Upgrade Ender 3 Neo Hot End

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  • @FilamentFriday
    @FilamentFriday  ปีที่แล้ว +5

    For standard Ender 3, Ender 3 Pro and Ender 3 V2 to upgrade the hot end watch this video: th-cam.com/video/tYbL-O3FecY/w-d-xo.html

    • @iamdmc
      @iamdmc ปีที่แล้ว

      thanks mate from UK
      have you ever considered making a Klipper video? What about the creality sonic pad which klipperizes any Ender?

    • @Kami3Kaze
      @Kami3Kaze ปีที่แล้ว +1

      will you be testing out the new titan extruder+ for the neo

  • @Magin68
    @Magin68 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When changing to an all metal heat break its important to reduce retraction distance or you're going to have problems. If you're running a bowden setup, 2mm retraction might be your new max. With direct drive, 1mm (or close to it) might be max.
    If you're trying to get fine details out of PLA, don't bother with all metal heat breaks as your bowden tube is doing exactly what it was designed to do. All metal is for plastics requiring more heat than PLA. Just one humble opinion.

    • @FilamentFriday
      @FilamentFriday  ปีที่แล้ว

      I print with all metal on my Ender 3 V2 every day in my printfarm with same 6mm retractions and no issues at all.

    • @Magin68
      @Magin68 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FilamentFriday I wonder what the difference is then? In your print farm, what material are you printing with and at what temp?
      I'm using the all metal heatbreak for ABS at 230-235C. I was getting clogs until I reduced the retraction from 6mm to 2.2mm. Perhaps there was something else going on??

    • @FilamentFriday
      @FilamentFriday  ปีที่แล้ว

      PLA at 205°C. 6mm retraction on bowden.

  • @gimmy9099
    @gimmy9099 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    pleas do more for Ender 3 Neo!!!

    • @oioindoor8155
      @oioindoor8155 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey i am going to buy my first 3d printer but i am not able to decide which to buy ender 3 neo or anycubic cobra i am also new to 3d printing
      Please reply 🙏

    • @gimmy9099
      @gimmy9099 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@oioindoor8155 ender 3 neo is awesome

    • @ThatGuyThatCommentedOn_A_Video
      @ThatGuyThatCommentedOn_A_Video 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@oioindoor8155Im also new to 3d printing, and narrowed it down to the same 2 printers. I ended up buying the ender 3 neo not to long ago, and I like it. I still have problems with stringing, because I need to get better at the slicing software. I was using Creality slicer and was getting good results, but I’m moving over to cura slicer, and haven’t got the same results yet. The only thing I dont realy like about this printer is the hot end, and the drive system, direct drive sounds much nicer. However there are many upgrdes for this printer, and some are 3d printable upgrades… so thats nice. Hopefully this helps a bit if you haven’t already got one

    • @oioindoor8155
      @oioindoor8155 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@gimmy9099yes it is😅

    • @Superdupershaun
      @Superdupershaun 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      YESSSSS

  • @MakeItWithCalvin
    @MakeItWithCalvin ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I genuinely wish these became the norm since I can not say how many times people go running ABS/ASA at 250+ and then go to do PLA and complain their PTFE is nuked/blame the company. Also, the breakdown products of PTFE are not something you want to be breathing either!

  • @redstone51
    @redstone51 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Don't need to write a book saying this post was EXCELLENT!!! This post perfectly explained the problem we were having and remedied it!!! Thank you!!!🙏👌

  • @TechnoTinker
    @TechnoTinker 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the in-depth explanation. There is so much to learn about the art/science of 3D printing effectively, and it's videos like this that help me figure out what info applies to my setup.

  • @nilssondelgado
    @nilssondelgado ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent explanation about heatbreak! Clear as mountain creek water...

  • @truthteller5539
    @truthteller5539 ปีที่แล้ว

    I run that same bi-metal heat break on my four CR-6’s, they work great saves the PTFE tubing and the headache of dealing with the burnt tubing.

  • @greeman92
    @greeman92 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    looking forward to more videos on the neo i just got one. so far i havent had a print fail. auto level is great

  • @Bricksniper
    @Bricksniper ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is a perfectly timed video for me. I just bought a Diamondback nozzle so I can print all the abrasive filaments I'd ever want on my original Ender 3 (highly modified), but still have the stock hotend. I want to be able to print higher temp abrasives such as PA12 CF Nylon, so I just started looking into bi-metal heatbreaks. I think you just convinced me to finally make the switch!

