Todd McFarlane he made it out to seem like an alien invasion story because he didn't think Todd would greenlight a zombie comic. Todd eventually found out but it was so popular it didn't matter.
You were wrong about 1 thing. The "opening title decay" theory 14:16 This is actually to symbolize the decay in the quality of the writing and plotline over the course of the series.
Just imagine Frank telling Kirkman "hey dude, wouldn't it be cool if the opening title decayed overtime after s3 lmao" while he tugged Kirkmans' arm with an evil grin on his face
bro you are menis but in a good way XD
Lol
They didn’t need to do dale so dirty. He was legitimately my favorite character.
Edit: also the vatos gang is my favorite subplot. I love the fact that they were just janitors taking care of forgotten people.
Yeah saddest death pre season 5. Or whenever the black dude that was with carol and the kids died, i cant remember, tyrik or something. Havent seen the show im years, am rewatching it, on season 4 rn and its been a couple months, had to take a break after the governor. Least favourite villain.
@@bradpittstoilet746 t dog? I’m probably going to watch it again this winter. I stopped at like season 5 the first time.
@@googaboogaloo yeah t dog sorry for the spoi)er
@@bradpittstoilet746 it’s ok. I watched when it first came out. I know what happens up to season five ish
@@bradpittstoilet746 tyreese!
spoilers
t dogg dies at the prison saving carol tyreese dies after getting bit in the arm at noah’s house
The pharmacy sink reminds me a lot of the water treatment plant from Last of Us. A classroom with one adult skeleton and many more much smaller bodies covered with sheets. A note reads along the lines of, "they're right outside. I'm with the kids. If rescue doesn't arrive soon, I promise they didn't suffer."
Did the teacher kill the kids? I haven’t played Last of us
The Last of Us has a lot of things like this, cool environmental storytelling. I really hope they keep some of it on the TV adaptation HBO is doing.
@@mt6897 What???! They're doing a tv show about The Last of Us?
@@svenrio8521 Yes! HBO is doing it. The show is still in production so no trailers or teasers yet but Pedro Pascal (Game of Thrones, Narcos, The Mandelorian, etc) is playing Joel and Bella Ramsey is playing Ellie, the people behind the games are also very involved with the adaptation apparently, Neil Druckman even said he directed some of it.
@@mt6897 oof, Neil cuckman is a bad sign
Wish you touched on the scene from Season 2 where Herschel is trying to stop the farm from being overrun with an infinite ammo shotgun. During the scene where he's firing randomly into the field at approaching walkers, he goes through almost 4 dozen shells without reloading once.
Some Redditor already did a frame by frame of that and it in fact, DOES show him reloading
There are multiple cuts, it’s easy to just assume he reloading off screen lol
Getting calls from the recently deceased is a real life phenomenon apparently. I specifically remember a story about a man getting killed in a train crash, but his family claimed that he called them and either said a few words or nothing at all before hanging up
R.I.P ✝️.
I’ve also seen a few different posts on this as well. One was a grandparent who died of cancer calling his family. It was a Reddit post with a bunch of similar experiences. How truthful they are is always up for interpretation though
Fuck I remember that, it’s so scary and there are more cases like this one
A girl at my school had a sister but it was before she was born and her sister died at 3 suspiciously the door to the house was open everybody else was asleep in the living room and she was in another room just dead so they assumed that she was murdered but they couldn't figure out who it was when the girl at my school turned 9 there was a voice message left on her house phone and it had the same exact voice as her sister
I remember when my dog died and a few minutes later I got a phone call. It was just barking on the other end for like 5 minutes
In relation to the walker decomp point, the 'walker virus' cannot truly die out until all humans die, as they're all already infected. Even if all actual walkers on the planet were eradicated, it would only take one person to die unattended to kick things off again. Grim.
But if everyone get's the fact that if you die, you become a walker, wouldn't it make people more conscious about it? Like, I'm about to die, so I'll either shot myself on the head, or I'll bind myself somewhere so I at least won't harm anyone.
