Just took an 1800 mile road trip with our 2022 SEL and it was flawless. Wonderful truck. Quiet, smooth, and fun to drive. At age 71 , it is my first new vehicle.
56 year old shopper here and I've been having an ear out for what trouble they run into as they break in. Very helpful to hear they can be berable for long travel.
It’s for those light duty everyday things. They’re just for those occasional bulky items that you just can’t fit in certain vehicles at a certain price points. One should never set their expectations at an unreasonable level here. It is a decent reasonable vehicle. If you want a full fledged truck then you buy one of those and be done with it.
I’m a truck guy and have been for 4 decades. I just bought a 2024 XRT 2.5T Santa Cruz. I love the fuel mileage, power and the ability to throw some stuff in the back. It’s my light truck and then I have my diesel when I need to actually pull
Finally a big truck person who can appreciates what this vehicle for what it is and can do! To many big truck guys poop on this and maverick when in fact these vehicles are surprisingly very capable!
Watch your battery. Mine has been treated like a baby. I’ve been through 4 batteries in as many months. Something is draining it and the service department can’t figure out what the problem is. Got a trickle charger . Battery still won’t hold charge ..
After having watched literally hundreds of auto vids in the last few months, this is by far the best one. Great to get the perspective of a mechanic - someone who will talk about potential issues that most other reviewers don't touch on. Very interesting about the higher trims and DCT transmissions. Went to an auto show yesterday and really liked the Santa Cruz. The good and the bad about the vehicle were clearly explained in this video. Definite thumbs up and subscription for this!
Did you buy a Santa Cruz after all your research? I'm asking because I'm considering the Santa Cruz after months of research and this vehicle fits the bill.
@@strongislandautoenthusiast841It is a great vehicle, just get the non-turbo with the 8-speed. More dependable and it has enough power for your daily tasks
You nailed it when describing the target buyer. I love my Santa Cruz because it fits in city spaces much easier than a “real truck,” drives like a car/suv, and hauls what I need it to haul ( garden supplies, the occasional piece of furniture or appliance, and rec gear). Perfect for my urban needs.
yea no need to hit a curb in those sharp turns into grocery lots or need to worry about the length of your bed hitting a tail light when backing out a parking space, and no blind spots!
I got my '22 Santa Cruz SEL since they first came out, and I love it. I personally don't need the Turbo, or any of the fancy bells and whistles. It's not a truck, but it's "truck-enough" for my practical usage. Since ownership, I have been averaging 32mpg as well.
I bought the 2022 SEL AWD 2.5 NA for $29.5k over a year ago. Bought 18 " blizzaks for winter and Falken Wildpeak A/T for summer. Bought a soft tonneau cover and class III hitch. Love it! 30+ mpg and it exactly what I was looking for
Thanks for sharing! Definitely interested in the mileage and utility of it without the price of a “real truck.” Only wish is there was a hybrid option like the Ford Maverick. But from what you’re experiencing it may not be necessary.
I'm in the market. Its between this and the Maverick. Because of price I like base (non turbo no DCT). Anyone know the tow capacity? Online you can price it with AWD so I'm assuming that is an option on the low trim.
@@tonyk438 Gandering at the owner's manual for the 2023 year model, the only way you would obtain a 5000 lbs payload capacity is with a turbo, AWD, and 2 occupants. Anything else will only do 3500 lbs. If anything, it should have no problem with things like small-ish boats, open trailer bed, another vehicle, an RV (small, travel, pop-up), a loaded 12' Uhaul cargo trailer.
@Dustin Holub Thanks! I'm looking at a Scamp trailer. Gotta figure out if 3500 would work. Maverick can do 4k. I really need to talk to Scamp manufacturer to find out I think.
Like others have said, I never thought I would own a Hyundai and this Santa Cruz filled a gap that I needed in having a small truck. I own a '19 Ram 3500 Dually and to take that to haul the things I need to haul is a major event as I would have to remove my 5th wheel hitch and I still only have 5ft of bed since I have an aux fuel tank. This Santa Cruz is EXACTLY what I was looking for in a small truck and I looked at them all. The styling and features, the smoooooth ride and power sold me on the Santa Cruz. I traded in a Mercedes for this truck and couldn't be happier, this has way more features than my 2020 Mercedes had. Even though this reviewer doesn't like the DCT transmission, I have a crazy Hyundai warranty that says I won't have to worry about it for a really long time!! The mileage is great and the truck turns heads everywhere I go and I'm sure I am the only one who has one in my town!!
I just got my 2024 Santa Cruz Limited! It’s perfect! Plenty of power, great sound system, plenty of tech! I’m extremely pleased! Never thought I would own a Hyundai as pleasing as this Santa Cruz!
This is for me: a guy who is going to live in the city, and needs something comfortable, nimble and gas efficient enough for commutes and day-to-day, but also likes to go hunting once in a while or has a need to haul things or tow a trailer with a motorcycle on it.
I have 13k on my turbo santa cruz with many upgrades making close to 400hp and havent had issues yet. Hyundai has stated they will replace transmissions with recalls with a loner car if ever afflicted (early models mine included... its an issue with the high pressure pump and not the transmission itself. I am an ASE Certified mechanic and shop manager) I do agree with many points expecially the exhaust bits. Brakes are plenty efficient. Suspension is great for what it is. Performance for what the vehicle is far beyond competitors. 0 to 60 times in the turbo version is a bit ridiculous for what the vehicle is.
I passed on a great deal today for a Limited ‘24 because I wanted to wait for the next gen. But it’s tempting not to. Coming with a 2017 Audi S5 the turbos are the one. Only somewhat concerned about what I’m hearing with the DCT.
@@kt9495 So I have the trasmission with the recall in 2022. I am Highly modified and the transmission is great. The recall is only on the high flow oil pump. If it fails. New transmission under warranty regardless of mods due to the recall. With the corrected oil pump on the 2023s and up... the transmission can easily handle 400+ AWHP. Keep in mind... this is not a dry dct. It is a wet DCT. Wet DCTs are what they use in bugatti, paganni, ferrari. Hell half the super cars out there use wet dct transmissions. Most cheaper cars use dry dct. This is the reason for shift farts vs smooth shifts. The Santa Cruz has wet dct for many reasons but Hyundai is using their lines to experiment for their Genesis line. My Santa Cruz runs sub 5 second 0 to 60 times (again highly modified with mostly custom parts) and can easily beat any wrx (bolt ons or not... with tuner or not)... roll raced a 500whp 2003 rustang on the highway from 50 to 120... walked like a dog in the park. Beat a tesla model 3 from a dig to 60. So from a highly modified view with the troubled transmission to a potential buyer of a 2023 or later stock reliability standpoint... i have 25k miles on my car now. With over 10k miles of harsh driving with way more power and still holding up... Id say the rumors... although true.. are very far between. (I say this now and my tranny blows tomorrow! Hahahaha! Wouldnt that be funny... for all but me. Lol!) But yeah... no problems for me on a modified 2022.
The large rear shocks are for the passive self leveling system that comes on all trims. As the suspension moves, the shocks adjust to keep the bed level. It works very well.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 These have fairly decent towing capacity, so it you're pulling a trailer (or a small camper) those rear struts are going to help level out that weight on the rear end.
I compared the Ridgeline to the Santa Cruz extensively before finally deciding on the Ridgeline. Yep, the DCT was a major deciding factor. I tow a motorcycle trailer around 3,500 pounds, and I don't need that DCT to go out on me. The rear seat of the Ridgeline is much more usable and can carry actual passengers. The bed size is obvious. The resale value of the Santa Cruz is dismal compared to the Ridgeline. BUT, the Santa Cruz LOOKS AWSOME! AMD, thank you for all that you are doing! Yes, may the Lord bless you and keep you and your family
I believe all 2nd Gen. RLs have DCTs. Honda automatic transmissions give out mostly in the heavier V6 models… like the RL or the Odyssey. Their 4-cyl. manual transmissions lasted forever back in the day. I have a 2019 RL, and it’s a DCT.
You can get the santa cruz with a normal 8 speed torque converter that works fine, unfortunately you can't have both the turbo and the traditional torque converter since the turbos all have dct I believe, big blunder in my book.
In my head you are correct that the RL is the better truckle. But the Hyundai is a looker where the Honda is pretty far over on the dull scale. And vehicles for a anyone enthusiastic about cars is more often than not a passion purchase.
I do not recommend to purchase a Hyundai Santa Fe. I just had mine replaced the transmission at 2000 miles. They also have replaced the transmission computer and it still continues to have issues I found out that all of the dual clutch transmissions. have the same issues and they cannot figure out the problem
Sidenote, it just so happens that the bed features specifically the cover and the somewhat hidden trunk storage are what ultimately sold me on seriously considering the Santa Cruz which we ended up buying. Without the integrated bed cover I doubt I would’ve even bought this because I think it makes the bed so much more usable on a day-to-day basis, secure storage out of sight not having to worry about it etc. since I wasn’t trying to buy a truck, the amount of open bed space was not a huge concern to me. So if you’re in the same situation as me when you’re comparing prices you gotta include that really nice bed cover when you’re looking at the price of for example a maverick or a Honda or even a Toyota. those things cost 3k +
I'm back and forth about how much truck I want and need a comfortable daily driver too. I go camping and need more volume for gear and cooler than a hatchback provides. I also do beekeeping. It's currently between a used Subaru of some flavor and this Hyundai with the bed cover. But I'm the odd duck that wants no turbo, no DCT trouble as I take the unpaved roads in state parks, a tow hitch, the tonnau cover, leather-ette seats and fitted cabin liners. I'm feeling dealership won't want to make up a special low-ball priced package for me. The sales guy won't be interested in me and my piddly pocket book.
I'm picturing the closest thing to my 1999 Sportage with leather-ett seats in this dream SC. I start to see why I keep thinking about the SC. It's very like a roof-less Sportage of that very wide and open design of the time. I hauled so much in that SUV! If the SC could drive and take corners like my Nissan NX2000 did, it would be my dream car for sure.
My normally aspirated CRUZ has been awesome. Carries a tone of stuff and it tows well too. 36,000 miles in. Most impressive is the quality of steel used and paint finish.
Best review I've seen so far of the Santa Cruz, thanks for your honest insight and observations! I bought a Santa Cruz new last month and I agree with almost all of your opinions here, love that you really explore every feature with a real-world lense and hit mechanical aspects as well.
26:07 Til the end of the video is very true. I bought my 23 SC Limited in January over a fully loaded Frontier. The main reasons? -Ride quality and interior comfort (it handles the road like a Lexus and is surprisingly quiet!) -Plenty of power (2.5 Turbo) -Excellent in light snow even on the factory Michelins -I dont tow anything.. (but the option is there with the SC) -Throw a lawn mower... mulch bags... golf clubs.... outdoors gear etc in the truck bed outside of cabin! -Under bed storage for ice/drinks/anything you want that locks. The bed cover and tailgate even locks to keep everything secure. All for less than 42k January 2023. Highly recommend giving one a test drive. I have also driven a loaded 22 Ridgeline and it was giant in comparison around town... not to mention the ride quality was better in the Hyundai which is really surprising.
Great review, have a 23 SEL and love it. Plenty of power with the NA engine. Very comfortable and practical and so much more functional than an SUV for carrying stuff around.
