I tried to play months ago but I changed to play in my PC because in the 3ds the fps were very unstable, in 80% of the time the game tuned well but some scenes, specially cinematics laged a lot like being in slow motion. I used the new 3ds not the regular 3ds to be clear
tbh the game lags in general because of its limitations, even on the metal gear collection , the first game lags a lot during gameplay and cutscene when too much is going on . its just how the ps1 ran it .@@SimplementeSoyVolo
The new 3ds xl is such a nice little emulating machine. Before I got a steamdeck, i would always bring my 3ds with me to work, packed to the brim with games
@@IAm-zo1bo You just can’t beat the steam deck for sheer number of possible playable games. It’s everything I ever wanted in a handheld. Not so great for taking to work though, I often just put my PSP in my handbag if I want to play something on break
@@bweaddsswill never understand people wanting to jam devices in their pockets. Completely damages the device slowly. Not thanks cases all the way 😊 things in pockets are uncomfortable
I remember back when I was hoping they could get decent N64 Emulation on the PSP, they did pretty well but I don't know if they ever got it to run something to a playable degree - love to see independent programmers take on these challanges.
this is how I played all the resident evil games !! even games that I know will never see the light of day again like master blaster, Alundra 2, parasite eve ,etc.
@@X862go it isnt odd, the new 3DS models had updated hardware and also had New 3DS ENhanced games that if played on a new 3DS it would have better performance and graphics
Whether a system is capable of emulating certain consoles has less to do with how powerful the console is and more to do with how well the emulator was written.
You get a thumbs up from me 👍 Edit: I had no problems with symphony of the night. I only experience slow down after I beat a boss and collected their orbs.
@@glow_n_show8968 yeah, but it’s a little different because I used the forwarder instead. It’s an older version of pcsx rearmed, but I can install the title directly on the home screen instead of having to sift through menus.
@@yobama5288 (I assume you are using Retroarch. I am using an earlier version of Retroarch so some names may be different for step 2) 1. Convert the bin/cue file into chd format using chdman (do this for all ps1 games btw) 2. Go into the Retroarch menu during gameplay -> core options -> video (here turn threaded rendering to asynchronous, there are other tweaks here like frameskip. That helps really well with Klonoa) 3. Going back into core options, go into gpu plug-in (advanced and turn it all on) [texture blending, lighting effects, fast lighting, hi-res downscaling] 4. You can turn on the speed hacks as well to get better performance I guess, but I don’t need it. Edit: 5. Don’t forget to save these settings in “manage core options” under core options. Otherwise it won’t remember your configuration.
The fact that they got OpenLara running on the GBA is nothing short of an impossible port, and I always love those! Another good one is Quake for the Atari Falcon
Seems cool if you already have a 3DS or like using 3DS hardware but... tons of retro portables can emulate the PS1 and N64 perfectly and even upscaled. That seems to be the way to go instead of worrying about frame and sound skips half the time. I'm personally using a Retroid Pocket 2+ which I bought a long time ago for $100.
Thanks for making this video. If you hadn't made this, I probably would not have thought to try running PS1 games on my 2DS XL. I tried out a handful of games initially and all of them ran poorly so I gave up. I later did some research and tried converting the bin/cue files into .chd format. Now those games run smoothly. No slow down. The games I tried are Mega Man X4 Mega Man X5 Castlevania - Symphony of the Night Vagrant Story The Raiden Project
We had workable PS1 emulation back in 1999 on PowerPC iMacs with Virtual Game Station and on the Dreamcast with Bleem, and I think the New 3DS has a CPU and video hardware nearly as good as either of them
Honestly, although there was much more work behind it, Virtual Game Station ran supported games far, far better than the 3DS: Nintendo portable consoles have always been underpowered, and although the 3DS was fine back in 2011, it still paled in comparison to the PS Vita (and even the PSP, since it could run most Ps1 games flawlessly). Even a portable console from 2011 should've been way faster than a PPC G3 machine coupled with an Ati Rage.
@@andy5178 The PSP runs Ps1 games pretty much natively, it is NOT 100% emulation. The PSP CPU MIPS R4000 runs the same code as the PS1 CPU MIPS R3000A, the PSP only emulates easier aspects as the sound chip and such. Even then it is not perfect as Gran Turismo 2 and Vagrant Story have fps drops in specific scenarios.
@@jaguar4120 im talking about underclocking, maybe mipmaping, shading, VSync, threads, bios everything possible to make it run better. Depend most of hardware so i cant tell exacly what it is and some times it dont fixes the problem, but what i saw it almost handle the games in brute force, fixes it will be easy Even more when we talk about ps1 games
Hey so I played Castlevania SOTN and experienced no issues that you are having lol. The worst I had was a tiny bit of a frame drop, 60 to 40ish at best, whenever a 3D monster showed up (like the bundle of weapons monster). Was able to complete the whole game with no issues.
It would be really great if you have any ressources on what settings to apply in retroarch to get such perfomrance.. My games run slower with audio glitches etc... cant get it right.
