Top Gear's James May on the Argentina Number Plate Controversy
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- Speaking for the first time about the controversy surrounding the Top Gear number plate controversy, James May talks to Christian O'Connell on Absolute Radio, and defends the rest of the Top Gear team (including Jeremy Clarkson and Richard Hammond) over what happened in Argentina.
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I saw a Porsche with a metal "911" badge in New York once.. Sickening!
this should've been their closing argument. end of discussion in 2 seconds
Ikr, very insensitive. Smh..
I once saw a car driving around with 911 painted all over it. It had flashy lights and everything. Disgusting
It’s the model of the car🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ was out before the disaster
ixRoseツ its sarcasm dummy
The interview was arrogant, impatient and rude. He didn’t acknowledge James’ responses and just continued to just repeat the point
ikr How many times can you say "Surely you should have caught that" in an interview
The interviewer is a profoundly mentally challenged sod it's a known fact
rightfully so. you can clearly see May's lying when the reporter presses on all of that being a stunt. his facial expression gives it all.
@@mautrindade Pretty sure that's his "getting tired of this shit" face
@Mauricio Trindade, do you actually believe that or do you _want to_ believe that.
The lack of a '?' was deliberate given it was rhetorical question. ;)
Given how nonsensical those “statistics” were, JM’s explanation of how the stats actually work was very impressive.
Once you apply condicional probability the world changes view
the presenter on this video, and ALOT more on the other video talking about the crew just trys to make james, jeremy and richard sound as bad as possible. the 3 got a flight to buenos aries and before james could talk about how they were looking for possible routes nad even considering helicopters the presenter started talking about how they were probably taking first class flights back, so slimy.
@@carrot5610 whats wrong with 1st class flights? they probably traveled in 1st class anyway to be honest
@@ruiferreia1458 thats not the issue with it, the issue is the radio presenter immediately trying to insinuate that they dont care about their crew and just pissed off home while the crew had to spend days trying to get out the country on their own with alot of equipment. he probably said 1st class flights cus they are very expensive and very few people can afford them, to make it sound worse to the public.
edit: james also refutes that they went in first class
How? The chance of getting that particular number plate was 1/13 million. The chance of getting any other number plate was 12.999.999/13 million
Interviewer after being educated on how ALL licence plates have the same odds of being unique: "But this one was particularly unique." Kudos to James for keeping his cool in the face of such bone-headedness.
He handled the questions well yes but it still doesn't seem all that convincing. Not one of them thought it could spark controversy? And how the numbers and the letters perfectly represent a part of that controversy is mind boggling. It's not 1982 but it's 982 it's not Falkland but it's FLK. Obv may is not gonna come out and admit that it was a joke, they have to bring in some sort of argument, in this case may did well but it still isn't convincing enough.
Oh please. May is lying if you believe that JC didn’t choose that license plate for exactly the reason why they were kicked out of Argentina you are either a fool or lying to yourself.
The losing lottery tickets all across the country every week have numbers which are just as improbable as the winning numbers. And the winning numbers are _not_ "particularly unique". As I always say to my friend at work, who wastes money on the lottery every week, "If your intuition does not allow you to play the numbers 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 then you shouldn't be playing the lottery".
Same thing here.
@@ashwinraphael lets be honest, if you were with them on that trip you wouldnt notice the number plate either. its just now that its been pointed out in such a way that everyone is saying "its obvious"
Okay.... But isn't this the show that also pissed people off for driving around a car with Hitler's number plate?
Care to calculate the odds of the same scenario happening twice?
James is way more intelligent than these guys
As a American, putting the number plate that has the number 982 and the letters FLK on the rare car is stupid
@@alexcope8142 he didn't put it though
that's why he's a world-class presenter and entertainer and nobody even knows these two nobodies
@@alexcope8142 as an American, you should be smart enough to know you cant change the number-plates
@@bisken6547 imagine a number plate 911 SEP on a American car
"Publicity stunt" Ah yes Top Gear the unknown/underrated show that needed publicity
They would never have gone to, say, America to offend people or cause trouble for publicity
robert ely that was season 6 when top gear was a pokey little motoring show in Britain. Patagonia special was right after season 21 which was arguably the most popular season of top gear at that time.
Fred Bloggs if them being controversial is a publicity stunt then yeah sure ur right
You guys comment while have intention of drawing attention thus publicity stunt.
Whats wrong having a tv programme that draws attention.
J,R,J trios are known for their controversy, no need to hide that fact.
But this matter is idiotic.
Falkland war this and that.
Fuck it, i'm an indonesian, my country is a poor one and have experienced two different kind of colonization.
Netherland for 350 years and Japanese for 3,5 years.
But what? We never hold our grudges to Japan and Dutches.
We just wanted Peace.
We imported Japanese product, which is mainly cars.
We dont care if the number plate contain such references to 353,5 years of struggle.
You all know what that mean?
We see about the future, a peaceful one.
These idiotic argentinians, they're stupidly blockheaded for lust over vengeance.
Dont you guys dare to talk to me about experience of war. We do, and we suffer, and we are the main point of Second World War.
But we dont give a crap of any references.
I remember when this happened, it was hysterical, it took me all of two minutes online to find out that reg had been on the 928 from first registration, and anyone who's watched Jeremy Clarkson more than once will know of his love of the 928 and the reasons why. It never surprised me that the very tenuous link on the plate was overlooked, unless you were looking for a reason to kick something off you would never even notice it.
Those radio hosts were muppets repeatedly trying to get James May to say something they could sensationalise, he owned them by just sticking to the facts and the simple. Truth
yup... but we Argentinians are a bunch of snowflakes that believe we are better than the whole world.... we can mock anybody... but god forbbid people mock us, no sir!!
Agreed. The reason it was believable is because Clarkson is a lunatic anarchist, and clearly is capable of such a thing 😁
If the plate had the 8 and the 2 flipped, that would have been kinda cool, and (maybe) less prone to people having a problem with it, but then again, those veterans were obviously LOOKING for a reason to protest top gear BECAUSE they're British. It's a scape goat.
Nonsense,May is lying through his teeth,this is typical of the stupid purile schoolboy humor of this trio of idiots.
the argentine police found another license plate in the 928 which means the tg team definetly knew about the original license plate looking a bit dodgy considering where they were going.
James May is awesome. No drama, just rational thinking and an excellent way of explaining the situation. Thumbs up to this man.
Rationally explain why he calls Mexicans lazy and flatulent people
May: “we wouldn’t make fun of a country that has a sensitive history”
Clarkson: “A SATNAV THAT ONLY GOES TO POLAND”
german satnav ...
or vw shiroko from berlin to warshav with one tank
You don’t get to throw the world into chaos on 2 separate occasions 35 years from each other and not have it brought up
As a Pole the "satnav that only goes to Poland" joke was bloody brilliant.
@@Mazurecki56 as a german I was already packing.
James is such a class act.
Love your videos man!
Great to find you here as well :)
Along with his co-hosts. They may act silly but they are reserved when needed.
@Richard Kendrick Morally dubious.
CLARKSOOOON
except for this lie I suppose.
That was like watching a person shouting at a waterfall to start flowing upwards, props to James for not having any of their crap and actually explaining why the interviewer was wrong, what's great too is James is so polite and calm when you know they were hoping for him to start shouting
Coincidence or deliberate, nothing will EVER justify the behavior of the people who decided to attack the trio and their crew. If they felt offended by it (being quite frankly the most flimsy excuse to rile up a mob and attack a group of people which just goes to show how horrible they really are) they could complain, they could throw insults, they could even protest, but immediately resorting to violence? They immediately lose any level of sympathy, at least from me.
Some of these people lost friends and family in the war though
@@sendformilo620 probably because they were throwing rocks lol
@@sendformilo620 and 100% of those people were low IQ dipshits
@@sendformilo620 a war that they started for stupid reasons.
