4-HO-MET (Metocin): What You Need To Know

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ส.ค. 2019
  • 4-HO-MET is a tryptamine psychedelic that has been minimally researched and is primarily sold through the research chemical market. However, it does have a longer history of use than a lot of RCs, having been subjectively described by the chemist Alexander Shulgin in the 1990s and somewhat widely used since the 2000s.
    It is known for producing less mentally intense, though highly visual experiences relative to psychedelics like LSD, psilocin, and 4-AcO-DMT. That is a fair general characterization of the drug, but its tendency to be recreational and clearheaded should not be overstated.
    Some users experience strong mental effects at common doses and for a large portion of users it will eventually become intense if high enough doses are used. As is true for essentially all psychedelics, it deserves respect and should not be treated as a risk-free substance.
    A proper set and setting remain important factors for reducing the risks and enhancing the positive aspects of the drug.
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  • @TheDrugClassroom
    @TheDrugClassroom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Thank you to everyone who has donated to TDC to help this content exist and to the DNSTARS community for generously sponsoring the video!
    *Timestamps*
    General Effects - 01:54
    Mental Effects - 02:47
    Perceptual Effects - 10:00
    Physical & Other Effects - 14:15
    After Effects - 16:46
    Timeline - 18:54
    Chemistry - 20:25
    Pharmacology - 21:45
    History - 22:45
    How It’s Used - 23:52
    Legality - 26:48
    Safety - 27:09

    • @Flowerz__
      @Flowerz__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you for all your videos! Very important work

    • @TheDrugClassroom
      @TheDrugClassroom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Flowerz__ Thanks for watching!

    • @apotheoz9196
      @apotheoz9196 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheDrugClassroom I hoped you would have spoken a bit about the serotonin syndrom that can be caused by taking large doses of 4-ho-met. A friend of mine got to the hospital because he took 60mg of metocin which is not that much finally.

    • @TheDrugClassroom
      @TheDrugClassroom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@apotheoz9196 The overdose risks I discuss at the end (e.g. hyperthermia and kidney damage) are partly serotonin toxicity risks, but like with any psychedelic the risk of ST is low, so I did not opt to go into it, especially as no case reports about it exist. Most 5-HT2A agonists are expected to carry some potential for it.

    • @ergonomiczero2228
      @ergonomiczero2228 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You da mang! Thanks, well done...again

  • @jorispelder8333
    @jorispelder8333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +509

    When a mate and me did it for the first time we walked 14 km straight in the rain, it was absolutely crazy and awesome. We were just making shitty jokes and laughing our ass of about them, being completely overwhelmed in a fun way and eating tomatoes

    • @jorispelder8333
      @jorispelder8333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@noworries7673 yeah sure man, it was a lovely introduction to 4-HO-MET. Not a waste at all I would say. What I've learned from deeper psychedelic experiences is that it's important to just enjoy it as well

    • @jorispelder8333
      @jorispelder8333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@noworries7673 Don't take this as a trip report. This is only a small summarization of a large portion of that trip. In this same trip I also experienced memories coming alive depending of where I would go, what street I would go in. Overall, this specific experience was just for having fun and trying out the substance for the very first time. I do take on deeper experiences with different intentions, but as I said, what I've learned from some of those and "shallower" experiences is that it's absolutely fine to take it easy every now and then too. Just to have fun with it is alright. And may I ask, how do YOU take part in the psychedelic experience?

    • @jorispelder8333
      @jorispelder8333 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@rmbassett58 hahaha yeah, those small snacktomatoes

    • @mysticrhythmsundercityligh1026
      @mysticrhythmsundercityligh1026 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How can I get these drugs I live with mom btw

    • @mysticrhythmsundercityligh1026
      @mysticrhythmsundercityligh1026 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rmbassett58 it is

  • @DiscoMouse
    @DiscoMouse 4 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    This is a fantastic public resource, thanks for all your hard work

    • @skipper7990
      @skipper7990 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Simply can't appreciate these videos enough.

    • @mitchelljacky1617
      @mitchelljacky1617 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Could do a bit better with the chemistry, but I think he has a mostly comprehensive and accessible platform.

    • @thog4809
      @thog4809 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mitchell Jacky it’s a channel about drugs lol not about the chemical bonds of their respective molecules lol

    • @almirahmedic4399
      @almirahmedic4399 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Best

  • @mitchellporductin
    @mitchellporductin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +207

    Just found that you actually have documents on your website with the drug information you find.
    You're amazing, I sincerely thank you for taking the time to do this.

    • @BigBodyBiggolo
      @BigBodyBiggolo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Wow he should really promote that more often i didnt even know that

  • @OdhranW123
    @OdhranW123 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The increased laughter and humour is real lol I couldn’t stop laughing the whole day 😂

  • @jcb8711
    @jcb8711 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm glad you posted about this. Thank you seth! You help millions of people without you knowing!

  • @3245james
    @3245james 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Its lovely seeing people in the comments with first hand experience & positive reports on this substance.

  • @shawnkintz9813
    @shawnkintz9813 4 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Man, thank you so much for all the hard work you do brother. Warms my heart to know there are people out there willing to give up there time for harm reduction. I appreciate you.

