former hardcore Pro Tools user here - Post Pro/Midi Score Composing/Soundesign/Recording/Mixing. Since a few years I´m on: Nuendo. And finally very happy. Highly recommend... Nuendo = best daw. no doubt. ❤
I'm support Nuendo to the extent that I trust Steinberg more than Avid. That's reason enough. The more people support Nuendo, the better their software can become as well.
I switched from Pro Tools. A few reasons. 1. Surround without dedicated hardware. 2. Better midi 3. More updates. At the time Pro Tools had very few updates. Im not a pro though
I was a young lad in the year 2000 using Reason 2.5. A couple of years later, I met a dance music producer who was using cubase. I was impressed with the flexibility. Reason was only doing midi back then so recording audio was a big step ahead. So I switched to cubase. Then around 2007, when I had became a biiit more serious and knowledgeable, my needs “forced” me to switch to pro tools. Multitrack editing in pro tools was unbeatable for me. I used pro tools until 2014 but never had the fluency I managed to achieve with cubase. Sometimes I would still strike Cubase shortcut buttons 😂. Some years went by, and my needs grew even bigger. Three pro tools HD Accel rigs, running in the studio and suddenly…. HD cards were not supported any more, which is the normal evolution of technology, old things get forgotten, but the newer versions of pro tools had such cool features that I needed. HD systems were expensive and upgrading three of them was a lot of cash. I had to think my next move. I was so pissed back then, and mad at Avid 😂. Soooo…. I switched back to cubase and eventually Nuendo. I had missed you and sorry for being away. The “industry” forced me. I am now happier than ever and still see room for improvement, but the amount of tools Nuendo gives me, worth the extra tinkering and deepening the search into manuals and TH-cam videos. Pro tools felt like a “know all” business partner, and Nuendo feels like the trustful local mechanic who knows more than the dealers themselves. I love it. 🥰
Hello! Composer for theatre, film and TV here. I was a die-hard Pro Tools user up until around 2015. Now it's Nuendo forever!!! Such an immense piece of software, infinitely customisable. As you say, the philosophy around the program is different than Pro Tools, where you always "know what you get" since every setup of PT is more or less the same. But the power to tweak and mould the software into working exactly in the way you want - The combination of Project Logical Editor, macros and custom key commands - the possibilities are endless. Add to that the ADR and sound design features, video cut detection, reconform... Stuff that no other DAW has.
Thanks for the insights! One additional and very practical thing to mention is the HW utilization on a Mac M series computer: Nuendo maxes the use of cpu cores on the Mac M series where PT can only make use of the performance cores. Roughly this means you could run your Nuendo on a Mac mini where on PT you would need a Mac studio for the same performance. That price difference is huge! In the end what counts is your workflow and willingness to learn a DAW once again and spend the endless hours learning shortcuts and new workflows to suit your needs. Time is money. All is IMO.
Me too - and for 30 yrs 🙂but I had to buy a Mac because I'm on PT and needed to get going with Atmos. Here is a very detailed comparison of the most popular DAWs and the Mac M1-3 practical use: th-cam.com/video/VFpCbT3Rx4Y/w-d-xo.html
Paul, I thank you many times over. I have been a Nuendo user alone for over 20 years. Your video was very well (& frank) as to the 'why Nuendo'. To my need (which can greatly vary by user need), always makes me feel like I'm forever trying to chase a train that gets faster & faster. But again, those working light years ahead love how fast the Nuendo design team pushes ahead. Just a quick thanks for your sincere video work! PLEASE, continue to spread the faith....we know how wonderful Nuendo works! Semper Fidelity, Joe Blasingame, AE & P
Hey, Joseph, thanks a lot, man! "Zone Of Interest", which got an Oscar for soud this year, is the first awarded picture mixed down in Nuendo, so we're getting really closer and closer to become the second standard next to PT. Cheers, good to have you here!
I totally agree! I have use Nuendo since V1 early 2000 and I have used PT also. But I always want to convert all files to Nuendo. I have lots of gear and DSP, and Nuendo just works!