@@sendformilo620 They started the war. They had a couple hundred more dead and about a thousand more wounded than us... They are hardly the only victims fella. They still bang on about "las malvinas" today and reckon it belongs to them, they care far too much for those islands when the islands don't care for them. They've (Falklanders) been asked previously if they'd prefer Argentine governance over the UK and they've refused it. Their national football team even promotes the idea (a 2014 banner comes to mind) that they are rightful owners of the islands. If they're upset it's because they did it to themselves. Pitying the Argentines in a war they started 40 years ago that they still can't get over is pathetic.
Captain slow on the track, but quick witted in an interview. I love how intelligent and poised he can be...until Jeremy and Richard rile him up! Can't wait for The Grand Tour!
Christian Alfredo Schneider to be fair, away from the cameras they're all intellegent people
hes actually an incredibly good driver lol
PALMERZ27 An enthousiastic dune racer as well haha
that's the way it is with all non-American celebrity
@@okamivolgan you must really love the smell of your own shit..
FYI: the fastest lap was recorded by a celeb at top gear, was Matt leBlanc, an American...
Did you do it purpose?
“No”
End of discussion
he is lying
@@policero7371 No, you dont like the truth.
@@policero7371 how? And why? He has no reason and he has no way of choosing a licence plate
@@policero7371 you realise the car used during filming was registered with that exact license plate in May 1991.
You suggesting Top Gear traveled back in time 20 years to put a plate onto a specific car which they would then use for this special? - or you going to acknowledge that Argentinians are not a population with the most screwed in lightbulbs
@@Garfie489 I agree with the fact that they d8dnt intent to use a car because the plate would get them in trouble but you cant technically find out when a plate was put on a car... my cars a 2010 but i got a private reg last year and still says registered in 2010
Wow. He shut them down at every point. Well said James.
I just love the fact that May has been wearing that exact sweater in one of the TG shows.
Just shows what a down to earth person he is, actually having a normal wardrobe despite being worth several millions.
No way! I didn’t know you could wear clothes multiple times, this could save me a lot of money!
"Was it for publicity? a PR stunt?"
A PR stunt. For the most watched show in the world. nah.
I kinda wanted May to say "why would we need to do a publicity stunt?"
*in the world*
Of course !!!
@@alphasierra. same, why would they need it? Every single human has seen this show.
@@marcin959 Are you are being sarcastic? (I can't tell)
The car's number plate was "H982 FKL". 982 is neither 82 nor 1982.
And FKL means nothing to argentinians. They call those islands "Malvinas".
It's just pareidolia. Like seeing a face in the clouds. If you want to find meaning in a random number/letter combination, you'll find it.
What a lovely word
It´s exactly like May says: people see what they WANT to see
982 may well be taken as a reference to the year of the war
(F)al(KL)and is how the british and all non-latin languages call the Islands and may well be taken as a direct provocation, because ofc argentinians know how the english call them.
But again, people see what they want to see and in other parts of Argentina where they have been through (Bariloche, etc.) no one noticed... or at least, they didn´t, ehem, "complain" about it.
@@mark01arg19 you are confusing me. What is this?
Are you joking? It clearly points to 1982 Falklands. If my registration described me it'd say B1G C0CK, because I'm blessed with a lot of meat betwixt my legs. But you're saying that if anyone reads anything in my reg they're paranoid?
@@Whatsitallabaaat yes.
I'm argentinean and, if more people in my country (and the rest of the world) had May's finesse and class, everything will be better. We have such a breath-taking landscape, and all ended up like this...makes me sad.
well, man... looking at how britain and british (particularly english) people performed through history - i wouldn't believe a word they say, especially when they're dealing with other countries and peoples..
@@gibsonmemphis7675 what the fuck lol
Don't worry, we'll soon be handing out Trident Missiles like Oprah Winfrey.
@@gibsonmemphis7675 oooooh saucer of milk for Gibson, miaow 🤣
@@aldozilli1293 I know right lol, telling people how they should feel about events that happened in their own country.
I think another point that needs to be made is that British number plates have the year of registration on them, so for an older car to bare the same year as the Falkland War is actually not that surprising.
As a side note, you can also claim that FLK, FLN, FLD, FND, FKD, FND, FKN etc. all would be perceived as referencing the Falklands War so the three letter abbreviation should not be that shocking.
EDIT: Comment below this is correct, year of registration was only introduced after 2001
True mate but only on modern plates registered after 2001 does it have clear indication when it was registered, not on jezzas car though he has an older number plate style used before the change to the plate we see now, would be H reg in this case/style of plate, would be 1990 I believe
The licence plate means nothing unless you want it to
Just like the n word or swearing, on the surface it seems bad but so many white people will get offended if someone says the n word even though it means nothing to them, it’s only offensive because they make it offensive.
you're saying that because thats what they just said here.
it is a HUGE coincidence that both the numbers and letters matched. 982 (instead of 1982) and fkl for falklands. if they were in search of a numberplate to match the falklands war they couldn't get more accurate... theyre never going to find "1982 FALKLANDS WAR" as a numberplate. i would actually imagine that is the closest representation of 1982 falklands out of all the number plates in circulation.
@@JC-ko1bp coincidences do exist, the porsche with this plate was one of two cars Jeremy could've chosen, and of the two that one's the only one that worked properly, not only that, the car itself was special to him, so yes, it's a coincidence, you only want to see things for the sake of getting mad.
@@F0XHunter im not mad. i find it funny.
i know exactly what Top Gear is like. this is the exact thing they take the piss out of. they mention WW2 all the time to the Germans. they call the Australians criminals all the time.
and obviously if they were going to Argentina, the 1 thing id expect Top Gear to mention is the Falklands. id be hugely surprised if they didnt.
they have tonnes of researchers doing these challenges, its a TV show its all fake. all the gags are preplanned. so id imagine they thought, we're going to Argentina, lets find a numberplate that represents the Falklands so we can make a gag about it. lets look for a porsche 982 as it was in 1982.... looked through every one and found 982 FKL and just went and bought it. they have an unlimited budget they can offer the owner huge money.
then they base the show around that, make the challenge about buying old cars.
if you think its all real where they give jeremy, richard and may £5000 to go out themselves and buy an old car you're an idiot. the producers buy the cars. and set it all up, with the 3 lads help.... its all fake and preplanned.
obviously once they cause a huge scene they're not going to put Falklands gags in the Edit. so after that they just don't include any gags about falklands and pretend it was a coincidence and not done on purpose. but think about it, there is NO WAY top gear goes to Argentina and doesn't mention the Falklands. no way.
if the numberplate was H245 FKL then fair enough. or H982 HJG... also fair enough.
but H982 FKL, which is the closest to 1982 FKL you can ever get.... come on mate. this is the biggest TV show in the world with so many crew members, researchers and producers. if you think they didn't realise, youre a fool. if you think they dont take note of every plate, youre an idiot.
@@JC-ko1bp
I know how it is too, if I remember correctly they did mention the Falklands in that special, but they didn't make a running gag out of that.
Yes, most of the stunts are fake (we all know that), however, the guys do as a matter of fact choose their own cars, the producers buy them for sure, but in challenges like these they have more say on what car they want to drive.
fact, Jeremy loves the 928.
fact, there was only 2 of that car, and the one with that particular number plate was the one that worked better.
fact, no one took notice of that plate, not the Argentinians (at first), not even the producers, 's a matter of fact it took various tweets for them to notice during filming.
fact, the special was planned out before they even began to choose the cars.
fact, you can't prove that they did it on purpose with facts.
fact, most if not all facts point towards that plate being accidental.
God what an annoying interviewer. Asking the same question over and over despite James' understandable answer.