In hindsight, it sounds silly now :p But at the time of making the video it surprised me that the 3DS, a Nintendo console, had more difficulty with the N64, also a Nintendo console, than a non-Nintendo competitor from the same generation.
People have this weird notion that the PS1 "should" be harder to emulate than the N64, but as a matter of fact, the N64 (93.75 MHz, 125MIPS) can move MORE triangles than the PS1 (33.86 MHz, 30MIPS), it's just that the disc format allowed Sony to put more data (more textures for the models).
PERFORMANCE BOOSTS: "you will need to enable the following settings. Optional, or just load the cue file Compress your game to either CHD or PBP. CHD is the superior solution. Switch Audio Driver to DSP_Thread. This step is very important. Threaded audio was only added in the past few months and provides a meaningful performance boost. You will need to restart Retroarch to realize this setting change. Enable Audio Synchronization. Disable Video Synchronization (unless you are playing a 2D game). You will not notice a negative difference in 3D games. In Quick Menu -> Options, set CD Access Method to Async. You will need to restart Retroarch to realize this setting change. In Quick Menu -> Options, set Threaded Rendering to Async. This is extremely important. Threaded Rendering option was only added in the past few weeks. In Quick Menu -> Options, enable Advance GPU UNAI/PCSX4All Settings. In Quick Menu -> Options, Enable High-Res Downscaling. This option will only show up once you show Advanced GPU UNAI/PCSX4All Settings and then close and reopen the Quick Menu. M For good measure you may want to Restart Retroarch after making the last changes."
Using a bios is good for increasing compatibility with games as well. I have tried a few of these tweaks, but I haven’t tried the video sync option yet. That may help with FF9 and vagrant story a bit. Async rendering already helped quite a bit, but that might make my 3D games run perfectly. Thanks for the list of recommendations. Edit#1: Also you can use”m3u” files to get multi disk CHD games working. I used to use PBP before I figured this out. Edit#2: Also, you will want to used “synchronized rendering” (instead of async) for Tekken 3 if you want it to run at 60fps. Most 3D ps1 games did not run at 60fps, but Tekken 3 did. So do that for a smoother experience.
Edit #3: I also found that going into core options -> speed hacks and then assuming the GTE registers are unneeded gives me a nice boost and I have yet to experience rendering errors. I imagine this is different for different games. Edit #4: also disable the 3D overlay and the bottom screen UI in the settings -> user interface for improved performance and battery life. It’s a neat feature to have the Retroarch menu in 3D, but it’s not worth it. Also, don’t use simple/cubic/Gaussian sound interpolation. Just turn it off. I found that just gives me audio pops unless it’s is a scene with thunder. Simple sometimes fixes the issue if that’s the case. Going into the audio settings to increase the decibel (volume) level. I found 1.0 to work perfectly well, but the default 0.0 just didn’t do it for me. Edit #5: Wow, even with these settings, legacy of kain is playable. However, you are going to also need to enable another speed hack. One I have been experimenting with and only causes some games to run too fast. And that would be to disable cpu/gte stalls. This coupled with assuming the GTE registers are unneeded has been working pretty well for me. 3D games seem to benefit the most from this (Spyro, crash, vagrant story, FF9, legacy of Kain, etc.) Edit #6: use the specific bios called “psxonpsp660” as it apparently improves performance of games.
I've played through and finished Suikoden 1 & 2 , Tales of Destiny 2 runs great I'm playing Vanguard Bandits right now and Arc the Lad runs great on the 3DS accept the memory card doesn't work like the original PS1 or the linux-based handheld emulators retroarch does individual saves so you can't load up import the save from the first game when you start second or the second for the Third game, the emulator runs decent considering the new 3ds/2ds is only an 800+ MHz processor and for perfect ps1 emulation you need the processor around 1gig or more
Impressive but a 2020 Android phone with a snapdragon 865 can do this through duckstation with the resolution upscaled to 1080. The reason why I'm saying this is because new 3ds' are more expensive than a 2020 android phones right now.
Considering that the 3DS is powerful enough to run some PS2 era games, it would be really neat if we could get PS1 era games and N64 games working at full speed on the system. Its powerful enough, however the PS1 didn't need to emulate itself to get FF7 working so there's always going to be that need for extra power. I am a little disappointed the 3DS didn't follow the Square Enix trend for re-releasing Final Fantasy games. We got I&II, IV, V and VI for the GBA, we got a 3d remake of IV and III for the DS, we could have gotten 7, 8 and 9 for the 3DS. A wasted opportunity. So many PSP and PS1 games could have done amazing on the 3DS.
This is cool and all but man if you really want to play ps1 games on a handheld get a vita, a modded vita is a beast, better emulation, many homebrew ports, natively runs ps1, psp, and ps vita games, with the vita library including tons of ports of games from the ps2 and ps3, dont get me wrong i love my ds, but if you like this sort of thing i strongly recommend the vita
I was playing harry potter on original hardware recently and it lags in the great hall there too. That room is pushing the hardware really hard, hence no NPCs
what settings are you using? I have a new 2ds xl and I'm using CHD files but I'm having performance issues with some games that are said to run flawlessly (mainly Klonoa runs quite poorly). I turned on asynchronous threading but it didn't do much to help.
