I MAX OUT The Maverick, Santa Cruz & Ridgeline, But Which One Wins The World's Toughest Towing Test?

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    The Honda Ridgeline is no longer the only crossover-based pickup on the scene - now we have the Hyundai Santa Cruz and Ford Maverick as well! But which one is best on the Ike Gauntlet, the World's Toughest Towing Test? Let's find out!
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    TIMESTAMPS:
    0:00 Intro
    0:39 Honda Ridgeline - Downhill
    7:01 Honda Ridgeline - Uphill
    10:52 Hyundai Santa Cruz - Downhill
    15:52 Hyundai Santa Cruz - Uphill
    19:52 Ford Maverick - Downhill
    25:03 Ford Maverick - Uphill
    28:01 Results & Verdict
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  • @TFLtruck
    @TFLtruck  2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

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    • @Ornelas11B
      @Ornelas11B 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When you said Tommy’s gem was worth 4,000 pounds were you talking money?

    • @jaredtown8947
      @jaredtown8947 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your intro music is the same as Off the Ranch by Matt Carriker (may have misspelled that)

    • @brennalynnn
      @brennalynnn ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought u said up to .70?

    • @tritchie6272
      @tritchie6272 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ornelas11B I believe they were talking weight.

  • @C-Henry
    @C-Henry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +385

    Can we just give these guys a round of applause for the having most unique payload ever for a tow/haul test?

    • @miamisasquatch
      @miamisasquatch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I laughed as soon as I saw the 2CV! Took me back to my childhood playing Need for Speed 2.

    • @richardhouvener6423
      @richardhouvener6423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@miamisasquatch I drove one in France in the 60s. It was a blast!

    • @mistert1097
      @mistert1097 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardhouvener6423 are you referring to the 60’s

    • @jeffreyblanton9877
      @jeffreyblanton9877 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I would like to see these same vehicles towing 5 years from now. My money is on the Honda.

  • @nilsjohansson9739
    @nilsjohansson9739 2 ปีที่แล้ว +249

    Regardless of the vehicle towing it, that's probably the fastest the Citroen has ever gone!

    • @Dirtyharry70585
      @Dirtyharry70585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      and longest without a break down.

    • @jamesd6801
      @jamesd6801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At least in the mountains!

    • @TheHelado36
      @TheHelado36 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Still a better car than the others ! 😁

    • @abee3515
      @abee3515 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      geneally in a 2cv but they build some others...

    • @Peter-cj2ml
      @Peter-cj2ml ปีที่แล้ว

      lol

  • @michaelwalus2154
    @michaelwalus2154 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Just FYI, on the sound test in the Maverick you guys had the sun roof curtain open. The other trucks were closed That will affect the sound level in a vehicle.

  • @racinglightning01
    @racinglightning01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    It's a really great comparison. Although the Ridgeline is a little larger than the other two, they're really catered to the same sort of customer. The person that doesn't necessarily want a truck, but wants more utility than a SUV.

    • @markspence3750
      @markspence3750 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      EXACTLY!

    • @mikenormandy9250
      @mikenormandy9250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      The Ridgeline is DEF a mid-size truck. Much more than the other two are Trucks....The Ridgeline is probably more truck than MOST truck people need! Just bc it's not a Body On Frame vehicle....It gets so much shit, when most truck people crawl the mall or get groceries.... The Ridgeline can do practically everything a mid-size truck can do.....And I have to say, It is the most comfortable ride in its' class. The Lockable Trunk in the truck bed IS A GAME CHANGER...My Father's 2006 Ridgeline, the first model year ever made, is more comfortable of a ride then my 2020 Toyota Tacoma SR5 V6 4X4.....

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@mikenormandy9250 The Ridgeline FWD is a class 1 truck together with Tacoma, Ranger etc. and the Ridgeline AWD actually falls into class 2a together with F-150!

    • @mikenormandy9250
      @mikenormandy9250 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Ummm.No the Ridgeline is a mid-size truck...NOT a half ton or Full-size...And How would a FWD Ridgeline compare to a 4X4 Tacoma???
      Ridgeline AWD competes with the 4x4 Ranger and Tacoma...You have some things backwards...LOL

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@mikenormandy9250 It's considered a half-ton as the GVM is 6019 lbs. Half-tons are from 6001-8000 lbs GVM. The Tacoma has a GVM of only 5600 lbs. Weird how low that is. The Hilux has a GVM of 6725 lbs.

  • @macgybel7951
    @macgybel7951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Well, the real winner of the World’s Towing Contest is TFL - your videos are the only ones that manage to pull me out of bed every day… true story! ;-)

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you for watching and your kind words!

    • @markspence3750
      @markspence3750 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      WORD!

    • @williammiller9813
      @williammiller9813 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not a fan of fan people just gotta go with the info

  • @Kristian_Saile
    @Kristian_Saile 2 ปีที่แล้ว +169

    The Maverick in XLT trim with the 4K package would Gabe performed the same and been done in sub 30k which I feel makes it so much more of a better value. Seems like the lower trim level Mavericks are the sweet spot and where it really excels as a value proposition. A high 30k Maverick kind of defeats the purpose?