James said this is the first time they had publicly said anything about the incident and accusations, it's understandable if the journalist wanted to take maximum advantage, try to catch James up and potentially gain a news scoop. It just so happens there were no lies, there was no scoop and nothing's been said or done since this interview, from an unbiased perspective, i'd say the journalist did a great job at clearing the air, i had no idea British cars had the same plates since new, where i'm from, that would be rare unless it was a single owner from new.
He’s actually friends with the top gear guys, he’s playing devils advocate and like you said giving James the opportunity to answer the questioning. I’m glad you saw it for what it was!
Those interviewers are totally clueless. James explained it perfectly, well done mate.
I had my doubts but James has logically and calmly explained them away. I like how the sleazy radio host just basically refuses to believe him. You can imagine the scene if it had been an American show...
What, even worse?
@@maltesers1239 a looooooot worse
James May has more intelligence in his little finger than the interviewer.
Don't think so.
@@VenusInFurs2100The interviewer could (but didn't) ask a question, get an answer and NOT ask the same question from different angles just because the answer they wanted wasn't coming out of James. That, paired with the fact that this whole number plate thing wasn't deliberate goes to show that the interviewer wasn't interviewing James, but was rather probing him for an answer that he wanted to hear, whether or not it was the truth or not, which makes me agree with the initial comment
@@nicholasw.3488 The thing is the interviewer couldn't believe how cynical James is trying to pretend the plate wasn't deliberated, anyone knows it was, so stop underestimate people. The joke went wrong and they are in denial. Anyway, I feel it was Plankson who should have been interviewed, not James.
@@VenusInFurs2100 I'll put it simply: When has Top Gear EVER tried to upset people without any subtle way of making it known that they were going to. When GT went to South America, they kept making subtle cocaine references in the special.. When TG went to India, at one point they made British advertisements, but made it known before they did it. When they went to America (The one that ended in New Orleans), they'd been making fun of Americans the whole time. Nowhere in any of the Patagonia special did they make fun of the Falklands war, or anything about it. You can tell the plate debacle was unintentional because there weren't any subtle hints at it like there normally are, because that wasn't the intent of the program. Not only did James say that, but it's also clear if you think about this special in comparison to other specials. Plus, if they wanted to play dumb about upsetting people, they wouldn't have sent James to do the interview. And on top of that, as explained in the interview, the 928 had the original plates on it, and the 928 GT in question had records of registration with that plate from 1991, so it's stupid to think that they be able to change the plates, and would break protocol and change the plates on purpose. Also, Normally when they offend people, they blow it off but they know they did it, but here they denied doing it on purpose. Why is that? Because it wasn't on purpose. Thank you🚪
@@VenusInFurs2100 it's an original number plate that was registered 20 years before the war. Going to tell me they went back in time to change it to make one joke?
I really want a podcast with Jeremy, James and Richard
they have a youtube channel called drive tribe
The Grand Tour
Top Gear drivetime radio episode
Basically THE NEWS again. Would love to see all three of them ramble on for an hour about F1, new car releases, Electric cars and so on.
Top Gear without the audience
The fact that the car has its original number plate pretty much debunks the idea that that number plate was deliberate. Then on top of that that specific car was chosen to fit the car themes of that episode and it was 1 of 2 available for sale.
How is it so hard for this guy to grasp that a number plate is meaningless until you find meaning in it.
Just to let people know i did an HPI check on the car to see if the it was a stunt but infact, james was correct when he said the plates of the car was the original as an hpi check would show all plates the car has had in it's history
Yeah you can look it up on DVLA too, registered 1991 to that car, shame Absolute Radio couldn't think of that.
www.gov.uk/get-vehicle-information-from-dvla
But he lied about them not being able to change those plates, because the car actually has two and that was the first thing BBC did after the story had become public.
No one is suggesting the car isn't original. They obviously bought the car because of that number plate. The car it belonged to was pretty immaterial. Two things suggest they knew very clearly the significance of the plate and the trouble it would cause. Firstly they took a spare set of plates with them, why do this? The second set of plates was BE11END - another coincidence perhaps? Secondly if you watch the episode you'll notice they deliberately hide the number plate from view throughout most of the show so that no one gets the joke until they intended to unveil it. And no doubt the whole point of the second set of plates being "BE11END" would have been a dig at the moron Clarkson for not noticing the first. Do people actually believe the stunts in TG aren't staged?
First of all, we see the number plate loads in the film. Also, I'm pretty certain they didn't buy that car because of the plates. It was a Porsche 928 and Jeremy loves that car; he was reviewing that car when his Dad was hospitalised and he raced up the country at top speed to the hospital and made it in time to say goodbye to his Dad before he passed away, so the 928 means a hell of a lot to him.
James May: “explains how statistics actually work” Interviewer: “visible brain fart”
Combinatorics, actually.
Mix of both I guess. You need to know combinatorics to find the probability
except he got it completely wrong. "actually every combination has a 1 in 13 million chance of happening" is not, in fact, how statistics works
@@AhrkFinTey how does it work
@@gallyturndrop5320 The fact that any particular controversial license plate and any particular non-controversial plate have the same chance of occurring is irrelevant, because the set of controversial license plates is orders of magnitude smaller than the set of non-controversial license plates.
I agree with May: the plate does not say anything unless you really try and see what’s wrong. It’s not like the plate was “I982 FKL” or “1982 FKL”.
Or if you had a plate that said "Fuck Cops" and a cop pulls up behind you, that'd be a situation awkward for everyone.
Its like thinking a plate that is H939 GRY is representative of Germany kickstarting the Second World War, although it is just 1 letter, 3 numbers and another 3 random letters
It’s like looking at a cloud that makes the shape of an image and then concluding that that exact shape of cloud has a 1 billion chance of being formed therefore someone or something made that cloud shape deliberately! I’m impressed by how May debunked the moronic notion that since the chances of that specific number plate being chosen are 1 in 13 million it therefore must have been chosen deliberately!
I wish jeremy did this interview. He would have torn these imbosiles to shreds
@@callumtanner992 sentiment is still correct even if the spelling is off
Callum Tanner how’s this spelling for you? YOU’RE A MORON AND NOBODY CARES.
@@aaronbowen9962 I agree with you the moron must not think
Oh the irony
Jeremy wouldn't give them the time of day though, he's too impatient
The radio interviewer is the best represantator of todays media, finding an issue in something thats perfectly fine.
And refusing to see a well made point. Because the number plate was married to the car, they're suggesting there was a conspiracy to find plates that made reference to the war until they found one that would fit the show.
It's an absurd accusation.
Or he's just you know.. investigating? There was an attack, he's presenting the supposed reason given and challenging the responses given by James May. I mean WTF else would you expect, just automatically accept everything with no follow-up?
@@ChuckChuckWood What are you talking about? May explains the situation more than once and the interviewer keeps asking the same shit in a different package. This has nothing to do with investigation, he wanted May to make a contradiction or something similar just so he can proof that there was more behind this story, but there wasnt! The number plate makes no sense, besides being a number plate that was married to this car.
@@LLubdeRr "He wanted May to make a contradiction or something similar so he could prove there was more behind the story"
Yeah that's called investigating bitch tits
May's comment, "If I were a journalist..." was a very polite and understated way of telling the host, "if you were better at your job you'd have done some research on your own." Rightly so.
The thing is, if they either bought that car _because_ of the licence plate, or they got a custom licence plate, _they absolutely would have made a joke about it._ You just know they would have. Hell even if it was a coincidence if any of them noticed I feel like they would have made a joke about it.
It would be one of the easiest jokes to make
What exactly is wrong with the licence plate?
yeah they would, maybe not if they were in mortal danger because of sore losers lol
The only way this could be planned is if they found that car, noticed the reg and then planned the trip to Argentina because of the reg
The painful thing is I scrolled a good ways down in the comments and someone was unironically making that *exact* argument. The whole trip was planned around the car. smh, some people.
