Yes that’s what they need to do and fire the bad editors this season or who ever thought this season was good with all this drama y not knowing basically anyone
Yaasss!!! You are so right about it being one of the worst seasons ever! Where do you think Matt falls in between Peter and Juan Pablo bc those two had some bad seasons??🧐
@@sophiepritchett3779 I don’t believe Matt was ready. I don’t have nothing against Matt at least he didn’t propose to break up right away like Peter. Peter to me was the worst. Juan Pablo I did watch but I don’t think he was looking for a wife. We probably didn’t get to see good stuff cause it was cut out.
And the discussion on racism and racially insensitive actions. Very important issues that need to be addressed and maybe them being discussed on such a popular show will make a difference.
Tinfoil hat here: what if these seasons (Matt and Taiysha) were some sort of experiment. One full of romance, the other full of drama, both extremes. They see which get rated better/bigger reaction/make more money. Not sure if that's the case, but it would explain why we went from the best season ever to the worst season ever
I think people were theorizing this exact same thing with the last season of the Bachelorette. The first half with Clare had a lot of drama while the Tayshia’s half had more romance.
Even if you take away the racism saga, overall the season was very disappointing. There was no development of any of the relationships or the woman on the show. I knew nothing about the woman by the time the final 4 came through. I had no idea what the ladies were like. I had no insight of who Matt was as a person. It made me not care about what happened or how the show would end. Even if Matt didnt pick anyone, the editors didn't help me understand him enough as a person to see how he got to that decision. I remember seeing the moment with Sarah and Katie and thinking wow, this is such a beautiful and vulnerable moment. And we never had any of those. Ugh it was so frustrating. It was just a shame. Such a let down of a season.
So true, his personality was edited out it seemed. He was just like a cardboard cutout Bachelor and I'm sure it's not his fault but I just didn't care about him...
That’s exactly it. Barely any bachelor couples last but people still get invested. A lifelong, happy relationship isn’t what people demand, even though it’s nice to have. We have no clue who any of these people are despite watching them for God knows how many hours.
It took them 20 years to have a black bachelor and then they miserably failed Matt. The truth is they should have picked Mike J. last season instead of Peter. Mike was actually ready for an engagement.
@@lakaraj I disagree. I think there have been really good guys in the past few bachelorette seasons which make the seasons even better. But there has been too much drama with/between multiple women on the past bachelor seasons - like the tell all scene from Peter’s season where they were all yelling at each other. Now I agree the past few bachelors haven’t been great...but still the contestants is what has made it less enjoyable for me.
I agree. I have been wondering if this formula is just not conducive to men finding love. Maybe men need to be more active participants in the casting process.
Yet the last two bachelor's have all been in a great relationship with her picks, while the last two bachelorettes and soon three have broken up with their picks
I’m just glad we have a long break from The Bachelor and instead we have Katie and Michelle getting their own seasons. If they want to they can even give Abigail a season I would love that
Abigail and Bri should each get a season too, totally agree! We can just skip the bachelor all together these next two years, I’m totally good with that after this season.
@@MaryTheresa1986 no, I’m so excited to see him on paradise! I think he’d get a better edit and hopefully find his person there. He’s so entertaining though so I see where you’re coming from. But I wouldn’t have wanted him to get this group of women (or any group that is similar for that matter). I’m so excited to see him in paradise though, I’ve been looking forward to it, haha :)
Im mad that they didn’t show Matt personality because his tik tok are so funny and that they focused on “drama” I need production to learn from this because Victoria was on there way to long
@@Theotherrjas when he's with his buddies he can have a decent personality but he's not a guy looking for a relationship and the show isn't about frat boys and funny Tik Toks.
Yeah, the entire season, I just felt like Matt was this really great person who I wanted to know better. We'd get glimpses of it (when have we ever seen a bachelor ask the contestants how he can be someone that they want to be with), but I don't have an opinion of him besides "he seems awesome."
I agree! production team seemed much more interested in showing the arguments and drama between the women than Matt’s possible developing relationships with anyone. He may not have been ready for being the bachelor - because he’s so nice he spent as much time trying to moderate the name calling and fights as he did trying to find love. The producers made it a soap opera!!
Personally, I’m ready for year round bachelorette seasons. I’m not saying they shouldn’t have bachelor seasons, but like maybe we just don’t need to see them? Ok yeah I guess I’m saying we shouldn’t have bachelor seasons anymore if this is how it’s gonna be from now on LOL
@@NH-tb2sm totally agreed. I only started watching the franchise the past couple of years because of Bachelor Fantake, and so far I haven’t seen a single decent bachelor season. People say Sean Lowe was a good one. Maybe when it’s time to do a Bachelor season we just do re runs of his season episodes instead?
@@laura031253125 yes, most definitely. All three of their seasons make me go through a never ending existential crisis wondering why we’re here and what happened to my will to live.
He was but Clare had her clare freak out when she found out he did an interview prior to being on the season cause she said he was only going on for "clout" and wasn't in it for the right reason so they took him off the season and gave him his own
The only thing I liked about Matt’s Bachelor is at times he seemed genuinely interested in making sure he made the girls feel comfortable and seen/heard.
I feel men like that are the worse players. They can compartmentalize really well making multiple women feel like they’re special. Some of the women were shocked to be eliminated because they really thought they had a deep connection with him.
Ten bucks says Victoria's going to bip. Ten more dollars says Victoria from Matt's season and Victoria from Peter's season are both going to bip and are going to fight.
They are indeed both on, although I don't think Victoria from Peter's season is the one you were thinking, and it doesn't seem like either of them are gonna last that much longer.
I started watching The Bachelor last year with Peter and then Matt, so I feel like I'm shooting 0/2 right now compared to Tayshia's season being so good
Colton's season before Peter's wasn't that good either. And I know that even though Arie's season ended with a switcherooni, I think that his season was the best, most recent bachelor season that had a happy ending.
@@meganbrubaker7628 I agree that Arie's season was ok and as for Colton's season, if you compare it to Peter and Matt it was decent too. Any bachelor after Matt would be a good season. I hope Riley or Ivan will be the next Bachelor
@@NH-tb2sm I think Riley would be so interesting as bachelor but he will probably only make it to BIP. They're gonna have too many men to choose from with Katie and Michelle's seasons to go back to Clare/Tayshia and choose from them.
Forgot to mention that we didn’t know Matt because showrunners panic chose him at the height of BLM protests last summer. Which the show or Chris Harrison never addressed either.
As a bw, I personally would not be w someone w a recent racist past. But... I don't judge if the person is willing to do the work. Racism is painful so I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to be apart of that journey. How can we grow as a society if we don't forgive people who have truly learned from their past mistakes? This season was a disappointment. I think ABC used this season as a way to go off air for a while to figure out why its not working. I feel like that's why they are giving more bachelorette seasons with incredible women. But at the end of the day, ABC used Matt James, a bm. They used him as a diversity card and didn't treat him with care. And it just feels dirty. Yet I just have a feeling these next two seasons with be amazing. The cast is a bit older and the leads are incredible.
I think ABC is going to take a year pause on the bachelor to figure out why its not working. The reason seems pretty clear to the audience though. Its production. We all just know that there is a toxic environment behind the scenes where bullying is celebrated while poc do not receive the proper protection and care they deserve. Production goes out of their way to manipulate women into being nasty horrible ppl. Like I just know Anna's producer was in her ear trying to convince her that she was morally obligated to tell ppl what she heard. Production needs to do a better job at casting. Stop casting ppl under 25- they are most likely there for clout and not ready for marriage. AND START VETTING THE WOMEN. Like those photos of Rachael were on her fb... Like its not that hard to just look.
The only grade I disagree with is Matt's. He wasn't perfect, but he was good considering the circumstances, the production, and the post-season drama. If they had focused on telling the stories of Matt and the women, I think we'd be considering him one of the best bachelors. He was so kind to the women, open to sharing his feelings, didn't put up with drama once it was brought to him, and he was really open to the process. He wasn't ready for marriage, but he didn't figure that out until very late in the season. Matt is a good guy. And, most of the women seemed great too. They were all done wrong by production.
Yeah i agree, seeing his tiktok and other things makes me feel like he has a really interesting personality and could be funny but they made it all about his family issues....Not that that wouldn't affect him greatly and be part of the season, i just never learned anything else about him, and it felt exploitative that they framed it that way
I feel like I need a deep analysis of the difference between the bachelor and the bachelorette because at this point I am consistently enjoying the bachelorette and hating the bachelor. Is there some sexism happening in production where they are only seeing female contestants as valuable for the “drama” they can bring? And therefore casting more and worse dramatic women and also focusing all the editing on the drama.
I don't necessarily think it can be considered the worst season, because we got Katie and Michelle out of it - 2 bachelorette seasons that sound very promising. There were other girls that people genuinely liked and were rooting for, as well (particularly Bri and Abigail). Pilot Pete not only had a terrible season in terms of romance/drama, but we were essentially left with NO ONE to root for out of the women.
