If a goat has blood in her milk, it doesn't necessarily mean she has mastitis. I had a goat get rammed in her udder by a shorter but very sturdy goat and she had blood in her milk for 3 days. I've also caught a 9 month old buck aggressively nursing a first freshener out in the pasture. She didn't know what the heck to do. And yeah, she had blood in her milk for a few days.
thesupermom1975 Yes, if she has never had blood in her milk before or I know she had an accident mastitis might not be the cause. In my experience if there is blood/clotted/smelly milk then she does have mastitis and if she gets it once she will get it again...I just don't keep goats like that and sell them to someone who is just feeding calves because I don't want her genes in my herd or her milk in my children's bellies.
I got mastitis with my first child and yet did not get it with my others. I've had plenty of goats who have had mastitis because the kid(s) either didn't latch on or she didn't let them and the doe started into mastitis but once she had another kid and became a more experienced mother, they didn't have mastitis on the further kiddings. I know this because I do California Mastitis Tests on them. I believe there is a lot for you to learn about goats. Mastitis is an infection...it in no way affects their "GENES" as you say. Try not to put mis-information out there.
thesupermom1975 thank you for the accurate info...my goat just had her first....and the baby has nursed one side so much her teat is sore and wont let her nurse that side for more than a few sips at a time...im going to put balm on it and see if she will let me milk it out in a couple hours
I hope you have a stanchion. If not, you need to build one. You can tie her to the fence with her body being parallel to the fence. If you have to do it this way, she will likely be a bit stompy and panic a little. Once she realizes you're giving her relief from her milk, she will become more comfortable with this process and calm down. This usually takes 3-4 days. I don't fool with feed store bottles for goat and sheep (black nipples). And especially don't spend money on the big bottles with reddish orange nipples...those are for cattle. Just go to the dollar store and get a regular baby bottle for humans and grab some spare nipples. Cut an "X" in the nipple so milk comes out faster (not pouring out but faster than the tiny hole that comes in it). If you don't have a milk bucket, this will save you some time/money hunting one down and paying for it: get a big container like a really large butter bowl (Country Crock, et al) or a big cookie dough bowl (we shop at Sam's). Now find an old, super worn out t-shirt and cut out a square to fit over said bowl. Get a rubber band and afix the scrap of material to the bowl. Leave a little air gap at the edge of the material and the rubber band so the milk doesn't have to compete with air to get in the bowl. Milk the goat into the bowl and TA-DAHHH! The milk is already filtered and ready to be dumped into your baby bottle. Once she develops her bag, further babies will be able to nurse better from her. If you need further detail, I will be happy to provide. The main thing is to get that milk out of the goat before she gets mastitis, her other teat becomes under-developed, or the baby goes hungry. I adopted a goat from a rescue that has crazy looking teats...one hangs normally, the other dang near drags the ground because one teat produces more than the other so naturally all the babies want to nurse from the one with the milk and the teat gets chewed on by so many baby teeth that we have to keep a very close eye on it to be sure she doesn't get injured or infection.
the directions say to use "FOOD GRADE OIL" not 5 weight motor oil! Mastitis is not hereditary, it is a direct result of a goats health and well being. If you just "SELL because you dont want to deal with it, what are you really selling as well as message?" Goats can go into mastitis due to many issues, a hard long delivery, illness, poor milking etc.
The instructions on mine specify that 5 weight motor oil or sewing machine oil will work. The oil does not come in contact with the food, since it is encase and sealed in the motor housing. I followed the instructions when I assembled my separator. If yours says something different follow those instructions. I have raised goats for 23 years...and have only experienced mastitis with 3 of my goats. I have owned about 75 goats over that period. So 3 out of 75 is pretty good and those 3 does repeatedly had mastitis before we culled them from our herds. Whether it is genes or the health of the individual animal, some animals are more prone to it than others and I do not want those animals in my herd. I don't use penicillin, or other antibiotics because their own natural immune system should be able to keep them in good health. If good feed and sunshine and love can't keep them in top condition I don't need to propogate those traits by dumping unhealthy lines onto other who I sell to either.
I sell defective animals to those using them for non-human consumption (like soap or lotion) or as nurse-animals, also telling owners that the animals gets mastitis. We had one that had blood in her milk so that it tasted bad...I guess I could have put her down but sold her to someone who wanted to raise calves.