Can you please start making some tutorials video for Nuendo, I have had Nuendo for 2 years but still find it difficult to learn its many features. Thanks for a great comparison 👍
Hey, Nuendo got lanes, which work exactly same as playlists in PT? :) Clip gain operated with mouse wheel feels great to me, but surely it's not for everybody ;)
Yes, I know that this video is about comparing ProTools Ultimate, and Nuendo. Despite this, there is one important comment to make in deciding whether to switch. Nuendo is, for all intentions and purposes, Cubase Pro, with a Buch of specialised features for audio for movie/video post production, game audio etc. Thus there is little to no benefit to upgrade from Cubase Pro to Nuendo for pure music production. I'm not familiar with ProTools, but as far as I understand, there are benefits for music production to upgrade all the way to Ultimate. So if you plan to switch, the first thing you need to ask yourself is what you will use it for. Do you do audio for video, gaming, etc, then Nuendo is right for you. If you only do music recording, it's NOT! You might just as well save your money, and go for Cubase Pro (which is half the cost). If you, at a later date, decide that you do need the Nuendo features, the upgrade cost from Cubase Pro to Nuendo is exactly the price difference. So you will loose nothing! I've seen many people choosing Nuendop over Cubase Prop, believing that it must be twice as good because it's twice the price. Not realising that they've only wasted money on features they'll never use!
I can testify to pro tools stability issues and inconsistency with my pro tools 10 I had built a new computer with AMD processors and video card had installed all my software and plugins from other companies like Adobe FL Studio reason cubase but every time I installed pro tools a crash my computer to a blue screen I had did this five times before eventually I figured out that it was pro tools do this very day I haven't installed it back because I can't go through the work of installing every other software and all their authentications because of one software This was absolutely ridiculous I've never experienced anything like it!
Hi Paul, switched from Soundscape (decades ago😅) to Cubase, then to Protools, finally ended with Sequoia and Reaper. Reaper to me is the most flexible and stable options in case of DAW. Cubase - for my purposes - was too packed with stuff I didn't need
Switched from Ableton to Nuendo 11 and later downgraded to Cubase Pro. I mostly do music but have considered going back to Nuendo. Nuendo/Cubase was an enormous upgrade from Ableton - probably more so than PT to Nuendo, but happy to see that even PT users consider Nuendo a worthy DAW.
Hi Paul! I completely agree about all of you argument about pro tools and nuendo. But how about this? Im a student from Ukraine, I love the cinema and sound on post. But all says if i want get the job on a post production on the cinema or TV I should work only on PT. Because all of the studio and most TV company work only on PT. The same as dubbing for netflix or HBO for instance. So if I want building my career as a sound man on a sound post production for big projects, does pro tools so required element for me?
In Poland we have a couple of studios that switched to Nuendo. These studios do content for Netflix, cinema etc. So it's just a matter of Nuendo gaining popularity, hope it happens soon in Ukraine. Slava Ukraini!
you don´t need Nuendo - if you dont´need multichannel support, ADR, Post Pro, Fieldrecorder functions e.g. Cubase ist great for all music tasks and film score composing. BIG HINT: Nuendo updates costs 199,- (!!) in comparison to Cubase (99,-)
@@Byron101_I wanted to buy a DAW for audio post-production for films, and I bought Cubase 13 Pro. I was not aware of Nuendo, which is designed for post-production. Am I out of luck now? Can't afford the upgrade now.
I find Pro Tools generally smoother in operation. I have both, N13 and PT 2024. Loading plugins wihout interruption of audio stream is a huge plus for PT, also the sidechain approach is more logical (for me at least), just two things. N13 interface still look a little childish to me and somehow messed up, spaces, characters, etc. They have +-, but overall I lean on the PT side for now.
i still have a hard time with getting reliable tempo maps in nuendo, i can do it so much faster in pro tools with the indentify beat dialog in pro tools. everything else is equal in my experience
Pro Tools has always been crap to use for us old hardened users, and Cakewalk too with it's limitations. Pro Tools was only used for swapping jobs between studios that were using it at the time. I did go to Logic until Apple dropped P.C. support. I didn't like Nuendo because of it's colour heirarchy, but have used it all the time along side Cubase Pro. P.S. Set your camera focus up, then set to manual, turn auto focus off, lock the camera down, it's not rocket science, lol.
