First Drive In 30+ Years!? OFCOURSE IT GOES BAD... 1955 Chevy Nomad Gasser
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- The moment we've all been waiting for. Finally time to take this bucket bolts 1955 Chevy Nomad out on its first test drive. I have been meticulous with all the wiring and plumbing of fuel and brake lines.
So after all the countless hours over the gears it was time to go for a test drive. Can you guess how it went? Exactly! not well! This car did go the furthest its gone in many many years. Lots of tuning is still needed but we'll figure it out on the next one.
What do you guys think is wrong with it?
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Better than your pile (of a 55).
I was waiting for Uncle Tony to let you have it for putting this Holly stuff in it.
Nothing to do with the problems you're having, but that headliner is driving me crazy! Lol 😂
Yea, I keep expecting to see a mouse head appear inside there at any time. 😊
I want to know more about these “brownies”. Dan was VERY happy after he had them.
Very happy 😁
😂same
The good brownies, mmmmmmm.
Special ingredients ha ha
Gave him more munchies.
If you had carburetors, you'd be home now 😊
Exactly!!! Technology has done nothing but screw-up the automotive world. He's building a 55 gasser.....Go Old School all the way.
My mother always told me if frogs had wings it wouldn't bump its ass every time it hopped
lol, a pair of Carrter quads will fix that!
Best bet would to get home, open up the manual and go step by step to the end double checking all wiring connections.
I didn't read the instructions ... why does this not work? lol this sure is entertaining
The Holley absolutely requires it's own dedicated power! No splicing.
Dierectly to the battery
From where it came from to where it is now is simply Amazing !!! Got to see it on the road finally. 😃 When you get the bugs worked out that car will be amazing. I still think you are a legend for bringing the Nomad back from the grave,😃
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I appreciate that you show all the struggles. You’ll get it figured out and it will rip.
Just FYI, put your EFI trigger (switched hot) on a relay to isolate it.. Snipers in particular are sensitive to electrical interference, and isolating its power from the rest of the car’s electrical system will help.
more grounds the better, power MUST be clean on separate circuit without nothing else. Fuel pressure is critical must be within the range in in manual. Make sure to save data in steps in the manual.
more grounds the better..plus shielding electrically all data signal wires will help
Dan, wrongway here !!! Been watchin "future Dan " work on the brick you were gifted by VGG!!! P.S. you get this Nomadd figured
out !!!
My favorite part of this video? The removal of the horn ring and the checking of the steering wheel nut by hand. 😅
And yes we've all been there🎉
Check for vacuum leaks. That efi setup should be looked at a tuner. I think you guys did a great job this far!!! The learn feature only gets so close. A good tuner will help iron out all the bugs. But I call it a win. DD speed shop
I had a sniper, and never got it to work right. I even sent it back to Holley, and they gave it a clean bill of health. After 2 months of struggle I gave up and went back to carb. Couldn't be happier, and I'll never get stranded.
Hallelujah brother, amen!!
I've done several of those sniper systems, all worked well except for one, tour getting EMI interference. That coil being mounted by wiring can cause it, you have to be very careful running any of the snipers by noisy components, alternator, distributor, coil, power wires etc...hope that helps 😀
I agree, it’s likely “noise” from the coil or plug wires running across or near the Holley wiring.
This I agree with
Had a similar problem with Sniper EFI on a 396" L-78 in my 150 utility sedan..got it tuned and distributor walked and backfired through the carb..after retiming was pinging like crazy..now have a blown headgasket..I originally built the engine in1979 for a 10:90 57 chev..never replaced the rear main and am now looking forwardt o pulling the engine to replace the seal..no one said it would be easy.
Check your headliner… there might be a hole somewhere causing the problem
Your mags look a lot better! They fit the look of the NOMAD.
needs cragars.
Thats why all my cars have carbs & points
Agreed Wayne
Dan,
Always run the power for the Sniper computer directly to the battery using it's own wire. Never tie into the hot wire going to the coil.
Might want to use a switch on it.
Good job maintaining your cool in such a challenging situation!! You'll get it all figured out.
1 single 750 holley and down the road we go LOL!!! You guys make me laugh like crazy LOL!! I love your show
I feel your pain. Some times everything feels good but you just end up heading back home because things go south under the hood. You have done a great job with the nomad, keep working out the bugs.
