Welcome back! Just wanted to say thanks for all your awesome TS12 videos. Between you and ATTAK Consulting, you have shown me what the TS12 is capable of and I don't regret for one second my decision to purchase one. I'm actually considering purchasing a second one.
I have a TS 12 and agree 1000 percent on your evaluation.Nice presentation,yet the fire arm holds 17 2 3/4 shells ,15 in the 3 tubes ,1 in the barrel and 1 ghosted on the carrier springs equals 17 .
Aloha nō my friend, thanks for checking out my video! At around 11 minutes I mention ghost loading and how it’s effect on capacity, but it’s probably something that would have been e better spoken of closer to the beginning. Thank you for the constructive input, I’ll do better in the future🤙🏾🙏🏽 Have a great weekend, hopefully with your TS12🤙🏾
Great video as usual. Carlson's "Tactical Breacher Choke" also has a new version called the "Tactical Breacher Muzzle Brake Choke". It's worth noting the Tactical Beacher Muzzle Brake comes in 2 types... Cylinder, and Extra-Full. So if you're a 00-buck kind of guy and don't run slugs you can get a cool brake with a decent pattern. Definitely the coolest choke I have... although the JMAC Customs Muzzle Break is on my hit list some day. One thing I'd mention is that some external/extended muzzle chokes do not fit with the factory barrel nut. The IWI TS12 barrel nut has a small lip on the end that prevents some wider choke tubes from fitting through it. You either can't get the nut over the tube when installed, or you can't install the choke tube fully when the barrel nut is in place. The Manicore Arms Muzzle Break nut fixes that issue, and opens up a huge amount of choke tube options you can't use otherwise (or you can machine/grind/sand down the lip I suppose). Some extended choke tubes do fit through... but not all.
That’s one thing about the TS12 to keep in mind if you’re considering it’s purchase is that it has very little third party/aftermarket support, but I am also happy to see that companies such as MA have stepped in to give us more options; I’m hoping that this will be a growing trend🤙🏾
Good job, brother. If all the weapons I've owned over the years and there have been a great many, the TS12 is hands down my favorite of all time. It's a beast!!!
The Buck Kicker from Kicks chokes has performed great on mine. Doesn't work for slugs but I have gotten great spread reduction with 00, #4 and birdshot. Just to add the gun is so much fun to shoot the weight just disappears when you get into a rhythm.
Man regardless of the topic you are one of the most to the point yet thorough channels on TH-cam. Seriously bro it's a skill and talent...with such great presentation and editing I do not feel like a single second of my life was wasted. Appreciate you.
Great video! I can't imagine many people complaining about the weight. Yes. It's a LITTLE hefty but, it's a shotgun. So, take that complaint with a grain of salt. Also, it's a bullpup. Which means that the weight is pretty centered. So, as you mentioned, the traverse is pretty great.
😂🤙🏾🙏🏽 mahalo my friend for the kind words my friend. Lol I know I don’t have to tell you of all people how much fun, and how versatile this firearm is. I was talking about how one could load and shoot if needed simultaneously for that video, but then I got carried away and forgot what I was doing LOL true story, and so was born the suppressive fire clip. I appreciate your content a lot, I don’t have a means of communicating with you in IG or any other kinds of social media directly, but would you be OK with me shouting you out in future videos?
Watch both your videos on TH-cam for knowledge of this new shotgun! Kudos to you both for sharing! 🙏 Just got my IWI Tavor TS12 last week, already ordered a few mods from your list!!!! Quick question- new to this shotgun… the new Carlson choke tube, do I use choke tool that came with shotgun to pull out the original choke tube out after unscrew nut? Then screw in New Carlson Breach Choke tube?
@@cmurillo420 aloha nō my friend! Yes, you can use the choke wrench supplied with your TS12 to remove the factory installed one, then just screw in your new choke/brake and get to blastin’😁🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾 Have a great weekend, and mahalo for checking out my channel🙏🏽🤙🏾
guys, there was a comment made that the choke tube is no longer made for the tavor. that is incorrect. I just purchased the 85006 from Carlsons based on a recommendation and brought it to the gunsmith. He put it on in less than 60 seconds and didn’t charge me. The threads were perfect.
Great video as usual. You and ATTAK consulting have the best TS-12 videos. I'm looking at either getting this shotgun or the Beretta 1301 tactical. Any opinions? I like the high capacity and bullpup factor of the TS-12, but I'm thinking the Beretta might have a better gas system and be more reliable. Looking forward to the 10k review.
Mahalo for checking out my video and for the kind words🙏🏽 yes, ATTAK consulting has some very good content, I’m hoping to do some sort of collaboration with him in the future as I think it’d be a lot of fun and have great informative potential. I have a Beretta 1301 from Langdon Tactical and it’s awesome. I know this piece of advice probably won’t help too much in your decision between the two, but they are both excellent platforms and in my opinion, it comes down to what kind of experience you want. They are both very reliable, though I do think the 1301 will operate over a larger spectrum of ammunition. Though it’s important to note in this aspect that the TS12 (in my experience) is also extremely reliable as long as you follow the recommendations from IWI in running at least 1 1/8oz at 1200 fps (with a few exceptions). There are MANY different loads to choose from within these parameters, so where some people have said the TS12 is picky with ammunition, over 10000 rounds in MY experience, I disagree. It won’t run EVERYTHING, but you have a very broad selection of what it will run. I will say that the 1301 doesn’t need to be cleaned nearly as often as the TS12 (in my experience). I have yet to clean my 1301 with about 1200 rounds through it, while my TS12 needs cleaning every 700 rounds or so. My 1301 does need to be cleaned though because I can tell that it’s cycling slower. The 1301 is more of a traditional semi auto shotgun whose manual of arms will apply across many other shotgun platforms and vice versa. The TS12 on the other hand, isn’t complicated by any means, but it’s so unique that nothing really carries of to, or from it to another platform. The 1301 is lighter, and cycles faster for what that’s worth. The TS12, while heavier, is more lively and faster pointing because of its shorter overall length. You will be super stoked with either firearm and they’re about the same price, it just depends on what you want. If I HAD to pick one, it’s be the TS12 for its flexibility, utility, and because it’s so different and unique, and I’m into that, but I truly love my 1301 as well.
