Small comment on your vrs suggestion. The sw20 and the vrs are not in same price range because with the vrs you have to buy the bracket etc and ends up on around 100-200 euro more than the sw20 package to get the same content. But good review.
Well the Vrs one costs 1k€ with both the wheelbase mount and shaft clamp. pretty much the same as the simplicity without the discount if you order it from stock. Prices for Uk though. don´t know otherwise
Hi Laurence. Surprised you didn't know much about these guys. They have been around for years. I've used them tons and service has been spot on. Of course with every bad instance of customer service there's likely thousands of happy customers. Buy your review of the product itself is spot on. Blind test vs simucube 2 and you wouldn't know the difference.
This is exactly why I love your reviews! Straight up, nothing between the lines! LOVE IT! You leave us with the most important task and that is to make the final decision. Which is so much easier to do when you have unbias and true information and impressions. Thanks LD!
Thanks so much Chris. Yeah I don’t want to put words in people’s mouths but do have a duty to tell people about my experience. Writing the script for these reviews takes quite some time
Simplicity was, and I think still is, the simplest way to diy a osw setup. 5 or so years ago, you either had to buy a leo bodnar wheelbase or diy your direct drive wheel. There was a long list of component to source out and compatibility to be aware of. Simplicity just source and bundle the component for you, it was a great service at a competitive price. It's hard to recommend now days since the DD wheel market is much wider now.
Agree till this day I still want one. Although I have a simagic mimi, I love the old school 30nm osw. I went to the website and it's still active. Call me crazy but I still want one of this. My only Concern is the update on the software.
Been waiting for this review for a while! I have never tried another DD myself, I bought the SW20 and was looking for someone to confirm the ffb compared to other high end bases out there. Completely agreed on the customer service and the recommendation to go VRS instead. I regularly suggest the same to those who ask me.
Yeah it’s a shame in ways. The bundle is good and it all works well too. I would love to see a small company like this thrive, but simply can’t recommend the product without a. If disclaimer :(
I've had the SW20 V3 for a year now and it's been great once you get the setting to your liking....one issue I did have was the controller box would drop out mid race so not ideal! I upgraded the USB 2.0 cable and it's been perfect ever since
the little rod included in the kit is needed for certain types of quick release, for example the Simracing coach one, or in general all qr in the style of "bike clamp"
Great review!! I've had this base for around 4 months now and I absolutely love it !! Took me a while to get it to my liking but I'm sure that's the same for every new wheel but now it feels amazing. My base and control box did arrive 2 days which was a little frustrating. I did send them a email and got a reply literally within the hour, so like you say they may blow hot and cold on that front. But all in all I'm very happy with my purchase. Thanks again Stu
Have been using the SW20 (V2) happily since 2017.. when i bought it, i got one hour of tutorial by Ollie, and i actually didn't tighten the bolts enough either. Since then, 3 of my friends have tried, 2 of them have bought the second they got home.... it is just thát good. And yeah, i'm not a hardware expert, and even i got it sorted in the end. I'm using a Wooden Nardi 350mm 4-spoke round racing wheel on my DD wheelbase, bought an adapter from the hardware store to fit it. Also bought a button box for it, but i'm not too happy with the cabling for that. I love how the steeringwheel(base) can let you turn 2160 degrees maximum, too much fun when driving truck sims, but, the cable for the button box wont like it. I just wish someone would make bluetooth or wifi button/flappypaddle boxes with just an on off switch and aa-battery that has to be replaced once a year. Oh well, evolution evolves. Wish i could still get the V3 encoder somewhere....they were sold out quite rapidly.
Good to hear your point of view (I've been watching simplicity for a while). I guess for those in the UK, these make a bit more financial sense (£737 within 28 days vs £990 for the DFP). It does seem like it's something that's done on the side which could somewhat explain the slightly dodgy customer service
I've already ordered one before watching this video and thought through my research this was by far the best option for price against the others when comparing the extras like the bracket and shaft adaptor. also the VRS was going to cost me an extra £170 in import taxes on top, (being located in the uk). Regarding communication I've had no problems, obviously its a small company and my emails where responded to at a normal time as other company's would.