  • @qta4425
    @qta4425 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Terrific explanation. Covers everything in less than 8 minutes. Worked perfectly. Thanks.

  • @Frostbite8205
    @Frostbite8205 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this mate! I just had to perform my first nozzle change on my new ender 3 neo and had no idea how to get the guard off... Your video helped heaps!

  • @michaelglenn4063
    @michaelglenn4063 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This turned out to be a great upgrade, but it was definitely not "plug and play" for me. I had to tighten up retraction settings to around ~2mm like others have mentioned, but still got bad stringing. After a PID auto-tune helped but did not solve my problem, I calibrated my extruder steps also. Out of the box it was under-extruding by 8mm. I also found it helped to return to the stock 200/60 PLA settings, and play with Z-hop.

  • @kd4zqe
    @kd4zqe ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi Chuck! Just wanted to let you know, I just put together my Ender3 Neo V2 and performed this upgrade as part of my assembly! Literally not a drop of filament went through the stock setup, and it has been working perfectly. I had an Ender 3 Pro a while ago that got hit by a lightning strike that fried all the electronics and motors so when I replaced it I tried a Prusa Mk3S+. I've come to realize that while the engineering is impressive, they're SERIOUSLY overpriced, and I'm glad to be back tinkering with an Ender again!

  • @cache4pat
    @cache4pat ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow.... the Comments sections for your videos is always such an eye openner for related issues to consider. Thanks for sharing.

    • @FilamentFriday
      @FilamentFriday  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Many times the comments are actually referring to other issues but blame it on heat break. So read cautiously.

  • @d4popov
    @d4popov ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome guide! Even though I've watched the previous ones it was still interesting to see.

  • @dia35
    @dia35 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome content as usual. Thanks Chep

  • @paulcumber4732
    @paulcumber4732 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    nice job chep keep up the good work

  • @Enjoymentboy
    @Enjoymentboy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I began modding a monoprice mini select a few months ago and this was one of the first things I did (along with replacing the entire hot end) and I accidentally got the 6mm diameter ones instead of the 7mm. But I got a 4 pack off ebay for $11 shipped. I couldn't imagine paying $17 for one of them. But then again I did wait 6 weeks for them to arrive from China but I wasn't in a hurry so it was fine. I had no end of clogs and ptfe breaking down and these things solved all of those issues. TBH this upgrade is a no brainer.

  • @sailork3506
    @sailork3506 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey, guys. This is awesome upgrade. However many, including me, have posted a difficulty in getting the new heat break to fit inside the heat sink. I just had to redo mine, since I messed it up the first time. I found that one heat break would not fit. But another one, ordered at a different time from same seller, purportedly the same item, would fit easily. So if you are having problems and can't get it into the heat sink, it may be a supplier/defect issue. Not required to make it hot and trade off the aluminum/copper heat expansion.

  • @dfryer4558
    @dfryer4558 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    works like a charm!

  • @pisolo86
    @pisolo86 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing Chanel I am in love, my ender 3 neo just arrived, I will play with it but I already put this piece of kit in my trolley. Especially because in short future I will use Petg and it will require higher temperatures.

  • @loubano
    @loubano ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and explanations !!!!
    Thank you very much 😀

  • @slicedpage
    @slicedpage ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a pair of cheap bimetal heat breaks from Amazon three months ago for my Ender 3 for £8.99. I am still using the first one. They just work.

  • @Tankslayer109
    @Tankslayer109 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This works fantastic on my ender 3 neo. I pair this and a brass/ruby nozzle for abrasive material. Reduce your retraction settings to 2mm at 80mm/s, and run a temp of 235 PLA, and 260 ABS. Carbon fiber PLA runs at 260 as well

    • @MrMikolMunoz
      @MrMikolMunoz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      were you having trouble at the lower temps?

  • @MCsCreations
    @MCsCreations ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent! Thanks a lot, Chuck! 😃
    Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

  • @sailork3506
    @sailork3506 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Chuck,Thanks. So many people are clamoring for 300C nozzle. If you made a video on how to do that, it would be so cool. No one seems to do a good one on it. The biggest challenge is the firmware upgrade. I see that Creality has just offered a 300C printer, but in small format. A max with 300C would be so worth it. I have neo 3 max.

