I feel like even without Turbo Building, the community would still find giant work arounds, so even if someone hated Turbo Building somehow, and it was removed, it wouldn't matter. And even then, people like that should be playing Zero Build. this is a great video btw, I agree entirely.
Before I respond, I'm a C1S4 player and can do all the crazy building. With that out of the way: 1. People used to build forts. It wasn't just some idea. Yes, people could be aggressive, but near the last few zones, it was common to see people camping fortresses. So that argument holds weight. 2. I think it's way too late to just be deleting turbo building. I wouldn't even want that at this point. 3. I am interested in how different the game would be now, if turbo building never existed. Honestly, I think that would've led to less need for AI bots and SBMM, because the skill gap would be much smaller. I also think Epic would've focused more on fun vehicles and meta shaking items, such as was the focus of Chapter 1. Basically, I think this would've led to a much more varied and fun experience. Fortnite often feels stagnant and repetitive these days. The meta in builds has been the same since the world cup days. The same build, edit, tag someone and push through their box crap for 6 years. The same lobbies that have at minimum 25 bots and all players near your skill level, which is boring.
I would think that if Fortnite never added Turbo building, the highest level of Fortnite combat would consist of assaulting your mouse to get the same result as with Turbo Building in the game now.
1. People were bad and being in a fort is camping and was super OP at the time. 2. They tried it in season X and yep, I and everyone else hated it. 3. Bad. It would suck lol. The comp scene would be very unimpressive and cheaters would be such a common problem due to autoclickers. Less need for ai/SBMM? There was never a need. It killed fortnite for me. Focused more on fun things? Nope. Broken items aren't fun. Reserve that for LTM's where you go in wanting chaos, there it is fun. Varied and Fun experience? How? How would spam clicking be more fun and less repetitive? The meta has NOT been the same since world cup. Not even close! Pushing someone doesn't take 6 years... that's a skill issue. 25 bots and players near your skill level... wouldn't of changed. EVERY game does this now, it isn't a fortnite thing.
Because they nerfed it way too late everyone got adjusted to it especially pros and thats why they hated it so much you dont see much people who played in s2 and s1 complain that it had no turbo building
ima be honest I love turbo building and what it's done, but for someone who doesn't really have all too much time to improve I'm not really able to adapt to the level players are today. I think the best solution to keep players who WANT building but don't want to get pieced to oblivion is to add a SEPERATE MODE where turbo building is removed, like no build. For people like me this would be perfect. I play builds most of the time since I enjoy building, I like being able to protect myself with these builds but I hate getting absolutely bodied by someone who grinded mechanics when I don't have the time to improve upon it, I love build fights but sometimes I'd just rather the game would feel alot more relaxed, so I go to no builds but find that I get killed even faster due to the limitations in non-item protection available. This would remove the need to add these overpowered counters to building as people could just go to that if they wanted, allowing them to potentially add more enjoyable things to the game, even if they didn't I believe it would cater quite well to people who want that sort of OG feel to their gameplay, or just a more relaxed mode than builds.
I used to think that removing turbo building would help the game in my eyes. But after this video is realized that it wouldn’t solve the deep rooted problems with the game. I miss the days when building was a defensive tool and not a offensive tool, but I don’t think those days will ever return. The closest we’ll ever get is using port-a-bunkers in zero build. But zero build also has its problems, mostly inventory management. I think zero build should have an extra inventory slot just for defensive/utility items.
You don’t hate Fortnite, you just love the game so much you want to see it be the best version it can be. I do not like people perceiving good criticism as hate there is a HUGE difference between the two.
I feel like if Fortnite added a proper tutorial mode for new players to learn how to build effectively and made the combine ltm from season x into a permanent mode, then it wouldn't be no such need for skill based matchmaking and Fortnite adding different overpowered items to the game such as the mechs, the avatar mythics, the moddable cars, the infinity blade, and several other things that makes it really easy for bad players to win over actual good players. it would be more fair and balanced which would make both sides happy and make newer players have an more effective way to get better at the game
Also turbo building didn’t completely create sweats it was Fortnite giving people playground mode so that they could practice building skyscrapers in 2 seconds everyday
@@somefatkid20801 it’s been 6 years since then, 2 if they never added turbo building the game honestly wouldn’t have been as popular, and 3 YOU HAVE ZERO BUILD PLAY THAT 😭
I dislike building in its current state for many reasons but removing turbo building is stupid. It's important for accessibility. The issues with building generally comes down to editing having zero cooldown and building generally not having any constant counter other than building. Any anti building tool gets nerfed because of complaints because of people not willing to adapt to a new playstyle
turbo building made fortnite more tryhard, thats a fact, im currently playing ezfn, a launcher where you can play season 4 from chapter 1, there is a slowed down turbo building and its so fun... Also skill based matchmaking helped in killing fortnite alongside all the fast edit mechanics. Thats only the start, when they added all the boring mechanics from chapter to chapter it became worse and worse. So indeed turbo building helped to kill fortnite, and there should be a separate game mode or something like that that has no turbo building
imo I think the answer is yes and no. def agree that turbo building is a good QOL feature and was a good addition but I think the game would have been better for having a slower placement speed when turbo building first got added (simmilar to how they tried nerfing it in seasons X maybe not as slow) the skill gap and building skills would probably still be good but i think the skill gap wouldnt be as big. epic trying to slow it down after years of getting used to the speed is just impossible u just cant take away something like that but if we never got it as fast in the first place we would have never known
Well, this was bound to happen. For so long now, EpicGames has tried many times to nerf building, like in Chapter 1: The SMGs, the nerf to turbo builds, and the Mechs. To the present, we have the new buff for cars plus car attachments, along with nitro. I've played many games over the years, and nerfing or tempering with the fundamental mechanics of any game will cause it to die. Fortnite is Fortnite, and the little Timmy and the heads at Epic will not understand that.