    • @animetodamaximum
      @animetodamaximum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I agree, mine was 31 and it is rather loaded from what I can see. XLT FX4 w Lux. I do not see an FX4 badge on that "maxed out" Maverick either so that leads me to believe it has standard all season tires on it.

    • @christopherhamilton5557
      @christopherhamilton5557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I agree, at that price, I would get a Ranger. Maybe? Car market is freakin whack right now.

    • @animetodamaximum
      @animetodamaximum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@christopherhamilton5557 I wanted to get something used but every car was such bad value used. So I ordered one waited and picked it up at MSRP. 31 isn’t bad for a new car let alone a truck/crossover but 37 is in big bronco territory.

    • @jakes5530
      @jakes5530 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Nah fully loaded the Maverick is $37k, to get similar tech and interior features in the Ranger, you’d be looking at $45k. Apples to oranges… the Maverick is still significantly cheaper when similarly equipped.

    • @TheRanscat
      @TheRanscat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I got mine with xl 4k towing awd 2.0 spray in bedliner Ford copilot 360 (includes power side mirrors for the xl) "full size" spare rear window and two USB ports and 120v outlet in the back seat for 27k I could have saved a good 1.5k if I saved on options.

  • @nismomike3182
    @nismomike3182 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    "That VTEC kicked in yo!"

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oh yea!

  • @BigGroupHug
    @BigGroupHug 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    It boggles my mind that y'all don't use a OBD data logger to make sure you get the same data regardless of guage cluster style.
    Also get to see "power demand" according to the ECM among other figures.
    Put it on a tablet, you can export rhe video from the tablet as an overlay.

    • @ocrapo9327
      @ocrapo9327 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tell me your car backfires without telling me.

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Andre, This truly is a world first for TFL. Yes, this is the first time in world history the Ridgeline has been called a 'benchmark'.

    • @beartankoperator7950
      @beartankoperator7950 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ha that was good

    • @JoseVargas-mn1ek
      @JoseVargas-mn1ek 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Honda v6 plus 9 speed is a tried and true drievtrain. Sounds like a benchmark to me.

  • @shitloveaduck
    @shitloveaduck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey Andrey!!!! Very nice having Nathan do all the work with the phone for timing, and testing the audio himself as well. VERY good change!! I really was waiting for this video!!! The results were mostly as expected. The Santa Cruz was definitely a surprise as quiet as it was!!!

  • @Parker53151
    @Parker53151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Towing a 2CV on a trailer is a stroke of genius. Well done, gentlemen.

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Who would have thought that you can tow a car with a compact pickup truck!

  • @davidkutschke54
    @davidkutschke54 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    15:16 nice to see a big empty pick up truck doing 70+ mph in a construction zone probably upset that this little Santa Cruz is doing more truck stuff than it.

  • @andrewsbbq
    @andrewsbbq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Sport mode is likely what should be used when towing with the Ridgeline and Santa Cruz. Holds gears, firmer shifts, if it has any active aero it likely disables it.

    • @eastonreid
      @eastonreid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      we have a 2016 pilot and when we tow with it sport mode is what we use and it behaves similarly to a tow/haul mode

  • @dantheman4life
    @dantheman4life 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    You guys always come through for us. Thanks for all you do and have a happy holiday guys!

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for watching and the kind words! Happy Holidays!

    • @freedomisntfree_44
      @freedomisntfree_44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Merry Christmas

  • @saltyspades7493
    @saltyspades7493 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this hill is definitely a good test. can't wait to see the winter tests when the snow drops!

  • @andrewwhite1305
    @andrewwhite1305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I love the wing mirror cams that become visible when the turn signal is activated, on that Santa Cruz

    • @christopherhamilton5557
      @christopherhamilton5557 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey that really was pretty cool! Nice touch!

    • @desertfresh3740
      @desertfresh3740 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've driven cars with this and *despise* them. But to each their own.

  • @nemavezee
    @nemavezee 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Ridgeline would toe much better with transmission in sport mode. Would like to see if that helps.

  • @shitloveaduck
    @shitloveaduck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thanks Nathan!! “Little Trucks or Little Pickups. Perfect!! Hahaha. I’m a rigid person sometimes, sorry about the crappy comments. They are little of a unique class of course. Little trucks!! I have one now!! A 2.0 AWD XLT with basically every option including the tow package, FX4, Sunroof, Luxury package, even the hard folding tonneau cover. It is quite impressive for a little truck. You would never be able to pull 4,000 lbs at 70+ mph in hilly terrain with the previous little trucks. I have towed just over 3600 lbs in 50 mph winds and hilly terrain (foothills of the mountains here in Alberta) and am impressed! I had a Ridgeline and wanted smaller still for when I go to the city, mostly because I can. I traded the Ridgeline I bought for $53,000 CAD before tax, I received a cheque for $11,000 CAD and a Maverick! Since the Ridgeline was already tax paid,mi didn’t have to pay taxes on the new truck!! Bonus! I loved the comfort of the Ridgeline, but am surprised by the comfort of the Maverick!! The Ridgeline is definitely better in almost every single aspect, of course, but I’m very happy with the Maverick. The Ridgeline’s biggest issue is the very high torque band. It’s definitely a nice truck though. Mine was levelled and riding on slightly larger and much more aggressive Falcons on the truck. It looked pretty nice! I will leave the Maverick stock.

