EPIC EcoDiesel Gladiator Frankenlift... Teraflex, Falcon Shocks, EVO Mfg, Black Rhino, Maxxis Oh My
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ต.ค. 2024
- Here goes Phase One of the EPIC Jeep Gladiator Rubicon EcoDiesel build... first up, a suspension system that will give us some good ground clearance and handle the 300lb+ weight increase. As there is really no quality packaged suspension product for the EcoDiesel Gladiator, we worked with Teraflex, Falcon Shocks and EVO to assemble the pieces we need to achieve our goals.
What we executed is a smooth-riding, yet sporty 4.5" suspension frankenlift on 38" tires.
Here's the general parts list. Sorry, no part numbers at the moment, we'll fill that in here later when we have time.
EVO 4.5" Plush Ride Springs for JT
Teraflex Front & Rear Swaybar Links
Teraflex Front & Rear Bump Stops
Teraflex Adjustable Front Track Bar
Teraflex Front Spring Spacers
EVO Adjustable Rear Track Bar
Teraflex Front Drop Brackets
Teraflex Adjustable Alpine Arms (Set of 8) with IR Bushings
EVO Extended Rear Brake Lines
Falcon 2.1 Mono Shocks for JT
Falcon Nexus 2.2 Adjustable Steering Stabilizer
EVO & Teraflex Shock Extensions
Black Rhino Abrams Wheels in Textured Matte Gunmetal (20x9.5)
Maxxis RAZR M/T Tires (38x13.50R20)
If you have any questions, feel free to hit us up in the comments, or via any of our social media channels. epic-4wd.com
These guy's know exactly what they're doing.
High quality content, sense of humor, insightful. Love it. Now I need. Khan of my own!!!
"Gentle modification" * grabs saw * - great video haha can't wait for my EcoDiesel!
Ha Ha, yeah that big-ass Diesel exhaust gets in the way, so things gotta be cut!
@@EPIC-4WD what exactly had to be cut?
Looks incredible
I had to watch it again I need a jt like this in my life
Ha Ha... yeah, its pretty awesome to drive around. Off-Road testing commences soon ;-)
@@EPIC-4WD post video!!
@@4estadventureclub Oh we will be!
@@4estadventureclub hhf
Uff! That Stormtroopers helmet like grill🥱🥴🤭(5:04)
U guyz did awesome job..i wish u guyz fix ma sahara like that..stay safe y'all
Thanks Muchly! We can make Saharas super capable ;-)
Awesome work!
Thanks Yucan!
Great video! I can't wait to see more!
Thank you!
Very nice rig!
Thanks! Lots more planned for this build so stay tuned!
That’s a bad ass truck
Thank you sir!
I like the 20 inch wheel
Thats how they should come from factory
Well done beautiful truck
Agreed. For most people, this is a little too tall. We do the 2.5-3.5 lifts on 37s all the time and it looks really good.
@@EPIC-4WD i think that one is perfect! Do you think it will need gears?
@@EPIC-4WD Disagree, 4.5" is getting close to the right height, if you want to use and abuse it like you would a Wrangler. If you are fetching groceries, sure 2.5-3.5 w/ Rockslide Eng step is probably your "go to".
@@4estadventureclub Yes, since we're running 38" tires and want to maintain as much of the torque as possible... and it will be loaded up with bumpers and armour... we're going to re-gear to 4.56 shortly.
@@EPIC-4WD i like using and abusing more than getting groceries hahaha
And awesome make sure to post build progress i love the tech videos great work guys
Awesome 👌
*Borat "Very Niiice!"*
LOL!
Man that looks awesome... I’d give my left but up for that beauty.... this lift and tire combo would it be alright for daily and weekend warrior or 37’s would be better?
I'm driving it as a daily like this with 4.56 gears and it's a blast to drive with all the torque, but smaller tires are always better for daily driving... less wear/tear and much better fuel economy.
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This is hands down my favorite JTRD build you all do some amazing work. I was going to ask did you run shock extension brackets in the rear to use the Flacon 2.1’s like you did in the front. I ask because after doing some research it looks like Teraflex doesn’t make them for the JT only the JL. However I did find out that EVO MFG makes some and am wondering if you used those in this build.