Agreed. The only thing that makes this season worse than Peter’s was how emotionally exhausting the drama outside of the episodes was. At least Peter’s was contained to the show itself. But these two seasons nearly tie otherwise.
It was an awful season, so many issues... First I'd say production seems to hold the Bachelors to a lot lower standard that the Bachelorettes. Their "formula" has been way off for some time, making it about women hating on other women and getting too young of contestants, etc. Add to that their huge blind spot about diversity and this hot mess was just WAITING to happen. Last, as you say they cast a lead who had no clue about the show and really not ready for commitment, and BOOM, dumpster fire of a season... 🙄
I think The Bachelor may need an additional web series à la Drag Race’s Untucked where we get to see the people at the mansion have their side adventures. We could see friendships grow, how the cast talks about the lead without them around, and just general humanization.
That’s how the show used to be. Every bachelor was new, only the bachelorettes were past contestants, and you got to really know people a whole lot more. Then the started frankensplicing scenes and sentences and the focus became topping the MOST dramatic season EVER! So the show can be great even with leads you don’t know. The producers just are crappy AF.
Their were some amazing woman from matt season that wasn't involved in drama and that they didn't get enough screen time because of the drama and Victoria petty childish behavior she was so toxic to watch the producer did the matt dirty and cast that drama alot of the season 🥴.
Even Michelle? She is hardly active on Instagram. I think she has 15 posts or something on her IG... Bri on the other hand is clearly vying to be an IG influencer based on her content and how frequently she posts.
Aside from a few pieces of background (for example, Sarah's father's illness) we learned little of the contestants outside of the drama on the show. These are real people with jobs, friends, etc. that we know nothing about. Michelle was an exception--she is a teacher and her students were on, showing us how she interacted with them. That right there made her the most endearing contestant for me. We need more of the "whole" person to get invested in the outcome.
This is how crazy and manipulative the show is though, we’re they even her students or did they just get a bunch of producers kids pretending? She was filming when school started, I hope to god at least they would have been her class or that they were from her school. That’s how much I trust these producers, I’m like how far will they go? And the contestants can’t say anything!
@@phoenixgirl70 I agree with you about the producers being manipulative, but I think they actually were her students... Something she posted on Instagram makes me think they are, but you never know
There was not enough time to get to know 38 women. That's their 1st mistake. Casting so so many women. Also production & editing cut so much out. Who knows what else was shared that we never saw. They made the drama the focus.
Haven’t even watched but if the answer to the question isn’t the editors then I’m gonna be shocked. Like the edit was rough I feel like the editors still have the sexist view of women and how we want to see women behave on television and this isn’t it.
Not editors but producers. Editors only put scenes in, not choose them - it's producers decision. They are creating the story we follow, editors are just doing what they are told to.
This video is spot on. Before you mentioned Elan’s exit I was thinking about how Colton’s season was the one that started the sort of a domino effect of negativity and unconventional finales. I didn’t realize that that was when Elan left. For Matt being new to the franchise, it is definitely unfortunate that really the only thing we learned about him was that he has his own inner demons stemming from his home life (his parents) that clearly can and will affect any romantic relationships he has. There may have been a bit of lightheartedness and joking tone to Matt’s tweet about finding a therapist but I imagine this experience was the catalyst for everything he’s gone through. To me that takes precedence over the drama and the women themselves and their backgrounds precisely because Matt was the lead. So yeah I definitely agree that production is to blame for that.
The heart wants what it wants. But when he loved and chose Rachael why not propose at all, clearly he was not ready and there comes controversy and a free card out.
You said it Perfectly!!! And in my opinion, Matt is very Immature and he's a Mama's boy! That Bull$ht ambush he pulled on his Dad was strickly a revenge thing on behalf of his mother, who obviously vented her hatred of him on Matt during his childhood years. THAT was obvious. I doubt she was no angel either! That conversation should have been Private and not for the whole world to see. Matt is 28 years old and should have known better. Watching his behavior with his mother, he would not have done that without her okay! She manipulated him all his life, while playing the sweet, innocent mother! 🤬🤬🤬
@@FLo-jc7ig kids dont care about having perfect parents, they just want them to be there for them which his dad wasnt. he saw that for himself. no need for his mother to manipulate him into hating his deadbeat dad
Only the last episode would have been different. Matt would have found some other excuse to leave Michelle. He said ATFR, he has commitment issues, and if he truly loved Rachel, he would've understood her culture, instead of calling her racist for going to a dance.
@@AlwaysNerdyTV wow. I have nothing against Rachael and im black. But this isnt culture. There's a difference in culture and racism. I don't think she's racist either. But to call this culture is saying all blacks like watermelon and fried chicken and whites love school shootings which is ridiculous.
@@anythingcanhappen290 Are you okay? Why would minorities go to Antebellum dances if they're racist?! Just Google pics "Antebellum Dance" if you don't believe me. Do you think they are too stupid to think for themselves or something? But, I don't care what your race is.... if you feel the need to explain your race immediatly, you encourage others to only see you as that race immediately. Plus, it doesn't give you more or less authority on objective observations of history, unless you are a racist. And you are labeling a historic dance that is about courtship as racist, because they happened in the South before the war, and AFTER THE WAR for more than 100 years, no matter the race of the person. Do you label Hawaiian Luoai's as racist because they practiced slavery during their prominence? No. Are all African traditions racist because they have and still enslave/murder albinos? No. Are all Muslim traditions homophobic because it is in their bible to stone and throw gay people off the roof? No. Matt, and the people who think it is racist to have a costume courting dance would have to preach all of the above, making themselves guilty of racism. "I shouldn't have to explain my culture and try to help Rachel understand, so I won't"- Matt, but also how I feel about having to explain all this.
@@anythingcanhappen290 saying this dance is racist is no different than calling the Bollywood dances racist, because they have 8 million slaves AS OF 2018. Why are Bollywood dances not racist, unless you're uneducated and think only black people were slaves?
@@AlwaysNerdyTV smh. I choose not to label people based on a mistake made. I never said the dance wasn't racist but at certain ages many of us did not make wise decisions. This does not mean that white culture dictates that all white southerners attend these parties. My race being mentioned was not an excuse but simply saying despite it I can see from another perspective and not label her as racist because of our differing colours. Many at this age are involved in risky behaviours that are damaging to themselves because they're living in the now. You can feel free to hold on to that but forgiveness and learning is healing and I know I'm not the only one who's understanding of this. I never said minorities would go. Simply that passing it off as a southern culture is not ok. Listen more and try to understand what is being actually being said
@@mieshonwalker8635 yes! Such a cute guy and so smart! I think he would’ve killed his own season, but also I’m very glad that neither of these guys, Mike or Ivan, got this particular group of women. They deserve better
I agree with this! I wonder what that new cast (without Victoria) would have made the show look like. I have a theory she started some sort of butterfly effect. It would’ve been a chance for Matt to not have to focus on mediating the drama constantly, and the women thus being able to prioritize romantic connections with him (instead of BS she started). As well as less drama so romance being more of the focal point. As well as less editing Matt’s personality (so obvious when you watch their own blooper reel) since he’d have to carry the show and not Victoria and her drama.
we knew production was the villian when they didnt give us a Zayshia ATFR and instead abruptly ended her season with a three minute drama packed preview of Matt's season
I appreciate that Bach Fantake isn’t even from the US and yet he’s familiar with the raunchiness of our founding fathers. I suppose we can thank “The Office” for that historical lesson, though.
Matt was a great and respectful lead. Lots of drama but that's the show. He is happy now and that's all what matters. It's about finding love and i think he did that.
I feel they did Matt so wrong!! He’s a nice decent guy who wasn’t ready for all this in the first place, but they figured since everyone loves Tyler C we will love Matt. Which is true, we love him, but we can all see how unprepared for this he was and then they gave him a horribly edited season as well. Bound to fail really😔😔
Not a spoiler but ran into a lady and her son was scouted to be on Katie’s season. So it’s definitely true that the producers look for a “fit”. Hope he goes far his name is Josh
The producers did matt so dirty, i went over to his tiktok and hes actually funny as hell. I swear, those 1 min videos had more of his personality than the entire season
Let’s keep it real. Matt did this show for clout. He was never ready for a relationship, much less an engagement. I wish they had picked Mike for Bachelor. His carisma is undeniable. 🤷🏻♀️
@@NH-tb2sm would’ve loved to see Ivan as bachelor! Partly just to watch his brother and their relationship again, because that was 1000% better than this entire season.
Jimmy Kimmel Live! had the most accurate take on this season with "The Bachelor Toddlers"... dubbing their voices with children's voices. It was EXACTLY right!!!