Another great TS-12 video bro. Love the Esstac cards. I have them on all of my defensive shotguns. 7 round cards because as you know with the TS-12 and the KSG25 you definitely need at least 14 more shells on board. Is that the Eotech you're running ? Holosun 510C is really nice too. Have a great weekend.
Mahalo for checking out the video my friend. Yes the esstac cards are choice, I also have them in my 1301, and I’m debating on whether or not I will remove the sidesaddle from my 870 and run the cards instead. Yes it’s an EXPS-2, I like the holosun 510c as well it’s a solid choice. Have a great week my friend, again, thanks for taking some time to talk story🤙🏾
@@PeaK808 I also have one on my 1301T. I'm not sure if you know this ( probably) but if you remove the little plastic cap at the end of the mag tube and just let the spring go to the end of the screw on cover it will increase capacity by 1 and the 1301 will still run like a champ. I put a Phoenix telescoping AR style stock on my 500. It has a built in 5 rd. side saddle. Then I put a 7 rd. Esstac card on the reciever. 7+1 and 12 on the gun. For zombies. :-)
Yeah I’m sorry it’s taking so F ing long…. I have this obsessive perfection disorder or something so I’ve been stuck in an editing and reshooting hellhole for MONTHS… I’ve gotten some feedback from viewers and some other bigger TH-camrs and what I’ve decided to do is drop a version that has all the information but is less polished, that way it’s out there, people can get the information they need, and I can go make pretty videos later. BUT… I guess silver lining is now I’m way over 10k rounds😁
Great video! Glad you're back!!! I was looking for the Carlson choke tube and there aren't any listed specifically for IWI. Looks like there are 3 model options with the .72 width, 1) Remington; 2) Mossberg, Winchester, Browning; and 3) Tru-Choke. Which model did you get? Mahalo!
Mahalo for checking out the video my friend! The TS12 is compatible with all beretta/benelli chokes, so any of those will work for you🤙🏾 Here it is: www.choketube.com/product-category/12-gauge-choke-tubes/beretta-benelli-mobil/beretta-benelli-mobil-tactical-breecher-choke-tubes/ I’m going to O’ahu Friday for Memorial Day weekend, hope you have a great weekend also🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
@@PeaK808 really appreciate you putting up the link. I ordered it and it was too big. Checking the site, it's actually .715 and your video listed .72. I called Carlson and they said they don't sell a .72 breacher bore. That's obviously bs since you got one, but not sure where to go from here. Any suggestions?! Thanks alot and look forward to your next video!
Aloha nō my friend, so sorry for the late reply. Not trying to fish you in lot IG, but I respond faster on there than on comments just because it’s more organized. So sorry again for the late reply. The link I sent you is the exact choke I use. The information in my video is a typo from my manual, the correct choke size is the one indicated in the link I sent to you🙏🏽🤙🏾
You cannot shoot this shotgun with it set up wrong handed. My is a right handed setup, had a lefthanded guy shoot it, it damn near blew his ears our, and ejected the shell right into his face
Love the channel my braddah. Slowly watching all your videos. TH-cam should put you higher up in the search. I plan to get a TS12 eventually. Right now working on the 1301. Plan to drop a few more videos too but it'll take time to get it to your level! What video you doing next?
Aloha nō my friend! Mahalo for checking out my channel! I have a bunch of videos on deck, top of the list is my 10k round review of the TS12, then I’m going to shift gears for a bit and do a series on CCW specifically for Hawai’i and people new to CCW… lots of coals on the fire but want to put a little time focusing on our community’s need for knowledge, especially the process of getting an LTC island by island and all that comes with it. The 1301 is awesome! I love mine, can’t wait to see your videos I’m subbed! Let me know if you ever want to do a collab or something it could be cool🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
@@PeaK808 Those videos sound good. I know with the new CCW here it would be solid info to get out. Which side BI you from. It's been too long since my last visit. Appreciate the sub!
@@HawaiiFoodAndFun I’m from Waimea, next time you’re out here please let me know I’d love to shoot with you, I have my own range out here on our homestead. Yes I’ve had so many people ask me about the CCW situation I feel like I really need to do anything I can to spread some knowledge about it, as I feel what’s readily available is very confusing to the average person, or anyone for that matter; the county police websites are downright awful. I run proficiency tests for the LTC at my place and even then most people come so unprepared both in the shooting sense and also with paperwork /documents because what information they did get from what’s online was either wrong or just really, really confusing.
@@PeaK808 Waimea is the greatest and a private range is a dream here. I'm not a hunter but I went on a brief hunt there a few years ago. That LTC training must be new since it just came out. Its awesome you jumped on that. I almost worked at a local gun store here and admit more people could use help with paperwork and training. I'll let you know if ever I'm in the area!
Aloha nō my friend, thanks for checking out the video! I just went to the site and they still carry the choke. The TS12 takes beretta/Benelli chokes, so you’re going to go to the site and look for an improved cylinder breached choke for beretta/Benelli shotguns. I’m sorry I can’t be more specific I’ll get in trouble with YT. I hope this helps, but I just looked and they’re in stock you should be able to scoop one up easy🤙🏾
I shoot my ts12 more often now that even the safety range staff tried and f n love both my Ts 12 and x95. With 37 cents per rd this baby will accompany me once a week at the range.
Aloha nō my friend, been trying to get back out but life keeps piling it on; got super sick, totaled my truck, remodeling my house, working the homestead, BABY DUE IN JULY 😂😂😂 I’ll be back soon with more content, it may not be of the same production quality as before(which wasn’t much to begin with) but just to get rolling back out there, I think it’ll be a good start. Mahalo for the encouragement my friend, I needed it. Have a great week, see you in the TH-cams🤙🏾
What a great video, I really like your presentation with the upgrade part stats after each explanation. I currently run a Keltec KSG, but I want to trade up to the TS12.
Mahalo for the kind words and for stopping by to check out this video; even a couple of years after first picking the thing up, the TS12 continues to amaze and surprise me. 10k rounds was a great journey and I can’t wait to share the experience with all of you.
Great videos. I know the shorty shells (1.75" & 2") dont feed properly. 1. Has anyone tried the Nobel Sport 12g 2.25" buckshot shells? They were made to improve feeding in semi-autos and seem to work in Benelli M4s. 2. There are bird shot 12g shells out there in 2.5" (i.e. Holland and Holland)... has anyone tried these to see if theyll cycle? If so, they may fit 6 per tube? Hand loading 12g 2.5" shouldnt be hard to set up a 00 or slug round.