You can alter the settings to get Klonoa to run at full speed. You just need to turn frameskip to auto and that will fix the audio issues. If you couple that with the comment listing the other optimizations then you are golden. Edit: I have tested this and Klonoa runs great for me. Very playable.
Installed retroarch the other day, and eventually got it running. I wanted to play Ape escape since it's a nostalgic game for me. It works fine but i noticed that when i run straight ahead, the character only walks, so i have to hold the circle pad slightly to the right or left for him to run properly. Did you notice that? Also when i remap some of the buttons it doesn't save the setting, do i have to remap them everytime? Edit; figured it out, just an input setting or whatever it was. Also saved my button mapping.
@@smallthoughts_nl None of the issues in your video. It’s been absolutely perfect so far and I’ve played for approx 1 hour for testing. I was blown away! 😍
I feel like it’s better to play N64 and PS1 games on the PC than on the 3DS. It’s amazing the 3DS is capable of running them at all and can at least run a few without issues.
There's some weirdness about 3ds ps1 emulation. I've had both a buttery smooth experience with Castlevania and a terrible one. I reverted to an older version of the core and I haven't had problems again. something happened between versions where it is basically garbage tier emulation for some reason. Aka: try different core versions. it could be just enough to make 'that' game of yours playable or a little studdery. 10:42 About the text: Turn on Bilinear filtering. otherwise the emulation is picking and choosing pixels to put on your screen (since the ps1 is rendering at a higher resolution
I lost my patience with N3DSXL ps1 emulation and ended up buying a near mint Vita 2k for $140. No more dropped frames or emulation bugs. 3DS experience: FF7 effects lag for big boss battles. BOF4 huge frame drops while naving towns. CnC random lock ups followed by frame drops. In the end, I couldn't settle for the market terminology "playable" as that term is relative. For ps1 emulation, the Vita or PSP is the best mobile experience.
I'm just here to say (haven't even watched yet) that I got Metal Gear Solid & Digimon World running (decently) on a New 3DS XL. Don't let your dreams be dreams kids
Do you mind sharing how you got Metal Gear working on the New 3DS XL? I have only been able to get Snake Eater, and have not been able to find how to get the one in this video.
GT2 is probably running out of memory and having to constantly swap data in and out of memory in those tracks because there's too much on screen at once.
I've read of people who managed to get some 2D games to run on it, so it’s not impossible. But other than that, most PS1 games are likely unplayble on the old 3DS.
What black magic are you using? I tried this like 5 days ago and gran turismo ran at a buttery smooth 5 frames per second, with terrible audio to boot. I am also using a new 3ds xl
@@smallthoughts_nl I used retro arch, and I turned on asynchronous threading and that fixed it. Gran turismo runs at a locked 30 frames. Thanks for your help!
Hi I have a question I'm playing a game for ps1 on my 3DS and i need more then one save . Is there anyway to mimic a memory card with an app and if so please help me ? Thank you .
Ah. Emulation. I totally didn't think of that, I used a process involving a PSone to EBOOT converter and a PSone forwarder to inject'em directly, like with any not-really-Virtual-Console thing. The drawback to that is that they're HUGE, easily up into the 1-3GB size range like 3DS games.
My goodness, 1-3 GB is massive for a PS1 game on the 3ds. My largest game by far is FFIX and it takes up 1.5 GB. The forwarder seems nice, but it’s not the best if you value performance. It’s based on an outdated version of the emulator. Also, compress your games into CHD or PBP. Preferably CHD for superior file compression. PS. FFIX runs really well if you optimize your settings right.
i played ps1 games on my 3ds for a good year until i got a secondary retro handheld like the ayn odin pro, it was fun but the constant crashes especially the 3d games annoyed the hell out of me. dr slump ran very good. some games just didn't work at all, some nightly releases of the pcsx rearmed while it fix compatibility with some games i wanted to play, it broke it for the games i already found working in my folder that i already had save progress with.
surprising that it seems so difficult to emulate these games. Even the Dreamcast and PSP handily emulated PS1 games. Had a basic laptop from 2012 that emulated Kingdom Hearts 1 in HD no less
Nope, it can run them. I guess no one has covered that in a video yet. According to the compatibility list, GTA 1 runs at a slightly slower pace, while GTA 2 runs great
To run PlayStation 1 games you need a quad core model, distinguished by the control nub on the right. The dual core 3DS lacks the control nub and the power needed to run PSX games. Dino Crisis 2 is a good game to start with.
I'm confused, you say they can run on "your 3ds" which makes me believe ANY 3ds should work, but then you go on to say you ran it on a more powerful new 3ds. So can an old 3ds (xl) run these games or not?
7:30 PS1 EU versions of games often have additional anti piracy protection Libcrypt, to play these in a emulator you need extra files with the game for them to work properly.
im getting "failed to load content" in a bunch of these games. but not all. any idea what could be causing it? ive tried .cue and .chd and it happens on both.