    • @doraemon402
      @doraemon402 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Learning is a great way to use your time

  • @Oracle13
    @Oracle13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These videos are MOST excellent! The amount of detail and information presented is more than generous and clearly delivered. Thank you so much for your contributions!

  • @thatwasacooltrick5627
    @thatwasacooltrick5627 4 ปีที่แล้ว +354

    4-HO-MET is pretty nice

    • @huwthomas9954
      @huwthomas9954 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      Yeah sounds like an ideal psychedelic

    • @Flowerz__
      @Flowerz__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What’s it do to you?

    • @dpounder101
      @dpounder101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@Flowerz__ watch the video?

    • @DingDongDaddyFromDumas
      @DingDongDaddyFromDumas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@huwthomas9954 Nah not at all. It's decent and worth trying but pretty lacking in many ways and has some pretty gross effects like strong body aches and muscle spasms and makes your brain feel like its tied in a knot after the peak.
      Also the visuals are more of a weird blur than the standard HD geometric type visuals
      Edit: awesome audio effects though. Also, mixing it with phenibut is pretty amazing. They synergize into a new more recreational drug

    • @Flowerz__
      @Flowerz__ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      dpounder101 I’m asking him personally??

  • @jabraham14
    @jabraham14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I'm very grateful to have stumbled upon this channel. I feel strongly that TH-cam and the internet in general was/is in need of this sort of education with what could be very transformational substances.

  • @taplast2503
    @taplast2503 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So happy you see sponsors supporting the channel ❤️🍄🤗

  • @chonkchibbles1109
    @chonkchibbles1109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I adore this one! I think the introspection from other psychs is the most special part of tripping, but I love losing myself to the visuals/empathy/euphoria of this while not having the reflection creep up on me. Another beautiful compound from Shulgin + another beautifully informative vid. Thank you!

    • @tristarperfecta1061
      @tristarperfecta1061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I just ordered some of this and your description is making me smile.

    • @kos8098
      @kos8098 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      can you please recommend on the dosages?

    • @creamydistortion
      @creamydistortion ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I took 50mg on a mountain top in Southeast Asia and it was perfect.

  • @DrugTalk
    @DrugTalk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Great breakdown! Your channel is awesome. It's really impressive that you've built such a large audience. Keep up the great work!

    • @jaapmat
      @jaapmat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Real represent real, cool to see you here.

  • @speciosasaves3579
    @speciosasaves3579 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how professional you are in all your videos. Keep it up. Looking forward to more videos. Thank my friend

  • @speciosasaves3579
    @speciosasaves3579 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Nice I've been waiting for this one. Thanks man.👍

  • @TheDrakmannen
    @TheDrakmannen ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I've had 4-ho-met a few times, most times the doses were rather small, and the trips were nothing special. Overall pleasant enough. Once though, we took a bit more by mistake (hard to dose small quantities of powder). I don't remember how many milligrams we tried to take or how much we actually ended up taking roughly but I think we wanted to take like 50ish mg and ended up taking more like 80-90mg. This might be inaccurate but its probably in the ballpark.
    This time, the come up was different. We had taken the powder orally with water and then we started playing some guitar hero to pass the time, however, almost immediately (like 2-3 songs in) we started feeling uneasy. We were three people that had taken it and we were all feeling weird. The best I can describe it is "impending doom" or that something major is going to hit soon, and hard. We quickly turned off the video game, put on some music and went to lay on the bed. A few more minutes of unease and then we all start having pretty incredible visual hallucinations. I was tripping so hard even with my eyes closed I was seeing red, fleshy cityscapes behind my eyelids. Music was helping us with our unease, and pretty soon we were all in a much better mental state, enjoying ourselves. The main part of the trip we just stayed in the bed, chilling, listening to the music and from that point on, the trip was intense but overall pretty chill.
    What I remember most though is the early unease and how it dissolved very quickly once we started to relax into it. Like the video says, very visually intense, probably the most intense visual hallucinations I've ever had, and even with the disquiet we felt at the start it was still child's play compared to the onset other substances like DPT, bromo-dragonfly or LSA.
    To me 4-ho-met felt very close to LSD, but perhaps more colourful and less stressful overall.

    • @spudgun889
      @spudgun889 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very helpful.

    • @KysEcstacy
      @KysEcstacy หลายเดือนก่อน

      Youve done dragonfly? Im curious how that was if you dont mind

  • @trypt4min375
    @trypt4min375 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel is pure gold

  • @acidproductions11
    @acidproductions11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Drug classroom never fails to educate! Really appreciate the videos, great harm reduction. There’s this new research chemical I wanted you to look at called Tianeptine, a trycylic antidepressant at common doses and acts as an opioid in large doses. Thanks!

    • @westernnursing2063
      @westernnursing2063 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tianeptine is very addictive and your tolerance grows extremely fast, after two days I had to triple my dose to get the same affect. I would recommend only doing it once or twice and then leaving it alone if you feel you really have to take it.