I just deleted Cubase 13 from my main computer. I just find everything harder to do compared to Studio One 6. Protools seems so archaic after using most the modern daws.
S1 and Cubase are two of the best, Studio One definitely looks nicer in my opinion and is a little easier to use but both are great and I have a hard time not jumping back and forth.
@@ezrashantithat was the problem, I’d go back and forth between both daws as they are so similar. I made of a list of pros and cons between the two and realized the few things cubase does better isn’t important to me.
@@FoliaSound It's very nice to work in, but speaking to this video, Nuendo has many more deep features, especially re: post. Also, I saw your mixing on headphones and wanted to mention, I'm very impressed with the "headphones match" plugin in Nuendo and prefer it to SoundID which in my experience has always been, and still is buggy, too cpu-intensive, and the "flat" target curve is too dark sounding.
Personally, I'm thinking of doing the opposite. Why? 3 reasons. 1) No professional clip gain in Nuendo. It's horrible. 2) Mixers: impossible to change track order, no folder tracks (foldable and unfoldable). You always have to go back to the main window. This breaks the workflow. 3) Inconsistent design: from one window to the next, you jump from an old design to a new one, not to mention the fact that version 13's flat layout is not in keeping with the Steinberg style (it's Studio One style) and, with its overly strong white-black contrasts, forces you to strain your eyes. Very uncomfortable. I've got version 13 as a demo for 2 months and I'm not using it. I'm sticking with V12 to finish my Nuendo projects in Atmos, despite the first points, added to this one: the left-hand column that summarizes the tracks can't expand enough to display longer names. This at the twelfth version of a major DAW. One wonders.... But this has been corrected in V13. The fact remains that in Nuendo, we don't know what a clip gain is, and we're unable to program file tracks in mixers.
@@FoliaSound I'm talking about clip gain as in PT (and others: Studio One, Samplitude, etc). This is absent from Nuendo. Nuendo's clip gain only reduces, not increases volume, and with no indication in db. This is a handicap.
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Heeey! Planning to switch to nuendo from any DAW? Migrating to Pro Tools? Fine with something else? Lemme know down below, thanks!
former hardcore Pro Tools user here - Post Pro/Midi Score Composing/Soundesign/Recording/Mixing.
Since a few years I´m on: Nuendo. And finally very happy. Highly recommend... Nuendo = best daw. no doubt. ❤
Nice to hear that :) Thanks!
I switched from slowtools to Nuendo a few years ago, and I never regret it, Nuendo is just great.
I'm support Nuendo to the extent that I trust Steinberg more than Avid. That's reason enough. The more people support Nuendo, the better their software can become as well.
Trusting Avid and its policies is considered an extreme sport ;)
I switched from Pro Tools. A few reasons. 1. Surround without dedicated hardware. 2. Better midi 3. More updates. At the time Pro Tools had very few updates. Im not a pro though
I was a young lad in the year 2000 using Reason 2.5. A couple of years later, I met a dance music producer who was using cubase. I was impressed with the flexibility. Reason was only doing midi back then so recording audio was a big step ahead. So I switched to cubase. Then around 2007, when I had became a biiit more serious and knowledgeable, my needs “forced” me to switch to pro tools. Multitrack editing in pro tools was unbeatable for me. I used pro tools until 2014 but never had the fluency I managed to achieve with cubase. Sometimes I would still strike Cubase shortcut buttons 😂. Some years went by, and my needs grew even bigger. Three pro tools HD Accel rigs, running in the studio and suddenly…. HD cards were not supported any more, which is the normal evolution of technology, old things get forgotten, but the newer versions of pro tools had such cool features that I needed. HD systems were expensive and upgrading three of them was a lot of cash. I had to think my next move. I was so pissed back then, and mad at Avid 😂. Soooo…. I switched back to cubase and eventually Nuendo.