Love the video… just got my TS12 and ordered a carlsons breacher choke… I’ve read conflicting info as to whether or not I can shoot slugs through it… can you confirm slugs are good to go with it? Mahalo from Atlanta!
Mahalo for checking out my video and I’m SUPER stoked for you getting your TS12!!! As for being able to shoot slugs through this choke or not, I’ve been shooting slugs through mine for over two years, and I haven’t had any issues. As it’s an improved cylinder choke, it’s wide enough to let slugs pass without interference. At least, I haven’t experienced any problems and I’ve run A TON of different slugs through mine Have a great week!🤙🏾
Any long term issues with the two bolt pins getting bent? my local range mentioned that their rental model had this issue often and it was so bad they had to use a press to get it out. I want to love this gun so bad, but this could be a fatal flaw. please tell me it was just a fluke, I was literally just about to buy one!
Aloha nō my friend mahalo for checking out the video! When you say bolt pins I’m not sure if you’re referring to the pin holding the bolt and bolt carrier together, or the pin for removing the butt pad in order to access the bolt carrier for cleaning? Regardless, I can only speak for the one I own, and I have over 20000 rounds through mine with no issues, other than those that have arisen because of the system being dirty and needing to be cleaned, leading to FTE and FTF. I was advised by IWI to change the springs at 20k rounds, which I have yet to do, but am planning on getting done once I start seeing regular issues.
@@iz3866 I’m sure it’s a combination of the two. Like I said in the video, I initially went to the MACH because I found myself going to the charging handle a lot once my TS12 started getting real dirty; it’s easier to find, easier to grip because of the slightly longer length and more aggressive stippling. Regardless as to whether you’re running the stock CH or not, the esstac shotgun cards can really be placed anywhere you can get a good connection, so one could place the loop side of the Velcro lower on the frame as to interfere less with the charging handle, it’s really up to the end user🤙🏾
Aloha nō my friend, I know this reply is so late, I had a baby recently and I’ve been really busy, so I apologize for replying so late. The optic I’ve been running the longest and currently run is an witch EXPS 2-0
Aloha nō! Thanks for checking out the video🤙🏾 I’ve tried multiple optics on my TS12 and have more or less settled on an Eotech EXPS-2-0 which Is a holographic sight, not a red dot, as I feel the reticle, combined with the large and clear glass lends themselves to very fast target acquisition and transition with this shotgun. I can only recommend optics that I have personally used enough to form an opinion on, and so I cannot say much for any of the Holosun optics as I haven’t used one beyond a range session or two on students’ or instructors’ firearms. If you’re looking for something on the budget end of the spectrum, the Sig Romeo 5 is great in my experience. I’ve run one on my 870 police for years, not treating it very well as the gun was cheap as a police trade in. I regularly THROW that shotgun into the bed of my truck without a care, I’ve run it over with my truck accidentally and have dropped it optic first onto rocks while climbing over walls and fences several times; the optic has deep scars in the aluminum housing, the turret caps are bent and I’ve never lost zero. The XDR is probably just as good but I don’t have as much time with that version of the Romeo as I do with the Romeo 5. Primary Arms makes great prisms; I have the SLX cyclops on a few rigs and ran one in my TS12 for about 3 months. It is sturdy, the glass is clear, it comes with all the mounts you need to get started and most of all, the ACSS reticle has a TON of utility, and I feel is a fast optic on the TS12. Trijicon RMRs are great but getting up there in the price as are the aim point T2s. Set it and forget it, though I’ve moved away from open reflex sights like the RMR because debris can get into the emitter, which I’ve had happen with mud. I like the eotech the best, and I hope my answer helps you somewhat. Have a great weekend🤙🏾
Aloha e my friend thanks for checking out the video. It depends where you set your chin/cheek weld as to how often you get hit by ejecting hulls. I am predominantly a left handed long gunner, but because I also often have new shooters /students using my firearms I only buy right handed guns as the majority of people are right handed. Also, in my crazy, inconceivable, way way out there preparedness mind, in the event something catastrophic happens and it’s the end of the world situation, most firearms one will come across in the wild will be right handed platforms, so I feel as a left handed shooter, I should be able to proficiently, seamlessly, and easily use any right handed gun. When I shoot the TS12 with MY natural head position/chin weld I get hit once in a while but it’s only slightly noticeable and easily ignored BY ME, your mileage may vary. I would say if you are a left handed shooter and almost always are the only person using the firearm, I would shop for a LH model. I hope this helps
Aloha nō my friend, mahalo for checking out the video! I have no personal experience with their muzzle brake, but I’m sure it’s a quality product. Like I’ve told many other people who have PMed me about brakes for the TS12 and such, the truth is, in my opinion, it’s really not necessary by any means of practicality; the TS12 is very soft shooting and controllable for a 12ga, but if you wanna get those cool points with the brakes, by all means get it!
I apologize for the late reply, I just had a baby so I’m really busy and not having much time for this. I purposely didn’t mention my optic because I feel they’re really subjective person to person, but the optic I’ve been running the longest is an EOTECH EXPS 2-0, because of the large window, and the true holographic reticle works well with my astugmitisn and implants in my eyes
Great video. I ordered each of the accessories recommended. I am unable to install the Carlsons Tactical Choke. I did get the Ber/Ben model. I removed the existing cap but the new choke is same diameter as barrel. I’m sure I am doing something wrong. Any advice?
Aloha nō my friend, mahalo for checking out my video🙏🏽🤙🏾 Yes, you’re on the right track; remove the barrel nut, and then use the choke wrench included with your TS12 (I’m sure any beretta/benelli choke wrench would work) then remove the factory choke that comes installed. Screw in your new choke and get to blastin’ 🤙🏾
@@PeaK808 - Thanks for the quick response. That worked and looks very cool. I already have a Vortex Spitfire Scope. Next accessory will be IWI / Savvy Sniper Sling WD. Total badass gun!