  • @EGGINFOOLS
    @EGGINFOOLS 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Santa cruz also had the camera mirrors for the turn signals. I liked that.

    • @palebeachbum
      @palebeachbum 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah that Santa Cruz costs more because you're getting more. It's a more premium vehicle than the Maverick. More features, better seats, better ride.

  • @crimsonzorro
    @crimsonzorro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the Great Content!
    Nathan crushed that Sinclair Ad Read! Nice job dude.

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Oh yea!

  • @dean_carries5940
    @dean_carries5940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    "V-tech kicked in yo!!" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

  • @aaronbehindbars
    @aaronbehindbars 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    The Ridgeline would have held it's speed better down the mountain in S mode. I'd say it went pretty well for having no turbos which puts it at a bigger disadvantage at high elevation.

    • @zerog2000
      @zerog2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I tow a 4400 lb travel trailer with a 2020 Ridgeline and it does tow better in S, especially in hilly areas. S mode wants to hold shifts longer which is better for up & down grades.

    • @aaronchristianson
      @aaronchristianson ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I tow a 28 foot camper that’s at the Ridgeline’s max rating. I turn off eco mode and drive in Sport mode. No issues.

    • @christianbenedict5136
      @christianbenedict5136 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree

    • @zhencaizan6663
      @zhencaizan6663 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      中文翻译

    • @georgea6403
      @georgea6403 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@zerog2000do you use eco when on level roads?

  • @smokeyj3983
    @smokeyj3983 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The video I've been waiting for. I wanted to see how the Maverick handled ike. Thanks guys.

  • @marks6072
    @marks6072 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like the way you guys are not afraid to stir-fry a few transmissions during your road tests!!!

  • @Whalerguy
    @Whalerguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I finally got my Maverick in and I have to say so far I'm very happy with it. I haven't had a chance to tow with it yet but having the brake controller built in makes a huge difference IMHO as you don't have something bolted to the dash every day for the times you want to tow. I absolutely love the placement of the receiver as well that is worth a lot to me.

    • @joeypts
      @joeypts 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thinking of getting one myself. Can I ask if you still like it and if you’d recommend?

    • @Whalerguy
      @Whalerguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joeypts I do. We have both a gas and hybrid and both are excellent. The hybrid gets crazy good mileage.

    • @stephenzerfas5307
      @stephenzerfas5307 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I totally agree on the TBC. Having the hitch from the factory, also great. Less brake applications are going to reduce heat and wear. Saving over $4k is a lot to me. Tow/haul mode. Enjoy your Maverick.

  • @sergiosolis4538
    @sergiosolis4538 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    For years the Ridgeline has been criticized for not being a "real truck" right along with the El Camino and the Ranchero. The question will be if the Santa Cruz and the Maverick will share in the criticism, since they're comparing themselves to the Ridgeline? Keep up the great work guys. 👍

    • @marklion315
      @marklion315 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @J. Dns Ridgeline was always marketed as mid size, it competes well against Tacoma trim for trim on road ofcourse.

    • @plmn93
      @plmn93 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The Maverick is what people expect in a unibody truck. Cheap, economical, and still looks like a truck. That's why it's been so successful while the Ridgeline has been a sales dud for nearly 20 years now.

  • @ianberry5562
    @ianberry5562 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this no bs data driven review process!

  • @michaelcrouch4248
    @michaelcrouch4248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great reviews, and the only place where I enjoy the commercials, specifically the ones the TFL guys do 👍. Companies are missing the boat if they don’t use you guys to do commercials for them.

  • @NatesHomeTours
    @NatesHomeTours 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    27:36 That Maverick is almost overheated. That is not good. If you would have had to go any farther I think you would be pulling over to cool off.

    • @billchesney8949
      @billchesney8949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree

    • @ocrapo9327
      @ocrapo9327 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow dude I don't know what video you watched or mechanic you listened to.
      The gauge shows the temp being in the middle or 1 notch over to warm. As long as you're not in the red there is no need to stop. If youre in the white you're in the normal.

    • @ocrapo9327
      @ocrapo9327 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@billchesney8949 I don't agree

    • @NatesHomeTours
      @NatesHomeTours 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ocrapo9327 Looking at it more closely I missed the bars at the top. I only saw the line at the bottom

    • @billchesney8949
      @billchesney8949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ocrapo9327 One more bar and it would be in the red

  • @MrFordguy73
    @MrFordguy73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Been watching your Ike Gauntlet challenges for a while, I think you should time the acceleration from 35 to 60, that way it would be more objective as far as the acceleration goes

  • @waynekorzan2496
    @waynekorzan2496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! I am so glad to be able to watch your video's again. The Tommy ones forced me to find other sources for content. Thank you so much for taking him off the channel. Thanks again I love your stuff. I believe i will re subscribe. 😀

  • @westtrumpet7
    @westtrumpet7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you guys should do an classic compact truck towing test! that would be sweet!! like 80s, 90s, and 00's compact pickups! :)

  • @chiemekaa
    @chiemekaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm looking forward to the R1T on the Ike to see if it lives up to the towing hype.