  • @xy101
    @xy101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks! You give accurate information. This channel is excellent. Damage reduction in the best possible way.

  • @atartup
    @atartup 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would pay for these videos, thank you for making them

  • @nonow1353
    @nonow1353 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man this is amazing, my psylocin extract thing went upside down, no longer available going to order this today, thank you.

  • @vanation321
    @vanation321 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video. Been subscribed to you for a few years now and content has always been quality.

  • @LSDMTHC42069
    @LSDMTHC42069 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent, accurate, comprehensive report, aleays enjoy and appreciate the content, thank you

  • @nyctoph1020
    @nyctoph1020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    NEW TDC VIDEO HYPE

  • @damianp7313
    @damianp7313 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow thanks for making a video on good old 4-ho met !!!

  • @johnmike121
    @johnmike121 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yay new video! Thanks Seth!

  • @irambleaboutdrugs3596
    @irambleaboutdrugs3596 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    One of my favorite drugs ever. Thanks for covering it!

    • @MnemonicHeadTrip
      @MnemonicHeadTrip 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How do you get it?

    • @samdonify
      @samdonify 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Idkhowtokms I usually just ask the post office.. and boom they deliver this magic package out of thin air 🤩

    • @Jedi_Are_Scum
      @Jedi_Are_Scum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MnemonicHeadTrip chemagora.ca/product-category/pellets/ Look it up on wiki. It is still legal in most of the US.

    • @iuricpeixoto
      @iuricpeixoto 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Jedi_Are_Scum do u know any trustworthy site that delivers to Brazil?

    • @maxwelladams5114
      @maxwelladams5114 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would it be good for clubs or bars

  • @MrLucasRigby
    @MrLucasRigby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    4-HO-MET was one my favourite trips

  • @huntcheerio9214
    @huntcheerio9214 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I use 4-HO-MET therapeutically to great effect for bipolar disorder. Life changing.

  • @HIRAMECLARKEHOPS
    @HIRAMECLARKEHOPS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love your content dude! So much good info, and presented so well.

  • @soccrstar4
    @soccrstar4 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Seth’s in-depth dives into an array of psychoactive drugs is unbelievably informational and undeniably helps with harm reduction. TDC is the channel we need, but not the channel we deserve right now.

    • @Mamboyyyyy
      @Mamboyyyyy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      CheezitsChrist we’re going to need this channel for a long time.

    • @MichiganJFrog.
      @MichiganJFrog. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mamboyyyyy *informative

    • @toni6194
      @toni6194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Everybody deseves free non bias drug education

  • @NickKont
    @NickKont 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Basically you made a video and putting in all the possible effects and side effects someone can experience by using any hallucinogenic RC in existence!

  • @documentofchange
    @documentofchange 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Hey Seth, love the content, but I'd like to know what your experiences have been like. Btw, I put your podcast on at least once per day to make my day a bit more interesting. Thank you for the knowledge you share!

    • @jonnyspace50
      @jonnyspace50 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      what are you talking about? Thats how he gets the effects info ;)

  • @CleezyClark
    @CleezyClark 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thanks for covering this! Tried it once and it is my favorite! Very interesting sensation. It's like tripping with a sober mind. You can dive into a concept and get weird if ya want, or you can "turn it off".

  • @RandyMarshCOD
    @RandyMarshCOD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I haven’t done research in a few years and this is the first 4HOMET video I have found reliable. By far my favorite psychedelic and most memorable experiences. Had my first breakthrough while on this.

    • @OfficialTeamLaN
      @OfficialTeamLaN 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      4 ho met is amazing🤩

    • @kos8098
      @kos8098 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hallo my friend. Can you please share what is it similar to? Does it feel like NN-DMT, or like taking mushrooms?
      I still haven't understood how it feels and also it's effects

    • @OfficialTeamLaN
      @OfficialTeamLaN 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kos8098 it is like mushrooms with a less headspace on high dosis u can get some dmt look a like visuels, and get more headspace

    • @kos8098
      @kos8098 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@OfficialTeamLaN thank you very much

    • @londarousey8767
      @londarousey8767 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where do you get this from

  • @vallisdaemonumofficial
    @vallisdaemonumofficial 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This sparks Joy

  • @jeffgorski6754
    @jeffgorski6754 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Fantastic! I have only had a few experiences with 4-HO-MET. Very enjoyable in my opinion. I really appreciate the info.

    • @latenightneons_
      @latenightneons_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      jeff gorski how was nausea during the come up?

    • @samdonify
      @samdonify 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      latenightneons diet and exercise help with the psychedelic body load & nausea...
      I find that on psychedelics not only my mind is more acutely aware, but my mind also become aware of every part of my body inside and out.. it’s like realizing oh shit I’m a human and I’m actually fuckin alive, and when you don’t work out or take care of yourself sometimes during the trip that can cause uncomfortableness.. food also plays a huge role, eat like shit = feel like shit..

    • @trippie_fabio3181
      @trippie_fabio3181 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where did you even get your hands on some? Or are you in europe or some shit

  • @josephbailey4421
    @josephbailey4421 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video as always.