Aloha nō and thank you for checking out my video! I posted a video a while back about the left hand conversions ( th-cam.com/video/jwdo51g-uN0/w-d-xo.html )and in that I spoke about how although my strong side with long guns is my left, for several reasons I was choosing to keep my right handed TS12. However, yes, if I did want to convert my TS12 to left handed configuration I’d have to send it back to IWI (no charge). It is not configurable by the user like how the T7 is, and to a lesser extent the X95
Aloha nō my friend, I apologize for the late reply. I don’t own an UTAS15 (super cool you have one!), and I don’t make videos about platforms or pieces of equipment that I don’t have personal experience with, so until I get one for myself, I won’t be making any videos specifically for that platform or the accessories to go with it. However, I will get to work on a short video about some optics choices that I’m sure will work great with your UTAS 15
Aloha nō my friend, thanks for checking out the video. I’ve run through several different optic setups, but have “settled” on the EOTech EXPS-2-0 and have been running that consistently for the past couple years.
I have a tendency of making my videos too long by going off topic instead of staying focused. Something that didn’t make the final cut to this video was the reason why I didn’t mention what optic I’m running. I wanted to keep to accessories specifically for the TS12 and/or shotguns, as one thing the TS12 DOESNT have going for it at this time (it has gotten better) is aftermarket and 3rd party support. Also, it’s my opinion (which isn’t worth much, I’m just some guy on the internet after all) that optics are such a personal preference for shooters, and had I started talking about my optic, that would have been another video all together. I’m planning on doing a video about this optic on this shotgun and why, but it just didn’t make sense to me including it in this video. In case you didn’t see it couldn’t tell in the video, it’s an EOTech EXPS-2-0
@@PeaK808 totally get it. I couldn’t tell if it was the EXPS2 or EXPS3…or how many dots you chose to have 1, 2, 4…I’m guessing not 4 lol Thanks for the timely response. Much appreciated.
@@natoshi_sakamoto absolutely, I’m glad to help out and having conversations like this as well as creating a space for people to talk about firearms and share information about the lifestyle are some of the main reasons why I started this channel. Since we’re talking about it already, I chose the EXPS2 because I like having the option of being able to remove my optic if I need to, as well as appreciate the higher mount height. The EOTech is fast, but the most important thing FOR ME is that it is a true holographic optic, and as someone with severe astigmatism and Keratoconus, the reticle remains stable and clear to me instead of blowing out or shattering like a lot of true RDOs do, again, for me, because of the condition of my eyes. I like the added benefit of being able to do rough range funding through the EOTech’s reticle, and, though I’m not “married” to any one platform or piece of equipment (I will use whatever works best for me) my experience with multiple EOTech optics have been great and it’s what I like to use on this set up. I’ve tried RMR type 2, Burris Fastfire 3, Romeo 5, Romeo 5 XDR, aimpoint T2, primary arms cyclops, vortex sparc II, Romeo 4, aimpoint acro, and a few others, but with this platform I’ve always come back to the EOTech
Thanks for the pro tip! How do you open with your videos? I tried checking out your channel to get a better idea of how I should go about asking for support so I can make my content better and do giveaways and stuff like that but I didn’t see any of your content, not sure if I’m blocked or something, but would you mind shooting me a link or a way to check out your content so I can learn from you and improve? The bigger channels I watch throw in a “like and subscribe” somewhere in their content, but, maybe I’m following the wrong creators. I’ll do my best to stop begging for subs and money in my videos. Mahalo for checking out my video and for the constructive input, I hope you have a great weekend🤙🏾
@@PeaK808 You are most welcome. As I've no need for public validation, not monetization .... I have nothing more to offer. Best of luck on your journey to YouiTube fame & fortune!
Welcome back! Just wanted to say thanks for all your awesome TS12 videos. Between you and ATTAK Consulting, you have shown me what the TS12 is capable of and I don't regret for one second my decision to purchase one. I'm actually considering purchasing a second one.
I agree. Peak and Attak have great TS12 videos!
How much Tabor TS12
@@CesarAB-0418 About $1300US for the base gun.
I have a TS 12 and agree 1000 percent on your evaluation.Nice presentation,yet the fire arm holds 17 2 3/4 shells ,15 in the 3 tubes ,1 in the barrel and 1 ghosted on the carrier springs equals 17 .
Aloha nō my friend, thanks for checking out my video! At around 11 minutes I mention ghost loading and how it’s effect on capacity, but it’s probably something that would have been e better spoken of closer to the beginning. Thank you for the constructive input, I’ll do better in the future🤙🏾🙏🏽
Have a great weekend, hopefully with your TS12🤙🏾
This is great. My TS12 is 100% factory. I love the upgrades
Great video as usual.
Carlson's "Tactical Breacher Choke" also has a new version called the "Tactical Breacher Muzzle Brake Choke". It's worth noting the Tactical Beacher Muzzle Brake comes in 2 types... Cylinder, and Extra-Full. So if you're a 00-buck kind of guy and don't run slugs you can get a cool brake with a decent pattern. Definitely the coolest choke I have... although the JMAC Customs Muzzle Break is on my hit list some day.
One thing I'd mention is that some external/extended muzzle chokes do not fit with the factory barrel nut. The IWI TS12 barrel nut has a small lip on the end that prevents some wider choke tubes from fitting through it. You either can't get the nut over the tube when installed, or you can't install the choke tube fully when the barrel nut is in place. The Manicore Arms Muzzle Break nut fixes that issue, and opens up a huge amount of choke tube options you can't use otherwise (or you can machine/grind/sand down the lip I suppose). Some extended choke tubes do fit through... but not all.
Great video! Really good to see these shotguns are finally starting to get aftermarket support.
That’s one thing about the TS12 to keep in mind if you’re considering it’s purchase is that it has very little third party/aftermarket support, but I am also happy to see that companies such as MA have stepped in to give us more options; I’m hoping that this will be a growing trend🤙🏾
I can't seem to find the exact choke tube you have. Is it a different size from .725"? what website can I get it?@@PeaK808
Woah a gun channel from Hawaii awesome. My dad was stationed in Kaneohe Oahu and I miss it . Always wanted to go back one day .
Good job, brother. If all the weapons I've owned over the years and there have been a great many, the TS12 is hands down my favorite of all time. It's a beast!!!
The Buck Kicker from Kicks chokes has performed great on mine. Doesn't work for slugs but I have gotten great spread reduction with 00, #4 and birdshot. Just to add the gun is so much fun to shoot the weight just disappears when you get into a rhythm.