@@dirtpatcheaven you are barely 23 years old now. Calling bullshit on that. Food grade oil would be best when working with a machine that is meant for food. Chinese don't care what you use and that's likely where you bought that machine.
and this is done every day after milking your goat? How much time does this take per goat?we are having our cow breed so later in summer we should start getting milk I assume this works with all milk? thanks for the info.
Yes, will work on all milk. It must be passed through while still warm. The separator part of the procedure takes about 10 minutes. I only run once a day, we don't like the blue milk left after the cream is off so we leave the other milking whole. Usually about 2 gallons a day, so two quarts of cream a day or a pound and a half of butter a week. Milking 2 goats that is the yield.
For anyone else wondering the same thing... Cow's milk doesn't need assistance like goats milk. Cow milk will separate easily on it's own. Goat's milk takes days to start separating. So you can see what the deal is with the separator.
The brand of this cream separator is Penzmach R3-OPS. It doesn't matter if you pasteurize it before or after. If you need more details about cream separator operation check our article - milkyday.com/blog/2018/09/27/milk-separator-how-it-works/
dirtpatcheaven Thank you for taking the time to explain. We really enjoy your videos. We're just getting started and have gotten a lot of good ideas from you.
@@hamilton3475 You treat mastitis as an infection. Intra mammary injections in addition to an antibiotic are the best method. We have had some success in feeding back the milk from the teat side with mastitis
so many people dont recommend trying to separate goat milk/cream with a cream separator. I would so much like to separate my goat milk so i can use the cream. Do you still use your separator and find that it works for you?
We sell these units at www slavicbeauty net I'll be happy to answer any questions about these units, please contact me should you have any. We suggest to use 3 in 1 lightweight general purpose oil, quantity 1/2 cup Another great video review, using goat milk: Cream Separator 50L/H Manual : Review
Thanks for the useful video. I just got mine from amazon, but it doesn't work. skim milk comes out of the first hose, but not cream comes out of the second one, not even a single drop. Some milk (not cream) comes out of the slot on the unit though. Do you have any idea what's wrong with it?
Please make sure you assembled the top bowl properly, watch how to do that here - th-cam.com/video/iifaCE7014o/w-d-xo.html. If you did everything right and it didn't help, the reason could be the cream separator of bad quality.
Thanks for this video. I think you should have practiced putting the equipment together a bit before making a video and maybe had some milk to demonstrate if it would work. I would give it three of five stars.
Just trying to show what it looks like in real life, with all the unexpected malfunctions. Never goes together the same way as in the movies (or advertisements). I did make another video for it being in use. All of my videos are a little wonky because they are 'hands on' and I only have 2 hands.
That makes sense. I will say if it is that difficult to put together I probably don't want one. I don't want to have to read the directions every time to get it together. I did like the video, but thought I was going to see you make goat butter using the cream separator. Thanks for the video and the reply
Yes, it is that complicated. I dont have to read the instructions at all besides the first few times but it is one more step to get through in the mornings when I milk.I like mine but in summer when the cream is highest is also when I am busiest, so it kinda cancels things out a bit. With nigerian dwarfs it is more worthwhile since there is a lot higher milkfat in their milk. Admittedly I have been too busy to use it more than once this year because too much to do in the mornings. If I had a permanent place to fix the motor to so that I don't also have to dismantle it off of a cutting board every time that would make a HUGE difference.
"Goat Butter Using a Cream Separator". Where's the Butter? What does assembling and disassembling have to do with making goat butter? Awful video. wasted 15 minutes of my life.
thanks you for your hard work!
i can tell you are very intelligent just from this video and how you describe things... This video was awesome
Thank you!
If a goat has blood in her milk, it doesn't necessarily mean she has mastitis. I had a goat get rammed in her udder by a shorter but very sturdy goat and she had blood in her milk for 3 days. I've also caught a 9 month old buck aggressively nursing a first freshener out in the pasture. She didn't know what the heck to do. And yeah, she had blood in her milk for a few days.
thesupermom1975 Yes, if she has never had blood in her milk before or I know she had an accident mastitis might not be the cause. In my experience if there is blood/clotted/smelly milk then she does have mastitis and if she gets it once she will get it again...I just don't keep goats like that and sell them to someone who is just feeding calves because I don't want her genes in my herd or her milk in my children's bellies.