  • @napalm8030
    @napalm8030 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This sounds like the exact kind of psychedelic compound I would like to experience. I want! Really great content/video, thank you!

    • @tracyspencerhills
      @tracyspencerhills ปีที่แล้ว

      You can always order from 🆙☝️, he's legit & reliable...,.,.,..,,,,, ,,.,,,,,,,,,.

    • @blakesimon5318
      @blakesimon5318 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My experience on psychedelics has been of great help, I'm gonna stick to it because of its benefits, here is where I got em below

    • @blakesimon5318
      @blakesimon5318 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @Mycotenn_

  • @ShRiZzEL
    @ShRiZzEL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice video :) really awesome how u included the stuff at 1:00

  • @mettattem
    @mettattem 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic work! Would love to see a video on 4-Methylaminorex!

  • @SvartArntor
    @SvartArntor 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always

  • @ngantnier
    @ngantnier ปีที่แล้ว

    The best 4 substituted tryptamine IMO. I love the short duration and shallow trip as a chronic migraine and cluster headache sufferer. A profound trip becomes tiring when needing to macro dose every 5 days. Its unfortunate no one ships to the US anymore.

    • @Phantom-zz3jq
      @Phantom-zz3jq ปีที่แล้ว

      you should really try 4-aco-met, it converts to 4-ho-met in your body, 99% same but better

  • @user-th8ke7ql2e
    @user-th8ke7ql2e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4-Ho-met changed my life! In a positive way!

  • @whatsupmate3157
    @whatsupmate3157 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    good work tdc

  • @shadowcrux0
    @shadowcrux0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Seth, thank you

  • @ChrisSudlik
    @ChrisSudlik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    For my cluster headaches personally, I've found tryptamines don't last very long for relief. They'll buy between 6 days and 5 weeks, compared to a lysergamide trip that'll buy me 2-4 months of relief from the headaches, depending on which one and dose. The best relief I had was a bit over 3 years from ibogaine, but that's a bit riskier and wasn't exactly an easy time.

    • @nucance102
      @nucance102 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same I've been using mushies and LSD, only thing that has given me any sort of relief. I accidentally discovered that mushies help, then this round I found cluster busters, shit saved my life fo sho.

    • @completelytransparent6320
      @completelytransparent6320 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      wishing all who struggle with cluster headaches relief! this is an incredible comment. ive always thought psilocybin was the one for clusters. amazing that lysergamides help more. they do last longer in effect but its only a few hours. the next 20 years are going to be crazy in regards to our species. i love you all!! help someone today!! we all need help!

    • @ChrisSudlik
      @ChrisSudlik 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@completelytransparent6320 Yea it's wild that the length of the trip seems to impact the length of relief, but the correlation doesn't hold up across all

    • @qhotdog9343
      @qhotdog9343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      have you guys tried hawaiian baby woodrose seeds? They contain LSA and they're for sale on eBay, I had to get sober and they do the trick for me without any intoxication

    • @BASS.E
      @BASS.E ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had really intensive 2 times 3 months a year cluster headache periods before i started this once a week LSD trip rituals with consent of my psychiatrist. Also for ptsd. Have been cluster headache free ever since. And really i got them even during the day time. Sometimes i thought someone had been sticking a pin into a voodoo doll. found it a really creepy most painful disease. Wish you well

  • @TomTomTomTom538
    @TomTomTomTom538 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks been waiting for this one, used to really like this one, synergizes well. Went nice on top of stims, kratom and GBL. Been sober for a many years now but have fond memories

    • @TomTomTomTom538
      @TomTomTomTom538 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williamneuzil7403 yeah I was addicted to GBL and kratom so didn't really have a choice unless I wanted to trip in withdrawal. GBL goes nice with pretty much anything except downers

    • @TomTomTomTom538
      @TomTomTomTom538 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williamneuzil7403 1-2ml every couple of hours, waking in the night even to redose. You really need to be dosing 24/7 to get physical withdrawals because of the short half life. But dose frequency creeps up and before you know it you need it to stay asleep. The symptoms began with anxiety and confusion, then low mood, zero energy, freezing extremities, insomnia. After a period of 24/7 use, you get no positive effects even after long tolerance breaks, so it's pointless to continue. The withdrawal is pretty short but it takes some planning and a bit of bravery to get through it. The confusion was very scary, I couldn't make sense of anything and couldn't remember who my family were or anything.

    • @BigBodyBiggolo
      @BigBodyBiggolo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TomTomTomTom538 wow thats crazy, i was told ghb is a naturally occurring chemical in your body so you can never really get rid of your addiction, only manage it.
      Even tho that goes for most drugs do you still crave it often?

    • @TomTomTomTom538
      @TomTomTomTom538 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BigBodyBiggolo I think it's GABA that is the naturally occuring one and GHB/GBL work on the GABA receptors. I still crave it every now and then as with all drugs but less and less as time passes

  • @Nikopai
    @Nikopai 4 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO FELT THIS VERY "AZTEC" LIKE!!! :D

    • @LSDMTHC42069
      @LSDMTHC42069 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same with 4homipt ime

    • @bucksorel6805
      @bucksorel6805 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup i see what your meaning ! Visual were incredibly beautiful !!