While Rayman 2: Great Escape is a nice "proof of concept", the actual game is is silky smooth on 3DS in its retail 3DS version. You probably showed to many people what to expect from 3D games of this sort, however, the game itself is already available on 3DS.
I started a Gran Turismo 2 race on the 3DS emulator and another on Duckstation at exactly the same time. While the Duckstation race clocked in at 20 seconds on the 3DS, barely 17 had passed 😂
Great, I spent half an hour writing a comment on how to optimize the settings for this emulator and youtube deleted it :|
They only allow shitposts
@@Chronz🤬🤬🤬😱😑🇨🇳🇨🇳🍜
Make a video on it
Skill issue tbh 🤷♂️
@@ISAK.Mcringe, unfunny joke tbh
my first playthrough of mgs1 was on a 3ds... it was perfect, I loved it.
I tried to play months ago but I changed to play in my PC because in the 3ds the fps were very unstable, in 80% of the time the game tuned well but some scenes, specially cinematics laged a lot like being in slow motion. I used the new 3ds not the regular 3ds to be clear
tbh the game lags in general because of its limitations, even on the metal gear collection , the first game lags a lot during gameplay and cutscene when too much is going on . its just how the ps1 ran it .@@SimplementeSoyVolo
Way too slow for me
The new 3ds xl is such a nice little emulating machine. Before I got a steamdeck, i would always bring my 3ds with me to work, packed to the brim with games
It's more compact but the steam deck is the ultimate emulation machine
@@IAm-zo1bo You just can’t beat the steam deck for sheer number of possible playable games. It’s everything I ever wanted in a handheld. Not so great for taking to work though, I often just put my PSP in my handbag if I want to play something on break
@@cloudycolacorpit seems really good, but I think I'll wait until I can cram something with power like that into my pockets, lol
@@bweaddss that's fair. it's no gba micro lol
@@bweaddsswill never understand people wanting to jam devices in their pockets. Completely damages the device slowly. Not thanks cases all the way 😊 things in pockets are uncomfortable
I remember back when I was hoping they could get decent N64 Emulation on the PSP, they did pretty well but I don't know if they ever got it to run something to a playable degree - love to see independent programmers take on these challanges.
I remember it too Mario 64 was running pretty good.. Still good memories.
i think so. they give us hope
I think n64 is actually harder to emulate than ps1 though
It ran Mario Kart 64 well enough with the right settings.
Will never understand the appeal for the psp or vita. Tiny little annoying buttons, not comfortable to hold. 😊 overrated
this is how I played all the resident evil games !! even games that I know will never see the light of day again like master blaster, Alundra 2, parasite eve ,etc.
I really want to play the old resi games on 3ds but I have the old model. So it probably won't run well
@@Goatythemeowyou're right, I'm afraid you're out of luck performance-wise
You also wanna try out RE Revelations on the 3ds. Good Game!
The is a perfect accuracy between talking speed and speed of emulating games in this video.
Just great!
Your NEW 3DS can run PS1 games. Old 3DS and 2DS cant.
💯
So odd the new 3ds is so much more powerful 😅
I ran Symphony of the Night.
@@X862go it isnt odd, the new 3DS models had updated hardware and also had New 3DS ENhanced games that if played on a new 3DS it would have better performance and graphics
@@WubstahWulfyup same with DS and DSi, dsi was more powerful
Whether a system is capable of emulating certain consoles has less to do with how powerful the console is and more to do with how well the emulator was written.
More developers and consumers need to know this.
new 3ds: runs ps1 games
old 3ds: emulates a advance game at 10 fps
You get a thumbs up from me 👍
Edit: I had no problems with symphony of the night. I only experience slow down after I beat a boss and collected their orbs.
Did You Edit the config too?
@@glow_n_show8968 yeah, but it’s a little different because I used the forwarder instead. It’s an older version of pcsx rearmed, but I can install the title directly on the home screen instead of having to sift through menus.
@@sias.2569Do you have a link to a tutorial to do that :0
@@yobama5288
(I assume you are using Retroarch. I am using an earlier version of Retroarch so some names may be different for step 2)
1. Convert the bin/cue file into chd format using chdman (do this for all ps1 games btw)
2. Go into the Retroarch menu during gameplay -> core options -> video (here turn threaded rendering to asynchronous, there are other tweaks here like frameskip. That helps really well with Klonoa)
3. Going back into core options, go into gpu plug-in (advanced and turn it all on) [texture blending, lighting effects, fast lighting, hi-res downscaling]
4. You can turn on the speed hacks as well to get better performance I guess, but I don’t need it.
Edit: 5. Don’t forget to save these settings in “manage core options” under core options. Otherwise it won’t remember your configuration.