As for solutions to this issue: a proper tutorial for new players to build or no build, rather than just bot lobbies. A proper competitive-ranked mode away from standard pubs. No build, and builds have different loot pools to suit each mode and their playerbases.
Ping is the worst thing when it comes to turbo build because it doesn't matter who has more skill they can just take your wall that's why I didn't learn turbo build and found it lacking substance when every fight at the end of the day is who's fastest rather than aim or familiarity with the current item pool
The solution isn't as simple as removing turbo building, the issue is that both building and editing are way too fast for the average player, which is why we should have a game mode with a limit of structures that you can place in one second the same with editing which in my opinion would be a way better alternative than zero build which makes itself and normal br suffer from the fact that you can't make a map that would be good for both of these gamemodes this would create a barrier between the casual players who would be fine with having these functions limited and tryhards would leave the gamemode alone because of them. Ideally, this mode would be playable on the chapter 1 island that would rotate loot and map changes every couple weeks, so it wouldn't get stale
i think building is fine editing is the problem if you look at all the stupid clips of coked up kids or teens building like crazy it all revolves around editing so if they nerfed editing it would still allow for cool builds and holding boxes etc but you couldnt edit 25 builds instantly sure it may hurt getting out of towers if you cant spam through but the pros would out weigh the cons
I think its funny when people say that "X killed Fortnite," because its been in the top 5 most actively played games for pretty much its entire existence. Fortnite isn't dead, you've just outgrown it
w take. ive seen it a lot in the minecraft community as well. i think people just want to cling onto games, even when they dont enjoy them out of love for the game games arent meant to last forever. taking breaks when you arent enjoying them or dropping the game all together is often the right call.
@@MelkorTheCold ditto for the modern pokemon games for me. after not beating ultra sun, and not enjoying it, and not even finishing sword and shield (the first pokemon games i didnt complete since black 2), when scarlet and violet came out i just didnt get them, and considered my time with the pokemon series done until further notice. if a series isnt giving you what you want anymore, trying to broaden your horizons and try new games. might take a while, but you will find a new game or series you love. thats what i did, and i ended up trying persona 5 on a whim since it was on sale, and i adored it and became a strong SMT fan
@@dialga236 thats what I did, when I stopped enjoying Minecraft and Pokémon, I gradually moved on to ARK, Fortnite, and Jurassic World Evolution. I haven't been enjoyed ARK and JWE in the last year or so, so I'll likely move on to something else. Like its not difficult to do, but there's so many people in every fanbase who absolutely need to move on and find something else, but they refuse to do so, and instead complain about everything. Its not just games either, what like month a half ago, Star Wars The Acolyte got released, and like half the fanbase was finding every reason under the sun to complain about it. About the same time, Reload got released, which sparked the discussions over "Chapter 5 killed Fortnite!" and then The Center got released on ASA like a month earlier so the ARK playerbase was whining and it just. Gets tiresome to see all the toxicity and whining. Anyways, sorry for the rambling 🤣
I feel like even without Turbo Building, the community would still find giant work arounds, so even if someone hated Turbo Building somehow, and it was removed, it wouldn't matter. And even then, people like that should be playing Zero Build. this is a great video btw, I agree entirely.
Turbo building didn't shock wave the skill of players
But playground and creative did
Before I respond, I'm a C1S4 player and can do all the crazy building. With that out of the way:
1. People used to build forts. It wasn't just some idea. Yes, people could be aggressive, but near the last few zones, it was common to see people camping fortresses. So that argument holds weight.
2. I think it's way too late to just be deleting turbo building. I wouldn't even want that at this point.
3. I am interested in how different the game would be now, if turbo building never existed.
Honestly, I think that would've led to less need for AI bots and SBMM, because the skill gap would be much smaller.