Thanks for your comment. This video is quite out of date now. We just typically do the 3.5" or 4.5" kit from Teraflex with the corresponding Falcon 2.1 or 3.3 shock. No need for a frankenlift now ;-)
@@EPIC-4WD Thank you for getting back to me. I will do my research on the Teraflex site and get the correct shocks for which ever lift I choose. Still undecided if I will go with the 3.5” or 4.5” lift. I wish you all stocked Teraflex parts on your site I would like support your business and purchase the kit from you guys. I will however take a look on your site and see what other off road gear you have all for camping. Thanks again.
I thought it was all about "Adventure & Travel"...so why the 20s???
I know eh? The core reason is that I wanted 38" tires and that size doesn't exist in the brands I want in a 17" rim. 38s just look right proportionately with the Gladiator the way we set it up. I managed to wheel pretty hard in the Kootenays this past August/September on 20s and didn't really have a problem. So we'll see how these do. There's still quite a bit of sidewall ;-)
@@EPIC-4WD I’m interested in installing the same wheel and tire on my diesel. Can you tell me what pressure you run on the street with these and where you air down to off-road?
Also when you re geared did you add trusses to the axle housings and or swap axle shafts?
I was fairly certain when they released the specs, Jeep said it was exactly the same as the other JTs except for the weight up front, so why would they make "EcoDiesel" specific lift? All you should really need is a beefier spring made for that weight right? Is there something different about the suspension or how it is set up besides it's weight correction? Please tell us, would really like to know. BTW looks Awesome too!
There are multiple little differences with the EcoDiesel. We assembled the products that we wanted from various brands to get the road manners we wanted. We compromised on the Falcon shocks, being that we had to use the 2.1s rather than the 3.3s. After driving it a few days, the front end needs to be a bit stiffer, thus the Falcon 3.3s for EcoDiesel should correct that once Teraflex sends us a set ;-)
I didn’t realize timthetatman worked in your shop
ha ha!
Was there any interference with the rear control arms and the DEF tank? Was the front Teraflex spacer to accommodate for the extra weight of the diesel? Thanks I'm curious because mine arrives Wednesday or Thursday.
No DEF tank clearance issues... essentially they just made the fuel tank smaller and used the space for the DEF tank. The 1" spacer in the front was to accommodate the eco diesel weight up front.
@@EPIC-4WD Wonder what Krawler is talking about then. I guess it's something to do with their rear control arm mod.
@@zimbambadu they’re 4 link Pro X cradle setup in the rear will not work with the ecodiesel. Clayton has a brand new 3.5” lift that clears 38s specifically for the diesel and the rear trac bar will clear a 37 easily underneath
Great looking build! Did you encounter any drivshaft issues?
Yep. With this much lift, you need a new front driveshaft ;-)
It’s just another car❗️👏
Why not put EVo suspension and King shocks on it??
Because not everybody wants an evo suspension or king shocks
Can you guys list the parts and what size lift.
We did. It's all in the video description ;-)
I gave my teraflex stuff away and bought all Evo stuff
Love the mods, what's the MPG difference?
Don't know the exact number, mainly because I simply don't care... but I'd guess about a 20% hit.
Did you guys have any issues with clearance around the DEF tank? What exactly did you do to the rear exhaust? Seems like a lot of compromises were made to be 'first'.
There was no clearance issues with the DEF tank (with the parts we used) and we didn't touch the rear exhaust... so not sure what you're referring to. Really the only compromise was going with Falcon 2.1 shocks instead of the 3.3s or the 3.5s as Teraflex/Falcon have yet to release them. We'll swap the shocks out when we have them.
@@EPIC-4WD I was referring to the 'gentle customization' with the saw. Can't wait to see what else you do!
@@zimbambadu Ah, that part was cutting the bolts for the front upper control arm as you cannot remove the bolt because the exhaust is in the way.
I know this sexy beast wasn’t made for mpgs but out of curiosity with the eco diesel what does it get for fuel economy after all the mods?