    • @ngantnier
      @ngantnier ปีที่แล้ว

      They ate a lot of shrooms.

  • @bucksorel6805
    @bucksorel6805 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    everything on a 4ho met was like a bob ross painting it was really cool !

    • @TomTomTomTom538
      @TomTomTomTom538 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah I get what you mean mate nice way of describing it

  • @tristarperfecta1061
    @tristarperfecta1061 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've seen this channel before but never clicked on it. I'm glad I did this time. You are ana excellent source of information. I am experienced with dozens of psychedelics but this one is new to me and your summary is outstanding.
    Edit. If anyone experienced with this reads this, please share what dosages you go with? I've read about a wide range of doses. From what I understand so far. I plan to only start with 5 MG. Is that not enough?

  • @escarabajo_o
    @escarabajo_o 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks a lot for the great review! 13mg was quite strong for me.

  • @jbhrs
    @jbhrs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are good for understanding analogues

  • @Fluidz
    @Fluidz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i binge watch this playlist all the time, i can’t understand why it’s so interesting to me. also, you should make one on vyvanse and lsd

    • @LouiesLog
      @LouiesLog 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He has made some on LSD and Adderall

    • @Fluidz
      @Fluidz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LouiesLog vyvanse and addy are similar but different, and as of lsd i meant a what you need to know video

    • @trevorjohnson4965
      @trevorjohnson4965 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Fluidz Vyvanse is only levoamp. Adderall is dextroamp and levoamp. So basically the same

  • @triple_gem_shining
    @triple_gem_shining ปีที่แล้ว

    2ci was the craziest open eye visual come up I've ever seen. But it was very fleeting

  • @vallisdaemonumofficial
    @vallisdaemonumofficial 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting!
    Thanks again! 👍

  • @williamsnuggs8732
    @williamsnuggs8732 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m surprised you haven’t made one of these videos on 4-ACO-DMT

  • @mysteryY2K
    @mysteryY2K 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Went to a HOMESHAKE concert on 4-HO-MET. Easily one of my favorite psychoactive substances.

    • @BreakinASweat
      @BreakinASweat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Krypt i love listening to homeshake while tripping on shrooms! always wondered who else liked their music off psychedelics :)

    • @WacKaKO
      @WacKaKO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what dose did you take? also please provide a general body weight estimate to make it more accurate to me

    • @BreakinASweat
      @BreakinASweat 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WacKaKO i usually eat an 1/8th for a good trip, im 180 lb 5'10

    • @WacKaKO
      @WacKaKO 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BreakinASweat I meant for metocin.
      I cant do shrooms at concerts

    • @mysteryY2K
      @mysteryY2K 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WacKaKO I weigh 140lb/64kg and took 20mg

  • @wonderpierrot
    @wonderpierrot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Had my very first bad trip on 4-HO-MET, and it was truly the most terrifying moment of my life. I took 20mg on the onset, everything was great, but stupid me decided to redose only a few hours later with another 30-40mg. Visuals were so intense that I could no longer read because text started to wave and dance around like jelly with words jumbled into each other. Every color I saw started to put on a disco show. Every sound started to excessively echo. People's faces started morphing from young to very old in mere seconds. For about an hour, I felt like my brain was over flood with nonstop thoughts. Nonstop thoughts about my life, my friends, my family, my actions, almost all of them negative. Once the thoughts start, they begin to just get deeper and deeper, until I start questioning my existence entirely. I started to freak out and got so anxious that I might have a panic attack and alert my parents. I didn't want them to know I took an illegal drug and be sent to the hospital. Every second was agonizing. Closing my eyes I saw awful imagery, but sometimes beautiful ones too. I'd rather be dead then feel like this. I felt like I broke my brain and will never be the same again.
    Then after about an hour of this madness, a light bulb clicked. I had a funny thought in my head, and immediately started giggling. I was back to 4-HO-MET heaven! Then the rest of the night was fantastic and I was laughing and enjoying everything I saw or read. But man, 4-HO-MET is definitely not an entirely carefree drug. People who say it's light on the mind and headspace are nuts. It's analog of psilocin after all. From now on, I will just stick to under 20mg and probably not ever redose.

    • @yazzy8980
      @yazzy8980 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for sharingg

    • @michahogelo
      @michahogelo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      well you did take a huge dose so it was expected

  • @jerry3790
    @jerry3790 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Damn. There’s so many interesting drugs that I’ll probably never get the chance to try. Isn’t it a pity

    • @bodi.mp3
      @bodi.mp3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If it isn’t obvious, that other guy is a scam, but I just want to tell you that this one is around and is still the only RC I’ve actually purchased myself. It’s def a bit harder than just hitting up your usual plug or going to a dispo, but if you put in the time, you can find some sources. Just be aware, there are a shit ton of scams, look at places that ship from Canada rather than from the US directly if you’re US based like me.