Man regardless of the topic you are one of the most to the point yet thorough channels on TH-cam. Seriously bro it's a skill and talent...with such great presentation and editing I do not feel like a single second of my life was wasted. Appreciate you.
Great video!
I can't imagine many people complaining about the weight. Yes. It's a LITTLE hefty but, it's a shotgun. So, take that complaint with a grain of salt. Also, it's a bullpup. Which means that the weight is pretty centered. So, as you mentioned, the traverse is pretty great.
Nice vid. I like your subtle humor and you’re not annoying about it. Quick and to the point - I’m subscribed!
Thank you for making an honest video with good points about each product.
Lookin’ good bro!
Love the continuous suppression clip! Nobody is sticking their head out of cover 😀
😂🤙🏾🙏🏽 mahalo my friend for the kind words my friend. Lol I know I don’t have to tell you of all people how much fun, and how versatile this firearm is.
I was talking about how one could load and shoot if needed simultaneously for that video, but then I got carried away and forgot what I was doing LOL true story, and so was born the suppressive fire clip.
I appreciate your content a lot, I don’t have a means of communicating with you in IG or any other kinds of social media directly, but would you be OK with me shouting you out in future videos?
@@PeaK808 shout it out 😀
Maybe someday we could do something together one day?
@@attakconsulting I would LOVE to do that! I think that would be really cool, and with the magic of the internet I’m sure we could make it happen.
Watch both your videos on TH-cam for knowledge of this new shotgun! Kudos to you both for sharing! 🙏 Just got my IWI Tavor TS12 last week, already ordered a few mods from your list!!!! Quick question- new to this shotgun… the new Carlson choke tube, do I use choke tool that came with shotgun to pull out the original choke tube out after unscrew nut? Then screw in New Carlson Breach Choke tube?
@@cmurillo420 aloha nō my friend! Yes, you can use the choke wrench supplied with your TS12 to remove the factory installed one, then just screw in your new choke/brake and get to blastin’😁🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
Have a great weekend, and mahalo for checking out my channel🙏🏽🤙🏾
guys, there was a comment made that the choke tube is no longer made for the tavor. that is incorrect. I just purchased the 85006 from Carlsons based on a recommendation and brought it to the gunsmith. He put it on in less than 60 seconds and didn’t charge me. The threads were perfect.
I'm actually shocked that crazy Mazie allows you to own that.
No other channel is giving such important tips on access ories
Great video as usual. You and ATTAK consulting have the best TS-12 videos. I'm looking at either getting this shotgun or the Beretta 1301 tactical. Any opinions? I like the high capacity and bullpup factor of the TS-12, but I'm thinking the Beretta might have a better gas system and be more reliable. Looking forward to the 10k review.
Mahalo for checking out my video and for the kind words🙏🏽 yes, ATTAK consulting has some very good content, I’m hoping to do some sort of collaboration with him in the future as I think it’d be a lot of fun and have great informative potential.
I have a Beretta 1301 from Langdon Tactical and it’s awesome. I know this piece of advice probably won’t help too much in your decision between the two, but they are both excellent platforms and in my opinion, it comes down to what kind of experience you want.
They are both very reliable, though I do think the 1301 will operate over a larger spectrum of ammunition. Though it’s important to note in this aspect that the TS12 (in my experience) is also extremely reliable as long as you follow the recommendations from IWI in running at least 1 1/8oz at 1200 fps (with a few exceptions). There are MANY different loads to choose from within these parameters, so where some people have said the TS12 is picky with ammunition, over 10000 rounds in MY experience, I disagree. It won’t run EVERYTHING, but you have a very broad selection of what it will run.
I will say that the 1301 doesn’t need to be cleaned nearly as often as the TS12 (in my experience). I have yet to clean my 1301 with about 1200 rounds through it, while my TS12 needs cleaning every 700 rounds or so. My 1301 does need to be cleaned though because I can tell that it’s cycling slower.
The 1301 is more of a traditional semi auto shotgun whose manual of arms will apply across many other shotgun platforms and vice versa. The TS12 on the other hand, isn’t complicated by any means, but it’s so unique that nothing really carries of to, or from it to another platform.
The 1301 is lighter, and cycles faster for what that’s worth. The TS12, while heavier, is more lively and faster pointing because of its shorter overall length.
You will be super stoked with either firearm and they’re about the same price, it just depends on what you want.
If I HAD to pick one, it’s be the TS12 for its flexibility, utility, and because it’s so different and unique, and I’m into that, but I truly love my 1301 as well.
Thanks so much for your reply. It was very helpful. I would love to see a collaboration between you and ATTAK!
Agreed Agent Smith ATTAK has been helpful also and He’s funny
Get both if you can the 1301 is a great shotgun and the TS 12 is a fantastic high-capacity shotgun
Another great TS-12 video bro. Love the Esstac cards. I have them on all of my defensive shotguns. 7 round cards because as you know with the TS-12 and the KSG25 you definitely need at least 14 more shells on board. Is that the Eotech you're running ? Holosun 510C is really nice too. Have a great weekend.
Mahalo for checking out the video my friend. Yes the esstac cards are choice, I also have them in my 1301, and I’m debating on whether or not I will remove the sidesaddle from my 870 and run the cards instead.
Yes it’s an EXPS-2, I like the holosun 510c as well it’s a solid choice.
Have a great week my friend, again, thanks for taking some time to talk story🤙🏾
@@PeaK808 I also have one on my 1301T. I'm not sure if you know this ( probably) but if you remove the little plastic cap at the end of the mag tube and just let the spring go to the end of the screw on cover it will increase capacity by 1 and the 1301 will still run like a champ. I put a Phoenix telescoping AR style stock on my 500. It has a built in 5 rd. side saddle. Then I put a 7 rd. Esstac card on the reciever. 7+1 and 12 on the gun. For zombies. :-)
very, very helpful. helpful products, love that shell holder. thanks
Yes the esstac cards are, “da one” as we say here😂
@@PeaK808 😎😎😎
Still awaiting that 10k video! Appreciate you man.
