This list is 100% spot on, dude. I can't think of a single game I'd like to add, remove, or change the position of. Love that you included Rally Speedway and Racing Destruction Set, and that high up. We played those games to death when we were teens.
My top 3 are Pitstop 2, Turbocharge and Test Drive 2, but this is a great list. I didn't get to play the full Turbocharge until the end of 2018, on the C64 mini, while my left hand was in a cast after thumb surgery, and loved it (I had only played the Commodore Format demo when I was a kid). And, the first game I played on my actual C64 (over 30 years ago), was Pitstop 2, so that game will always have a large place in my heart. Thank you for the list, awesome job!
@@oldstylegaming you know what I really like about this channel though? You respond, and reply, to every comment put up. Good, bad or indifferent, you take the time to reply. You make us all feel part of your channel. So, thank you OSG.
The C64 conversion of LED Storm was pretty good too... oh and Burnin' Rubber was pretty decent too, at least for an early C64 racer. Rally Cross (The one from Codemasters, not Anco) was also pretty decent once you get the hang of the controls
I never had a c64. Went from spectrum to Amiga. These videos make me realize what a great machine it was and that I have some catching up to do. Some truly amazing games here.
My parents simply couldn’t afford the Commodore 64 so Spectrum Plus was the home computer they ended up getting (the 128K Spectrum didn’t exist at the time).
@@Epimundo Isn't that the main attraction of car racing ? Watching cars (and their drivers) explode ? I personally would prefer the classic gladiator stuff with swords and lions etc, but that's unfortunately currently offered nowhere, not even on Netflix or Amazon (haven't yet checked Disney).
Turbo Charge was one of the last games I bought for my C64 while it was current and it was clear that Chris Butler had squeezed every bit of power from the old breadbin at that point. The game is incredibly refined and could have passed as an arcade conversion. Other C64 racing games I like: Outrun (NTSC), Outrun Europa, S.C.I, Badlands and F1GP Circuit (obscure Italian overhead racer that looks and plays a lot like Konami games such as F-1 Spirit or Road Fighter).
I think i played that F1GP it sort of reminded me of F1 Dream arcade but then i found it to linear as you never really went round corners...other than that the graphics were great
Buggy Boy, Stunt Car Racer, Powerdrift, Super Cars, Pitstop 2, Super Off Road, Turbo Outrun...aaah, happy days! This little lot were my favourite driving games, period. Top of the shop has to be Buggy Boy as I found it so bloody addictive. Nice to revisit some of these classic games though...a few I didn't know, while I'd completely forgotten about some of the others. Love your videos. Keep 'em coming. 👍👍👍
I missed Outrun. One of my first c64 games. Bought it on tape, and got the soundtrack with it for free. Great list and even seen some unknown titles. I think I would have added Badlands, but that's the only one I can think of now.
I have a playthrough of the US version on my channel. Martin Webb actually did both but had longer to work on the US version and i think it shows. He actually left a great comment on my original Outrun comparison video...sadly that comment went along with 312 videos that i had to delete so i could get re monetised .... sad times
Thanks for a great video, I haven't seen so many games I had as a kid but best of all seeing slicks high up in the list and best choice for stunt racer
I didnt think the C64 was blessed with loads of quality racing games. I loved Racing Destruction Set as you could make your own tracks and then race round them and I thought Buggy Boy was great. Stunt Car Racer was good but it could have done with being a bit faster. Incredible to think it ran at all on the C64.
@@oldstylegaming I recently decided to have a look at my beloved spectrum. I hesitated for this long because I wanted to preserve the memories and not ruin its legacy by seeing it with 40 year old eyes. But the temptation was too strong one night and I started to play. I thought I'd be on for less than an hour. Nope, played all night and loved it. It really surprised me how much fun I had with my old favourites like Jetpac, Rampage, R-Type, Horrace goes skiing, Silkworm, 3d Starstrike, Chucky egg etc etc. Those games are timeless. In fact just talking about them now make me want to go and fire it up again.
Awesome video man!! Racing Destruction Set was incredible, Test Drive deserve a better place to me. Speedking was another great game. Make the Amiga top 20 racing games.
I am proud to say I completed Stunt Car Racer back in early to mid nineties. Took a lot of hours, dedication and memorising the exact feel of each track construction. Still have my save on the floppy disc. Incredible game, way ahead of it's time and simply cannot age. Blows my mind how did they pull such a realistic 3D before 3D even was a thing. On a Commodore 64! Very pleased you placed it into top 1, since it was the exact first thing I thought of as soon as I saw the title of your video. BadLands should have been on this list though! Also Enduro Racer!! It is a serious sin not to place Enduro Racer into this list!
I think the one that was missing for me was BMX SIMULATOR. Always loved that as a kid. You should check it out if you haven't played it. Other than that - great work!
Wow good call! I had BMX Simulator, one of Codemasters first games if I recall? Was great fun and two player as well. Also, does anyone remember Kickstart? Very retro but nostalgic thinking about it.
Buggy boy! Yes! That was the one! Loved that game. I never played that Stunt Racer but I had one similar that was going over sand dunes instead and it was in a buggy too, but I can never remember it's name. Great video 👏
I played a lot of Pitstop 1&2, Pole Position, Great American CC Racing, Talladega (Richard Petty’s), Test Drive. I really liked 4x4 Off Road Racing. Also played a lot of LeMans when I was even younger lol. Good times!
