Thank you for this discussion. I've never thought that 2 Co. 4:4 was referring to God, but the discussion opened my eyes to how one might think regarding the verse. I still believe, as you prove, that "the god of this world" is referring to Satan.
You do such a professional job not totally bashing others point of view but laying it out and using Scripture pointing out a Biblical point of view. Some have to push the boundaries trying to show there is no distinction between Israel and the Bride of Christ
Good discussion! I agree with you on 2 Cor. 4:4. I recently came across someone who thinks "rulers of this age" in 1 Cor. 2:8 refers to demons whereas I think contextually it is referring to Pilate and the Sanhedrin.
I've heard Mark Zhakevich emphasize John likes to use synonyms in his writing, so for him to exclusively use ion in that way across all his writing, then that is very significant.
Satan is the god of this world, obviosly speaking of the fact that adam an eve forefetited their right to dominion over it after the fall and that is why Satan said to Jesus, when tempting Him, that "all these kindoms are mine and i can give to whosoever I please etc. ✝️
@thebiblesojourner nice, I was just responding to the video title, I actually didn't get a chance to listen yet, but from the comments looks like I should. God bless
@@333Paradigm333 Genesis 1 is ELOHIM (Lucifer and the fallen angels). They made this realm. They made man in their image. (tares) Man is an idol, a trap to hunt angels. Genesis 2:7 the Lord God forms His representative in their system. (wheat) One Gospel: Gospel (GOOD ANGEL) of Reconciliation. Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself. We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness. If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever. Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of ELOHIM(gods). REPENT FALLEN ANGELS.
@qwerty-so6ml not sure where you are getting that theory from, but the the Bible is clear that Jesus became a man (a little lower than the angels) to redeem mankind. We are not angels, we are the progeny of Adam and Eve. I hope that brings some clarity to the situation. God bless
@@333Paradigm333 In Genesis 3:5, the serpent said Ye shall be AS gods. In John 10:34, Jesus said Ye ARE gods. Stop believing your father, the devil. Jesus called you a god/angel. John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? What law? Psalm 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods (H430); and all of you are children of the most High. 7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes. Strongs H430 Elohim = angels, gods (little g). Right there, he called you a god (angel) that shall die like man, and fall. A fallen angel. Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. No mention of unrepentant man in Matthew 25:41. Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
I heard an interesting perspective that "the god of this world" in 2 Cor 4 is Moses, evidence by the context of 2 Cor 3 about the glory of God being veiled by Moses so that Israel could not see it. I would need to spend more time in the text and study it out more, but it's a fresh perspective and makes me want to pay closer attention to what the text says, and what I might be assuming going in.
I have not heard that! I would be quite interested in seeing the full argument for that. Let me applaud you for being inspired and encouraged to look deeply into the Scriptures. Godspeed on that!
I always read 2 Corinthians 4:4 as referring to Satan which makes the most sense. To be honest I never knew that there was another view. Since 2nd Corinthians was written before 70 AD preterists have a problem since the kingdoms of this Earth don't become the Kingdom of our Lord and his Christ until the blowing of the 7th Trumpet. Obviously as Premilillennials we Know Revelation was written after 70 AD and that the 7th Trumpet hasn't been blown yet and therefore Satan is still the God of this age. Being that God is sovereign you can tie his sovereignty to any aspect and therefore always be right but to me Paul is clearly talking about a 2nd cause and you gave enough supporting passages.
How was Yahweh ruling in the old testament if Satan took dominion in the garden? The devil took Jesus and said 'all the kingdoms of the world have been given to me, and I give them to whomever I wish'. He said if Jesus would bow down and worship him he would give them to Him.
To say that the " god of this world " is God the Father,is patently absurd! In 50 years of being a Christian i hace never once heard it taught this way. White,and others are making a huge stretch in order to support their Calvinism! Thats at the heart of their interpretation.
Well, I don’t agree with the interpretation, but I am not sure it qualifies as absurd. I can at least see the logical argument they make. It is interesting how Calvin himself treats it as absurd though!
@Steve-og4ii Yes, you're right. Satan is the god of this world and always has been since the fall of mankind in the garden of Eden. He offered Jesus all the kingdoms of this world, if Jesus would bow down and worship him but of course Jesus did not. Jesus' Kingdom is not of this world and this world is in the grips of Satan until Jesus returns. We know by this that all the temporal kingdoms of this world are Satan's construct and have nothing to do with God. Of course God has allowed all this for His own glory to shine through. If people cannot see this they have been blinded by their own failure to see God in His true light and have been given over to the god of this world, by the God of heaven. To keep them in the blindness their minds and hearts have succumbed themselves to. Oh, to @thebiblesojourner, Calvin is not Calvinism.