I have the 2024 Santa Cruz SEL with the 2.5 N/A engine. I get tired of these reviews with these guys running the turbo engines saying the naturally asperated engine is so under powered. I bet most of those idiots have never driven one to know anything about it. And since you can only get the DCT trans in the turbo model that makes it a no sale to me as the DCT's are junk. My wife and I both love our little truck and if we need a bigger truck we have our F-150 XLT Sport with a tuned 5.0 if need more power.
@darrellnewbury5051 Your comment is use helpful. I'm in the market now for the santa cruz. Been leaning on the non turbo/DCT. Test drove the non turbo and seemed fine.
We got the 2023 Limited. Love it so far. This is our "road trip" vehicle. It will suit our travelling needs just fine. Thanks for the review, and I'll keep my eyes open for the items you discussed.
Stumbled on to your vehicle reviews. Love the mechanic angle/approach where you thoroughly cover the pluses and minuses of the engine and drivetrain in particular and the expert knowledge you share. Everyone seems to speak to the styling and infotainment features. Your honest insights and where you speak to the down-the-road reliability of the engineering are refreshing. Bravo, bravo!
Enough with the truck concern. The vehicle is for a car like ride with the ability to keep sports equipment on the outside. I carry a lot of gear that ends up wet or dirty at the end of the activity. This can be hosed out. That’s it.
The Santa Cruz I own, Turbo tricked out at 24,000 miles that transmission is going out. The door seal around the drivers door had to be replaced the 1st time at 6,000mi. This because a tall person 6"+, rubs their butt across the door seal upon entry. Door seals are not warranty items, even with the upgraded warranty.
I've driven dozens of cars including the Ford Focus to the BMW 5-series over my lifetime including several trucks like the Chevy S-10 or Ram 1500. I can honestly say that, so far, Santa Cruz gave me the biggest satisfaction of ownership. With other vehicles, it's about getting from point A to point B or what kind of premium options I can enjoy. With SC possibility is wide open. In fact, I usually buy vehicles with full option. But with SC, I just bought base SEL AWD and am quite happy with it.
Thanks for making another great idepth review! As I continue my search for a new ride, I ALWAYS find yours MOST helpful... Gid bless you and your family
We just got a 2024 Limited for my wife. It is absolutely amazing to drive and the mileage is great. I have a 2019 GMC Sierra with the 12,200 lb tow package so we didn’t need another truck. I like the looks of it inside and out. Mileage is almost 31 on the interstate and should get better once it gets some miles on it. It is quite fast off the line. It is just fun. I did purchase the full 100,000 mile warranty.
I have a 2023 SC Limited. I do like it quite a bit, But I think the best way to summarize it is a car with a lot of great ideas behind it but also with a lot of compromises. The car for it's price point is pretty feature rich, but is missing: - A HUD - Memory seats - Power Passenger seat - Rear center arm rest - Usable rear storage - Any kind of practicality to the rear glass window Also, while the outlet in the bed is nice, Hyundai just kind of threw it in there because other trucks have it. It's power draw is actually the same as a cigarette outlet, so you can't actually use it for anything other than like, charging a phone. No tools, no big radio, no generator, no small cooking appliances for camping, etc. You'd be hard pressed to even charge something like a laptop. Another thing is the bed lights only come on with a switch by the driver side foot well, or when the storage bin is open. So if you tend to keep you cover closed, you have to constantly make sure to hit the button to see anything. My last big gripe is the headlights and radar on the limited. He already mentioned in the video about the headlights getting covered in snow. Its 100% true. The bottom of the car just eats up all that shit on the road and it gets stuck there. That also affects the front camera/radar which affects cruise control and forward collision assist. The front radar is so bad with weather I've already had it deactivate from just moderate rain, let alone snow. It rides super nice. Handles like an SUV so its super smooth. The AWD handles great in inclement weather. And the fuel economy is pretty good. I think eventually though I'd like to swap to a fully loaded Tacoma or Tundra with the hybrid engine. Still get decent mpgs but also get all the truck stuff with out compromises.
I transport up to three foster dogs along with my two on a regular basis. A manual passenger seat is a plus because it moves forward so much faster than a power seat.
I bought a 23 Limited specifically because it wasn't a "real" truck. Just as you said at the end, I wanted it for some truck utility but for the most part I want a nice comfortable daily driver. Also, unlike the Maverick, the SC isn't trying to look like a truck and I love the way mine looks.
The only car review youtube page I watch. My guy here actually reviews the car instead of just reading off a tech spec sheet and describing the interior.
This is by far the best car review channel on TH-cam. Thanks for doing these reviews in depth. Love how you don’t compromise and roast what needs to be roasted. Will you ever do one of a Subaru Outback wilderness?? I’d love to see that review!
CCN does a good job... though he does seem to nit pick on non Toyotas, and sorta give a Toyota a pass when stuff is cheap. Like the exhaust and sound proofing comments. Check out Alex on Autos also.. he does not tend to roast cars.. but concentrates on the facts, figures and dimensions and features.. and compares similar cars against each other.. does road testing.. 0-60, noise, ride, MPG etc. Hes been around a while.
@@korndawggy1801 I'm not saying he doesn't do good reviews. And I definitely respect his mechanical ability. I've learned a lot by watching his videos. A little bit harsh sometimes on non Toyota vehicles. For example in this particular video you mentioned the lack of any cladding underneath the car or the exhaust and drive shaft were. Saying he thought there should be sound deadening material there or something. And yet he also commented that the car was extremely quiet while driving on the highway. Maybe that's why her day didn't put sound deadening material there because it wasn't necessary. Toyota does plenty of dumb stuff mechanically with their cars too. Different manufacturers seem to do different dumb stuff though lol.
It’s certainly not for everyone. And I agree it’s definitely not a truck. I bought mine specifically because I was not looking for a truck. Just a capable vehicle with good gas mileage for two adults that had some capabilities to carry larger items occasionally but yet drove comfortably and was fun to drive. The limited trim came with some great tech features many of which I wasn’t sure I cared about that much, but now I love them including the lane changing cameras and all the other comfort and convenience tech. I love driving my limited because it feels like more of a sport sedan. it’s quick and powerful and smooth and the transmission works great at least for street driving. if you’re considering one of these make sure you understand that it is not a Jeep or some off-road machine. While I think it has some design elements that make it look mean and tough and it has a really great looking stance, it’s actually a pussycat underneath. Well something in between a pussycat and a cheetah. 😂
How much gas mileage (MPG) do you get and what’s the range? I’m a big dude 6’5 (300lbs) so trucks are definitely something I want to invest in. But gas ain’t cheap in Texas anymore. I heard it’s between 21-27 MPG?
The Santa Cruz NOT being a truck is the appeal to me. Independent rear suspension and a unibody are much more preferable to me than body on frame construction and a live axle that I don't need.
@@curtismaloney7188 Styling. There's nothing wrong with the Maverick - I like them, but it's not a vehicle that I'd really be into looks wise - and if I'm not into the look of a particular vehicle, I won't own it.
Had a 2016 Hyundai Tucson with the dodgy theta II engine. Had to practically give it away because it was burning so much oil that it clogged the CAT - Because there were no engine codes yet, hyundai refused to replace the engine free. Even though it's a WELL-known issue that they even settled lawsuits over. I know a lady with exact same vehicle but because her engine started knocking, she had to get her engine replaced...around the same time mine was being looked at - Local Hyundai dealer acted like they never heard of this issue...as they did with mine. Another friend has a 2016 Kia Optima (same engine as mine) which also died on him for same reason. He had to try several Kia dealerships before they fixed it free. Even after being fixed, all he was offered on trade-in was $3,000 - should be about $10,000. Also there is the guy in Eastern Canada with an almost new Hyundai Ioniq 5 which they quoted $65,000 to replace his dented battery....$65,000 is the price of a new Ioniq 5 - Even with the media involved they only offered to drop the quote by a couple of thousand. I will NEVERRRRR buy another Hyundai or Kia, or even buy a used car from a Hyundai or Kia dealership. The way I view it, they lost me at least $7,000 straight out of my pocket.
Love my SC with the turbo. The sweet spot for these seems to be the middle trims. At the low trim, you should really look at the Maverick for lower entry cost. At the high trim you should be looking at the Ridgeline or something else more capable. I am basically the target demographic so it fits me perfectly - a small town/rural suburban homeowner with messy hobbies that often has to park in a parking garage for work or in small city visits. I do dump runs every couple of weeks, take my mountain bike out, need to bring landscape or yardwork materials home through the spring and summer, have lowes or home depot lumber runs, etc. This thing covers all that kind of stuff without the thousand dollars extra in gas each year and dealing with a bigger vehicle that I would get with a midsize or full size truck. Your nitpicks are pretty accurate though, that go pro fender thing was a very half-assed gimmick and the tonneau should have strictly been an extra you can add on to any trim, not included. It is well built and pretty rugged, but it eats up almost a foot of bed depth for large objects and is a pain to remove or install (from my understanding, I haven't tried yet).
ford is having all sorts of reliability problems--I have owned a stinger and now a Kona N and have had no problems with either and I have gone to public drag night with them--
@@JPisTheWord ....... the turbo engine option on the top version of this vehicle increasing the towing power from est. 3500 # tp 5000#.....there are some independant videos online that compare the two engines...and how the vehicle performance compares to the smaller pickup trucks......Santa Cruz was pretty darned capable in towing power comparisons.
You're one of the only mechanics/reviewers that gets into the details about the engine and transmission which is what I most want to hear. Car manufacturers don't explain half as much these days as they used to and salespeople almost never know these details. I also appreciate your common sense observations and opinions. You usually confirm what I was already thinking, but you say it in a nicer way! 😉
The large rear shocks on the Santa Cruz are mono tube automatic self leveling ride control units. They work great and are a valuable feature for carrying a heavy payload without bottoming out. Better payload than the 2017 Tacoma Off Road Double Cab Long Bed 4x4 that I had for 5 years. Tacoma DCLB 4x4 payload-about 950 pounds. Santa Cruz payload-1,400 pounds with better ride and handling. The Santa Cruz plastic pieces on the leading edges of suspension components is a nice feature. It keeps those steel pieces from becoming gravel, sand blasted and rusted out over time. Something that happens to the rear shocks and suspension when you drive on graveled and sanded snow covered highways or graveled country roads on property. The Santa Cruz weighs about 4,100 pounds. It's built pretty stout. As a small vehicle, it's only a few hundred pounds lighter than a larger Tacoma 4x4 Double Cab Long Bed 4x4. The tonneau will get in the way for carrying motorcycles or long sofas. The tonneau cover works fine and doesn't get in the way if you're carrying 8 ft lumber, fence posts and boards or any other yard construction or landscape materials.
I bought my '24 XRT after watching the review, and I absolutely love it. It drives so comfortably, my wife loves being a passenger princess in it. I'm not hauling anything crazy, but it's doing great for my kayaks and I love that I don't have to put it on the roof rack anymore. All in all it was worth the money, if you can find a certified pre owned model for a good price like I did (5k miles for 31k - scooooore!) I would say don't even hesitate and do it. They're wonderful
I just got the 2023 sel Activity. And damn this is literally my perfect vehicle so far. I don't need a full pickup but need a small bed for my creative lifestyle. I think the SEL and SEL activity is a great deal depending on what you want.
All my vehicles have been trucks but my first. I like my santa cruz. It fits in my garage and just great for hauling plywood etc. The 2.5 turbo has giving up to 30 mpg. Love the extra power and the comfort of it interior. I also love driving it.
The 10 year/100,000 miles is a great selling point, but as many have stated, it’s all about whether they will do the warranty work. Genesis should have their own dealerships, not in the same building as Hyundai and Kia. We looked into Genesis as well, but steered toward Lexus due to more positive dealership experience. YMMV.