No super or championship sprint Paul? Love those... Always remember Scalextric as well, had a great intro and wasn’t that bad in 2 player mode... Some great looking games I’ll try there though👍
After watching I was surprised that I'd only played just 1 game off this list, Pitstop II. Of course I'm familar with almost all of em but only on Amiga. When I upgraded I sadly completely forgot about the old C64 so when I see these great little ports I'm pleasantly surprised how good they are! Games like Test Drive and Buggy Boy look great, and of course the mighty Stunt Car Racer! Great list m8 :)
Yeah Lucas a lot of these classics were overlooked as the Amiga rocked when it came to car games...im on with that video now....its Awesome already and thats just the games off the top of my head
Slicks for me looks awesome! And that Racing Destruction Set must be very cool. Never was a fan of "sim" racing games on 8-bit platfoms. But always loved that funny top (or cabinet) view racing arcades!
Good list. Lotus goes near the top for me and I'd maybe add Continental Circus and Cisco Heat (joke!). You might want to check out The Cycles if you haven't already. I feel it's clearly the best motorbike sim on the C64 although very similar to Grand Prix Circuit.
Super cycle looked really cool. I'm a huge Hang-on! /Super hang-on! Fan, it never even occurred to me that they'd have something like this on C64. My neighbor had a Commodore growing up but I never saw this. Now I'm going to have to check this out.
When the video came up in my playlist I had few games that needed to be on this list for me...Buggy Boy, Power Drift, Pitstop 2 and of course Stunt Car Racer. For a moment I thought you may have left Stunt Car Racer off the list, but you did not let me down as always.😊 Well you certainly ticked all the boxes for me👍 I still sank too many hours in to Give my Regards to Broadstreet though😥
Thought you might struggle myself only to be pleasantly surprised. Nice selection. Actually turns out 20 is not enough. Had to leave out the likes of Lotus and the other Outrun titles. Eat humble pie Al Bundy or what ever your name is.
lol hes a great guy mate...it was just friendly banter, hes been there for me when ive had dilemmas like my channel being demonetised and TH-cam partners trying to rip me off
ok, i'm really glad you put hot rod in there, but i would have had it higher, you did mention it, but i would have had supersprint in there, but no one can argue about stunt car racer
Hot Rod is a weird one...its really slow...but still fun, if it had been a bit faster id have had it higher...in game music is nice...graphics are awesome for a top down
Great list! Hot Rod looks like a really close conversion of the arcade game. Definitely need to try that! Surprised to not see Kikstart II on the list but I guess you might not call that a straightforward racing game. I'd also have considered Speed King and Formula 1 Simulator for the list I think, and the conversion of S.C.I. was decent.
Kickstart was in the list but I took it back out for the reason you say...it's a weird one though as I love the fam but I think is more a skill game but like atv etc
TURBO CHARGE!! Oh shhiiiit! You just unlocked a memory in my head thats been hiiden in my brain for 30 years! Loves that game!! First game il get when i get a c64 mini. Wow! Blown away...
I bought recently C64 and Sd card reader (SD2IEC) for it. So i will for sure play in some of those games. Anyway i think you should reconsider to do a series like : TOP 20 2 players games for .......... C64/Amiga and so on. It would be really helpfull. Great content like always.
Ill put that on the list, i did do a best multiplayer series before i had channel Armageddon and deleted 312 vids... ill redo cos that is something i sometimes search for to play games with my son...good shout
I loved this video, watched it all the way through. I have to agree, although I’m relatively new to the C64, during my midlife discovery, Stunt Car Racer is very impressive as is Grand Prix Circuit. Great work 👍🏻
"videogames are bad because they don't reflect reality" my mother used to say when I was addicted to my C64. Now I play modern realistic games and she says: "videogames are dangerous because they look so real"
I love racing games in general, and on C64 as well. Read about Rally Speedway few years ago, and I immediately recognized Micro Machines concept (and that is one of my favorites). RS is amazing, having 2 player simultaneous play + track construction kit! Graphics is not essential, but then again - I wonder if this little game can be nice for modding, changing the graphics to some cool and varied char tiles? Nobody tried, but it might happen in the future. And it sure may be used as a mold (game engine) for some new games written from scratch! This IS MMachines for C64 (dual play!) I love futuristic racing, and one interesting game is FURY done by Martech! Has cool music and aura in the intro control screens, and racing seems basic and simple, but is about weapons and equipment, and money collected by racing... usual tropes in extreme racers that came IN THE NEXT DECADE! Important game, but not accepted well. Check it. Pit Stop 2 is awesome, best for me. Power Drift made my jaw drop when I played it first time. And Super Cycle looks incredible, but probably needed some good tweaking in gameplay area - some part II would've made it the greatest, but it never happened. Game engine is fabulous, so smooth, nice looking and fast! I don't dare asking for 2-player option, that would be out of this 8-bit world.
Great list and games! Good video and your commentary is spot on. Very grateful that C64 Stunt Car Racer was recently ported to A8bit. Rally Speedway is indeed great fun. Racing Destruction set is deeper and fun too but not as fast iirc nor as colorful unfortunately.