  • @adamgcnk
    @adamgcnk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This gave me visuals similar to dmt breakthrough yet while feeling completely myself.. and i also came up after like 15mins..pretty crazy

    • @maxwelladams5114
      @maxwelladams5114 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would 15 give you visuals

    • @TheDrakmannen
      @TheDrakmannen ปีที่แล้ว

      Yea when I took around 80-90mg it also only took about 15-20 mins.

  • @generosen999
    @generosen999 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your work

  • @unterbawr
    @unterbawr ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Had a horrible bad trip experience, most likely bc I didnt feel 100% comfortable with the people and also had no idea what i was getting myself into. 2 people I barely knew & my cousin, and in their apartment, watching Speed Racer listening to music, just felt out of place.
    Had no idea how psychadelics would feel, we first bombed it (swallowed wrapped in paper) and after 1h nothing happened so the extremely experienced dude suggested we snorted a line each too. Again, I had never tested psychadelics before.
    Stuff started moving, lamps started dancing, I saw audio coming out of the speakers, text danced around, the movie came out of the tv and painted the room. Was fkn awesome.
    And then someone said "oh no, where is it" and from that point I just had a bad trip throughout the last 4-5h or so.
    First sign was when all the color just melted away and everything turned black and white and I got so fixated and upset that this dude couldnt find whatever he was looking for. And the outside world seemed to close in to the point that I got so frustrated not knowing what existed outside the walls of the room. And then I tried to ask "what do people do in a normal day??" but I couldnt speak anymore, and then I couldnt think anymore, and then I got tossed in a infinite time loop with sound so loud I couldnt believe it, and colors wooshing around, and no faces to be recognized at all. Just reliving the same 5-6 seconds for infinity.
    Then came back down, started nervously laughing, looking at all the faces transforming every second, horrific. and then back into the same time loop for another infinity.
    this was so traumatizing that I never rly recovered fully from it. For months it felt like I would lose my mind and go back into this time loop. I couldnt look ppl in their eyes, or at photos, or even long distances (like horizon) without having this feeling, or listen to music at all. Couldnt sleep or close my eyes for longer than 2 seconds.
    Had to have some comfy youtube vid on and keep watching it with 1 eye opened until I passed out, every night.
    I dont think my mind was rdy for psychadelics ^^

    • @michaeldormanen3515
      @michaeldormanen3515 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro that’s crazy asf, how old were you? I’m 18 and I’m thinking about trying psychedelics but I’m not sure which one to start with

    • @lapom5669
      @lapom5669 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaeldormanen3515 I started with a low dose of salvia. Very intense, but It lasts only 5-10 minutes

    • @tmoney780
      @tmoney780 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you ever recover I have also had a similar experience (3+ years of dealing with the fallout).

    • @unterbawr
      @unterbawr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @tmoney780 I'm much better now years after but I don't even smoke weed anymore bc I don't dare, and the nightly jump scares / almost epileptic moments are gone but always lurking ^^
      worst Ive had for a while was vivid nightmare of tripping again
      this all happened to me at mb age 28 I'm turning 34 now ^^

    • @divinewind7405
      @divinewind7405 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@unterbawr bless you. 🙏

  • @smokedagas9599
    @smokedagas9599 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    good info keep it up!!!

  • @advente
    @advente 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for this

  • @RealityTrailers
    @RealityTrailers 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Removed all the bad shtuff from the drug and only utilize the best of it all (it's pure frequencies) for the most optimal effects. Spooky 2 Scalar technology is amazing.

  • @sternkrieger1950
    @sternkrieger1950 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Phenibut + 4-HO-MET. Holy crap, the best experience of my life. I went from crazy, uncontrollable laughing fits to being completely immersed in visual abstract euphoria. Plus, it literally has no body load and clear headspace. Shamefully, I can probably only do this combo once a month.

    • @boaz5898
      @boaz5898 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sternkrieger how would one acquire metocin in the US?

    • @sternkrieger1950
      @sternkrieger1950 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@boaz5898 Well, you can try The Indole Shop, but you have to use a bank transfer using Zelle. I've bought from them many times and never had issues.

    • @holyshit1916
      @holyshit1916 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sternkrieger I’ve had a package lost through customs from Indole Shop but also had success before then. Had another no-show after that and gave up

    • @sternkrieger1950
      @sternkrieger1950 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@holyshit1916 True, I just recently had some 1P-LSD never show up from them, which was disappointing as it was going to be my first LSD experience. Plus, they don't offer any insurance and reship for lost packages. But it was also probably not a good idea anyway to order anything overseas during a pandemic. I might give them another shot when the pandemic is over, but if it's a no show again I'll probably be done with them. Let me know if you find any other reliable sources.

    • @holyshit1916
      @holyshit1916 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sternkrieger well I’m not ordering overseas, I’m just in the US. But I’ve tried two Canadian vendors and both didn’t show, save for the first time at one. There was a huge bust at Canadian customs last summer. They seized tons of LSD. Was in the news. I honestly might look toward darker methods

  • @papyshak
    @papyshak 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh man this is the greatest tryptamine ever, so colourful and fun, no bad trips guaranteed

    • @evan3272
      @evan3272 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      His given masses of excellent on Psychedelics merchandise, Shrooms MDMA, Lsd, Dmt, Chocolate Bars, Spores, Spores Syringe, Micro-dose, Grow kits, Grains and extra inclusive, he supplies discreetly to any where and also offers you guide each time you need, offers his each day resistant dosage guild to new people...