Yeah I’m sorry it’s taking so F ing long…. I have this obsessive perfection disorder or something so I’ve been stuck in an editing and reshooting hellhole for MONTHS… I’ve gotten some feedback from viewers and some other bigger TH-camrs and what I’ve decided to do is drop a version that has all the information but is less polished, that way it’s out there, people can get the information they need, and I can go make pretty videos later.
BUT… I guess silver lining is now I’m way over 10k rounds😁
Great video! Glad you're back!!! I was looking for the Carlson choke tube and there aren't any listed specifically for IWI. Looks like there are 3 model options with the .72 width, 1) Remington; 2) Mossberg, Winchester, Browning; and 3) Tru-Choke. Which model did you get?
Mahalo!
Mahalo for checking out the video my friend!
The TS12 is compatible with all beretta/benelli chokes, so any of those will work for you🤙🏾
Here it is: www.choketube.com/product-category/12-gauge-choke-tubes/beretta-benelli-mobil/beretta-benelli-mobil-tactical-breecher-choke-tubes/
I’m going to O’ahu Friday for Memorial Day weekend, hope you have a great weekend also🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
@@PeaK808 really appreciate you putting up the link. I ordered it and it was too big. Checking the site, it's actually .715 and your video listed .72.
I called Carlson and they said they don't sell a .72 breacher bore. That's obviously bs since you got one, but not sure where to go from here. Any suggestions?!
Thanks alot and look forward to your next video!
Aloha nō my friend, so sorry for the late reply. Not trying to fish you in lot IG, but I respond faster on there than on comments just because it’s more organized. So sorry again for the late reply.
The link I sent you is the exact choke I use. The information in my video is a typo from my manual, the correct choke size is the one indicated in the link I sent to you🙏🏽🤙🏾
I just got mine , accidentally ordered a lefty , but the price was excellent. Debating on sending for the conversion.
You cannot shoot this shotgun with it set up wrong handed. My is a right handed setup, had a lefthanded guy shoot it, it damn near blew his ears our, and ejected the shell right into his face
@@JosephPedro-lx8bp I got it converted, but you can absolutely shoot it off handed without any major problems
This gun needs to be in a John Wick movie... Maybe it is, and I just missed it😅 Super cool gun and great video overall👍🏼
Love the channel my braddah. Slowly watching all your videos. TH-cam should put you higher up in the search. I plan to get a TS12 eventually. Right now working on the 1301. Plan to drop a few more videos too but it'll take time to get it to your level! What video you doing next?
Aloha nō my friend! Mahalo for checking out my channel! I have a bunch of videos on deck, top of the list is my 10k round review of the TS12, then I’m going to shift gears for a bit and do a series on CCW specifically for Hawai’i and people new to CCW… lots of coals on the fire but want to put a little time focusing on our community’s need for knowledge, especially the process of getting an LTC island by island and all that comes with it.
The 1301 is awesome! I love mine, can’t wait to see your videos I’m subbed! Let me know if you ever want to do a collab or something it could be cool🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
@@PeaK808 Those videos sound good. I know with the new CCW here it would be solid info to get out. Which side BI you from. It's been too long since my last visit. Appreciate the sub!
@@HawaiiFoodAndFun I’m from Waimea, next time you’re out here please let me know I’d love to shoot with you, I have my own range out here on our homestead.
Yes I’ve had so many people ask me about the CCW situation I feel like I really need to do anything I can to spread some knowledge about it, as I feel what’s readily available is very confusing to the average person, or anyone for that matter; the county police websites are downright awful.
I run proficiency tests for the LTC at my place and even then most people come so unprepared both in the shooting sense and also with paperwork /documents because what information they did get from what’s online was either wrong or just really, really confusing.
@@PeaK808 Waimea is the greatest and a private range is a dream here. I'm not a hunter but I went on a brief hunt there a few years ago. That LTC training must be new since it just came out. Its awesome you jumped on that. I almost worked at a local gun store here and admit more people could use help with paperwork and training. I'll let you know if ever I'm in the area!
@@HawaiiFoodAndFun please do!🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
Apparently Carlson's doesn't make the breacher choke for the Tavor TS12 anymore.
Aloha nō my friend, thanks for checking out the video!
I just went to the site and they still carry the choke.
The TS12 takes beretta/Benelli chokes, so you’re going to go to the site and look for an improved cylinder breached choke for beretta/Benelli shotguns.
I’m sorry I can’t be more specific I’ll get in trouble with YT.
I hope this helps, but I just looked and they’re in stock you should be able to scoop one up easy🤙🏾
I shoot my ts12 more often now that even the safety range staff tried and f n love both my Ts 12 and x95. With 37 cents per rd this baby will accompany me once a week at the range.
Which breacher choke are you using specifically? Asking because there isn’t a clear selection for the ts12 in the website
Awesome video braddah, just bought a TS 12 and this info is good to know.
Mahalo Pia
Na’u ka hau’oli e ka hoa🤙🏾
I know you’re going to love it🤙🏾 if you’re ever in Hawaii island, LMK I’d love to shoot with you sometime I know a place 😁
Has to stop the video and subscribe. The level of knowledge 🤯🤙🏽
would love to see more vids on this and the x95 man, hope you find the time to make some in the future.
Aloha nō my friend, been trying to get back out but life keeps piling it on; got super sick, totaled my truck, remodeling my house, working the homestead, BABY DUE IN JULY 😂😂😂
I’ll be back soon with more content, it may not be of the same production quality as before(which wasn’t much to begin with) but just to get rolling back out there, I think it’ll be a good start.
Mahalo for the encouragement my friend, I needed it. Have a great week, see you in the TH-cams🤙🏾
What a great video, I really like your presentation with the upgrade part stats after each explanation. I currently run a Keltec KSG, but I want to trade up to the TS12.
Mahalo for the kind words and for checking out the video!
Thank you for your service.
Just got one of these TS12, an just found your channel, just subscribe
Thanks so much! Appreciate the info, nice job!
Mahalo for checking out my video!🤙🏾🤙🏾
I installed the Manticore curved pad on mine. It's a worthwile upgrade.
I know right?!😁😁😁
good review. seems fresh with good flow of info. can't wat for 10k review. thanks
Mahalo for the kind words and for stopping by to check out this video; even a couple of years after first picking the thing up, the TS12 continues to amaze and surprise me. 10k rounds was a great journey and I can’t wait to share the experience with all of you.