The word that comes to my mind is manipulation, agendas… The season didn’t have to go the way it did but I feel that production manipulated us, and the agendas of certain people pushed stuff onto Matt that he shouldn’t have to worry about and the rest of the season went downhill after that. Looks like there was a lot of good footage that could have been aired that would’ve made the season look much different but producers chose not to
Totally production’s fault. They could’ve gave us a good season. I’m so over them. They showed they can do well with Tay’s season so no excuses. I think overall Matt was a respectful, positive host who did what many Bachelors didn’t and send home the bullies. He just should’ve waited a few years before doing his season. He needs to heal and they need to not sanitize his personality out in the edit. Their own blooper reel showed his personality more than the damn season. With some therapy and a couple years, he would’ve been a great bachelor.
He tried his best. Production screwed him and unfortunately he fell in love with someone and didn’t know all the stuff that came out when he fell in love. Cut the man some slack please
I honestly blame where we’ve gotten with the show on when they casted Colton as the lead. That brought the average age way down and led to more drama etc. I still wish they would have casted Jason Tartick instead, while I’m glad he’s happy with Kaitlyn that would have kept the age range a little higher since he’s in his 30s and we probably wouldn’t have these crap seasons they’ve been giving us.
I think it’s really interesting how Victoria had a ton of screen time and she doesn’t have a following on Instagram. Completely unlike any other major cast member
She's not even a likable villian; she has no desirable traits as insulting as it sounds. Her behavior wasn't even funny or entertaining just annoying and pitiful
I blame production. I honestly feel like we didn’t get to see the fully fleshed Matt as a host because they didn’t focus on him carrying the show but Victoria + her drama. I wonder what Matt’s season would’ve been like without Victoria. We would’ve seen more of the girls and been able to emotionally invest. Tayshia had to carry her show because that drama wasn’t there so they had to flesh her out and show her romantic connections.
I’m not gonna lie, this franchise has been a saving grace for me in the past two years and I made it through 3 episodes this season before I just gave up and only watched your recaps. Not having enough of a connection to Matt, the trash casting and vetting, the choppy editing not including dates and romance, and the amount of screen time absolutely terrible people got makes my blood boil. I’m so upset that some of these girls got to be showcased on tv and now have a decent Instagram following. The entire franchise has lost its way. I’m interested in Katie and Michelle’s turns, but I haven’t been invested fully since Hannah brown. :(
Matt was a nice, caring Bachelor. Something the show has been lacking for seasons. Yes, he was boring 😂 but he didn’t manipulate or sleep with multiple ladies on the show. It’s minimal expectations, but he’s better than others we’ve seen.
This was great! I'm crossing my fingers that Bachelorette with Katie and with Michelle are both better. I typically enjoy Bachelorette more, and Tayshia's season was my absolute favorite season of the show I've seen - Bachelor or Bachelorette. I do wish that, across the board, the lead, the contestants, and the people pulling the strings - the producersss - start to honestly pursue love again. I'm done with the drama. A little drama is fun, but a lot of it is boring. I felt like I had outgrown this show mid-season. Again, hoping for something more genuinely gripping next season.
Mat did a great job. He is clearly a good person who above all else concerns himself with the feelings of the people around him, but to the detriment of himself. I think he is always so concerned about not hurting the women, or upsetting viewers, I don’t think he ever stopped to think about what he wanted. And from watching him and his mom together it seems like that instinct came from the trauma she went through when his dad left. I think when it came time to actually propose he finally thought about his own feelings, and that mixed with the doubts and fears his mom caused (I think she is the one that needs therapy) made him want to take a beat before moving forward. The issues I have with the season have everything to do with production; casting picked immature, catty women who would start drama, and women who had boyfriends (Sarah) and women with racist pasts, editing focused on the white women drama, and not the stories of the WOC Matt was having connections with, and those on site spread rumors and encouraged people like Anna and Victoria to stir the pot, pulling away from the central focus. The women were a mix bag, I liked a lot of them, but some of them were the worst the show has ever seen.
One of the most egregious things they did was allow all the escort drama to be advertised and drawn out. It should never have been aired, much less focused on. Not only can rumours like that ruin lives, it completely shits on the growing movement of sex positivity and respect for sex workers by making it this dirty taboo
I completely agree with all that was said. I was over it once the 2nd episode hit because it all turned wrong. Especially the episode when new women came in and the rumors spread I was incredibly mad at production because of how much they have damaged the show the lead and contestants. Very upsetting but I only hope things get better in the following seasons.
It is 100000% noticeable that Elan left the show. Seasons of the bachelor have always been meh, but after he left they got horrible. He was definitely keeping many aspects of the show afloat
How can production not find these controversies like with Rachel and Jed during casting when people on the internet and 5 minutes to spare can find it relatively quickly
They can and do. They just don’t care about anything else except putting on a “good show” in the words of Mike Fleiss, who is a pos who thinks only drama and a bunch of women hating on each other is a good show.
Totally AGREE. Production failed us this season and like you said after getting such a great season in Tayshia. Matt seems to have such a great personality but it was not shown all season. He needed to get to know him more or better. I remember before Juan Pablo's season we got a whole special telling us about him - though I still wasn't interested. I think they should have done the same with Matt but I think they took for granted that people "knew" Matt because he's friends with Tyler Cameron. Not everyone watched The Quarantine Crew videos. They should have at lease showed us the connection between Matt & Rachael. We certainly missed that. There seemed to be more chemistry with Matt & Michelle, at least from what they showed us. If they show more of the connection between between Matt & Rachael, maybe we could have understood more how heartbreaking it was for the both of them when the controversy came out about her antebellum photos. Also for all we know, production may have even told her not to speak all those weeks too, which was a really BAD mistake and then put Chris Harrison out there to "defend" her just made things worse. I personally believe that Chris's intentions were to get internet trolls off Rachael's back but that totally backfired when he went on his own weird and crazy rant. What an overall disappointment. I have been watching since Alex Michel was the Bachelor - the very first season and this is unfortunately, one of the worse if not the worse season in the franchise. Before this I would have most definitely said Juan Pablo's because I didn't even bother to finish watching that season. I was really looking forward to Matt's season, with him being the first Black Bachelor and me being a Black person who has been a fan of this show, who I am very aware did not cast many Black people through the years. I still watched most every season. I was so excited to see Black male lead and I was interested in seeing what Matt would bring. I hope this show can be better. I was so hopeful after seeing Tayshia's season and the cast of men on that show and the best proposal EVER in Bachelor history with Tayshia and Zac. I will say that I am hopeful for Katie and Michelle's Bachelorette's seasons though. Even the next BIP, with so many cast members to choose from. I hope the diversity in casting continues and I hope cast members stories are highlighted more going forward and they have learned their lesson. We like drama but the show is ultimately about people finding love. This is why some people I know like BIP better anyhow, more love stories and usually more lasting love stories. Thank you for the recaps. I really enjoy them and your commentary!
Three points where, in spite of everything, I think this season was still better than Peter's: - Even with the scarce screentime where it was due, this cast had several women that people rooted to become Bachelorette (Michelle, Katie, Bri, Abigail, Serena P.), whereas in Peter's season we didn't care that much for any of the women. - Matt at least had the sense of not making a proposal he wasn't truly invested in. - Not that it excuses their terrible behaviour, but at least Matt's cast was stuck in a bubble with little distraction, and it's more understandable (though not excusable) that they would obsess over petty stuff and/or became freaked out about things they normally wouldn't. Peter's women got to travel a lot (Cleveland, Costa Rica, Chile, Peru) and still caused petty unnecessary drama.
Not vetting contestants explains why we got a failed engagement in Hannah Brown's season where she picked the one guy who had a girlfriend and didn't tell anybody and where the drama was also very present with Luke P
This season is the reason I am done watching this show entirely. The franchise has changed so much - I care about the love story, not the mean drama. The producers could have done something to make this show a positive story, instead they have turned it into a negative drama story that has ruined many of the contestants emotional lives. Matt is probably very scarred too and probably will take him even longer to actually be ready to settle down.
Weirdly I think one of the main issues that I can deduce about the Bachelor seasons vs Bachelorette seasons honestly might come down to misogyny. The producers haven't figured out that just because they have over 20 women filming together that this show does not have to be Real Housewives of Nemacolin. Focusing so much on drama in the house not only takes away from the lead's love story but it also means we don't end up getting to know enough of the contestants that make it far so we don't end up caring. Sure, there's some toxic masculinity issues with the types of dates they choose on Bachelorette seasons but it doesn't seem quite as prevalent as the producer provoked "cattiness" that we get on the seasons with so many women. And the Bachelorettes tend to be praised for getting rid of anyone making trouble amongst the guys so once you get further into a season we have time to get to know people who matter before we get to the final two. The editing is the other major issue for me that reflects the show's gender role issues but that's a whole other convo.
The franchise ALSO hasn't figured out that only increasing diversity amongst cast members isn't enough because until you get anti-racist anti-misogynist people MAKING the show, we will continue to get shitty seasons even if they are slightly less visually white.