@@Mateus_Pereira_Silva yeah but like someone could have a sudden heart attack while out on their own, it'd be impossible to rule out 100%
I think it says more about my pessimism than anything else :D
@@HCass87 you got a point there.
@@Mateus_Pereira_Silva Humans have a tendency to get very complacent, and will end up forgetting about the dangers of certain things. Even in TWD, people know that once you die you will come back as a walker, but several times, the group have witnessed people die to walkers, and the people came back as walkers before the group shot/stabbed them in the head. It has happened to a group of people with a leader that was told first hand from a scientist that everybody is infected, and they still wouldn't always shoot or stab the person in the head when they died.
@@Mateus_Pereira_Silva that's kinda a thing in World Beyond, where the houses and other areas seems to have gates to stop people who turn unattended
I liked the idea of walkers keeping parts of their memories, but it makes sense that as time progressess, these would diminsh as the body and brain itself deteoriate over time. It would be more interesting to make spinoff placed to the time right after breakout, where we could get deeper look into this.
im surprised not many people in this comment section know about fear, while fear the walking dead have the dumb zombies that are after season 1 in the original show, but fear for the first season and maybe half of season 2 does show what happens to california during the outbreak and right after, they end up moving to mexico than a time jump in season 4 where theyre in texas.
@@bennykat___ we know about fear the walking dead - it's pure shit.
It the letter hacks section of the comics, Mr Kirkman responds to a letter asking about walker intelligence. Kirkman says that they have no memories of their past life.
The walker with a purple shirt is William afton.
somewhat unrelated, but a manga called "I Am a Hero" had the concept of zombies viewing other zombies as what they were before they were infected (i.e. they saw themselves as humans) but the ones who are *the* Survivors saw them as zombies and not humans
Shit, I thought I had an original idea
It's a pretty good manga
Amazing manga! The zombies were creepy to me
@@unslaadkrosis9435 I mean I Am Legend did the same thing so not really
@@IHateMilkbruh i never got that from the movie but i was very young when i watched it
I've always wondered about the cow in season 2. We are shown a cow being eaten by zombies. Later on, we are shown the cow half eaten, yet it is still moving. Some people claim it was simply in pain dying slowly, but there's no reason to show that. I feel the intent was to suggest that the virus had possibly migrated to other species. This never came to be, so thoughts?
i don't remember any zombified animals in this franchise if anyone knows a scene from the series or the comics let me know pls :D
Probably a idea that they had but chose not to go with.
No reason to show it? Is suffering not a theme in that show? Suffering and inevitable death with no choice but to continue and no ability to save yourself? People are more shocked with violence against animals so maybe it was intended to impact you, like it seems it did.
@@johns1625
twd season 1 and 2: Suffering and inevitable death with no choice but to c...
twd after season 1 and 2: CORL GET THE MOTHA FUCKIN GUNS THERE IS SOME BAD GUYS IN OUR DOOR (endless gun shots but they don't even that much of ammo lol) (some random important character dies for nothing) (bad guy dies) ok boys we are saf- (again some random villian appears again)
Dead Sea is a book that goes into this. Pretty brutal but an interesting topic I think!!
"The World is Haunted" actually fits the show really well
The ghosts of the dead are the reason why people fall over from nothing at all, getting tripped by bitter ghosts
So Metro?
Omg
did you just trip me? what are you twelve!?
@@Quacktivate and then the ghost is actually a 12 year old
Lol yeah
I always thought A and B was meant to be leaders or followers. Negan was a clear leader. Rick was too until he was ready to give it up and let Maggie take over making him a B. Gabriel was always a follower until he maned up and told her no, essentially showing power/authority over her making her see him as an A.
this is also what i thought, plus ive seen a theory that when rick was originally held by Jadis, he was in a container marked A, but when they became friends, and she wanted to get him genuine help, she lied to the helicopter people and told them he was a B
A are tops. B are bottoms.
Maybe A and B stand for Alpha and beta? Cringe ik but it makes sense.