  • @x_ghost_x6612
    @x_ghost_x6612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Test drove the Santa Cruz and i fell in love with it. This was an awesome test and I encourage anyone interested
    in any of these two vehicles to drive the Santa Cruz.

    • @W_T.F
      @W_T.F 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Santa Cruz is definitely the most comfortable car I've ever driven.

  • @freedomisntfree_44
    @freedomisntfree_44 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video once again🤙🏽Merry Christmas

  • @jaydoingstuffandthings6635
    @jaydoingstuffandthings6635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just picked my 2022 Maverick up, XLT with FX4 package and towing package for 27k and I LOVE IT! 32 mpg on the highway as well.

  • @brad3139
    @brad3139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    16:17 those blinker gauges on the Santa Cruz are really clever!

  • @gotchagoing8843
    @gotchagoing8843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I love the Nathan and Andre show...always full of good info, and some good humor to boot. My pick is the Maverick-hands down. If I wanted a 'car like' ride, I would have owned a car. But I love trucks, and I am waiting on a build date for MY Maverick Lariat/max tow/FX4. AND, it's the same color as the test vehicle, Red Hot Pepper. Hell yeah...thank you tfl.

    • @bechtoea
      @bechtoea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I understand your point but what I am curious about is, if the truck like ride and feel is what you are after, are you really the customer for the Maverick, or are you going to go get a Ranger anyway?

    • @billchesney8949
      @billchesney8949 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Better ask for an extra radiator to keep it cool

    • @boatdesigner12
      @boatdesigner12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I own a Mexican Ford, never again. Remember, you vote with your wallet. So don't blame the politicians because you're the problem like i was. Only American made for me from now on. Hyundai or Honda. Screw Ford.

    • @andrewb1064
      @andrewb1064 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bechtoea right, I really don't understand the Maverick's appeal but apparently I am in the minority...

    • @gotchagoing8843
      @gotchagoing8843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@bechtoea I have a 2019 Lariat/FX4/max tow. For the past year, it has become increasingly difficult to get in and out of it. I have a spine that is held together with titanium rods, bolts/plates etc, and I have Parkinson's. I have driven the Maverick FX4, and found it to be easy for me to get in and out of, it's comfortable for me. So I ordered a Maverick/Lariat/Lariat lux pkg/max tow/FX4 back in October. Waiting on a build date now...

  • @fubarmedic4222
    @fubarmedic4222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you will see more of these compact/midsize unibody trucks. More folks want one of these trucks for the bed for DIY reasons but want the space, fuel economy and ride of an suv.
    Imagine how much more huge the “truck” market will get if you had a choice between payload and ride vs off road and towing. 5k towing and 1500+ lbs of payload with an suv ride would be enough for 6/10 truck buyers. And the solid axle body on frame 4x4 would satisfy 4/10 needs. Perfect combo.

  • @kennithandirsen7184
    @kennithandirsen7184 ปีที่แล้ว

    You guys rock! Very thorough and informative! Thanks!

  • @DavidPopowich
    @DavidPopowich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Love my 2017 Ridgeline! Great ride, good towing and cargo capacity. Ticks all the boxes for me. And much roomier than the other two.

  • @syazwanchawan8779
    @syazwanchawan8779 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That Ridgeline looks so sick!

  • @thekat9593
    @thekat9593 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The “manscape” (elbow room) in the Ridgeline is a big advantage if you don’t like rubbing with each other bumping along the road of life.🎉🎉😂❤

  • @jerryroberts7280
    @jerryroberts7280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video guys. Thanks for the test.

  • @fokuz02
    @fokuz02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm still here happy I made my 2021 Ridgeline purchase. If I had to choose between these three, I would still choose my regular gas drinking J35 RL.

    • @lutomson3496
      @lutomson3496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That engine will last the longest also

    • @jayw900
      @jayw900 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The maverick can also use 87

    • @rcr-zt4of
      @rcr-zt4of 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I bought a Ridgeline but the Santa Cruz and Maverick both use 87.

  • @Gene1969
    @Gene1969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Great review guys! Both pickups are wonderful. It's going to boil down to personality. Which do you prefer? I pick the Maverick because its more truck like.

    • @ianberry5562
      @ianberry5562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I’ve heard the Maverick described as a car like truck and the Santa Cruz as a truck like car couldn’t agree more.

    • @WhoThisGuy515
      @WhoThisGuy515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I wouldn't mind a Maverick but i'd put a lot of highway miles on it so comfort is a big one for me. But I have a 3/4 Ford for truck stuff so I'd have a Cruz over the Maverick, plus i do like the styling of the Cruz more.

    • @robertsn6584
      @robertsn6584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      More truck like ??? You know the hyundai can tow 1000 pounds more right ???

    • @Gene1969
      @Gene1969 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@robertsn6584 I was speaking about their personalities.

    • @tri3pleagent
      @tri3pleagent 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@robertsn6584 yet it doesn't come with brake controllers from the factory 🧐

  • @lanceripplinger8352
    @lanceripplinger8352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Merry Christmas TFL crew!