Theos is mentioned 13 times in 2nd Corinthians. Given this fact, I think your first argument about references to Satan would actually be a point in favor of the Yahweh.
Thank you for the word stats. Appreciate that. The reason I don’t think those stats would be as noteworthy is because everyone expects that by nature Christian material will mention God an inordinate amount of times. Similar to how the a military manual might use words like soldier or battle many times because of the topic. Of course the most common referent will be Yahweh due to monotheistic belief. But there is also clear testimony in both OT and NT that there are places it can refer to a non Yahweh entity. The percentage is low given the nature of the Bible, but well attested. So if it were only once in 2 Cor 4:4 that would be expected, or at least statistically consistent.
@@thebiblesojourner I appreciate the response. I also appreciate the magnanimity of saying that either interpretation could be correct. I agree with you on that. However, I would say that the weight of the evidence falls on the other side of the scale. That being said, my NASB agrees with you (it's "g" commentary), so there's that. God bless
Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever. In Him is light and no darkness. If you've seen Him you've seen the Father. He said, 'until now no one has ever heard, nor seen the Father. When the people wanted bread and meat during the exodus Yahweh gave them manna (stones) and sent fiery serpents that bit and killed many of the people. Jesus asked, 'Who of you if your sons asks for bread would give him a stone, or if he asks for a fish would give him a serpent?' Jesus fed the people fish and bread. What was Jesus pointing out here? Jesus came to set us free from the oppression of the devil. Not from His Father. So, who was the devil and where was he for the most part in the OT? Jesus didn't have the power of death like him who had the power of death.
Because the Judah Nation did not believe that Jesus was the Christ and crucified Him, YHVH hardened their hearts. Now they have no entry before HHVH, they to submit before Jesus in faith as all the people upon earth can. The Judah nation was wept over for their disbelief and said Jerusalem you are left to you desolate. How can believer in Christ believe also in a devil blinding the Judahites so they can't see Christ. No, can any professor not go to word meanings and realise that Sawtawn is an adversary, and David seeing the enemy of another nation and instead of relying in YHVH, turned to see if he nad enough men . Can't you professors read scriptures and understand it without running to false belief in an arch enemy. That was introduced in Babylon from Zoroastrianism and their dualism. Look into it. Their is no devil or satan in the OT. Just adversaries and traducers. Look into that also.
@@thebiblesojournermy heart was ready to jump in last night but my body said no haha 3am start times catch up to you 😂 But I just finished and I thought the strongest point was how Paul used “age” in his writing. That overview, especially in the Corinthian letters, was very powerful. At the very start of the video I thought one’s view on God’s sovereignty in salvation is going to play a role in how 2 Cor 4:4 is viewed. While Calvinism can potentially alter one’s interpretation of that verse, it isn’t required. Like Calvin said, the historical context can affect an interpretation and having prior theological commitments can result in the conclusion that it is YWHW and not Satan. The Amill and Postmill camp, while Calvinists like yourself, do have to consider that Satan is bound in this current age and thus cannot be the god of this age. It’s not put forward like the soteriological argument because it’s not as strong and many wouldn’t agree with Satan being currently bound but I can see it being used as a positive argument for YWHW within reformed circles because it keeps their system intact. Overall, great analysis! I’ll read the article at a later time but I do appreciate your expertise and professionalism. We can still fight in the parking lot but I’ll just tell them I let you win 😂
@@JohnDHernandez 🤣If we fight in the parking lot, the only thing I would stand a chance in would be something like chess! Great feedback and thoughts on the episode! And for the record, I think you made a wise choice delaying to watch it. And delayed gratification is so good for the soul! 😜
@ - my chess game is also weak so you got me there too! 😂 Ha! It was only delayed because I was running on fumes but it was a great way to start the morning. Thanks again, brother! God bless and have a Happy Thanksgiving!
In John 8:44, Jesus said the devil is a murderer from the beginning. What beginning? Genesis 1:1 In the beginning. Genesis 1 is ELOHIM (Lucifer and the fallen angels). They made this realm. They made man in their image. (tares) Man is an idol, a trap to hunt angels. Genesis 2:7 the Lord God forms His representative in their system. (wheat) One Gospel: Gospel (GOOD ANGEL) of Reconciliation. Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself. We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness. If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever. Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of ELOHIM(gods). REPENT FALLEN ANGELS.
I’m sorry, I tried to understand but I could not even track your argument here sorry. I would recommend seeing if AI can follow your argument and perhaps fine tune it a little bit. Seems like there are some major assumptions going on here that have no basis in reality.