@@FallingUpwards-l8y could mean type A personality. Aggressive, domineering and focused and B in their code could mean other people who aren’t as “intense”
This is exactly the simplest explanation and they knew the simple minded masses would think something along these lines and knew it would confuse them.
I promise you this; A’s are people who are unwilling to join the CRM but are strong survivors. So they’re used for forced testing (hence why Jadis was going to have Negan bitten. They’re testing the Walker virus. B’s are people who ARE willing to join the CRM. B’s may still be tested but it would be a voluntary thing such as blood work.
This is why Jadis lies about Rick being a B. The CRM probably won’t waste too many resources for an A. After all, any living being could be an A to them plus the trouble of taking in a random person who fights back probably isn’t worth it. But if they think he’s a willing survivor, then they’d be more likely to come pick her and him up.
26:03 I think the turning rate is the amount of strength and willpower someone had during their time of death. Carol essentially gave up and that’s why she turned fast
Still waiting for the final season to come to Netflix and I read this. Shiiiiiiiiiiiet...
@@darkySp they’re talking about the comics
@@darkySp what season has been released recently?
When and what season is coming?
@@RandoManFPV Season 10, it's been out for a long time.
Streaming services are normally behind the release schedule for the original airing, but from what I've seen Season 11 (final season and already out in full) will come to Netflix around November. That's just a speculation, though.
maybe, but we are also shown in fear by troys “studies” their turning rate can depend on their weight, height, etc
The pharmacy sink scene is… god. Genuinely a SCARY scene, the implication is fucking gut wrenching it’s morbid and depressing as hell and was a weird but kind of nice change of pace from the normal violence and gore (not that that stuff in twd is bad by any means)
Yeah…I’ve seen some fucked up shit in my day and that scene caught me off guard
Try seeing that as a father who lost a kid.
From experience, it's a mind fuck, sans reach around.
Lost mine, and his or her mother, unborn, 30 years ago. Lost my adopted, unofficial, dsughter in 2018.
Been with my wife, and raised her daughter for 21 years, and they are my world. I'd die, or kill for them. That doesn't mean that I don't miss my girl, and that I wouldn't give any, and everything, just to hold my son or daughter.
In the 11 seasons, that was the only scene to got to me. Because of where it takes your mind in that moment.
@@kevinfox500 im so sorry for your loss dude
@@DaniBee2900 thanks.
What Andrea said regarding loss, is spot on.
@@kevinfox500 🤝😢🍻
One of my favorite things in the walking dead is when Rick is battling the savior's and he sees the dude that was a part of his group with his family before they went to Hershel's in season one and the man is now a part of the Savior's, he also has lost his family, his story is very similar to Rick except Rick still had Carl at that point, they both suffered a lot, both started in the same place, both were good men but the other guy ended up with the Saviors. I think that it shows what u were talking about, how easily the Saviors could have been our heroes and Rick could have been the villian if the perspectives were changed. It also shows how far Rick has made it and how much he has changed I think
Rip Morales
Rick was broke and turned into a sociopath
I think of Rick wanted off the show they should of let him at that point and Negan take over the lead. I like him better as a character anyways.
The a and b theory after seeing the ones who live is funny. Also the purple shirt walker kinda also gets explained a bit because the walkers evolve a bit, ie the ones climbing on the castle towards the end or im pretty sure a walker uses a door knob.
The first season zombies having wild characteristics and actions I always chocked up to “they’re fresh zombies” so maybe they still had some humanity. Which is also kinda why fresh reanimated zombies in the later seasons kinda jump up and jog towards people faster than others (for example the zombie that stands up and kills Mara was moving fairly quicker than the other zombies have been)
Intelligent, variant zombies have been reintroduced. A walker that opened a door via doorknob, climbed up a wall, and picked up a rock to use as a weapon. He definitely wasn't freshly dead with lingering humanity, so why? A theory I heard, is that the smarter, more cautious walkers (variants), while extremely rare, would stay back and be much more careful. Leading to them staying alove longer than regular walkers. So eventually, the mindless walkers will start to thin out, but the variants will live on, making it appear as if there are more of them than what was initially perceived.