  • @JohnConnor636
    @JohnConnor636 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    That Ford was getting pretty hot near the end.

  • @lllateralus
    @lllateralus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    27:37 that Maverick coolant temp bumped up ANOTHER mark.. and was very close to the red. Cmoooon. That sucks.

    • @diegovn
      @diegovn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      THAT!

    • @drewthompson7457
      @drewthompson7457 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And the 4K yow package includes extra engine and transmission cooling...

  • @cesarpalmos8235
    @cesarpalmos8235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Id take the ford (not that trim) because you can get the XLT with Fx4, 4k tow package, Turbo 2.0L Ecoboost with a Sunroof and gets better MPG (unloaded) than the Santa Cruz for $29,279. That's how I optioned mine.

    • @jammcguire1276
      @jammcguire1276 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Where are u getting them for that price?

    • @cesarpalmos8235
      @cesarpalmos8235 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jammcguire1276 You can't get that price anymore. The same truck today is 34k. That price was at the launch of the Maverick, when the base model was $19,995. I regret not going through with my order. The dealerships are still marking up these trucks.

  • @jasonpaiva4793
    @jasonpaiva4793 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well done 👏,
    The Honda Ridgeline was my first choice for a new vehicle but it doesn't have a Dedicated 2 speed transfer case. waiting on a 22 Tacoma TRD Off-Road

    • @Utubesuperstar
      @Utubesuperstar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Buy a ranger it’s better than both

  • @Ammondude
    @Ammondude 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another great TFL video!
    I've really enjoyed the Maverick content!

  • @njhampster
    @njhampster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I like the Maverick but it's obvious the real winner here is the Honda Ridgeline. Larger, more powerful, and comparable in price.

  • @mcrn12
    @mcrn12 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The temp rising like that on the Maverick is concerning.

    • @zacharyzoeller5214
      @zacharyzoeller5214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah right before it cut away at 27:37 it's close to Hot, note the outside temperature is 46F. If you are close to max towing on a hot day in the mountains I'd be worried.

    • @NWI_Steel
      @NWI_Steel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I did not see that. Good catch!

    • @robertsn6584
      @robertsn6584 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Keep in mind it was only 40 degrees. Summer. It would of been real interesting

    • @EmotionalTree
      @EmotionalTree ปีที่แล้ว

      Or it is more honest than the other 2. They didn't have obd readings to confirm. I've had my own car read 225-230f going through Arizona at 110f but the gauge didn't move.

  • @F4izzle
    @F4izzle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I regularly tow my 88 4Runner on a 16ft steel deck trailer with my 2020 Ridgeline and it does great.

  • @Eddie211979
    @Eddie211979 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video. You guys should do an old vs new ike gauntlet. test older trucks from the early 2000 and late 90's to see how they compare to the new trucks

  • @03centgt_
    @03centgt_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I’d like to see these two get tested in the summer time when it’s hot. It appeared to me like the maverick got really close to getting hot right before the end of the hill. In 45’ weather it makes you wonder if it can really pull 4K pounds up a steep grade like the Ike. Love the videos guys. Keep up the great work!

    • @jakes5530
      @jakes5530 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Good point, I’d be interested to see that too

    • @awesomearizona-dino
      @awesomearizona-dino 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Good point Jorge, i think both will run hot towing in summer, AND will make far less power as well. My 2.3 Ranger makes great power in cool weather, in 105 degrees, i have to use 3/4 throttle much of the time.

    • @Whalerguy
      @Whalerguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I bet both run hot being boosted engines but I know the Mav is at the edge in cooling capacity as the tuners are having to swap out for a bigger intercooler to get any meaningful gains.

    • @TWX1138
      @TWX1138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I'd also like to see transmission temperature monitoried. It's one thing to tow once, but it's quite another if the transmission's life is significantly shortened or if it requires significantly more regular service.
      It may be possible to monitor it with a sufficiently advanced CANBUS device, if the codes are known and the device can interpret. Otherwise it might require putting a sensor in place of a plug on the side of the transmission itself and recording the data the old fashioned way.

    • @TurboAdam
      @TurboAdam 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ford recommended de-rating the towing on the F-150 due to the high altitude, did they recommend the same on the Maverick?

  • @chrismatheny4957
    @chrismatheny4957 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Nice video comparing two of the hottest vehicles on the market right now. I have a question regarding the Santa Cruz. With the self leveling rear shocks, do you all drive around a bit to give the shocks a chance to level out or do you take your measurements for squat as soon as you hook up the trailer? I thought you had to drive a bit to give the self leveling shocks a chance to level out.
    I'm really looking forward to you getting to test a Santa Cruz model with the naturally aspirated 2.5 engine.

  • @bertito43
    @bertito43 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome comparison! Can you guys do the same but with the base models?

  • @jolenebarrow1450
    @jolenebarrow1450 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you! I bought my 23 Santa Cruz to tow my Jayco and this video proved I made the right decision!