Price check on Carlson's Tactical Breecher Choke Tube: $76.50 on January 18 2024
I thought for sure you would talk about the red dot...
What optic do you like? Read that a Meprolight has a TS12 setting
Hey bruddah chee! It's Sean from work.
Good stuff Brother, thanks!
Great videos.
I know the shorty shells (1.75" & 2") dont feed properly.
1. Has anyone tried the Nobel Sport 12g 2.25" buckshot shells? They were made to improve feeding in semi-autos and seem to work in Benelli M4s.
2. There are bird shot 12g shells out there in 2.5" (i.e. Holland and Holland)... has anyone tried these to see if theyll cycle? If so, they may fit 6 per tube? Hand loading 12g 2.5" shouldnt be hard to set up a 00 or slug round.
What breacher choke did you use? I don’t know what diameter I need
Love the video… just got my TS12 and ordered a carlsons breacher choke… I’ve read conflicting info as to whether or not I can shoot slugs through it… can you confirm slugs are good to go with it? Mahalo from Atlanta!
Mahalo for checking out my video and I’m SUPER stoked for you getting your TS12!!! As for being able to shoot slugs through this choke or not, I’ve been shooting slugs through mine for over two years, and I haven’t had any issues. As it’s an improved cylinder choke, it’s wide enough to let slugs pass without interference.
At least, I haven’t experienced any problems and I’ve run A TON of different slugs through mine
Have a great week!🤙🏾
Great video... i really want to get one of these lol
Any long term issues with the two bolt pins getting bent? my local range mentioned that their rental model had this issue often and it was so bad they had to use a press to get it out. I want to love this gun so bad, but this could be a fatal flaw. please tell me it was just a fluke, I was literally just about to buy one!
Aloha nō my friend mahalo for checking out the video!
When you say bolt pins I’m not sure if you’re referring to the pin holding the bolt and bolt carrier together, or the pin for removing the butt pad in order to access the bolt carrier for cleaning?
Regardless, I can only speak for the one I own, and I have over 20000 rounds through mine with no issues, other than those that have arisen because of the system being dirty and needing to be cleaned, leading to FTE and FTF.
I was advised by IWI to change the springs at 20k rounds, which I have yet to do, but am planning on getting done once I start seeing regular issues.
Do the side saddles get in your way if you ever gotta use the charging handle? Great video too btw.
Thanks for checking out my video!
I don’t run into any problems with them interfering when I go to the charging handle, but your mileage may vary😂
@@PeaK808 cool. Do you think thats because of your upgraded charging handle to just practice?
@@iz3866 I’m sure it’s a combination of the two. Like I said in the video, I initially went to the MACH because I found myself going to the charging handle a lot once my TS12 started getting real dirty; it’s easier to find, easier to grip because of the slightly longer length and more aggressive stippling.
Regardless as to whether you’re running the stock CH or not, the esstac shotgun cards can really be placed anywhere you can get a good connection, so one could place the loop side of the Velcro lower on the frame as to interfere less with the charging handle, it’s really up to the end user🤙🏾
thanks for the reply, great site
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Any reccomendations for a minimalistic cheek pad?
Sorry I’m sure this is covered somewhere. What is that site on the mlok. I did not see a comment on what it is. Much appreciated
Aloha nō my friend, I know this reply is so late, I had a baby recently and I’ve been really busy, so I apologize for replying so late. The optic I’ve been running the longest and currently run is an witch EXPS 2-0
Gotta look koo wen u do it 💯
Hey pal can you review the JMAC CUSTOMS muzzle break please!
What red dot sight are you using, or would you recommend for the TS12? I'm looking at adding a Holosun 510 series with the multi reticle system.
Aloha nō! Thanks for checking out the video🤙🏾
I’ve tried multiple optics on my TS12 and have more or less settled on an Eotech EXPS-2-0 which Is a holographic sight, not a red dot, as I feel the reticle, combined with the large and clear glass lends themselves to very fast target acquisition and transition with this shotgun.
I can only recommend optics that I have personally used enough to form an opinion on, and so I cannot say much for any of the Holosun optics as I haven’t used one beyond a range session or two on students’ or instructors’ firearms.
If you’re looking for something on the budget end of the spectrum, the Sig Romeo 5 is great in my experience.
I’ve run one on my 870 police for years, not treating it very well as the gun was cheap as a police trade in. I regularly THROW that shotgun into the bed of my truck without a care, I’ve run it over with my truck accidentally and have dropped it optic first onto rocks while climbing over walls and fences several times; the optic has deep scars in the aluminum housing, the turret caps are bent and I’ve never lost zero.
The XDR is probably just as good but I don’t have as much time with that version of the Romeo as I do with the Romeo 5.
Primary Arms makes great prisms; I have the SLX cyclops on a few rigs and ran one in my TS12 for about 3 months. It is sturdy, the glass is clear, it comes with all the mounts you need to get started and most of all, the ACSS reticle has a TON of utility, and I feel is a fast optic on the TS12.
Trijicon RMRs are great but getting up there in the price as are the aim point T2s. Set it and forget it, though I’ve moved away from open reflex sights like the RMR because debris can get into the emitter, which I’ve had happen with mud.
I like the eotech the best, and I hope my answer helps you somewhat.
Have a great weekend🤙🏾
Can this gun be used by a lefty w/o getting hit by ejected shells , or should I shop for a LH one.
Aloha e my friend thanks for checking out the video.
It depends where you set your chin/cheek weld as to how often you get hit by ejecting hulls. I am predominantly a left handed long gunner, but because I also often have new shooters /students using my firearms I only buy right handed guns as the majority of people are right handed.
Also, in my crazy, inconceivable, way way out there preparedness mind, in the event something catastrophic happens and it’s the end of the world situation, most firearms one will come across in the wild will be right handed platforms, so I feel as a left handed shooter, I should be able to proficiently, seamlessly, and easily use any right handed gun.
When I shoot the TS12 with MY natural head position/chin weld I get hit once in a while but it’s only slightly noticeable and easily ignored BY ME, your mileage may vary.
I would say if you are a left handed shooter and almost always are the only person using the firearm, I would shop for a LH model.
I hope this helps
Given the Manticore butt pad and charging handle, do you have any thoughts on the Manticore muzzle brake?