The season was such a mess it would be a great season but producer made the drama and make woman again each other and Rachel kk racist past and scandal it was very disappointing to watch 🥺😭 it was worse than peter season such a shame to watch and a waste.
I haven't watched it since, so I might be wrong, but I think the best recent bachelor season was Arie's. I still remember him, his interests, his family (even though I have not watched Emily's season) We got to know the girls. Bekah loved climbing, Kendall did taxidermy, tia had the southern charm. The season had a villain, crystal, and she was annoying, but the annoyance didn't overpower the romance. The ending was chaotic, but Becca came out of it stronger, empowered and getting the Bachelorette. Arie got hate, but he also found love, and you can't hate love. If the editing was different you wouldn't know the girls, so you won't be rooting for anyone, you wouldn't feel bad for becca, or happy for Arie. A villain is important to get you through the first 5 episodes, but the villain, for it to work, has to be a contender. The girls personalities have to be showcased. The leads feelings have to be heard. Or else you get the last 2 , even 3 seasons
Bachelor Fantake, you should reevaluate Peter’s season because it was much better to watch than Matt’s and compare the similarities and differences between Peter’s season and Matt’s season
I dont think so cuz Peter doesn't have the excuse of no experience. He just doesn't have a spine. He chose Hannah cuz of his family flipflopped back to his choice and promptly dismissed her cuz mommy knows best.
Eh that would still be pretty hard to tell since his season wasn't during a pandemic. His season had destinations that made it more fun/entertaining so it would be hard to do. Also two different family dynamics when it comes to Peter vs Matt
What a disaster of a season. And ratings reflected that. This season pulled 25% FEWER viewers than Peter's and Colton's. For the first time, the show lost many nights in total viewers (The Voice and 9-1-1 pulled consistently more viewers every night). Matt was the worst Bachelor in years, the contestants were immature and bullies, Rachael was mess and she gave Matt an easy way out (we knew he was not ready to settle down; he's a f-ck boy), and then there was all the controversy and chaos happening outside the show. A MESS...
Lets get real! Matt was never in it with interest to be with someone. That's why he initially was picked. He liked his pal's clout so he wanted to go on Clare's season and come off like golden boy Tyler. Producers saw the attention he got over that and they wanted messy black lead, because they wanted to prove why they pick whites. And Matt being the less black christian man there is, was a major score for them. That's why they didn't go with someone like....well MIKE! But they didn't expect all Rachael downfall for sure. As to general viewers that's not an issue as they are mostly conservative.
if anything this teaches us we have got to stop casting contestants who claim they’ve never been in love before like if you can’t find it in the real world what’s making you think you can get engaged in such a short period of time,,, leads like that always just seem disinterested
I don’t know if I would agree that Matt handled the drama poorly. It definitely took him a second to catch on with what was happening in the house (which I think is reasonable considering how separate they keep the leads from the contestants), but the second he found out what was going on, he sent home literally every girl who participated in the bullying. I think he handled Anna with grace by telling her he didn’t think she was a bad person, we’ve all said things we regret, but she can’t be his wife. I’m not saying he handled the drama perfectly, I’m just saying that a lot of these mediocre bachelors have handled the drama way worse. Let’s not forget REDACTED’s terrible detective skills on his season.
The Bachelor should just hire you. I stopped watching entirely midway through Colton's season but I watch ALL of your recaps because you still manage to make it compelling.
I also think 38 women is wayyyyyyy too many women for a 2 month period. For it's one of the reasons why we couldn't develop a deeper connection to relationships. Just too too many women. 30 would have been enough.
I couldn't agree with you more. I really miss the romance of the early seasons. It just feels like an endurance test now with no payoff in the end. They should at least do a better job of vetting the lead to ensure they aren't just there for self-promotion. I think the line that gave it away for me was when Matt said, I've seen this process work for Tyler. That's when I knew he was only seeking self-promotion and not love. We need a lead who is looking for love. That lead will weed out the contestants who aren't, like Taisha's season. Matt was a poor choice. I believe he took the role to promote himself and is now paying dearly for that poor choice.
DO YOU THINK YOU COULD DO A VID ABOUT HOW THE BACHELOR HAS CHANGED!? I had no idea about the producer that walked away! The unconventional endings and drama-intensive seasons really did start with him!! The only exception was Taysha bc she didnt take their shit. I would be super interested a video about this!
I'm a really awkward person who often doesn't know what to say when someone shares something important with me. So when Matt kept saying, 'thank you for sharing that with me' I thought 'oh that must be what's said during those times I'm going to try that out' oh my that didn't turn out well and I learned it was an even more off-putting response. I just laugh/cringe now whenever someone mentions it. 😅
Release The Bachelor Snyder Cut.
Ok that supervoid edit made me actually laugh out loud. These videos are the one shining light in the Vantablack darkness that is the Bachelor lately.
Bless your heart for covering this season so bravely! Thank you for your service 🙏🏼 the only way after this is up
Yes that’s what they need to do and fire the bad editors this season or who ever thought this season was good with all this drama y not knowing basically anyone
Yaasss!!! You are so right about it being one of the worst seasons ever! Where do you think Matt falls in between Peter and Juan Pablo bc those two had some bad seasons??🧐
@@sophiepritchett3779 I don’t believe Matt was ready. I don’t have nothing against Matt at least he didn’t propose to break up right away like Peter. Peter to me was the worst. Juan Pablo I did watch but I don’t think he was looking for a wife. We probably didn’t get to see good stuff cause it was cut out.
To me, watching this season feels like a complete waste! It’s like drinking a disgusting drink and not even getting a buzz, only a hangover 🤢
Not only that but the drink was awful too
😂
It’s 2% alcohol wine coolers for sure
Could not have said it better myself! Yikes
@@MathPiHanan 🙌🌹
The only good things to come out of this season are the next two bachelorettes, Katie and Michelle!
And Bri, Magi and Abigail👏🏾
I really like Michelle!! Glad she will have a chance to find a real man!😄
And the discussion on racism and racially insensitive actions. Very important issues that need to be addressed and maybe them being discussed on such a popular show will make a difference.
Michelle is a gem!
Chelsea is 🔥
Production deserves an F minus for this season
Give em the electric chair 💀
Hell even a Z minus
I’d say expulsion for rampant academic dishonesty
it almost feels like tayshia's season and matt's season had entirely different production teams
I think so too.
Tinfoil hat here: what if these seasons (Matt and Taiysha) were some sort of experiment. One full of romance, the other full of drama, both extremes. They see which get rated better/bigger reaction/make more money. Not sure if that's the case, but it would explain why we went from the best season ever to the worst season ever
🤯
Funny enough I posed the exact same thing on a reddit thread. We might be onto something.
haha while I love this theory, they should know what the premise of the show is so they should know which one people will like more
To be honest, I would believe it. This is a manipulative outfit!
I think people were theorizing this exact same thing with the last season of the Bachelorette. The first half with Clare had a lot of drama while the Tayshia’s half had more romance.
Even if you take away the racism saga, overall the season was very disappointing. There was no development of any of the relationships or the woman on the show. I knew nothing about the woman by the time the final 4 came through. I had no idea what the ladies were like. I had no insight of who Matt was as a person. It made me not care about what happened or how the show would end.
Even if Matt didnt pick anyone, the editors didn't help me understand him enough as a person to see how he got to that decision.
I remember seeing the moment with Sarah and Katie and thinking wow, this is such a beautiful and vulnerable moment. And we never had any of those. Ugh it was so frustrating.
It was just a shame. Such a let down of a season.
So true, his personality was edited out it seemed. He was just like a cardboard cutout Bachelor and I'm sure it's not his fault but I just didn't care about him...
That’s exactly it. Barely any bachelor couples last but people still get invested. A lifelong, happy relationship isn’t what people demand, even though it’s nice to have. We have no clue who any of these people are despite watching them for God knows how many hours.
@@erinkoster8654 I love your comment.
Rassssism? Because she went to a party wearing a dress from the 1850’s?? Yea, that’s all kind of rasssis...
It took them 20 years to have a black bachelor and then they miserably failed Matt. The truth is they should have picked Mike J. last season instead of Peter. Mike was actually ready for an engagement.
Agreed!
No mike instead of Matt
True they rushed into picking a black Bachelor and should have just waited for the right person to come up if Mike declined
I wanted Bennett for Bachelor. Maybe next time. 🤞🤞
@@Varaidzo1 💯
At least this season gave us Katie and Michelle. Peter’s season gave us nothing.
Im already scared and exhausted to see peters girls on paradise... mix that with matts bully girls and I am done watching
Did it not give us Barb?! Don't let her go!
@@wendy2547 bring her home!!!
@@wendy2547 but we liked barb a lot more before peters season 😭
Love Katie
It seems like, routinely, any new Bachelor season is one of the worst and any new Bachelorette season feels like one of the best.
