I'd love some feedback on the video. Did you find it helpful? Was it a little too detailed and long? Let me know if you have any questions on the template or Practice Productions. IF YOU WANT A TEMPLATE FOR DAVINCI RESOLVE FAIRLIGHT, HERE YOU GO!!! th-cam.com/video/84OA7pWPsN0/w-d-xo.html
@@MPAflix I could look into producing that for you. It won't be exactly the same as they are different DAWs but it's possible. One thing fairlight is missing is folder tracks to that could be in order and colour coded, just less organised.
@@benniknop Thanks and I think not just me, many one man band filmmakers will appreciate for producing such content around 5.1 and stereo editing and mixing tutorial for narrative movies in Fairlight, as there is very few professional ones online
I can be grateful enough for the reverb grouping trick and the stereo reverb one too. It's very helpful. I've been trying to figure that out for a while. Thank you!
Fun to see your template! Thank you for sharing! When I mix in surround that is not my day job, I tend to separate on every track my send reverb front and send to reverb back. And instead of the predelay I actually use a delay. I found it easier to write automation on the audio clip. Otherwise it is very similar. I am definitely going to go deeper in the stems mixdown and web mix.
I'm looking over your great 5.1/2.0 template I just purchased, and have what is probably a stupid question. I see that the 5.1 masters feed a 2.0 bus, but I don't understand how that will work without some sort of downmix process in between. Wouldn't the 2.0 mix simply be a reflection of the L/R from the surround mix?
@@benniknop Ah, I see that in the preferences now! Brilliant! It's been awhile since I did a surround mix, so I think that update happened in the interim. That's my excuse, and I'm stickin' to it. ;)
I'm doing more in Dolby Atmos at the moment. Mostly in music mixing. I'll be looking at making an Atmos template soon. Just need to road test it for myself.
Hi there - Thanks so much for sharing your template with us! Awesome to be able to see how other people work. One of the most impressive things about it to me is the grouped reverb tracks! Never thought of that before and massive time saver. I downloaded the template and wanted to ask about one thing I noticed could be an error, but if not would appreciate clarification on! In the vid, you say that the "A verbs" are all grouped so that a change to one happens to all. However, I noticed in the template that it appears that ALL reverbs are grouped (ABDC etc) so that a preset change, for instance, changes all the reverbs to that preset. Am I missing something or is this a mistake? Thanks again for all your work on this. Massive.
As in if you change Reverb A it also changes it for Reverb B in the same channel ie DX? All Reverb As in DX, SFX, Foley and AMB should change but not effect Reverb B. If this is happening, it's definitely an error. I'll have a look at it and send out an update. Thanks for sharing.
Hi small question. The channels on the stereo Down mix aren’t receiving any signal at all and don’t print their mixes. Is their anything else I need to be doing to allow the stereo channels to receive audio I. Order to export the stereo down mix ?
Hi! Thank you for a great tutorial? Is there a way to monitor the Stereo Downmix via this session? Just so you can make mix decisions based on the stereo mix being created?
This is great, thanks for posting! Wish I found this before I made my 5.1 template, which looks similar to yours in some ways. I did my first 5.1 job from home last week. I did the calibration based on other YT video's, but I'm still a little confused about the LFE. Do you have a video on 5.1 speaker calibration.
great video thanks! Was wondering on your submixes you have dia, fx, and music, and then you also have foley and ambience. Is it common to deliver foley and ambience stems? I feel like im typically seeing just dia, music and fx. Thanks
These days it doesn't hurt to have them there even if it's for archival purposes. You could busses them other so if the foley and ambiences aren't required, you just don't send them. Just keep them if they have any revisions down the line.
Hey great video! Going to grab the template and may some other bits. It seems the DTS plugin is discontinued by Waves! Can you recommend an affordable alternative? Thanks.
oh , cool video, thanks. I use Reaper but I still get what you are doing, I need to set up a template for stems too. I have been watching and searching a lot about reverbs and panning for orchestral libraries and a lot of people have had different opinions. Using the Early and Late reflections the way you do is very common. do you do any panning of the tracks at all? I have seen this reverb recently reviewed called Eareverb 2, a guy on here on youtube has a nice demo of a lot of different libraries being used with it. Kind of want it now.