I had missed you and sorry for being away. The “industry” forced me.
I am now happier than ever and still see room for improvement, but the amount of tools Nuendo gives me, worth the extra tinkering and deepening the search into manuals and TH-cam videos.
Pro tools felt like a “know all” business partner, and Nuendo feels like the trustful local mechanic who knows more than the dealers themselves. I love it. 🥰
just got Nuendo 13 today. So excited to explore it.
It has so many features. Ill will be doing all my mixing and recording with N from hence forth!
Hello! Composer for theatre, film and TV here. I was a die-hard Pro Tools user up until around 2015. Now it's Nuendo forever!!! Such an immense piece of software, infinitely customisable. As you say, the philosophy around the program is different than Pro Tools, where you always "know what you get" since every setup of PT is more or less the same. But the power to tweak and mould the software into working exactly in the way you want - The combination of Project Logical Editor, macros and custom key commands - the possibilities are endless. Add to that the ADR and sound design features, video cut detection, reconform... Stuff that no other DAW has.
Thanks for the insights! One additional and very practical thing to mention is the HW utilization on a Mac M series computer: Nuendo maxes the use of cpu cores on the Mac M series where PT can only make use of the performance cores. Roughly this means you could run your Nuendo on a Mac mini where on PT you would need a Mac studio for the same performance. That price difference is huge! In the end what counts is your workflow and willingness to learn a DAW once again and spend the endless hours learning shortcuts and new workflows to suit your needs. Time is money. All is IMO.
Wow, I didn't know that, I'm a PC guy. Thanks!
Me too - and for 30 yrs 🙂but I had to buy a Mac because I'm on PT and needed to get going with Atmos. Here is a very detailed comparison of the most popular DAWs and the Mac M1-3 practical use:
th-cam.com/video/VFpCbT3Rx4Y/w-d-xo.html
Nuendo sound engine is INCREDIBLE!!! DEPTH!! STEREO!! MATH!!! AMAZING!!!
Nuendo is a great DAW hands down!
Paul, I thank you many times over. I have been a Nuendo user alone for over 20 years. Your video was very well (& frank) as to the 'why Nuendo'. To my need (which can greatly vary by user need), always makes me feel like I'm forever trying to chase a train that gets faster & faster. But again, those working light years ahead love how fast the Nuendo design team pushes ahead. Just a quick thanks for your sincere video work! PLEASE, continue to spread the faith....we know how wonderful Nuendo works!
Semper Fidelity, Joe Blasingame, AE & P
Hey, Joseph, thanks a lot, man! "Zone Of Interest", which got an Oscar for soud this year, is the first awarded picture mixed down in Nuendo, so we're getting really closer and closer to become the second standard next to PT. Cheers, good to have you here!
I totally agree! I have use Nuendo since V1 early 2000 and I have used PT also. But I always want to convert all files to Nuendo. I have lots of gear and DSP, and Nuendo just works!
Same experience here!
Can you please start making some tutorials video for Nuendo, I have had Nuendo for 2 years but still find it difficult to learn its many features. Thanks for a great comparison 👍
I'll think about it!
Nuendo is the best and most complete DAW the I know of. Tell me I'm wrong!
I surely won't do that. Cheers!
I did the switch a few years back. I still miss some things (Playlist, the way clip gain works) but overall I love Nuendo.
Hey, Nuendo got lanes, which work exactly same as playlists in PT? :) Clip gain operated with mouse wheel feels great to me, but surely it's not for everybody ;)
Amo NUENDO 13, vengo usandolo desde la version 4, cambié a estudio one, pero volví a mi querido nuendo
I'm a PT guy, but damn that field recorder workflow in Nuendo is just so much better..
I’ve just bought Nuendo13 .. lol, been using pro tools since 2007.