Truer words were never spoken.💯
do men just ruin everything? maybe it’s easier for them to be manipulated by producers
@@lakaraj I disagree. I think there have been really good guys in the past few bachelorette seasons which make the seasons even better. But there has been too much drama with/between multiple women on the past bachelor seasons - like the tell all scene from Peter’s season where they were all yelling at each other. Now I agree the past few bachelors haven’t been great...but still the contestants is what has made it less enjoyable for me.
I agree. I have been wondering if this formula is just not conducive to men finding love. Maybe men need to be more active participants in the casting process.
Yet the last two bachelor's have all been in a great relationship with her picks, while the last two bachelorettes and soon three have broken up with their picks
I’m just glad we have a long break from The Bachelor and instead we have Katie and Michelle getting their own seasons. If they want to they can even give Abigail a season I would love that
Abigail and Bri should each get a season too, totally agree! We can just skip the bachelor all together these next two years, I’m totally good with that after this season.
@@annahayden Sounds good to me, although I'd *love* to see Bennett as the Bachelor. 🤩🤩
Unpopular opinion Abigail is too boring to be the lead. But excited to see her in Paradise
@@elizajanegoodrich8878 we don’t really know because they edited her out almost entirely from the show
@@MaryTheresa1986 no, I’m so excited to see him on paradise! I think he’d get a better edit and hopefully find his person there. He’s so entertaining though so I see where you’re coming from. But I wouldn’t have wanted him to get this group of women (or any group that is similar for that matter). I’m so excited to see him in paradise though, I’ve been looking forward to it, haha :)
Im mad that they didn’t show Matt personality because his tik tok are so funny and that they focused on “drama” I need production to learn from this because Victoria was on there way to long
Matt was only there for clout and to hookup with beautiful women. He only has personality when he's his real frat boy self with his buddies
@@NH-tb2sm I watched a couple of his tik toks and they were funny
@@Theotherrjas when he's with his buddies he can have a decent personality but he's not a guy looking for a relationship and the show isn't about frat boys and funny Tik Toks.
Yeah, the entire season, I just felt like Matt was this really great person who I wanted to know better. We'd get glimpses of it (when have we ever seen a bachelor ask the contestants how he can be someone that they want to be with), but I don't have an opinion of him besides "he seems awesome."
I agree! production team seemed much more interested in showing the arguments and drama between the women than Matt’s possible developing relationships with anyone. He may not have been ready for being the bachelor - because he’s so nice he spent as much time trying to moderate the name calling and fights as he did trying to find love. The producers made it a soap opera!!
This was Victoria's season and after that it became "Rachel's really gonna make it all the way to the end, huh?". Matt just didn't exist.
Personally, I’m ready for year round bachelorette seasons. I’m not saying they shouldn’t have bachelor seasons, but like maybe we just don’t need to see them? Ok yeah I guess I’m saying we shouldn’t have bachelor seasons anymore if this is how it’s gonna be from now on LOL
Between Peter and Matt I'm so done with the Bachelor, and seasons of only Bachelorette and BIP would be perfectly fine.
@@NH-tb2sm totally agreed. I only started watching the franchise the past couple of years because of Bachelor Fantake, and so far I haven’t seen a single decent bachelor season. People say Sean Lowe was a good one. Maybe when it’s time to do a Bachelor season we just do re runs of his season episodes instead?
@@NH-tb2sm don’t forget Colton, I would lump his season in with theirs too
@@laura031253125 as bad as Colton's season was it was still better than Matt's and Peter's season. That's how bad the last 2 seasons were.
@@laura031253125 yes, most definitely. All three of their seasons make me go through a never ending existential crisis wondering why we’re here and what happened to my will to live.
I honestly feel bad for matt. Producers screwed him so hard. He should have just been on Claire’s/Tayshia season as a contestant.
I agree. I was saying that as I was watching this video.
He was but Clare had her clare freak out when she found out he did an interview prior to being on the season cause she said he was only going on for "clout" and wasn't in it for the right reason so they took him off the season and gave him his own
I wonder how far he would have made
tbh, watching his season i don’t think he was ready to be married he’s to damaged from his father leaving. he has to deal with some things
@@lakaraj And it didn’t help that his mom had to insert HER fears onto him. I hope Rachael runs for the hills
The only thing I liked about Matt’s Bachelor is at times he seemed genuinely interested in making sure he made the girls feel comfortable and seen/heard.
He had to show interest because he wanted to hook up with them. Matt played every woman there.
I know what you mean, I saw this at times too
But then again he wouldnt even meet with michelle to give her closure
I feel men like that are the worse players. They can compartmentalize really well making multiple women feel like they’re special. Some of the women were shocked to be eliminated because they really thought they had a deep connection with him.
I really liked him the first couple of weeks, but production made him look worse as the show went on.
I hope the Bachelor producers watch your videos with a notebook and pencil in hand
I fully agree!!
Ten bucks says Victoria's going to bip. Ten more dollars says Victoria from Matt's season and Victoria from Peter's season are both going to bip and are going to fight.
I hate myself for wanting this
I hope they don’t invite Victoria from Matt’s season, she’s too much to the point where it’s just cringe
Looks like you are correct
They are indeed both on, although I don't think Victoria from Peter's season is the one you were thinking, and it doesn't seem like either of them are gonna last that much longer.
I really disliked this season, it was boring, unpleasant to watch. Your recaps were the only fun part🌹
Bachelor, release the footage of Abigail and Magi, or I walk.
I started watching The Bachelor last year with Peter and then Matt, so I feel like I'm shooting 0/2 right now compared to Tayshia's season being so good
The 2 worst Bachelor seasons
Colton's season before Peter's wasn't that good either. And I know that even though Arie's season ended with a switcherooni, I think that his season was the best, most recent bachelor season that had a happy ending.
@@meganbrubaker7628 I agree that Arie's season was ok and as for Colton's season, if you compare it to Peter and Matt it was decent too. Any bachelor after Matt would be a good season. I hope Riley or Ivan will be the next Bachelor
Watch Sean’s on hulu. You’re welcome
@@NH-tb2sm I think Riley would be so interesting as bachelor but he will probably only make it to BIP. They're gonna have too many men to choose from with Katie and Michelle's seasons to go back to Clare/Tayshia and choose from them.
Forgot to mention that we didn’t know Matt because showrunners panic chose him at the height of BLM protests last summer. Which the show or Chris Harrison never addressed either.
That's exactly it, and it was so weird because it's not like they were putting pressure on ABC but somehow they panicked and screwed up
@@designstudio8013 what a fun take
As a bw, I personally would not be w someone w a recent racist past. But... I don't judge if the person is willing to do the work. Racism is painful so I don't blame anyone who doesn't want to be apart of that journey. How can we grow as a society if we don't forgive people who have truly learned from their past mistakes? This season was a disappointment. I think ABC used this season as a way to go off air for a while to figure out why its not working. I feel like that's why they are giving more bachelorette seasons with incredible women. But at the end of the day, ABC used Matt James, a bm. They used him as a diversity card and didn't treat him with care. And it just feels dirty. Yet I just have a feeling these next two seasons with be amazing. The cast is a bit older and the leads are incredible.
THIS
I think ABC is going to take a year pause on the bachelor to figure out why its not working. The reason seems pretty clear to the audience though. Its production. We all just know that there is a toxic environment behind the scenes where bullying is celebrated while poc do not receive the proper protection and care they deserve. Production goes out of their way to manipulate women into being nasty horrible ppl. Like I just know Anna's producer was in her ear trying to convince her that she was morally obligated to tell ppl what she heard. Production needs to do a better job at casting. Stop casting ppl under 25- they are most likely there for clout and not ready for marriage. AND START VETTING THE WOMEN. Like those photos of Rachael were on her fb... Like its not that hard to just look.
@@hannahsanders1727 THE CASTING!!!! oo
And I had such high hopes for Matt's season!
Me too, and I couldn't even make it all the way through! 😵😵
The only grade I disagree with is Matt's. He wasn't perfect, but he was good considering the circumstances, the production, and the post-season drama. If they had focused on telling the stories of Matt and the women, I think we'd be considering him one of the best bachelors. He was so kind to the women, open to sharing his feelings, didn't put up with drama once it was brought to him, and he was really open to the process. He wasn't ready for marriage, but he didn't figure that out until very late in the season. Matt is a good guy. And, most of the women seemed great too. They were all done wrong by production.
Yeah i agree, seeing his tiktok and other things makes me feel like he has a really interesting personality and could be funny but they made it all about his family issues....Not that that wouldn't affect him greatly and be part of the season, i just never learned anything else about him, and it felt exploitative that they framed it that way
I feel like I need a deep analysis of the difference between the bachelor and the bachelorette because at this point I am consistently enjoying the bachelorette and hating the bachelor. Is there some sexism happening in production where they are only seeing female contestants as valuable for the “drama” they can bring? And therefore casting more and worse dramatic women and also focusing all the editing on the drama.