  • @Spencer1609751
    @Spencer1609751 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Install!

  • @mamadoubapassioninformatique
    @mamadoubapassioninformatique ปีที่แล้ว

    Very instructive. Thanks for sharing.

  • @tylagismo112
    @tylagismo112 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have been desperately trying to find out how to get that front case thing off after i had a blob issue this is the only video ive found of it

  • @ComgrowOfficial
    @ComgrowOfficial ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for your review!!! You're doing very well!!😛😛

  • @rdotkey
    @rdotkey ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video. It seems Creality is mixing and matching things up a bit with their models. I have a CR-10 Smart with the same hot end shown in this video. I think the CR-10 Smart uses parts from the CR-6. I'm buying this from your link, as I switch filament often and want to gracefully transition from PLA / ABS / PETG / TPU as desired. This might just help with that.

  • @sailork3506
    @sailork3506 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey dude. Your videos are the best on TH-cam. I only watch yours and CNC kitchen (for filament and printing tips). However, the heat break is primarily due to the titanium between the top and bottom, which is a pretty good thermal insulator and doesn't conduct heat very well, not the diameter of the tube.

  • @the-matrix-has-you
    @the-matrix-has-you ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi @Chuck what an eye opening video! Thank you! just ordered all metal heatbreak from the link you provided. I have Ender 3 v2 Neo as well. I am only buying this to stop PTFE tubing not to melt and block nozzle some day. My printer is new but it is best to be prepared from the start I guess. Cause by design the stock heartbreak is a time bomb. What I wonder is Titanium heat transfer characteristics? Do you have to increase hotend temperature slightly for PLA? I am printing PLA at 210 Celsius with stock heatbreak. I have an update! Bi-metal heatbreak came installed exactly just as Chuck instructed. It works beautifully much more filament is can be extruded from nozzle with this upgrade too! Plus I don't have to worry about my PTFE tube melted one day in middle of printing... This is just awesome upgrade Chuck Thanks Man! There is no need to upgrade to slice engineering's hotend with this bi-metal heatbreak upgrade! Only thing was not exactly is the heatbreak's outer diameter is half mm bigger so I sanded down a little and then outer shell become exactly 6mm then I could insert heatbreak into the heatsink easily.

  • @octopusNavi
    @octopusNavi ปีที่แล้ว

    great tutorial! thanks

  • @Donorcyclist
    @Donorcyclist ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, Chuck! I spent $100 to upgrade my Ender 3 Pro, not aware of this printer which has all of the upgrades I purchased pre-installed. I'm still struggling through issues with my upgrades (and a possibly a failing extruder). If I'd known I could have purchased the Ender-3 Neo for under $200, I'd have just sold my Pro and purchased this one. I'd be way ahead! Hind sight, as they say...

  • @ronm6585
    @ronm6585 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sir.

  • @user-gx1sv3hj9k
    @user-gx1sv3hj9k ปีที่แล้ว +2

    these heatbreaks are the best upgrade you can make for a ptfe lined printer (imo :) )

  • @---658
    @---658 ปีที่แล้ว

    #3. Nice to see. Thanks a lot

  • @jamesc.7988
    @jamesc.7988 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just bought and installed this heat break on my Ender 3 V2 Neo. Your video was very easy to follow. But I took a really good look at the bowder tube couplers while I had everything disassembled and I'm wondering how they are replaced. Can you help me out?

  • @sailork3506
    @sailork3506 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Does this let me go past 260C in printing temp? Or do I need a better hot end? If so, which hot end works with the ender 3 neo? I have the ender 3 neo with sprite SE "direct" extruder (which really uses about a 3" piece of tube.

  • @ezioisawesome56
    @ezioisawesome56 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wanted to stop in and say: Thank you for making this video. The replacement heat break you suggested in this video was the key solution to fixing the absolutely infuriating retraction issues I was having while trying to print anything that involved a lot of retraction. (It would end up clogging the tefflon tube, requiring it to be replaced every time!) With this new part, the printer finally can finish this prints without causing a clog, and i thank you
    i do have one thing to see if you know, though. Is the Neo compatible with the Ender 3 Pro's dual z axis upgrade? Have been thinking about getting that but it does not list the neo as supported.
    thanks again!