Wow man! There are some great hidden gems on the C64, Of course I loved Racing Destruction Set, Test Drive, Pitstop and my other favorite was Pole Position. I put many hours into that game when I was younger. I am going to check out the other ones I didn't know existed. I have had my C64 since new in the early 80's. And it still works like a champ today.
Brilliant mate ! You’ve got my four favourites on your list. And the absolutely best on top. I’ve put a gross amount of hours into that game , Hahahaha.
Ahh such nostalgia. I recall buying Stunt Car Racer on a whim. I had some birthday money to spend on a game, and I'd not even heard of this game before, just saw it in the shops and purchased it. C64 gaming could be a lottery and it was risky to just buy from the packaging alone. But I took the risk and was rewarded with the most amazing game that pushed the C64 to it's limits, delivering playability and graphics that could only be dreamed of on the system. Later when I upgraded to Amiga I had countless hours of fun with STR on that system too. I would have I included Outrun on the list - it was better than many gave it credit for, was fast and playable. The major disappointment for me was the lack of forks in the road, which was one of the most fun parts of the arcade game, being able to choose your route. I remember being so disappointed that the C64 version simply did not have them for whatever reason. It was much better than the lame Amiga attempt though!
Kickstart 2 is a weird one as i dont really class it as racing...even though it is...i see it more of a skill game..nether the less its a brilliant game
Really good video thanks!!! I would have had continental circus on the list as an arcade conversion to 8 bit it's really impressive, controls well, fair challenge and even attempts a bit of rain thrown in...plus the comedy pit stops 😆😆
I think Speed King should have made the list rather than Super Cycle. I played a lot of Super Cycle back in the day and enjoyed it at the time, but the way it throws you violently to the sides on every corner is so frustrating. And the only way to tell what corner was coming up was the centre line having one pixel switch sides as it mirrored the graphics was annoying. Apart from that, a great list!
It was me that got you to play slicks. Bet your glad I did because it is a great game like you said. Another great video, you should be proud of youself
yeah Night Racer nearly made it on the list, i played it a few times...it was one of the ones jostling about around the 20th place...but then TD2 took it for nostalgia reasons
@@RetroRelixRestorer I look though loads of clips cross matched with lemon 64 then get 50 games (if possible) then play them and whittle it down to 20 mate :-)
It will be high up on the Amiga list mate thats for sure...but i never thought the C64 quite managed to pull off the sense of speed in that game...graphics wise it was special...but the sense of speed is all important in that type of view racer
Nice compilation! (but Turbo Outrun to me wins, hands down :) PS: if you want to try something REALLY sick, run Stunt Car Racer in an emulator - then increase the speed
Out of the 7 games, only 3 attempted to draw hills. Now, it certainly IS a problem sinc the coder has to pick chars out of the charset to produce hill but for some reason, I thought more had attempted it. I was actually offered a job in London to convert Trans--am to the NES and I intended to produce hills in the same manner as the few examples above but then I got an interview with Core Design and stayed there. The people in London were really pissed off because even though no contract or even handshake had taken place, they had PRESUMED I would work for them and had got money out of the publishers because they claimed to have a 'top notch C64 coder on the job'. I'm NOT tip top and I did not like their attitude or working in London..... So I wrote Thunderhawk instead.
The great american cross country road race was amazing, super cycle was amazing, racing destruction you could build your own track and pick your own cars too. Grand prix circuit was amazing it should have been higher, the day i got buggy boy i played it for 8 hours straight. pitstop was great where you had to change your own tyre's etc. great list, just dont fully agree with no 1
There are so many 2D top down racers in this list. I do think Larry Bundy Jr was thinking about 3D racers when he asked Old Style Gaming to make this video (list). Would Chase HQ and Wec Le Mans make it to that list?
Chase HQ and Wec Lamans are not only two of the worst games on the c64 but also two of the worst racing games in any system so no they would never make it into this list in a million years....I'd out Larry's suggestion of toobin on before them lol
To have test drive 2 at 20th place is testiment to just how good the c=64 racers were. On a separate note, to have over 7,000 views within a month of releasing this video is testament to just how suprisingly popular the c=64 still is. Lastly to use the word testament twice in a 3 sentence post is testament to how much I love the word and testament to how much I try to sound smart 🤭
wasn't especially great but used to spend hours on talladega. Proper rage inducer when the muppet ai orange demon car glances a pixel near you and makes you explode 27 laps into a 30 lap race
There was also Formula 1 Simulator by Mastertronic, a very forgettable no frills racing game with below average graphics not a great deal better than Pole Position on the Atari 2600, but it was arguably still worth £1.99 because of the awesome Rob Hubbard soundtrack.
Is Kikstart II not considered a racing game? I know its not a traditional one but you are racing & its better than all these 20 combined. Great vid tho
I had kickstart 2 in the shortlist...and it would have been pretty high on the list but then I decided it was more of a skill race game ...so it never made it...I love that game though
revs only 17 on the list that's made me sad and disappointed, revs was my fav especially after i won on professional level, though i only managed it the once, , but respect on the other top games racing destruction set and Stunt car racer.......just my opinion but RDS for me certainly deserves some kind of remaster or sequel because there is nothing like that now.......somebodies definately missed a trick here.....thx 4 the memories anyway despite placing revs so low......btw both revs and stunt car racer ..were created by the same programmer, the ledge Geoff Crammond
This might be one of the only genres where I don't have a favourite on the C64! The C64 was good at a lot of stuff but racing games just wasn't one of them..