Just traded my four month old 2024 Ford Maverick Lariat Tremor for a Hyundai Santa Cruz SEL for the following reasons.(1) The Maverick had a plastic gas pedal that was suspended from the top. My foot had slid off dozens of times or more because the pedal didn't come down far enough. Buy the time I missed the pedal and hit the brake I had come close to hitting two parked cars pulling in and hit a taller concrete stop. I even added covers to the pedals with rubber strips and still had the problem. I felt it should be a recall. Both Hyundai's have the gas pedal attached at the bottom and there is never the fear factor. (2) I had the rotary dial transmission shifter and could never get use to it. I had to take my time shifting and in a panic situation I just couldn't react fast enough. (3) The seats were the synthetic A-Active leather and their was an outline of something that ended up being the flap on my cargo pants. 1/8 inch deep and was in in the seat for one month before I took it to the dealer and the service manager said they wouldn't replace it. He took a picture of pants and impressed leather and I have heard nothing back form him in almost two months. So for everyone on the Maverick Forums who thinks Ford has a 36 month bumper to bumper warranty. They don't. I was told by people that Ford does not back their products. I had the turbo and was getting 19 miles per gallon in the city. The 450 horsepower Mustang GT that I traded in was getting 17 in town. Plus the Santa Cruz is Direct and Multi-Port fuel injection. The Maverick was only Direct Injection and would need the valves cleaned as an extra expensive scheduled maintenance item. The interior in the Santa Cuz is extremely nice compared. I have owned 10 Hondas and switched to Hyundai back in 1995. I have a 2020 Hyundai Sana Fe and it was one of my favorite vehicles out of the 59 I have owned in my lifetime.
Just bought one of these, and I'm the buyer you mentioned at the end of the video. It drives like a car, fits in my garage, but I chose it over a RAV4 because I need an open bed. I really hope Toyota comes out with a competitor so I can come back home! Really liked the review.
@@jmartyt9810 Just throw it in the back of a RAV4. I’ve carried rocks and dirt in my RAV4. It’s suspension is super stiff and sags less than half tons. Pickups and sedans are useless vehicles.
My only problem with this thing is the bed seems a bit too short. Instead of having that bed cover, they should’ve made the back wall collapsible so that the bed extends into the back seats.
I own a SC and I agree with your statement. Although I do like the sliding bed cover they could’ve made it lighter and easy to remove then with pass-through fold-down rear seats few could reasonably complain about the bed length.
It's for someone like ME, who really appreciated the 80s-vintage mini-trucks and considers the Colorado and larger as simply too large--as I call them, "Road Whales™" In fact, I traded a Colorado to get this.
Hate on the DCT all you want, it's the slickest shifting manual transmission you can get in a "truck" and I love it. The only place it loses anything to a slushy torque converted auto is crawling from a stop. Because, yeah, it's a manual transmission, automatically shifted. This was EXACTLY the vehicle I had been waiting for. I don't need a 6.5 or 8 foot bed - but I need a bed to haul stuff once in a while. It seals up all of our luggage on vacation in a locked bed with the tonneau. And I use it to commute 200km each day, five days a week. In 17+ months with it, and over 58,000km, it has been flawless - and I NEVER feel like I'm driving a truck. I've put in 16 hour days on the road in it - and was never uncomfortable or felt road weary at the end of it. Is it for everyone? Heck no! Absolutely not! If you want a "real truck" don't even look at it. I've driven trucks. I still have a 97 full size Sierra in the driveway ... which hasn't moved almost at all since the Cruz arrived. Got nothing against trucks. I just hate how excessively HUGE they've all become. I wanted small, this is small. It was between this and the Maverick for me, and the Maverick is ... uninspiring. A fine little "truck" and all, but it sure doesn't turn heads driving down the street like this does. Heck, filling up with gas tonight, the poor guy behind the register was distracted from ringing me up because he was too busy staring at and asking me about my Santa Cruz. After almost a year and a half with it I STILL get stopped regularly by people asking it or looking at it. Last summer I had a guy (driving a Tacoma) stop in front of my house and knock on the door to ask about it and look at it. This thing makes a statement. Not everyone is going to like it, and that's fine with me. I don't want to walk into a parking lot and have to try to figure out which one of the 23 trucks of the same model AND colour is mine. There are currently only two others in my town, and we all have different colours. Met both of the owners, very nice folks and all love their little trucklet a lot. But as for "should you buy it?" Only if you want one. I did. I pre-ordered the Ultimate (Limited in US). ZERO regrets. :)
This is the best overall review of the Santa Cruz. I really enjoyed your under the chassis insight which was the only one of its kind I've seen so far. Your insights on the engine design were also excellent and the only one I've seen before. I really enjoy how you not only review how the vehicle looks but your comments on build quality are very insightful. One of your best reviews yet. Thank you for the excellent reivew.
12:32 the "massive" rear shocks are because they are self-leveling shocks on the rear to keep the headlights properly aligned when carrying weight in the bed/towing.
@@wolfman_jack it's an honest oversight. It's not like this is his vehicle, it's a press vehicle. And if he missed that one line on the spec sheet, it would seem just from appearance like they installed massive shocks in the rear, since they don't have air lines sticking out or any other obvious giveaway that they're self-leveling, as they are a fully integrated hydraulic design which requires no external components to function.
Nice review. I have the SEL with Activity Package. It is exactly what I needed and wanted. Highway mileage is getting 34 mpg. Great ride. Quite and comfortable. Two things I don't think you hit on were 1400 pound payload and 3500 pound towing capacity.
So glad to hear that!!! That is exactly the combo l want to get for my next vehicle.....thanks for the input. Good to know you are getting better mileage than estimated.
Just thinking about this review and what I really need in a pick-up. 1.excellent reliability (what good is a pick-up without that?). 2. Great handing and road feel (a pickup that's an SUV is great for that) 99% of the time I'm on-road and the worst traction moments for me would be torrential rain or bad snow storm. An automatic traction system is best and safest instead of manually needing to switch to 4-hi or 4-low. 3. Some usable space (mid size works best with space for stuff and passengers) 4. Decent payload for the occasional used engine or trans. on a pallet. 1500lbs will do it. 5. Light to medium towing for moving the occasional small trailer full of furniture, 5000lbs max is fine. 6.quiet ride that's smooth when empty or loaded with a rear suspension that doesn't put me in a tree if I approach the exit too quickly (rear independent suspension is perfect for a street only non offroader). I'll take a Ridgeline thankyou, now if only they would build a hybrid model with the Acua MDX Type S drivetrain. Sorry, I'm just dreaming. 😂🙏
I have a 2011 Ridgeline EX-L Navi… and I would like something smaller and better on gas, but the more reviews I watch, the more I appreciate my Ridgeline. It just keeps going and going …
I've had my 2023 Santa Cruz SEL purchased new in late 22'. So, almost 2 years. It's AWD and gets around great in the snow. I broke it in properly so it now gets about 5 mph higher than when it started (around 26mph overall). The bed is small but it works for me - especially with the Tonneau cover. No problems
Thanks for the honest review - the comparison of the two engines is especially helpful. I'm currently driving my wife's "old" 2007 Santa Fe with over 200,000 miles on it and it just won't quit, so we've been very impressed (I've owned other Hyundai's as well). The Santa Cruz would be for "retirement" and would possibly get used to pull a small camper, but I'm also a musician, and the lockable bed on these is perfect for hauling valuable music gear out of sight (and with plenty of room).
You do phenomenal reviews. I have watched several of your Toyota/Lexus reviews and they are spot on and informative. I am so happy that I was not the only one concerned about a DCT in this vehicle. I went with a trim level that has all the options available without the DCT and Turbo engine. I wish it had the Turbo, but I can live with the lack of Power. The Santa Cruz has been a fantastic daily for my wife and fits our needs. Plus, it just looks pretty unique.
My dad and I were discussing engine choices. He wanted to have enough power without it feeling slow. He had a 1966 GTO back in the 70s. I compared my mom's 2019 Ram with the 395hp Hemi + 8spd and how he laughs at how silly it is with that much power. So, my point to him was: Do you really need a Turbo-charged 281hp and an 8spd in a smaller and 1000lbs lighter than my V8 Dakota (making ~240hp) with 100hp less than my mom's Ram? But what's the top speed of your mom's truck (limited 108mph, unlimited it could do 130mph+) is response: "OH, umm yeah smaller engine, cheaper insurance and less tickets."
The Hyundia Santa Cruz XRT is quirky but a great looking vehicle and reminds me of the Subaru Baja. I would love to see a second-generation Subaru Baja turbo model but the Santa Cruz is the next best thing. The Santa Cruz checks all the boxes for me, and I like the 100k factory warranty. On the turbo model Santa Cruz has anyone had any issues with the DCT transmission?
The THICK shocks are for electronically controlled self levelling, for example if you have 300 lbs of stuff in the bed lowering the rear, it will level the vehicle. They are not "Normal" shocks 😎
I was considering buying one of these and you had great information on this vehicle that the dealer dosen't really talk about or maybe dosen't know. I don't need a limited or turbo in small truck. The base model is all I need for daily driver. Great video !
Now THIS is a car review. With as much as manufacturers are asking for their vehicles now, buyers deserve to know absolutely everything before they buy.
I got mine to daily commute 100 miles and occasionally have to haul something small. I own 2 full size trucks with V8s one is 4x4 also own a 4x4 Tahoe. I got the lower end Santa Cruz didnt need anything fancy just mpg and a small bed. Plus i like the way it looks.
Very honest review. One year in on my 22 SEL/Activity. Points U make at end are right on. 30 yr. Owner of compact and mid-sized PU’s. Great for hauling. Not so great when not hauling. The quiet and comfort of this ride when NOT hauling is a real treat. As a pro artist I most often need to haul large, but not weighty objects, and have developed various jigs and supports to accommodate - really because of the interference of the roll-up cover - but the convenience of that cover is otherwise irreplaceable. Conveniences and accessories far outstrip any of the PU’s I’ve owned, even though it’s missing a few of the limited’s goodies. Not a hot rod, but sufficient. Not an economy car, but OK. The only vehicle I have ever owned that my BMW-driving spouse has ever WANTED to ride in! Absolutely WORST thing about this trim is the gawd-awful headlights. Worse that any vehicle I have ever owned. Hyundai should be ashamed.
I own a 2022 SEL with Activity package and I would say that is the best option to get where you get a bit of both worlds. Having some of the bells and whistles of the higher trims with the tried-and-true engine of the lower one. A lot of the positives he mentioned on the interior and the bed are very true, and I live downtown in a major city, so the fact that it drives like an SUV and not a truck is CRUCIAL in stop-and-go, quick lane-switching, compact street parking environment. I'm also a DIYer and weekend adventurer, so I fall right into the demographic for this trucks market and it's been great for me so far! Helped people move and go on 4-person camping trips. Hoping for a hybrid/electric model in the future!
Always great to see an objective and honest review from an expert. Hopefully you can get a Maverick soon to compare. A Ranger/Tacoma/Frontier/Colorado would also be good to show the mechanical difference when you go to body on frame.