  • @giulianom.ruggeri2289
    @giulianom.ruggeri2289 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ordered the same heatbreak, but it seems not all NEOs are manufactured equally. Even with the heatbreak cold and the heatsink heated to around 250 C I couldn't get it on to the heatbreak. I needed to result to sanding the heatsink down + use a hammer to get it on. Otherwise a grade upgrade!
    Are you planning to do more upgrade videos on it?
    BTW, Klipper firmware on the V2 Neo improves print speed without a reduction in quality immensely for this printer. Because of the all metal chassis, I don't have oscillation issues either. I've ordered an accelerometer to see how far i can push it with input shaping next.

  • @Jim_One-wl4ke
    @Jim_One-wl4ke 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good info. Thanks ❤. Anybody really measure the temperature at the heat break?

  • @ljbeng4475
    @ljbeng4475 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder why my foray into the Slice Eng heat break created prints that were under extruded but only in spots with huge holes in the print. I went back to good ole hot PTF Tube and all is perfect again. I just wanted to reduce the amount of times I change the PTF tube but it's worth the work to have better prints.

  • @soggynode
    @soggynode ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The only issues I've had with all-metal hot ends is with PLA at lower layer heights (sub .2) with a .4 nozzle or if I try to iron the top of a print. As long as I'm pushing a good amount of plastic at a decent speed, the all-metal hot ends work well. I haven't tried a bi-metal yet and that might do a better job of keeping melted material from creeping up the heat break and causing a clog.

  • @Emurga
    @Emurga ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @chrisb1601
    @chrisb1601 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, I got this installed, but I seem to be having an issue where the filament backs out or breaks off and jams against the throat. It’s stops printing, I try to manually feed because there doesn’t seem to be a clog and it won’t advance. I have to pull the tubing and reinsert the filament down the throat. Is there anything I can do to prevent this?

  • @rejeand8556
    @rejeand8556 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good evening
    I own an Ender 3V2 Neo and I would like to change the extruder and hotend for a direct drive, which would be the best model for my printer. I use PLA+ and PETG in general. Thank you for your help.
    P.S. My motherboard and firmware allow a temperature of 250°C maximum.

  • @Agustin-jo8mv
    @Agustin-jo8mv 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I will hot end upgrade be enough to be able to fun PETG filament? Thank you very much in advance> :)

  • @Joe-wk9ow
    @Joe-wk9ow ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey CHEP can you review the Crealty Sonic pad with klipperand see if it is better than the raspberry pi version of klipper?

  • @ricky2493
    @ricky2493 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank God I didn't buy the slice engineering one. You uploaded this at a perfect time since I just got my ender 3 v2 neo and was looking to upgrade this for longevity and it's so much cheaper.

    • @AniviaS
      @AniviaS ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The offbrand ones are kinda bad quality, the extra money for a Brozzl or Slice Engineering one is worth it

    • @EXTREMERC416
      @EXTREMERC416 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AniviaS if you live in the US

    • @ricky2493
      @ricky2493 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@AniviaS problem is I have the v2 neo and slice doesn't make one for this hotend

  • @acmilanfan899
    @acmilanfan899 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    CHEP, what is your opinion on this working with the NEOs? I'm seeing mixed opinions in the comments, I recently acquired an Ender 3 Max Neo and I noticed a good amount of stringing, and the adhesion could be better. I've tried a number of your recommendations and most have helped, but considering this change as well as an upgrade. Your thoughts would be appreciated with the Neos. Thanks!

  • @RoXolid
    @RoXolid ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I put one of these in my Ender 3V2 Neo and man, what a great improvement! Thanks Chuck!

    • @arduino-org-ua
      @arduino-org-ua 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Does it still work? :) I'm on my second attempt with this upgrade today. First time I got clogging after some 1 hour of print. Today I tried a heatbreak of a bit better quality + applied thermal paste - no clogging, but print quality is waaaay worse than with the stock option. Figured out that best retraction distance is not 2 mm (as people usually recommend) but 1.6 mm, it decreased stringing but it's still there.
      What changes in settings you had to make to get it working nicely?

    • @RoXolid
      @RoXolid 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@arduino-org-ua Sure does!