Hi, i'm Argentinian, i remember when some blogs where leaking the info that top gear was coming to Argentina and i have to say many of us where very exited about that. But i think when they started to make the special episode in Argentina, somebody with resentment about the war spread fake news saying that Clarkson, may and hammond where moking about the war.
Thank you Octavio. I would imagine a lot of you guys out there were keen to see the Top Gear team in action. Sad that people want to perpetuate the hatred by suggesting that it was a deliberate attempt to mock Argentinians. Hope you are still enjoying the antics of Top Gear and Grand Tour!
@@andrewhaines8603 yes and I think mostly old people here in Argentina doesn't know english and also they don't understand the british humor.
Also in Argentina we have a better handling of english also Brazil.
But the problem as always is in the economic situation of the families.
Well to explain it I need to write a lot.
Greetings!
@@andrewhaines8603 sorry I forgot to say that we are still enjoying top gear and the grand tour in amazon prime video
@@FurnishedIgloo Mate, just because some salty twats in Ushiaua hounded the crew doesn't mean all of the people are bad. It's like saying all of the german soldiers in the second world war were all racists and hated jews with a passion. Yes, there were those types of soldiers in the german army at that time but many of the soldiers were forcefully enrolled into the army and were fighting to defend their country, and if they didn't do what the german command told them, they would be hanged or worse. Just take a look at the scene in the film "Fury", where they show that the Waffen SS hanged children for not wanting to participate in the war with the words "Ich bin ein Feigling und wollte nicht für das Deutsche Volk kämpfen" or in english "I am a coward and didn't want to fight for the German people". I may have gotten a bit off topic but you get my point, not all of the people in Argentina are idiots that attack british people when they visit the country, as some do actually have braincells and have the ability to think before they act.
Argentina is sh#t hole
The reason Jeremy wanted a Porsche 928 was because when his father was dying in a staffordshire hospital, he had a 928 gts on test in London. He manage to see his Dad 30 minutes before his dad past away and thanked the powerful Porsche for getting him there.
Exactly. Jeremy wanted the 928 for a reason that was personal to him. Because of the Porsche, he got to see his dad one last time before he died. It had nothing to do with what the number plate says, which at the end of the day only means something if you're looking for one.
Sheffield, not Staffordshire
Sheffield. Man received the call, drove all the way there and still had a warm chicken
"Man who raced death, won by a half an hour..."
Honestly, those Argentinian Police Officers did brilliantly to keep the damage to a minimum. I saw a few police cars blocking the rocks being pelted at the convoy. Thank you Argentinian Police for keeping our lads safe🍻
Would be intresting to see the Argentina Mob on a tv show and their explain thar it wasnt a refferance to the war.
They did have standerds saying their not going to mock it, they were going to mock their love of ham and Cheese.
I'd never heard of these guys before, so glad they did that publicity stunt so that I became aware of their show.
@@nuttbag6658 it's called sarcasm dipshit
@@nuttbag6658 literal nut bag LOL
I agree, now I know precisely who Absolute Radio are.
I saw a license plate with 536 on it. Quite insensitive to people who lived through that year, I'm going to go tear down some statues now.
I once had a number plate that ended in DJN .. it was obvisously mocking the interviewer as it meant DJ Nob.
Saw a car with ny911
Burnt it down
I had a car with the license plate VBG
Obviously hating on Very Big Giraffes
@@zjjohnson3827 Hey same
"As men, you often look at number plates and try to make numbers and letters from them, dont you?"
Lol what?
This man takes speaking out his ass to a whole different level
Yes I am also watching 6 years after as well
@@finleydavies8846 me too
nowadays I take the piss out of this by looking at car number plates and thinking of the most offensive things that an come out of this
I've never done this, the only exception is custom plates which are clearly meant to be a specific word. In this case it was not a custom plate, no one selected those numbers and letters.
I imagine he once saw a number plate with "CVN7" somewhere in it and went, hey, that's me!
No controversy here, the Falklands belong to Britain.
Love how James stayed perfectly calm throughout out while explaining some obvious to those dimwits.
this was a pretty big diplomatic incident tbf. and he's just a radio DJ, not a full broadcast journalist.
James May answers the questions with calm, considered, and very reasonable replies.
He's the man for the job here.
Clarkson or Hammond would lose their minds.
"Someone must have noticed"
"If you don't think of the event the plate could remotely be representing, then how are you supposed to notice?"
"Yeah but there's so many people, someone surely must have noticed"
"The plate was assigned to the car ages ago. We didn't even have said event in our heads."
"sOmEoNe MuSt HaVe NoTiCeD!!!"
It's frustrating when the story you planned to uncover just really didn't happen, ay?
Just checked out the second part, sadly comments are disabled. The fact alone he's assuming they just had a relaxxed luxury flight back home or just chill out in the "first class +, diamond lounge" while the crew was still battling the mob is absolutely tasteless...
An argentinan journalist post on Twitter a picture of the three parked cars and pointed the license plate and made the connection and went full suspicious about it. Of course, at that time and with only that information everyone went mad thinking it was on purpose. And went viral pretty quickly due some cultural things only argentinans have. Car community here is pretty large and territorial.
So of course someone would noticed. Someone actually noticed. But I think that if it wasn't for that tweet and this whole social media explosion, it probably wouldn't be this controversial and violent.
@@LecanaldeMz I do realize Argentinians will notice something like that a bit quicker, but he was complaining no-one on the production team noticed. And to be honest, I think that if you had gone to that presenter before they started the trip and had presented him the cars like "those are the cars we're going to take, neat huh?" He too wouldn't have said, "oh but look at that number plate"
I bet most people won't know which number plates would be even illegal in Germany and Austria mainly because even knowing the history of those countries they wouldn't immediately make a connection. Any non-German here would've really known and would've remembered that 28 is a number being illegal to be used on a registration? I don't think so.
On another point, I appreciate that locals criticise the number plate, that's perfectly fine, but the mob that self-created itself is absolutely disgusting. Especially since I'm extremely sure that 99.9% Argentinians are really honest, polite, understanding and welcoming people. If they had come to the hotels they were staying at they would've told them very politely and calmly why this number plate isn't exactly the best choice and would've listened to the story May, Hammond and Clarkson would've told them, about why the plates are on the car and how they didn't notice. And I think it's just incredibly sad that so few people portrayed the country of Argentina so incredibly bad to a point it may actually harm the image of the whole country.
So what I'm saying is I appreciate if there's people that notice but stop insinuate that something was delibirate when it absolutely wasn't.
@@boahneelassmal I don't think this was on purpose. But I have the feeling that if somebody in the TG team noticed, they wouldn't do anything and just going with it. I mean Top Gear wasn't one of those politically correct thing. They were offensive as much of how offensive everyone of the presenters are. And that's ok.
The thing here is that Top Gear (BBC the everyone likes this) version wasn't that popular here, because you need premium packs to get BBC on TV, so not many people knew that this program made this kind of jokes. I mean look at the Alabama special and you can realize they like to go that far.
Now, that being said, as I previously commented, the way that tweet were posted and the way how not everyone knew how Top Gear was about these cultural things, it made it look like it was on purpose, so people took personal.
I don't justify the mob, but this is how people here tend to react with provocation. And this felt provocative. Plus you need to understand that in Patagonia, a lot of veterans of the war or their families have lived since the very end of the war (even before). And we are weird with a lot of things like patriotism (the superficial one) and proud. People here are ignorant and fight about football or politics or the slightest thing that probably an "outsider" would just talk or live with it.