Turbo charge reminds me of the driving sections from Vendetta. That's a game I'd like to play again, can anyone point me in the direction of a good emulator/roms?
It wouldn't surprise me if Vendetta influenced Turbo Charge, but the former was by Stanley Schembri, whereas the latter was a Chris Butler joint, and he also wrote the excellent Power Drift.
I'm still disapointed you didn't put Toobin' on the list, after all your praising of the game to me :D
Erm.... That was you who was trying to pass a game were you are in rubber rings going down the rapids as a racing game lol....I said no haha
@Lassi Kinnunen Not sure about Marble Madness but Trailblazer definitely is! 😉
But... Not a vehicle racing game though...maybe I should have stipulated that lol
@@oldstylegaming you could also have Eidolon as a racing game as you race around caverns killing dragons.
@@oldstylegaming This would at least qualify Elite as a racing game.
This list is 100% spot on, dude. I can't think of a single game I'd like to add, remove, or change the position of. Love that you included Rally Speedway and Racing Destruction Set, and that high up. We played those games to death when we were teens.
Couldn't not include them they were part of my childhood :-)
My top 3 are Pitstop 2, Turbocharge and Test Drive 2, but this is a great list. I didn't get to play the full Turbocharge until the end of 2018, on the C64 mini, while my left hand was in a cast after thumb surgery, and loved it (I had only played the Commodore Format demo when I was a kid). And, the first game I played on my actual C64 (over 30 years ago), was Pitstop 2, so that game will always have a large place in my heart. Thank you for the list, awesome job!
Thanks mate...i love hearing other peoples nostalgic memories
@@oldstylegaming you know what I really like about this channel though? You respond, and reply, to every comment put up. Good, bad or indifferent, you take the time to reply. You make us all feel part of your channel. So, thank you OSG.
The C64 conversion of LED Storm was pretty good too... oh and Burnin' Rubber was pretty decent too, at least for an early C64 racer. Rally Cross (The one from Codemasters, not Anco) was also pretty decent once you get the hang of the controls
MY vote goes with LED Storm. great music - good gfx and very playable.
@@thewilds9384 Of course LED had great music, it was done by Tim Follin. LOL
I never had a c64. Went from spectrum to Amiga. These videos make me realize what a great machine it was and that I have some catching up to do. Some truly amazing games here.
Yeah mate you missed out
My parents simply couldn’t afford the Commodore 64 so Spectrum Plus was the home computer they ended up getting (the 128K Spectrum didn’t exist at the time).
Richard Petty's Talladega was pretty good. Doesn't look like much, but pretty fast, good controls and plays quite nice.
Yeah I used to like it. It was epic when you had to do like thirty laps. I loved that
Very unforgiving, thats the only "downstep"... one touch and you EXPLODE haha.
@@Epimundo
Isn't that the main attraction of car racing ? Watching cars (and their drivers) explode ?
I personally would prefer the classic gladiator stuff with swords and lions etc, but that's unfortunately currently offered nowhere, not even on Netflix or Amazon (haven't yet checked Disney).
Turbo Charge was one of the last games I bought for my C64 while it was current and it was clear that Chris Butler had squeezed every bit of power from the old breadbin at that point. The game is incredibly refined and could have passed as an arcade conversion. Other C64 racing games I like: Outrun (NTSC), Outrun Europa, S.C.I, Badlands and F1GP Circuit (obscure Italian overhead racer that looks and plays a lot like Konami games such as F-1 Spirit or Road Fighter).
I think i played that F1GP it sort of reminded me of F1 Dream arcade but then i found it to linear as you never really went round corners...other than that the graphics were great
Buggy Boy, Stunt Car Racer, Powerdrift, Super Cars, Pitstop 2, Super Off Road, Turbo Outrun...aaah, happy days! This little lot were my favourite driving games, period. Top of the shop has to be Buggy Boy as I found it so bloody addictive. Nice to revisit some of these classic games though...a few I didn't know, while I'd completely forgotten about some of the others. Love your videos. Keep 'em coming. 👍👍👍
thanks mate
@@oldstylegaming No problem, bud.
(no spoiler comment) Fully agree w your #1 pick! I probably played that game more than ANY other on my C64. Loads fast, tons of fun. Great list!
It could only be stunt car racer at the top of the list. Epic game.
A few here I've never heard of. Gonna try them next time i fire up the c64 mini.
Yeah at first when i started doing this i was a bit worried that i would struggle...but hey the C64 came good again :-)
Agreed... only one that could take first.
I missed Outrun. One of my first c64 games. Bought it on tape, and got the soundtrack with it for free. Great list and even seen some unknown titles. I think I would have added Badlands, but that's the only one I can think of now.
Yeah, Outrun for sure. I remember back in the day it was a huge let down, but nowadays I love playing it for pure nostalgic reasons :-)
I have a playthrough of the US version on my channel. Martin Webb actually did both but had longer to work on the US version and i think it shows. He actually left a great comment on my original Outrun comparison video...sadly that comment went along with 312 videos that i had to delete so i could get re monetised .... sad times
Thanks for a great video, I haven't seen so many games I had as a kid but best of all seeing slicks high up in the list and best choice for stunt racer
I didn’t think it could be done, but you managed to do it....... 20 decent racers for the c64. Impressive.