Great to have some positive feedback on the comments too. I’m sure there are plenty others like you. It’s just a shame there are many who didn’t have as good an experience
I own my s20 v3 for abouth 1.5 years now. Had no problems. When i send an email with question, they seem to reply pretty quick. In abouth 24h. Dont know much abouth them, but it seems they are stil developing, new firmware and software seems available. I still love my sw20. But i am allready looking around for an Simagic Alpha U with fx wheel. For the looks, less cables, and wireless wheel. Keep up the great reviews Laurence!
Deffo room fer improvement... Personally i wouldnt touch a company that operates in such a way with a 10ft pole. Excellent work as always. Big Ups to Mr. Keno, u LegendFace!
Yep melee I took one for the team but ultimately also ended up with a cracking direct drive wheel for very little money. Thanks for taking the time to comment!
I have their older SW20 with Simucube boards. I don't have any issues so far. I love and support small sim racing company. We are now at a time where sim racing might be at its peak but we won't be here without these small companies.
I've had my SW20 V3 for going on 2 years now, and it's been great. I recently replaced the USB cable with a higher quality one due to the controller box disconnects and haven't had any issues since. I purchased mine in 2019; my experience with customer service was great whenever I dealt with them, and both boxes arrived the same day. I wonder if many of these issues are due to the world being shut down and the sim racing explosion - scaling their business model to a shortage of parts and an abnormal increase in orders would be hard. That said, some social media presence or something would give more confidence in their company's survival. I do worry that if something goes wrong, now I may not get the support I need, even though my experience so far has shown otherwise. Also, I LOVE driving with this wheel. Great review.
Thanks for your excellent comment. I’d be more than happy if it was my forever wheel, but yeah a bit of company presence would make owners a little more loyal, proud and likely to recommend.
@@biccligher I did have that problem a few months ago. I upgraded to a "Tripp Lite USB 2.0 Hi-Speed A/B Cable with Ferrite Chokes" (that's the name if you want to search for it) and it hasn't been an issue since.
I was keen on VRS & looked at SW20 for cheapest new price point - biggest concern was the software/firmware support as especially for Mige based systems the software is arguably more important than the hardware. I ended up with 2nd hand Simucube1 20Nm Mige based system, the firmware was updated up until Nov '20 and has a lot of SC2 features like static force reduction filter. The Simucube Granity software provides for detail technical tuning of the the controller/motor - you don't have to use it, but it allows one to tune out the motor cogging typical of Mige motor and from what I read a well set-up SC1 system is pretty hard to distinguish from a new Simucube Pro.
I have owned this base for like 6-7 months now. Wheel base is excellent and it feels great once its setup. The comments on the software and customer service are the main issues.
I bought one about a year ago and it was faulty, no one from simplicity ever replied! luckily I'd bought it from Tegiwa imports and they were slightly more helpful (I don't think they believed me) I ended up having to pay for it to be returned fully insured. I did get a reluctant refund as it was faulty. I bought a VRS and it's never missed a beat. If Simplicity had decent customer service I'd likely still have it.
Thanks for the review, that helped me to choose their SW20 Esport, which has incremental encoder, instead the absolute one used in V3. Didn't regret my purchase. All my e-mails were answered and the order was shipped in 3 days as promised.The FFB is great.
@@collinskipruto6946 The resolution of the absolute encoder is greater than the incremental one. Also the absolute encoder always knows the exact position of the steering wheel, the incremental one might lose this info in case it loses power (very unlikely). In practice there should be almost no difference. My incremental encoder always knows wheel's position on startup. As for resolution/precision I can't really comment, but my SW20E is already very precise.
thanks for the comment. I was reluctant about how this information would be received by the community but there's a resounding echo of my sentiments, which is good to hear. I just hope that they fix their business model because they wont survive as it stands.
Glad I went with the Simagic M10 for now. I had been looking at the Simplicity bases off and on for about a year, the main thing that turned me off (which may seem petty) was the website.