    • @evan3272
      @evan3272 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Feelgrabz,,,,,

    • @evan3272
      @evan3272 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Reach him via his Instagram handle or Telegram channel....

  • @alexandervangelderen185
    @alexandervangelderen185 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good video

  • @stephenpike782
    @stephenpike782 ปีที่แล้ว

    4-ac-det is also really awesome I would like to see you do a video about it if you haven't already.

  • @charliecrome207
    @charliecrome207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Hey man! Love your content. Have you ever considered opening a discord server? There is a frustrating lack of servers that discuss topics like this so I think it would be a great idea . Just a thought (:

    • @TheDrugClassroom
      @TheDrugClassroom  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      TDC has a server! :) join via bit.ly/tdcdiscord

    • @inthewoods999
      @inthewoods999 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Charlie Crome discord.gg/6KAZJjD help find the others server😁

  • @Mizzle420420
    @Mizzle420420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a top notch channel, very helpful and informative. This stuff sounds dope I want some

    • @kingtut8692
      @kingtut8692 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I get mine through Troy, his email is kiptontroy@gmail.com just tell him king sent u

    • @Mizzle420420
      @Mizzle420420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kingtut8692 that's what's up, he just has this stuff or other shit too?

    • @Mizzle420420
      @Mizzle420420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@kingtut8692 how do you like it?

    • @kingtut8692
      @kingtut8692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mizzle420420 he has other stuff too, and I LOVE IT! I've been ordering through him for months now

    • @kingtut8692
      @kingtut8692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Mizzle420420 and he provides tracking bro

  • @automaticacidemer
    @automaticacidemer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is the only psychedelic where I saw absolutely terrifying hallucinatory stuff going on, it was insane but I wasn't at all scared. Fully aware i was just tripping, but so vivid. Crazy old witches and shit 😂

  • @ChrisLowResDream
    @ChrisLowResDream 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    amazing,thanks

  • @DeadBoyCE
    @DeadBoyCE ปีที่แล้ว

    Pretty good love ya Alexander ❤️

  • @coiotte80
    @coiotte80 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love it!

  • @theofficialstig
    @theofficialstig 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the aztec/mayan style visuals really resonate with me !
    not sure why, I personally saw it as more hindu imagery of gods but aztec also feels accurate

  • @OtherwisePanic
    @OtherwisePanic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I mixed 300ug 1p-LSD and 50mg 4-HO-MET, the come up was terribly uncomfortable, I felt like I overdosed caffeine yet felt the calming effects of the psychedelia which made me slightly anxious, then maybe 40 minutes I my heart was pounding, my limbs felt very strange and I puked a few times. The visuals were very intense but also interesting, but it wasn't until after my peak that I was able to truly enjoy myself. I sincerely felt as though I poisoned myself and the only thing I could do that actually made me feel good during my peak was cry, but while crying I was in a very introspective mind space and went very deep inside myself. Crazy shit.

  • @mpdg11
    @mpdg11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thank you for your content!! where i live, there's lots of talk on microdosing lsd - do you have any thoughts on the topic? could you do a video on this and how to approach it if someone is interested in doing it?

  • @bucksorel6805
    @bucksorel6805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn i love 4ho met and 4ho mipt !!! Its smooth as hell i would recomend newbie to try 4ho for a first trip instead of mushroom or lsd personnaly. The visual effect was so beautiful we were lookin at trees and landscape for hour in awe. I would re order soon! Never were disapointed with 4ho and its alexander shlugin that have invented this drug if i remember correctly

    • @ganapatikitty
      @ganapatikitty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ive had this a year ago, but cant find it all... :( its really nice to me though ,do you know where to find it??

    • @trippie_fabio3181
      @trippie_fabio3181 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dawg where the fuck do you guys find some LMFAO, i know i know i sound like a fed but im just tryna trip on some shit other than 1P-LSD and shrooms

  • @jasonbourne7179
    @jasonbourne7179 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Approved.

  • @ProbablyOnLSD6669
    @ProbablyOnLSD6669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4-HO-MET is fuego af

  • @harmonicvibrations1901
    @harmonicvibrations1901 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video

  • @gogo311
    @gogo311 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very weird that it inhibits the SERT! Gret video, keep it up!

  • @JuanPerez-mw7co
    @JuanPerez-mw7co ปีที่แล้ว

    I love 4-HO-MET

  • @Sintacs
    @Sintacs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always (actually) urinate a lot on this, and generally have a headache the next day, no matter how much water I drink during the trip. Outside of that it's great, especially when mixed with LSD.

  • @Doireannxo
    @Doireannxo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Best drug I've ever taken

  • @derrickperez2930
    @derrickperez2930 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is just a really long advertisement for it.. and a good one! thanks!))))

  • @krishna34674
    @krishna34674 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    In my experience its just and all round lovely psychedelic !