Hang in there Dan I have no doubt you will figure it out. It’s new to you it will be a learning curve. 👍😎✌️
I love that your channel is plastered down the side for everyone to see hear and laugh ha ha
I installed a Holley Sniper on my -71 Camaro SS 396 and did it EXACTLY according to Holley’s documentation and it works absolutely flawlessly
You'll figure it out! Don't sweat it and keep at it. I love your videos. So inspiring
Anyone that gives you any grief over this car just doesn't get your style. Trust me. There's a ton of us that don't comment very often that do. Pretty much why we keep coming back. I can tell just by the looks on your face that set up surprised even you. That car is gonna be sick when you figure it all out. Be cool if VGG stopped by. He's run this set up and could probably help you get it to sing, That being said I myself have a place my heart for these Nomads. I don't think there is another car that has the same ominous stance and look to it without being an actual hearse. And still look like it has a pack of non filters rolled up in the sleeve. Peg sent me.
I think you’re 80% there, you and Danny.
You folks will sort it out shortly but get it aligned first.
As said by others, sniper wants clean switched power. Not on the coil. Also isolate the green and purple twisted pair from all other wires. I added some ferrite cores to most the inputs to get rid of the interference.
Your having alot of the common problems I've seen with the holley sniper system. I'd take the time and go over the instructions and learn system again. I'm sure you'll get it straighten out and then you guys will have a awesome time enjoying your hotrod!!
Besides the bugs ,it’s awesome seeing your hard work pay off.. enjoyed watching your journey..
You have to teach it who the boss is by giving it the old dulcich bang shift treatment 😂
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Haha its coming
@@DDSpeedShop I would expect no less sir
Dedicated constant hot and ground directly to the battery. Its shown in the diagram and written with words 😂 sweet rig brother!
"When you are pissing off the old lady, that means you have a hot rod"! Quote for the books!! LOL!! Love it!
Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.. probably something simple you'll figure it out
Only thing electronic I am going to have in my 55 that I am building is an HEI distributor. I'm sure the EFI system will be great once you get it figured out. Just not the system for me. Always enjoy seeing what you are working on. Keep Mobbin'.
The problem is that if you use bailing wire you also have to use chewing gum to attach something else. they work in conjunction with each other! This will be sorted in the end, neat car!
Bubble gum is an American thing. In Canada we use Duck tape for just about everything.
Duck tape????😁
Yes, "duck tape". Not to be confused with the inferior "duct tape". Made primarily from ground duck lips
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😂 10-4 guess ya use babies to make baby oil.
@@kerrypierre9494 survives the cold
Any issues I ever had with stand alones were battery, ground or voltage related. 5x's good luck buddy you've still come a long way with that car!!
Go back to Carbs and simple like uncle Tony said. Keep it simple. Love your channel 😊
It's so funny Dan, you complain about the smallest things that don't really matter, oh I was inconvenienced......uuuuggghh, like Charlie Brown. You have it so good that the slightest inconvenience then whine and scream like a roaster. Just be thankful that you have an amazing Father with good upbringing, no real problems to worry about, like dying in war. Once you go through war everything else is easy peezy. I may be harsh, but just relax and adapt. Thanks.
EFI is great when it works. I had one in my 57 for a few years before it went belly up on me. Now i just have an AFR gauge and a tune kit for my carburetor for each of my vehicles
Everything I've seen involving these systems is like you've said it absolutely needs clean voltage! I have NO DOUBT you will get it sorted!
IF i remember right holly has to have a clean 12v right to the batt not off the alt or any other source
Give urself a break Dan, like ya said technology! As it learns you will learn more and more as well! As you've already been doing! Keep on keeping on! Love ur channel!
It almost sounds like a timing or cross wire problem, or a vacuum leak, but it's great to it see on the road, just a few more adjustments, then it will be cruising time!👍😎
its probably all of these things. start with timing. work from there. could also try a known good ignition module and coil.
Dan did you see what happened to Brent at halfass garage--Huge fire-everything total loss--VERY SAD !!!
Unbelievable. What a nice guy he is too.
What? When?
@@mrbill8542 yeah I saw I just went and watched it. Sucks
@@ogt92fromthe1step9 I wish we could start a go fund me for him
@@mrbill8542 there is a pinned link in the description of that video that is started for him
Have a great Sunday y’all bad days good days just good to see y’all. Where is the convertible it’s not raining the other 55 is there. Just ride next week will be better
You need to wrap the engine wiring harnesses with RFI shielded braiding and double check all of your grounds within the whole system..... Check both of those & retry I will bet its going to help
hopfully you're not chasing gremlins for too long. Thats a sick build and i'd like to see you and the ole lady enjoy it.
I too, have long hair worn loose. I have found that getting it caught in the belt, while running, "tidys up" the engine area real quik. Even better if your gold chain goes in too. Rock on DD,,,K,,,
This is why I prefer old school one wire to the distributor , one wire to the alternator, one wire to the starter.