I can't wait until someome has to face a small horde of intelligent zombies.
@@ntdoowns I mean the short answer is they retconned that shit and realized it was a mistake haha. But I agree I wanna see more of that. An actual challenge for the characters because now zombies aren’t just walking and biting but actually fighting with them.
This is actually talked about in the comics, too. When Dale is on his deathbed he warns Andrea that if she doesn't act super quickly or loses her nerve he could bite her the minute he turns because he's such a fresh zombie his motor skills and reflexes are pretty much that of a non-dead human.
Something I found out was that in Romero's movies, intelligent zombies were a thing like 3 or 4 zombies learned how to drive vehicles, open doors, hell even use automatic weapons. Like zombies retained some form of intelligence in his movies and I loved it.
The "welcome to the dogtrot" portion reminds me of going through buildings and being able to paint of picture of what happened when the bombs fell in fallout
Frank Darabont's ideas for 2 season were so interesting and if he were never fired I think the walking dead would be considered 1 of the greatest show ever
yes, it upsets me what happened to TWD, it would have been considered one of the greatest up there with breaking bad and sopranos
Where can I read the script?
tbh while darabont had some great ideas i dont think twd wouldve become as big as it once was if he was directing it
@@aaaaaa-gt6ib would have been bigger.. his departure was not the only thing that ruined the show though
@@DopelyTV Haha those are literally the two greatest shows ever
I still don’t believe that the world would ever recover from the walkers. The show states that everyone is already infected, so even if all the walkers died, the surviving humans would eventually turn. However, it would be a good idea if newer generations would slowly built an immunity to the virus. In which case, there would be a chance for humanities survival.
You just create a cologne that smells like walkers. I don’t know if I would want it to end though.
The walkers committing actions from their previous life wouldn’t necessarily mean the person is a “passenger while this space spore controls their body” since memory is a physical thing in your organic body. The zombies could just be having flashes of their past life because a few electrical signals make it past the brain stem and up through the rest of their brain.
Though I like your interpretation better.
Honestly, I think yours is a lot cooler.
Just wanted to say that the whole thing with the "space spores" from a meteor in Night of the Living Dead, which Kirkman referenced in that tweet, is itself a biblical reference to Wormwood, either an angel, star or both that according to the Book of Revelation will fall to the earth at the apocalypse and poison the waters.
So that actually goes quite well with what Herschel said about the gates of heaven being locked and those themes of purgatory for both Walkers and survivors.
Jeffrey Dean Morgan said himself they shot a scene of everyone dying from the baseball bat.
He said his arms got so tired they had to bring in a stunt guy to it. But the stunt guy ended up accidentally hurting someone.
Oh and if I remember correctly, they all got hit on the head many times, with a polysterene bat or a prop bat, something to that effect.
yeah I remember someone saying they did that in case the footage leaked
hearing about “the lone walker” theory makes me grateful about “The Ones Who Live,” Rick only wanted to protect his family, so it makes sense to have an ending where he has one. the show also echoes Glen’s “i will find you” to Maggie, since that’s exactly what Michonne did
Imagine if Frank wasn’t fired after Season 1. The series would have been incredible
I always think about that. To be fair, this vid has made me appreciate some moments of show more, but Frank would have probably kept me watching the show past season 7
@@bigbabado8296 season 9 10 and 11 is incredible
@@simmosimms2841 I keep hearing that. But they damaged so much that I'm not going back.
@@simmosimms2841 11 is just... bad so far
It’s not just that, that ruined it. The beginning had loads of society left and wasn’t in the countryside, nowadays it’s just rural stuff and rural settings because they can’t afford recording in cities. It sucks.
Even though this video is focused to the main show, another little thing that plays into the supernatural hallucinations/remnants of people inside walkers idea is something out of Fear the Walking Dead. One of the characters, Nick, figures out the walker-guts trick pretty early on in the apocalypse and spends an extended amount of time walking among the dead in a desert. After a while he starts looking at them and instead of seeing rotting walkers, he sees clean, normal humans walking alongside him and looking directly at him. That happened in one of the earlier seasons so it's been a while since I've seen it but I'm pretty sure he hears them whispering to him as well.