Did you watch Talladega Nights? The bar scene where Ricky Bobby is talking about how great America is? Well, kind like that. And Malvinas (or Falkland) Islands is a sensitive topic, it's pretty much taboo. People don't like history when it goes against how they feel about something. Even on our history has these blanks spaces where they didn't tell about how the good ones did terrible things or how the bad ones have done good things. But if you talk about those things, you are the bad one.
We live in the past. We hate chileans for things that happened way too long as it were yesterday. I'm not saying they done the right thing, but trying to explain how something like this is pretty much the only result if you came here thinking like it is another country.
The mob wasn't that unpredictable also because people actually told the producers or some of the TG team they going to have problems. People told them that as long at that plate was there, they will not be that welcome. Sad thing is that probably half of the people in the mob were just opportune people who just wanted to spit hate and not veteran related family
@@LecanaldeMz "I mean look at the Alabama special and you can realize they like to go that far."
Yes, TG liked to go to the extremes but everytime you did you can see they only went this far because there still was indeed a humorous aspect about it and they knew it will be recognized as satire. What they did was to take something which was true and then exaggerated that specific thing. If they did make political joke they were really careful not to cross a very thin line. That's the reason Hitler Jokes directed at Germany worked. It was recognizable as satire. It was direct. Their america trip: Everything they said was clearly spelled out. At no point did they have very hidden messages that could've been deemed massively offensive and disrespectful. If there were some in between the line jokes, which there were plenty, the context marked them clearly as jokes and sattire.
Now, the fact that TG isn't as popular in Argentina due to additional costs, that I agree could contribute to a negative reaction. It's simply a lack of context, but, and I don't know this, so I gotta take your word for it, if it indeed was a journalist who made that public in a very sensationalized fashion then the journalist not only didn't do their job the way they should but in my opinion should be held accountable to some degree.
Now, in Europe we have similar problems regarding the "living in the past" aspect. A few eastern european countries have serious beef for what ever reason but it has shown that the majority of young people don't even know why and frankly don't really want to have beef with their neighbors, yet the elderly keep that mentality upright. I'm aware it's hard to change but it's just insanely stupid. So much is being destroyed by that mentality. For instance again that programme. It could've been such a great advertisement for the country and the region but because they started to act up this stupidly I'm pretty sure it has kept many people from travelling there.
Now, if they were told upon entry into the country, the plate could cause issues, then I agree, it's a shame that they didn't act upon it. I can see why it was really difficult since re-registering the car may be a huge effort but in order to keep peace that shouldn't have been an issue, really.
Neither of us know, why - if they were informed about the plate - the decision was made to keep it. And I'm pretty sure, that if the production team was informed about the issue, they thought, there really wasn't a need to inform the presenters about the issue. So in the end May can only say and tell what he knew at a certain point in time respectively. So when he says "no-one noticed" then it is, of course, absolutely possible somebody did know, but that's unbeknownst to him. from his point of view no-one noticed. And if he hasn't been told that someone knew, should someone have known, how can he know. This is why the continued questioning and suggesting someone knew and May is lying is highly inappropriate.
It's like as follows: Your girlfriend continuously cheats on you for whatever how long. At somepoint you find out and you mate continuously says "oh come on, you must have know" over and over again.
Now, I, as a German, can see, why someone may care very deeply about certain parts of their country's history. I get it. But in my eyes every journalist should really think twice about the consequences their sensationalistic writing can have and as soo as there's people's wellbeing in danger you should either say nothing or as objective as humanly possible. Also, there comes a point in time when differences need to be put aside. Heck, we could be really cross with Austria, since in the end Hitler was Austrian. France could be insanely cross with us and so could many many countries in the world. Yet we somehow managed to rebuild relationships. You don't need to be best friends, but being respectful and keep your calm goes a long long way.
Now, I hope you're well, stay healthy and be kind :)
@@boahneelassmal I think this is a perfect instance to use that Mad Men meme that ends with "I don't think about you at all" The TG staff didn't notice cause the average British person today could give 2 flying F's about the Falklands war. To anyone not from Argentina its a trivia question. As an American I think the equivalent would be the siege of General Noriega (see I can't even remember the damn country... nvm it was Panama).
This was back during the time where you could use an intellect to argue against being cancelled. Good on James.
that's because it was one presenter putting across all the speculation and arguments that were on twitter.
I once drove behind a red BMW 325 with a license plate of BMW325 on it. It was a normal plate, not a customized one.
They were making fun of your dead relatives
"all we did was buy some secondhand cars"
end the video here. this is litteraly everything. whoever saw this has too much time on their hands
SCMcruisesADL I am not sure about this but I feel that Jeremy would still like the number plate.
@@letome1676 That's exactly what comes to mind. Jeremy often crossing the line in his jokes, and the fact that he wanted exactly that model, while there were only 2 those cars on market, one was trash, and another one had that plate. Obviously he could search before prepairing to film this episode, and not porsche, but any v8 car with some stupid plate. Cause he love to poke nazis, their friends, and just to show off how great his own country is.
@@nickkomlev687 the porsche he drove had significant personal importance, he didnt deliberately pick it to be disrespectful
What is the reason, and what is a consequence?) Mate, i can give kinda legit reason to a lot of stupid stuff that i've done, so do you, so does Clarkson. Did he told about this in the actual episode, before all the controversy?
@@nickkomlev687 pretty sure jeremy actually talks about how this is the car he used to visit his dying dad in the special
A number on a license plate is no justification for that level of mob violence. The people involved in the mob wanted to act like animals, so they seized upon the shallowest excuse. A bunch of production staff has no relation to the people who fought off the Argentinian invasion.
Yeah it was pretty upsetting to see it get so out of hand, but it's easy for us to forget the kind of trauma the Falklands War had in Ushaia particularly. Grief makes people do very silly things. And while I don't condone the way they treated the production crew or presenters in the slightest, I guess I can sort of understand how they reacted. It's still very much a fresh wound there for a lot of people (and I find it very difficult to believe the number plate was pure coincidence...)
@@callum0509 Its a pity that they do not look at their own military short comings rather than take it out on a film crew.I find it very difficult to understand why people do not believe the number plate was pure coincidence rather than a lame excuse for cowardly behavior applied after the event to justify it.The idea that a group of people who probably don't speak English could make that out of a number plate and then simultaneously gather to attack them stretches belief.
The Falklands never belonged to them and started a war they couldn't win over it. It's like a Sioux or any other Native American laying claim to Hawaii because it's close to America. I claim Buenos Aires so they all owe me rent.
@@kethughes8266 Two minutes with a screwdriver and one could put anything they want as a "license plate". Did you see the pair of "license plates" that were found, photographed, documented at the Argentinian border? So just where did those come from?.., some 1988 Ford Fiesta?...no, Clarksons' car, in the trunk ready & willing to piss off anyone & everyone they can......those plates that said "BELL END' frankly, the producers had always done supremely stupid & dangerous things, along with Clarksons goading ....and from long long ago, Argentinian schoolchildren had English as a requirement in school...might very well know the language better than you...
Callum 0 they are just butthurt they lost that is no excuse to Thorpe a hissy fit
James: "no, it wasn't intentional"
Interviewer: "WHY WONT YOU SAY WHAT WE WANT YOU TO SAY?? GRRRR"
these guys are the embodiment of the phrase "Hindsight is always 20/20"
This is what it feels like arguing online.
Lmao yess
No it isn’t. And in fact, (1/396)
There was a guy in my town who was nearly charged or something along those lines because his license plate was GRABHER, and people got all up in arms because they thought it was Grab Her and said it was promoting sexual violence or something. The dude is an older gentleman, I think in his 50s, and Grabher is his last name. People just see what they want (or don’t want) to see to get offended.
Was this in Nova Scotia, because I remember seeing it on the Halifax news for weeks
@@spencerferguson649 Yes! It was!