  • @buildersmark
    @buildersmark ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Copper/Titanium ftw Titanium blocks heat, Copper radiates so this is perfect for heatbreaks

  • @mutazmurshed7753
    @mutazmurshed7753 ปีที่แล้ว

    it will work even better if you put thermal compound before installing it !

    • @FilamentFriday
      @FilamentFriday  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’ve found no improvement in previous testing.

  • @fadedsoulltwitch
    @fadedsoulltwitch ปีที่แล้ว

    I want to try an all metal hotend, but TPU is my main filament that I use in my small business so I'm hesitant.

  • @noobt4eguns
    @noobt4eguns 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Am waiting from China the direct drive extruder for my Ender-3 and i need your opinion.i have the upgraded heat break in stock.
    Its good idea to replace the heat brake on the direct drive or i will use the new direct drive how it is?

  • @0b1w4n
    @0b1w4n 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi, i have the same printer and changed the barrel by a bimetallic one, the printers keeps clogging in the cold zone at the middle of the print. I trided from 0 to 4.5mm of retraction and from 20 to 50mm/s of velocity and keeps clogging. After days of trying i installed the old barrel with a capricorn tube

  • @stickboyfpv4742
    @stickboyfpv4742 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would this be worth doing over getting a swiss hot end? Thanks!

  • @elizabethdue4801
    @elizabethdue4801 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    FYI: I have an Ender 3 Neo Max. I had to change my retraction time to 95 and my nozzle temp to 220 with PLA or the nozzle would clog. In the long run it will prevent the PTFE tube from getting destroyed but it's not quite plug n play.

    • @teamkinetixmedia
      @teamkinetixmedia ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed, retraction settings need to be adjusted after installing this mod. What retraction settings have you found to work?

    • @elizabethdue4801
      @elizabethdue4801 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@teamkinetixmedia 95 works great

    • @teamkinetixmedia
      @teamkinetixmedia ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@elizabethdue4801 95 for what? 95mm/s retraction speed?

  • @dmugas4989
    @dmugas4989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hello chep can i ask what i your retraction settings on ender 3 neo?

  • @amartinez830
    @amartinez830 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any chance you can help me identify the two screws that go from the heat sink to the heat break? I got my neo refurbished and just noticed them missing after a clogged mess. It would be greatly appreciated.

  • @NeganSmith2224
    @NeganSmith2224 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The hotend is the same that cr 10 smart ?

  • @sailork3506
    @sailork3506 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Question: The upgraded copper heat break doesn't fit inside the aluminum heat sink when cold. I see that you are inserting it when hot. I assume that it fits better when hot? I tried this once, but didn't get it right, so I will have to do it again. I would think that, when hot, the copper would expand and be larger. You easily inserted the copper into the aluminum heat sink. Did you do anything special, like drilling out the heat sink a bit? I'm trying to get it figured out before working around the hot metal (again).

    • @Igniferi
      @Igniferi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The heat break itself is not hot, but he is inserting it into hot components.

  • @silenttraveler1647
    @silenttraveler1647 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you please do a video on the Sonic Pad…. There are no good instructional video on TH-cam as you do.

  • @mikesprague
    @mikesprague ปีที่แล้ว

    Any recommendation for a CR-10S?

  • @worldluxer19
    @worldluxer19 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very detailed and informative video! Do you think it's possible or even beneficial to upgrade the Neo's print bed to spring steel sheet as well as the display to color? Thanks.

    • @stuartsmith809
      @stuartsmith809 ปีที่แล้ว

      Iv upgraded the bed from glass to pei flexi bed (it’s prity much spring steel on magnetic sheet just with some fancy coating

  • @kiva860
    @kiva860 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got the thermal runaway out of the box did I do something wrong I followed the instructions

  • @wfs1965
    @wfs1965 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is the same as the TC4 sold on aliexpress?

  • @Zeltroix
    @Zeltroix ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Will this eliminate the need to upgrade to a capricorn ptfe tube for example?

  • @diegosebastiangr
    @diegosebastiangr ปีที่แล้ว

    Hola muchísimas gracias por el video!!. ¿Que distancia de retracción aconsejas ahora con este cambio en la Ender 3 v2 Neo?. Saludos cordiales y gracias por la ayuda!!