OHHHHH THAT'S FUCKING CREEPY!! I love it. I wish I could watch FTWD again, but I don't have cable and as far as I know, it's not on Netflix.
@@erinw.9256 It’s on Hulu
@@erinw.9256 don't bother past season 3, please, literally, pretend it ends at season 3
@@robocu4 season 6A was pretty good in Fear honestly but after that I say skip if you want
Seriously! I loved Fear so much in the first 2 seasons. I personally don't like the supernatural implications, instead I treat them as simply hallucinations of people absolutely going nuts due to what they've seen. Rick, Morgan, Nick, Daniel, Alpha, Beta, Carol... I personally think it's a whole lot scarier when you think about the mental health of these characters. All very capable people, just imagine how better things would've been for themselves and everyone around if they weren't all severely traumatized.
Regarding the purple shirt walker and the other similar oddities, I'd bet that relatively new walkers haven't completely entered that cattle phase and retain some bits and pieces of memory / habit.
My theory is that at first the virus/infection/whatever makes you turn was more refined, so basically the first waves of infected were smarter and retained some muscle memory and gimics, but as time went on the infection lost its potency/ "quality".
"Smart" walker bites > person turns into a smart walker wich bites > person turns into a less smart walker wich bites > repeat until the walkers are just regular brainded creatures following sound and movement.
Well There was a Case of a man Who was shot in his bed, destroying the part of the brain responsible for Advanced and Complex thinking...and then they found is blood on his dishwasher and counter...the man was going thru things he did in the day like a Robot. so that's how i think the Walkers were doing that. the purple shirt Went on the bus a lot so that was autopilot, opening a door, picking up your toy, just random things they did.
@@maybach5787 that sounds scary af. We really are machines
@@Frankapologist Only without that specific part of our brain. That part of our brain is what sets us apart.
no. They have already clearly explained this as going a different way with the show after the first season. common knowledge. no need for bogus theories
I used to be so addicted to this show and the whole universe of it and every game that was made even when they weren't that great. Even way past the point everyone else started hating the show I was very into it up to probably season 8 or 9. I even started reading the comics because after a mid season finale I couldn't wait for more so I went looking. I ended up enjoying the comic even more than the show and today I own the entire comic series physically. But now it's like everything this series ever does under any department it feels more like "it makes money so let's do it" rather than "we have good ideas so let's do them" I wish I could still be as into this as I used to be.
That seems to be the mentality for most shoes unfortunately. I always get so disappointed when I found out about cut or deleted scenes from different shows because I cant help but think of how much better the show could have been overall. I was actually surprised to see how much stuff they left out of this show.
@@theironrubberduck it's not so much what they cut from the comic but the way they do it that bothers me. Like for the longest time the show was different from the comic In very good ways. The CDC was a great addition, Shane was a much better character in the show, obviously Daryl and Meryl are fan favorites and they don't even exist in the comic. alot of the bad changes are really just little nitpicks like the lack of swearing which they need to do cause it's on basic tv, or never getting around to cutting ricks hand off which do they really need to anyway? But once you start getting into season 8 and season 9 where literally the entire heart and soul of the show is ripped out when carl dies and Rick gets taken off in a helicopter never to be seen again that's where the show was changed into an irredeemable state and been in a purgatory not alive but not quite dead yet state ever since. The one constant you always had in this show was the main character and his son, you don't have a walking dead story without Rick and Carl as far as I'm concerned. In the comic the entire story lived and died by those 2 characters. Alot of these changes I don't mind at all and alot of times I actually liked that the show did stuff a little different but they changed too much. And Rick leaving I know isn't so much the shows fault the actor was doing the role for a decade and wanted a break but that doesn't change the fact that Rick leaving the show completely put those nails in the shows coffin. Even with him coming back now it's kinda too late.