Coincidences are everywhere as soon as you start looking for them
As a grown adult, my favorite pastime is totally to look at the number plates of every nearby car and then assault drivers that seem to have a number plate I don't like, yes.
I hate how the radio interviewer is attacking James
James is making a fair point
are you sosig ramsey?
Aron Dencker no
He's a secret *Argentinian*
You must be pretty sensitive if you think that was attacking...
@@Johnny-Joseph it was verbal attack m8
Is this interviewer Argentinean too? He's reaching so hard
@@callumtanner992 so triggered you have to come on here and insult people with trite old words like "incel"
Cody Barrett You're defending someone who still uses "Jew" as an insult?
He's the kind of a reporter who's trying to squeeze things out of him to blow it out of proportion and twist it to a controversy. You know, what especially jews do, aside of other victim role rubbing and people who loosely draw the race card. Like that TMZ interviewer who desperately tried to get some filth out of Matt Groening about the black Smithers thing.
@Reunite The British Empire
This man is mining salt
My guess is he is part arg or his spouse is etc. Cause it’s just the worst just keeps ploughing on even tho he’s been told that it is just a number plate and has been given the explanation of everything that happened to end up with that plate
Wow James May is completely right here about the odds being irrelevant as it's just as unique as any other number plate
I could listen to James May debate all day, such an intelligent man.
Using the same logic as some of the comments I see below, you can make insinuations from Hammond's plate. EK = Enemies Killed, 646 is close. N on May's car is Number of losses, 269 which is near the number.
If you think about it, you can make almost any insinuation from any number plate.
e.g. ABC 1234
ABC = Argentina's Bloody Catastrophe
Now lets play around with the numbers....
1 = 1 and 2 = 2, so we separate these as; 1__2
2+3+4 = 9; added into the above gives 19_2
1+3+4 = 8; added into the above gives 1982
OMG!!!!! Argentina's Bloody Catastrophe of 1982!!!!! This number plate is offensive so lets go endanger some lives
-_-
Cakemonster147 lol ok.
Cakemonster147 yeah there obviously looking to try and find a reason to get mad
How long did that take?
Well said!!
For what it's worth: my theory is they would have got mud on the plate to partially obscure the H so it literally said "1982 FKL" which isn't half like almost saying something, it's then a clear and obvious reference.
I have no sympathy for the Argentines and it's disgusting how they treated the top gear crew, but it's a pretty obvious connection to make
If Top Gear brought us world peace, the Daily Mail would whine about all of those poor arms manufacturers being out of work.
Hey I am Argentinian and honestly I didn't mind.
So don't sweat it guys
The moment James said that the numberplate came with the car and was its original, yeah they definitely didn't plan this out. Also the fact that the number didn't even say 1982 and three letters that happen to be in the word Falklands, how could you say it was deliberate?
I think the radio hosts are being deliberately obtuse and stupid for one (or more) of three reasons.
1, they want to get a big debate going to make their show seem better.
2, they believe everything they hear and are bad presenters/journalists.
3, they're idiots that are trying to start something.
They may also simply be trying to represent the views and arguments that the public are giving so that James can respond properly
The presenter was playing advocate, asking the questions the audience would be thinking and so giving May the chance to explain the facts. Had the presenter just said "Yeah it was all nonsense" then no one would have been convinced and would have just thought it was a coverup. The presenter was actually helping May explain to the audience.
The presenter was just asking the questions he was expected to ask. It’s his job. And May handled it really well. May is correct. People are seeing something that isn’t there, and believe me, I would be first to side with Argentina over the Falklands issue.
I think they're just playing "devils advocate"
So...
The argentinian football team held a "las malvinas son argentinas" banner before a friendly match, they recently approved a new law which states that all public transport across the country must be stamped with the words "las malvinas son argentinas". But they hunt three celebrities + the crew because one of the number plate remotely referenced the falklands war?
I don't understand the logic
It's the work of an ineffective government stirring up nationalism in order to distract attention away from the fact that the country is falling apart.
You cant understand until you live in Argentina. Maybe it's difficult to understand, like everybody in the world cant understand why brits worship an old fart like a queen, come on...welcome to 2015..
the Kirchner empire has always been using human rights and the Malvinas / Falklands as a distraction issues.
Nationalist morons doing a nationalist moron thing. Whod a funked it? Honestly, the world would be a much better place without any of them. From ANY country. The Argentinian ones are just a very handy indication of why we MUST BE RID OF THEM. In any case I personally feel we should take the piss out of the Argentinians about the Falkland "war". Why? If they WANT TO CONTINUOUSLY BRING IT UP, WE SHOULD BRING UP HOW WE TOTALLY DESTROYED THEM IN THAT CONFLICT.
with all due respect, but you said no imformacion, Argentina lost the Falklands is a cruel dictatorship, and I do a couple of acotores entitled to make fun of something so painful for our country and the Falklands for our Argentine wars we do not say anything in 2015 and behave like an empire
Me 7 years later finding out of date controversy...
I always knew James May is the well articulated one with a very intelligent and witty mind. He’s organisation in his arguments really showed it here, it’s very impressive
Top gear at the time of this incident was one of the biggest shows on the planet. They don't need publicity. The show speaks for itself. The whole incident was blown way out of proportion
Interviewer: did you do it on purpose?
James: no, we didn’t even get the meaning the Argentinians gave to the plate until it was explained to us
Interviewer: ok so why did you do this on purpose?
These guys were so ignorant, props to James for making them look like the imbeciles they are
The way the interviewer kept putting his hand up during this exchange made me want to punch him. Guess I'd be fired off top gear too lol
@@aboomer420 I don’t know what you watched lol. This guy gave him the softest questions ever and didn’t once apply any real pressure on it. They were always buying cars with funny plates on them. They went on here because this guy worked with them and they knew they would get an easy interview. I love those 3 as much as anyone. Some of the best tele ever filmed. But let’s not sit here pretending they didn’t buy that car on purpose. They still do it to this day on grand tour lol
@@ryanflood635 Mate, it was very clear why Clarkson wanted the 928 and the rest is just as James explained it. It is the same number plate that was registered to the car decades before the special was filmed and this was proven. They get cars with funny plates in places they were allowed to do this like Madagascar for example. Name me one other example in the show where they got custom license plates while traveling public roads?
@@suckieduckie I never said they had customised the plates.
@@ryanflood635 Then show me an example of a funny plate in a special other than Madagascar. You claim they do it all the time, name some examples.
Us humans are notoriously bad at comprehending statistics. James breaks it down so well. He really is quite a smart guy.
I absolutely love that I turned my phone volume all the way up and put it to my ear to hear James May speak, only for my ear to be decimated at the end
Imagine being this bad at interviewing people...
Yeah, I mean it's almost like the interviewer didn't buy the BS he came out with.... Almost.
@@futurez12 BS? Are actually joking or just braindead?
@@futurez12 check the dvla racords for yourself like he suggested. It's all publicly available information, if you can type a comment you can use Google. If you can't I'm sure your mommy will type it in for you.
I am Argentinian and I apologize to all the English for the attitude of Underdeveloped ape of my compatriots, I want you to know that we are not all that way but there are many people who were resentful about the Falklands. I have British ancestry and I am very sorry that they are so sensitive to everything in my country, anyway stop insulting my country and generalize. love and peace 🇬🇧🇦🇷
But to this day the British mock the massacre they committed to your people.
@@dantewar2406 the argentine government started a conflict they couldn't win and paid the price for it.
@@Jose-mv3gb sure they did
@Jose Eijo You cannot really be that stupid.
@@Jose-mv3gb Argentina didn't even exist as a country when the British laid claim to the Falklands. So how can you invade a country that doesn't exist?
Philistine!