I love the exponential audio (now iZotope) reverbs. They sound bloody amazing. th-cam.com/users/lives0ldzaMNjj4?feature=share Watch some of this for demos.
@@benniknop Oh Nice! Speaking of Reverbs did you see the new Berlin Studio reverb by Samplicity? I only found out about it last night. You will want to take a look at it for sure. It is the Berlin Teldex stage, I think it is convolution reverb but it has placement as well for orchestra.
Hi why every time I import mono stem files from a client they appear in protools in stereo, I'm trying to figure away without always having to split files. Any better solutions?
Still a little confused about the down mix to stereo here, the 5.1 master isn't been sent to the stereo down mix , therefore there are no levels going into the stereo down mixes. When I mix down there is absolutely nothing on the stereo render. What am I doing wrong ? thanks in advance Benni !
Sorry for the delay. Are you using my template or have you built it yourself? You can send audio to multiple buses/masters by hold down control (from memory) and clicking separate outputs. It’ll add a tick next to them.
@@benniknop Great thanks a lot all sorted. Just another small question. With the grouped FX sends, when using the two A sends to create the immersive sound you mention altering the second reverbs pre delay by about 30, the trouble is when I do this, because it is linked to the first A reverb, this changes its pre delay also. So I can't have the second delay at a different pre delay setting, hope that makes sense !
@@MarkSmith-re4heinteresting. You could use delay compensation on the track. It’s not as good because the sound and reverb are the exact same but with 30 ms delay comp. Use a delay plugin before the reverb and delay it 30ms. Just make it a one shot delay
Thank you, I bought your template and am liking it but find often when I import or move audio the pop up output window volume for the track is suddenly automated to no signal along the timeline. It happens a lot and slows me down. Just wondering if you've come across this problem and found a fix? I hadn't seen this happen before. Cheers
Hi Benni and community. I love your videos and I've watched a lot of them. They got me a promotion at work, so thanks for all you do. I have a question for you and the community. I'm still very new to 5.1 and am still very annoying to those I'm learning from because I cannot just take things as said or at face value. I HAVE TO UNDERSTAND. Which often means you have to be good at explaining. My current disagreement with my seniors is what goes to the centre speaker. The way I'm being taught is that nothing and I mean NOTHING goes to the centre speaker except for dialogue. No music, no sfx including production sfx and Foley. They all have to be removed from the centre by means of centre divergence. So much so that any action that happens ie footsteps at the same time as dialogue must be recreated using Foley and adr because you cannot have footsteps in the centre speaker. Everything that is not dialogue both Mono and stereo has to be centre diverged to come out of the phantom centre and not the centre speaker. This feels like it ads unnecessary time and work. Like I said, I am still new and just wish to understand and not just blindly follow.
Thanks for the love. Tell me more about this promotion and how my videos helped you get it. Personally I don’t work that way and when I watch content, I believe other’s don’t either. I definitely try to avoid music in the centre especially if there is dialogue but I but a lot of mono SFX and particularly foley in the centre channel. Some films don’t have the budget to fully add foley so you use the fx in the production audio which is in the centre with dialogue. You need to balance everything in the centre so your dialogue still pops. The biggest reason to use the centre for things like foley and sound effects that are in the centre of the screen is for cinemas and theatres. Phantom centre only works in a theatre if you’re in the prime position. For everyone else the sounds comes from the side they are sitting on. That’s why stereo films in a cinema don’t work. The dialogue is in a different spot depending on where you are in the cinema. I’d be happy to talk with your team about this. Email me on my website.
@benniknop Thank you so much for your response. I made the move from mixing music to mixing film so my position at work is always that of the guy that is new to 5.1 and am less likely to be listened to when I challenge some of these practices. I would definitely love for you to speak to the team. I will pick that up in further detail on the email I will be sending through your website. As how for how your video helped me get a promotion. Like I said. I'm very new to the 5.1 space and most what I know if not all of it is from watching yours and Thomas Boykins' videos on post production. It's there that I learned the fundamentals of session routing for 5.1. I didn't even know what a dialogue edit was until I watched your videos. I learned how to how to understand and start mastering the basics in order to really understand what happens in the more advanced stuff. I went from using blunt tools like Waves X-noise to more surgical tool like RX. More than anything though, I learned that my job is not just pushing buttons but a story teller. This way of thinking has endeared me to the directors that I am now working with and has advanced my position at work and your are directly responsible for this and I thank you. I really want to continue to grow in this space but with the right knowledge. My goal is to get to atmos mixing. I really do appreciate you responding and giving me the confidence to continue to resist things that intuitively or logically don't sound or feel right to me. Damaging perfectly good dialogue in an effort to extract footsteps to send to phantom centre just doesn't resonate as how things are supposed to be done.