The sounds levels are perfect now. Thanks for making me aware of some classics here I'd missed like Slicks and Rally Speedway.
Yeah I reduced the game volume by 50 percent ...it was really loud through headphones ...sorry about that
Top Three are solid. I loved to change gravity to „moon“ for insane long jumps in the Racing destruction set back when I was young.
I didnt think the C64 was blessed with loads of quality racing games. I loved Racing Destruction Set as you could make your own tracks and then race round them and I thought Buggy Boy was great. Stunt Car Racer was good but it could have done with being a bit faster. Incredible to think it ran at all on the C64.
Mate its even good on the spectrum
The only thing that annoyed me about stunt car racer was that bloody damage bar
the damage bar is ok as long as you are gentle
Another awesome list here and Power Drift! So good on C64 and the Spectrum
Im gonna carry on with these genre series' i might actually cover the speccy....and maybe even the amsrad ....
@@oldstylegaming Please cover the Spectrum and also show how good Chase HQ was on that system!!!!
I will do mate 128 version though, i did a lot of videos when i first started and i marked the spectrum down a lot because i was playing the 48k
@@oldstylegaming I recently decided to have a look at my beloved spectrum. I hesitated for this long because I wanted to preserve the memories and not ruin its legacy by seeing it with 40 year old eyes. But the temptation was too strong one night and I started to play. I thought I'd be on for less than an hour. Nope, played all night and loved it. It really surprised me how much fun I had with my old favourites like Jetpac, Rampage, R-Type, Horrace goes skiing, Silkworm, 3d Starstrike, Chucky egg etc etc. Those games are timeless. In fact just talking about them now make me want to go and fire it up again.
And so shite on the Amiga. LMAO
Awesome video man!! Racing Destruction Set was incredible, Test Drive deserve a better place to me. Speedking was another great game. Make the Amiga top 20 racing games.
hahaha it was already in the making when i started this video
I am proud to say I completed Stunt Car Racer back in early to mid nineties. Took a lot of hours, dedication and memorising the exact feel of each track construction. Still have my save on the floppy disc. Incredible game, way ahead of it's time and simply cannot age. Blows my mind how did they pull such a realistic 3D before 3D even was a thing. On a Commodore 64! Very pleased you placed it into top 1, since it was the exact first thing I thought of as soon as I saw the title of your video. BadLands should have been on this list though! Also Enduro Racer!! It is a serious sin not to place Enduro Racer into this list!
I think the one that was missing for me was BMX SIMULATOR. Always loved that as a kid. You should check it out if you haven't played it. Other than that - great work!
Wow good call! I had BMX Simulator, one of Codemasters first games if I recall? Was great fun and two player as well.
Also, does anyone remember Kickstart? Very retro but nostalgic thinking about it.
Buggy boy! Yes! That was the one! Loved that game. I never played that Stunt Racer but I had one similar that was going over sand dunes instead and it was in a buggy too, but I can never remember it's name. Great video 👏
I'll have a think about what that game could be mate
@@oldstylegaming Cheers OSG
I played a lot of Pitstop 1&2, Pole Position, Great American CC Racing, Talladega (Richard Petty’s), Test Drive. I really liked 4x4 Off Road Racing. Also played a lot of LeMans when I was even younger lol. Good times!
No super or championship sprint Paul? Love those...
Always remember Scalextric as well, had a great intro and wasn’t that bad in 2 player mode...
Some great looking games I’ll try there though👍
Yeah I'm not that keen on super Sprint on this tbh I think Indy heat it far better ...I had scalextric too
After watching I was surprised that I'd only played just 1 game off this list, Pitstop II. Of course I'm familar with almost all of em but only on Amiga. When I upgraded I sadly completely forgot about the old C64 so when I see these great little ports I'm pleasantly surprised how good they are! Games like Test Drive and Buggy Boy look great, and of course the mighty Stunt Car Racer! Great list m8 :)
Yeah Lucas a lot of these classics were overlooked as the Amiga rocked when it came to car games...im on with that video now....its Awesome already and thats just the games off the top of my head
@@oldstylegaming You doing same as this? top 20
@@Lucasrainford yeah 20 is just right for the time it takes me to play, record if i aint got them and voice over
Slicks for me looks awesome! And that Racing Destruction Set must be very cool. Never was a fan of "sim" racing games on 8-bit platfoms. But always loved that funny top (or cabinet) view racing arcades!
Good list. Lotus goes near the top for me and I'd maybe add Continental Circus and Cisco Heat (joke!). You might want to check out The Cycles if you haven't already. I feel it's clearly the best motorbike sim on the C64 although very similar to Grand Prix Circuit.
Super cycle looked really cool.
I'm a huge Hang-on! /Super hang-on! Fan, it never even occurred to me that they'd have something like this on C64.
My neighbor had a Commodore growing up but I never saw this.
Now I'm going to have to check this out.