The M10 offers a massive bundle for the money. I really miss the GT1 rim now and am struggling to find something similar that's affordable for my simucube
I had a look at their products when I got my dd, I wasn’t really impressed with the software, didn’t even realize they were in the UK 🤣 customs price would have killed it for me. And customer service who doesn’t answer? Better to pass 🤣
price: good. Service: worst in the world (truth, not an opinion). What you say in 2:30 is 100% true. I have one and I simply NEED the new firmware (I mostly play GT Legends and default firmware doesnt work) but they dont answer to any email.
After creating a forum for developer easy contact they have improve a LOT the service... BUT they dont support old games as they say in their website. If it works it works, if doesnt...doesnt. At least at the moment (sept 2022). Considering brands like Moza, Simagic, ... they should improve a pair of things or they will gonna have a surprise on not having new customers. Now they dont develop because they have work, but developing is basic for the future. They will suddenly find themselves with few new customers. And they will wonder why... (Literally they have lost 3 customers that wanted to buy the wheel I have and I didnt recomend it)
@@THESHADOW97139 They answered emails but they just say that there are old sims so they won't support that (meanwhile they sell them like compatible with old sims). Still zero solution.
Great review and very generous with your comments considering the non existance of a manufacturer. So it’s a cheaper VRS for those who prefer hassle and stress over money. Why go to the effort of producing this to then not support or promote it.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Agree but even this is not a cheap item at €800 so we really need to be looking at value, which is a personal choice. I very nearly went VRS as £280 cheaper then SC2 Pro but figure in the SC2 comes with QR, kill switch and wireless, plus brand name so future re-sale value? I saw the VALUE with Simucube. This is personal choice and opinion. This was made much easier by quality reviews from TH-cam producers such as yourself so up 👍🏻
problem is, nobody sells it anymore, anywhere. granite still sells the ioni and simucube board, that's it. simracingbay, augury and simtech all stopped selling sc1 systems, which is a shame if you ask me. only route to drive a sc1 in 2021 is to buy motor, boards, cables, build your own enclosure and set all bootloaders + drc files + firmware + granite values literally by yourself. it's like with the launch of simucube2 the whole osw world made a step back in 2016, when it first came out. and by the way, I own a sc2 sport since when it first launched in 2019, I made the swap from an osw sc1, and I can tell you without a doubt I would gladly swap it back with an osw if only I could still find a pre-built like it used to sell untill 2019. I really don't like the road sc2 took with paddock and whatnot, and the backlash it had from the whole sc2 community in their forum speaks volume about that.
Product is quite good I think, only gripe I have is the fact that communicating with this company after the sell seems impossible (they just don't respond). Valid questions, like: any updates to the already at least one year old firmware that I'm using?
Yep that’s exactly what I’m referring to here. It’s such a shame. If it’s worth selling small amounts of these, surely it’s worth their while putting in some effort and selling lots of them. Thanks for the comment!
@@LaurenceDusoswa it's the only DD drive wheel I've used, but after having a Fanatec clubsport it was a major step up. I've never had the wheel start rotating by itself in the couple of years I've had it.
I've had my SW20 V3 for about 10 months and it's amazing. The people that run the company are truly hopeless. Honestly don't understand how they can be so stupid.
I saw this while researching motors. I mean i think i rather have vrs instead of this. Yeah you have to pay extra for the hub, mounting bracket and emergency stop but all in all i think vrs is worth buying than this.
@@LaurenceDusoswa but seriously I have had the DFP for almost a year now and love it. VRS nailed the marketing, functionality and consumer info...plus the components look pretty nice IRL. This thing just looks cheap and nasty because they haven’t put any effort into it. Sad because it probably does the job quite well.
Yeah I definitely agree. Being treated well is difficult to put a value on. This company is so close in ways. Other companies often market well and have a shitty product. It seems the opposite here 😂🤣😂
In terms of raw performance, it seems like a great wheelbase, everything else though seems rather bad - very clunky looks, a lot of cables, a lot of total space taken up, awful customer service. Really hard choice to consider when others do a much better job in general.