  • @vtsean5840
    @vtsean5840 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you Andre and Nathan! I have been waiting for this and I think the Ridgeline was exactly the right comparison truck. The Santa Cruz and Maverick are basically giving us a vehicle in the same vein as the G1 Ridgeline Honda introduced in 2006. Except this time, lots of people are interested in this kind of vehicle. I agree with Nathan's call and I think the Hyundai's 1000 lbs. of extra capacity is important. I need 4500 lbs. towing myself so that 5K limit is key. Do you have any observations on how stable each truck felt (with the trailer) in normal driving?

    • @ocrapo9327
      @ocrapo9327 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd get a bigger truck if you're towing the max all the time.

    • @vtsean5840
      @vtsean5840 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ocrapo9327Towing all the time, I agree and I've had bigger trucks for that. But the 5000 lb. limit is great for bringing the right size boat back and forth to its seasonal mooring.

  • @AlexLepoutre
    @AlexLepoutre 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Great video! I love these sorts of comparisons.
    I do wonder if the Cruz would’ve performed even better, both uphill and downhill, if it was kept in Sport mode instead of Smart mode. I’ve noticed Sport keeps the revs hanging higher and longer, which really help with engine brake and torque when towing my camper.
    Also, was the squat measurement on the Cruz done before or after the self-leveling suspension had time to do its thing?

  • @jpaulparker
    @jpaulparker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful comparison test. Well done guys.

  • @Austin-iq7ds
    @Austin-iq7ds 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Very interesting the Maverick was pretty close it seems to getting a coolant overtemp warning/derating the power. If it’s 80 degrees, I see it getting to that zone…

    • @0HOON0
      @0HOON0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Colorado had some scorching hot weather early in the summer last year.
      The Maverick would have overheated.

    • @isaac198428
      @isaac198428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes the Maverick would definitely overheat in the Summer and having a turbo charger doesn't help. It's funny how they made a towing option yet very limited on what it can actually tow without getting all heated up.

  • @herewegoagain7403
    @herewegoagain7403 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    27:37 wow the Maverick is getting a lot of heat soak. look at the coolant temp skyrocket... and require premium fuel? Santa Cruz def won

    • @ShersGarage
      @ShersGarage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Maverick does not require premium fuel. You can use it for more power.

    • @hakkai153
      @hakkai153 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm all for the Maverick but I did notice that it started to heat up at the end there.

    • @oogleboogle123456789
      @oogleboogle123456789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      just curious but did the other two even have a gage to look at the temp with?

    • @kacyharper8142
      @kacyharper8142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      oogleboogle yes they did, both managed to stay below half way.

    • @W_T.F
      @W_T.F 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ShersGarage Read the manual for the Maverick. It recommends premium for towing heavy loads. It also warns you to listen for engine knock if using regular, which is just a way of saying it was designed for premium.

  • @sicilianr1
    @sicilianr1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Already have a 7.3 so went with the Santa Cruz and so far I love it. Trans takes a bit to get used too, but for day to day driving when I don’t need to haul a skid steer or heavier… great little comfy truck. On the highway with cruise I get around 32-33mpg with it so I can’t complain to much over the 15-16 I get in the 7.3. I do think the limited model should have power folding mirrors, power passenger seat and memory seats too. Aside from that… throw an intake on and whoosh whoosh all the way home. 🤣😂

    • @Bob-tn2yz
      @Bob-tn2yz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No power passenger seat on the limited kinda blows my mind

  • @willywonka521
    @willywonka521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd like to see ALOT more testing with base xl & xlt mavericks please

  • @alexsharek6788
    @alexsharek6788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you guys do SUV tow tests also, it would be great to know how well some SUVs will perform Like Pilot and GX along with anything that comes with a factory hitch.

  • @ChadHargis
    @ChadHargis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    The Ridgeline is wired for a brake controller. The wiring harness is included from the factory in the glove compartment. It's a simple hook up to any standard brake controller. Then you simply plug it into the connector found under the dash by the parking brake.

    • @markgosser9578
      @markgosser9578 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I want a stock brake controller and Ford has the best when it comes to towing. Honda knows zero when it comes to towing! Correct me if I’m wrong.

    • @specialopsdave
      @specialopsdave 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@markgosser9578 They know enough to tow 4K pounds, at least

    • @doubled8247
      @doubled8247 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@markgosser9578 Honda actually knows a lot about towing. It can actually tow what it says it can even with passengers. The owners manual is the only one that breaks down what you can tow with how much cargo and people in truck and Honda knows that 5,000 lbs towing at 13% tongue weight is 650lbs so that’s what their hitch is rated at.

    • @csh000
      @csh000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@doubled8247 finding tongue weight above 10% the towing rating is getting harder to find.
      10%-15% is the recommended tongue weight of travel trailers.

    • @zerog2000
      @zerog2000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@doubled8247 not sure where you got 650
      Ridgeline has Class 3 hitch, which is 600/6000
      Payload is around 1500 depending upon trim level, so unless you are limited by payload because you have loaded the cab and/or bed, 600 is supposed to be your max tongue. I tow a 4400 lb travel trailer with about 12-13 % tongue weight and it handles well, but putting any more on it would push it over limits. Yes it could handle more, but I won’t because I’d be cutting into my safety margins, which isn’t wise. (I have also looked at Both front & rear GAWR, and total GCVWR by pulling the rig over scales, which anyone getting close to max payload and/or tow rating should be doing. Supposedly Andre is CDL so he knows better.
      A bit surprised TFL team doesn’t actually do this, or capture actual metrics from OBD as others have mentioned. It’s just some light fun testing they are doing. Nothing scientific or objective here.