When the video came up in my playlist I had few games that needed to be on this list for me...Buggy Boy, Power Drift, Pitstop 2 and of course Stunt Car Racer. For a moment I thought you may have left Stunt Car Racer off the list, but you did not let me down as always.😊
Well you certainly ticked all the boxes for me👍
I still sank too many hours in to Give my Regards to Broadstreet though😥
I could never leave Stunt Car Racer out..that would have been an epic fail
Rally Speedway was SO cool when I was a kid. I spent hours just making my own tracks.
its simple but good, i love the drifting round the corners, thats the bit that really reminds me of Micro Machines
Thought you might struggle myself only to be pleasantly surprised. Nice selection.
Actually turns out 20 is not enough. Had to leave out the likes of Lotus and the other Outrun titles.
Eat humble pie Al Bundy or what ever your name is.
or whatever your name is? you dont know Larry Bundy Jr? you should check out his channel mate
@@oldstylegaming I know Guru Larry....................I was taking him down a peg or two
lol hes a great guy mate...it was just friendly banter, hes been there for me when ive had dilemmas like my channel being demonetised and TH-cam partners trying to rip me off
To be honest, I don't think Chris Butler really made a bad game on the C64. He was pretty much to the C64 what Joffa Smith was to the Speccy.
ok, i'm really glad you put hot rod in there, but i would have had it higher, you did mention it, but i would have had supersprint in there, but no one can argue about stunt car racer
Hot Rod is a weird one...its really slow...but still fun, if it had been a bit faster id have had it higher...in game music is nice...graphics are awesome for a top down
Super sprint. The very first c64 game I had.
Stunt Car Racer was superb on every single format, including the Spectrum!
it was mate
Nice to see the vid back up an I can watch the rest of it. Great vid as always buddy, roll on the next one 😊
sorry i had to take it down mate, i made a mistake so had to put it right
Great list! Hot Rod looks like a really close conversion of the arcade game. Definitely need to try that! Surprised to not see Kikstart II on the list but I guess you might not call that a straightforward racing game. I'd also have considered Speed King and Formula 1 Simulator for the list I think, and the conversion of S.C.I. was decent.
Kickstart was in the list but I took it back out for the reason you say...it's a weird one though as I love the fam but I think is more a skill game but like atv etc
TURBO CHARGE!! Oh shhiiiit! You just unlocked a memory in my head thats been hiiden in my brain for 30 years! Loves that game!! First game il get when i get a c64 mini. Wow! Blown away...
Thank God Stunt Car Racer is No 1, it’s my favourite most played C64 game of all time 👍🏻. Would’ve personally put Power Drift at No 2 however lol.
I think it's hard to narrow down a top 3. There were some quality racers on the c64. And just quality games in general.
yeah everyone will have a different order or will have some favourites that ive had to leave out...just shows what an Awesome machine the C64 was/is
I bought recently C64 and Sd card reader (SD2IEC) for it. So i will for sure play in some of those games. Anyway i think you should reconsider to do a series like : TOP 20 2 players games for .......... C64/Amiga and so on. It would be really helpfull. Great content like always.
Ill put that on the list, i did do a best multiplayer series before i had channel Armageddon and deleted 312 vids... ill redo cos that is something i sometimes search for to play games with my son...good shout
This youtube channel is the most underrated ever IMO. Excellent video as always
Wow, thank you! these kind words mean a lot to me :-)
Agreed
I loved this video, watched it all the way through. I have to agree, although I’m relatively new to the C64, during my midlife discovery, Stunt Car Racer is very impressive as is Grand Prix Circuit. Great work 👍🏻
"videogames are bad because they don't reflect reality" my mother used to say when I was addicted to my C64. Now I play modern realistic games and she says: "videogames are dangerous because they look so real"
Lol
I love racing games in general, and on C64 as well. Read about Rally Speedway few years ago, and I immediately recognized Micro Machines concept (and that is one of my favorites). RS is amazing, having 2 player simultaneous play + track construction kit! Graphics is not essential, but then again - I wonder if this little game can be nice for modding, changing the graphics to some cool and varied char tiles? Nobody tried, but it might happen in the future. And it sure may be used as a mold (game engine) for some new games written from scratch! This IS MMachines for C64 (dual play!)
I love futuristic racing, and one interesting game is FURY done by Martech! Has cool music and aura in the intro control screens, and racing seems basic and simple, but is about weapons and equipment, and money collected by racing... usual tropes in extreme racers that came IN THE NEXT DECADE! Important game, but not accepted well. Check it.
Pit Stop 2 is awesome, best for me. Power Drift made my jaw drop when I played it first time. And Super Cycle looks incredible, but probably needed some good tweaking in gameplay area - some part II would've made it the greatest, but it never happened. Game engine is fabulous, so smooth, nice looking and fast! I don't dare asking for 2-player option, that would be out of this 8-bit world.
Great list and games! Good video and your commentary is spot on. Very grateful that C64 Stunt Car Racer was recently ported to A8bit. Rally Speedway is indeed great fun. Racing Destruction set is deeper and fun too but not as fast iirc nor as colorful unfortunately.
Wow man! There are some great hidden gems on the C64, Of course I loved Racing Destruction Set, Test Drive, Pitstop and my other favorite was Pole Position. I put many hours into that game when I was younger. I am going to check out the other ones I didn't know existed. I have had my C64 since new in the early 80's. And it still works like a champ today.