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Small comment on your vrs suggestion. The sw20 and the vrs are not in same price range because with the vrs you have to buy the bracket etc and ends up on around 100-200 euro more than the sw20 package to get the same content.
But good review.
Yes, agreed! I forgot to mention that. Thanks for your comment!
Well the Vrs one costs 1k€ with both the wheelbase mount and shaft clamp. pretty much the same as the simplicity without the discount if you order it from stock. Prices for Uk though. don´t know otherwise
That's was the word "range" in price range means.
Hi Laurence. Surprised you didn't know much about these guys. They have been around for years. I've used them tons and service has been spot on. Of course with every bad instance of customer service there's likely thousands of happy customers. Buy your review of the product itself is spot on. Blind test vs simucube 2 and you wouldn't know the difference.
Yeah I’m in an owner group on Facebook and many people had communication issues unfortunately. But yeah, probably plenty of super happy people too. :)
This is exactly why I love your reviews! Straight up, nothing between the lines! LOVE IT! You leave us with the most important task and that is to make the final decision. Which is so much easier to do when you have unbias and true information and impressions. Thanks LD!
Thanks so much Chris. Yeah I don’t want to put words in people’s mouths but do have a duty to tell people about my experience. Writing the script for these reviews takes quite some time
Simplicity was, and I think still is, the simplest way to diy a osw setup. 5 or so years ago, you either had to buy a leo bodnar wheelbase or diy your direct drive wheel. There was a long list of component to source out and compatibility to be aware of. Simplicity just source and bundle the component for you, it was a great service at a competitive price. It's hard to recommend now days since the DD wheel market is much wider now.
Agree till this day I still want one. Although I have a simagic mimi, I love the old school 30nm osw. I went to the website and it's still active. Call me crazy but I still want one of this. My only Concern is the update on the software.
Yeah it's a different world now
I didn't know that simplicity where still in the market, last time I saw a sw review was from GM, great analysis on the sw
Yeah his review was years ago I think! Before my channel even existed
Been waiting for this review for a while! I have never tried another DD myself, I bought the SW20 and was looking for someone to confirm the ffb compared to other high end bases out there. Completely agreed on the customer service and the recommendation to go VRS instead. I regularly suggest the same to those who ask me.
Yeah it’s a shame in ways. The bundle is good and it all works well too. I would love to see a small company like this thrive, but simply can’t recommend the product without a. If disclaimer :(
I've had the SW20 V3 for a year now and it's been great once you get the setting to your liking....one issue I did have was the controller box would drop out mid race so not ideal! I upgraded the USB 2.0 cable and it's been perfect ever since
Yeah I didn’t dwell on the settings too much in this review. It was relatively easy to find good settings I found. I didn’t have any USB issues
the little rod included in the kit is needed for certain types of quick release, for example the Simracing coach one, or in general all qr in the style of "bike clamp"
Good to know! In the owner group when I asked, nobody knew
Great review!! I've had this base for around 4 months now and I absolutely love it !! Took me a while to get it to my liking but I'm sure that's the same for every new wheel but now it feels amazing. My base and control box did arrive 2 days which was a little frustrating. I did send them a email and got a reply literally within the hour, so like you say they may blow hot and cold on that front. But all in all I'm very happy with my purchase. Thanks again Stu
thanks for the great comment. It's a great product for sure :) Glad you're enjoying it!
fantastic insight into the SW20. great review. keep up the great work LD
Thanks brother!
I've had the Sim-plicity 10C for +2 years now. It works great and I've been happy with it since day 1.
Great :) yeah once it’s installed on your rig, it works great and is very easy to live with
Have been using the SW20 (V2) happily since 2017.. when i bought it, i got one hour of tutorial by Ollie, and i actually didn't tighten the bolts enough either.