I got mastitis with my first child and yet did not get it with my others. I've had plenty of goats who have had mastitis because the kid(s) either didn't latch on or she didn't let them and the doe started into mastitis but once she had another kid and became a more experienced mother, they didn't have mastitis on the further kiddings. I know this because I do California Mastitis Tests on them. I believe there is a lot for you to learn about goats. Mastitis is an infection...it in no way affects their "GENES" as you say. Try not to put mis-information out there.
thesupermom1975 thank you for the accurate info...my goat just had her first....and the baby has nursed one side so much her teat is sore and wont let her nurse that side for more than a few sips at a time...im going to put balm on it and see if she will let me milk it out in a couple hours
I hope you have a stanchion. If not, you need to build one. You can tie her to the fence with her body being parallel to the fence. If you have to do it this way, she will likely be a bit stompy and panic a little. Once she realizes you're giving her relief from her milk, she will become more comfortable with this process and calm down. This usually takes 3-4 days. I don't fool with feed store bottles for goat and sheep (black nipples). And especially don't spend money on the big bottles with reddish orange nipples...those are for cattle. Just go to the dollar store and get a regular baby bottle for humans and grab some spare nipples. Cut an "X" in the nipple so milk comes out faster (not pouring out but faster than the tiny hole that comes in it). If you don't have a milk bucket, this will save you some time/money hunting one down and paying for it: get a big container like a really large butter bowl (Country Crock, et al) or a big cookie dough bowl (we shop at Sam's). Now find an old, super worn out t-shirt and cut out a square to fit over said bowl. Get a rubber band and afix the scrap of material to the bowl. Leave a little air gap at the edge of the material and the rubber band so the milk doesn't have to compete with air to get in the bowl. Milk the goat into the bowl and TA-DAHHH! The milk is already filtered and ready to be dumped into your baby bottle. Once she develops her bag, further babies will be able to nurse better from her. If you need further detail, I will be happy to provide. The main thing is to get that milk out of the goat before she gets mastitis, her other teat becomes under-developed, or the baby goes hungry. I adopted a goat from a rescue that has crazy looking teats...one hangs normally, the other dang near drags the ground because one teat produces more than the other so naturally all the babies want to nurse from the one with the milk and the teat gets chewed on by so many baby teeth that we have to keep a very close eye on it to be sure she doesn't get injured or infection.
thesupermom1975 I totally agree. Good explanation.
wow! great video!
Do not use motor oil.
Vinegar does not treat mastitis.
Did she really say vinegar? Holy goat
the directions say to use "FOOD GRADE OIL" not 5 weight motor oil! Mastitis is not hereditary, it is a direct result of a goats health and well being. If you just "SELL because you dont want to deal with it, what are you really selling as well as message?" Goats can go into mastitis due to many issues, a hard long delivery, illness, poor milking etc.
The instructions on mine specify that 5 weight motor oil or sewing machine oil will work. The oil does not come in contact with the food, since it is encase and sealed in the motor housing. I followed the instructions when I assembled my separator. If yours says something different follow those instructions.
I have raised goats for 23 years...and have only experienced mastitis with 3 of my goats. I have owned about 75 goats over that period. So 3 out of 75 is pretty good and those 3 does repeatedly had mastitis before we culled them from our herds. Whether it is genes or the health of the individual animal, some animals are more prone to it than others and I do not want those animals in my herd. I don't use penicillin, or other antibiotics because their own natural immune system should be able to keep them in good health. If good feed and sunshine and love can't keep them in top condition I don't need to propogate those traits by dumping unhealthy lines onto other who I sell to either.
I sell defective animals to those using them for non-human consumption (like soap or lotion) or as nurse-animals, also telling owners that the animals gets mastitis. We had one that had blood in her milk so that it tasted bad...I guess I could have put her down but sold her to someone who wanted to raise calves.
dirtpatcheaven www.aces.edu/pubs/docs/U/UNP-0102/
@@dirtpatcheaven you are barely 23 years old now. Calling bullshit on that. Food grade oil would be best when working with a machine that is meant for food. Chinese don't care what you use and that's likely where you bought that machine.
and this is done every day after milking your goat? How much time does this take per goat?we are having our cow breed so later in summer we should start getting milk I assume this works with all milk? thanks for the info.