The ever illusive Rad Cap, I love it.
Don’t know if this would be relevant to your problem but........
Years ago a friend put a computerized TPI on his Hotrod. It ran like a scalded dog until it hit operating temp, then would shutdown like he turned it off at the switch. It would not start until it cooled down a bit, then started and ran great, til the temp got up again. He couldn’t figure it out and finally got in touch with a local Chevy dealer mechanic who told him when wiring it up all the connections had to be SOLDERED CONNECTIONS. Seems typical wiring connectors was causing a degradation in the voltage from the heat, enough that the computer didn’t like the flux in voltage and would shutdown the engine. He took it apart, soldered all the wiring connections, and never had another problem after that.
Not saying it’s your problem but the computerized systems like you have can be finicky. Hope you figure it out! 👍😎
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Congratulations Dan. It has been a long journey.
I wish I could go on Power Tour this year, I live almost dead center of the route they are taking (Charlotte area) but we had planned our vacation before the route was made public and we can't change our plans.
We did power tour in 2014. My wife enjoyed it which I did not expect.
Good luck on the trip.
Ok Dan, I’ve been thinking hard about what’s wrong with the Nomad. My many years of hot rodding has given me a vast knowledge of troubleshooting these quirky issues your having with the car and I’ve come to the conclusion that the nut behind the wheel is loose. Just fix that and you’re golden. 👌
Hello again from New Brunswick!!!! Love seeing the Nomad!! Can't wait to see more on its r build up!!
I have faith in you Dan yall get it I am pretty sure you have to drive it for awhile and do not dis connect the battery I'm sure once you drive it more and it's fixed it will have all the information logged.
Dani I do the same thing with my wife. Sometimes it's just nice to not have the woman you love hear the things you say when you're Really mad or frustrated 😂😂 best for you gals that way
Hey Man I'm very impressed with your humility. I'm sure 99% other Utube builders edit out their blunders !!
You are a patient man Dan! I would have torn the snipers off and bolted a Double pumper on it and been done with it after the first lap around the block! Then again, I haven't given up on my Hilborns yet either. You'll sort it out! BTW, those Real Deal Halibrands...Wow! Keep up the great work and I look forward to seeing it all resolved soon! Take care!
Good job,Dan. 🤔maybe some more learning will work. 😳 another puzzle to solve. Yay!
Did you confirm base timing with a timing light? And do u have resistor spark plugs and wires? Non resistor will interfere with the ecu
Suggest u mount that display on top of the steering column temp with hot glue or equv. so u can see whats going on easily. But love the sound. Can't wait 4 u 2 iron out the bugs.
Luck is on your side brother finding that wrench proves it ps nice ride
Hope you get it running right. I’m old school I will stick with my carburetors.
As a mechanic you'll make a great carpenter one day
It's awesome to see it out on the road. No experience with sniper so can't help but man it'll be sweet once ya get the kinks worked out
I had breakup in higher rpm on my car with aftermarket coils, the noise everyone is talking about was the first thing that got dealt with, along with a million grounds and on the dyno working backwards the main problem was the wires from the coils to the plugs. Couldn’t handle the strong spark I guess. We put some higher dollar plug wires on and it fixed the ingnition breakup completely
Every new build has it's share of problems. The electronics will be interesting to sort out. Rock On, Dan & Dani.
Dan I want to thank you for being the 3rd car guy... VGG & Q?G also had issues installing a ....SNIPER..
I DON'T THINK THEY ARE WORTH THE MONEY, OR THE HASSLE. ... You guys have helped me decide on a Hard PASS.
Good morning from Athens Georgia!
Get the wiring out of the intake, its probably too close to the distributor and its throwing off electrical interference and the no data thing must be ground related. Make sure you have a nice ground ftom the body to chassis and engine to chassis. I know you have solid mounts but they could have powdercoat or something. Also run a ground strap from the head to the body these might seem like trivial things but ive seen them have issues on regular EFI on all types of makes. The sniper may be more reliant on grounding and dedicated power. Also could be real sensitive to electrical interference like a distributor, coil, or alternator. Youll get it sorted and itll be good in no time im sure. You probably already have it taken care of!
Dude!!! This weekends You Tube videos in the car world has been mayhem and real world!!! Everyone is having a bad car day!!!✌️
part of the fun with old cars is they are analog. thumbs up
Well now you know why I hate computer technology in cars I like the KISS principle “Keep It Simple Stupid” less chances of something going wrong & easier to fix. Oh ya ..by the way, I LOVE your accurate speedometer.