@@thebiblesojourner Do you know that a sojourner is an exile? Someone that was kicked out of their country of origin. 1 Peter 1:17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear: Man is a peel, shell, or husk. Man is an illusion, a trap to hunt angels. Genesis 1:27 So ELOHIM created(BARA) man in his own image (TSELEM), in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. ELOHIM = angels, gods (little g) BARA = cut down, formative process TSELEM = image, phantom, illusion, representative figure - especially an idol. Genesis 1:27 So ANGELS created man as a PHANTOM, ILLUSION, ESPECIALLY AN IDOL. Does the Lord God make idols? NO. Satan and his kind make idols. Where is your origin? In Jude 1:6-7, Angels left their first estate to fornicate. Are angels male or female? No. How do they fornicate? They take on an idol (human host body) to participate. Are you being hunted? Ezekiel 13:20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there HUNT THE SOULS to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.
Not to contradict you, but technically, a sojourner is someone who resides temporarily in a place, rather than living there permanently. The term comes from the Old French word sojourner and the Latin root subdiurnare (to stay for a day), emphasizing the idea of a temporary stay. It doesn’t inherently relate to exile, which is why we have the word “exiles.”
@@thebiblesojourner Isaiah 29:10 For the Lord hath poured out UPON YOU the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered. 11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: 12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned. Shalom.
@qwerty-so6ml Oh my, you are so steeped in Gnosticism and beyond ever understanding the truth, with this mindset. Pray you give up all these false beliefs and come to the true knowledge of the God of heaven by way of His word of truth, the Holy Bible.
Thank you for this discussion. I've never thought that 2 Co. 4:4 was referring to God, but the discussion opened my eyes to how one might think regarding the verse. I still believe, as you prove, that "the god of this world" is referring to Satan.
It is a helpful discussion to have. Glad you found it beneficial.
You do such a professional job not totally bashing others point of view but laying it out and using Scripture pointing out a Biblical point of view. Some have to push the boundaries trying to show there is no distinction between Israel and the Bride of Christ
Appreciate that encouragement. Please pray that God will keep me humble enough to pursue this kind of attitude perpetually.
Good discussion! I agree with you on 2 Cor. 4:4. I recently came across someone who thinks "rulers of this age" in 1 Cor. 2:8 refers to demons whereas I think contextually it is referring to Pilate and the Sanhedrin.
Yes I go back and forth on the “rulers of this age” phrase in 1 Cor 2. Hard to be dogmatic on it, though the point of the passage is fairly clear.
I've heard Mark Zhakevich emphasize John likes to use synonyms in his writing, so for him to exclusively use ion in that way across all his writing, then that is very significant.
Exactly! Excellent observation.
Satan is the god of this world, obviosly speaking of the fact that adam an eve forefetited their right to dominion over it after the fall and that is why Satan said to Jesus, when tempting Him, that "all these kindoms are mine and i can give to whosoever I please etc. ✝️
Good point. I will be talking about this more in a future episode!
@thebiblesojourner nice, I was just responding to the video title, I actually didn't get a chance to listen yet, but from the comments looks like I should. God bless
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Genesis 1 is ELOHIM (Lucifer and the fallen angels).
They made this realm.
They made man in their image. (tares)
Man is an idol, a trap to hunt angels.
Genesis 2:7 the Lord God forms His representative in their system. (wheat)
One Gospel:
Gospel (GOOD ANGEL) of Reconciliation.
Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom
to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself.
We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness.
If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever.
Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of ELOHIM(gods).
REPENT FALLEN ANGELS.
@qwerty-so6ml not sure where you are getting that theory from, but the the Bible is clear that Jesus became a man (a little lower than the angels) to redeem mankind. We are not angels, we are the progeny of Adam and Eve. I hope that brings some clarity to the situation. God bless
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In Genesis 3:5, the serpent said Ye shall be AS gods.
In John 10:34, Jesus said Ye ARE gods.
Stop believing your father, the devil.
Jesus called you a god/angel.
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
What law?
Psalm 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods (H430); and all of you are children of the most High.
7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.
Strongs H430 Elohim = angels, gods (little g).
Right there, he called you a god (angel) that shall die like man, and fall. A fallen angel.
Romans 5:10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
No mention of unrepentant man in Matthew 25:41.
Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Excellent job. Thanks. Is there anything that's not debated in Scripture? :). Maranatha.
Haha, good point. We sinners sure debate some of the strangest things.
I heard an interesting perspective that "the god of this world" in 2 Cor 4 is Moses, evidence by the context of 2 Cor 3 about the glory of God being veiled by Moses so that Israel could not see it. I would need to spend more time in the text and study it out more, but it's a fresh perspective and makes me want to pay closer attention to what the text says, and what I might be assuming going in.