I tow my Veloster N to the track all summer on a dolly. 4000 lbs. No trailer brakes. No issues. My SC and my Veloster N have the exact same DCT. I would say between the towing and the track use, I've torture tested it two ways. The DCT is awesome on the track. The DCT in the SC behaves much better if you keep it in Sport mode. FWIW, the brakes on the N are single piston as well. I've never had any issues braking or any brake fade even after 20 minutes on track.
this really is just a family car with a little more versatility that gets you a little bit of that truck life without having to buy a whole truck. I towed everything i own from maryland to texas when i moved and man what a clean ride. love the truck.
Cool, compact ute for running around town in right up until the warranty ends and the engine chugs oil or the transmission explodes. I'm glad to see these compact trucks coming back since full size and even mid size trucks are getting far to big and expensive for most people.
You nailed the demographic. I like the capability of throwing my mountain bike in the bed and still have the cab for people or stuff. I do lots of DIY stuff, and same thing, perfect for the occasional run to Lowe’s. I’ve done 3x 1,400 mile and one 2,200 mile road trips in my SEL Premium, and it’s hard to beat. On the highway at 65-70, I can usually get 27-30mpg. I managed to get 415 miles on a tank before filling up and still had about an 1/8 left. For the record, my absolute best was over 38mpg, BUT that was “perfect” conditions (sea level, no traffic, 50mph, SMART mode, laser straight road). I know the sliding cover does suck up a lot of room, BUT it’s really nice to throw a bunch of bags into and be able to lock up at night. I’ve taken it up some decent backroads, and I think it does exactly what it needs to, which is get me to the adventure. That said, I have 17” black rhino wheels and some Falken wildpeaks on order for a bit extra. Your criticisms are spot on though. The back seat is criminal, and the trims lower than the Limited DONT have USB or vents in the back. I added those little $6 fish-eye style stick-on mirrors to side mirrors though, and absolutely best $6 ever spent. The transmission worries me, mine was under the recall, and it sometimes makes some odd, jittery or stutter type feelings. BUT, 10yr/100k warranty, not my problem for a while. Though my 22 already had 27k miles. Overall, I really don’t think any other vehicle competes in terms of sheer versatility. This car is a jack of all trades, and I will try to keep mine for as long as feasible.
Totally agree with AMD's assessment...Nathan from TFL got a SEL with the non-turbo engine and 8 speed auto, and with knobs on the stereo and wireless Carplay/Android Auto. I think that would be the sweet spot, except for me the SEL with the Convenience Package for the moonroof would be ideal. The only thing missing from the SEL Premium & Limited trims, that I'd want honestly, are the LED headlights.
I have the non turbo SEL with the activity package. I put LED lights on myself with no problem. Love my SC. I'm a suburban homeowner and do it yourselfer. This car/truck is perfect for me. AND, I love the way it drives. Much more fun than my previous '15 Highlander.
I got the non-turbo SEL (without activity package) for the same reasons you outlined. Physical controls + gauges, heated seats, conveniences like lane shift warnings, remote start, etc. The only thing I wanted out of the activity package was the tonneau cover...but I wasn't willing to spend 3 grand to get that with all of the stuff I didnt want (like the moon roof, or sliding back window). I can always get a foldable tonneau cover later on for like 400 bucks. I love the vehicle. The 191 HP is just fine on the base engine. I've had my SC since September 2022, and I still get compliments from random strangers when I take it into town. They have so many questions lol. Never got that in my previous vehicles.
I seriously considered purchasing one of these. However, my biggest concern was the Hyundai engineering. I liked EVERYTHING else about it. However, I think that Hyundai engineering leaves a lot to be desired. If Toyota, Honda, Ford or even Mazda made this, I would have bought it. I also considered the Ford Maverick (hard to find); so, I ended up deciding upon a Mazda CX-30 two weeks ago. In the future, I might buy an updated version of this. It really is a good-looking vehicle.
But what do you mean by “engineering”? That’s a very general term that doesn’t mean anything. Is there anything specific about this vehicle that is bad? This guy doesn’t seem to think the engine is any less reliable than its counterparts.
My wife and just bought a 2023 Santa Cruz and we absolutely love it! It's exactly what you said toward the end of your video... That's why we got it plus we got a lower-end model No crap transmission and Turbo. I did a lot of research on the Maverick and I was not impressed. Plus the vehicle is a different design from others. Like a Subi Brat on Steriods. 😂
Yes. You described my wants for my next vehicle. When I first saw it, I called it a SUV with a truck bed. Honestly I'm buying for the looks. I do not tow or haul so this sounds perfect. Thank you for 5he review
The large back shocks are due to the Santa Cruz including a mechanical self leveling system for towing and/or heavy loads in the back. This feature alone puts even the entry level Santa Cruz SE above the competition...a 3500lb entry level tow rating vs Maverick at 2000 lbs also helps.
I have owned several different manufacturers vehicles and all have had their share of issues. I currently have a 2024 limited and love it. Purchase what you like and enjoy life. It's truly short.
@@maga6319 I am not bothered by any of those trucks. My SUV is very solid and running and keeps running after 340k miles, paid in cash, no issues at all.
Just picked up my sel with everything AWD it's very nice and comfortable picked up groceries half in the storage compartment and half in the bed wonderful, I am keeping my 2005 F-150 stx 4.6 for the heavy stuff,
I just bought my second Santa Cruz...30k on the 22, sold it. Bought a 24 Sel/sunroof/awd... everybody stares at it, get 27=32 mpg...great in snow in my mountains, very quiet and smooth. If it has a bed, it's a TRUCK!!! The tonneau cover limits load, but you know when you buy it what you're getting.
This channel is incredible. I need to see: - Nissan Frontier PRO-4X - Ford Maverick (FX4 and/or Tremor would be great) - Ford Ranger - Chevy Colorado In the market for either a midsize or compact truck.
Anotherrrrrr…….interesting video as always! Keep up the heat shield details and muffler comments. That really does show you what your buying. Thank you.
I might consider one of these in a few years where I can grab one used with scratched up paint everywhere. I can then paint it a funky color have some fun with it.
I have the '22 Santa Cruz non turbo and it's enough truck for what I need and to keep my Venza hybrid clean from all of my kid's activities. The only thing I hate about the Santa Cruz is no storage space in the front seat, back seat or the trunk. I fixed that by going to Track Supply Company and bought a Poly Storage box and drilled holes and used long eye bolts to the screw into the pre-drilled holes. Just wished there was bigger holes to put regular sized water bottles or big drinks on the door or in the cup holder. It's very reliable and very good gas mileage (average 30 MPG going from LA to PHO using cruise control).
Great video. I have been looking at one of these for a while now but the DCT transmission was the only thing keeping from pulling the trigger. A traditional torque converter would have been a much better option instead of a clutch that is slowly wearing down every time it is engaged/disengaged. Its not a matter of if the clutch will fail but when.
I've had this for a year now. This is the most accurate review I've seen. While I love the safety tech, my transmission failed at 4k miles. The most herky jerky transmission I've ever had in a vehicle. Overall I wish I would have kept my 2017 Ridgeline. It's just a tad bit roomier in all the most important places with a smooth transmission and stable V6. Hyundai made some dumb decisions with this vehicle.
The DCT gearbox is a dum idea and problamatic. In Australia they put the DCT in the diesel Santa fe. They have a great 8 speed auto that is in the 3.5 litre petrol Santa fe version. A great gearbox.
i am old, 68. because i am still young at heart, i want performence. because i had two hip operations, i have problems climbing up into even a mid size truck. because i do still play in a rockband, i am hauling my gear around. love my Georgette.
The reason for the "large" rear shocks is because it has self leveling rear suspension - loaded up with things like bags of mulch the bed doesn't droop like the F-150 I had which was replaced by my '22 Santa Cruz Limited. Great overall review! I would point out that many SC owners with the DCT are reporting issues - Hyundai has been pretty cagey about the recall and fix. I had mine it for the "drivability" recall and much preferred the way it drove before the update was done (and that was months ago so it's not a relearn drive it some and it'll get better issue). I'm on the fence as to if I'll have the recall done (scheduled for next week) - I've heard reports of the truck "bricking" itself after it's been "updated" and requiring a new transmission. Honestly, even with all the concerns it's been GREAT and I have no regrets in replacing my 2018 F-150 XLT 5.0l with this. By the way - I call it a "SUV Car Truck Thing" - I've only gotten a few weird looks from "truck people" - most (even in HD trucks like 2500 and F-250) seem to like it after they look at it. If you need a truck then buy a "real" truck if you need a truck bed occasionally then this or the Maverick works well!
Just took an 1800 mile road trip with our 2022 SEL and it was flawless. Wonderful truck. Quiet, smooth, and fun to drive. At age 71 , it is my first new vehicle.
Congrats Larry 👌
Yes I have a 22 sel activity, and I took a 2000 mile road trip and it was perfect. Same as you. Quiet and smooth!! 👍👍 love my Cruz
So happy for you! Congratulations, I got one too.
Congratulations on your first vehicle
56 year old shopper here and I've been having an ear out for what trouble they run into as they break in. Very helpful to hear they can be berable for long travel.
It’s for those light duty everyday things. They’re just for those occasional bulky items that you just can’t fit in certain vehicles at a certain price points. One should never set their expectations at an unreasonable level here. It is a decent reasonable vehicle. If you want a full fledged truck then you buy one of those and be done with it.
I’m a truck guy and have been for 4 decades.
I just bought a 2024 XRT 2.5T Santa Cruz. I love the fuel mileage, power and the ability to throw some stuff in the back.
It’s my light truck and then I have my diesel when I need to actually pull
That's the way to do it.
Finally a big truck person who can appreciates what this vehicle for what it is and can do! To many big truck guys poop on this and maverick when in fact these vehicles are surprisingly very capable!
@@richardkusimenkah I use my Santa Cruz as a daily driver. I love the snappy little turbo under the hood of this little beast
Watch your battery. Mine has been treated like a baby. I’ve been through 4 batteries in as many months. Something is draining it and the service department can’t figure out what the problem is. Got a trickle charger . Battery still won’t hold charge ..
After having watched literally hundreds of auto vids in the last few months, this is by far the best one. Great to get the perspective of a mechanic - someone who will talk about potential issues that most other reviewers don't touch on. Very interesting about the higher trims and DCT transmissions. Went to an auto show yesterday and really liked the Santa Cruz. The good and the bad about the vehicle were clearly explained in this video. Definite thumbs up and subscription for this!
Did you buy a Santa Cruz after all your research? I'm asking because I'm considering the Santa Cruz after months of research and this vehicle fits the bill.
@@strongislandautoenthusiast841It is a great vehicle, just get the non-turbo with the 8-speed. More dependable and it has enough power for your daily tasks
@@giovanninegron4992 Thank you for sharing your personal experience with the Santa Cruz
You nailed it when describing the target buyer. I love my Santa Cruz because it fits in city spaces much easier than a “real truck,” drives like a car/suv, and hauls what I need it to haul ( garden supplies, the occasional piece of furniture or appliance, and rec gear). Perfect for my urban needs.
yea no need to hit a curb in those sharp turns into grocery lots or need to worry about the length of your bed hitting a tail light when backing out a parking space, and no blind spots!
aside from the dct eating itself in stop and go urban roads
I got my '22 Santa Cruz SEL since they first came out, and I love it. I personally don't need the Turbo, or any of the fancy bells and whistles. It's not a truck, but it's "truck-enough" for my practical usage. Since ownership, I have been averaging 32mpg as well.
I bought the 2022 SEL AWD 2.5 NA for $29.5k over a year ago. Bought 18 " blizzaks for winter and Falken Wildpeak A/T for summer. Bought a soft tonneau cover and class III hitch. Love it! 30+ mpg and it exactly what I was looking for
Thanks for sharing! Definitely interested in the mileage and utility of it without the price of a “real truck.” Only wish is there was a hybrid option like the Ford Maverick. But from what you’re experiencing it may not be necessary.