Since then, 3 of my friends have tried, 2 of them have bought the second they got home.... it is just thát good. And yeah, i'm not a hardware expert, and even i got it sorted in the end. I'm using a Wooden Nardi 350mm 4-spoke round racing wheel on my DD wheelbase, bought an adapter from the hardware store to fit it. Also bought a button box for it, but i'm not too happy with the cabling for that. I love how the steeringwheel(base) can let you turn 2160 degrees maximum, too much fun when driving truck sims, but, the cable for the button box wont like it. I just wish someone would make bluetooth or wifi button/flappypaddle boxes with just an on off switch and aa-battery that has to be replaced once a year. Oh well, evolution evolves. Wish i could still get the V3 encoder somewhere....they were sold out quite rapidly.
Nice! Great comment
Good review LD. Keep up the good work
Thanks Stefan!
Good to hear your point of view (I've been watching simplicity for a while). I guess for those in the UK, these make a bit more financial sense (£737 within 28 days vs £990 for the DFP). It does seem like it's something that's done on the side which could somewhat explain the slightly dodgy customer service
Yep within the UK especially, it’s a cheap bit of kit!
I can't wait for your Simagic Pedals review
I've already ordered one before watching this video and thought through my research this was by far the best option for price against the others when comparing the extras like the bracket and shaft adaptor. also the VRS was going to cost me an extra £170 in import taxes on top, (being located in the uk). Regarding communication I've had no problems, obviously its a small company and my emails where responded to at a normal time as other company's would.
Great to have some positive feedback on the comments too. I’m sure there are plenty others like you. It’s just a shame there are many who didn’t have as good an experience
I own my s20 v3 for abouth 1.5 years now. Had no problems. When i send an email with question, they seem to reply pretty quick. In abouth 24h. Dont know much abouth them, but it seems they are stil developing, new firmware and software seems available. I still love my sw20. But i am allready looking around for an Simagic Alpha U with fx wheel. For the looks, less cables, and wireless wheel. Keep up the great reviews Laurence!
Nice one :) yeah I have heard good experiences from them too
Deffo room fer improvement... Personally i wouldnt touch a company that operates in such a way with a 10ft pole. Excellent work as always. Big Ups to Mr. Keno, u LegendFace!
Yep melee I took one for the team but ultimately also ended up with a cracking direct drive wheel for very little money. Thanks for taking the time to comment!
I have their older SW20 with Simucube boards. I don't have any issues so far. I love and support small sim racing company. We are now at a time where sim racing might be at its peak but we won't be here without these small companies.
I've had my SW20 V3 for going on 2 years now, and it's been great. I recently replaced the USB cable with a higher quality one due to the controller box disconnects and haven't had any issues since. I purchased mine in 2019; my experience with customer service was great whenever I dealt with them, and both boxes arrived the same day. I wonder if many of these issues are due to the world being shut down and the sim racing explosion - scaling their business model to a shortage of parts and an abnormal increase in orders would be hard. That said, some social media presence or something would give more confidence in their company's survival. I do worry that if something goes wrong, now I may not get the support I need, even though my experience so far has shown otherwise. Also, I LOVE driving with this wheel. Great review.
Thanks for your excellent comment. I’d be more than happy if it was my forever wheel, but yeah a bit of company presence would make owners a little more loyal, proud and likely to recommend.
Hey with the controller box disconnecting would it cut the force feedback out of random for you
@@biccligher I did have that problem a few months ago. I upgraded to a "Tripp Lite USB 2.0 Hi-Speed A/B Cable with Ferrite Chokes" (that's the name if you want to search for it) and it hasn't been an issue since.
I was keen on VRS & looked at SW20 for cheapest new price point - biggest concern was the software/firmware support as especially for Mige based systems the software is arguably more important than the hardware. I ended up with 2nd hand Simucube1 20Nm Mige based system, the firmware was updated up until Nov '20 and has a lot of SC2 features like static force reduction filter. The Simucube Granity software provides for detail technical tuning of the the controller/motor - you don't have to use it, but it allows one to tune out the motor cogging typical of Mige motor and from what I read a well set-up SC1 system is pretty hard to distinguish from a new Simucube Pro.
Thanks for the detailed comment
I have owned this base for like 6-7 months now. Wheel base is excellent and it feels great once its setup. The comments on the software and customer service are the main issues.
