Yamaha YZ500 Two Stroke TEST
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ส.ค. 2024
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Charles Lytle is the man behind mXrevival, and with a lot of help from key companies in the motorcycle industry, he is able to produce some insane bike builds. The “Anihlatr” YZ500 project was made possible by working close with Riley and the crew at BRC Racing in Canada that have introduced a brand-new 500cc engine that utilizes the OEM YZ250 case’s bolt pattern, transmission and other miscellaneous OEM Yamaha items, allowing the engine to be used in a 1999-2024 YZ250 chassis with minor radiator modifications. Pretty impressive! The BRC Racing Canada YZM500 two-stroke engine kit includes everything except the donor YZ250 transmission, which is needed to complete the engine package. It’s fully equipped with a counterbalancer, exhaust valve and billet crankshaft assembly. The YZM500 kit even includes an exhaust system and new outlets for the needed radiator modifications.
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I just wish the manufacturers understood just how much we want 2 strokes back. Honda!
2 strokes have not gone away. If people wanted them they can buy one.
@@SOLDOZERmost of the manufacturers quit making them
@@ManWePaid Only 3 quit. Theres more that do make them than dont.
@@SOLDOZER both that made the 500s
@@ManWePaid Nobody was buying 500s anyways.
Bring these things back ❤
I had an 89 YZ490 and a 92 WR500. Been riding my YZ250 since 2010. Best dirt bike I've ever had.
Which felt most powerful out of the 3?
@@XHSnakes The 490. It handled like a truck though. The WR had better suspension but was really heavy. Smaller carb and more low end power. I love my 250!
yz490 was a wild beast, the sound in this video takes me right back
Sweeeet 😎
Those two strokes are more and more getting place again on the field 🔝🔝
Yes they are!
Thank the EPA and ironically enough YAMAHA@@lancerambert
What a rad build to be a collaberative part of. Charles of mXrevival you out did yourself! Thanks DBM for the indepth test and review.
Better than any factory 450 4 stroke just from the sound alone!
Ion know I own both and both have been suited with aftermarket overbore cylinders and High comp pistons. YZ501F(450 SxB) CR520(500 BB) can’t decide which one to ride so I take both everywhere I go
The resurgence of 2-strokes restores my faith in humanity.
People are too broke in the build back better economy to be racing 4 strokes.
I enjoyed your video. That bike looks so nice with all the black and the little details. Really clean looking . God Bless
I see 2 main reasons for the void of 2strokes in top level MX:
1. The 2stroke engine was dropped from all day vehicles in the 1970-1980. Development by racing did not add value for the brands.
2. 4strokes are more complex to work on for the average Joe, meaning more workshop spending and after market parts. The low cost DIY bikes (and cars) walked out the door.
2b. There is more total value for the bike producers selling a complex engine.
THIS ^
This thing is cool, hope to see one around
I had a 2003 YZ250 I bought used from a guy who had a farm. The bike was rode hard and put up wet and the "red flags" I saw I shouldn't have bought it. But I did and I learned things about this bike that I never would have if it was in good condition.
Once I got everything fixed I really enjoyed it. I always dreamed of having a 500cc 2 stroke but never considered upgrading it (nothing like that was available at the time).
I sold it, now I regret it. Want to get another "fixer upper" and the possibilities are almost endless with what's available today.
I'm waiting for a 500 twostroke with a smaller bore and a 90mm stroke! THAT would be the real deal.
Would it be possible to line this up with a 450 and do a few starts? Will it pull a current 450? Why does nobody do this when testing these bikes?
yes it will pull a 450 easily. These bikes are rare and expensive. Why take the chance dumping one just to prove that its obviously way faster than a 4 joke?
It will depend entirely on the traction available. The less traction the more it favors the 4 stroke. All of the noise and wheel spin is not generating forward progress. Why do you think a practice start is a high risk maneuver? What are you riding that leads you to make such strong statements with such certainty? By the way you are wrong. I have raced open class two strokes and four strokes which is faster depends on conditions and riding style. Nobody but the very best National riders uses the peak horsepower available from either one.