Is there a reason you don't use "routing" folders (bus folders) instead of "basic" folders, since you're bussing each of those food groups anyway? Just a visual thing to keep the busses in one little bunch?
@@benniknop Gotcha - that makes sense! Nah no need for a template, was just curious if there was a reason I wasn't considering for setting it up that way.
You’re the second to request this. I think I might have to get that sorted soon. Would you purchase a project file if it was a similar setup to this one?
I'd love some feedback on the video. Did you find it helpful? Was it a little too detailed and long?
Let me know if you have any questions on the template or Practice Productions.
IF YOU WANT A TEMPLATE FOR DAVINCI RESOLVE FAIRLIGHT, HERE YOU GO!!! th-cam.com/video/84OA7pWPsN0/w-d-xo.html
I wish I had the same template for Fairlight page
@@MPAflix I could look into producing that for you. It won't be exactly the same as they are different DAWs but it's possible. One thing fairlight is missing is folder tracks to that could be in order and colour coded, just less organised.
@@benniknop Thanks and I think not just me, many one man band filmmakers will appreciate for producing such content around 5.1 and stereo editing and mixing tutorial for narrative movies in Fairlight, as there is very few professional ones online
I can be grateful enough for the reverb grouping trick and the stereo reverb one too. It's very helpful. I've been trying to figure that out for a while. Thank you!
You are most welcome! Glad this video could be helpful to you.
This is awsome! Even just watchingthe video taught me more on how surround projects are made!
Glad you found it helpful. Please subscribe to the channel. There’s heaps of different content on here that will show you how projects are made.
Fun to see your template! Thank you for sharing! When I mix in surround that is not my day job, I tend to separate on every track my send reverb front and send to reverb back. And instead of the predelay I actually use a delay. I found it easier to write automation on the audio clip. Otherwise it is very similar. I am definitely going to go deeper in the stems mixdown and web mix.
Thanks for sharing! I love hearing how others work. Always got something new to learn.
Thank you for your generosity
You are most welcome. Happy to help.
I'm looking over your great 5.1/2.0 template I just purchased, and have what is probably a stupid question. I see that the 5.1 masters feed a 2.0 bus, but I don't understand how that will work without some sort of downmix process in between. Wouldn't the 2.0 mix simply be a reflection of the L/R from the surround mix?
ProTools doesn’t require a plugin anymore. It does the download automatically. You can change the down mix settings in your preferences now.
@@benniknop Ah, I see that in the preferences now! Brilliant! It's been awhile since I did a surround mix, so I think that update happened in the interim. That's my excuse, and I'm stickin' to it. ;)
Hi Benni! Incredible work. When are you going to update to a Dolby Atmos tutorial or template! to work in post. Really Appreciate your effort! 😎
I'm doing more in Dolby Atmos at the moment. Mostly in music mixing. I'll be looking at making an Atmos template soon. Just need to road test it for myself.
Hi there - Thanks so much for sharing your template with us! Awesome to be able to see how other people work. One of the most impressive things about it to me is the grouped reverb tracks! Never thought of that before and massive time saver. I downloaded the template and wanted to ask about one thing I noticed could be an error, but if not would appreciate clarification on! In the vid, you say that the "A verbs" are all grouped so that a change to one happens to all. However, I noticed in the template that it appears that ALL reverbs are grouped (ABDC etc) so that a preset change, for instance, changes all the reverbs to that preset. Am I missing something or is this a mistake? Thanks again for all your work on this. Massive.
As in if you change Reverb A it also changes it for Reverb B in the same channel ie DX? All Reverb As in DX, SFX, Foley and AMB should change but not effect Reverb B. If this is happening, it's definitely an error. I'll have a look at it and send out an update. Thanks for sharing.