    • @immedinafrank
      @immedinafrank 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hola, en mi caso con una impresora igual estoy haciendo pruebas y me funciono asi 2 mm 80mm/s a 220ºC para PLA, para PETG 225ºC 5 mm 30 mm/s

    • @diegosebastiangr
      @diegosebastiangr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@immedinafrank Hola gracias por tu referencia. Si me permites darte un consejo, es demasiado rápido la velocidad de retracción, ojo que se puede quebrar en filamento, y demasiado alto la temperatura para PLA. Los valores que usas para compensar altas velocidades pueden jugarte una mala pasada en la parte mecánica. Por otro lado, usar bimetal en PLA no lo aconsejo, bajo mi experiencia, porque el material se tiende a pegar cuando no se usa un bimetal de alta calidad, es decir, un interior completamente liso. Gracias por compartir tu experiencia, igual forma te doy este consejo. Saludos cordiales!!

    • @immedinafrank
      @immedinafrank 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@diegosebastiangrGracias a mi también se me hicieron bastante altos los valores, pero con la torre de temperatura es lo que mejor se ve, sigo haciendo pruebas puesto que apenas cambie a bimetal.

  • @cotj73
    @cotj73 ปีที่แล้ว

    Has anyone tested this hot end on a Cr-6 SE? I have considered doing this on mine for a long time.

  • @yeroca
    @yeroca ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This has to do with heat conduction, not absorption. Titanium is a very poor heat conductor but has a high melting temperature, which is why it's the metal of choice here. Copper is a very good heat conductor, which allows the heat to conduct to the filament near the nozzle.

    • @MisterkeTube
      @MisterkeTube ปีที่แล้ว +2

      All those fancy bi-metal arguments only give small incremental benefits. Just stainless steel all the way is better than having the PTFE tube going to the nozzle. Sure, a bi-metal heat-break will ensure better cooling at the cold-end because of the copper there and hence make the temperature of the fillament above the small section a bit lower, but if stainless steel can get this below the glass-transition point quickly enough, then the extra gain of the copper doesn't bring much. And the melting is done at the hot side, where you have either PTFE, stainless steel or titanium up to the nozzle, which all suck for transferring heat, but that's also the intention. So the melting is to be done in the nozzle, not the heat-break. So, I'd say: at least get a $2 stainless steel all-metal heat-brake replacement as even that cheap one will be much healthier than cooked PTFE!

    • @yeroca
      @yeroca ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MisterkeTube I'm guessing that you're right, that the bi-metal aspect is only slightly more than a gimmick.
      It would be good to do some measurements to see how much the flow rate is affected by going from pure titanium to the bi-metal design.
      I'll bet CNC kitchen has done it already. I haven't bothered to look.

  • @chrismoser873
    @chrismoser873 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone have a link for an ender 3 neo firmware update that uses cr touch and can get to 300C? Thanks

  • @justinchamberlin4195
    @justinchamberlin4195 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been using all-metal heat breaks in my Ender 3 and Sidewinder X1 for a while and wouldn't go back to a standard setup ever again. With the quality metal heat breaks out there and a little tweaking to your retraction settings, there are absolutely no advantages of having PTFE in direct contact with the nozzle (while there are plenty of drawbacks).

    • @JPZEF
      @JPZEF ปีที่แล้ว +1

      how are your retraction settings

    • @justinchamberlin4195
      @justinchamberlin4195 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JPZEF On the Ender 3 with the Micro-Swiss hot end and direct-drive extruder, 1.5 mm at 35 mm/s seems to work for pretty much everything other than TPU (I last printed Ninjaflex at 0.2 mm and 50 mm/s). For the Sidewinder with either the Polisi3D or Trianglelabs bimetallic heat breaks, it's varied between 1 mm for PLA at 25 mm/s, 2 mm for PETG at 25 mm/s, and 0.5 mm at 20 mm/s for TPU.

  • @michaelbeckelheimer2850
    @michaelbeckelheimer2850 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Bud, I tried this but for some reason it's not pushing through. Its
    getting stuck I believe at the smaller Neck portion of the new heat break. This is kind of strange because I took it out and tried to push the filament through with it not Installed and it goes through just fine. I am running a bowden Capricorn Tube Not sure if that's relevant but was hoping you might have some advice. Thank you, 🙏 .

    • @VooDooTen
      @VooDooTen ปีที่แล้ว

      Get a new Bowden tube. The stock tube is fractionally larger and won't meet flush with the recess in the heat break.