Yes, will work on all milk. It must be passed through while still warm. The separator part of the procedure takes about 10 minutes. I only run once a day, we don't like the blue milk left after the cream is off so we leave the other milking whole. Usually about 2 gallons a day, so two quarts of cream a day or a pound and a half of butter a week. Milking 2 goats that is the yield.
thats not so bad then.. thank you..
For anyone else wondering the same thing... Cow's milk doesn't need assistance like goats milk. Cow milk will separate easily on it's own. Goat's milk takes days to start separating. So you can see what the deal is with the separator.
What brand is your separator? And do you pasteurized your milk? If so is it before separating or after?
The brand of this cream separator is Penzmach R3-OPS. It doesn't matter if you pasteurize it before or after. If you need more details about cream separator operation check our article - milkyday.com/blog/2018/09/27/milk-separator-how-it-works/
Can you tell me how you guys treat mastitis?
dirtpatcheaven Thank you for taking the time to explain. We really enjoy your videos. We're just getting started and have gotten a lot of good ideas from you.
@@dirtpatcheaven bullshit
@@hamilton3475 You treat mastitis as an infection. Intra mammary injections in addition to an antibiotic are the best method. We have had some success in feeding back the milk from the teat side with mastitis
so many people dont recommend trying to separate goat milk/cream with a cream separator. I would so much like to separate my goat milk so i can use the cream. Do you still use your separator and find that it works for you?
Sandra Wool Yes, it works very well. The only problem for us is finding break that we can eat...so we freeze our butter after making it.
forgive me, but you are very cute! Ty, for the vid.
Shawn Hart Glad you liked it! Hope it helped!
We sell these units at www slavicbeauty net I'll be happy to answer any questions about these units, please contact me should you have any. We suggest to use 3 in 1 lightweight general purpose oil, quantity 1/2 cup
Another great video review, using goat milk: Cream Separator 50L/H Manual : Review
Thanks for the useful video.
I just got mine from amazon, but it doesn't work. skim milk comes out of the first hose, but not cream comes out of the second one, not even a single drop. Some milk (not cream) comes out of the slot on the unit though.
Do you have any idea what's wrong with it?
No she will not have a clue Pooya
Please make sure you assembled the top bowl properly, watch how to do that here - th-cam.com/video/iifaCE7014o/w-d-xo.html. If you did everything right and it didn't help, the reason could be the cream separator of bad quality.
How much Goat cream do you need to get 1 lb of butter?
The normal outcome of butter from milk is about 4%.
Thanks for this video. I think you should have practiced putting the equipment together a bit before making a video and maybe had some milk to demonstrate if it would work. I would give it three of five stars.
Just trying to show what it looks like in real life, with all the unexpected malfunctions. Never goes together the same way as in the movies (or advertisements). I did make another video for it being in use. All of my videos are a little wonky because they are 'hands on' and I only have 2 hands.
That makes sense. I will say if it is that difficult to put together I probably don't want one. I don't want to have to read the directions every time to get it together. I did like the video, but thought I was going to see you make goat butter using the cream separator. Thanks for the video and the reply
Yes, it is that complicated. I dont have to read the instructions at all besides the first few times but it is one more step to get through in the mornings when I milk.I like mine but in summer when the cream is highest is also when I am busiest, so it kinda cancels things out a bit. With nigerian dwarfs it is more worthwhile since there is a lot higher milkfat in their milk. Admittedly I have been too busy to use it more than once this year because too much to do in the mornings. If I had a permanent place to fix the motor to so that I don't also have to dismantle it off of a cutting board every time that would make a HUGE difference.
dirtpatcheaven You did just fine. Everyone's a critic :)
@@sabrinah6968 that is what comments are for or maybe you did not realize that.
"Goat Butter Using a Cream Separator". Where's the Butter?
What does assembling and disassembling have to do with making goat butter? Awful video. wasted 15 minutes of my life.
With the help of cream separator, you can get cream and make butter from it using blender or butter churn.