@@sias.2569 Could you email me the instructions if that is okay. If not no biggie :)
OpenLara exists for 3DS too, if you want the best experience, I'd say 😄 but it's amazing how many ps1 titles are playable on the 3ds now
also for GBA lol
The fact that they got OpenLara running on the GBA is nothing short of an impossible port, and I always love those! Another good one is Quake for the Atari Falcon
& 32X which is insane lol
This is actually a really great video I always thought 3ds needed PS1 to shine
It shines on its own
Legend of the dragoon is an awesome tittle to run on the 3ds. I've still never finished the 4 disc series but its a favorite of mine
Never even thought of this as a possibility tbh but a pretty decent idea even if a compatibly list may be required.
Seems cool if you already have a 3DS or like using 3DS hardware but... tons of retro portables can emulate the PS1 and N64 perfectly and even upscaled. That seems to be the way to go instead of worrying about frame and sound skips half the time.
I'm personally using a Retroid Pocket 2+ which I bought a long time ago for $100.
Remember to activare async CD accesss and async audio in settings and you can reach stable 60fps
Thanks for making this video. If you hadn't made this, I probably would not have thought to try running PS1 games on my 2DS XL. I tried out a handful of games initially and all of them ran poorly so I gave up. I later did some research and tried converting the bin/cue files into .chd format. Now those games run smoothly. No slow down.
The games I tried are
Mega Man X4
Mega Man X5
Castlevania - Symphony of the Night
Vagrant Story
The Raiden Project
I wish I could play Symphony of the night on my 3ds, but I have an old one that probably doesn't run it
@@gerardonavarro3400 Yeah, O3DS won't get you far.
Sorry m8.
We had workable PS1 emulation back in 1999 on PowerPC iMacs with Virtual Game Station and on the Dreamcast with Bleem, and I think the New 3DS has a CPU and video hardware nearly as good as either of them
Honestly, although there was much more work behind it, Virtual Game Station ran supported games far, far better than the 3DS: Nintendo portable consoles have always been underpowered, and although the 3DS was fine back in 2011, it still paled in comparison to the PS Vita (and even the PSP, since it could run most Ps1 games flawlessly). Even a portable console from 2011 should've been way faster than a PPC G3 machine coupled with an Ati Rage.
@@andy5178 The PSP runs Ps1 games pretty much natively, it is NOT 100% emulation. The PSP CPU MIPS R4000 runs the same code as the PS1 CPU MIPS R3000A, the PSP only emulates easier aspects as the sound chip and such. Even then it is not perfect as Gran Turismo 2 and Vagrant Story have fps drops in specific scenarios.
It’s not really that weird. The N64 is infamously difficult to emulate, whereas the PS1 is basically solved.
It translates rather well to the tint screen doesn’t it? 😮
Yeah, the look feels oddly at home on the 3DS!
This is gonna be the way I want to experience Tail Concerto for the first time
my 3ds is about to get a whole new life.
should probably dust it off and deep clean it lmao
My nephew just gave me the new 3DS XL and like 7 games and I am happy with it. Great little handheld.
I wish you could be on my 3ds panel at pax east! subbed and liked!
Sounds like a dream! Would love to join, but unfortunately I'm from Europe :p
Yeah some sounds and frame drops can easily be fixed by some settings
What are the correct settings?
@@jaguar4120 im talking about underclocking, maybe mipmaping, shading, VSync, threads, bios everything possible to make it run better. Depend most of hardware so i cant tell exacly what it is and some times it dont fixes the problem, but what i saw it almost handle the games in brute force, fixes it will be easy
Even more when we talk about ps1 games
@ How do I get into the settings on the 3DS?
Hey so I played Castlevania SOTN and experienced no issues that you are having lol.
The worst I had was a tiny bit of a frame drop, 60 to 40ish at best, whenever a 3D monster showed up (like the bundle of weapons monster).
Was able to complete the whole game with no issues.
It would be really great if you have any ressources on what settings to apply in retroarch to get such perfomrance.. My games run slower with audio glitches etc... cant get it right.
N64 has always been tough to emulate. I remember back in the original Xbox emulator days it was oftentimes not worth the effort.
Given that the N64 was much more powerful than a PS1, why does it surprise you that a handheld that emulate N64 can also emulate the older PS1?
In hindsight, it sounds silly now :p But at the time of making the video it surprised me that the 3DS, a Nintendo console, had more difficulty with the N64, also a Nintendo console, than a non-Nintendo competitor from the same generation.
The problem is all of these emulated games consume battery more than a normal 3ds game. I tried tenchu 2 and it ate my battery like in no time...
People have this weird notion that the PS1 "should" be harder to emulate than the N64, but as a matter of fact, the N64 (93.75 MHz, 125MIPS) can move MORE triangles than the PS1 (33.86 MHz, 30MIPS), it's just that the disc format allowed Sony to put more data (more textures for the models).
I've found that for Tomb Raider it's better to run the game natively on the NN3DS via the OpenLara project
this is really cool but why play the ps1 version of rayman on the 3ds, when it has an official 3DS port lol
PERFORMANCE BOOSTS:
"you will need to enable the following settings.
Optional, or just load the cue file
Compress your game to either CHD or PBP. CHD is the superior solution.