Hi small question. The channels on the stereo Down mix aren’t receiving any signal at all and don’t print their mixes. Is their anything else I need to be doing to allow the stereo channels to receive audio I. Order to export the stereo down mix ?
Hi! Thank you for a great tutorial? Is there a way to monitor the Stereo Downmix via this session? Just so you can make mix decisions based on the stereo mix being created?
This is great, thanks for posting! Wish I found this before I made my 5.1 template, which looks similar to yours in some ways. I did my first 5.1 job from home last week. I did the calibration based on other YT video's, but I'm still a little confused about the LFE. Do you have a video on 5.1 speaker calibration.
That I do. 5.1 SURROUND SOUND SPEAKER CALIBRATION // Setting the right levels for your audio post mix room.
th-cam.com/video/33OCb7WxzCM/w-d-xo.html
@@benniknop Great! I'll check it out now!
great video thanks! Was wondering on your submixes you have dia, fx, and music, and then you also have foley and ambience. Is it common to deliver foley and ambience stems? I feel like im typically seeing just dia, music and fx. Thanks
These days it doesn't hurt to have them there even if it's for archival purposes. You could busses them other so if the foley and ambiences aren't required, you just don't send them. Just keep them if they have any revisions down the line.
Hey great video! Going to grab the template and may some other bits. It seems the DTS plugin is discontinued by Waves! Can you recommend an affordable alternative? Thanks.
I've started using PENTEO and it's bloody awesome. I'll be making some videos soon.
oh , cool video, thanks. I use Reaper but I still get what you are doing, I need to set up a template for stems too. I have been watching and searching a lot about reverbs and panning for orchestral libraries and a lot of people have had different opinions. Using the Early and Late reflections the way you do is very common. do you do any panning of the tracks at all? I have seen this reverb recently reviewed called Eareverb 2, a guy on here on youtube has a nice demo of a lot of different libraries being used with it. Kind of want it now.
I love the exponential audio (now iZotope) reverbs. They sound bloody amazing.
th-cam.com/users/lives0ldzaMNjj4?feature=share
Watch some of this for demos.
@@benniknop Oh Nice! Speaking of Reverbs did you see the new Berlin Studio reverb by Samplicity? I only found out about it last night. You will want to take a look at it for sure. It is the Berlin Teldex stage, I think it is convolution reverb but it has placement as well for orchestra.
@@maplefoxx6285 I’ll have a look. Thanks for letting me know.
Did I miss where you said what you're using for downmixing?
These days ProTools does it automatically. You can change the settings in the pretences. You don’t need the Dow mix plugin anymore.
Hi why every time I import mono stem files from a client they appear in protools in stereo, I'm trying to figure away without always having to split files. Any better solutions?
Is this an AAF? Normally an AAF is only mono. If they are stems you could setup your project not interlaced. That may help.
Still a little confused about the down mix to stereo here, the 5.1 master isn't been sent to the stereo down mix , therefore there are no levels going into the stereo down mixes. When I mix down there is absolutely nothing on the stereo render. What am I doing wrong ? thanks in advance Benni !
Sorry for the delay. Are you using my template or have you built it yourself? You can send audio to multiple buses/masters by hold down control (from memory) and clicking separate outputs. It’ll add a tick next to them.
Also make sure you’re exporting the right output. On my template, you need to export 2.0 DX, 2.0 FX and so on.
@@benniknop Great thanks a lot all sorted. Just another small question. With the grouped FX sends, when using the two A sends to create the immersive sound you mention altering the second reverbs pre delay by about 30, the trouble is when I do this, because it is linked to the first A reverb, this changes its pre delay also. So I can't have the second delay at a different pre delay setting, hope that makes sense !
@@MarkSmith-re4heinteresting. You could use delay compensation on the track. It’s not as good because the sound and reverb are the exact same but with 30 ms delay comp. Use a delay plugin before the reverb and delay it 30ms. Just make it a one shot delay
How Bout Audio Interface ? what are you using ?
@11:29 - MOTU UltraLite mk5
Currently. Looking at upgrading to Atmos soon. I’ll be needing a new interface.