I'm in the market. Its between this and the Maverick. Because of price I like base (non turbo no DCT). Anyone know the tow capacity? Online you can price it with AWD so I'm assuming that is an option on the low trim.
@@tonyk438 Gandering at the owner's manual for the 2023 year model, the only way you would obtain a 5000 lbs payload capacity is with a turbo, AWD, and 2 occupants. Anything else will only do 3500 lbs.
If anything, it should have no problem with things like small-ish boats, open trailer bed, another vehicle, an RV (small, travel, pop-up), a loaded 12' Uhaul cargo trailer.
@Dustin Holub Thanks! I'm looking at a Scamp trailer. Gotta figure out if 3500 would work. Maverick can do 4k. I really need to talk to Scamp manufacturer to find out I think.
Like others have said, I never thought I would own a Hyundai and this Santa Cruz filled a gap that I needed in having a small truck. I own a '19 Ram 3500 Dually and to take that to haul the things I need to haul is a major event as I would have to remove my 5th wheel hitch and I still only have 5ft of bed since I have an aux fuel tank. This Santa Cruz is EXACTLY what I was looking for in a small truck and I looked at them all. The styling and features, the smoooooth ride and power sold me on the Santa Cruz. I traded in a Mercedes for this truck and couldn't be happier, this has way more features than my 2020 Mercedes had. Even though this reviewer doesn't like the DCT transmission, I have a crazy Hyundai warranty that says I won't have to worry about it for a really long time!! The mileage is great and the truck turns heads everywhere I go and I'm sure I am the only one who has one in my town!!
this is a real car review, not the frou-frou fluff that mainstream utubers offer up. subscribed.
I just got my 2024 Santa Cruz Limited! It’s perfect! Plenty of power, great sound system, plenty of tech! I’m extremely pleased! Never thought I would own a Hyundai as pleasing as this Santa Cruz!
This is for me: a guy who is going to live in the city, and needs something comfortable, nimble and gas efficient enough for commutes and day-to-day, but also likes to go hunting once in a while or has a need to haul things or tow a trailer with a motorcycle on it.
I have 13k on my turbo santa cruz with many upgrades making close to 400hp and havent had issues yet. Hyundai has stated they will replace transmissions with recalls with a loner car if ever afflicted (early models mine included... its an issue with the high pressure pump and not the transmission itself. I am an ASE Certified mechanic and shop manager) I do agree with many points expecially the exhaust bits. Brakes are plenty efficient. Suspension is great for what it is. Performance for what the vehicle is far beyond competitors. 0 to 60 times in the turbo version is a bit ridiculous for what the vehicle is.
Great input
Thx
Any links to what you did for the hp increase I myself have the same model for a month now n love it
Does it have true dual exhaust on it?
I passed on a great deal today for a Limited ‘24 because I wanted to wait for the next gen. But it’s tempting not to. Coming with a 2017 Audi S5 the turbos are the one. Only somewhat concerned about what I’m hearing with the DCT.
@@kt9495 So I have the trasmission with the recall in 2022. I am Highly modified and the transmission is great. The recall is only on the high flow oil pump. If it fails. New transmission under warranty regardless of mods due to the recall.
With the corrected oil pump on the 2023s and up... the transmission can easily handle 400+ AWHP. Keep in mind... this is not a dry dct. It is a wet DCT. Wet DCTs are what they use in bugatti, paganni, ferrari. Hell half the super cars out there use wet dct transmissions. Most cheaper cars use dry dct. This is the reason for shift farts vs smooth shifts. The Santa Cruz has wet dct for many reasons but Hyundai is using their lines to experiment for their Genesis line.
My Santa Cruz runs sub 5 second 0 to 60 times (again highly modified with mostly custom parts) and can easily beat any wrx (bolt ons or not... with tuner or not)... roll raced a 500whp 2003 rustang on the highway from 50 to 120... walked like a dog in the park. Beat a tesla model 3 from a dig to 60.
So from a highly modified view with the troubled transmission to a potential buyer of a 2023 or later stock reliability standpoint... i have 25k miles on my car now. With over 10k miles of harsh driving with way more power and still holding up... Id say the rumors... although true.. are very far between. (I say this now and my tranny blows tomorrow! Hahahaha! Wouldnt that be funny... for all but me. Lol!) But yeah... no problems for me on a modified 2022.
The large rear shocks are for the passive self leveling system that comes on all trims. As the suspension moves, the shocks adjust to keep the bed level. It works very well.
Nice explanation.....thanks!!!
Auto leveling for weight on the rear axle or what? If so how is it compare to air suspension?
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 These have fairly decent towing capacity, so it you're pulling a trailer (or a small camper) those rear struts are going to help level out that weight on the rear end.
Was shocked he missed that.
@@itsmemickey7541I wasn't at all.
Well, you are right, I am not a truck guy, I just need a bed to haul stuff some times.
I bought a 2024 Santa Cruz Limited! It’s perfect for what I need it for small truck and nice daily driver. Also has 5000lb towing.
I compared the Ridgeline to the Santa Cruz extensively before finally deciding on the Ridgeline. Yep, the DCT was a major deciding factor. I tow a motorcycle trailer around 3,500 pounds, and I don't need that DCT to go out on me. The rear seat of the Ridgeline is much more usable and can carry actual passengers. The bed size is obvious. The resale value of the Santa Cruz is dismal compared to the Ridgeline. BUT, the Santa Cruz LOOKS AWSOME!
AMD, thank you for all that you are doing! Yes, may the Lord bless you and keep you and your family
I believe all 2nd Gen. RLs have DCTs. Honda automatic transmissions give out mostly in the heavier V6 models… like the RL or the Odyssey. Their 4-cyl. manual transmissions lasted forever back in the day. I have a 2019 RL, and it’s a DCT.
You can get the santa cruz with a normal 8 speed torque converter that works fine, unfortunately you can't have both the turbo and the traditional torque converter since the turbos all have dct I believe, big blunder in my book.
@@TrilithiumBanditKelsey You may want to look at your owner's manual...you have a 9 speed automatic
In my head you are correct that the RL is the better truckle. But the Hyundai is a looker where the Honda is pretty far over on the dull scale. And vehicles for a anyone enthusiastic about cars is more often than not a passion purchase.
@@Foxtrot_WoofYup…you’re right. Wife drove RL & immediately found it to be a bit of a sloth🦥 (nothing against sloths per se)
I do not recommend to purchase a Hyundai Santa Fe. I just had mine replaced the transmission at 2000 miles. They also have replaced the transmission computer and it still continues to have issues I found out that all of the dual clutch transmissions. have the same issues and they cannot figure out the problem
This is the best Santa Cruz video on youtube. Thanks for making it.
Sidenote, it just so happens that the bed features specifically the cover and the somewhat hidden trunk storage are what ultimately sold me on seriously considering the Santa Cruz which we ended up buying. Without the integrated bed cover I doubt I would’ve even bought this because I think it makes the bed so much more usable on a day-to-day basis, secure storage out of sight not having to worry about it etc. since I wasn’t trying to buy a truck, the amount of open bed space was not a huge concern to me. So if you’re in the same situation as me when you’re comparing prices you gotta include that really nice bed cover when you’re looking at the price of for example a maverick or a Honda or even a Toyota. those things cost 3k +
You're thoughts are similar to mine.... thanks for the input!!
And, you can add a bed extender for less than $200 to make the bed functionally similar in size to larger beds...
The bed cover is what I love...
I'm back and forth about how much truck I want and need a comfortable daily driver too. I go camping and need more volume for gear and cooler than a hatchback provides. I also do beekeeping. It's currently between a used Subaru of some flavor and this Hyundai with the bed cover. But I'm the odd duck that wants no turbo, no DCT trouble as I take the unpaved roads in state parks, a tow hitch, the tonnau cover, leather-ette seats and fitted cabin liners. I'm feeling dealership won't want to make up a special low-ball priced package for me. The sales guy won't be interested in me and my piddly pocket book.
I'm picturing the closest thing to my 1999 Sportage with leather-ett seats in this dream SC. I start to see why I keep thinking about the SC. It's very like a roof-less Sportage of that very wide and open design of the time. I hauled so much in that SUV! If the SC could drive and take corners like my Nissan NX2000 did, it would be my dream car for sure.
The "I will self destruct in time transmission..." BEST LINE EVER
I have a velozter can’t find a place to fix the transmission is a nightmare. Dual clutch transmission are the worse thing ever.
My Veloster blew up.
My normally aspirated CRUZ has been awesome. Carries a tone of stuff and it tows well too.
36,000 miles in. Most impressive is the quality of steel used and paint finish.
It doesn’t have the DCT, right?
Best review I've seen so far of the Santa Cruz, thanks for your honest insight and observations! I bought a Santa Cruz new last month and I agree with almost all of your opinions here, love that you really explore every feature with a real-world lense and hit mechanical aspects as well.
26:07 Til the end of the video is very true. I bought my 23 SC Limited in January over a fully loaded Frontier. The main reasons?
-Ride quality and interior comfort (it handles the road like a Lexus and is surprisingly quiet!)
-Plenty of power (2.5 Turbo)
-Excellent in light snow even on the factory Michelins
-I dont tow anything.. (but the option is there with the SC)
-Throw a lawn mower... mulch bags... golf clubs.... outdoors gear etc in the truck bed outside of cabin!
-Under bed storage for ice/drinks/anything you want that locks. The bed cover and tailgate even locks to keep everything secure.
All for less than 42k January 2023.
Highly recommend giving one a test drive. I have also driven a loaded 22 Ridgeline and it was giant in comparison around town... not to mention the ride quality was better in the Hyundai which is really surprising.
Great review, have a 23 SEL and love it. Plenty of power with the NA engine. Very comfortable and practical and so much more functional than an SUV for carrying stuff around.
I have the 2024 Santa Cruz SEL with the 2.5 N/A engine. I get tired of these reviews with these guys running the turbo engines saying the naturally asperated engine is so under powered. I bet most of those idiots have never driven one to know anything about it. And since you can only get the DCT trans in the turbo model that makes it a no sale to me as the DCT's are junk. My wife and I both love our little truck and if we need a bigger truck we have our F-150 XLT Sport with a tuned 5.0 if need more power.
@darrellnewbury5051 Your comment is use helpful. I'm in the market now for the santa cruz. Been leaning on the non turbo/DCT. Test drove the non turbo and seemed fine.
We got the 2023 Limited. Love it so far. This is our "road trip" vehicle. It will suit our travelling needs just fine. Thanks for the review, and I'll keep my eyes open for the items you discussed.
Stumbled on to your vehicle reviews. Love the mechanic angle/approach where you thoroughly cover the pluses and minuses of the engine and drivetrain in particular and the expert knowledge you share. Everyone seems to speak to the styling and infotainment features. Your honest insights and where you speak to the down-the-road reliability of the engineering are refreshing. Bravo, bravo!
Enough with the truck concern. The vehicle is for a car like ride with the ability to keep sports equipment on the outside. I carry a lot of gear that ends up wet or dirty at the end of the activity. This can be hosed out. That’s it.
The Santa Cruz I own, Turbo tricked out at 24,000 miles that transmission is going out.
The door seal around the drivers door had to be replaced the 1st time at 6,000mi. This because a tall person 6"+, rubs their butt across the door seal upon entry. Door seals are not warranty items, even with the upgraded warranty.