@@wrathoftheflyingspaghettim850 Carl’s death was the biggest mistake the show made imo, especially after seeing how much his character grew and where his comic counterpart ended up.
22:11 Agreed, I don’t believe Otis put her in the barn, but I also think Hershel really didn’t know. I think Jimmy put her there during the time everyone was worried about Carl and thats why when Carl woke up he was asking about her. And I believe Patricia (who fed the walkers) never said anything cause she didn’t want the group to leave like Hershel did
I don't think that makes a difference it was either odis or Jimmy. It's not a bad thing cause she was a Walker. Nobody's blaming them they're just upset because It had been through the whole time. But Otis was out with Shane. And the others were still at the freeway so ot is was dead by the time the others showed up. Why wouldn't Jimmy unventured I put a little girl in there.. I don't think anybody's trying to put down Otis but hes the only one that couldn't speak up and say Hey there's a little girl I put in the barn. So most likely it was odest the rest of the people did not know she was in there or they would have said something. You put it you're kind of making it sound like they hit it from Rick and the group and that is not who Herschel was.
@@donnahanna10565you should take a few seconds to proof read or at least pay attention to what you type. It’ll make understanding you so much easier.
The Walking Dead was never as good as season 1 but when Rick said, "We are the walking dead: season five" That was pretty cool.
🥱
imo season 1 and 2 are amazing and then after that it goes up and down, but when Rick gave the "we tell ourselves that we are the walking dead" speech it was such an amazing moment.
Like every show that turns bad, there's still some treasures in the piles of trash.
After the 1st season I do love the farm and the prison seasons, after that I just started liking *most parts* and then *some* and then *a little* and then "you're going to have to watch for a while to find something" so eventually it wasn't worth it to continue.
@@millsrome yeah, I can’t find myself to watch the show consistently after season 5 until Negan shows up. Jeffrey Dean Morgan really steals the scene, I like that Negan is a comedic relief but other than that the show isn’t that good anymore (for me)
@@yazminlares6000 Actually I'm the complete opposite lmao not because he's a bad guy because I like the villains more that the main protagonists sometimes and a really good antagonist elevates the show... but I hate JDM portrayal with a passion! I have never seen him in anything else and I don't know if the decisions were his but I just couldn't stand it, his dialog is truly terrible. I just read a quote in this comment section, something about "seeing red" and jfc 🙄 and the leaning thing that he did! I think he tried to do what Depp did for Jack Sparrow but it didn't work that well, at least for me.
Anyways yeah I watched a little after Glenn's death to see how they handled it and again, i liked some parts but keeping up started to feel like a chore so I stopped. I kept hearing about the deaths mostly and when Andrew Lincoln left I just stopped paying attention
Lennie James is INCREDIBLE in that "I see red scene." One of my all time favorites. Raw emotion.
26:05 Also it’s worth noting that in the first season, dr jenner told the group that he had seen walkers turn as fast as 3 minutes after dying
I used to watch the Walking Dead with my mom all the time and this has made me want to revisit the show. Brought back so many memories, loved it.
That’s awesome! Hope you’re doing well stranger!
I stopped watching the show half way through season 2 and never watched or cared about it again. Hearing you say season 10 almost made me choke on my food.
Honestly the show is horrible. Just read the comics
Honestly, the comics are horrible. Just do something else.
@@braydenc1791 Agreed, best couple hundred you could spend for all of them.
Honestly the something else is horrible. Just play the Telltale game.
@@princeapoopoo5787 honestly season 3 & 4 are horrible. Just play the first two games
The world is haunted is legit such a good line and such a harrowing thought. I get why it stuck with you so much.
All the philosophical theories are so interesting especially the Shane theory.
the idea of the walkers having glimpses of who they used to be after they turn is really cool imo. it would also work as a counterpart to how people like jim kept seeing flashes of walkers when he was turning, so while youre turning, you see glimpses of what youll become, and after youve turned you see glimpses of once was. this idea also lends some merit to miltons idea that there was still some kind of conscientious within the walkers.