Switch Audio Driver to DSP_Thread. This step is very important. Threaded audio was only added in the past few months and provides a meaningful performance boost. You will need to restart Retroarch to realize this setting change.
Enable Audio Synchronization.
Disable Video Synchronization (unless you are playing a 2D game). You will not notice a negative difference in 3D games.
In Quick Menu -> Options, set CD Access Method to Async. You will need to restart Retroarch to realize this setting change.
In Quick Menu -> Options, set Threaded Rendering to Async. This is extremely important. Threaded Rendering option was only added in the past few weeks.
In Quick Menu -> Options, enable Advance GPU UNAI/PCSX4All Settings.
In Quick Menu -> Options, Enable High-Res Downscaling. This option will only show up once you show Advanced GPU UNAI/PCSX4All Settings and then close and reopen the Quick Menu. M
For good measure you may want to Restart Retroarch after making the last changes."
Nice, thanks! I pinned your comment 🤩
@@smallthoughts_nl Thanks! If you like the boost please make another video 🙏👌
Yes, I was thinking of making one about the best settings. I haven't gotten around to finding them yet, but I will test your setup soon!
Using a bios is good for increasing compatibility with games as well. I have tried a few of these tweaks, but I haven’t tried the video sync option yet. That may help with FF9 and vagrant story a bit. Async rendering already helped quite a bit, but that might make my 3D games run perfectly. Thanks for the list of recommendations.
Edit#1: Also you can use”m3u” files to get multi disk CHD games working. I used to use PBP before I figured this out.
Edit#2: Also, you will want to used “synchronized rendering” (instead of async) for Tekken 3 if you want it to run at 60fps. Most 3D ps1 games did not run at 60fps, but Tekken 3 did. So do that for a smoother experience.
Edit #3: I also found that going into core options -> speed hacks and then assuming the GTE registers are unneeded gives me a nice boost and I have yet to experience rendering errors. I imagine this is different for different games.
Edit #4: also disable the 3D overlay and the bottom screen UI in the settings -> user interface for improved performance and battery life. It’s a neat feature to have the Retroarch menu in 3D, but it’s not worth it. Also, don’t use simple/cubic/Gaussian sound interpolation. Just turn it off. I found that just gives me audio pops unless it’s is a scene with thunder. Simple sometimes fixes the issue if that’s the case.
Going into the audio settings to increase the decibel (volume) level. I found 1.0 to work perfectly well, but the default 0.0 just didn’t do it for me.
Edit #5: Wow, even with these settings, legacy of kain is playable. However, you are going to also need to enable another speed hack. One I have been experimenting with and only causes some games to run too fast. And that would be to disable cpu/gte stalls. This coupled with assuming the GTE registers are unneeded has been working pretty well for me. 3D games seem to benefit the most from this (Spyro, crash, vagrant story, FF9, legacy of Kain, etc.)
Edit #6: use the specific bios called “psxonpsp660” as it apparently improves performance of games.
Pretty cool, but redundant if you have a hacked PSP/Vita :P
I have a Vita and i prefer using 3ds for psx games because of the type of pixels the 3ds is syperior
also have r2 an dl2 buttons, ita dont
I don’t do this seems perfect!
I've played through and finished Suikoden 1 & 2 , Tales of Destiny 2 runs great I'm playing Vanguard Bandits right now and Arc the Lad runs great on the 3DS accept the memory card doesn't work like the original PS1 or the linux-based handheld emulators retroarch does individual saves so you can't load up import the save from the first game when you start second or the second for the Third game, the emulator runs decent considering the new 3ds/2ds is only an 800+ MHz processor and for perfect ps1 emulation you need the processor around 1gig or more
I found suikoden 2 little bit laggy when battling. What is your setting bud
Impressive but a 2020 Android phone with a snapdragon 865 can do this through duckstation with the resolution upscaled to 1080. The reason why I'm saying this is because new 3ds' are more expensive than a 2020 android phones right now.
Considering that the 3DS is powerful enough to run some PS2 era games, it would be really neat if we could get PS1 era games and N64 games working at full speed on the system. Its powerful enough, however the PS1 didn't need to emulate itself to get FF7 working so there's always going to be that need for extra power.
I am a little disappointed the 3DS didn't follow the Square Enix trend for re-releasing Final Fantasy games. We got I&II, IV, V and VI for the GBA, we got a 3d remake of IV and III for the DS, we could have gotten 7, 8 and 9 for the 3DS. A wasted opportunity. So many PSP and PS1 games could have done amazing on the 3DS.
Nah Square Enix just didn't had the interest to port FF5-X on there. At the very least we got Dragon Quest IV-IX.
Oh man, I've been using the wrong PS1 emulator all this time, I guess. Mine runs at like 5 FPS on New 3DS.