  • @ronnyskf
    @ronnyskf ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Its working great , but you have to lower your extraction , from 5 mm tot 1.5 mm ...

    • @immedinafrank
      @immedinafrank 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What's your printing temp and retraction speed?

  • @pollogarciaduran13
    @pollogarciaduran13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hey chep what can i do to my ender 3 v2 neo to print carbon fiber nylon. Already got capricorn tubing, a bimetal heat break, and some steel nozzles. Do i need a better heater cartridge and some firmware? Or what else do i need? Not much info on the neos or any upgraded hot ends :(

    • @Voyajer.
      @Voyajer. 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can the neo hit 260C? If so all I would reccomend is a heated chamber and a filament dryer, nylon loves to soak up all the moisture in the air.

  • @wouldeye7161
    @wouldeye7161 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any reason you have not reviewed the Spider Hotend from Creality? Seemed to work great on my setup for Ender3 Pro.

  • @roddsmith8954
    @roddsmith8954 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi, can you change the black fitting on top of the heatsink for a normal one ,please.

    • @MalachiBrown
      @MalachiBrown ปีที่แล้ว

      I replaced the black plastic one on mine with a metal one from the Creality replacement kit.

  • @knit1924
    @knit1924 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi, I have had my creaity neo for about 1-1/2 months already, not printed on it, I ordered the all metal heat break. I wrote down the instructions, Where you say remove the filament, then use a racket to remove the nozzle. I have never used any filament yet, so excuse me for being dense, I would just proceed to remove the nozzle, right?

  • @StillBurningStudios
    @StillBurningStudios ปีที่แล้ว +1

    By chance are you going to do a review for the Creality Sonic Pad?

  • @cotj73
    @cotj73 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been looking to install a bi-metal heat break on my cr-6 se, have you tested how well this works on that?

  • @nutsnproud6932
    @nutsnproud6932 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a standard Ender 3 Pro. I wonder if there is a heat break for my printer as my Sunlu PLA+ filament needs 230C.

    • @FilamentFriday
      @FilamentFriday  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The video I linked to is the one to use,

    • @nutsnproud6932
      @nutsnproud6932 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FilamentFriday Thanks for your help. Best wishes.

  • @stevelegion
    @stevelegion ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi chuck. I hope
    You can help me. I changed the heat break to what you recommended but now my dual drive filament extruded is clicking and stops the filament from going into the hot end. Any thoughts? I’ve already taken apart the hot end and reseated the new heatbreak and made changes, but it is still happening.

    • @BarryAdams777
      @BarryAdams777 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      sounds like heat-creep. Reduce retraction and temp.

  • @BeefIngot
    @BeefIngot ปีที่แล้ว

    I really cant believe they arent standard now when they cost so little for such an improvement.

  • @RULIMAN92
    @RULIMAN92 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did this upgrade and ever since been then the print quality has gone down I even put a Capricorn tube as well! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

    • @frenchfry3636
      @frenchfry3636 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When I replaced my tubing with Capricorn I was getting underextrusion and you could tell because the layers weren’t bonding very well. I figured out that I hadn’t installed the tubing correctly and needed to push it down further and tighten it while the nozzle was around 200° and that fixed all my problems.

  • @mariusofearth2474
    @mariusofearth2474 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi found a Heatbreak for H2 V2.0 looks simular but wil it work whit the neo?

    • @andreamitchell4758
      @andreamitchell4758 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it should say compatible with CR6 I think the neo uses the same hotend as the CR6 which is an upgrade over the v2

  • @vladimiralena9129
    @vladimiralena9129 ปีที่แล้ว

    I also replaced the homo-metal on my Ender3 v.2.

  • @Offcut55
    @Offcut55 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I noticed you did not use thermal paste on the heat block? Would not that have helped more?

    • @FilamentFriday
      @FilamentFriday  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not really.

    • @joemusto5674
      @joemusto5674 ปีที่แล้ว

      I used the paste because I was getting thermal runaway on every 4th or 5th print. Adding the paste eliminated the problem. It's been 6 mo. since I added the paste and no thermal runaway.

    • @IgorPomaranskiy
      @IgorPomaranskiy 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joemusto5674what paste you used?