I have not heard that! I would be quite interested in seeing the full argument for that. Let me applaud you for being inspired and encouraged to look deeply into the Scriptures. Godspeed on that!
I always read 2 Corinthians 4:4 as referring to Satan which makes the most sense. To be honest I never knew that there was another view. Since 2nd Corinthians was written before 70 AD preterists have a problem since the kingdoms of this Earth don't become the Kingdom of our Lord and his Christ until the blowing of the 7th Trumpet. Obviously as Premilillennials we Know Revelation was written after 70 AD and that the 7th Trumpet hasn't been blown yet and therefore Satan is still the God of this age.
Being that God is sovereign you can tie his sovereignty to any aspect and therefore always be right but to me Paul is clearly talking about a 2nd cause and you gave enough supporting passages.
Well said. I plan on doing a follow-up episode talking about the eschatological ramifications.
How was Yahweh ruling in the old testament if Satan took dominion in the garden? The devil took Jesus and said 'all the kingdoms of the world have been given to me, and I give them to whomever I wish'. He said if Jesus would bow down and worship him he would give them to Him.
Great question. I plan on addressing that specifically in the next video.
@dannyallen4172 "Satan took dominion in the garden" Where in the Bible does it say that?
I really appreciate how you gave the other view. I think the other side should be able to listen to it with very little critique.
I’m trying to grow in my ability to present the arguments as best as I can. Thanks for the encouragement on that. Blessings!
Not even mentioning Paul refers to the law of Moses as the law of death. And Jesus as the law of love
I’m probably obtuse but I don’t see the connection you’re making? Could you explain it a little further?
To say that the " god of this world " is God the Father,is patently absurd! In 50 years of being a Christian i hace never once heard it taught this way. White,and others are making a huge stretch in order to support their Calvinism! Thats at the heart of their interpretation.
Well, I don’t agree with the interpretation, but I am not sure it qualifies as absurd. I can at least see the logical argument they make. It is interesting how Calvin himself treats it as absurd though!
@Steve-og4ii Yes, you're right. Satan is the god of this world and always has been since the fall of mankind in the garden of Eden. He offered Jesus all the kingdoms of this world, if Jesus would bow down and worship him but of course Jesus did not.
Jesus' Kingdom is not of this world and this world is in the grips of Satan until Jesus returns. We know by this that all the temporal kingdoms of this world are Satan's construct and have nothing to do with God.
Of course God has allowed all this for His own glory to shine through. If people cannot see this they have been blinded by their own failure to see God in His true light and have been given over to the god of this world, by the God of heaven. To keep them in the blindness their minds and hearts have succumbed themselves to.
Oh, to @thebiblesojourner, Calvin is not Calvinism.
Then what one is it?
Theos is mentioned 13 times in 2nd Corinthians. Given this fact, I think your first argument about references to Satan would actually be a point in favor of the Yahweh.
Sorry, 25 times? And 4:4 would be the only time not referring to Yahweh.
Thank you for the word stats. Appreciate that. The reason I don’t think those stats would be as noteworthy is because everyone expects that by nature Christian material will mention God an inordinate amount of times. Similar to how the a military manual might use words like soldier or battle many times because of the topic. Of course the most common referent will be Yahweh due to monotheistic belief. But there is also clear testimony in both OT and NT that there are places it can refer to a non Yahweh entity. The percentage is low given the nature of the Bible, but well attested. So if it were only once in 2 Cor 4:4 that would be expected, or at least statistically consistent.
@@thebiblesojourner I appreciate the response. I also appreciate the magnanimity of saying that either interpretation could be correct. I agree with you on that. However, I would say that the weight of the evidence falls on the other side of the scale. That being said, my NASB agrees with you (it's "g" commentary), so there's that. God bless
Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever. In Him is light and no darkness. If you've seen Him you've seen the Father. He said, 'until now no one has ever heard, nor seen the Father.
When the people wanted bread and meat during the exodus Yahweh gave them manna (stones) and sent fiery serpents that bit and killed many of the people. Jesus asked, 'Who of you if your sons asks for bread would give him a stone, or if he asks for a fish would give him a serpent?' Jesus fed the people fish and bread. What was Jesus pointing out here? Jesus came to set us free from the oppression of the devil. Not from His Father. So, who was the devil and where was he for the most part in the OT? Jesus didn't have the power of death like him who had the power of death.