Yep exactly. Such a pity
I bought one about a year ago and it was faulty, no one from simplicity ever replied! luckily I'd bought it from Tegiwa imports and they were slightly more helpful (I don't think they believed me) I ended up having to pay for it to be returned fully insured. I did get a reluctant refund as it was faulty. I bought a VRS and it's never missed a beat. If Simplicity had decent customer service I'd likely still have it.
Thanks for the insight :( sorry to hear about your experience. That’s lousy. Glad you’re loving the VRS!
Thanks for the review, that helped me to choose their SW20 Esport, which has incremental encoder, instead the absolute one used in V3. Didn't regret my purchase. All my e-mails were answered and the order was shipped in 3 days as promised.The FFB is great.
That's awesome news
What's the difference between the two?
@@collinskipruto6946 The resolution of the absolute encoder is greater than the incremental one. Also the absolute encoder always knows the exact position of the steering wheel, the incremental one might lose this info in case it loses power (very unlikely). In practice there should be almost no difference. My incremental encoder always knows wheel's position on startup. As for resolution/precision I can't really comment, but my SW20E is already very precise.
@@StepUnique thank you
I'm considering purchasing that SW20E unit.
Is it buttery smooth, no cogging/rippling?
Thank you very much! This will help me in my research into buying a DD base!
You’re very welcome mr Cuyar :)
Thanks you so much I was looking for a review of this for so long now !
You’re very welcome! Sorry it took so long! All the footage was taken around christmas but my work and normal life took priority
I was on that live stream with the turning problems. That was some funny shit
Hahaha that really sucked at the time 😂😂😂
Great review and absolutely bang on with your comments. Got my sw20v3 last year for a prom price of £650. Fantastic base but the company is a mess.
thanks for the comment. I was reluctant about how this information would be received by the community but there's a resounding echo of my sentiments, which is good to hear. I just hope that they fix their business model because they wont survive as it stands.
Glad I went with the Simagic M10 for now. I had been looking at the Simplicity bases off and on for about a year, the main thing that turned me off (which may seem petty) was the website.
The M10 offers a massive bundle for the money. I really miss the GT1 rim now and am struggling to find something similar that's affordable for my simucube
I had a look at their products when I got my dd, I wasn’t really impressed with the software, didn’t even realize they were in the UK 🤣 customs price would have killed it for me. And customer service who doesn’t answer? Better to pass 🤣
Yeah it all seems to be a bit hit and miss but the product itself is very good.
price: good. Service: worst in the world (truth, not an opinion). What you say in 2:30 is 100% true.
I have one and I simply NEED the new firmware (I mostly play GT Legends and default firmware doesnt work) but they dont answer to any email.
Ah that's horrible :(
After creating a forum for developer easy contact they have improve a LOT the service... BUT they dont support old games as they say in their website. If it works it works, if doesnt...doesnt. At least at the moment (sept 2022).
Considering brands like Moza, Simagic, ... they should improve a pair of things or they will gonna have a surprise on not having new customers. Now they dont develop because they have work, but developing is basic for the future.
They will suddenly find themselves with few new customers. And they will wonder why...
(Literally they have lost 3 customers that wanted to buy the wheel I have and I didnt recomend it)
@@BallestaRacing Hello
Is the situation still the same??
These are the old games that don't work on these bases??
No problems with current games??
@@THESHADOW97139 They answered emails but they just say that there are old sims so they won't support that (meanwhile they sell them like compatible with old sims). Still zero solution.
Nice review style.
Thanks man! I enjoy doing these reviews but they take a while 😅😅😅
Great review and very generous with your comments considering the non existance of a manufacturer. So it’s a cheaper VRS for those who prefer hassle and stress over money. Why go to the effort of producing this to then not support or promote it.
Yep, I completely agree. You get a lot for your money but it comes at a price
@@LaurenceDusoswa Agree but even this is not a cheap item at €800 so we really need to be looking at value, which is a personal choice. I very nearly went VRS as £280 cheaper then SC2 Pro but figure in the SC2 comes with QR, kill switch and wireless, plus brand name so future re-sale value? I saw the VALUE with Simucube. This is personal choice and opinion.