Aloha nō my friend, mahalo for checking out the video!
I have no personal experience with their muzzle brake, but I’m sure it’s a quality product.
Like I’ve told many other people who have PMed me about brakes for the TS12 and such, the truth is, in my opinion, it’s really not necessary by any means of practicality; the TS12 is very soft shooting and controllable for a 12ga, but if you wanna get those cool points with the brakes, by all means get it!
you didn’t mention the type of site you have. thanks for other info.
I apologize for the late reply, I just had a baby so I’m really busy and not having much time for this. I purposely didn’t mention my optic because I feel they’re really subjective person to person, but the optic I’ve been running the longest is an EOTECH EXPS 2-0, because of the large window, and the true holographic reticle works well with my astugmitisn and implants in my eyes
Great video. I ordered each of the accessories recommended.
I am unable to install the Carlsons Tactical Choke. I did get the Ber/Ben model. I removed the existing cap but the new choke is same diameter as barrel. I’m sure I am doing something wrong. Any advice?
Aloha nō my friend, mahalo for checking out my video🙏🏽🤙🏾
Yes, you’re on the right track; remove the barrel nut, and then use the choke wrench included with your TS12 (I’m sure any beretta/benelli choke wrench would work) then remove the factory choke that comes installed. Screw in your new choke and get to blastin’ 🤙🏾
@@PeaK808 - Thanks for the quick response. That worked and looks very cool.
I already have a Vortex Spitfire Scope.
Next accessory will be IWI / Savvy Sniper Sling WD.
Total badass gun!
any optics suggestions? 😢
Where are you bro?
Bro, you’re a natural TH-camr.
Not when he doesn’t even mention the optic he runs on it. You wait the whole video and just leave disappointed.
Did you have to ship it back to IWI to get it switched to left hand?
Aloha nō and thank you for checking out my video! I posted a video a while back about the left hand conversions ( th-cam.com/video/jwdo51g-uN0/w-d-xo.html )and in that I spoke about how although my strong side with long guns is my left, for several reasons I was choosing to keep my right handed TS12. However, yes, if I did want to convert my TS12 to left handed configuration I’d have to send it back to IWI (no charge). It is not configurable by the user like how the T7 is, and to a lesser extent the X95
Vatos locos for eveaaa
Hi I have UTAS - UTS 15 Shotgun, Can you recommend some accessories. Thanks
Aloha nō my friend, I apologize for the late reply. I don’t own an UTAS15 (super cool you have one!), and I don’t make videos about platforms or pieces of equipment that I don’t have personal experience with, so until I get one for myself, I won’t be making any videos specifically for that platform or the accessories to go with it.
However, I will get to work on a short video about some optics choices that I’m sure will work great with your UTAS 15
I cant find the link for that choke all i see is .715 not .725
It’s an improved cylinder choke. .715 on the website🤙🏾 you found it🤙🏾🤙🏾🤙🏾
100%
What optics are u using?
Aloha nō my friend, thanks for checking out the video.
I’ve run through several different optic setups, but have “settled” on the EOTech EXPS-2-0 and have been running that consistently for the past couple years.
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🙏🏽 mahalo for checking out my videos🤙🏾
What kind of sight is that?
It’s an EOtech EXPS-2
Mahalo for checking out my channel and have a great week🤙🏾🤙🏾
i am surprised you can get a ts12 in hawaii
Works now. Sorry
...wtf did he say?
Don’t repeat it, I’ll probably get in trouble
You can’t even tell us what optic you have on it? Lol
I have a tendency of making my videos too long by going off topic instead of staying focused. Something that didn’t make the final cut to this video was the reason why I didn’t mention what optic I’m running.
I wanted to keep to accessories specifically for the TS12 and/or shotguns, as one thing the TS12 DOESNT have going for it at this time (it has gotten better) is aftermarket and 3rd party support.
Also, it’s my opinion (which isn’t worth much, I’m just some guy on the internet after all) that optics are such a personal preference for shooters, and had I started talking about my optic, that would have been another video all together.
I’m planning on doing a video about this optic on this shotgun and why, but it just didn’t make sense to me including it in this video.
In case you didn’t see it couldn’t tell in the video, it’s an EOTech EXPS-2-0
@@PeaK808 totally get it. I couldn’t tell if it was the EXPS2 or EXPS3…or how many dots you chose to have 1, 2, 4…I’m guessing not 4 lol
Thanks for the timely response. Much appreciated.
@@natoshi_sakamoto absolutely, I’m glad to help out and having conversations like this as well as creating a space for people to talk about firearms and share information about the lifestyle are some of the main reasons why I started this channel.
Since we’re talking about it already, I chose the EXPS2 because I like having the option of being able to remove my optic if I need to, as well as appreciate the higher mount height.
The EOTech is fast, but the most important thing FOR ME is that it is a true holographic optic, and as someone with severe astigmatism and Keratoconus, the reticle remains stable and clear to me instead of blowing out or shattering like a lot of true RDOs do, again, for me, because of the condition of my eyes.
I like the added benefit of being able to do rough range funding through the EOTech’s reticle, and, though I’m not “married” to any one platform or piece of equipment (I will use whatever works best for me) my experience with multiple EOTech optics have been great and it’s what I like to use on this set up.
I’ve tried RMR type 2, Burris Fastfire 3, Romeo 5, Romeo 5 XDR, aimpoint T2, primary arms cyclops, vortex sparc II, Romeo 4, aimpoint acro, and a few others, but with this platform I’ve always come back to the EOTech
ProTip: do not open with begging for subs & money.
Thanks for the pro tip!
How do you open with your videos? I tried checking out your channel to get a better idea of how I should go about asking for support so I can make my content better and do giveaways and stuff like that but I didn’t see any of your content, not sure if I’m blocked or something, but would you mind shooting me a link or a way to check out your content so I can learn from you and improve?
The bigger channels I watch throw in a “like and subscribe” somewhere in their content, but, maybe I’m following the wrong creators. I’ll do my best to stop begging for subs and money in my videos.
Mahalo for checking out my video and for the constructive input, I hope you have a great weekend🤙🏾
@@PeaK808 You are most welcome.
As I've no need for public validation, not monetization .... I have nothing more to offer. Best of luck on your journey to YouiTube fame & fortune!
@@1Surt lol