That's cos they were built to last
@@oldstylegaming For sure man! It really was my first gaming system. lol
Just felt like I had to comment that I really enjoy your vids about the games of the C64. Keep it up.
Thanks mate
Brilliant mate ! You’ve got my four favourites on your list. And the absolutely best on top. I’ve put a gross amount of hours into that game , Hahahaha.
Me too mate I played it for a good hour when recording this footage lol
Ahh such nostalgia. I recall buying Stunt Car Racer on a whim. I had some birthday money to spend on a game, and I'd not even heard of this game before, just saw it in the shops and purchased it. C64 gaming could be a lottery and it was risky to just buy from the packaging alone. But I took the risk and was rewarded with the most amazing game that pushed the C64 to it's limits, delivering playability and graphics that could only be dreamed of on the system. Later when I upgraded to Amiga I had countless hours of fun with STR on that system too.
I would have I included Outrun on the list - it was better than many gave it credit for, was fast and playable. The major disappointment for me was the lack of forks in the road, which was one of the most fun parts of the arcade game, being able to choose your route. I remember being so disappointed that the C64 version simply did not have them for whatever reason. It was much better than the lame Amiga attempt though!
The US version was better I thought
Loving this channel - probably my fave UK based Retro Gaming channel. I would've included Trailblazer and Kikstart 2.
Kickstart 2 is a weird one as i dont really class it as racing...even though it is...i see it more of a skill game..nether the less its a brilliant game
Really good video thanks!!! I would have had continental circus on the list as an arcade conversion to 8 bit it's really impressive, controls well, fair challenge and even attempts a bit of rain thrown in...plus the comedy pit stops 😆😆
Lol
Nice ranking, i didn't Heard about some of these games. Thanks!
I think Speed King should have made the list rather than Super Cycle. I played a lot of Super Cycle back in the day and enjoyed it at the time, but the way it throws you violently to the sides on every corner is so frustrating. And the only way to tell what corner was coming up was the centre line having one pixel switch sides as it mirrored the graphics was annoying. Apart from that, a great list!
Thanks for reminding me about Rally Speedway. I played that so much as a kid.
Great game
Speedking was my personal favorite, a MotoGP game. Although Stunt Car Racer and Kickstart 2 were also fun.
Stunt Car Racer could easily be mistaken for the Miggy version, incredible!!!
Nice racer was a classic for how smooth the framerate was. You should give it a look! x
Remember the Cross country road race loved Turbo Outrun the music was awesome and Power drift brilliant it was and Buggy Boy great fun
Some great driving games here, thanks for making this vid! :)
It was me that got you to play slicks. Bet your glad I did because it is a great game like you said. Another great video, you should be proud of youself
I friggin love that game played it for another couple of hours last night while recording thanks mate :-)
@@oldstylegaming no worries. I must of played that game to death. I know I keep asking but I would love a cd32 compilation?
as in the best CD32 games?
@@oldstylegaming yeh. Or the worst. Or both haha. If you do, please put in the start up music for the cd32. IT SENDS SHIVERS DOWN MY SPINE lolol
Nice video, might have to download a few of these.
Really good, Stunt Car Racer had to be first; but what about Mastertronic’s Night Racer - thought it was really quite good 👍
yeah Night Racer nearly made it on the list, i played it a few times...it was one of the ones jostling about around the 20th place...but then TD2 took it for nostalgia reasons
old style gaming Glad you at least considered it then 👍
@@RetroRelixRestorer I look though loads of clips cross matched with lemon 64 then get 50 games (if possible) then play them and whittle it down to 20 mate :-)
I have so much nostalgic love for Street Rod. 👍🏻
Another great video 👍
Thanks mate...and thanks for watching it means a lot to me
Never owned power drift but always hammered it at my mates house till his brother got home. Cant believe lotus turbo challenge isn't on the list
It will be high up on the Amiga list mate thats for sure...but i never thought the C64 quite managed to pull off the sense of speed in that game...graphics wise it was special...but the sense of speed is all important in that type of view racer
@@oldstylegaming best game on the amiga in my eyes
maybe mate...but SCR was also great on there...we all know they will be 1st and 2nd place lol
I love that you can tell that’s a Porsche on Test Drive
I know no.13 under the name ‘Ironman’s Speed Shop’. Fun game!
No love for Championship Sprint or BMX Simulator? Championship Sprint had a track editor too which blew my mind back in the day.
Pitstop 2 : THE GAME
No super sprint? Loved that game! Good choice for number 1
Nice compilation! (but Turbo Outrun to me wins, hands down :)
PS: if you want to try something REALLY sick, run Stunt Car Racer in an emulator - then increase the speed
Bloody brilliant!
:-)
Ivan Stewart is so fun in the arcade!
Scalextric was good. Like pitstop ii but you could design your own tracks.
Out of the 7 games, only 3 attempted to draw hills. Now, it certainly IS a problem sinc the coder has to pick chars out of the charset to produce hill but for some reason, I thought more had attempted it.
I was actually offered a job in London to convert Trans--am to the NES and I intended to produce hills in the same manner as the few examples above but then I got an interview with Core Design and stayed there.