Thank you, I bought your template and am liking it but find often when I import or move audio the pop up output window volume for the track is suddenly automated to no signal along the timeline. It happens a lot and slows me down. Just wondering if you've come across this problem and found a fix? I hadn't seen this happen before. Cheers
Could you please email me a short video of your problem to my email. Contact me through my website. I'd like to help you resolve this issue.
Hi Benni and community. I love your videos and I've watched a lot of them. They got me a promotion at work, so thanks for all you do. I have a question for you and the community. I'm still very new to 5.1 and am still very annoying to those I'm learning from because I cannot just take things as said or at face value. I HAVE TO UNDERSTAND. Which often means you have to be good at explaining. My current disagreement with my seniors is what goes to the centre speaker. The way I'm being taught is that nothing and I mean NOTHING goes to the centre speaker except for dialogue. No music, no sfx including production sfx and Foley. They all have to be removed from the centre by means of centre divergence. So much so that any action that happens ie footsteps at the same time as dialogue must be recreated using Foley and adr because you cannot have footsteps in the centre speaker. Everything that is not dialogue both Mono and stereo has to be centre diverged to come out of the phantom centre and not the centre speaker. This feels like it ads unnecessary time and work. Like I said, I am still new and just wish to understand and not just blindly follow.
Thanks for the love. Tell me more about this promotion and how my videos helped you get it.
Personally I don’t work that way and when I watch content, I believe other’s don’t either. I definitely try to avoid music in the centre especially if there is dialogue but I but a lot of mono SFX and particularly foley in the centre channel. Some films don’t have the budget to fully add foley so you use the fx in the production audio which is in the centre with dialogue. You need to balance everything in the centre so your dialogue still pops.
The biggest reason to use the centre for things like foley and sound effects that are in the centre of the screen is for cinemas and theatres. Phantom centre only works in a theatre if you’re in the prime position. For everyone else the sounds comes from the side they are sitting on. That’s why stereo films in a cinema don’t work. The dialogue is in a different spot depending on where you are in the cinema.
I’d be happy to talk with your team about this. Email me on my website.
@benniknop Thank you so much for your response. I made the move from mixing music to mixing film so my position at work is always that of the guy that is new to 5.1 and am less likely to be listened to when I challenge some of these practices. I would definitely love for you to speak to the team. I will pick that up in further detail on the email I will be sending through your website. As how for how your video helped me get a promotion. Like I said. I'm very new to the 5.1 space and most what I know if not all of it is from watching yours and Thomas Boykins' videos on post production. It's there that I learned the fundamentals of session routing for 5.1. I didn't even know what a dialogue edit was until I watched your videos. I learned how to how to understand and start mastering the basics in order to really understand what happens in the more advanced stuff. I went from using blunt tools like Waves X-noise to more surgical tool like RX. More than anything though, I learned that my job is not just pushing buttons but a story teller. This way of thinking has endeared me to the directors that I am now working with and has advanced my position at work and your are directly responsible for this and I thank you. I really want to continue to grow in this space but with the right knowledge. My goal is to get to atmos mixing. I really do appreciate you responding and giving me the confidence to continue to resist things that intuitively or logically don't sound or feel right to me. Damaging perfectly good dialogue in an effort to extract footsteps to send to phantom centre just doesn't resonate as how things are supposed to be done.
Is there a reason you don't use "routing" folders (bus folders) instead of "basic" folders, since you're bussing each of those food groups anyway? Just a visual thing to keep the busses in one little bunch?
Correct. I like having my busses together. Old habit I guess. Would you be able to set yourself up or would you want a version like that as well?
@@benniknop Gotcha - that makes sense! Nah no need for a template, was just curious if there was a reason I wasn't considering for setting it up that way.
Do the same for fairlight please :)
You’re the second to request this. I think I might have to get that sorted soon. Would you purchase a project file if it was a similar setup to this one?
@@benniknop totally I would. A super complet one like this one for sure
and like we talked about the more fairlight turotial the more audiance you will reach cause no one is doing it.
HERE YOU GO!!! th-cam.com/video/84OA7pWPsN0/w-d-xo.html
No atmos?
That’ll be coming hopefully in a couple of months. I’ll be setup for Atmos early Feb and I’ll need time to get it sorted.
@Benni Knop Would u be going back and forth between binaural and speakers for Dolby-atmos.