  • @jg8263
    @jg8263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You guys know the Honda has a plug under the dash for a normal aftermarket brake controller, and includes a wiring harness and fuse for that in the glove box. Just saying, you took the roundabout solution.

  • @coltallman854
    @coltallman854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I've never requested anything.. I think something we all would love to see would you to floor it on the steepest part to see what the vehicle has left in it. Since the Honda was all out.. what about the Santa Cruz. And Maverick. I'm just getting to the Maverick part in this video. BUT would LOVE to see a small section of what the vehicle had left in it to give around the steeper part!

  • @owendodman3037
    @owendodman3037 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best fuel ads I've seen haha, thanks nate

  • @douglasmartin5253
    @douglasmartin5253 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I feel like these cars are like the apple/android battle. It comes down to personal preference. You said best at the end and it’s exactly what I’ve been saying. Do you want something that is more like a car or a truck? Great review.

  • @miaatch1
    @miaatch1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    the maverick bumped up one more temp right after you said that. it was only 1 tick away from the red zone. That motor was working HARD!!!

  • @rene7636
    @rene7636 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good test! Thanks guys.

  • @anthonycastillo7625
    @anthonycastillo7625 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks I have a 23 Santa Cruz and getting ready to tow a lightweight camper. I was curious about the performance before I had to get used to it in the road

  • @marky1b
    @marky1b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Ridgeline is also pre-wired for a trailer brake controller.

  • @mattgrov9068
    @mattgrov9068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Congrats on the Sinclair sponsorship guys!

  • @j.f.562
    @j.f.562 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great videos guys, thank you!

  • @rusty383
    @rusty383 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I Absolutely love the Self adjusting Shocks are Awesome.

  • @Kevin-hp5fk
    @Kevin-hp5fk ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I love the realisation he has when the Mav gets to the top of the hill. "Is that the same as the Santa Cruz?!?". Yes, if you drive an equal distance in two vehicles at the same speed, on the same surface, you'll cover that distance in the same amount of time.

    • @spyder000069
      @spyder000069 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What you are missing is the account for the initial acceleration to the speed limit and whether it maintains that speed the whole time. Either can affect the overall time. In many of these tests the vehicle is sluggish to the speed limit (where more gears may have an advantage) or not enough reserve power and it requires it to be floored the whole time (also dinging the sound measurement test).

  • @jakes5530
    @jakes5530 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Christmas came early this year - well done gents. Of the 3 I’d pick the Maverick. Like Andre said, it’s way more trucky than the other two, and significantly cheaper when similarly equipped. With the SC, besides being worse at brake applications, Nathan’s thoughts on the dual clutch is another reason I’d be hesitant to choose it over the Maverick.

    • @gwpeoples
      @gwpeoples 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Well it's also a Ford. And I've owned Fords. If you want to take out a college loan amount of debt to own one... you can! I just hope you get to use it for the amount of time you can afford to pay back the loan. (Hint: In the 70,000+ miles you might see some high repair bills).

    • @Argedis
      @Argedis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@gwpeoples Yeah when they said the Maverick was $37k that blew my mind. Ford is laughing their way to the bank.

    • @lesterparker1594
      @lesterparker1594 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@gwpeoples funny, I’ve owned 2 cheap fords, wife had 1. My 2 made it to 200k with zero issues. Wife’s made it to 150k and I had to replace the throttle body. Cost $40 and 15 minutes. My buddys 2020 trailboss just had the engine rebuilt. Give me Ford over GM any day

    • @ocrapo9327
      @ocrapo9327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Argedis When they said the maverick was 19.9k that blew my mind. I am thanking ford all the way to my next destination.

    • @Argedis
      @Argedis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ocrapo9327 Ford is charging a ridiculous $1,500 destination fee so it's not actually $20k.
      They are laughing at all the suckers calling it $20k because that's exactly what they wanted.
      Speedkar99 did a in depth mechanical review on the new Escape (which the Maverick is based on) and it's built EXTREMELY cheap... There's a reason why it's cheap

  • @Tujae_
    @Tujae_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad I watched this video. The results surprised me. This has changed my previous opinions.

  • @richarde1355
    @richarde1355 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is great stuff. I recently purchased a 3500 pound trailer and am considering a mid-size truck as both a daily driver and tow rig, and the Ridgeline is near it at the top of the list. Towing capacity is, of course, important, but all the mid size trucks meet the towing needs, and reliability and comfort are at the top of my list.
    Any thoughts on choices other than the Ridgeline?

  • @mikefoehr235
    @mikefoehr235 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would like to wish all at TFL A Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄 and a Happy New Year 🇨🇦🥂🍻🍺🍾

  • @timshelby2324
    @timshelby2324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Thanks for doing this , I am 100% getting the Honda Ridgeline now .