This is cool and all but man if you really want to play ps1 games on a handheld get a vita, a modded vita is a beast, better emulation, many homebrew ports, natively runs ps1, psp, and ps vita games, with the vita library including tons of ports of games from the ps2 and ps3, dont get me wrong i love my ds, but if you like this sort of thing i strongly recommend the vita
I would, that is objectively true, but its easier to just get ps1 games on the 3ds I already own and have modded than buy and mod a new console
I was playing harry potter on original hardware recently and it lags in the great hall there too. That room is pushing the hardware really hard, hence no NPCs
tom rider 1 have a full mod on the 3D, where you can pay full resolution, 3D screen and key control.
what settings are you using? I have a new 2ds xl and I'm using CHD files but I'm having performance issues with some games that are said to run flawlessly (mainly Klonoa runs quite poorly). I turned on asynchronous threading but it didn't do much to help.
You can alter the settings to get Klonoa to run at full speed. You just need to turn frameskip to auto and that will fix the audio issues. If you couple that with the comment listing the other optimizations then you are golden.
Edit: I have tested this and Klonoa runs great for me. Very playable.
Installed retroarch the other day, and eventually got it running. I wanted to play Ape escape since it's a nostalgic game for me. It works fine but i noticed that when i run straight ahead, the character only walks, so i have to hold the circle pad slightly to the right or left for him to run properly. Did you notice that? Also when i remap some of the buttons it doesn't save the setting, do i have to remap them everytime? Edit; figured it out, just an input setting or whatever it was. Also saved my button mapping.
rayman 2 has an official port called rayman 3d on the 3ds btw
spyro was in fact NOT running without issues hahahaha, those frame drops were absurd. might be a little too much for the 3ds
Is that a Hugo Black Diamond Fever theme playing in the background?
Yes 😎
@@smallthoughts_nl Nice 😎
I see a real man of culture right here.
Appreciate you answering!
"Can it run PS1 games?"
"Not legally... but yes".
Are you using bin/cue files? I heard if you use PBP or chd files the games run really well. Plus they take up less file space.
I used bin/cue files, indeed. I've heard about chd files as well, perhaps it would run even better 🤔
I have a few pbp files that run flawlessly on new 3DS, which includes Castlevania SOTN 👍
Did you experience any of the issues in the video, or did Castlevania run perfectly?
@@smallthoughts_nl None of the issues in your video. It’s been absolutely perfect so far and I’ve played for approx 1 hour for testing. I was blown away! 😍
Damn, it can really only get better if you find the right setup! Thanks for sharing your experience, I'm curious about trying it myself now 😄
Great video!
What version of RetroArch are you using?
"just like the title suggests metal gear solid indeed has solid performance"🔥🔥🔥
I'm wondering how it should be optimized based on how well they look.
I feel like it’s better to play N64 and PS1 games on the PC than on the 3DS. It’s amazing the 3DS is capable of running them at all and can at least run a few without issues.
isnt the ds and dsi also faster than ps1. but i think you need atleast 3x the power to emulate a console
how about silent hill on the 3ds?
**cries in old 2DS**
There's some weirdness about 3ds ps1 emulation. I've had both a buttery smooth experience with Castlevania and a terrible one. I reverted to an older version of the core and I haven't had problems again. something happened between versions where it is basically garbage tier emulation for some reason. Aka: try different core versions. it could be just enough to make 'that' game of yours playable or a little studdery.
10:42 About the text: Turn on Bilinear filtering.
otherwise the emulation is picking and choosing pixels to put on your screen (since the ps1 is rendering at a higher resolution
but what about PS1 in 3D? I have 10s of devices capable of emulating PS1 - but only one 3D-screen.
Weird, I remember sotn being one of the few games that Acurally run really well.
Didnyou have higher clocks enabled?
oh boy, i can't wait to replay crash 1 on another console :^)
CTR gave you problems cause the PAL version has libcrypt, it crashes cause of anti-piracy, you'd need to patch it
I lost my patience with N3DSXL ps1 emulation and ended up buying a near mint Vita 2k for $140. No more dropped frames or emulation bugs.
3DS experience: FF7 effects lag for big boss battles. BOF4 huge frame drops while naving towns. CnC random lock ups followed by frame drops. In the end, I couldn't settle for the market terminology "playable" as that term is relative.
For ps1 emulation, the Vita or PSP is the best mobile experience.
I'm just here to say (haven't even watched yet) that I got Metal Gear Solid & Digimon World running (decently) on a New 3DS XL. Don't let your dreams be dreams kids
Do you mind sharing how you got Metal Gear working on the New 3DS XL? I have only been able to get Snake Eater, and have not been able to find how to get the one in this video.
Funny; if you play this video at 1.25 playback speed, he talks at normal speed XD
Lol I like the way he talk
Is it better than the Wii emulator version
GT2 is probably running out of memory and having to constantly swap data in and out of memory in those tracks because there's too much on screen at once.
I assume essentially none of this applies for old editions, right?
I've read of people who managed to get some 2D games to run on it, so it’s not impossible. But other than that, most PS1 games are likely unplayble on the old 3DS.
What black magic are you using? I tried this like 5 days ago and gran turismo ran at a buttery smooth 5 frames per second, with terrible audio to boot. I am also using a new 3ds xl
Did you use the emulator from RetroArch or just a CIA file?