I don't necessarily think it can be considered the worst season, because we got Katie and Michelle out of it - 2 bachelorette seasons that sound very promising. There were other girls that people genuinely liked and were rooting for, as well (particularly Bri and Abigail). Pilot Pete not only had a terrible season in terms of romance/drama, but we were essentially left with NO ONE to root for out of the women.
That's a positive spin on this disaster of a season.
I actually like a lot of the cast in this season, what I feel was bad was the production.
@@tulip5210 if the lead is a disaster it doesn't matter how great the cast is.
Agreed. The only thing that makes this season worse than Peter’s was how emotionally exhausting the drama outside of the episodes was. At least Peter’s was contained to the show itself. But these two seasons nearly tie otherwise.
Oh remember when Pete’s season ended and that’s when quarantine started?!? Then we found out about Pete’s quarantine house with Hannah and Kelly 😳.
It was an awful season, so many issues... First I'd say production seems to hold the Bachelors to a lot lower standard that the Bachelorettes. Their "formula" has been way off for some time, making it about women hating on other women and getting too young of contestants, etc. Add to that their huge blind spot about diversity and this hot mess was just WAITING to happen. Last, as you say they cast a lead who had no clue about the show and really not ready for commitment, and BOOM, dumpster fire of a season... 🙄
you do realize that most people have to quit their jons and pay for everything. maybe a lot of girl dont want to do that
Just FYI, being a mean catty girl ain't cute. Don't follow their footsteps, ladies!
I don’t think Matt was the biggest problem. The producers control the show.
Honestly I blame production. I need something like Tayshia’s season again. 🤷🏻♀️😒✨
I think The Bachelor may need an additional web series à la Drag Race’s Untucked where we get to see the people at the mansion have their side adventures. We could see friendships grow, how the cast talks about the lead without them around, and just general humanization.
That’s how the show used to be. Every bachelor was new, only the bachelorettes were past contestants, and you got to really know people a whole lot more. Then the started frankensplicing scenes and sentences and the focus became topping the MOST dramatic season EVER! So the show can be great even with leads you don’t know. The producers just are crappy AF.
"What is are the words you think of, when you think of this seaso-"
"Thank you for sharing."
I hope the producers are watching this so they can learn about what they viewers really want
Their were some amazing woman from matt season that wasn't involved in drama and that they didn't get enough screen time because of the drama and Victoria petty childish behavior she was so toxic to watch the producer did the matt dirty and cast that drama alot of the season 🥴.
Am I the only one who thinks that it’s pretty obvious that every single one of these people just want fame so they can be IG influencers?
Even Michelle? She is hardly active on Instagram. I think she has 15 posts or something on her IG... Bri on the other hand is clearly vying to be an IG influencer based on her content and how frequently she posts.
Aside from a few pieces of background (for example, Sarah's father's illness) we learned little of the contestants outside of the drama on the show. These are real people with jobs, friends, etc. that we know nothing about. Michelle was an exception--she is a teacher and her students were on, showing us how she interacted with them. That right there made her the most endearing contestant for me. We need more of the "whole" person to get invested in the outcome.
Michelle's students were my favorite part of the season ngl. It is was wholesome and pure in a season of mess and drama
This is how crazy and manipulative the show is though, we’re they even her students or did they just get a bunch of producers kids pretending? She was filming when school started, I hope to god at least they would have been her class or that they were from her school. That’s how much I trust these producers, I’m like how far will they go? And the contestants can’t say anything!
@@phoenixgirl70 I agree with you about the producers being manipulative, but I think they actually were her students... Something she posted on Instagram makes me think they are, but you never know
There was not enough time to get to know 38 women. That's their 1st mistake. Casting so so many women. Also production & editing cut so much out. Who knows what else was shared that we never saw. They made the drama the focus.
Haven’t even watched but if the answer to the question isn’t the editors then I’m gonna be shocked. Like the edit was rough I feel like the editors still have the sexist view of women and how we want to see women behave on television and this isn’t it.
Not editors but producers. Editors only put scenes in, not choose them - it's producers decision. They are creating the story we follow, editors are just doing what they are told to.
@@saraswiercz8709 sorry my bad. I mean editors as in story editors who are sometimes called story producers.
@@Entrantress nah. It's ok 😊
This video is spot on. Before you mentioned Elan’s exit I was thinking about how Colton’s season was the one that started the sort of a domino effect of negativity and unconventional finales. I didn’t realize that that was when Elan left. For Matt being new to the franchise, it is definitely unfortunate that really the only thing we learned about him was that he has his own inner demons stemming from his home life (his parents) that clearly can and will affect any romantic relationships he has. There may have been a bit of lightheartedness and joking tone to Matt’s tweet about finding a therapist but I imagine this experience was the catalyst for everything he’s gone through. To me that takes precedence over the drama and the women themselves and their backgrounds precisely because Matt was the lead. So yeah I definitely agree that production is to blame for that.
Matt got engaged to racism instead of a lovely girl who gave him her heart, oh the irony.
The heart wants what it wants. But when he loved and chose Rachael why not propose at all, clearly he was not ready and there comes controversy and a free card out.
You said it Perfectly!!! And in my opinion, Matt is very Immature and he's a Mama's boy! That Bull$ht ambush he pulled on his Dad was strickly a revenge thing on behalf of his mother, who obviously vented her hatred of him on Matt during his childhood years. THAT was obvious. I doubt she was no angel either! That conversation should have been Private and not for the whole world to see. Matt is 28 years old and should have known better. Watching his behavior with his mother, he would not have done that without her okay! She manipulated him all his life, while playing the sweet, innocent mother! 🤬🤬🤬
@@FLo-jc7ig kids dont care about having perfect parents, they just want them to be there for them which his dad wasnt. he saw that for himself. no need for his mother to manipulate him into hating his deadbeat dad
If Matt picked anyone but Rachael, this season would have been so different.
Only the last episode would have been different. Matt would have found some other excuse to leave Michelle. He said ATFR, he has commitment issues, and if he truly loved Rachel, he would've understood her culture, instead of calling her racist for going to a dance.
@@AlwaysNerdyTV wow. I have nothing against Rachael and im black. But this isnt culture. There's a difference in culture and racism. I don't think she's racist either. But to call this culture is saying all blacks like watermelon and fried chicken and whites love school shootings which is ridiculous.
@@anythingcanhappen290 Are you okay? Why would minorities go to Antebellum dances if they're racist?! Just Google pics "Antebellum Dance" if you don't believe me. Do you think they are too stupid to think for themselves or something? But, I don't care what your race is.... if you feel the need to explain your race immediatly, you encourage others to only see you as that race immediately. Plus, it doesn't give you more or less authority on objective observations of history, unless you are a racist. And you are labeling a historic dance that is about courtship as racist, because they happened in the South before the war, and AFTER THE WAR for more than 100 years, no matter the race of the person. Do you label Hawaiian Luoai's as racist because they practiced slavery during their prominence? No. Are all African traditions racist because they have and still enslave/murder albinos? No. Are all Muslim traditions homophobic because it is in their bible to stone and throw gay people off the roof? No. Matt, and the people who think it is racist to have a costume courting dance would have to preach all of the above, making themselves guilty of racism. "I shouldn't have to explain my culture and try to help Rachel understand, so I won't"- Matt, but also how I feel about having to explain all this.
@@anythingcanhappen290 saying this dance is racist is no different than calling the Bollywood dances racist, because they have 8 million slaves AS OF 2018. Why are Bollywood dances not racist, unless you're uneducated and think only black people were slaves?
@@AlwaysNerdyTV smh. I choose not to label people based on a mistake made. I never said the dance wasn't racist but at certain ages many of us did not make wise decisions. This does not mean that white culture dictates that all white southerners attend these parties. My race being mentioned was not an excuse but simply saying despite it I can see from another perspective and not label her as racist because of our differing colours. Many at this age are involved in risky behaviours that are damaging to themselves because they're living in the now. You can feel free to hold on to that but forgiveness and learning is healing and I know I'm not the only one who's understanding of this. I never said minorities would go. Simply that passing it off as a southern culture is not ok. Listen more and try to understand what is being actually being said
In conclusion, Matt's season was a s*** show and a waste of everybody's time...
Almost. We did get great women for Bachelorette
What words? “Thank you for sharing that”
All this when we could have had Mike
Or Ivan! Him and his family are amazing, would’ve loved to see more of them. The 10 minute scene with his brother was better than this whole season
@@annahayden I loved Ivan! He was so adorable.
@@mieshonwalker8635 yes! Such a cute guy and so smart! I think he would’ve killed his own season, but also I’m very glad that neither of these guys, Mike or Ivan, got this particular group of women. They deserve better
Or Eric or Kenny from Rachel’s season.