    • @chuckd7423
      @chuckd7423 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I like the Ridgeline and would consider it if it wasn't a few inches too long to fit into my garage bay without tearing out my full width workbench and storage cabinets in the front of the garage. I'm not interested in tearing out the garage built-ins, and am not going to buy a new vehicle that I have to park out in the driveway while leaving a perfectly good garage bay empty. The Maverick and SC will both fit in the garage, and they'll both do all the things I need a truck for, while coming in at a cheaper price than a comparably equipped Ridgeline.

    • @txp-tuff4358
      @txp-tuff4358 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm a big Ridgeline fan. Does everything well. Might go with a Santa Cruz in a few years IF 1) It gets a few better MPG or more over the Ridgeline in everyday driving AND 2) there aren't issue with the engine or transmission, which seem to dog Hyundai for decades. Don't mind the small recalls, but when there are recalls for engines packing it in and fires...then I'll stay with the Ridgeline with it's great J-series engine and (now) reliable 9-speed.

  • @anthonyzhang4918
    @anthonyzhang4918 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Maverick is amazing. I still gotta go with a Ranger since I need the 7500lb capacity but still, the maverick doesn’t cease to amaze.

  • @pabloyanez2235
    @pabloyanez2235 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video... wish you had tested the Maverick HYBRID, wonder how it would have done in the downhill. Would it generate lots of battery power (with less breaking) and then used that power on the uphill?

  • @darkpepsi
    @darkpepsi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I notice the temperature was climbing more on the Maverick than the Santa Cruz or the Ridgeline (benchmark vehicle). Is it because the ford was towing at the max or it is mostly the nature of inclining any vehicle uphill in a steep grade?

  • @fabulousoffroaddesigns5080
    @fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I also don't feel it's good practice to take off points based on the fuel mileage stated on the dash without verifying it was accurate.

  • @TheSingleTrucker
    @TheSingleTrucker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maverick performed better with less cu. In. And towed better. Santa Cruz was comfortable and did not outperform a .5 ltr engine smaller. Great ep guys!

  • @GIGABACHI
    @GIGABACHI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That Maverick got TOO HOT 🔥 for comfort, IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER. 😳
    Had the towing continued for any longer and it would have overheated.💩👎

  • @JohnLee-db9zt
    @JohnLee-db9zt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Santa Cruz wins in my book. It has much more comfortable ride, lower noise, better fuel economy, and higher towing capacity. The Maverick was stressed to the max and nearly overheated in 46 degree weather.

    • @CanadianMax
      @CanadianMax 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Agreed.

    • @0HOON0
      @0HOON0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Add a hot summer day to the mix and the Maverick would have been in limp mode trying to finish the climb.

    • @KyleEbright
      @KyleEbright 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's also about $5,000 more than the maverick, which is important to note.

    • @martincadenas5839
      @martincadenas5839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Long term reliability is probably ass

    • @JohnLee-db9zt
      @JohnLee-db9zt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@martincadenas5839 Your grasp of the English language is just 🤌🏻.

  • @fritty9927
    @fritty9927 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed the video guys.

  • @JRs-guitars
    @JRs-guitars 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. As much as I dont like Hondas I'm digging the newer Ridgelines. Towing with that in Sport mode probably would've made more sense.

  • @williammorgan5032
    @williammorgan5032 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    My new 2022 Ridgeline tows the best when I put the transmission in "S" mode. It holds great going downhill on the cruise control too.

    • @allenstuck2861
      @allenstuck2861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Junk

    • @dalefrolander3583
      @dalefrolander3583 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@allenstuck2861you think a Ford or Hyundai are more reliable than a Honda....smh.

    • @NWI_Steel
      @NWI_Steel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What does your husband drive?

    • @eddiepeele9810
      @eddiepeele9810 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you tow with it? Weight?

  • @billchesney8949
    @billchesney8949 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I wonder how hot the Maverick will get with warmer outdoor temps considering the temp. is only 46. It was already starting to overheat, 6 bars on the gauge Another couple miles would probably put it in the RED

    • @rubenrodriguez1209
      @rubenrodriguez1209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Was wondering the same thing, especially with the Texas heat.

    • @2A4U.S.A
      @2A4U.S.A 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rubenrodriguez1209 Not too many mountains in Texas.. I'm sure with normal highway driving it would be fine.

    • @rubenrodriguez1209
      @rubenrodriguez1209 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@2A4U.S.A true, but doesn’t mean they won’t push it’s limits towing.

    • @RickysHP
      @RickysHP ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah, staying true to Ford's turbo engines, it runs hot... Didn't seem to be such an issue on the Hyundai. My Ecoboost F150 would always run hot when pulling real mountains.

  • @ibuiltmineo1oo
    @ibuiltmineo1oo ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the new Sinclair gas all around us in this area. Even the refinery in Cheyenne now has a huge dinosaur painted on the big tank by the road. Good advertisement!

  • @nlpnt
    @nlpnt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've said before, with towing capacity "how often" is as important as "how much"? If I were pulling 4k in the mountains every day I'd want at least a fullsize 150(0) with the max towing options to have that margin of safety/durability. And if it's just a couple times a year I still say renting and putting the strain on U-Haul's transmission and brakes rather than your own is the most cost-effective option.