The irony here is the interviewer saying top gear did it as a publicity stunt when this interview is literally the most publicity absolute radio ever got. Whereas top gear was already the world's most popular car show.
To be fair, they also always bring up ww2 whenever they are in Germany, so saying they would never do such a thing is not correct.
Are Germans sensitive about people making jokes about hitler as if you're insulting a family member? Joking about that is completely different.
Even if someone in Germany is sensitive about it, they can make themselves feel better by looking at what they got out of it, considering this discussion is about a car show, look at their car industry today compared to ours. Most of our manufacturers now no longer exist, and what is left from that, half of it is owned by German companies, Mini-BMW, Rolls Royce-BMW, Bentley-VAG and Vauxhalls are basically RHD Opels. Meanwhile, Volkswagen, Audi, Porsche, Mercedes, BMW, all fully German brands and many models from them are actually the best selling cars in the UK, year after year. Hitler's car, the Beetle, which he even contributed to the design of and it's 'cute' nature that made it the popular internationally recognised car that it is, Volkswagen didn't seem fussed as they kept the original Beetle in production around the world until 2005 and brought back the name in the early 2000's as a new model, not to mention the company name 'Volkswagen' or 'People's car' a title hitler came up with which they actually head the company with, VAG, Volkswagen Audi Group, they didn't change the name. Autobahns were his idea too for quick access to invading other countries, but yet they're a major thing Germany is known for amongst petrolheads, and they don't have any problems with that. If they didn't like it they could just thrown strict speed limits on them permanently like the Netherlands to stop them being an appeal for tourists with their history, and make them like any other European motorway, but they don't.
"So u say u are British?"
"Yes"
"So u say u were born in 1982?"
"Yes?"
"And is it by coincidence that u are driving a British car?"
"errrrr......"
"Im sorry mate."
*gets egged.*
"No, it's not 13 million : 1, it's 2 : 1."
Not to mention, Porsche only ever produced 60 000 928s worldwide. 😂 Someone in that room did not think that through at all.
Licence plate configurations
I guess the bloke means the combined odds of having this numberplate on any car
Anyway in my opinion the odds of them having this exact numberplate out of every possible british numberplate are more like 1:450 000 000
@off spec okay
@@mmjf674 It's called conditional probability, should be some quick 5-min read on the internet.
@@jkliao6486 thanks... Will look into it
People really got mad about a license plate?
I honestly couldnt figure out what was so special about that number until explicitly googling it
I was living in Argentina at the time of this “incident” and it was a minor news comment. People get worked up and write an incredible amount of rude and disrespectful answers. What a pity.
There's video of an angry mob attacking their cars though...
Not quite as disrespectful as hurling bricks through production teams' windows though, hey mate?
Moron there's video footage of the attacks
My numberplate is potentially rather rude so bang goes my chance of appearing on Top Gear.
Juan C. I've seen numbers that spell FGT
;)
Juan C. hail hydra
*****
hail hydro
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First off I’m sorry to hear that m8 , but I’ve no idea why ? I’ve been sitting looking at your comment for far too long now but if you do find out I’d like to know why as I’m just confused about the offensiveness of FLD Y146 ???
@captainolimar700 What?
Honestly, the second I saw the licence plate I new they'd run into a problem and felt that it has to be an inside joke!
I'm sorry but that has Jeremy Clarkson written all over it lol.. that's why I love him
What's even more disrespectful is Jeremy explained he chose the 928 due to a sentimental attachment linked to his father. Argentinians deserve ridicule for this behaviour, even now.
you know.. I'm on top gear's side on this one, but isn't it very suspicious that they went to Argentina with a plate that resembled ever so accurately a past war between UK and Argentina? I don't know about that one.. even if it is a coincidence it's very suspicious..
@@fabrix234 But the number plate was always registered to the car. How do Top Gear pick a provocative numberplate on an extremely rare car? You have to want to see it. The Argentinians even dared to say the other two cars had "provocative plates" as well. It's just people looking for trouble.
@@PorthLlwyd That's highly unlikely.
@@PorthLlwyd Sorry but even the BBC isn't that Retard to do that.
Yeah
Argentinian patriotism is really hard to understand. It's not like it's such a wonderful country. 32 years ago, this misplaced patriotism allowed your dictator to drag you into a war you couldn't possibly win over islands that were never yours. You didn't lose because Great Britain got NATO help (it didn't, despite what you like to tell yourselves), you lost because you couldn't possibly win. Despite what you were told, your defeat was assured from the very start. Argentina is a country with a great future behind it. It could have been great, instead it's a mediocre pit of corruption, stagnation, inflation, and misplaced nationalism. Instead of addressing these issues, your leaders bring up the subject of the Falklands, knowing that you will swallow this hook, line, and sinker and forget about actually repairing your own country before trying to annex parts of someone else's. Start by fixing that ! Then you'll probably laugh at a foreign car's number plate.
well, a heard 15 years ago an argentinian lady say exactly wht you just wrote, it's not a secret argentina has vry hi coorruption, but you know nothing of inflation, its not so bad as years ago, England has inflation aswell, the iland is from Argentina beacause the engñand invation to the iland toke place on 1830 20 years after argentina became a country in 1810, and since the iland is in their territory pretty far from enlgland, don't you think? Argentina country since 1810, england invation was on 1830, use your calculator then!
Jack Riper You are wrongly assuming that the Falklands became part of Argentina when it gained independence. Their geographic location is not relevant. If we applied your logic, St.Pierre et Miquelon should be part of Canada, Campione d'Italia should be Swiss, maybe you think Italy should declare war on Slovenia to regain Istria ? But let's assume for a moment that you are right and the Falklands were briefly Argentinean. They were occupied in 1830. How far back in time do you go to claim restitution ? why stop at 1830 ? why not 1776 ? why not 1512 ? why not return Argentina to the natives from which it was stolen by the occupying Spanish ? at some point you will have to learn to let history rest. No one is hurt except Argentinean pride.
You are right, I know very little about inflation since I have the privilege of living in a well-managed country with a 2% inflation rate. Though I have no first-hand experience, I'm pretty sure that's better than Argentina's 25% rate for 2013 and 30% projected for 2014...
CaptHollister We are not discusng here which country has more millitary power which has more money at their bank which has inflation which does not, I t doesn't really hurt Argentinians something they allready know, I dont see anyone writing , You may have half of any other country if it doesn´t have an army like Argentina, an that doesn´t mean you have the right to take it, but it's totally wrong to think like that, DAAH, but people in this site doesn't care, they are far to spoiled litle minded boys by their stupid parents who tought them nothing about life, and don't have brains to learn them buythemselfs, Im just saying the iland does not belong to england, even if they went there on 1600, there is a treaty brazil belongs to PORTUGAL before brazilian independence day, when brazil became country the territory belongs to brazilian people so FILKEENYiland (islas malvina)is on argentinian terrytory, since spain arrived at the new continent, AMERICA, if ngland had people before that, they still have no rights to the land, in that case argentinia is not argentina is another kelper state, it's main city Buenos Aires is not called Buenos Aires becasuse England invade twice, teh reason why this hapensis because of the many Kelpers on Iland, and the petrol and the lots of millions of dollars involved, So you are a person if you have money?, don't think so, Im apoor person, still have more culture that any other english of w, they are from, I have travelled around the world, im not an IDIOT like this guys here, they use english but don't have brains to say something remotly close to this.