I also think Epic would've focused more on fun vehicles and meta shaking items, such as was the focus of Chapter 1.
Basically, I think this would've led to a much more varied and fun experience. Fortnite often feels stagnant and repetitive these days.
The meta in builds has been the same since the world cup days. The same build, edit, tag someone and push through their box crap for 6 years.
The same lobbies that have at minimum 25 bots and all players near your skill level, which is boring.
I would think that if Fortnite never added Turbo building, the highest level of Fortnite combat would consist of assaulting your mouse to get the same result as with Turbo Building in the game now.
1. People were bad and being in a fort is camping and was super OP at the time.
2. They tried it in season X and yep, I and everyone else hated it.
3. Bad. It would suck lol. The comp scene would be very unimpressive and cheaters would be such a common problem due to autoclickers.
Less need for ai/SBMM? There was never a need. It killed fortnite for me.
Focused more on fun things? Nope. Broken items aren't fun. Reserve that for LTM's where you go in wanting chaos, there it is fun.
Varied and Fun experience? How? How would spam clicking be more fun and less repetitive?
The meta has NOT been the same since world cup. Not even close! Pushing someone doesn't take 6 years... that's a skill issue.
25 bots and players near your skill level... wouldn't of changed. EVERY game does this now, it isn't a fortnite thing.
If you like clicking PVP then play minecraft lol.
I still remember the last time they tried to remove turbo building in Season X and everyone was unhappy
Because they nerfed it way too late everyone got adjusted to it especially pros and thats why they hated it so much you dont see much people who played in s2 and s1 complain that it had no turbo building
@@somefatkid2080cause that was the beginning of Fortnite lol it was an improvement to building to make it feel less clunky
u deserve more views tbh, ur ideas are unique and the viewpoints u give is critical and on point, keep up ur amazing work m8
ima be honest I love turbo building and what it's done, but for someone who doesn't really have all too much time to improve I'm not really able to adapt to the level players are today. I think the best solution to keep players who WANT building but don't want to get pieced to oblivion is to add a SEPERATE MODE where turbo building is removed, like no build.
For people like me this would be perfect. I play builds most of the time since I enjoy building, I like being able to protect myself with these builds but I hate getting absolutely bodied by someone who grinded mechanics when I don't have the time to improve upon it, I love build fights but sometimes I'd just rather the game would feel alot more relaxed, so I go to no builds but find that I get killed even faster due to the limitations in non-item protection available.
This would remove the need to add these overpowered counters to building as people could just go to that if they wanted, allowing them to potentially add more enjoyable things to the game, even if they didn't I believe it would cater quite well to people who want that sort of OG feel to their gameplay, or just a more relaxed mode than builds.
I used to think that removing turbo building would help the game in my eyes. But after this video is realized that it wouldn’t solve the deep rooted problems with the game. I miss the days when building was a defensive tool and not a offensive tool, but I don’t think those days will ever return. The closest we’ll ever get is using port-a-bunkers in zero build. But zero build also has its problems, mostly inventory management. I think zero build should have an extra inventory slot just for defensive/utility items.
You don’t hate Fortnite, you just love the game so much you want to see it be the best version it can be. I do not like people perceiving good criticism as hate there is a HUGE difference between the two.
I feel like if Fortnite added a proper tutorial mode for new players to learn how to build effectively and made the combine ltm from season x into a permanent mode, then it wouldn't be no such need for skill based matchmaking and Fortnite adding different overpowered items to the game such as the mechs, the avatar mythics, the moddable cars, the infinity blade, and several other things that makes it really easy for bad players to win over actual good players. it would be more fair and balanced which would make both sides happy and make newer players have an more effective way to get better at the game
ngl I remember a little box was good enough
Also turbo building didn’t completely create sweats it was Fortnite giving people playground mode so that they could practice building skyscrapers in 2 seconds everyday
You lost me at “it actually saved it”
Nah he’s right
Watch the video
he is right, just because you are bad a building does not mean everyone else needs to suck at it as well.
@@raider4341 Hes not right though hes right about the macros but theres so much better solutions then just turbo building
@@somefatkid20801 it’s been 6 years since then, 2 if they never added turbo building the game honestly wouldn’t have been as popular, and 3 YOU HAVE ZERO BUILD PLAY THAT 😭
I dislike building in its current state for many reasons but removing turbo building is stupid. It's important for accessibility. The issues with building generally comes down to editing having zero cooldown and building generally not having any constant counter other than building. Any anti building tool gets nerfed because of complaints because of people not willing to adapt to a new playstyle
Chapter 5 killed fortnite.