My grades
Matt: C (first two weeks was an A +)
The cast: F
The cast without Victoria: B+
Romance: D
Production: F - - - - -
I agree with this! I wonder what that new cast (without Victoria) would have made the show look like. I have a theory she started some sort of butterfly effect. It would’ve been a chance for Matt to not have to focus on mediating the drama constantly, and the women thus being able to prioritize romantic connections with him (instead of BS she started). As well as less drama so romance being more of the focal point. As well as less editing Matt’s personality (so obvious when you watch their own blooper reel) since he’d have to carry the show and not Victoria and her drama.
we knew production was the villian when they didnt give us a Zayshia ATFR and instead abruptly ended her season with a three minute drama packed preview of Matt's season
The fact that Katie was so popular just shows that the audience is craving more maturity and less drama.
Your editing is outstanding! Looking forward to the bachelorette for the actual romance. I don't think Katie or Michelle will stand for drama
I appreciate that Bach Fantake isn’t even from the US and yet he’s familiar with the raunchiness of our founding fathers. I suppose we can thank “The Office” for that historical lesson, though.
Matt was a great and respectful lead. Lots of drama but that's the show. He is happy now and that's all what matters. It's about finding love and i think he did that.
I feel they did Matt so wrong!! He’s a nice decent guy who wasn’t ready for all this in the first place, but they figured since everyone loves Tyler C we will love Matt. Which is true, we love him, but we can all see how unprepared for this he was and then they gave him a horribly edited season as well. Bound to fail really😔😔
I still think Peter's was the worst.
This season was worse than Peter's season which say a lot.
These girls make the girls on Peter's look like saints. There was more romance with Peter's seasons than Matt's seasons.
I think Matt's season was the worst ever!
I AGREE. This season at least had woman who were likeable!
@@AbigaillOwusu Had a lot of back stabbing on Matt's, drama!
Not a spoiler but ran into a lady and her son was scouted to be on Katie’s season. So it’s definitely true that the producers look for a “fit”. Hope he goes far his name is Josh
The producers did matt so dirty, i went over to his tiktok and hes actually funny as hell. I swear, those 1 min videos had more of his personality than the entire season
Let’s keep it real. Matt did this show for clout. He was never ready for a relationship, much less an engagement. I wish they had picked Mike for Bachelor. His carisma is undeniable. 🤷🏻♀️
Riley or Ivan would've been better
@@NH-tb2sm would’ve loved to see Ivan as bachelor! Partly just to watch his brother and their relationship again, because that was 1000% better than this entire season.
I totally agree, but Mike is also not ready for an engagement. We need people like Doc Joe or Brendan.
@@valentinareverte3226 Mike isn't ready for an engagement but the same goes for Brendan.
Someone who cleared their social media and is staying out of the limelight including interviews is about clout really smh.
Jimmy Kimmel Live! had the most accurate take on this season with "The Bachelor Toddlers"... dubbing their voices with children's voices. It was EXACTLY right!!!
The word that comes to my mind is manipulation, agendas… The season didn’t have to go the way it did but I feel that production manipulated us, and the agendas of certain people pushed stuff onto Matt that he shouldn’t have to worry about and the rest of the season went downhill after that. Looks like there was a lot of good footage that could have been aired that would’ve made the season look much different but producers chose not to
Totally production’s fault. They could’ve gave us a good season. I’m so over them. They showed they can do well with Tay’s season so no excuses. I think overall Matt was a respectful, positive host who did what many Bachelors didn’t and send home the bullies. He just should’ve waited a few years before doing his season. He needs to heal and they need to not sanitize his personality out in the edit. Their own blooper reel showed his personality more than the damn season. With some therapy and a couple years, he would’ve been a great bachelor.
He tried his best. Production screwed him and unfortunately he fell in love with someone and didn’t know all the stuff that came out when he fell in love. Cut the man some slack please
Editing out everything but they couldn’t edit out the escort drama? So stupid.
I really do want a “most romantic season ever ” versus “most dramatic season ever” !!!
I honestly blame where we’ve gotten with the show on when they casted Colton as the lead. That brought the average age way down and led to more drama etc. I still wish they would have casted Jason Tartick instead, while I’m glad he’s happy with Kaitlyn that would have kept the age range a little higher since he’s in his 30s and we probably wouldn’t have these crap seasons they’ve been giving us.
I think Matt is emotionally unavailable and the conversation with his mom was his “way out.”
Just when you think it cant get worse than Peter's season lol
I think it’s really interesting how Victoria had a ton of screen time and she doesn’t have a following on Instagram. Completely unlike any other major cast member
She's not even a likable villian; she has no desirable traits as insulting as it sounds. Her behavior wasn't even funny or entertaining just annoying and pitiful
@@pixiestxNyomouf it was so unbelievable at that like a mean girl from a high school movie from the 2000s
I blame production. I honestly feel like we didn’t get to see the fully fleshed Matt as a host because they didn’t focus on him carrying the show but Victoria + her drama. I wonder what Matt’s season would’ve been like without Victoria. We would’ve seen more of the girls and been able to emotionally invest. Tayshia had to carry her show because that drama wasn’t there so they had to flesh her out and show her romantic connections.
His use of clips from other shows KILL ME!!!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I’m not gonna lie, this franchise has been a saving grace for me in the past two years and I made it through 3 episodes this season before I just gave up and only watched your recaps. Not having enough of a connection to Matt, the trash casting and vetting, the choppy editing not including dates and romance, and the amount of screen time absolutely terrible people got makes my blood boil. I’m so upset that some of these girls got to be showcased on tv and now have a decent Instagram following. The entire franchise has lost its way. I’m interested in Katie and Michelle’s turns, but I haven’t been invested fully since Hannah brown. :(
"When you stop, close your eyes, and think of the words you associate with the season, what are those words?"
Me: shit show
Matt was a nice, caring Bachelor. Something the show has been lacking for seasons. Yes, he was boring 😂 but he didn’t manipulate or sleep with multiple ladies on the show. It’s minimal expectations, but he’s better than others we’ve seen.
This was great! I'm crossing my fingers that Bachelorette with Katie and with Michelle are both better. I typically enjoy Bachelorette more, and Tayshia's season was my absolute favorite season of the show I've seen - Bachelor or Bachelorette. I do wish that, across the board, the lead, the contestants, and the people pulling the strings - the producersss - start to honestly pursue love again. I'm done with the drama. A little drama is fun, but a lot of it is boring. I felt like I had outgrown this show mid-season. Again, hoping for something more genuinely gripping next season.
I'm so glad we get a break this toxic season so that we can see Katie and Michelle season and journey unfold 🤗 that was the best part of his season.
Mat did a great job. He is clearly a good person who above all else concerns himself with the feelings of the people around him, but to the detriment of himself. I think he is always so concerned about not hurting the women, or upsetting viewers, I don’t think he ever stopped to think about what he wanted. And from watching him and his mom together it seems like that instinct came from the trauma she went through when his dad left. I think when it came time to actually propose he finally thought about his own feelings, and that mixed with the doubts and fears his mom caused (I think she is the one that needs therapy) made him want to take a beat before moving forward.
The issues I have with the season have everything to do with production; casting picked immature, catty women who would start drama, and women who had boyfriends (Sarah) and women with racist pasts, editing focused on the white women drama, and not the stories of the WOC Matt was having connections with, and those on site spread rumors and encouraged people like Anna and Victoria to stir the pot, pulling away from the central focus.
The women were a mix bag, I liked a lot of them, but some of them were the worst the show has ever seen.
honestly, they should fire the entire Production team. you can get better writters and Producers even in the wwe.
This season was such a mess😭😭
the word that comes to my head for the season is "victoria" 😭🖐️
and "LITERALLY"
One of the most egregious things they did was allow all the escort drama to be advertised and drawn out. It should never have been aired, much less focused on.
Not only can rumours like that ruin lives, it completely shits on the growing movement of sex positivity and respect for sex workers by making it this dirty taboo
I completely agree with all that was said. I was over it once the 2nd episode hit because it all turned wrong. Especially the episode when new women came in and the rumors spread I was incredibly mad at production because of how much they have damaged the show the lead and contestants. Very upsetting but I only hope things get better in the following seasons.
It is 100000% noticeable that Elan left the show. Seasons of the bachelor have always been meh, but after he left they got horrible. He was definitely keeping many aspects of the show afloat
How can production not find these controversies like with Rachel and Jed during casting when people on the internet and 5 minutes to spare can find it relatively quickly
They can and do. They just don’t care about anything else except putting on a “good show” in the words of Mike Fleiss, who is a pos who thinks only drama and a bunch of women hating on each other is a good show.
Totally AGREE. Production failed us this season and like you said after getting such a great season in Tayshia.
Matt seems to have such a great personality but it was not shown all season. He needed to get to know him more or better. I remember before Juan Pablo's season we got a whole special telling us about him - though I still wasn't interested. I think they should have done the same with Matt but I think they took for granted that people "knew" Matt because he's friends with Tyler Cameron. Not everyone watched The Quarantine Crew videos.