    • @EssenesOrthopraxy
      @EssenesOrthopraxy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would love to know where to get it, because for example I wanted LSD but I never could find a vendor, even more real LSD, do I don't know where about metocin for reasearch purpose only.if you know send me the link to yeshuas-elohim@hotmail.com

    • @krishna34674
      @krishna34674 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Google it mate... smh

    • @kungfew1396
      @kungfew1396 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@krishna34674 Googling it doesn't mean you get the right product or that it's not laced with who knows what.

    • @krishna34674
      @krishna34674 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Check all the dnm's and buy the correct test kits and scales.

    • @Pcx1750
      @Pcx1750 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Max Lamberty I’m not a plug or am i shamelessly promoting this website, they’re just extremely professional, and source from the only lab in Europe that makes RC psychs. They’re called chemlogix.ca it is where i bought mine from. I highly recommend them

  • @carlkoyi2265
    @carlkoyi2265 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my favs the organic colors are great

  • @tfwmemedumpster
    @tfwmemedumpster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    "A more in depth overview is available on the tdc website"
    More in depth than 30 minutes of video?? I think i'm gonna pass on this one. 😅

  • @rustyshackleford2380
    @rustyshackleford2380 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I think I had this a few times in my 20's. They came in press pill form, looked like a roll pill but just a little smaller. It had a mushroom on it. We just called them silly pills. They made you feel pretty silly.

    • @rustyshackleford2380
      @rustyshackleford2380 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Clayton Bialek what makes you say that?

    • @KomradeKlonopin
      @KomradeKlonopin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rustyshackleford2380 I'm assuming he said that because what you took was likely 2cb

    • @rustyshackleford2380
      @rustyshackleford2380 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KomradeKlonopin no it was way different than 2cb 2ci 2ce or any of those other 2c research chemicas.I was told it was a psilocybin analog but you know how that goes in the research chemical world. God only knows what it was.

  • @MiguelMorales85
    @MiguelMorales85 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Educational

  • @TheArrogantMonk
    @TheArrogantMonk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Would love to learn more about DiPT’s strange auditory effects.

    • @bb9843
      @bb9843 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      DiPT is weird, i did a small dose once and never felt and mental shift or anything physical so i didnt think it worked until i spoke out loud and heard other people speaking, my own voice and everyone elses sounded deep and demonic it was like i changed the sound settings in my brain. It was pretty interesting but i dont think i can recommend it since it gave me pretty bad tinitus despite being a low dose.

    • @user-ki9pk7fk5w
      @user-ki9pk7fk5w 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bb9843 are u still experiencing the tinitus?

    • @bb9843
      @bb9843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@user-ki9pk7fk5w no, it was gone by the next day

  • @HIRAMECLARKEHOPS
    @HIRAMECLARKEHOPS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Woah! This stuff sounds great, I love 2cb but it's rare af, this sounds just like it though.

    • @Rock48100
      @Rock48100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It doesn't produce anywhere near the same feelings of love & empathy and is far less euphoric, but it's still very enjoyable

    • @TomTomTomTom538
      @TomTomTomTom538 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      And not stimulating

    • @Rock48100
      @Rock48100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TomTomTomTom538 It's got a bit of a stimmy edge to it but you're right in that it's not even close to the energy phenethylamines (like 2cb) give you

    • @damienlente3682
      @damienlente3682 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      2cb is so common where i live (netherlands lol)

    • @Rock48100
      @Rock48100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@damienlente3682 I have a friend who brings me some occasionally when he visits. Wonderful stuff

  • @wissewester1276
    @wissewester1276 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my, i went hard on colour been through at least 8g by now gotta say its awesome.

    • @user-ki9pk7fk5w
      @user-ki9pk7fk5w 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      where do u get it? i find sites but they look fake asf

  • @niabass4426
    @niabass4426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All the things he’s mentioned for effects is true , I’ve felt all this but sadly had me ended up in a hospital.

    • @kennethromo8302
      @kennethromo8302 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why?

    • @niabass4426
      @niabass4426 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kennethromo8302 why towards what? This is what 4HOMet makes you see and go through. Me and my Complicated relationship , we took two higher dosages together.

    • @kennethromo8302
      @kennethromo8302 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@niabass4426 why’d you end up in the hospital

    • @niabass4426
      @niabass4426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kennethromo8302 drugs. , my body/brain didn’t take it to well I was going insane. I’ve felt different body temperatures , hearing voices and seeing visuals. My body was weak to where I couldn’t move. I kept having accidents on myself. My pupils were big. I’ve had nightmares , I was seeing Sprits. -_- yeah ! Still hear voices , paranoia, I’ve been experience sleep paralysis after the hospital.

    • @rvbball1
      @rvbball1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@niabass4426 Do you think you took too much?

  • @thehangedman6690
    @thehangedman6690 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did it years ago with a buddy of mine. Pretty positive, much lighter for those intimidated by heavier psychodelics. Makes you want to walk and music sounds great. Very positive experience.

  • @triple_gem_shining
    @triple_gem_shining 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds dope