Nuendo is great. Move to it after trying all available DAWs on the market.
Whoah, this is what I call a comment. Thanks!
Yes, I know that this video is about comparing ProTools Ultimate, and Nuendo. Despite this, there is one important comment to make in deciding whether to switch. Nuendo is, for all intentions and purposes, Cubase Pro, with a Buch of specialised features for audio for movie/video post production, game audio etc. Thus there is little to no benefit to upgrade from Cubase Pro to Nuendo for pure music production.
I'm not familiar with ProTools, but as far as I understand, there are benefits for music production to upgrade all the way to Ultimate. So if you plan to switch, the first thing you need to ask yourself is what you will use it for. Do you do audio for video, gaming, etc, then Nuendo is right for you. If you only do music recording, it's NOT! You might just as well save your money, and go for Cubase Pro (which is half the cost).
If you, at a later date, decide that you do need the Nuendo features, the upgrade cost from Cubase Pro to Nuendo is exactly the price difference. So you will loose nothing!
I've seen many people choosing Nuendop over Cubase Prop, believing that it must be twice as good because it's twice the price. Not realising that they've only wasted money on features they'll never use!
I can testify to pro tools stability issues and inconsistency with my pro tools 10 I had built a new computer with AMD processors and video card had installed all my software and plugins from other companies like Adobe FL Studio reason cubase but every time I installed pro tools a crash my computer to a blue screen I had did this five times before eventually I figured out that it was pro tools do this very day I haven't installed it back because I can't go through the work of installing every other software and all their authentications because of one software This was absolutely ridiculous I've never experienced anything like it!
superb show my friend
Thanks, James, good to see you back!
Hi Paul, switched from Soundscape (decades ago😅) to Cubase, then to Protools, finally ended with Sequoia and Reaper. Reaper to me is the most flexible and stable options in case of DAW. Cubase - for my purposes - was too packed with stuff I didn't need
So you surely won't need Nuendo, there's even more there ;) Sequoia is cool!
@@FoliaSound Sequoia is cool yet buggy (sometimes)😂
Switched from Ableton to Nuendo 11 and later downgraded to Cubase Pro. I mostly do music but have considered going back to Nuendo. Nuendo/Cubase was an enormous upgrade from Ableton - probably more so than PT to Nuendo, but happy to see that even PT users consider Nuendo a worthy DAW.
Nuendo is the most direct competitor for Pro Tools Ultimate. It's a post production monster first :)
Hi Paul! I completely agree about all of you argument about pro tools and nuendo. But how about this? Im a student from Ukraine, I love the cinema and sound on post. But all says if i want get the job on a post production on the cinema or TV I should work only on PT. Because all of the studio and most TV company work only on PT. The same as dubbing for netflix or HBO for instance. So if I want building my career as a sound man on a sound post production for big projects, does pro tools so required element for me?
In Poland we have a couple of studios that switched to Nuendo. These studios do content for Netflix, cinema etc. So it's just a matter of Nuendo gaining popularity, hope it happens soon in Ukraine. Slava Ukraini!
Great thanks, Dziękujemy! Niech żyje Polska!@@FoliaSound
welcome to the NUENDO club
I've been there since version 4, like 15 years so far ;)
Cubase pro user but I'm thinking nuendo... though I'm only music production.
You'll love Nuendo stability and all the spatial sound stuff!
you don´t need Nuendo - if you dont´need multichannel support, ADR, Post Pro, Fieldrecorder functions e.g.
Cubase ist great for all music tasks and film score composing.
BIG HINT: Nuendo updates costs 199,- (!!) in comparison to Cubase (99,-)
@@Byron101_I wanted to buy a DAW for audio post-production for films, and I bought Cubase 13 Pro. I was not aware of Nuendo, which is designed for post-production. Am I out of luck now? Can't afford the upgrade now.