They should have at lease showed us the connection between Matt & Rachael. We certainly missed that. There seemed to be more chemistry with Matt & Michelle, at least from what they showed us. If they show more of the connection between between Matt & Rachael, maybe we could have understood more how heartbreaking it was for the both of them when the controversy came out about her antebellum photos. Also for all we know, production may have even told her not to speak all those weeks too, which was a really BAD mistake and then put Chris Harrison out there to "defend" her just made things worse. I personally believe that Chris's intentions were to get internet trolls off Rachael's back but that totally backfired when he went on his own weird and crazy rant. What an overall disappointment.
I have been watching since Alex Michel was the Bachelor - the very first season and this is unfortunately, one of the worse if not the worse season in the franchise. Before this I would have most definitely said Juan Pablo's because I didn't even bother to finish watching that season. I was really looking forward to Matt's season, with him being the first Black Bachelor and me being a Black person who has been a fan of this show, who I am very aware did not cast many Black people through the years. I still watched most every season. I was so excited to see Black male lead and I was interested in seeing what Matt would bring. I hope this show can be better. I was so hopeful after seeing Tayshia's season and the cast of men on that show and the best proposal EVER in Bachelor history with Tayshia and Zac.
I will say that I am hopeful for Katie and Michelle's Bachelorette's seasons though. Even the next BIP, with so many cast members to choose from. I hope the diversity in casting continues and I hope cast members stories are highlighted more going forward and they have learned their lesson. We like drama but the show is ultimately about people finding love. This is why some people I know like BIP better anyhow, more love stories and usually more lasting love stories.
Thank you for the recaps. I really enjoy them and your commentary!
Three points where, in spite of everything, I think this season was still better than Peter's:
- Even with the scarce screentime where it was due, this cast had several women that people rooted to become Bachelorette (Michelle, Katie, Bri, Abigail, Serena P.), whereas in Peter's season we didn't care that much for any of the women.
- Matt at least had the sense of not making a proposal he wasn't truly invested in.
- Not that it excuses their terrible behaviour, but at least Matt's cast was stuck in a bubble with little distraction, and it's more understandable (though not excusable) that they would obsess over petty stuff and/or became freaked out about things they normally wouldn't. Peter's women got to travel a lot (Cleveland, Costa Rica, Chile, Peru) and still caused petty unnecessary drama.
Thank you for sharing that with me, Bachelor Fantake. Production needs to watch this video and take notes.
Not vetting contestants explains why we got a failed engagement in Hannah Brown's season where she picked the one guy who had a girlfriend and didn't tell anybody and where the drama was also very present with Luke P
This season is the reason I am done watching this show entirely. The franchise has changed so much - I care about the love story, not the mean drama. The producers could have done something to make this show a positive story, instead they have turned it into a negative drama story that has ruined many of the contestants emotional lives. Matt is probably very scarred too and probably will take him even longer to actually be ready to settle down.
Weirdly I think one of the main issues that I can deduce about the Bachelor seasons vs Bachelorette seasons honestly might come down to misogyny. The producers haven't figured out that just because they have over 20 women filming together that this show does not have to be Real Housewives of Nemacolin. Focusing so much on drama in the house not only takes away from the lead's love story but it also means we don't end up getting to know enough of the contestants that make it far so we don't end up caring.
Sure, there's some toxic masculinity issues with the types of dates they choose on Bachelorette seasons but it doesn't seem quite as prevalent as the producer provoked "cattiness" that we get on the seasons with so many women. And the Bachelorettes tend to be praised for getting rid of anyone making trouble amongst the guys so once you get further into a season we have time to get to know people who matter before we get to the final two. The editing is the other major issue for me that reflects the show's gender role issues but that's a whole other convo.
The franchise ALSO hasn't figured out that only increasing diversity amongst cast members isn't enough because until you get anti-racist anti-misogynist people MAKING the show, we will continue to get shitty seasons even if they are slightly less visually white.
The season was such a mess it would be a great season but producer made the drama and make woman again each other and Rachel kk racist past and scandal it was very disappointing to watch 🥺😭 it was worse than peter season such a shame to watch and a waste.
I haven't watched it since, so I might be wrong, but I think the best recent bachelor season was Arie's. I still remember him, his interests, his family (even though I have not watched Emily's season) We got to know the girls. Bekah loved climbing, Kendall did taxidermy, tia had the southern charm. The season had a villain, crystal, and she was annoying, but the annoyance didn't overpower the romance. The ending was chaotic, but Becca came out of it stronger, empowered and getting the Bachelorette. Arie got hate, but he also found love, and you can't hate love. If the editing was different you wouldn't know the girls, so you won't be rooting for anyone, you wouldn't feel bad for becca, or happy for Arie. A villain is important to get you through the first 5 episodes, but the villain, for it to work, has to be a contender. The girls personalities have to be showcased. The leads feelings have to be heard. Or else you get the last 2 , even 3 seasons
You are so right, I was interested in the cast at that time.
I wish Riley from Tayshia's season was the bachelor 😢
Bachelor Fantake, you should reevaluate Peter’s season because it was much better to watch than Matt’s and compare the similarities and differences between Peter’s season and Matt’s season
Yes I would love to see a C&C with some of the most hated seasons!
I dont think so cuz Peter doesn't have the excuse of no experience. He just doesn't have a spine. He chose Hannah cuz of his family flipflopped back to his choice and promptly dismissed her cuz mommy knows best.
Eh that would still be pretty hard to tell since his season wasn't during a pandemic. His season had destinations that made it more fun/entertaining so it would be hard to do. Also two different family dynamics when it comes to Peter vs Matt
What a disaster of a season. And ratings reflected that. This season pulled 25% FEWER viewers than Peter's and Colton's. For the first time, the show lost many nights in total viewers (The Voice and 9-1-1 pulled consistently more viewers every night). Matt was the worst Bachelor in years, the contestants were immature and bullies, Rachael was mess and she gave Matt an easy way out (we knew he was not ready to settle down; he's a f-ck boy), and then there was all the controversy and chaos happening outside the show. A MESS...
Lets get real! Matt was never in it with interest to be with someone. That's why he initially was picked. He liked his pal's clout so he wanted to go on Clare's season and come off like golden boy Tyler. Producers saw the attention he got over that and they wanted messy black lead, because they wanted to prove why they pick whites. And Matt being the less black christian man there is, was a major score for them. That's why they didn't go with someone like....well MIKE! But they didn't expect all Rachael downfall for sure. As to general viewers that's not an issue as they are mostly conservative.
if anything this teaches us we have got to stop casting contestants who claim they’ve never been in love before like if you can’t find it in the real world what’s making you think you can get engaged in such a short period of time,,, leads like that always just seem disinterested
I'm turning this one WAY UP!!!! I am sick of the artificial drama amped up by production.
I don’t know if I would agree that Matt handled the drama poorly. It definitely took him a second to catch on with what was happening in the house (which I think is reasonable considering how separate they keep the leads from the contestants), but the second he found out what was going on, he sent home literally every girl who participated in the bullying. I think he handled Anna with grace by telling her he didn’t think she was a bad person, we’ve all said things we regret, but she can’t be his wife. I’m not saying he handled the drama perfectly, I’m just saying that a lot of these mediocre bachelors have handled the drama way worse. Let’s not forget REDACTED’s terrible detective skills on his season.
Thank you for bringing up Elan! I completely forgot about this and now it makes so much sense🤦♀️
The Bachelor should just hire you. I stopped watching entirely midway through Colton's season but I watch ALL of your recaps because you still manage to make it compelling.
this guy should just run the bachelor franchise at this point
I also think 38 women is wayyyyyyy too many women for a 2 month period. For it's one of the reasons why we couldn't develop a deeper connection to relationships. Just too too many women. 30 would have been enough.
I couldn't agree with you more. I really miss the romance of the early seasons. It just feels like an endurance test now with no payoff in the end. They should at least do a better job of vetting the lead to ensure they aren't just there for self-promotion. I think the line that gave it away for me was when Matt said, I've seen this process work for Tyler. That's when I knew he was only seeking self-promotion and not love. We need a lead who is looking for love. That lead will weed out the contestants who aren't, like Taisha's season. Matt was a poor choice. I believe he took the role to promote himself and is now paying dearly for that poor choice.
DO YOU THINK YOU COULD DO A VID ABOUT HOW THE BACHELOR HAS CHANGED!? I had no idea about the producer that walked away! The unconventional endings and drama-intensive seasons really did start with him!! The only exception was Taysha bc she didnt take their shit. I would be super interested a video about this!
I'm a really awkward person who often doesn't know what to say when someone shares something important with me. So when Matt kept saying, 'thank you for sharing that with me' I thought 'oh that must be what's said during those times I'm going to try that out' oh my that didn't turn out well and I learned it was an even more off-putting response. I just laugh/cringe now whenever someone mentions it. 😅