I've driven dozens of cars including the Ford Focus to the BMW 5-series over my lifetime including several trucks like the Chevy S-10 or Ram 1500. I can honestly say that, so far, Santa Cruz gave me the biggest satisfaction of ownership. With other vehicles, it's about getting from point A to point B or what kind of premium options I can enjoy. With SC possibility is wide open. In fact, I usually buy vehicles with full option. But with SC, I just bought base SEL AWD and am quite happy with it.
Same here I've had Cadillac, Ford, Dodge, Chrysler, Jeep never would've thought a Hyundai would've been my favorite to drive out of all them.
Thanks for making another great idepth review! As I continue my search for a new ride, I ALWAYS find yours MOST helpful... Gid bless you and your family
@@floydgungl916His reviews are top notch
I bought one of those 2023 sand color Santa Cruz SE with tow package 34k miles for $21.900k 😁
Love the diagrams and outlines to help highlight what you're talking about, these reviews just keep improving.
This is my default channel when it comes to cars.
I think the large shock in the back is a load leveling device not just a shock. That is why it is so large.
This guy should do some vehicle research before doing a review. Makes him look like he doesn't know what he's talking about.
We just got a 2024 Limited for my wife. It is absolutely amazing to drive and the mileage is great. I have a 2019 GMC Sierra with the 12,200 lb tow package so we didn’t need another truck. I like the looks of it inside and out. Mileage is almost 31 on the interstate and should get better once it gets some miles on it. It is quite fast off the line. It is just fun. I did purchase the full 100,000 mile warranty.
It’s also very quiet inside at interstate speeds.
I would be delighted to see your review of this car, particularly the 2025 model, as I understand there have been some quality upgrades.
I have a 2023 SC Limited. I do like it quite a bit, But I think the best way to summarize it is a car with a lot of great ideas behind it but also with a lot of compromises. The car for it's price point is pretty feature rich, but is missing:
- A HUD
- Memory seats
- Power Passenger seat
- Rear center arm rest
- Usable rear storage
- Any kind of practicality to the rear glass window
Also, while the outlet in the bed is nice, Hyundai just kind of threw it in there because other trucks have it. It's power draw is actually the same as a cigarette outlet, so you can't actually use it for anything other than like, charging a phone. No tools, no big radio, no generator, no small cooking appliances for camping, etc. You'd be hard pressed to even charge something like a laptop.
Another thing is the bed lights only come on with a switch by the driver side foot well, or when the storage bin is open. So if you tend to keep you cover closed, you have to constantly make sure to hit the button to see anything.
My last big gripe is the headlights and radar on the limited. He already mentioned in the video about the headlights getting covered in snow. Its 100% true. The bottom of the car just eats up all that shit on the road and it gets stuck there. That also affects the front camera/radar which affects cruise control and forward collision assist. The front radar is so bad with weather I've already had it deactivate from just moderate rain, let alone snow.
It rides super nice. Handles like an SUV so its super smooth. The AWD handles great in inclement weather. And the fuel economy is pretty good. I think eventually though I'd like to swap to a fully loaded Tacoma or Tundra with the hybrid engine. Still get decent mpgs but also get all the truck stuff with out compromises.
And no USB-C style plugs in the cabin...fail!
I transport up to three foster dogs along with my two on a regular basis. A manual passenger seat is a plus because it moves forward so much faster than a power seat.
I bought a 23 Limited specifically because it wasn't a "real" truck. Just as you said at the end, I wanted it for some truck utility but for the most part I want a nice comfortable daily driver. Also, unlike the Maverick, the SC isn't trying to look like a truck and I love the way mine looks.
Good points!
I've often wondered about this vehicle. All my questions were answered with this very well done evaluation. Thanks for your expertise.
The only car review youtube page I watch. My guy here actually reviews the car instead of just reading off a tech spec sheet and describing the interior.
This is by far the best car review channel on TH-cam. Thanks for doing these reviews in depth. Love how you don’t compromise and roast what needs to be roasted. Will you ever do one of a Subaru Outback wilderness?? I’d love to see that review!
Agreed. It combines wholehearted good intentions with fair minded analysis. It's a model I try to apply in my work.
Amazed CCN only has 38k subscribers. Should be 4mil.
CCN does a good job... though he does seem to nit pick on non Toyotas, and sorta give a Toyota a pass when stuff is cheap. Like the exhaust and sound proofing comments.
Check out Alex on Autos also.. he does not tend to roast cars.. but concentrates on the facts, figures and dimensions and features.. and compares similar cars against each other.. does road testing.. 0-60, noise, ride, MPG etc. Hes been around a while.
@@kens97sto171 he gave the Mazda CX-5 a pretty good review I felt.
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I'm not saying he doesn't do good reviews. And I definitely respect his mechanical ability. I've learned a lot by watching his videos.
A little bit harsh sometimes on non Toyota vehicles.
For example in this particular video you mentioned the lack of any cladding underneath the car or the exhaust and drive shaft were. Saying he thought there should be sound deadening material there or something. And yet he also commented that the car was extremely quiet while driving on the highway. Maybe that's why her day didn't put sound deadening material there because it wasn't necessary.
Toyota does plenty of dumb stuff mechanically with their cars too.
Different manufacturers seem to do different dumb stuff though lol.
AMD is a true gentleman. I wouldn’t have been so kind to Hyundai or Kia
AMD is a better man than me!
It’s certainly not for everyone. And I agree it’s definitely not a truck. I bought mine specifically because I was not looking for a truck. Just a capable vehicle with good gas mileage for two adults that had some capabilities to carry larger items occasionally but yet drove comfortably and was fun to drive. The limited trim came with some great tech features many of which I wasn’t sure I cared about that much, but now I love them including the lane changing cameras and all the other comfort and convenience tech. I love driving my limited because it feels like more of a sport sedan. it’s quick and powerful and smooth and the transmission works great at least for street driving. if you’re considering one of these make sure you understand that it is not a Jeep or some off-road machine. While I think it has some design elements that make it look mean and tough and it has a really great looking stance, it’s actually a pussycat underneath. Well something in between a pussycat and a cheetah. 😂
How much gas mileage (MPG) do you get and what’s the range? I’m a big dude 6’5 (300lbs) so trucks are definitely something I want to invest in. But gas ain’t cheap in Texas anymore. I heard it’s between 21-27 MPG?
The Santa Cruz NOT being a truck is the appeal to me.
Independent rear suspension and a unibody are much more preferable to me than body on frame construction and a live axle that I don't need.
Why didn’t you get the maverick instead?
@@curtismaloney7188 Styling.
There's nothing wrong with the Maverick - I like them, but it's not a vehicle that I'd really be into looks wise - and if I'm not into the look of a particular vehicle, I won't own it.
I have a 2018 Tucson and looking for a new car, love this design, thank your for your honest opinion Elessar!!
Had a 2016 Hyundai Tucson with the dodgy theta II engine. Had to practically give it away because it was burning so much oil that it clogged the CAT - Because there were no engine codes yet, hyundai refused to replace the engine free. Even though it's a WELL-known issue that they even settled lawsuits over. I know a lady with exact same vehicle but because her engine started knocking, she had to get her engine replaced...around the same time mine was being looked at - Local Hyundai dealer acted like they never heard of this issue...as they did with mine. Another friend has a 2016 Kia Optima (same engine as mine) which also died on him for same reason. He had to try several Kia dealerships before they fixed it free. Even after being fixed, all he was offered on trade-in was $3,000 - should be about $10,000.
Also there is the guy in Eastern Canada with an almost new Hyundai Ioniq 5 which they quoted $65,000 to replace his dented battery....$65,000 is the price of a new Ioniq 5 - Even with the media involved they only offered to drop the quote by a couple of thousand.
I will NEVERRRRR buy another Hyundai or Kia, or even buy a used car from a Hyundai or Kia dealership. The way I view it, they lost me at least $7,000 straight out of my pocket.
Love my SC with the turbo. The sweet spot for these seems to be the middle trims. At the low trim, you should really look at the Maverick for lower entry cost. At the high trim you should be looking at the Ridgeline or something else more capable. I am basically the target demographic so it fits me perfectly - a small town/rural suburban homeowner with messy hobbies that often has to park in a parking garage for work or in small city visits. I do dump runs every couple of weeks, take my mountain bike out, need to bring landscape or yardwork materials home through the spring and summer, have lowes or home depot lumber runs, etc. This thing covers all that kind of stuff without the thousand dollars extra in gas each year and dealing with a bigger vehicle that I would get with a midsize or full size truck.
Your nitpicks are pretty accurate though, that go pro fender thing was a very half-assed gimmick and the tonneau should have strictly been an extra you can add on to any trim, not included. It is well built and pretty rugged, but it eats up almost a foot of bed depth for large objects and is a pain to remove or install (from my understanding, I haven't tried yet).
I hope you got lot of money and paid cash for a disposable truck...I mean a turbo on a Hyundai Engine???? that's bollocks
ford is having all sorts of reliability problems--I have owned a stinger and now a Kona N and have had no problems with either and I have gone to public drag night with them--
@@JPisTheWord Bro why are you so nasty to people who owns a vehicle that isn't a toyota or a Honda?
@@JPisTheWord ....... the turbo engine option on the top version of this vehicle increasing the towing power from est. 3500 # tp 5000#.....there are some independant videos online that compare the two engines...and how the vehicle performance compares to the smaller pickup trucks......Santa Cruz was pretty darned capable in towing power comparisons.
Your description of your use of the vehicle is similar to mine. Thanks for your input.
You're one of the only mechanics/reviewers that gets into the details about the engine and transmission which is what I most want to hear. Car manufacturers don't explain half as much these days as they used to and salespeople almost never know these details. I also appreciate your common sense observations and opinions. You usually confirm what I was already thinking, but you say it in a nicer way! 😉
The large rear shocks on the Santa Cruz are mono tube automatic self leveling ride control units. They work great and are a valuable feature for carrying a heavy payload without bottoming out. Better payload than the 2017 Tacoma Off Road Double Cab Long Bed 4x4 that I had for 5 years.
Tacoma DCLB 4x4 payload-about 950 pounds.
Santa Cruz payload-1,400 pounds with better ride and handling.
The Santa Cruz plastic pieces on the leading edges of suspension components is a nice feature. It keeps those steel pieces from becoming gravel, sand blasted and rusted out over time. Something that happens to the rear shocks and suspension when you drive on graveled and sanded snow covered highways or graveled country roads on property.
The Santa Cruz weighs about 4,100 pounds. It's built pretty stout. As a small vehicle, it's only a few hundred pounds lighter than a larger Tacoma 4x4 Double Cab Long Bed 4x4.
The tonneau will get in the way for carrying motorcycles or long sofas.
The tonneau cover works fine and doesn't get in the way if you're carrying 8 ft lumber, fence posts and boards or any other yard construction or landscape materials.
But a Tacoma, will last 3x miles than a Santa Cruz if properly taken care of
I bought my '24 XRT after watching the review, and I absolutely love it. It drives so comfortably, my wife loves being a passenger princess in it. I'm not hauling anything crazy, but it's doing great for my kayaks and I love that I don't have to put it on the roof rack anymore. All in all it was worth the money, if you can find a certified pre owned model for a good price like I did (5k miles for 31k - scooooore!) I would say don't even hesitate and do it. They're wonderful
I just got the 2023 sel Activity. And damn this is literally my perfect vehicle so far. I don't need a full pickup but need a small bed for my creative lifestyle. I think the SEL and SEL activity is a great deal depending on what you want.