I agree 👍
No. It better than chapter 4 and better then some chapter 1 seasons
It is on par with Chapter 1 tbh
Reload:
can't wait for when yall still say this in chapter 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10
turbo building made fortnite more tryhard, thats a fact, im currently playing ezfn, a launcher where you can play season 4 from chapter 1, there is a slowed down turbo building and its so fun...
Also skill based matchmaking helped in killing fortnite alongside all the fast edit mechanics.
Thats only the start, when they added all the boring mechanics from chapter to chapter it became worse and worse.
So indeed turbo building helped to kill fortnite, and there should be a separate game mode or something like that that has no turbo building
imo I think the answer is yes and no. def agree that turbo building is a good QOL feature and was a good addition but I think the game would have been better for having a slower placement speed when turbo building first got added (simmilar to how they tried nerfing it in seasons X maybe not as slow) the skill gap and building skills would probably still be good but i think the skill gap wouldnt be as big. epic trying to slow it down after years of getting used to the speed is just impossible u just cant take away something like that but if we never got it as fast in the first place we would have never known
Well, this was bound to happen. For so long now, EpicGames has tried many times to nerf building, like in Chapter 1: The SMGs, the nerf to turbo builds, and the Mechs. To the present, we have the new buff for cars plus car attachments, along with nitro.
I've played many games over the years, and nerfing or tempering with the fundamental mechanics of any game will cause it to die.
Fortnite is Fortnite, and the little Timmy and the heads at Epic will not understand that.
As for solutions to this issue: a proper tutorial for new players to build or no build, rather than just bot lobbies. A proper competitive-ranked mode away from standard pubs. No build, and builds have different loot pools to suit each mode and their playerbases.
Ping is the worst thing when it comes to turbo build because it doesn't matter who has more skill they can just take your wall that's why I didn't learn turbo build and found it lacking substance when every fight at the end of the day is who's fastest rather than aim or familiarity with the current item pool
The solution isn't as simple as removing turbo building, the issue is that both building and editing are way too fast for the average player, which is why we should have a game mode with a limit of structures that you can place in one second the same with editing which in my opinion would be a way better alternative than zero build which makes itself and normal br suffer from the fact that you can't make a map that would be good for both of these gamemodes this would create a barrier between the casual players who would be fine with having these functions limited and tryhards would leave the gamemode alone because of them. Ideally, this mode would be playable on the chapter 1 island that would rotate loot and map changes every couple weeks, so it wouldn't get stale
another great video
amazing video, if you would hire a really good editor these videos would be even better ngl
its a skill gap, fortnite would be fixed if there was a decent ranked system
Romans 10:9 "If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved."
No. It didn't. (When's the Ch.3 S.2 review coming lol)
Don’t worry donut it’s coming soon…
@@Mujy46 yippe!
i think building is fine editing is the problem if you look at all the stupid clips of coked up kids or teens building like crazy it all revolves around editing so if they nerfed editing it would still allow for cool builds and holding boxes etc but you couldnt edit 25 builds instantly sure it may hurt getting out of towers if you cant spam through but the pros would out weigh the cons
No it did not
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I think its funny when people say that "X killed Fortnite," because its been in the top 5 most actively played games for pretty much its entire existence.
Fortnite isn't dead, you've just outgrown it
w take. ive seen it a lot in the minecraft community as well. i think people just want to cling onto games, even when they dont enjoy them out of love for the game
games arent meant to last forever. taking breaks when you arent enjoying them or dropping the game all together is often the right call.
@@dialga236 exactly! Theres a reason I don't play the newer Pokémon games, and why I haven't picked up the old ones in ages.
@@MelkorTheCold ditto for the modern pokemon games for me. after not beating ultra sun, and not enjoying it, and not even finishing sword and shield (the first pokemon games i didnt complete since black 2), when scarlet and violet came out i just didnt get them, and considered my time with the pokemon series done until further notice.
if a series isnt giving you what you want anymore, trying to broaden your horizons and try new games. might take a while, but you will find a new game or series you love. thats what i did, and i ended up trying persona 5 on a whim since it was on sale, and i adored it and became a strong SMT fan
@@dialga236 thats what I did, when I stopped enjoying Minecraft and Pokémon, I gradually moved on to ARK, Fortnite, and Jurassic World Evolution. I haven't been enjoyed ARK and JWE in the last year or so, so I'll likely move on to something else.
Like its not difficult to do, but there's so many people in every fanbase who absolutely need to move on and find something else, but they refuse to do so, and instead complain about everything.
Its not just games either, what like month a half ago, Star Wars The Acolyte got released, and like half the fanbase was finding every reason under the sun to complain about it. About the same time, Reload got released, which sparked the discussions over "Chapter 5 killed Fortnite!" and then The Center got released on ASA like a month earlier so the ARK playerbase was whining and it just. Gets tiresome to see all the toxicity and whining.
Anyways, sorry for the rambling 🤣
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