Remember the girl that Carol had to kill? She said it, the dead aren't dead.
Lizzie. She said she can hear them.
@@UdoLattek02 Aye but she was batshit insane in general so we'll take her words with a grain of salt
My favorite theory is that TWD universe is an alternate version of Breaking Bad universe in which Walker White and Jesse couldn't eliminate de fly in the episode Fly, the fly contaminated the meth and the meth contaminated the addicted, as we see in Fear The Walking Dead junkies being one of the first victims.
Also the fact the meth was so pure it HAD to of fucked up the junkies usin it
@@jewelsvevo8153 nah probably the opposite the un pure meth would be fucking you up
"Jesse! It's an CONTAMINANT!!!!"
A perfect theory
Damn it jesse, this is all his fault
When you stated talking about the Negan Merch Controversy, I thought you were going to say that people were upset by a shirt glamorizing a murderer, and was really caught off guard when you said “he said the phrase was extremely racist” 💀
Yeah grasping at straws on that one
28:05 His lore made by the actor is interesting. The lore the actor came up with was that the singer, named blue moon or dark moon or something moon, had someone break into his house shortly after the outbreak happened, and Beta had to kill him, but after killing him, he saw the man had his merchandise on, and out of fear that people would view him not as just a murderer, but as his musician past turned murderer, he wore masks over his face to prevent people from seeing his face, which is why (spoilers) when he meets alpha, he wears a ski mask, and then puts a walkers face on his face. It’s also why when gamma (I think it was her) rips half his face mask off, he gets crazy angry, and why he puts half of Alphas face on his face.
When you mentioned that the "helicopter people" could be a enclave type situation it dawned on me what the actual meaning of "A or B" is.
Asset or Body
An "A" or Asset is someone/thing that they are specifically searching for, from the looks of it it's retrained infected probably for experimentation.
While a "B" or Body is somone/thing that isn't what they are looking for but could still be useful to be in their possession... In this case probably fresh manpower that could be easy to manipulate to their cause.
Fallout enclave? If so they both seem to have ex military/former government roots
U are correct on your assumption of the difference between an "A or B". They actually covered the specifics in a spinoff series called The Walking Dead: World Beyond, which goes into detail about the CRM. Cool show I recommend checking it out if you are still engaged in current twd storyline
if they start to hear patriotic music on the radio they're fucked
I figured my own meaning out A for “alpha” and B for “beta”
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The fact that the writers didn’t think anyone would use a spear for like 6 seasons has always been hilarious to me , the number one go to weapon for zombies but nah these fools had their characters running around with four inch fixed blades like they all happened to receive knife training from Doug Marcaida
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Spears are massively overpowered irl, but I'd be a little worried that, against zombies, I'd have a bunch jump on it and I'd get overrun before I can get it unstuck.
Now, a staff sword, on the other hand. . . .
@@eyesofthecervino3366 that’s a good point actually. An unthinking wall of flesh would just… Walk through the stick, and you would be stuck if unprepared. Obviously a knife is still dangerous, but it’s cooler and able to be pulled out faster
@@cornfield3034 the show never shed light on how easy it would be to get a knife stuck in a skull. I don’t think there is a perfect weapon for twd but I think I’d take a sword like Michonne
"The whole world is haunted" is like in the original dawn of the dead I believe when one of the characters says that the zombies are because hell is full.
Correcr. The character was talking about his Hatian, voodoo-practicing grandfather who had said that quote when he was younger.
If that is true, that makes the world of TWD much scarier.
@@GoldFittyCal hell is full so when you die you don’t go there you just turn lmao
@@Chuked "you just turn" which is still scary and something I don't want.
@@GoldFittyCal don’t worry zombies are scientifically impossible
The craziest/coolest supernatural moment in my opinion was in season 3 of Fear the Walking Dead.
Daniel Salazar is injured and unable to defeat this walker, so he gets down on his knees and starts praying, and right before the walker is able to get to him, lightning strikes the walker directly in the dome and it dies.
Straight up divine intervention.