@@smallthoughts_nl I used retro arch, and I turned on asynchronous threading and that fixed it. Gran turismo runs at a locked 30 frames. Thanks for your help!
3ds or only new 3ds?
Hi I have a question I'm playing a game for ps1 on my 3DS and i need more then one save . Is there anyway to mimic a memory card with an app and if so please help me ? Thank you .
just remember, use CHD files for best speed!
Ah. Emulation. I totally didn't think of that, I used a process involving a PSone to EBOOT converter and a PSone forwarder to inject'em directly, like with any not-really-Virtual-Console thing. The drawback to that is that they're HUGE, easily up into the 1-3GB size range like 3DS games.
My goodness, 1-3 GB is massive for a PS1 game on the 3ds. My largest game by far is FFIX and it takes up 1.5 GB. The forwarder seems nice, but it’s not the best if you value performance. It’s based on an outdated version of the emulator. Also, compress your games into CHD or PBP. Preferably CHD for superior file compression.
PS. FFIX runs really well if you optimize your settings right.
does this emulator support stereoscopic 3D for any of these games?
No
@@connor9568 oh well, that's a shame but not surprising
Isn’t there a circle pad you can get and add to a 3DS to make it have two joy sticks?
Only on the old 3ds/xl models.
i played ps1 games on my 3ds for a good year until i got a secondary retro handheld like the ayn odin pro, it was fun but the constant crashes especially the 3d games annoyed the hell out of me. dr slump ran very good. some games just didn't work at all, some nightly releases of the pcsx rearmed while it fix compatibility with some games i wanted to play, it broke it for the games i already found working in my folder that i already had save progress with.
surprising that it seems so difficult to emulate these games. Even the Dreamcast and PSP handily emulated PS1 games. Had a basic laptop from 2012 that emulated Kingdom Hearts 1 in HD no less
I wish there was just a bigger screen handheld like the miyoo mini + to run ps1 games it would really be perfect
Can the original GTA's run? I haven't really seen anything abt GTA or GTA 2 on it, is it bcs it can't run them?
Nope, it can run them. I guess no one has covered that in a video yet. According to the compatibility list, GTA 1 runs at a slightly slower pace, while GTA 2 runs great
Does anyone know if I could emulate of a flashcard I have a-z flash parallel card
How can i remap the buttons for ape escape? It lets me remap everything but the Thumb buttons.. :/
yeah some games are playable and it was pretty fun to mess around and see what'd work, but I eventually got a vita and I just play ps1 games on that
Can a new PS2 with the additional circle made for kid Icarus?
HOW do I set up RetroArch to play FF7!?
Should p;ut a disclaimer that this type of performance is only for new 3ds/new 2ds models. The 1st gen 2ds/3ds play PS1 poorly
does not seem very smooth to me anyway i'm just looking for a bigger screen miyoo mini +
To run PlayStation 1 games you need a quad core model, distinguished by the control nub on the right. The dual core 3DS lacks the control nub and the power needed to run PSX games. Dino Crisis 2 is a good game to start with.
is the 3D screen can be used in this emulator ?
where do you get the cia of this emu at?
I'm confused, you say they can run on "your 3ds" which makes me believe ANY 3ds should work, but then you go on to say you ran it on a more powerful new 3ds. So can an old 3ds (xl) run these games or not?
how about the L2 and R2 functions?
new 3ds xl has a second stick and l2 and r2 buttons
How to play this? I istalled retroarch , i download file ISO game but dont run...i convert file in cue bin but It Say error... Please help me
It can do bin/cue, but I reccomend CHD format. The 3ds retroarch app CANNOT do ISO.
7:30 PS1 EU versions of games often have additional anti piracy protection Libcrypt, to play these in a emulator you need extra files with the game for them to work properly.
im getting "failed to load content" in a bunch of these games. but not all. any idea what could be causing it? ive tried .cue and .chd and it happens on both.
you might need a .cue and a .bin file its like that for the wii though so idk
Title doesn't specify the specific model 😒
While Rayman 2: Great Escape is a nice "proof of concept", the actual game is is silky smooth on 3DS in its retail 3DS version. You probably showed to many people what to expect from 3D games of this sort, however, the game itself is already available on 3DS.
Yeah. For some reason N64 is infinitely harder to emulate than PS1 for some reason even though it seems like it would be the opposite.
Why is that? The N64 is less powerful than the PS1?
I Played Austin powers Pinball and it was Groovy Baby'
How to play ps games? I have file ISO , how ti convert?
I started a Gran Turismo 2 race on the 3DS emulator and another on Duckstation at exactly the same time.
While the Duckstation race clocked in at 20 seconds on the 3DS, barely 17 had passed 😂
Now just for all 3DS or is it for the new 3DS? What about 2DS?!
But can it play the legend of dragoon? 😮
I saw someone operate tekken 1 on his n3ds. Anyone know how to get it to work?
Turn on cc in 6:24 and he says nintendo
does 3d effect do anything to these games?