@@LordSamuelJ comments like this are EXACTLY why I want to see it. Too many guys that confidently say stuff that they have no data to support. I can honestly see it going either way. Traction is going to be a big factor, but also just the length of the 4 stroke powerband makes them easier to launch. I just want to see the comparisons to stop the uninformed guessing.
on the dyno they make the same power@@morley3810
I have been riding a KTM framed, first generation, BRC500 since 2020, and I have drag raced quite a few 450s, as well as 250 and 300 two strokes. The comments below are correct. If I find traction and hit my shifts, I will win, but the thumpers are more consistent. Honestly, it's worked out about 50/50. Also, 999Lazer has done a video with a BRC500 vs 450 race. Check it out here: th-cam.com/video/GXeWL_HEl5U/w-d-xo.html
Really need to get it back
That bike is truly terrifying. I'm still in the fetal position after the credits rolled.
sweet lookin bike! had an 86 KTM MX 2 stroke and boy was it a handful... cant imagine what the newer tech is like...
The newer ones are far more easy to ride
This would be an epic dune bike!!!😎💪
What bothers me the most is you guys have all 7 450 manufacturers to ride and test for your 2024 shootouts. But, for some reason you don't compare or race the 500cc two strokes. Don't think for one minute that there isn't enough sold. More and more are being sold every year.
More than likely cause not too many ppl can handle a 500 2 stroke. I know many ppl that won’t touch it.
@mxr248 if you and your buddies did you guys would absolutely love it. I see your piont with the steal chassi original 500cc two strokes. But, the Conversion 500cc two stroke are lighter and handle better than the 450 4pukes. With more torque also.
@@dennismillus4581 I’ve rode 500’s.. several kx and a cr .. but nothing new. Just some ppl I ride with say it’s way too much for them. Love to try the yz for sure..
Shifting up is cool
@mxr248 you would be very surprised.
I wish Yamaha would have made one but I'm sure there interested in the four strokes more now days and then those other ones with out a motor to....
2-strokes are coming back in a big way. t's only a matter of time
@@CorteumI’m sure manufacturers want to make cheaper 2 stroke but it’s greenies from the EPA that are getting in the way.
@@brianfl33916 GO away greeen nonsense! i mean, i want to maintain our environment as much as any sane person would. And we should do that. But this greenie movement is just a fraudulent movement to take power. like ESG. like DEI....like "youll own nothing and be happy" (see - klaus schwab WEF). im not buying it
@@brianfl33916incorrect, the manufacturers prefer the more expensive 4t’s, more profit for them. That’s one of the reasons some stopped making them in the first place. Soichiro Honda always hated 2t’s and the company still does. Honda is one that pushed hardest for them to be banned in MX and MotoGP. Yamaha lobbied for favorable rules for the 4t then made the Yzf400. They kept making the 2t, but didn’t spend anything on development for 15 years.
Conversion you say. My 2024 yz250 can grow up?!?!
Lol yep for only another 6k
For the price of another dirt bike, sure you may upgrade. But will you do it though? I have a YZ250F and wished I had waited for a 2 stroke YZ.
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Doesn’t sound like a 500, sounds too tinny, I could be completely wrong.. they are trenching machines, monsters, respect for the big pair of balls riding them..
Sounds precisely like a 500 - because it is one.
Sounds like a lot of clutch being used for a 500 2stroke. I will look up the specs of bore and stroke. But cant be much more expensive than the originals out there.
Biggest issue is the 6 speed gearbox of the YZ250. A WR250 would have been better, as it’s a 5 speed Wide Ratio. You do not ride an open 2 stroke like a 250.
Looks & sounds mint! 👌
Does Glen helen no longer feature any jumps at all? Every video i see from you guys or MXA or anyone out at GH only shows dudes ripping berms and the big talladega turn. I wanna see this YZ500 launch some leaps and see how it handles that.
They have a couple jumps but nothing very big during regular open hours
What a beast!
She is a dream bike, wish I could see one with a Smart Carb one day!
I'd like to see one with the new STIC Super X carb. I think Alessi ran one on his YZ325 World Vet bike. My 200SX has buddies saying it's faster than their 98 KX250 and '22 FC350. With the SC, there was no detectable power added.
@@braptech427 we all have our preferences, but if the goal is dramatically increased performance. Something like my SmartCarb will be lacking. Though I've heard from a rester that the new Pro Series Lectron is quite good, just not as aggressive or powerful. Back in the 90's, an early version of the STIC on a stock CR250 was faster than the Honda works bike. This was stated in a mag article, by a pro racer, a Honda test rider.