This was made much easier by quality reviews from TH-cam producers such as yourself so up 👍🏻
Do you know if you can buy just the control unit
I don't. I never dealt with the company directly
That is why you should get the Simucube 1 OSW Mige 20Nm setup. Runs off Simucube software and it’s easy to setup unlike this one you have reviewed.
Is it really easier to set up? What’s the price of it?
problem is, nobody sells it anymore, anywhere. granite still sells the ioni and simucube board, that's it. simracingbay, augury and simtech all stopped selling sc1 systems, which is a shame if you ask me. only route to drive a sc1 in 2021 is to buy motor, boards, cables, build your own enclosure and set all bootloaders + drc files + firmware + granite values literally by yourself. it's like with the launch of simucube2 the whole osw world made a step back in 2016, when it first came out. and by the way, I own a sc2 sport since when it first launched in 2019, I made the swap from an osw sc1, and I can tell you without a doubt I would gladly swap it back with an osw if only I could still find a pre-built like it used to sell untill 2019. I really don't like the road sc2 took with paddock and whatnot, and the backlash it had from the whole sc2 community in their forum speaks volume about that.
Product is quite good I think, only gripe I have is the fact that communicating with this company after the sell seems impossible (they just don't respond). Valid questions, like: any updates to the already at least one year old firmware that I'm using?
Yep that’s exactly what I’m referring to here. It’s such a shame. If it’s worth selling small amounts of these, surely it’s worth their while putting in some effort and selling lots of them. Thanks for the comment!
I have one, love it.
Nice! Yeah it’s not much different to the VRS as far as i know
@@LaurenceDusoswa it's the only DD drive wheel I've used, but after having a Fanatec clubsport it was a major step up. I've never had the wheel start rotating by itself in the couple of years I've had it.
That looked like a key way for the shaft, but probably have to get it cut yourself. It probably actually comes with motor so they just throw it in.
Yep it’s a key for the shaft. Not necessary for sim racing.
I've had my SW20 V3 for about 10 months and it's amazing.
The people that run the company are truly hopeless. Honestly don't understand how they can be so stupid.
It's a shocker. You'd almost wonder why they bothered in the first place
Thank you brother
You’re very welcome! Sorry about the delay in getting this review out :)
Do you still recommend this kit today?
Yes. Everything outlined in this video still holds true. Great ffb.
@@LaurenceDusoswa Ty mate !
I saw this while researching motors. I mean i think i rather have vrs instead of this. Yeah you have to pay extra for the hub, mounting bracket and emergency stop but all in all i think vrs is worth buying than this.
Yeah it’s a tough call. I would go with the VRS too I think
I just came here for the music 🤣
Hahaha I hope the music was good for you 😅 it seemed to suit the review I thought
@@LaurenceDusoswa but seriously I have had the DFP for almost a year now and love it. VRS nailed the marketing, functionality and consumer info...plus the components look pretty nice IRL. This thing just looks cheap and nasty because they haven’t put any effort into it. Sad because it probably does the job quite well.
Value of money is only value if the customer service is good
Yeah I definitely agree. Being treated well is difficult to put a value on. This company is so close in ways. Other companies often market well and have a shitty product. It seems the opposite here 😂🤣😂
In terms of raw performance, it seems like a great wheelbase, everything else though seems rather bad - very clunky looks, a lot of cables, a lot of total space taken up, awful customer service. Really hard choice to consider when others do a much better job in general.
Yep it really is for the budget conscious person. I would love to see them succeed :(
Interesting - I'd rather pay a few hundred extra for a more established company just in case something goes wrong.
Yeah that’s how I feel too
its not the best way to save a €150
Yeah I know what you mean.
Sounds great until you realise the owners are pillocks😂
Is that from experience?
@@LaurenceDusoswa nope, they just seem like they don’t care about their company or customers
@@marcusss.carsss5096 seems to be a common occurrence but many customers also experienced really good service, from Emmy communications with owners