Untouched like 28 mpg Hwy with 35s around 23 mpg hwy
Rolling stock is more challenging and more fun
In the video did it have the 4.56s in it? Looked to have some “pep” already.
I know my 3.8L JK on 37s would have never EVER got up like that
No, it had 3.73s from factory in this video. We changed out for 4.56 shortly thereafter.
@@EPIC-4WD the Eco Diesel seems great compared to 3.8 JK
I’m gonna order my JT after the new year. Seems like you guys have them pretty dialed in for lifting.
Watched some more of your vids and I’m probably going the 3.5” w/ 37s
I don’t need more than that for anything I’ll be doing
@@joshzilla007 Sounds like a plan sir. The JT will be worlds better than your JK 3.8L... it'll blow face off.
Soooooooo....what's the plan for gearing?
4.56 Gearing is in and works wonderfully ;-)
@@EPIC-4WD so if you are running 38s on that thing with updated gears, what is you average MPG?
@@Jonesdawg79 In Canadian terms, I'm driving like a moron and getting 14.2L/100. I don't know what that is in Freedom measurements. Regardless, you don't buy one of these with MPG in mind. You buy it for the torque ;-)
@@EPIC-4WD Yes, I know you don't buy one for the MPG....;) I was just curious. Either way, if you got about 20 mpg highway with 38s geared properly, that would be amazing...
How much it cost ?
Why do you call it a Franken lift if it’s all teraflex parts?
What gears are in this
Changed out the stock 3.73s for 4.56s. She be amazeballs now ;-)
Wish I could find a bolt on 2.5-3" lift (other than mopar) for my diesel gladiator :/
I'm sure as time goes on, companies will come out with a Diesel-specific kit. However, we can tell you we are building about 4 EcoDiesels a week with this particular setup and it drives and operates amazing.
@@EPIC-4WD I just bought a Sport S model with the Diesel. I want to run 37 x 12.5 on the stock 17" wheels. Any idea what the appropriate amount of lift would be? Also, since you are doing so many - please answer this question: do ALL diesel Gladiators come with the wider (Rubicon width) D44s?
@@velvetrose0001 Hello! Congrats on your EcoDiesel JT! Few quick comments we can offer. 1. Don't put a 37x12.50R17 tire on the stock rim as the stock rim is too narrow. Yes, people do it, but you shouldn't. You'll also run into an issue where wheel spacers may be necessary depending on your lift. Just buy proper wheels. We typically run Fuel wheels 17x9 with a +1 offset. 2. Your sport-s has the low fenders, so you'll have to go with a taller lift to clear the 37" tires "properly". Many folks run 37" tires on a stock jeep and adjust the bump stop, but then you have no up-travel. We typically spend $1,000 on Mopar rubicon fender kit, which will give you the taller fenders. 3. Most of the lifts you see us do are 3.5" Teraflex or 2.5" EVO. Both pretty much measure the same final height. If you have any other questions, feel free to give us a call 604-888-2961. We get calls from all over Canada and the USA ;-)
When installed the Teraflex 3 1/2” kit on a Overland ED, will the driveshaft need to be replaced? Also the brake lines extended?
@@Abnmarine1970 Hey There! No, you don't have to do anything with the drive shafts, they are in acceptable operating angles. As for the rear brake lines, with the Teraflex kit, no you don't have to replace them.
Just curious as to what the correct amount of lift is on that one?
This is using EVO 4.5" coils on 38" tires.
@Epic Adventure Outfitters do the EVO coils pair well with the Falcon Shocks? Any opinion on Bilstein 8100 (non bypass) or fox 2.5 dsc?
So how many inches of lift was this?
whats the MPG been like?
No idea what freedom measurements are, but in Canadian terms, we're about 13L/100 on 38s and 4.56 gearing... driving around town.
@@EPIC-4WD that is 18.09 mpg or smiles per gallon haha
that's void warranty? How high can i lift my gladiator without voiding the warranty?
Nope, installing a lift does not void your warranty ;-)
What kind of modifications can you do on vehicle that has 800lb payload?
Iam a hard ass I will just throw springs on the ground!!!!
"couldn't find a lift for our gladiator so we used a lift for a gladiator"
Those dogs fart a lot