Because the Judah Nation did not believe that Jesus was the Christ and crucified Him, YHVH hardened their hearts. Now they have no entry before HHVH, they to submit before Jesus in faith as all the people upon earth can. The Judah nation was wept over for their disbelief and said Jerusalem you are left to you desolate.
How can believer in Christ believe also in a devil blinding the Judahites so they can't see Christ.
No, can any professor not go to word meanings and realise that Sawtawn is an adversary, and David seeing the enemy of another nation and instead of relying in YHVH, turned to see if he nad enough men . Can't you professors read scriptures and understand it without running to false belief in an arch enemy. That was introduced in Babylon from Zoroastrianism and their dualism. Look into it.
Their is no devil or satan in the OT. Just adversaries and traducers. Look into that also.
Oh man this is a late upload! I’m ready to jump in! 😎
Yeah, late night viewing on this one!
@@thebiblesojournermy heart was ready to jump in last night but my body said no haha 3am start times catch up to you 😂
But I just finished and I thought the strongest point was how Paul used “age” in his writing. That overview, especially in the Corinthian letters, was very powerful.
At the very start of the video I thought one’s view on God’s sovereignty in salvation is going to play a role in how 2 Cor 4:4 is viewed. While Calvinism can potentially alter one’s interpretation of that verse, it isn’t required. Like Calvin said, the historical context can affect an interpretation and having prior theological commitments can result in the conclusion that it is YWHW and not Satan. The Amill and Postmill camp, while Calvinists like yourself, do have to consider that Satan is bound in this current age and thus cannot be the god of this age. It’s not put forward like the soteriological argument because it’s not as strong and many wouldn’t agree with Satan being currently bound but I can see it being used as a positive argument for YWHW within reformed circles because it keeps their system intact.
Overall, great analysis! I’ll read the article at a later time but I do appreciate your expertise and professionalism. We can still fight in the parking lot but I’ll just tell them I let you win 😂
@@JohnDHernandez 🤣If we fight in the parking lot, the only thing I would stand a chance in would be something like chess! Great feedback and thoughts on the episode! And for the record, I think you made a wise choice delaying to watch it. And delayed gratification is so good for the soul! 😜
@ - my chess game is also weak so you got me there too! 😂
Ha! It was only delayed because I was running on fumes but it was a great way to start the morning. Thanks again, brother! God bless and have a Happy Thanksgiving!
In John 8:44, Jesus said the devil is a murderer from the beginning.
What beginning? Genesis 1:1 In the beginning.
Genesis 1 is ELOHIM (Lucifer and the fallen angels).
They made this realm.
They made man in their image. (tares)
Man is an idol, a trap to hunt angels.
Genesis 2:7 the Lord God forms His representative in their system. (wheat)
One Gospel:
Gospel (GOOD ANGEL) of Reconciliation.
Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom
to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself.
We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness.
If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever.
Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of ELOHIM(gods).
REPENT FALLEN ANGELS.
I’m sorry, I tried to understand but I could not even track your argument here sorry. I would recommend seeing if AI can follow your argument and perhaps fine tune it a little bit. Seems like there are some major assumptions going on here that have no basis in reality.
@@thebiblesojourner
Do you know that a sojourner is an exile? Someone that was kicked out of their country of origin.
1 Peter 1:17 And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:
Man is a peel, shell, or husk.
Man is an illusion, a trap to hunt angels.
Genesis 1:27 So ELOHIM created(BARA) man in his own image (TSELEM), in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
ELOHIM = angels, gods (little g)
BARA = cut down, formative process
TSELEM = image, phantom, illusion, representative figure - especially an idol.
Genesis 1:27 So ANGELS created man as a PHANTOM, ILLUSION, ESPECIALLY AN IDOL.
Does the Lord God make idols? NO. Satan and his kind make idols.
Where is your origin?
In Jude 1:6-7, Angels left their first estate to fornicate.
Are angels male or female? No.
How do they fornicate?
They take on an idol (human host body) to participate.
Are you being hunted?
Ezekiel 13:20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there HUNT THE SOULS to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.
Not to contradict you, but technically, a sojourner is someone who resides temporarily in a place, rather than living there permanently. The term comes from the Old French word sojourner and the Latin root subdiurnare (to stay for a day), emphasizing the idea of a temporary stay. It doesn’t inherently relate to exile, which is why we have the word “exiles.”
@@thebiblesojourner
Isaiah 29:10 For the Lord hath poured out UPON YOU the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.
11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
12 And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
Shalom.
@qwerty-so6ml Oh my, you are so steeped in Gnosticism and beyond ever understanding the truth, with this mindset. Pray you give up all these false beliefs and come to the true knowledge of the God of heaven by way of His word of truth, the Holy Bible.