All my vehicles have been trucks but my first. I like my santa cruz. It fits in my garage and just great for hauling plywood etc. The 2.5 turbo has giving up to 30 mpg. Love the extra power and the comfort of it interior. I also love driving it.
The 10 year/100,000 miles is a great selling point, but as many have stated, it’s all about whether they will do the warranty work. Genesis should have their own dealerships, not in the same building as Hyundai and Kia. We looked into Genesis as well, but steered toward Lexus due to more positive dealership experience. YMMV.
Hyundai wont fix or replace the transmission on my NEW Santa Cruz. 7 months old, 7,000 miles. DO NOT TRUST HYUNDAI
@@cmscms123456 FAKE NEWS TROLL.
@@cmscms123456 quit trolling. The bumper to bumper warranty would cover this......unless you did something to void it
@@cmscms123456 yeah thats exactly right.
mechanic dude at hyundai dealership once told me similar story.
and the owner drives lexus. 😂😂
@@moondog3056 Crushed that trans off roading I suspect.
Just traded my four month old 2024 Ford Maverick Lariat Tremor for a Hyundai Santa Cruz SEL for the following reasons.(1) The Maverick had a plastic gas pedal that was suspended from the top. My foot had slid off dozens of times or more because the pedal didn't come down far enough. Buy the time I missed the pedal and hit the brake I had come close to hitting two parked cars pulling in and hit a taller concrete stop. I even added covers to the pedals with rubber strips and still had the problem. I felt it should be a recall. Both Hyundai's have the gas pedal attached at the bottom and there is never the fear factor. (2) I had the rotary dial transmission shifter and could never get use to it. I had to take my time shifting and in a panic situation I just couldn't react fast enough. (3) The seats were the synthetic A-Active leather and their was an outline of something that ended up being the flap on my cargo pants. 1/8 inch deep and was in in the seat for one month before I took it to the dealer and the service manager said they wouldn't replace it. He took a picture of pants and impressed leather and I have heard nothing back form him in almost two months. So for everyone on the Maverick Forums who thinks Ford has a 36 month bumper to bumper warranty. They don't. I was told by people that Ford does not back their products. I had the turbo and was getting 19 miles per gallon in the city. The 450 horsepower Mustang GT that I traded in was getting 17 in town. Plus the Santa Cruz is Direct and Multi-Port fuel injection. The Maverick was only Direct Injection and would need the valves cleaned as an extra expensive scheduled maintenance item. The interior in the Santa Cuz is extremely nice compared. I have owned 10 Hondas and switched to Hyundai back in 1995. I have a 2020 Hyundai Sana Fe and it was one of my favorite vehicles out of the 59 I have owned in my lifetime.
Just bought one of these, and I'm the buyer you mentioned at the end of the video. It drives like a car, fits in my garage, but I chose it over a RAV4 because I need an open bed. I really hope Toyota comes out with a competitor so I can come back home! Really liked the review.
Santa Cruz over a Rav4???🤦♂
@@JPisTheWord he needs a small open bed .
@@JPisTheWordAnd?
@@JPisTheWordwhy not? He/she mentioned open bed. That's the requirement. Rav4 can't do that.
@@jmartyt9810 Just throw it in the back of a RAV4. I’ve carried rocks and dirt in my RAV4. It’s suspension is super stiff and sags less than half tons. Pickups and sedans are useless vehicles.
My only problem with this thing is the bed seems a bit too short. Instead of having that bed cover, they should’ve made the back wall collapsible so that the bed extends into the back seats.
I own a SC and I agree with your statement. Although I do like the sliding bed cover they could’ve made it lighter and easy to remove then with pass-through fold-down rear seats few could reasonably complain about the bed length.
I miss our Chevrolet Avalanche too
No then it be a deal leaking rattle trap aka avalanche
It's for someone like ME, who really appreciated the 80s-vintage mini-trucks and considers the Colorado and larger as simply too large--as I call them, "Road Whales™" In fact, I traded a Colorado to get this.
Hate on the DCT all you want, it's the slickest shifting manual transmission you can get in a "truck" and I love it. The only place it loses anything to a slushy torque converted auto is crawling from a stop. Because, yeah, it's a manual transmission, automatically shifted. This was EXACTLY the vehicle I had been waiting for. I don't need a 6.5 or 8 foot bed - but I need a bed to haul stuff once in a while. It seals up all of our luggage on vacation in a locked bed with the tonneau. And I use it to commute 200km each day, five days a week. In 17+ months with it, and over 58,000km, it has been flawless - and I NEVER feel like I'm driving a truck. I've put in 16 hour days on the road in it - and was never uncomfortable or felt road weary at the end of it.
Is it for everyone? Heck no! Absolutely not! If you want a "real truck" don't even look at it. I've driven trucks. I still have a 97 full size Sierra in the driveway ... which hasn't moved almost at all since the Cruz arrived. Got nothing against trucks. I just hate how excessively HUGE they've all become. I wanted small, this is small. It was between this and the Maverick for me, and the Maverick is ... uninspiring. A fine little "truck" and all, but it sure doesn't turn heads driving down the street like this does. Heck, filling up with gas tonight, the poor guy behind the register was distracted from ringing me up because he was too busy staring at and asking me about my Santa Cruz. After almost a year and a half with it I STILL get stopped regularly by people asking it or looking at it. Last summer I had a guy (driving a Tacoma) stop in front of my house and knock on the door to ask about it and look at it.
This thing makes a statement. Not everyone is going to like it, and that's fine with me. I don't want to walk into a parking lot and have to try to figure out which one of the 23 trucks of the same model AND colour is mine. There are currently only two others in my town, and we all have different colours. Met both of the owners, very nice folks and all love their little trucklet a lot.
But as for "should you buy it?" Only if you want one. I did. I pre-ordered the Ultimate (Limited in US). ZERO regrets. :)
This is the best overall review of the Santa Cruz. I really enjoyed your under the chassis insight which was the only one of its kind I've seen so far. Your insights on the engine design were also excellent and the only one I've seen before. I really enjoy how you not only review how the vehicle looks but your comments on build quality are very insightful. One of your best reviews yet. Thank you for the excellent reivew.
12:32 the "massive" rear shocks are because they are self-leveling shocks on the rear to keep the headlights properly aligned when carrying weight in the bed/towing.
Exactly....how did he miss that feature, as a mechanic no less.....
@@wolfman_jack it's an honest oversight. It's not like this is his vehicle, it's a press vehicle. And if he missed that one line on the spec sheet, it would seem just from appearance like they installed massive shocks in the rear, since they don't have air lines sticking out or any other obvious giveaway that they're self-leveling, as they are a fully integrated hydraulic design which requires no external components to function.
@@bjn714 I can give him that leeway, as you note - just missing that "one line"....
Nice review. I have the SEL with Activity Package. It is exactly what I needed and wanted. Highway mileage is getting 34 mpg. Great ride. Quite and comfortable. Two things I don't think you hit on were 1400 pound payload and 3500 pound towing capacity.
So glad to hear that!!! That is exactly the combo l want to get for my next vehicle.....thanks for the input. Good to know you are getting better mileage than estimated.
I got the same trim. I love it...
Just thinking about this review and what I really need in a pick-up.
1.excellent reliability (what good is a pick-up without that?).
2. Great handing and road feel (a pickup that's an SUV is great for that) 99% of the time I'm on-road and the worst traction moments for me would be torrential rain or bad snow storm. An automatic traction system is best and safest instead of manually needing to switch to 4-hi or 4-low.
3. Some usable space (mid size works best with space for stuff and passengers)
4. Decent payload for the occasional used engine or trans. on a pallet. 1500lbs will do it.
5. Light to medium towing for moving the occasional small trailer full of furniture, 5000lbs max is fine.
6.quiet ride that's smooth when empty or loaded with a rear suspension that doesn't put me in a tree if I approach the exit too quickly (rear independent suspension is perfect for a street only non offroader).
I'll take a Ridgeline thankyou, now if only they would build a hybrid model with the Acua MDX Type S drivetrain. Sorry, I'm just dreaming. 😂🙏
I have a 2011 Ridgeline EX-L Navi… and I would like something smaller and better on gas, but the more reviews I watch, the more I appreciate my Ridgeline. It just keeps going and going …
I've had my 2023 Santa Cruz SEL purchased new in late 22'. So, almost 2 years. It's AWD and gets around great in the snow. I broke it in properly so it now gets about 5 mph higher than when it started (around 26mph overall). The bed is small but it works for me - especially with the Tonneau cover. No problems
Thanks for the honest review - the comparison of the two engines is especially helpful. I'm currently driving my wife's "old" 2007 Santa Fe with over 200,000 miles on it and it just won't quit, so we've been very impressed (I've owned other Hyundai's as well). The Santa Cruz would be for "retirement" and would possibly get used to pull a small camper, but I'm also a musician, and the lockable bed on these is perfect for hauling valuable music gear out of sight (and with plenty of room).
P.S. The Lord bless you as well!!!
You do phenomenal reviews. I have watched several of your Toyota/Lexus reviews and they are spot on and informative. I am so happy that I was not the only one concerned about a DCT in this vehicle. I went with a trim level that has all the options available without the DCT and Turbo engine. I wish it had the Turbo, but I can live with the lack of Power. The Santa Cruz has been a fantastic daily for my wife and fits our needs. Plus, it just looks pretty unique.
My dad and I were discussing engine choices. He wanted to have enough power without it feeling slow. He had a 1966 GTO back in the 70s. I compared my mom's 2019 Ram with the 395hp Hemi + 8spd and how he laughs at how silly it is with that much power. So, my point to him was: Do you really need a Turbo-charged 281hp and an 8spd in a smaller and 1000lbs lighter than my V8 Dakota (making ~240hp) with 100hp less than my mom's Ram? But what's the top speed of your mom's truck (limited 108mph, unlimited it could do 130mph+) is response: "OH, umm yeah smaller engine, cheaper insurance and less tickets."
The Hyundia Santa Cruz XRT is quirky but a great looking vehicle and reminds me of the Subaru Baja. I would love to see a second-generation Subaru Baja turbo model but the Santa Cruz is the next best thing. The Santa Cruz checks all the boxes for me, and I like the 100k factory warranty. On the turbo model Santa Cruz has anyone had any issues with the DCT transmission?
The THICK shocks are for electronically controlled self levelling, for example if you have 300 lbs of stuff in the bed lowering the rear, it will level the vehicle. They are not "Normal" shocks 😎
I was considering buying one of these and you had great information on this vehicle that the dealer dosen't really talk about or maybe dosen't know. I don't need a limited or turbo in small truck. The base model is all I need for daily driver. Great video !
True indeed!
Now THIS is a car review. With as much as manufacturers are asking for their vehicles now, buyers deserve to know absolutely everything before they buy.
I looked at it and finally decided on the hybrid Maverick because of the tremendous gas mileage
I got mine to daily commute 100 miles and occasionally have to haul something small. I own 2 full size trucks with V8s one is 4x4 also own a 4x4 Tahoe. I got the lower end Santa Cruz didnt need anything fancy just mpg and a small bed. Plus i like the way it looks.