Jack Riper No one mentioned military power. To restate: Argentina does not now, and never has had a valid claim to the Falklands. You assume that when you gained independence from Spain the Falklands became yours, but you assume wrong. I'm not sure I fully understand your other points, but then again your English is better than my Spanish, so I won't complain. My point was that even if you believe those islands were yours between 1810 and 1830, that fact does not give you a right to them today. And to have staged an invasion in 1982 was a supremely stupid move by your dictatorship. At some point we must all accept the facts of history and move on with our lives. There seems to be this belief amongst some Argentinians that if only they could conquer the Falklands, all their problems would disappear. Personally, I think it would just extend the mismanagement of the mainland to another bit of territory. Regardless of its potential resources, Argentina has unfortunately demonstrated that it can't properly manage them. Why would Argentinian management of the Falklands and their potential resources be any different ? besides, the people living there don't want to be Argentinian, and let's not forget that it is their home and their land. Portugal, Spain, England, and France may have granted the lands of the Americas to the people occupying them, but really those lands were not theirs to give. Before the Europeans arrived, there were people living there. Argentina, like everybody else on our continent, is an artificial country created by robbing the initial inhabitants of their home and their land.
PS. For what it's worth, personally I don't think you're an idiot.
***** Hey Fellakenny h982, your chances to be right are 10 thousand million to none, england invade islas Malvinas in the year 1830, by the time argentina had people living and working in the iland, but th eenglish were to many to be chased out of the iland, argentina couln't send any troop, had other territory problems, argentina is a country since 1810 either way lets say for a moment I don't trust mi friends and colegs or my f mother f, and the HELPERS invation was on 4.000 BC with UFOs!! !:o Argentina was a spanish colony, that ILAND belongs TO SPAIN, SINCE became argentina in 1810 20 years befoooore Helpers invation, its pretty easy to understand that th eiland became a part of argentina like TIERRA DEL FUEGO, other wise Argentina Also belongs to England, UNITES STATES BELONGS TO ENGLAND, that is way you copi everything from them?? I just wonder, ;) So HONG KONG belongs to ENgland not to china, Irland, scotland and france also belongs to england because Joan of arc was a demmon and a natzi warrior, so it does not count att all, they are obsess with cheeese an hammmm, hehe,, Don't u get it, you logic makes non sence at all, if falkenny iland is yours then tierra del fuego aswell, because...england tried many times to invade argentina, without succes, but if they want our watter they can have it, gold petrol its all yours because argentina is not even a country, inflation etc etc, I don't even write properly so im not a person, you can shoot me and stil my money and welth, it's all yours, besides im an indian so, that is pretty psicho, You don't mess with USA or with germany or france animore, you mess with the weakest ones, France should belong to england to put tanks soldiers andblame inocent people like in Irland, what does Eurpe think about english colonialism?? they have problems conflicts war with every country in the glove, this is just another issue, Most people in england are a waist of 0h2 !!! :D
There is NO WAY that that number plate was simply coincidental
What was the problem with the plate I can’t see one when I look at it
I'm from germany, and if you start drooling on about wars you lost you're down a bad road. Stop it. It will never change. They're just number plates, just ignore it.
True that, I come from a country which had lost a lot of innocent people due to the war back in 1991 to 1995. I have seen a lot of cars with those numbers on the license plates and just ignore them. Who knows why did that person put those numbers, maybe they have lost someone dear in that war or maybe they were born then or it has some meaning to them. It would be idiotic and utterly moronic if we instantly started assuming the worst...
Good sport.
lol you're german, started and lost two world wars, of course you must be sick of people bringing up wars.
@@Professional_TH-cam_Commenter think the difference is the utter shitmixing rgt took
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You could argue Austria-Hungary, Serbia, Russia or maybe even Britain had a greater role in WW1 than Germany.
I find it quite upsetting that they had to abandon those beautiful motoring icons. Everyone loves a good Mustang. Esprits are really cool, and that heartwarming story Jeremy told between the link between that car and his father makes it special too
James May has this elegance that you just can't find anywhere else
in the special you can see the front plate removed in certain scenes so that confirms they did know.
The number plate is H982 FKL but the car is a Porsche 982. Surely the number plate references the car and not the Falklands conflict.
Oh...
There goes your theory. :)
But I'm totally defending topgear
So you think the didn't think ok lets do a programme to wind up the Argentinians and make it so mud wouldn't stick, instead of going to the Falklands lets go to the Argentina and Chile border, then lets do it with the Porche 982 with a 982 reg and other lettering like FKL to make it obvious but make sure it was the original plate and be smartarses about it. We know they did it knowing the fuss it would cause what they didn't know it they'd get physically assaulted over it.
michuk007 So what exactly did they think would happen, then?
I admire anybody like James who can quietly and politely refute a stupid argument. It is a dying art in a world where people love to shout and wave their arms and the most shrill voice seems to win. Well done James.
The only thing I am certain about, aside from the fact that James is right, is that Rich did not calculate the probability of the license plate himself. And in fact the idiot who did it was wrong as well
Clarkson explains exactly why he wanted that specific car in the show, specifically the manual gearbox. It needed to be the exact same car that he drove to make it in time to see his father a half hour before he died. If it wasn't for that car he would never have gotten to say goodbye to his dad. To say he chose the car specifically for the license plate to go to a country and make fun of the deaths of people in recent war is laughable and incredibly stupid. People will make exactly what they want out of something and see things that aren't there just to be offended for the sake of being offended. And this interviewer sucked and obviously either didn't watch the show or blatantly ignored it just to get some controversy. Very poor work
the whole story blew up on twitter before the MSM could really smell blood. it's also twitter that some of the more mendacious parties used to coordinate trying to ambush the crew.
The radio presenter just doesn't get it...or doesn't want to - the car had its original number plate - there were 2 cars in Britain to choose from and they chose the best car. Sometimes people just say and do what suits them to feed their own agendas i.e finding wrong doing when there isn't any and getting upset when there is really no need.
The presenter was playing advocate, asking the questions the audience would be thinking and so giving May the chance to explain the facts. Had the presenter just said "Yeah it was all nonsense" then no one would have been convinced and would have just thought it was a coverup.
Or he wanted that number plate and then said he wanted that type of car when he saw what car it was on. Buy that car and waddyaknow. Also, who in Argentina spotted that number plate (who reads number plates?), then took a big leap making an erroneous connection and then mobilizing a small army to attack them from different parts of the country. There’s more to this than James is telling, or perhaps knows himself.
@@EGC316 The Daily Mirror, who are critics of the BBC not supporters, found the online advert that Top Gear bought the car from. It was still online with a Now Sold banner. It had a bunch of photos of the car and none of the photos showed the number plate and the listing didn't give it. Many people selling cars hide the number plate because people can search the cars history and they might not want them doing that until they have visited the showroom.
So the BBC at least started the buying process without seeing the number plate.
@@karlbassett8485 And then they went to see the car and saw the plate, and then they bought it and got the v5c and saw the plate, and then they got someone to insure it and they saw the plate, and then they showed it to the top gear team who all saw the plate, and then they got export documentation and lots more people saw the plate, and at no time during any of that, before the car even left the country and missing out loads of other people who could have saw the plate... You're telling me none of them... SAW THE PLATE?!
@@EpicFishFingers Where did I say that? I said the didn't see the plate when they started the process of buying the car, so that shows they did not buy the car for that plate and it was pure chance. Secondly, since the car drove around Argentina for a week without any Argentinians noticing the way the plate COULD be interpreted, and neither did any Argentinians who deal with the import process, customs etc then that shows the supposed meaning of the plate is clearly not obvious. If hundreds of Argentinians didn't spot the plate could have a supposed meaning then why would a few British production staff who were probably born a decade after the war ended?
Failed attempt to make TG look guilty! GJ Absolute Radio for making you look stupid :D
The car had its original number plate and I don’t even think it’s possible to run a search filter for cars for sale based on number plate.
I'm having a shitty fucking mental breakdown due to exhaustion and James' voice and manners calm me down. He's so patient and clear and cuts through the bullshit to the point without any drama. It's just oddly calming to watch.