All of the BRC500 guys who use their bikes for snowbikes run Smart Carbs. Riley at BRC recommends Keihin/STIC for most dirt applications. The older Lectrons were hard to tune on these bikes, so they are not recommended. I haven't seen anyone try one of the new Billetron Pro's, yet, but they look promising. Really, the hot ticket, is to get one of the KTM framed BRC's which use TBI. They are next level.
What a beautiful bike
Can fast 450 4stroke
Awesome build.
Must be detuned for smooth power hardly lifts the front wheel .if its more than 55hp love to see the dyno sheet.
Way to go Charles!!
great sound. that thing barks
The beast
If that still made 500 2 strokes very few would want one. Its like Costco. If its limited it makes people want one.
Looks quick,alot of torque and traction
Can’t wait to trike one of these. 😎
Would love to have one of these
Amazing
Looks like fun !
When I was young, a YZ465 seemed like a handful. I still look back fondly at My YZ 250s. They didn't kick my ass! I think I'm more of a cross-country 300 kind of guy.
Aaah the old 465 mmmm
So epic and a 4speed gearbox😁 crazy things those good'ol bigbore 2strokes👌
@@ghost500e The YZ490 was a 4spd.
@@mikelyon5595
And the 465
@@ghost500e 5spd...
@@mikelyon5595
No, 4speed. I had one back in the 80:s and it sure asf was 4speed.
How can you say a modern chassis? It's a 2003 20 years old.
Thats ridiculous. Should've used an 05 chasis, as its the same as a 2021. I know they changed a few things in 2022, so I don't know if the 2022 and newer is the same.
It's pretty much identical geometry except the steel feels better. Call Chad Reed up and ask him.
wow! sweet bike! I can't decide between a 23 yz250x new around 6k or a ktm 300 xc-w closer to 10k. is e-start, a hydro clutch and tbi electronic fuel injection worth 4 grand on a new enduro smoker ? hmmm..
YZ ALL DAY LONG over a ktm!!!
really depends if you are riding super tight stuff all the time or not, and if you can get the KTM with a spring fork , not air. if yes to both then think harder about the KTM. if not, YZ all the way.
500 cc are kool !
All the manufacturers should go back to steel frame. They work better they last longer. Inflex is exactly what you need. KTM seems to always have the lightest bike. Even though their friends are not aluminum.
yet they cant get near the Alloy frames in the great outdoors , even Holeshotac ross the Alloy do alright too, marketing tells you weight is king well its not.
I’ve been a subscriber to Dirtbike magazine since ‘94. Watched online for a while. Why post a bike in the opening scene that breaks before the showcase? Why would one want to buy one of these?
Where did it break in the video?
You should invite Eli Tomac to test this bike too.
Nice. It has 04 graphics
Im tired of spending big bucks rebuilding 4 strokes,
Why does the top spring on the exhaust-cylinder always pop off and disappear?
I want one
Woudnt a 500 want to air wheelie like crazy off of jumps?
A yz250 bottom end?? How does the bottom end hold up ??
Cool…
Every time I see stuff like this I Kick myself for Selling my CR500🏁🏁
Why rev it like a 125 ?
Is there no tourqe on it ?
Use the whole powerband guys !
It's a 2 stroke,that;s how they're supposed to be ridden.
@@brettr Yes but it's a 500 2-stroke ,they have bottom end ,they even said that in the video but they never tried 😀
It's detonating early in the power
Good ear! We got rid of the rattle as the test carried on.
Perhaps one “cons” of our builds being for giveaway purposes is that they are completely un-ridden before these tests.
Future giveaway builds would definitely benefit from some sort of softcore test before these ride days.
No top spring for exhaust pipe?
Lean
Why stop at the BRC 500? Hmm can it be stroked and bored beyond? I may have to ask northern crankshaft in thief river falls mn. They even have a case for a 1,750cc three cylinder 2-stroke on hand. Too bad it's for a arctic cat. But they can build a custom crankshaft to put 2 motors together. Ie.... 2 BRC 500 2-stroke motors for 1000cc
I have a '22 YZ250X, will this conversion fit/work with this 500 kit?
It should. All the 22 frames are the same as 05-23
It aint the same thing, if ain't got that Ding!
the 250 was scary enough 😅
Now, just make it air cooled again, and you got it...👍
❤ che meraviglia 😊
You magazine editors are so afraid to race the updated 500cc two strokes against any of your 450 4pukes? Do we enjoy watching and listening to the 500cc two stroke, yes we do. But, over the last 25yrs the 500cc Two stroke conversions have done nothing gain popularity. More than they ever have before. Now we have 3 or 4 major companies that do thier own take on building them. The Original is Built500 aka "Service Honda ". We now have the Italian Company that has I think will be soon the most popular. TOMASIN RACING T500. You should check that bike out. I know Rick Johnston fell in love with it.