Very honest review. One year in on my 22 SEL/Activity. Points U make at end are right on. 30 yr. Owner of compact and mid-sized PU’s. Great for hauling. Not so great when not hauling. The quiet and comfort of this ride when NOT hauling is a real treat. As a pro artist I most often need to haul large, but not weighty objects, and have developed various jigs and supports to accommodate - really because of the interference of the roll-up cover - but the convenience of that cover is otherwise irreplaceable. Conveniences and accessories far outstrip any of the PU’s I’ve owned, even though it’s missing a few of the limited’s goodies. Not a hot rod, but sufficient. Not an economy car, but OK. The only vehicle I have ever owned that my BMW-driving spouse has ever WANTED to ride in! Absolutely WORST thing about this trim is the gawd-awful headlights. Worse that any vehicle I have ever owned. Hyundai should be ashamed.
I own a 2022 SEL with Activity package and I would say that is the best option to get where you get a bit of both worlds. Having some of the bells and whistles of the higher trims with the tried-and-true engine of the lower one. A lot of the positives he mentioned on the interior and the bed are very true, and I live downtown in a major city, so the fact that it drives like an SUV and not a truck is CRUCIAL in stop-and-go, quick lane-switching, compact street parking environment. I'm also a DIYer and weekend adventurer, so I fall right into the demographic for this trucks market and it's been great for me so far! Helped people move and go on 4-person camping trips. Hoping for a hybrid/electric model in the future!
Always great to see an objective and honest review from an expert. Hopefully you can get a Maverick soon to compare. A Ranger/Tacoma/Frontier/Colorado would also be good to show the mechanical difference when you go to body on frame.
I tow my Veloster N to the track all summer on a dolly. 4000 lbs. No trailer brakes. No issues. My SC and my Veloster N have the exact same DCT. I would say between the towing and the track use, I've torture tested it two ways. The DCT is awesome on the track. The DCT in the SC behaves much better if you keep it in Sport mode. FWIW, the brakes on the N are single piston as well. I've never had any issues braking or any brake fade even after 20 minutes on track.
Most well rounded review ever. The last segment summary hits it on the nail.
this really is just a family car with a little more versatility that gets you a little bit of that truck life without having to buy a whole truck. I towed everything i own from maryland to texas when i moved and man what a clean ride. love the truck.
Cool, compact ute for running around town in right up until the warranty ends and the engine chugs oil or the transmission explodes. I'm glad to see these compact trucks coming back since full size and even mid size trucks are getting far to big and expensive for most people.
Is there a updated version of the 2024? I heard it improved a lot.
You nailed the demographic. I like the capability of throwing my mountain bike in the bed and still have the cab for people or stuff. I do lots of DIY stuff, and same thing, perfect for the occasional run to Lowe’s.
I’ve done 3x 1,400 mile and one 2,200 mile road trips in my SEL Premium, and it’s hard to beat. On the highway at 65-70, I can usually get 27-30mpg. I managed to get 415 miles on a tank before filling up and still had about an 1/8 left. For the record, my absolute best was over 38mpg, BUT that was “perfect” conditions (sea level, no traffic, 50mph, SMART mode, laser straight road).
I know the sliding cover does suck up a lot of room, BUT it’s really nice to throw a bunch of bags into and be able to lock up at night.
I’ve taken it up some decent backroads, and I think it does exactly what it needs to, which is get me to the adventure. That said, I have 17” black rhino wheels and some Falken wildpeaks on order for a bit extra.
Your criticisms are spot on though. The back seat is criminal, and the trims lower than the Limited DONT have USB or vents in the back. I added those little $6 fish-eye style stick-on mirrors to side mirrors though, and absolutely best $6 ever spent. The transmission worries me, mine was under the recall, and it sometimes makes some odd, jittery or stutter type feelings. BUT, 10yr/100k warranty, not my problem for a while. Though my 22 already had 27k miles.
Overall, I really don’t think any other vehicle competes in terms of sheer versatility. This car is a jack of all trades, and I will try to keep mine for as long as feasible.
"throwing my mountain bike in the bed" - do you have to leave the tailgate down Cory?
Austrailians had these all along and they love them
Totally agree with AMD's assessment...Nathan from TFL got a SEL with the non-turbo engine and 8 speed auto, and with knobs on the stereo and wireless Carplay/Android Auto. I think that would be the sweet spot, except for me the SEL with the Convenience Package for the moonroof would be ideal. The only thing missing from the SEL Premium & Limited trims, that I'd want honestly, are the LED headlights.
I have the non turbo SEL with the activity package. I put LED lights on myself with no problem. Love my SC. I'm a suburban homeowner and do it yourselfer. This car/truck is perfect for me. AND, I love the way it drives. Much more fun than my previous '15 Highlander.
I got the non-turbo SEL (without activity package) for the same reasons you outlined. Physical controls + gauges, heated seats, conveniences like lane shift warnings, remote start, etc. The only thing I wanted out of the activity package was the tonneau cover...but I wasn't willing to spend 3 grand to get that with all of the stuff I didnt want (like the moon roof, or sliding back window). I can always get a foldable tonneau cover later on for like 400 bucks.
I love the vehicle. The 191 HP is just fine on the base engine. I've had my SC since September 2022, and I still get compliments from random strangers when I take it into town. They have so many questions lol. Never got that in my previous vehicles.
Yes. 22 sel non turbo. 30mpg all the time. Palm Beach Florida
I seriously considered purchasing one of these. However, my biggest concern was the Hyundai engineering. I liked EVERYTHING else about it. However, I think that Hyundai engineering leaves a lot to be desired. If Toyota, Honda, Ford or even Mazda made this, I would have bought it. I also considered the Ford Maverick (hard to find); so, I ended up deciding upon a Mazda CX-30 two weeks ago. In the future, I might buy an updated version of this. It really is a good-looking vehicle.
But what do you mean by “engineering”? That’s a very general term that doesn’t mean anything. Is there anything specific about this vehicle that is bad? This guy doesn’t seem to think the engine is any less reliable than its counterparts.
@@jakexd5524 - "Engineering" means both design of the systems AND the materials used.
@@jakexd5524 it is less reliable, don't compare this to a mazda cause it's not in the same league lol
@@jakexd5524 Check out the warranty.
My wife and just bought a 2023 Santa Cruz and we absolutely love it! It's exactly what you said toward the end of your video... That's why we got it plus we got a lower-end model No crap transmission and Turbo.
I did a lot of research on the Maverick and I was not impressed.
Plus the vehicle is a different design from others. Like a Subi Brat on Steriods. 😂
Yes. You described my wants for my next vehicle. When I first saw it, I called it a SUV with a truck bed. Honestly I'm buying for the looks. I do not tow or haul so this sounds perfect. Thank you for 5he review
At 7:42 DCT = Destruction Clutch Transmission👍
The large back shocks are due to the Santa Cruz including a mechanical self leveling system for towing and/or heavy loads in the back. This feature alone puts even the entry level Santa Cruz SE above the competition...a 3500lb entry level tow rating vs Maverick at 2000 lbs also helps.
I bet they are very expensive to replace however
Best review. You are so detailed and easy to understand. 👍
I have owned several different manufacturers vehicles and all have had their share of issues. I currently have a 2024 limited and love it. Purchase what you like and enjoy life. It's truly short.
Just sold my 12 yrs old Tucson this morning. To my surprise, my check amounts to 29% of the price I paid when I brought it new. Not bad at all 🎉
Please tell that to everyone praising that piece of crap Hyundai product. Excellent point. Also, did you have any major issues with your Tacoma?
@@JPisTheWord toyota just had a recall on that POS tacoma. LMAO toyota ain't any better.
@@maga6319 Well of course, you gotta be really stupid to buy the Tacomas built in Mexico. I'll pass on that
@@JPisTheWord those are pos trucks. Why be bother about that?
@@maga6319 I am not bothered by any of those trucks. My SUV is very solid and running and keeps running after 340k miles, paid in cash, no issues at all.
Just picked up my sel with everything AWD it's very nice and comfortable picked up groceries half in the storage compartment and half in the bed wonderful, I am keeping my 2005 F-150 stx 4.6 for the heavy stuff,
I just bought my second Santa Cruz...30k on the 22, sold it. Bought a 24 Sel/sunroof/awd... everybody stares at it, get 27=32 mpg...great in snow in my mountains, very quiet and smooth. If it has a bed, it's a TRUCK!!! The tonneau cover limits load, but you know when you buy it what you're getting.
This channel is incredible.
I need to see:
- Nissan Frontier PRO-4X
- Ford Maverick (FX4 and/or Tremor would be great)
- Ford Ranger
- Chevy Colorado
In the market for either a midsize or compact truck.
Anotherrrrrr…….interesting video as always! Keep up the heat shield details and muffler comments. That really does show you what your buying. Thank you.
I'd love to see your review of the Ridgeline and your thoughts on its quality and features. Awesome review of the whole santa cruz
I might consider one of these in a few years where I can grab one used with scratched up paint everywhere. I can then paint it a funky color have some fun with it.
Not in a million years will I ever buy a Hyundai/Kia again after all the bull I had to go through with the recall on my mom's vehicle....
I have the '22 Santa Cruz non turbo and it's enough truck for what I need and to keep my Venza hybrid clean from all of my kid's activities. The only thing I hate about the Santa Cruz is no storage space in the front seat, back seat or the trunk. I fixed that by going to Track Supply Company and bought a Poly Storage box and drilled holes and used long eye bolts to the screw into the pre-drilled holes. Just wished there was bigger holes to put regular sized water bottles or big drinks on the door or in the cup holder.
It's very reliable and very good gas mileage (average 30 MPG going from LA to PHO using cruise control).
The oil cooler and the transmission choices were probably choices made to try to get to 5k tow rating.
Great video. I have been looking at one of these for a while now but the DCT transmission was the only thing keeping from pulling the trigger. A traditional torque converter would have been a much better option instead of a clutch that is slowly wearing down every time it is engaged/disengaged. Its not a matter of if the clutch will fail but when.
I've had this for a year now. This is the most accurate review I've seen. While I love the safety tech, my transmission failed at 4k miles. The most herky jerky transmission I've ever had in a vehicle. Overall I wish I would have kept my 2017 Ridgeline. It's just a tad bit roomier in all the most important places with a smooth transmission and stable V6. Hyundai made some dumb decisions with this vehicle.
The DCT gearbox is a dum idea and problamatic. In Australia they put the DCT in the diesel Santa fe. They have a great 8 speed auto that is in the 3.5 litre petrol Santa fe version. A great gearbox.
i am old, 68. because i am still young at heart, i want performence. because i had two hip operations, i have problems climbing up into even a mid size truck. because i do still play in a rockband, i am hauling my gear around. love my Georgette.
The reason for the "large" rear shocks is because it has self leveling rear suspension - loaded up with things like bags of mulch the bed doesn't droop like the F-150 I had which was replaced by my '22 Santa Cruz Limited. Great overall review! I would point out that many SC owners with the DCT are reporting issues - Hyundai has been pretty cagey about the recall and fix. I had mine it for the "drivability" recall and much preferred the way it drove before the update was done (and that was months ago so it's not a relearn drive it some and it'll get better issue). I'm on the fence as to if I'll have the recall done (scheduled for next week) - I've heard reports of the truck "bricking" itself after it's been "updated" and requiring a new transmission. Honestly, even with all the concerns it's been GREAT and I have no regrets in replacing my 2018 F-150 XLT 5.0l with this. By the way - I call it a "SUV Car Truck Thing" - I've only gotten a few weird looks from "truck people" - most (even in HD trucks like 2500 and F-250) seem to like it after they look at it. If you need a truck then buy a "real" truck if you need a truck bed occasionally then this or the Maverick works well!