The people in London were really pissed off because even though no contract or even handshake had taken place, they had PRESUMED I would work for them and had got money out of the publishers because they claimed to have a 'top notch C64 coder on the job'.
I'm NOT tip top and I did not like their attitude or working in London.....
So I wrote Thunderhawk instead.
Thunder hawk by atlantis?
@@oldstylegaming th-cam.com/video/VMWZO9DNEMA/w-d-xo.html
No Shirley Muldowney Top Fuel Dragster???
sorry no, i have played it though but found it a little repetitive....i know its a drag sim but should have had a bit more depth
@@oldstylegaming True enough. I knew the woman and she had no say in the development.
The great american cross country road race was amazing, super cycle was amazing, racing destruction you could build your own track and pick your own cars too. Grand prix circuit was amazing it should have been higher, the day i got buggy boy i played it for 8 hours straight. pitstop was great where you had to change your own tyre's etc. great list, just dont fully agree with no 1
What you don't think stunt car racer is good?
@@oldstylegaming it's good but i think you could have swapped no 2 and no 1
There are so many 2D top down racers in this list. I do think Larry Bundy Jr was thinking about 3D racers when he asked Old Style Gaming to make this video (list). Would Chase HQ and Wec Le Mans make it to that list?
Erm.... Well I talked to Larry extensively when doing this list so he did ... He even wanted to include toobin ffs
Chase HQ and Wec Lamans are not only two of the worst games on the c64 but also two of the worst racing games in any system so no they would never make it into this list in a million years....I'd out Larry's suggestion of toobin on before them lol
There it is👍😁
Sorry man :-( just wanted it to be right
Sorry, no offense ment. thats good! Always delighted when I see new osg content👍 Pitstop II would be my alltime favorite. Great list, thanks!
I was a 464 head when I was younger but fair play and a tipped hat to the 64 because these games are really good👍but where's Bumpin Buggies 😁
Do you watch Xyphoe? hes a 464 streamer and hes class ...you should defo check him out if you havent already
Street Rod, starring RedLetterMedia's Rich Evans.
Imagine if the Super Cycle team had handled the Sega arcade racer ports....
To have test drive 2 at 20th place is testiment to just how good the c=64 racers were. On a separate note, to have over 7,000 views within a month of releasing this video is testament to just how suprisingly popular the c=64 still is. Lastly to use the word testament twice in a 3 sentence post is testament to how much I love the word and testament to how much I try to sound smart 🤭
Lol
You completely forgot about "Led Storm"
One of the best.
Revs is very good and stay up in this list not only number 15...
wasn't especially great but used to spend hours on talladega. Proper rage inducer when the muppet ai orange demon car glances a pixel near you and makes you explode 27 laps into a 30 lap race
Lol
Ha yeh. I hated that game but it kept pulling me back in with the thought of finishing a rsce
I really like that thing. I thought I was the only one remembering it. Not a looker, but quite addictive.
I used to enjoy Night racer from master tronic - I think it was a £2.99? Budget game but it was not bad at all.
There was also Formula 1 Simulator by Mastertronic, a very forgettable no frills racing game with below average graphics not a great deal better than Pole Position on the Atari 2600, but it was arguably still worth £1.99 because of the awesome Rob Hubbard soundtrack.
Powedrift wirh the old guy in the cart
Pitstop 2; plaed alot with my brother
thank you so much
Stunt car racer was smooth. But didn't it lack gameplay??
Code masters super rally cross was great fun
Only one I miss is Super Sprint.
Is Kikstart II not considered a racing game? I know its not a traditional one but you are racing & its better than all these 20 combined. Great vid tho
Are there more people whom loaded Turbo Outrun just to listen to the awesome intromusic?
I do that with loads of game, Turbo Outrun intro music was on another level though
Robocop was a favourite of mine for intro music
Kickstart2??!!! Stuntcar racer was Geoff Crammond too.
I had kickstart 2 in the shortlist...and it would have been pretty high on the list but then I decided it was more of a skill race game ...so it never made it...I love that game though
Slicks !!!
revs only 17 on the list that's made me sad and disappointed, revs was my fav especially after i won on professional level, though i only managed it the once, , but respect on the other top games racing destruction set and Stunt car racer.......just my opinion but RDS for me certainly deserves some kind of remaster or sequel because there is nothing like that now.......somebodies definately missed a trick here.....thx 4 the memories anyway despite placing revs so low......btw both revs and stunt car racer ..were created by the same programmer, the ledge Geoff Crammond
This might be one of the only genres where I don't have a favourite on the C64! The C64 was good at a lot of stuff but racing games just wasn't one of them..
It might have been Kikstart 2 though.. and that's not even on the list.. and might not even qualify as a racing game.
It was in the shortlist but then I thought it's more of a skill game
Speed King!
Turbo charge reminds me of the driving sections from Vendetta. That's a game I'd like to play again, can anyone point me in the direction of a good emulator/roms?
Send me an email and I'll sort you out Pagman35@gmail.com
It wouldn't surprise me if Vendetta influenced Turbo Charge, but the former was by Stanley Schembri, whereas the latter was a Chris Butler joint, and he also wrote the excellent Power Drift.
Buggy boy should be no1 trailblazzer should be here and speed king
Trailblazer ... I'm not sure it fits this catergory..it's racing yeah but this is more vehicles
Try Speed King