@lennyperson6441 no kidding that is my piont. Believe me I still have every issue from all magazine editorials. Let's just say I have a history.
It’s amazing how quite these bikes really are.
I’m having a poo.
All it Needs is electric start
That’s it ??
Be a good ice racing bike
Ya maybe a bigger piston but doesn't sound like it has the 500 bottom end and that guy wasn't on the back wheel every time he hit the gas😂
You sound like you know a lot about dirt bikes
I've ridden a few big bore 2 strokes old schoolers like the mid 80s cr500 and one of my best friends had a 2000 cr500 and for one they're like a brick on wheels and I just can't see a real big bore going around that track that easy that's a 250 race bike bored waaaay out don't sound anything like a real 500cc 2 stroke no big bore camming at idle first giveaway
I've ridden a few big bore 2 strokes old schoolers like the mid 80s cr500 and one of my best friends had a 2000 cr500 and for one they're like a brick on wheels and I just can't see a real big bore going around that track that easy that's a 250 race bike bored waaaay out don't sound anything like a real 500cc 2 stroke no big bore camming at idle first giveaway
I would love to see how a yammer 450 handled with a cr500 motor in it especially a older 80s model where the power band would almost rip you're hands off the grips maybe the 450 suspension would mitigate power band whip idk 😮
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Wouldn't be as fun with the added weight.
Put it in the power band
Bring back affordable bikes and the 2T
R O O S T' R ! . . .
Krispy Cringle I Sold Both My CR 500’s Long ago I’d like A New Set up with a Big Bore 2 Smoker
Def not comparable to say 2000 cr500
what a stupidly amazing bike. way too much for me. nice work on the build.
it doesn’t sound like 500 , sounds like a smaller bore bike imho
This looks no different than watching a 250 or 125. Watching a bike on a track like this does no justice for what this bike is actually capable of.
No footage of it coming off the ground at all.... that's sus. And I'm not talking about a wheelie.
❤🐝🔥
Ya don't care what the tech on suspension is if that was a actual 500cc top to bottom there would be alot more rear wheel action
It looked slow for a 500 to me.
Or maybe he just made riding it look to easy. :)
I own a 1996 CR500.
Leatherfoot GPMX
Stop smiling you know it's terrible...lol. Lucky effs.
250 bottom end so it doesnt quite move like a 500 seems like it moves more like a 360
Yah it doesn't sound like a 500 and on idel little lean sounding just my thoughts
Only the gearbox is 250 which has no affect on how it goes or handles , it has 500 crank and cases , it’s real 500 however if it was a 380-400 it would handle and turn even better due to rotational forces and the reason the original KTM 360/380 came about , modern tech means potentially smaller bore smokers can match anything from the past or any 450 diesel , but manufactures are too afraid of the green brigade to make what would be an awesome bike
Pay attention it is a true 500 not a 360 like the old Ohlins kitted bikes.
Sexual chocolate 🍫
I wish you would edit out all the farty fart sounds
theres one being built with a wr 450 bottom end and cr 500 topend .complete with e start.
honestly..no dig on nobody but..that bike looks slow imo.ive had several 500 in the last 30yrs and you surely dont need to rev it
These brc engines rev out really nice loads of over rev, I have one of these blow any 450 out of the water, loads of power
Its not a 500, its at most a over bored 250 cylinder,. Probably a 385cc at most. I ride my 86 CR 500 on the REM track (where most of their footage was shot) all the time and it sounds nothing like that.
Nice try guys, but complete BS - click bait.
@@jimmyroberts7244 BRC 500 kit look it up
It does look really slow 🤷♂️
@@jimmyroberts7244 It is a 500. 380? … Stop the joke now..
It doesn't seem as potent as my 1995 KX 500 just by listening to it.
M2GA
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Lost me when the ghetto music started.
BRC engines are junk.
This is all nonsense until the actual manufacturers produce a real 500 two stroke from the actual factories. I don’t know why people would promote this crap 💩 if it’s not real. Are you looking for readers or what?
That would never happen, if you want it you have to make it yourself.