  • @juliporter7331
    @juliporter7331 ปีที่แล้ว

    If using this heat break would I be able to use nylon filament?

  • @Truckinman2000
    @Truckinman2000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Will this heat all metal heat break work on an Ender 3 Max Neo?

  • @rodolfovargas2621
    @rodolfovargas2621 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey chep. I haber an ender 3 pro. ITS posibble to install this on It?

    • @FilamentFriday
      @FilamentFriday  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, check the video I linked for the slice engineering one.

  • @jonrrobinson
    @jonrrobinson ปีที่แล้ว

    Would this work for the Ender 2 pro? They appear to have the same setup.

    • @FilamentFriday
      @FilamentFriday  ปีที่แล้ว

      If you use the one from slice engineering I show in the linked video.

  • @wadwdwdawdwdwd5129
    @wadwdwdawdwdwd5129 ปีที่แล้ว

    Up to what temperature can you print with this upgrade?
    What upgrades are needed to raise the temperature to 300°?

    • @bleach_drink_me
      @bleach_drink_me ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Idk what you plan to print that needs 300c but you SHOULD be able to print up to 300c with just a heatbreak and firmware swap. I don't recommend it.
      I would recommend all metal heatbreak,copper heater block,50w heater,high temp thermistor,custom firmware.

    • @wadwdwdawdwdwd5129
      @wadwdwdawdwdwd5129 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bleach_drink_me Yes, I have read that the thermistor and the heater should be used only up to 260, because they can measure to one only up to then, besides is at these ptfe, which releases toxic substances at higher temperatures.
      Do you have any recommendations for these parts (all metal heatbreak,copper heater block,50w heater,high temp thermistor)?

    • @bleach_drink_me
      @bleach_drink_me ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wadwdwdawdwdwd5129 not sure what happened to my other reply but I posted the asin number from Amazon. If you don't see it let me know.

    • @wadwdwdawdwdwd5129
      @wadwdwdawdwdwd5129 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bleach_drink_me i cant see it

    • @bleach_drink_me
      @bleach_drink_me ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wadwdwdawdwdwd5129 I just realized this was for the neo hotend. Nevermind sorry. I thought it was for the Ender 3 v2 that I had commented on before.
      If you want I can see if I can find you some upgraded parts that will work for yours.
      You could simply install the heatbreak shown in this video, 50w heater,and the golf coast or similar m3 threaded 300c thermistor.

  • @salvatoreemma-nj1ee
    @salvatoreemma-nj1ee ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey chep, are ender 2 pro heatbreaks equal to the ones for the ender 3?

  • @IanSlothieRolfe
    @IanSlothieRolfe ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did you need to change your retraction settings? I put a all metal heatbreak in my Ender 3 Max and found that it appeared to be retracting melted PLA into the cooler section of the metal path and causing blocking. I have experimented with Maker;s Muse retraction tower everything in the range 2mm-5mm but nothing seems to be "perfect" - too short and stringing and blobbing is a problem (because of he bowden tube?) and too long it seems to jam as described. Its possible I might have a problem with the filament as what I have is getting a bit old, so I haven't tried everything yet, but I just wonder if there are any other things I should look out for, I would try a direct drive extruder (which I have but needs modifying to fit) but am worried about the extra weight on the wider X carriage and I can't afford dual Z right now even if one was available for this "frankenstein" printer.

    • @FilamentFriday
      @FilamentFriday  ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn’t change mine.

    • @IanSlothieRolfe
      @IanSlothieRolfe ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FilamentFriday Hmm it may be something else then. I think I'll try getting some new filament just to eliminate that and then redo all the setup again.

    • @RonanRTW
      @RonanRTW ปีที่แล้ว

      @@IanSlothieRolfe Dry your filament

  • @MrMikolMunoz
    @MrMikolMunoz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hey chep switch out the hot end and also switch to the capricorn bowden tube but nothing come out. Any ideads? ive torn it apart twice and cant seem to find the issue

    • @teeambird2079
      @teeambird2079 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same here. I think its the fan not cooling properly

  • @StuckOnAFireHydrant
    @StuckOnAFireHydrant ปีที่แล้ว

    Does it play well with TPU out of curiosity?

    • @FilamentFriday
      @FilamentFriday  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I haven’t tested this one with TPU yet but I don’t see why it would be an issue.