Seperate your grounds ihad the same issue somehow the ground wires were screwing with the ohms
There are only four reason why the efi would be acting that way. Electronic interference because computer is close to battery or other electronic devices. It's not receiving enough ground signal (ground straps). The MAP sensor is not picking up signal because the TPI system put the sensor inside their throttle body. Move the MAP sensor down from the throttle body to the intake. 1 bar rife sensor are better for NA than the GM used in most systems. The power wire from the efi must be directly hook up to the red post on the battery. Hope that helps.
Holley’s got to have it’s own power and on a relay also give it its own separate ground. A battery ground and engine block to frame ground won’t do it. Hope that helps again the more grounds the better.
You have convinced me, no fuel injection and no 5 speed
No no. 5 speed good, fuel injection is a pass
Old school is sometimes simpler and I saw way more people on power tour messing with there EFI than I saw adjusting there carbs
I was thinking to myself during the video. ..I bet that thing would be running just fine if it was running regular carbs. I still like the idea of the efi setup hes running, I think he'll get it dialed in.
Simplicity is best, especially with several cars
Both good. Just don’t let it beat you. Never give up, never surrender.
It went bad? Im shocked!!!
Right?
It's like I'm watching myself lol. The joy of bringing them back from the grave.
Don't stop beleivin' in the Nomad build Dan. You are just a small town girl, livin' in a lonely world 🎶 🎵
Dan,
I could empathize with so much with you at 17:00 to 18:00 minute mark , when you were sitting in the car all ready to go and it just kept dieing. Wha? How? Whyyyy? It was just fine a moment ago........ I am sure you will get it in the end, but oh man, in between. I would be trying to find the tools I threw, you are a paragon of patience.
Love it. Works for five minutes, and we're good to go!
Good thing your copilot has a positive attitude so you don't go over the edge when things get a bit frustrating, nice work Dani. It's time to have a brownie take a deep breath and go over all the connection points and verify, make a list, check it twice. Good video, this stuff isn't always sunshine and puppy dog tails, it can be a pain in the rear sometimes, but when it's a pain and you figure it out you always remember.
i have always understood you get on the road and just drive for it to learn. not short spurts
Hi Dan, another idea 💡 for the radiator is to install a second fan behind the radiator. Set it up to be pushing and pulling at the same time to cool the radiator faster when in operation. I don't know, I'm just an old man that's been working on machines for forty years. Yikes 😳 forty years. Time sure flies in life. Thanks.
Check the distributor, i had the same poping problem with my 91 s10 and it would loose power like it was running out of gas. I replaced every sensor and the fuel pump, filters and the throttle body and played with the timing, i was 2 seconds away from replacing the distributor when i noticed the contact on the end of the rotor button was narrow and it should be wide. All that crap and it was a bad from new rotor button. Its been running fine for over a year now.
Contact Holley, they will give you all the information you need 👍 in the meantime read everything that was sent with a sniper, and how to set it up. It's important that you do every step exactly as described. It's important to understand fully the technology you using. Keep up the good work and the cool videos guys 👍✌️🇺🇲
Hello. Great videos. Check the fuel pressure. Good Luck. Glenn
Oh that's one badd Nomadd, nice work getting it done
Front tires are screaming for mercy.😂
This things Mint, even hen being towed back!
With all those wires and electronics make sure you have good grounds. Add a few more it won’t hurt. Battery to chassis, battery to engine, engine to body etc. then double check wiring to make sure you have good clean power to certain sensors/computer. You’ll get it figured out. One day at a time.
Dan I don’t know how you do it day after day. Sometimes I have to walk away for weeks at a time.
Dan , I think you have a couple of choices. 1you. An go through and read all the comments and read all the directions on what you installed ,2read all the directions on all the equipment and fix it and 3 get some help from a tuner. You will figure it out. As always it a good video
Put a elderbrock on it call it a day 😅
I don't know about the Sniper system but if that was a carb I would say you have fuel delivery problems. Every time you try and accelerate it pops back and dies. Light throttle and it seems to be more settled. I would check out the fuel system and make sure the fuel pressure is staying in limits.
If there is a way to test all the components, to make sure that nothing is faulty. I might start there because you can do everything right and if something in the computer or circuitry is bad, nothing you do will matter. But I'm just thinking out loud. Good luck and remember, most of us are living vicariously through you, we would love to have your problems, because that would mean we would have an awesome 55 nomad in our garage.
Keep it running as the learning prompt is on..
Let it do its job..
After the learning process stops, the driving process take a couple hundred miles...
Also I had a fuel delivery issue.. It would just run.out of gas.. THAT was a B!T€H to figure out.