I find Pro Tools generally smoother in operation. I have both, N13 and PT 2024. Loading plugins wihout interruption of audio stream is a huge plus for PT, also the sidechain approach is more logical (for me at least), just two things. N13 interface still look a little childish to me and somehow messed up, spaces, characters, etc. They have +-, but overall I lean on the PT side for now.
01 nuendo
02 cubase
03 studio one
04 ableton live
05 logic pro
06 pro tools
07 FL studio
I think its the order of the best ....
Niewiedzialem że jest aż tak dobrze w środowisku Nuendo po operacji przysiądę do niego
Oj, zdecydowanie!
@@FoliaSoundwspaniale
Nuendo 13 and studio one 6.6 are the two daws I use. But Nuendo mix is fuller
Any reaction of Nuendo vs Reason ?
Has Nuendo all the midi capabilities as Cubase?
( Switching possibly from Pro tools)
Yes. Nuendo is a buffed up Cubase.
Thank you very much@@RudalPL thanks!
If you search the internet you will maybe stumble upon the NEK. This was discontinued and now Nuendo includes ALL Cubase features!
@@ferdmusic8 thank you so much!
is pro tools still using mono side chain routing?
Switched from PT to Nuendo and NEVER going back!
i still have a hard time with getting reliable tempo maps in nuendo, i can do it so much faster in pro tools with the indentify beat dialog in pro tools. everything else is equal in my experience
Learn more about Real time tempo and Linear Tempo settings. You can get lectures on you tube
Pro Tools has always been crap to use for us old hardened users, and Cakewalk too with it's limitations. Pro Tools was only used for swapping jobs between studios that were using it at the time. I did go to Logic until Apple dropped P.C. support. I didn't like Nuendo because of it's colour heirarchy, but have used it all the time along side Cubase Pro.
P.S. Set your camera focus up, then set to manual, turn auto focus off, lock the camera down, it's not rocket science, lol.
I just deleted Cubase 13 from my main computer. I just find everything harder to do compared to Studio One 6. Protools seems so archaic after using most the modern daws.
S1 and Cubase are two of the best, Studio One definitely looks nicer in my opinion and is a little easier to use but both are great and I have a hard time not jumping back and forth.
I'll test S1 one day!
@@ezrashantithat was the problem, I’d go back and forth between both daws as they are so similar. I made of a list of pros and cons between the two and realized the few things cubase does better isn’t important to me.
@@FoliaSoundNice! That would make a good video 😉
@@FoliaSound It's very nice to work in, but speaking to this video, Nuendo has many more deep features, especially re: post.
Also, I saw your mixing on headphones and wanted to mention, I'm very impressed with the "headphones match" plugin in Nuendo and prefer it to SoundID which in my experience has always been, and still is buggy, too cpu-intensive, and the "flat" target curve is too dark sounding.
Personally, I'm thinking of doing the opposite. Why? 3 reasons. 1) No professional clip gain in Nuendo. It's horrible. 2) Mixers: impossible to change track order, no folder tracks (foldable and unfoldable). You always have to go back to the main window. This breaks the workflow. 3) Inconsistent design: from one window to the next, you jump from an old design to a new one, not to mention the fact that version 13's flat layout is not in keeping with the Steinberg style (it's Studio One style) and, with its overly strong white-black contrasts, forces you to strain your eyes. Very uncomfortable. I've got version 13 as a demo for 2 months and I'm not using it. I'm sticking with V12 to finish my Nuendo projects in Atmos, despite the first points, added to this one: the left-hand column that summarizes the tracks can't expand enough to display longer names. This at the twelfth version of a major DAW. One wonders.... But this has been corrected in V13. The fact remains that in Nuendo, we don't know what a clip gain is, and we're unable to program file tracks in mixers.
Sure thing, your user experience is albolutely legit, I'm just wondering: what about these clip gains? They seem absolutely great to me :)
@@FoliaSound I'm talking about clip gain as in PT (and others: Studio One, Samplitude, etc). This is absent from Nuendo. Nuendo's clip gain only reduces, not increases volume, and with no indication in db. This is a handicap.